From here,
Guys are still picking up the tab, while some women offer but don’t really mean it.
Listen, we’ve all been there. It’s the end of a (somewhat?) successful date, the server brings your bill over and there’s an awkward pause that seems like a standoff in one of those old Western movies. A few scenarios could occur.
One of you will do the good ol’ let-me-pretend-to-reach-for-my-wallet move, while the other snatches up the bill and flashes an Amex like it’s no big deal. Or there could be a friendly bill tug-of-war. Someone may say, “I’ll get the next one” or “I’ll leave the tip.” I mean, the possibilities are endless, but no matter what, it’s always an uncomfortable experience, and in my opinion, the most dreaded part of the date.
Indeed, for many it is dreaded. The problem is the intersection between Feminist SIW dogma and reality. From the top line, it appears that reality is winning.
Let us start with the dogma. SIWs are just that, Strong Independent Women. Men are hopefully still strong and independent; after all, that is who these women are aping. So when two strong independent people (SIP) meet up only some kind of 50/50 arrangement will do (e.g. me this time, you next time). This is simple, and it is what equality demands.
Now, onto the reality. Notwithstanding brainwashing otherwise, guys instinctively know that they need to signal provider status (done through an act of dominance). Furthermore, who doesn’t like a free meal? This is how it goes, even if the fella is not looking for an LTR.
Once again, the reason for the discomfort is the mismatch — the must believe-in dogma meets the unassailable reality.
SIW needs to be relabeled to SIMW.
Significantly Increasing Manipulative Women.
Because they really don’t want equal rights. They want special rights, on their terms and timing.
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Every single date I’ve been on, I’ve paid half or all. My most recent one…with a former coworker who wanted a little more experience talking to a female in a restaurant setting…I paid for the dinner + drinks, he paid the dessert + tip. And, as most here know, I always pay for the entire meal between Seamus and myself but he always gets the tip.
A *real* SIW would do the same as this. ⬆
That they will yet do the fake wallet grab or allow the guy to just pay for everything shows they don’t actually want equality, but rather preference.
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…what Moi said, also. 😉
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This is slightly off topic. The linked article says (paraphrasing) “Men really want you to pay your half for dinner/drinks/whatever on the first date.”
I disagree with this. I don’t think men really care that much about who pays. Any guy who is dropping tons of cash on a first date is a moron and deserves to pay full freight, though.
I think men really want to know if the chick is sexually interested in them on the first date. Not necessarily that she’ll fuck on the first date. But men really want to know they’re not wasting their time. Men really want to know that the woman with them is sexually interested in them, and not just angling for a free meal/killing some time/on an ego trip/getting some validation/whatever else.
I think it should be “men really want you to make a choice – fuck or reject – on the first date.”
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Yup a man should never spend $30 , in total, on a bitch until she puts out and you know she’ll earn it on her back… Or knees…. or all 4’s…. or….
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When we talk about men picking up the tab, are we talking about those in long term relationships as well, or just the beginning stages of dating? I’m trying to think back to all the first few dates I went on where the guy paid automatically. One guy I dated enthusiastically insisted on paying. Even if I offered, he acted like I was silly for it. How sincere are men who say they insist on paying?
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This equality business is a pipe dream. Female gender bias makes it impossible. It’s not their fault, they’re born with it. Blame nature. There’s no sense in men railing about an unchangeable state of affairs. Pay the price for dating women or don’t bother.
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Some of us are just old fashioned, and really prefer to pay at least more often than not.
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I am still from the guy pays mostly school, although I will and have paid.
I think if a gal is not interested in another date, maybe she should pay half and be square? I dunno…
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Yes! ^^^ THIS ^^^ We want to know for real if you are interested by the end of the first date. No one wants to waste their time. And the more that women drag this out, the less likely we are going to continue to try.
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Yeah, good luck with that.
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For example I recently had a neighbor working here helping w handyman type stuff. He was interested but I was not so I mostly paid if we got lunch or something — as a way to signal it wasn’t a “date.” Unfortunately the old guys and gals can’t be just friends thing eventually came up and he got upset it wasn’t going where he wanted, despite my being totally clear all along and insisting on always paying for his time and help.
So even when a gal is really clear about this and pays she should be aware he may be hoping otherwise…
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so … from a man’s pov … if the girl isn’t willing to have sex with him, she should pay? if she is, let him pay?
is this now a type of signal as to whether or not she will have sex?
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There was a great article on this on rules revisited, how guys pretty much know instantly of it’s a yes or a no (based on physical attraction) while gals may not know immediately. I know Deti disagreed with this but I have found it to be the case where I was not initially attracted to a guy but then fell for him over time and after getting to know him better. I do wonder if the genders don’t size each other up differently, leading to this confusion of “does she or doesn’t she?”
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Plenty of “guys as doofus” commercials on the olympics there are.
Perhaps works best for the chick audience it does.
Or perhaps the makeup of the audience matters not
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Don’t you really mean “despite me thinking I was being totally clear…” There really is a big difference in how the genders communicate. What may be clear from your pov, may not be clear from mine. Just because you pay, doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t interested. In fact we may read it as you are.
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Know how to tell if a woman is lying? Her mouth is moving. Women do not do direct communication
If she is truly insistent on paying half, odds are good she is telling you “we are never gonna fuck”
If she is insistent she is paying full, odds are she is telling you “you are alpha and I need to bring more to the table then my 3 holes”
Really I see the check dance as a failure on the dudes part. He should have planned a better mission
If it was a 1st time meet and greet, get their 1st, order your drink, pay cash. Meet at the bar too where it is semi expected you pay as you go. If things go well and you want to keep talking, say ok next round on me, buy that round and no more. If you don’t want to buy a round, be out of sync of her regarding finishing and buying drinks, or change venues and walk and talk
If you really want to pay ( & you fucking shouldn’t) for a traditional dinner, drinks date, get there early, give your debit card to the staff, and when you’re done then bring you the bill to sign. As in they already put it on your card
But really you are a chump if you get to paying to much, to soon. Most women are dishonest agents, and throwing down the cash reeks of beta try harder…. which dries up most clams quicker then the noon day sun.
Your time and money are precious, make them bitches earn access to both. Plus she’ll total love/ hate qualifying herself to you and that love/hate is the sweet spot for wet panties and wallpapering her womb with your baby batter
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Yes, the evaluative criteria is much different.
Alcohol can change it, though… lol
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If you’re a dude who wants to park his meat missile in her love silo, you have to be decent at turning maybe into yes
Maybe isn’t no and most girls are maybes for most guys…. it’s best not to engage to much at all. Most of the time she just needs time to get out of her vigna’s way. The more you say dumbshit the more likely it is you’ll convert the maybe to no
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Know how to tell if a woman is lying? Her mouth is moving.
Apply to Hillary this does?
The woman part I mean
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Too many signals, games, etc.
Just tell the guy you are interested in him, or not.
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It is true even as much time as I have spent in the manosphere there are still big differences in the way women and men think that lead to big misunderstandings. My “totally clear” obviously was not from a guy pov.
It’s difficult even when one is aware, imagine most aren’t aware at all and therein lies the rub…
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It is true a guy can turn a maybe into a yes…
Everything a guy says and does is part of that vetting. So as Ton says perhaps erring on less than more is a good strategy. Be mysterious…
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And by totally clear I was saying repeatedly, “I am seeing someone… I have a boyfriend… My boyfriend and I are planning xyz…”
Perhaps bc he is long distance and not physically present led to the misunderstanding? I am not sure…
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Be mysterious…
Mysterious I am.
Speak funny from your perspective I do.
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Do guys mate poach? Is a gal having a bf not a deterrent or sign she’s not looking?
And by be mysterious I guess I mean display your assets and not your weakness initially. Don’t “anti-game” her.
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Yoda not mysterious to me he is.
After 800 years…
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Oldie but good
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
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Most women don’t even know themselves
Clearly there are guys who are hard yes or a hard no, but most of us dudes are maybes
She will create all the right background story stuff for you if you play it smart. Just keep things moving and turning the tables on her
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Hey boyfriend isn’t my problem
Plus have the time women don’t have a boyfriend and it’s just as another part of turning maybes into yes
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I gave up on dating because women have shifted into cloud cuckoo land for the average digger particularly if he is in the middle of nowhere and there’s no neighbor far as the eye can see. A man alone is okay with his own company mate. In the days before cell phone coverage out here and the internet less than a couple of years ago the rest of the world might as well be on another planet.
I have no human contact for weeks mate. It is not ideal however it is better than the alternative of dating or worse a typical woman living with me which would be hell in the boonies my mates.
To be honest I know good women but they are all from one family who are snapped up or too young. In the SMP the odds are one in 50 million, loser’s odds. MGHOW is the only option for me mates.
Cillo pour a schooner of Cill’s Draught Down Under for me (yeah I have a thirst for it more than the Fosters) and drink to us on the cliff top mate.
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Re: Ton’s dating game link
If anyone wants to be married, they should do so prior to age 30. If they want kids, then before 25. If the wo/man is 100% not interested in marriage they should make that absolutely clear while dating.
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Saying you have a BF and it is a LDR, really means nothing. I’ve been told that, but it was part of their vetting process to see if you were really interested in them. And you have to remember, what you say and what you do, can send two different messages.
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Unusual that was.
A Tarn comment shared minimally it did
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I’m doing better than that, Choico. I stewed farmkill blade beef overnight in a ceramic slow cooker with home-grown spuds, carrots, onions, peas, parsley and herbs and I’m going to follow it with a dark Cill’s DDU.
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And you have to remember, what you say and what you do, can send two different messages.
What can one do if you state outright “I am not looking for a relationship now, I already have a sex partner, and I would be a poor choice for a girlfriend since I’m working/traveling for 12 hours most days.”
Just wondering, because a guy on Facebook keeps telling me he would treat me “like a queen”, and that he’s “confident” we can make my schedule work around him.
I’m unsure how much more blunt it’s possible to be, frankly.
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A Tarn comment shared minimally it did
Sorry, my mistake.
*ahem*
Boobies.
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The thing I envy most is your cool clean fresh water mate. Have a glass of your water for me mate while I sip from me canteen and dream.
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I did. Hope you enjoyed much as I did there, Choicy.
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Tarn flashed the boobies she did.
After 900 years still like boobies I do
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Tarn you need to break contact
No other message will be received
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I can’t go into too much detail but the fact that my ldr was serious was very obvious and repeatedly stated and demonstrated. Like Ton says it eventually came down to total radio silence…
The thing that sucked was I thought I was doing all I could to prevent misunderstanding but it happened just the same.
I hate to say this but I kinda get where burkas and chaperones came from, to eliminate such misunderstandings…
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I don’t wish to put ideas in your head this early in your day Cillo but is that bottle of Grange Hermitage still sitting in your cellar mate? I remember your home garden herbs, healthy and vigorous and with the Grange you have a match made in heaven mate.
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Hell yes I do! Good thinking mate.
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Sampling food now, Choicy. Bloody good and tender. And now the Grange Hermitage. Ah…
On topic about dating, I reckon I’ll end up marrying that Grange, mate. It would be a good catch. I could do worse.
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Choicy …
curious … are you from the outback (did i say that right?) … out there in the middle of nowhere? you come into civilization sometimes … how often do you get to leave being in the middle of nowhere?
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Wonder how dates with Moehau Men and Sheilas work I do
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Tarn and Bloom –
idk why there are some people who don’t understand the word, no, but there are. probably why there are so many affairs. if those don’t care about married people, they sure don’t care about LTR’s, boyfriends, etc.
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Cill getting married? Really?
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Yeah Ame my farm is in one of the Aussie deserts mate. No raods lead to my patch and the only way to leave is by plane unless you want to die. I go weeks without contact with people, however it is the only life I know, having never lived in towns apart from trips overseas on business or holidays mate. I’m not complaining my life is way better than average, there are no feminists or SJWs for a start. I’d probably think they were a bunch of mutated Platypuses if they came here and shoot them.
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Unfortunately, I think you’re correct, Ton. I tried being kind, then firm, and finally blunt…That bit of quoted text above is my actual last message to him. Afterwards, he immediately responded with “I know it can work if you give it a real try.”
I facepalmed using the closest wall.
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Platypus are cuter.
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And less of an eldritch horror reminiscent of Lovecraftian dreamscapes.
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Wonder how dates with Moehau Men and Sheilas work I do
Lots of…clubbing. 😉
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And Ame I can see the confusion, so many people would go out on let’s, ltr’s, and even marriages. Commitment is negotiable all too often today. Probably broken more often than not, sadly…
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He thought of marrying the bottle of Grange which is Grange Hermitage the name of his wine from South Australia Ame. It is a famous Aussie wine mate, he could do worse. 😉
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Choicy do you have neighbors? Family living w you? Did you grow up there?
Personally I like solitude and don’t get enough of it between being a mom and running a biz w lots of public contact, but it’s hard to imagine that amount of alone time…
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Hi Bloom how are you mate? I have lots of relatives, no family living within cooey of my patch. There are workers etc however I can’t be specific or I’ll reveal my identity to other desert farmers. There are not many of us in the desert.
I don’t have contact with people for stretches of weeks. I don’t mind. I’d like to see a lot more of my best mate Cillo who I see about twice a year if I’m lucky. It can’t be helped much mate, we’re busy jokers.
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wow, Choicy.
is there any water out there? lakes?
that is a very different life than anything i’ve lived before.
and you live in a tent? i’m assuming that’s not all the time.
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ah, Choicy! since i don’t drink much at all, i totally missed that one 🙂
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Bloom – i met my first husband at 19 and married
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oops …
i met my first husband at 19 and married at 21 … three years between being divorced and remarried, so i’ve been married most of my life. i’ve been surprised at the men who couldn’t care a less i was married. there are some who just do not do ‘no.’ 😦
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I live in a house on the farm Ame. I stay out in my tent when it’s more time efficient to sleep out on a job than go back to the house. I sleep out in a tent, and if i had a wife I might not sleep out as much mate. 😉 The empty house is safe. There is no risk of burglars in my neck of the woods unless by plane which is unlikely.
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Now this digger must leave the company of you delightful ladies and get back to the hard yakka. Goodbye my mates.
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Choicy – we always enjoy when you stop by and honor us with your presence! thank you for answering so many questions!
btw – i wouldn’t be fearful of burglars … i’d be terrified of all the critters! eeeeeek!!!!!!!
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Do guys mate poach? Is a gal having a bf not a deterrent or sign she’s not looking?
As the Ton so succinctly put it, not my problem. If the girl is throwing IOIs at me like an old lady feeding pigeons in the park, then I operate under the assumption that she’s looking to trade up.
Or she just wants a ride on the SumoTrain. Either one works for me.
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And are you two friends on FaceSpace?
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Did you ever ask him to come over and do handyman stuff, AFTER telling him you had a BF and a LDR?
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Choicy: Farm? Can only access by plane? So how do you get your produce to market? Also by plane? Or are you “farming” opals?
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I think so…would have to check. I only go on Facebook once every 2-3 months, and my “friends” are all former and current customers for the most part so they can quick message me without needing my cell number. So he’s probably a former customer. Honestly, the name is familiar but not any of his pictures. Which is saying something because I can place names to faces very well.
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i hope he’s not a stalker, Tarn. be careful, okay.
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Moi yes I told him from the start of the job that I had a bf and ldr. I was always careful not to lead him on. I am a friendly person in general so perhaps he misread that. I mentioned the bf and ldr repeatedly on purpose. I do think that maybe he hoped for something like Sumo describes…
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Sometimes cruelty is kindness….. just don’t over do it
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Girls lie about ldr bf’s so damn often most men no longer belive them
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Might I suggest you tell him again that you are not interested, and will have to unfriend him.
Then actually do it.
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True, I get it. Lesson learned…
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And guys know that most LDRs don’t last anyway.
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I did last night. Just hope he doesn’t use this “slight” to drag my name through the dirt.
Last time I had this happen, I told the guy a very firm but polite NO, and then was informed by another customer that I was being called a cocktease and money-grubbing slut all over said guy’s Facebook page. His posts said I was a complete bitch/slut who refused to look at any man that made less than $80k or some shit. Apparently he thought I declined his date offer because he was unemployed (which I didn’t even know and obviously wouldn’t have made a difference).
Hence why I stay off social media altogether. It’s a crapfest.
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He will
And you should
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-global-elites-forsake-their-countrymen-1470959258
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http://nypost.com/2016/08/11/weak-economy-is-responsible-for-rampant-swoleness-study/
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Only the college educated can be this dumb
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/08/11/debate-flares-after-black-college-students-seek-a-non-white-roommate/
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RichardP yeah mate there are roads. I was as clear as a pakapoo ticket mate. The roads to my patch are not for the uninitiated, roads don’t lead here like Rome. Human visitors come by plane, so, they will leave by plane unless they have a death wish. I think that is clearer mate.
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From Ton’s WSJ link,
But there was a fundamental problem with the decision that you can see rippling now throughout the West. Ms. Merkel had put the entire burden of a huge cultural change not on herself and those like her but on regular people who live closer to the edge, who do not have the resources to meet the burden, who have no particular protection or money or connections. Ms. Merkel, her cabinet and government, the media and cultural apparatus that lauded her decision were not in the least affected by it and likely never would be.
Nothing in their lives will get worse. The challenge of integrating different cultures, negotiating daily tensions, dealing with crime and extremism and fearfulness on the street—that was put on those with comparatively little, whom I’ve called the unprotected. They were left to struggle, not gradually and over the years but suddenly and in an air of ongoing crisis that shows no signs of ending—because nobody cares about them enough to stop it.
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@Tarn there was a backlash like that in my case too. It hurts but you know it’s not true. In my case I was accused of using him and taking advantage even though I always paid him for his work and time and it was clearly “a job.”
True most ldr’s don’t work, I can see that reasoning. But in this case the evidence of things being active and going well was obvious on a daily/regular basis.
In any case I thought w all that there wouldn’t be confusion but I was wrong. I really think it’s true that men and women can’t be friends really.
And I would agree w the above, if a woman is not interested in a guy she should pay her way and not keep going on dates or spending time “as friends.”
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You have roads? That’s 1st world compared to some of my vacation spots
When I was in Africa, these dudes would cut the “road” then try to get you to pay them a few bucks to fix the road….. not sure that ever worked. We just drove around
And by road I mean tire marks left by the last couple of trucks that went that way
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I know I as much ruthless toward women in dating but a man’s choices are
Don’t date
Be ruthless about
Get played by bitches
Which kind of sums up the red pill/ man of sphere message
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Yeah Ton it is a bit like that here, you make your own tracks for miles. It’s a long way to the first formed road and gravel and pot holed tar are our freeways mate.
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Don’t run the video on “CNN” at bed time unless you want to be like this digger off to sleep as mad as a cut snake. In America it is worse than Democrats + Media v Republican, the media are openly crooked Clinton’s campaigne staff. Goodnight mates.
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That would kind of bug me Choicy… it oddly offends my sense of property rights to be break brush on another man’s land
Weird but there it is
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@redpillgirlnotes: “I really think it’s true that men and women can’t be friends really.”
A relationship columnist in the U.S. once said that, for a marriage to have a chance of success, there needs to be at least a spark of sexual attraction / tension between the two.
If that advice is true, then we can assume that the opposite is also true: there are many men and women between whom there is no mutual spark of sexual tension. I think the only pairing between male and female that can be truely about friendship is where neither the male nor female has any sexual interest in the other. Even if only one has sexual interest and the other does not, problems are bound to develop.
So – two rhetorical questions: 1) Who is it that men and women usually “see”? I think the answer more often than not will be “people where there is at least a spark of sexual interest on the part of the observer”. 2) GIven two equally qualified candidates, which one will you hire? Again, I think the answer more ofen than not will be the candidate where there is at least a spark of sexual interest on the part of the hirer.
So – I think it is possible for men and women to be friends – but only with those they would not normally notice – since we tend to notice most those to whom we feel a spark of sexual interest, and that filter is what causes the problems if the spark of sexual interest is not mutual.
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True Ricard. Also on another blog that’s sadly no longer around there was a good discussion of this. The guys said men don’t hang around w women they aren’t interested in, so there again if he’s putting in time he’s interested as more than a friend.
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This seems to be written by a T camp@ign insider…
http://www.returnofkings.com/93212/why-the-media-disinformation-campaign-against-donald-trump-will-fail
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I really think it’s true that men and women can’t be friends really.
It seems to be much easier if each person is in some type of relationship. Of my friends, Seamus is “mine”, and P is gay.
C, K, R, and T are in 5-7 year marriages.
M is a very dedicated careerist who admits to having 0 interest in having any relationship, and D is in a 22 year marriage.
J simply says he’d like a wife eventually, but he’s not actively looking.
If there’s no real desire for anything to go on between the man and woman, then a friendship can form. If one of the two is pining for the attentions of the other…Nope.
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Choicy’s day finishes late and mine starts early. Kia ora.
Ton it oddly offends my sense of property rights to be break brush on another man’s land. Same here.
The media misinformation campaign against Trump is not confined to American media. It’s down under as well. They have abandoned any semblance of objectivity.
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“on another blog that’s sadly no longer around”
Aha RPG, have I got a treat for you coming up…Hierarchy of the Herd no less
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Trump? Hell yeah, was it last week we had Al-Ja-Beeba blaring on about how Trump was finished and would have to drop out? Shameless cunts. Absolutely shameless.
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Looking forward to it me old mate.
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New post at my place… https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/2016/08/12/beware-male-female-friendships/
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I’ve made a draft post of ‘Hierarchy of the Herd’, and a follow-up consisting of a comment of mine at the time.
Might the glorious Yoda and FarmBoy arrange a suitable publication date?
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I never went this way…perhaps I was prescient?
2:28 is where the fun starts, advice for when wifey suggests marriage counselling.
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Publish the Glorious Patriarchs post early Monday Morn Farm Boy will
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Cheers Yoda.
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Spawny thanks for bringing that one back, the Hierarchy of the Herd was a classic! I love the idea of reposting some of the now defunct j4g stuff again for those who missed it — good stuff!
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What is j4g?
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J4G: Just for Grins, Jeans for Genes (UK charity), Jobs for Growth, Just for Girls, Just for Guys ?
(sigh) u old people and y acronyms..
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Yoo kidz donet kno not nuffink bout histree. J4G = JustFourGuys. A very enjoyable website that imploded spawning this site as a consequence.
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UncaS has the wisdom of the aged.
Quick on my bike and outta here-
KA-R-R-O-A-R!!!!
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Enjoy the mement: I sit next to a pile of perfectly ripe apples, warm from the 90 degree sun. The air smells like nectar and honey and roses… Ahhhhhhhhhh
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Mement! Lol so soloptic of me!
I mean moment! 😉
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One from Bloom’s past?

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Enjoy the mement: I sit next to a pile of perfectly ripe apples, warm from the 90 degree sun. The air smells like nectar and honey and roses… Ahhhhhhhhhh
Bloom you are talking about the picture at 10:41 pm ?
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Strewth
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Looks blonde that picture does.
Also big boobies she does have.
Perhaps Tarn it would be
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Aussi avec ze pritty Frennch aczent
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Ode to D-Cup (by Padawan, blog doggerel 2014 – ?)
Not too big and not too small
The D-size cup is the best size of all
But at a stretch I would also agree
Awesomely good is the big double-D
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The Ton likes books. D’s and double D’smmmmmmm Girl#2 has Been cups……. so yummmy…..
Dated a girl who had to special order her bra….. they were so large they were distracting but I powered through it 😉
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LOL! y’all are hilarious!
so … i guess the question, Men, is … do you care if they’re real or fake?
what do you think of padded and push-up bras?
🙂
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And the second response is from a woman who says ‘I’m not like that.'(Wow, impressive. She’s obviously dated a lot of women and knows what she’s talking about.)
Who cares? Women are like that. Get a new hobby horse.
Men buy dinner.
The richest woman I dated had homes in Manhattan, Connecticut and the Vineyard. When I say ‘home’ in Manhattan, I’m talking about a two floor apartment with a private elevator shared with a noted rock icon.
I flew up to the Vineyard in my little plane. Her home there is where obama and the Clintons vacation. I bought dinner. If I hadn’t her interest level would have gone from 98 (please fuck me against this tree 40 feet from the restaurant) to 54 (When are you leaving again?).
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redpillgirlnotes says:
12 August, 2016 at 10:33 pm
Enjoy the mement:
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Bloom – that’s priceless! i think you’ve just coined a new word 🙂
a moment?
a mement?
a yoment?
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BuenaVista says:
13 August, 2016 at 12:10 am
And the second response is from a woman who says ‘I’m not like that.'(Wow, impressive. She’s obviously dated a lot of women and knows what she’s talking about.)
Who cares? Women are like that. Get a new hobby horse.
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BV – if you didn’t care so much, why’d you mention it to begin with 😉
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BV is into butts, not boobs. As a mature man, he would prefer they point out or up, not be interfering with her waistline. A or B. C with post-child medical assistance.
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“As a mature man”
or just an honest one? tehe
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Ok. To a guy “LDR”<"Null Points". All it indicates is that there is some guy that you occasionally "might fuck", and not that serious. LDR is even < FWB.
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I don’t care about women making shit up, Ame I do care that naive men are steered away from their bullshit.
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LDR<o
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Fake D-Cup (by Padawan, blog doggerel 2014 – ?)
Wanna hear something I simply can’t take?
It’s the boob in my face is an obvious fake
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Spawny, if I weren’t pecking out on a tablet, I could tell stories about drinking in Glasgow. People have no idea.
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BV – “I don’t care about women making shit up”
i’m not trying to be difficult, but i am curious.
so, if you have not experienced or seen or heard of something personally, then you assume the person is making it up?
can something not be true for a few but also be true for the majority?
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A new post there is
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There was a young man from … Iowa
He fancied a girl from New York-awa
They chatted at 5
She sexted at 9
Her husband was never the wise-a.
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that’s sad 😦
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Ame, the day I hear a woman saying I divorced him because I was bored, or, I wanted more money, will be the first time. You all just reference ‘abuse.’. We’re onto it.
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Drinking in Glasgow (by Padawan, blog doggerel 2014 – ?)
Drinking in Glasgow left Padawan dead
When a big bunch of locals did stomp on his head.
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No, pretty glorious. He’s a short fat pig with a big mouth. Eventually, even riches fail to compensate for those attributes. I’d continue but it would be a Pulp Fiction scene.
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i hear ya (i think) … i’ve certainly known those.
but there are a few of us out there; not many, but a few. i lost a lot more financially in the divorce than i gained … and he divorced me 😦 . i would not have divorced him, even with the abuse (though there were those who disagreed with me). but i didn’t believe in it and didn’t want it.
bored? hummm … boring would have been nice compared to what i was living with.
you don’t have to believe me; no one has to believe me. i know what is true. but i write for those who need to hear … divorce sucks. it’s hell. don’t go there. and it will destroy your children regardless of all the bs you’re being fed otherwise.
there were times i prayed for his life … b/c there were men, similar in personality to you and the other men out here, who knew what he was doing who really wanted to take him out. i’m not trying to be dramatic, just being honest. i was very thankful to get a copy of his autopsy and find out he passed from natural causes; i was honestly a bit concerned.
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(Padawan continues …)
They weren’t very big
But they kicked like grown pigs
The moral … is observe but do not swig.
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And the second response is from a woman who says ‘I’m not like that.’
True story, brah.
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The Ton is also on a tablet these days
Trying to run my life from one…. well from my bike with Bluetooth and a tablet
Which is pretty fuck modernist for The Ton
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I’m archaic, I guess. Really prefer a keyboard. Its hard to believe how cheap these tablets are, though.
Things change. Girls stop wearing panties and computers 100,000x more powerful than the Apollo jocks depended on cost $33.
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Lol I am trying to embrace this technology shit so I can spend more time with my most beloved, the girl of my dreams and my one true love….. that 04 electra glide I built. The one with the 124 ci power plant
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124 x 2.54^3? Around 2 litres? On a bike…hmm
I mean it sounds like the product of a male mind let loose in a workshop alright.
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are you looking to put the tablet in the fairing?
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Moi in my case the ldr is legit. But I get what you are saying… Most aren’t.
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Padawan!!! It has been to long my friend 🙂
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Who Pays?
By Bloom
Recovering poet
To pay or not to pay?
That is the question
Or if you are BV
Just jump right to the sexting!
Lol
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https://www.google.com/amp/observer.com/2016/08/tech-companies-apple-twitter-google-and-instagram-collude-to-defeat-trump/amp/
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lol that’s kind of cool, but no I am not.
I keep the damn thing either in the saddle bag or velcro’ed to my tank. Sometimes it’s nice to have a 10 inch map on display… as it helps with land navigation and breaking the law via speeding
That set up in the video removed a lot of gauges… the Ton loves his rpm and oil pressure/ temperature gauges
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