Faust


 

Deti stated,

Women really need to stop having so much premarital sex. This isn’t a Puritanical, Christian tradcon argument. They really need to stop doing it because it screws them up so much. It prevents them from being able to gin up sexual attraction for men they can actually get a commitment from.

Women really need to stop settling for and marrying men they aren’t sexually attracted to. Women need to reserve marriage for men they want to fuck so badly that they can’t stand it. The only marriages that really work now are those in which she is strongly sexually attracted to him. There are two manosphere examples of this, and we both know who they are. Those are the only marriages that work now.

Where does a woman want to place her bet, now or later?  Or perhaps more importantly, does she even know that there is a choice?  Probably in most cases, she does not.

Most young women grow up being told that they are awesome; the way that they can readily attract men just confirms and intensifies this. Furthermore, they are told that they can and should have it all.  So even it was suggested to women that there is a choice to be made between now and later, she would not believe you.

But a choice it is, even if they do not realize it.  Let us consider the options.  Riding the carousel is seemingly fun, with lots of attention and validation.  There is a price to be paid.  Her ability to pair bond decreases with every partner, with every sexual act. The ultimate manifestation of this is the so called alpha-widow; where a man who tickles her tinglator is never forgotten, always to be pined for.

How does this all play out?  She marries a fella, has kids, hates her husband and her situation (and pines for her glory days). There is misery all around.  Her, him, and the children all suffer.  Not only does she pay the price for her Faustian bargain, but also her husband (probably she doesn’t really care) and her children (hopefully she does care).  Furthermore the sins of the mothers are passed onto the children, maybe from generation to generation.  A true tragedy this is.

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114 comments on “Faust
  1. Moi says:

    No. She actually divorced the husband, takes up with a loser who abuses her, and then gets sent to jail. She then tries to swing to another branch, but the only one in reach is her ex. Whose life she continues to degrade. Collateral damage is done to any/all children, and she’s too clueless to see it.

    Hypothetically, of course…

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  2. Ame says:

    “Furthermore the sins of the mothers are passed onto the children, maybe from generation to generation. A true tragedy this is.”

    – – – – – – –

    until someone stops it.

    i’ve stopped it. my girls have no clue what i went through with my mother … or my mother with her mother. because i refused to carry on the pattern. it has ended in my line.

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  3. mgtowhorseman says:

    Women cannot seperate sex from emotion as much as they want to say it. Ever guy they bang they are thinking like the player in He’s Not That Into You. After mindblowing sex in the morning they will wake up and realize be must have you forever but magically keep his edge blah blah. Its what goes thru their head.
    The Walk of Shame is just that. Shame that they couldn’t stay forever.
    The guy’s version is the Walk of I Just Got Laid.

    So women cannot divorce sex from emotion.
    So they inherently, every single time, assume/think/dream the guy they get to sleep with them is the guy who, next time, will marry/ltr/date whatever.

    So Deti is right.
    The FIRST time she bats out of her league, on vacation, a fluke, even just a horny alpha. That ONE NIGHT resets her bar to that level. For Eternity.
    So a 5 destined to marry a 5 gets banged in the closet af her sisters wedding by a drunk 7. Forever more she will shoot for 7s and 6s be damned. Ironic as a 6 may bang her but not marry her. And her destiny the 5. Bubye.

    So she seeks 7 but cant pull them. So she gets sluttier, dresses worse, gets tats. Yup now 7s bang her…cause she is signalling easy pickins. And so her bar gets entrenched at 7.

    Then as the whore of the day a 7 tells an 8 and yup. One night with 8 and….higher reset. 8s only. 7s on a bad day.

    So she holds out. dreaming. hoping. next guy will really love her as a 5 cause she wants it.

    she gets them in bed so it means they like her right. Just need to morph like into love.

    Um. yeah. No.
    You have two ratings SMV and MMV.
    Its like your hair and eye colour. Some are blue eyed blonds…7 smv and 7 mmv.
    Many are dyed blonds but the hazel eyes give it away.
    7 smv and 5 mmv.
    Worse the dyed blond, bushy black eyebrows and brown eyes
    6 smv slutting up to 7 with an mmv of…2?

    They dont mean for it to happen. It jjst does.
    They cannot step back and self assess.

    Why PUA, mgtow and just guys hitting in their league?
    Cause each not only knows their own values smv and mmv but both value of every girl they meet. and also the maintenance cost of said girl and her plot on the Stinson Sexy Crazy Line. and both tonights cost as well as the cost a decade out if she will be faithful or not.

    and they act accordingly.

    Before the society controls forced women to link their smv and mmv. Sidney Poitier (as Sir) said in the 60s
    No one likes a slut…for long.
    Then they listened.

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  4. mgtowhorseman says:

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    There are two manosphere examples of this, and we both know who they are.

    I am thinking three — Sunshine, Liz and Elspeth

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  6. Tarnished says:

    Riding the carousel is seemingly fun, with lots of attention and validation.

    A 2013 study found that women who hookup only orgasm 40% of the time, compared to 75% of the time for those who engage in the same sexual activities in an LTR. For men, those numbers were 80% and 94%, respectively.

    In another study, 52% of upperclassmen females who consistently had hookups either were unsatisfied by the encounter or felt poorly about it later. 24% were ambivalent, and the remaining percentage were satisfied sexually and felt good about the sex afterwards.

    So, where is the fun for most women? It seems only a small amount actually enjoy “fucking like a man”.

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  7. Yoda says:

    If fun it is not,
    then why do what they do?

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  8. Yoda says:

    Perhaps post topic for Tarn this is

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  9. Yoda says:

    Maybe sex not so enjoyable it is,
    but validation awesome it would be

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    For some reason I don’t see this happen to the rural church’s around me
    Why? Rednecks take our guns to church

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/muslims-threaten-california-church-allahu-akbars-sunday-mass/

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  11. BuenaVista says:

    Polling women about sex offers zero insight. Generalizing from such a poll is to layer a fabrication atop a lie, anchored by an emotion.

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  12. Ame says:

    i took my daughter into the chiropractor this week. our chiro office has four male, married, chiropractors … all 30’s to early 40’s … all obviously work out regularly, and all excellent at what they do. i was talking to one of the young techs (early 20’s), and she commented about how cute i looked – skirt, jewelry, etc. i told her it wasn’t my appt so i wasn’t wearing my ‘chiro-appt-clothes’ – basically yoga pants and long t-shirt.

    she then went on to tell me how shocked she is at the number of women my age who come in for adjustments wearing dresses and skirts. she said that the younger girls her age who come in wearing dresses and skirts at least have the decency to wear a pair of shorts underneath, but not the women my age.

    ugh.

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  13. Yoda says:

    Tarn rubbing off on you she is

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  14. Moi says:

    I like this one better. Much more descriptive

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    50 year time travel shocker

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  16. mgtowhorseman says:

    BuenaVista says:
    21 October, 2015 at 2:02 am
    Cautionary word: if your wife knows she’ll never do better, she’ll pull every lever to make sure no other woman enjoys your female loving self. Then it gets interesting.

    Other than that re-read Ton.”

    Sweet true words.

    After 25 years of marriage and the kids leaving for school we hit a rut. She did the Im not happy. I replied “Im not happy without sex, so get out.”

    She left for 4 months and had to come back several times for paperwork to sell the farm. After a few times she started making passes and excuses to move back.

    I let her move back. We had massive angry sex. I was hugely pissed and confrontational. She saw the nurses at work ramping up to catch me. Hmm. In shape 50s, secure govt job pulling 6 figures in this town. She did the math.

    To this day she tells her friends that all the sex, often 3 times a day was caused by menopause. Bullshit. Fear.

    When we go out with her friends, all single moms, I always sit down away from her, close to any of them and start sending blatant IOIs as I chat. ZIP she is there, sitting on my lap asking if I need anything.

    Thank god she works in retail, the home of the poor single mom. If she is starting to slack all I have to do is stop by her work in my suit and chat up her coworkers. “Oh Mrs H, He Cleans Up Good…Mmmm” Steak and sex night.

    And do I feel guilty or manipulative. Not a bit.
    Strictly showing like it is.
    30+ years of history cannot be duplicated and is comfort.
    But its not irreplaceable. And I have a list of 30 year olds I could pull in a day if I could be bothered (NO)
    Most of all she knows I am MGTOW and she is along for the ride, not steering in any way.

    Deti, BV, Ton are right. It is too easy once you ZFG for real.
    But the question for all of you. Seriously.
    Why even bother.

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    Curses time travel joke already old.

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  18. Yoda says:

    Not happy he is

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  19. Guests says:

    Noah’s behaviour reminds me so much of my son at that age!

    (Biff)

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  20. Ezzy says:

    “Biff”,

    I was wondering if I should make the same observation. Hilarious!

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  21. mgtowhorseman says:

    Why do you do what you do? Seems like a simple question doesn’t it.

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  22. Laurel says:

    Somebody was saying the other day that if a man is going to fall in love, 70% of the falling in love happens before he sleeps with the girl. But if a woman is going to fall in love, 70% of the falling in love happens AFTER first-time sex.

    True general rule, or not?

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  23. Ezzy says:

    Excuse us for butting in like that. Biff’s son (my nephew) is now a big fellow and well known to Spawny and friends.

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  24. Spawny Get says:

    No problem at all, took me by surprise though
    Hope Cill thawed his livestock out after the freeze

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  25. Sumo says:

    Cill and wee Molls’ mothers are here? Does this mean I have to start behaving myself now?

    I’m not going to, I’d just like to know if I’m supposed to. Curiousity and all that.

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  26. molly says:

    Hi Laurel!

    I fell in love before sex

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  27. molly says:

    Yell-o Aunt and Mum!

    Sumo is bad 👿 LOL (laugh out loud)

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  28. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, Noah’s head is ready to contribute its first dent to me Kauri Club, and thus add to the accumulated wisdom of the Moehau Man.

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  29. molly says:

    Sumo relax, they must be gone. Mum and Aunt “B” are busy cooking breakfast.

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  30. Yoda says:

    Excuse us for butting in like that. Biff’s son (my nephew) is now a big fellow and well known to Spawny and friends.

    For sure me it is not.
    Perhaps Moe it would be.

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  31. molly says:

    Be bad as u want!

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Full English please, beans not fried toms. Fried bread, not toast. Coffee, white no sugar (I’m sweet enough as I am).

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  33. Yoda says:

    Crumpets like I do

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    Nowt wrong with a bit of crumpet.

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  35. molly says:

    “Full English” is with English Breakfast Tea, UncaS (tsk tsk)

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  36. Laurel says:

    Hi, Molly!

    “I fell in love before sex”…so did I. Thinking back, though, my feelings did get more intense after we had sex.

    Lasted 2 years, I was very happy and thought it was going to be permanent. Was not to be, though.

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  37. Moehau Man says:

    I like Boar brain minced with Squid. And Mountain Oysters for afters.

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  38. Laurel says:

    Also, I’ve known quite a few girls who were in “casual relationships”, they were all, “nothing serious, just for fun.” But then when it ended, they were pretty bitter about it. Why would they get bitter if it wasn’t important to them?

    I do think there’s probably something to this “sex creates bonding for women” thing, though not sure about the hormones explanation. It’s hard to believe it (sex) doesn’t have at least SOME bonding power for men too. Or is that just wishful thinking?

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  39. molly says:

    Laurel “nothing serious, just for fun” is not me. I see some girls drunk and shallow. I had my career early and will marry and have children while young. I asked my Dad and Mum to help me plan when I was young.

    “SOME bonding power for men too”. Good question. A man answer I hope? Down Under they are eating breakfast. Brekkie time for me too! Nice to have you here Laurel. ❤

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  40. molly says:

    P.S. spawnyspace is quiet on weekends

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    Could prove useful

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  42. Cill says:

    Sex couldn’t cause me to bond with a woman. If I was already bonded, sex wouldn’t strengthen the bond but would be necessary to maintain it.

    I had bacon and eggs for breakfast, from open range chooks and wild pig. Life is good.

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  43. Moi says:

    Nope. Varies by the people involved. Sounds cute though…

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  44. Moi says:

    It does… Ok more correct is it “can” have binding power for men too. But it’s a crap shoot.

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  45. Moi says:

    It depends on the girl.

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  46. RichardP says:

    @Laurel: :I do think there’s probably something to this “sex creates bonding for women” thing, though not sure about the hormones explanation.”

    If you haven’t seen this post, you might check out the links included there.

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/07/30/n-count-and-pair-bonding/#comment-62395

    Researchers have no such doubts about the hormone explanation. Oxytocin is its name. Ever seen a new mother leak milk when she hears an infant cry (hers, or another)? Oxytocin does that too.

    Women have a lot of it. Men don’t. And testosterone tends to suppress Oxytocin.

    Damn that patriarchy.

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  47. Tarnished says:

    If fun it is not,
    then why do what they do? Perhaps post topic for Tarn this is

    I’m not sure, Yoda.
    I’ve no real idea regarding this. The concept isn’t something I’m personally familiar with, nor do I have any female friends to discuss it with…without someone accusing me of being judgemental, that is.

    I’d prefer to write a post about what chemical reactions generally take place during and after sex in the brains of both sexes.

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  48. RichardP says:

    Re. “Damn that Patriarchy” (sarcasm, for those who missed it):

    Good name for an article, or a woman’s studies class:

    “Testicles are a social construct”

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  49. Tarnished says:

    Molly & Laurel,

    I also loved Seamus prior to us ever having sex. While sharing such intimacy with him has strengthened the bond a little, significantly more bonding comes from simply spending time together.

    It’s been incredibly easy living with him these last few months. Easier than I had ever thought. Pretty dangerous…

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  50. Tarnished says:

    Laurel & Richard,

    Oxytocin is the chemical released into male and female brains during sex, playing with one’s dog, cuddling, spending time with one’s toddler, breastfeeding, and other activities that we typically associate with bonding. However, testosterone suppresses oxytocin. As males have 6-10x more testosterone than the average woman, it only has a minimal effect on the masculine brain. Oxytocin promotes a general feeling of nurturing.

    Vasopressin, on the other hand, is released in similar situations in both men and women, but actually synergizes with testosterone, making it far more effective in the male brain. Vasopressin creates a general feeling of protectiveness and mate guarding.

    So there *is* a bonding chemical for men…it just isn’t the same as women’s since there’s different neurochemical receptors.

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  51. Cill says:

    When it comes to bonding, my little head wouldn’t have any say in the matter.

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  52. Tarnished says:

    What I think sets humans apart in the animal kingdom is the fact that our brain chemistry is similar to that of prairie voles, which are one of the few other socially monogamous species on our planet. In fact, only 3% of mammals have lifemates. The other 97% pick different mates to have children with each cycle. Yet our genital sizes and physical reactions during reproduction link us to sexually promiscuous species like bonobos.

    It’s like our bodies evolved to have many potential mates, but our brains evolved to bond with only 1 or 2 mates over a lifetime. We are a very odd species indeed.

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  53. Padawan says:

    .

    “Testicles are a social construct” (by Padawan, blog doggerel 2014 – ?)

    Between my legs I direct my gaze
    And damn me, what a sight,

    I’ll tell you what, bugger me days
    If they didn’t get it right.

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  54. Yoda says:

    So how a social construct it is?

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  55. Padawan says:

    Quoting RichardP I am.

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  56. Yoda says:

    The concert Malia was attending was in Chicago. A few years ago, Chicago loosened up its fairly strict marijuana laws. Now possession of a small amount of marijuana gets you a ticket instead of an arrest, but the fine is several hundred dollars. Smoking in public, however, is a different offense and can easily lead to arrest. No one is arguing that Malia should be arrested for her smoking (if she was) — but then why should anyone be arrested for it? The rules should apply to everyone, including the president’s family, in the same way.

    http://heatst.com/politics/why-should-malia-obama-face-no-consequences-and-a-poor-black-kid-face-jail/

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  57. Yoda says:

    Twitter’s protectiveness over the new Ghostbusters film is frankly bizarre. First the carpet bomb banning of those @ tweeting the film’s star Leslie Jones, and now a Twitter comedian was apparently forced to delete a tongue-in-cheek tweet because it offended the director, Paul Feig.

    http://heatst.com/tech/twitter-allegedly-forces-comedian-to-delete-ghostbusters-joke-because-it-triggered-paul-feig/

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  58. Yoda says:

    IT’S been one of the most controversial films of 2016, and it seems the final verdict is in for the Ghostbusters reboot, thanks to the film’s box office data, one month after release.

    The news isn’t good: The divisive all-female remake is set to post a $US70 million loss, which dashes any hopes of a sequel, says The Hollywood Reporter.

    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/the-verdict-is-in-ghostbusters-flopped/news-story/b32b89c525233509c899886cbd19862a

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  59. Ame says:

    Tarnished says:

    13 August, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    I’d prefer to write a post about what chemical reactions generally take place during and after sex in the brains of both sexes.

    —————————-

    you should.

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  60. Ame says:

    Tarnished says:

    13 August, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    It’s been incredibly easy living with him these last few months. Easier than I had ever thought. Pretty dangerous…

    ———————-

    wondered how that was going … thought this might turn out to be the case.

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  61. Ame says:

    Tarnished says:

    13 August, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    Laurel & Richard,

    Oxytocin is the chemical released into male and female brains during sex, playing with one’s dog, cuddling, spending time with one’s toddler, breastfeeding, and other activities that we typically associate with bonding. However, testosterone suppresses oxytocin. As males have 6-10x more testosterone than the average woman, it only has a minimal effect on the masculine brain. Oxytocin promotes a general feeling of nurturing.

    Vasopressin, on the other hand, is released in similar situations in both men and women, but actually synergizes with testosterone, making it far more effective in the male brain. Vasopressin creates a general feeling of protectiveness and mate guarding.

    So there *is* a bonding chemical for men…it just isn’t the same as women’s since there’s different neurochemical receptors.

    ———————-

    aaaaand … once again … men and women are very different. and being different is GOOD!!! I like being protected and guarded by my husband 🙂

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  62. Yoda says:

    I’d prefer to write a post about what chemical reactions generally take place during and after sex in the brains of both sexes.

    Minimal opportunities to overshare there would be

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  63. Also, when I google “trump news” daily there are always three very negative and old results in the top listings… Coinky dink? Hummm

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  64. Yoda says:

    Finding comfort in the notion that their former allies were disdainful, hapless rubes, smug liberals created a culture animated by that contempt. The result is a self-fulfilling prophecy. … Over 20 years, an industry arose to cater to the smug style … and culminated for a time in The Daily Show, a program that more than any other thing advanced the idea that liberal orthodoxy was a kind of educated savvy and that is opponents were, before anything else, stupid.

    But to anyone outside the echo chamber the joke was on Stewart and his cronies. The average person could see the invidious contrast; how easily the email accounts of 100 Democratic bigwigs could be hacked, with what contemptuous ease someone could make off with the DNC’s emails, steal all the OPM records. They watched as time after time suspects “well known to the police” executed successful terror attacks in Western cities despite the assurances of the laughing men.

    They saw ISIS run off with billions of dollars of foreign military aid; saw the “smartest people” in history rolled. They were regaled by the spectacle of Putin booting Obama out of the Middle East with a midget air force and a rustbucket navy. They witnessed a bunch of armed thugs torch a US consulate in Benghazi without the dying ambassador even able to make that 3 am call to Hillary Clinton. They watched Turkey wobble and Europe overrun by migrant tides.

    It hit them: it was these ineffably superior people who were the jokers, the clowns whose only tangible skill was to make fun of everybody so nobody would notice that’s all they were good for. In fact the only person they could stop with any probability of success and only if they ganged up on him was Donald Trump. That was it. They can’t see the audience in darkness beyond the footlights heading for the exits.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/08/12/and-none-so-deaf-as-they-who-will-not-hear/?singlepage=true

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  65. Yoda says:

    FYI,

    Faust is the protagonist of a classic German legend. He is a scholar who is highly successful yet dissatisfied with his life, which leads him to make a pact with the Devil, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasures

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust

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  66. Yoda says:

    Speaking of Faust,

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  67. mgtowhorseman says:

    Trumpism can be summed up for many people as

    “There is No Place for us.”

    Disenfranchise any large enough group and they will rebel.
    Be glad for now it is just political (Trumpers) and withdrawl (mgtows/unambitious millenials).

    There is no place for men. For now the giant grumbles and sleeps fitfully. When it awakes?

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  68. Yoda says:

    Furthermore the sins of the mothers are passed onto the children, maybe from generation to generation. A true tragedy this is.”

    – – – – – – –

    until someone stops it.

    Perhaps write a post on how this happened one could

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  69. Spawny Get says:

    As an echo of the Trump articles above
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/14/farage-tears-osborne-pasty-faced-bstard-id-dragged-weasel-neck/

    And he warned that UKIP must stay relevant at the ballot box and make sure people’s frustrations are vented democratically. That, or people would join street movements again, he warned.

    “If there’s no one to speak for them, if there’s no one they identify with . . . then they could easily just say, ‘Well, sod this’. Either they have a political voice in Ukip, or what comes from Ukip, or they join the English Defence League — march on the streets”.

    But UKIP is, for the moment, failing to capitalise on any Brexit boom. Instead the party is rife with infighting as leadership candidates tear chunks out of one another publicly. One of the driving forces behind a Conservative Party-leaning takeover of UKIP – Neil Hamilton – recently branded Mr. Farage a bully.

    “Do I f****** care? Oh please, I mean, honestly. A bully?” Mr. Farage told the Times.

    And on potentially returning as UKIP leader himself, Mr. Farage refused to rule it out.

    “If Brexit wasn’t delivered, then I would have to think seriously about plunging back in… But I hope I don’t have to.”

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  70. RichardP says:

    @Ame: “… aaaaand … once again … men and women are very different … ”

    And, in many ways, these differences are driven by the presence or absence of testosterone. Researchers have been able to turn alpha apes into baby nurturers and mother apes into alpha terrors through the suppression or application of testosterone.

    Hence my facitious suggestion for a course in womens studies called “Testicles are a Social Construct”.

    Not.
    ———

    @Tarn – To adapt your quote a bit (focusing on females because that is where oxytocin has its biggest affect): “Oxytocin is the chemical released into … female brains during … spending time with … someone … .

    I assume you see the connection between that quote and this other quote of yours:

    “It’s been incredibly easy living with him these last few months. Easier than I had ever thought. Pretty dangerous…”

    We are essentially discussing the reason why leading actors in movie productions so often end up in relationships. And why we advise young men and women to spend time with each other only in the presence of others – until they determine through other means that the other might be a potential mate. Because of oxytocin (and to a lesser extent, vasopressin), spending a lot of time alone with someone can create longings for outcomes that logic would otherwise suggest shouldn’t happen.

    This dynamic is at work in male / female bonding, female / female bonding, and – to a lesser extent – male / male bonding.

    And that is all before we consider the issue of pheromones.

    And is the basis for that other Womens Studies class in social constructs: “How emotions short-circuit the intellect”.

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  71. RichardP says:

    I’m assuming that the reader understands that the general definition of “social constructs” is: those things that wouldn’t exist except for the fact that society creates them.

    Testicles, testosterone, oxytocin, and a few others are the biological cause of many behaviors that others are trying to define as only social constructs. I can’t imagine that many women who have had a reasonable education through biology, chemistry, and physics classes actually buy into that argument re. social constructs.

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  72. There is something to the bonding thing for sure. My college roommate would get involved “casually” with a guy and then after sex would end up trying to turn it into a relationship no matter how much of a disaster they were together. And then she’d spend 2 + years chasing a guy who wanted “no strings.” Even when she felt going in she could handle it, she couldn’t. I believed then it was something biological, she could not override it although she kept trying. I don’t think women are really geared for casual sex. There’s really no biological advantage to it, versus for men who can sow their seeds far and wide and prior to modern paternity testing could be long gone before the test strip turned positive!

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  73. Tarnished says:

    I can’t imagine that many women who have had a reasonable education through biology, chemistry, and physics classes actually buy into that argument re. social constructs.

    Nope. Because these so called “social constructs” are actually the result of biology and neurochemistry. I recently had a raging, unhinged TERF try to explain (aka shove a wall of hateful feminist doctrine at my comments section) to me that gender dysphoria isn’t “real”…it’s a social construct, just like the concept of gender, sexes, masculinity, femininity, etc are all social constructs. Also, she helpfully informed me that trans men and women are all of severely inferior intelligence, or they are actors paid by the government to make people believe in differences between the sexes that “have never existed”.

    Thank the Gods it was her first time attempting to comment, so it got stuck in moderation where I could delete it. Fucking nutter, that one.

    Edited to add:
    TERF = trans exclusionary radical feminist or trans exterminationist radical feminist

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  74. Tarnished says:

    And why we advise young men and women to spend time with each other only in the presence of others – until they determine through other means that the other might be a potential mate.

    True. Although in my case Seamus and I were “just” friends for 2 years prior to becoming intimately involved, so that’s a full 12 years of knowing him and spending time with him altogether. It’s this previous bonding time that I believe makes it easy to live together…it’s like an extended sleepover at your best friend’s house.

    Hence why I’m glad that he’s found a new teacher job and will no longer be unemployed come September, so I can move out soon. It’d be too easy to stay in a cohabitation mode with him. As I said: dangerous.

    Just because the literal chemistry is there, doesn’t mean you have to allow yourself to be ruled by it. Conscious steps can be taken to limit the effects, after all.

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  75. Ame says:

    Yoda –

    think upon that i will 😉

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  76. Moi says:

    What’s wrong with dangerous? IIRC, you two have Feelz

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  77. Yoda says:

    A new post by the Gloroius Patriach there is

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  78. Tarnished says:

    “Feelz”? Ugh. No.

    We are literally best friends with the added benefit of being sexually attracted to one another. We’re never going to be boyfriend/girlfriend, much less married, engaged, or otherwise 100% committed. There is no problem with this, since it’s what we both want.

    However, cohabitation laws in our state can be treacherous, and I refuse to have a loaded “gun” regardless of the fact I’d never use it. Also, due to the eventual impermanence of our relationship, it would be unwise of either of us to bond more than we already have. Just being logical about this.

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  79. Moi says:

    I’m sorry. I thought you said that you loved him. Guess I misunderstood what that meant.

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  80. Tarnished says:

    I do love him. And he loves me, or at least has said so and given me no reason to disbelieve him.

    Perhaps you were unaware of what the term “feelz” typically designates on this blog? It is more along the lines of being ruled by tingles + unrestrained emotional responses that may or (more likely) may not have basis in reality, and frequently gets altered from day to day. As many of the female commenters here have pointed out, cyclic hormones are often a cause of this in those affected by them.

    So, no.
    I would die for Seamus.
    When we’re together I live for him.
    I consider his happiness to be of equal, and sometimes higher, importance than my own.
    But this is a constant, never changing mental and emotional state, even on the incredibly rare occasion that we argue. I am not governed by feelz.

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  81. Tarnished says:

    Also, recall that I am very much pro-MGTOW and anti-marriage due to the current divorce/prenuptial laws in the Western world. My insistence on not living with Seamus longer than I had to (in order to help pay his rent while he was unemployed) and my lack of desire to tie either of us down is reflective of that.

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  82. Moi says:

    Ah. On the site I frequent feelz=feelings. Goes with the motto “unf before feelz”.

    Tingles is called, well,… “tingles”. 😉

    Being ruled by tingles = hamster spinning.

    lol

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  83. Tarnished says:

    See, it was indeed a miscommunication. All’s well.

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  84. Moi says:

    And you didn’t even flip your hair to the side, or lean your hips inward! 🙂

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  85. Tarnished says:

    Heh. I have a “pixie” length haircut. It’d be impressive if I could flip that. As for hips…well, Seamus is far more likely to be seen dancing.

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  86. thedeti says:

    @mgtowhorseman

    “She left for 4 months”

    You were much kinder than I. I would have said “if you leave, don’t come back”.

    If Mrs. deti ever leaves, there will be no takesies backsies.

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