So Simple


Deti states,

Whenever a woman is complaining about lack of sex in her marriage, or problems with her husband, the best way she can solve them is to fuck her husband.

I see why women don’t want to do this. Most women are married to men they aren’t really all that sexually attracted to. But still… the ONLY gift any woman really needs to give her husband is her body. If she would only give him that, she could fix so many problems and accomplish so much in her marriage.

And yet it goes undone.

Much of the time, it is that simple.  Of course, men also want respect and pleasant women, but sex comes first. A content man works harder and with fewer issues.  Yet women so often fail in this regard.  Why?

Much of it starts with the fact that women have been elevated so much and men downgraded even more.  Women just can’t get the tingles going in such a situation.  He is a breadwinner, she is a breadwinner, she is awesome, and he is along for her awesome ride. Nope — no tingles.

That is why thugs and hunky pool boys can clean up.  They offer something that maybe she has some of (assertiveness, muscles), but they have more.  Finally something different, finally something better.  So women dream about these men, often flocking to them.  But one thing they have no desire for is their typical beta bux husband.  At least sexually, though they do like his beta bux.

When they do have sex with their husbands, it often falls into a manipulation type scheme.  I will give you sex if you do this task.  Naturally enough, the husband feels exploited (and probably short-changed).  Furthermore, he doesn’t feel the need to go the extra mile over for anything.  They are most definitely not operating as a cohesive unit.

This scheme typically works well in the short term, but never works particularly well for either the manipulator of the manipulatee in the long run.  It is, however, so very easy to fall into this trap; as it works so well at first.

There it is, plain and simple, women.  There is what to do, and what not to do.  It can be win-win or lose-lose.  The choice is yours.

 

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141 comments on “So Simple
  1. Farm Boy says:

    BV from the previous thread,

    Deti is correct. Husband #2 was selected for “security.”. Our parents called that ” marrying for money.” However, back then women still felt obligated to honor conjugal obligations. Today, they marry for money and feel entitled for some AF. And their BB cucks wonder if they shouldn’t put up with it. Like that makes things better with a wife who already thinks he’s a WUS.

    An interesting exercise, if you enjoy watching “How dare you!” meltdowns, is to ask such a woman how much money she needs each month to leave her husband. A sadist would follow up by saying “I guess I should just ask your Dad what level of net worth would garner his blessing.”

    In the end, it’s just about orgasms and money. Want marital happiness? Orgasms AND money. Not orgasms OR money. Somebody should do a PSA and save a generation of young men.

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  2. Also before I read Deti’s post I was way over thinking things as far as what makes things work! It really is pretty simple, isn’t it?

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  3. I have shared this same advice w several women in troubled marriages who are considering divorce and sadly being nice to their husbands seems to be the last thing on earth they want to do. They have the power to turn things around, save their family, be happy but instead they refuse and just keep complaining. 😦

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  4. mgtowhorseman says:

    http://theredpillroom.blogspot.ca/2013/03/youre-just-going-through-stage.html?m=1

    RPG

    Best description of what awaits them I ever read.
    Ends with the iconic “so if after all this they still want to do it…let them. Your husband’s NEXT WIFE is standing by.”

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  5. Great link horseman, and I completely agree! Thanks for sharing that!

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  6. Ame says:

    [***Ton Warning*** Long-Winded Chick-Writing Ahead! 😉 ]

    Horseman …

    that link is really tragic. and even more so b/c i’ve seen it … and am in that story … i am the daughter of that woman … i am the 2nd wife who is enjoying the love of a man whose previous wife spit on him … and, in reverse, i am the one from the first marriage who had to watch my husband/ex-husband do what the wife in the story did. i am the mother of the children whose lives were shattered by divorce b/c their dad left. i am the step mom of a son whose life was shattered b/c his mom didn’t want to be married to his dad anymore. and, sadly, i’m the sister of that woman.

    though my dad was always equally culpable in my parents’ abusive and destructive marriage, she’s the one who left and is living that story. my dad remarried (a bitch), but the bitch gets to enjoy all the spoils of the fruits of my parents’ labors of many years of hard work building my dad’s business.

    before my first husband passed away, he had to watch me find love with a man who valued all that i wanted to give to him, he had to watch another man get to live in the same home as his daughters and be their surrogate father, and he destroyed his relationship with his daughters trying to get back at me. it was, and still is, tragic.

    since my step son just graduated from high school, his mother is no longer receiving child support. she’s been grasping at straws to try to still have some control somewhere, making a total a$$ out of herself all over the board. she started seeing this man, again, who didn’t really want her … but, you know, she gives it out for free, so i guess he’s okay with that. but she talks bad about him … wanting him to spend more money on her b/c, you know, she *deserves* it. he won’t, but she’s lonely. (i think he’s weird and gross and unattractive and wouldn’t want him even if he were the only choice, but you know … i guess she’s desperate … and he gets easy sex).

    but the most tragic of it all are the lingering, shattered pieces my girls and step son must continue to try to pick up and try to make something out of.


    “When abuse or neglect aren’t involved,”

    i am glad he at least put this in there. while i think the overall percentage of women who leave do so b/c of abuse or gross neglect, it does exist. they are not always a good reason for divorce, but they sometimes are.

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  7. Spawny Get says:

    Hey, I don’t know much about Trump, just a face on the TV who appears to talk about the issues of normal folks (unlike anyone else). He kind of reminds me of Farage but with the ego turned way up. Who knows what he can and will do when voted in?

    But I will say that it’d take a stomach of titanium and being thick as a brick to vote for the alternative. Beyond the trail of destruction, death, missing money and lies behind her…those videos…those videos! They’re not gotcha moments taken out of context. You’d have to be insane to put her near power.

    So I have to see ‘Never Trump’ as a last ditch desperate move to try and get Trump replaced because:
    a) he’s going to win. The Trumpslide is coming, they can’t doctor the polls enough. BREXIT was the same (until the martyrdom of St Jo of Cox*), so many people (admittedly many online) just couldn’t reconcile the poll results on TV with their everyday lives.
    b) very few could go into the privacy of the booth and seriously hate Trump enough to pull the Hillary lever. I do not believe it.

    (*they milked the murder of this MP to death. Once the referendum poll doors closed…nothing. The media were absolutely cynical over this. If we’d lost, her death would be where I laid much of the blame, but in the end she died in vain)

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  8. Spawny Get says:

    Don’t you prefer opposition that you can trust to a traitor at home?

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  9. True spawny there seem to be many parallels w brexit. It’s surreal to see the so obviously slanted coverage day after day. I sure hope others are noticing and secretly thinking the same. Weird times…

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    Look, if a chick is into you, she’ll be on your junk every chance she gets
    If she isn’t, next that bitch, bang 10 more

    It really is that simple. Women are that simple. Remember they are convoluted not complex, and it should not take much red pill learning to see through their bullshit…. and they’ll “love” you for seeing through their bullshit

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  11. SFC Ton says:

    LOL Thanks for the warming darling but I had already planed to skip anything that long

    5 sentences of lady gibberish is the full extent of my curiosity…. and most days it’s more like 1-3

    I can only think of one semi regular lady poster who I’ll read at length and most of the time she is relaying what her old man thinks. Which is the most intelligent and Intresting thing women can say

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  12. Ame says:

    ha!

    my husband has the smile and nod thing down … i’m sure there’s only some percentage of what i say that he hears 🙂

    and he doesn’t like reading what i write b/c, as he says, he already knows all that so why read it! 🙂

    anyway … was trying to avoid your delightful comments about how the women talk too much … at least i got a different reaction this time! 🙂

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  13. Spawny Get says:

    Ame, your long comment was worth the read. ’nuffsed

    Ton you’re so dark lmao. And so often right. Just not all the time (like me)

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  14. Ame says:

    Three ‘likes’ for our Glorious Patriarch’s comment! 🙂 🙂 🙂

    (ahhh … thank you!)

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  15. SFC Ton says:

    Dark? I’m Scott-Irish and rather pale. I do have a righteous motorcycle tan…. ruddy I think would be the word

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  16. SFC Ton says:

    Of the aforementioned lady poster also rarely posts and semi asks for permission to do long posts on a male focused blogg

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  17. Ame says:

    blond hair? red hair?

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  18. SFC Ton says:

    Blonde head hair with some red and grey
    Grey beard with some blonde and red

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  19. Ame says:

    not how i pictured you!

    assume you screen regularly for skin cancer? my brother has similar coloring and has had a good amt of pre-cancer removed from face and melanoma from shoulder.

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  20. Moi says:

    Yes. Because they are sore losers.

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  21. SFC Ton says:

    Cancer doesn’t have the balls to take me on…..

    When I was younger, I was so fair skinned I’d get sunburned through my clothes

    It’s something I have become concerned about recently. Between the Army, bikes and fishing I been sunburned way to many times

    I’m short, sqaut and ugly, with enough tattoos and scars for three men. Not much to imagine, though a few people around here have seen me

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  22. Moi says:

    Excellent linked post. If only it was required reading when they hit 18…

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  23. Moi says:

    Physical abuse is NEVER an appropriate response to relationship issues. But neglect may be caused by ones own actions.

    184. When a wife tries to train a man to not want her sexually, she will surely succeed. She will also succeed in training him to want someone else.

    https://theredpillproverbsbible.wordpress.com/2016/05/25/the-red-pill-proverbs-the-bible-book-of-proverbs/

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  24. Yoda says:

    The oiled up Tongan flag bearer, Pita Taufatofua, is the latest victim of the pernicious female gaze. His shining body was violated, not only by the drooling announcers at NBC… but by the world.

    http://heatst.com/culture-wars/the-2016-rio-olympics-have-been-ruined-by-the-female-gaze/

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  25. Yoda says:

    When a wife tries to train a man to not want her sexually, she will surely succeed. She will also succeed in training him to want someone else.

    Wonder if women consider this they do.
    And if they do, care they would?

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    Womit, I bet he’d run a fucking mile from a fight.

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  27. Moi says:

    Nope

    And only after someone else has her claws around him

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  28. Yoda says:

    It looks like Malia Obama may have been doing more than just twerking and hanging out with Secret Service agents at last month’s Lollapalooza festival in Pennsylvania.

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2016/08/10/malia-obama-caught-on-video-smoking-pot-at-lollapalooza/

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  29. Yoda says:

    Putin vs. Trudeau
    Battle for the tundra

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  30. y’s T ad on Twitter:
    The Establishment and special interests are absolutely killing our country. We must put #AmericaFirst.

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  31. thedeti says:

    There are a lot of reasons why FB’s post reflects the state of many marriages, most of which fail, some of which plod on in misery and adultery. FB does a good job of breaking these things down.

    The biggest problem is women settling. Women marrying men they aren’t attracted to. This is a direct result of women having lots of premarital sex with men who are much more attractive than the men she can actually marry.

    What follows is marriage to a man she’s not all that attracted to. So the man has strikes 1 and 2 already against him. Add to that the fact that he’s probably beta anyway, predisposed to pedestalizing and supplicating.

    Men are expected to put up with all manner of shit from their women; when what would actually work is him telling her in no uncertain terms not to flip him any more shit. Men are expected to ask for sex when what would work is escalating to sex and moving to it; then moving on quickly and NEXTing her after a rejection.

    Men aren’t taught how to refuse to put up with shit from women, how to refuse shit from everyone, really.

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  32. thedeti says:

    Women really need to stop having so much premarital sex. This isn’t a Puritanical, Christian tradcon argument. They really need to stop doing it because it screws them up so much. It prevents them from being able to gin up sexual attraction for men they can actually get a commitment from.

    Women really need to stop settling for and marrying men they aren’t sexually attracted to. Women need to reserve marriage for men they want to fuck so badly that they can’t stand it. The only marriages that really work now are those in which she is strongly sexually attracted to him. There are two manosphere examples of this, and we both know who they are. Those are the only marriages that work now.

    Ton is right. Men really need to stop settling for bad sex or no sex. The first goddamn time she rejects you sexually for anything other than being on her period, NEXT. No BJs? NEXT. Flips you shit about wanting sex? NEXT. Starts hemming and hawing about sex? NEXT. If she doesn’t absolutely rip your fucking clothes off every time you see her, NEXT.

    Men really need to stop putting up with bullshit from their women. Men need to ruthlessly NEXT more women. They need to nut up and start rejecting more women and refusing to buy into this idea that they will never be able to do any better. If a man really can’t do better, then he needs to start getting OK with the idea of never marrying and being alone, like The Shadowed Knight. Take it from experience: It is far, FAR better to be alone than it is to be with a woman who hates you or doesn’t want to fuck you.

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  33. SFC Ton says:

    Hey big Deal you handled that dude and Vox like a pro

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    I agree that women not being able to have sex like men pre-marriage is ‘unfair’. HOWEVER, according to marriage and divorce stats nature is unfair in this area, the higher the female N the worse the divorce risk. Women should understand that riding the carousel is their right but marriage afterwards will, as a consequence, be difficult. Men should enforce this.

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  35. SFC Ton says:

    It’s not fair is an argument for kids

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    Well, kids and femeroids

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    Well…this is fucking bizarre

    Why did the car driver not want to stop next to the crowd of protesters standing in the road?
    And where were the police when the BLM guys needed them? Why weren’t they protecting the people shouting death to pigs etc?

    I’m not saying that anyone’s actions were wrong or right, but to not even wonder why??? It’s the action of children to slag their parents off then wonder why their parents aren’t interested in buying them the latest wotsit for their birthday. How frigging thick are these people?

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    Not that I agree, but it is funny

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  39. BuenaVista says:

    Ame, describing her sister’s behavior:

    “…but.you know, she gives it out for free …”

    Interesting problem. I’ve never speculated on what my sisters or daughter should charge for sex. Will ponder. For non-sisters, I’ve found the price to roughly reflect a tank of gas. However, a fancy meal and a tank of gas might yield ‘it just happened ….!’ liberties. Its a judgment call, of course.

    ***

    There’s a third model to Deti’s binary picture. That’s the woman who tears your clothes off — and is one and done in four minutes. That’s some serious solipsism, right there. And I’m not talking about a teenaged woman.

    Imagine the scorn to be visited on a ‘mature man’ who practiced slam bam thank you m’am. ‘You’re not serious” does not begin to solve that problem, such is the entitlement of the modern Strong Woman. “Well, we’re not doing this again”(Deti’s Next) does seem to register with females. I do think we live in an age when women wait for complaints and threats prior to modifying their behavior. This is new.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

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  41. mgtowhorseman says:

    one of rollos iron rules.
    better to start over than invest in fixing someone’s desire.

    a.k.a. NEXT

    The second most powerful word in the english lanuage
    right after NO.

    Do you want to…
    NO
    But I want you to…
    NEXT.

    There is always more fish (in need of bicycles)

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  42. […] advice? Don’t. Swallow your pride, start being kind to your husband, put aside past hurts, take charge of creating your own happiness right where you are instead of […]

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    Don’t evem think of liking this news, but…
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/698687/Angela-Merkel-Germany-economy-Brexit-European-Union

    EUROZONE ON THE BRINK: Germany set to be plunged into ECONOMIC CHAOS, expert warns

    GERMANY’S economy could be plunged into chaos following Britain’s decision to quit the European Union (EU), experts have said.

    The German Institute for Economic Research believes the after-shock of June’s momentous Brexit vote could be felt in Berlin and beyond for years to come.

    Germany’s economy will be affected more than other Eurozone countries due to its reliance on exports, according to staggering new research by the group.

    A spokesman said: “Even after two years, the gross domestic product will still be below the level it would have been without the shock of this uncertainty.”

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  44. Ame says:

    Ton –
    “Cancer doesn’t have the balls to take me on…..

    When I was younger, I was so fair skinned I’d get sunburned through my clothes

    It’s something I have become concerned about recently. Between the Army, bikes and fishing I been sunburned way to many times

    I’m short, sqaut and ugly, with enough tattoos and scars for three men. Not much to imagine, though a few people around here have seen me”
    ———————

    haha!
    God help the cancer (or anything else) that tries to take Ton on!

    and … we’re all probably ugly to someone … it’s the ones we’re handsome/beautiful/sexy to that are worth keeping around.

    fair skin in the south is no fun. i’ve blistered more times than i can count growing up on the beach 😦 . got to where i always wore makeup around my mother (whose skin is native american) b/c she kept saying i was sick b/c i was so fair.

    my brother, though, moved from florida to hawaii, big-time surfer (not so much in his older years as he’s 50 now and has his own business) but still spends a ton of time outside in the water/on the water without a shirt on. had a good sized chunk taken out of his shoulder several years back for melanoma. he now sees the doc regularly.

    it would be wise to out-fox melanoma and simply have your skin checked regularly.

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  45. Ame says:

    BV –
    “Ame, describing her sister’s behavior:

    “…but.you know, she gives it out for free …”

    Interesting problem. I’ve never speculated on what my sisters or daughter should charge for sex. Will ponder. For non-sisters, I’ve found the price to roughly reflect a tank of gas. However, a fancy meal and a tank of gas might yield ‘it just happened ….!’ liberties. Its a judgment call, of course.”
    ———-

    was actually describing my husband’s ex-wife as the one who gives it out for free …

    however … your comment is interesting. i guess i’m really old-fashioned or just don’t see things through the eyes of a man or people these days (for the non-sisters).

    my mind can’t even go to: “what my sisters or daughter should charge for sex.”

    it used to be marriage. but women have screwed that up and cheapened themselves to a tank of gas and a fancy meal … and for some reason, too many think that’s a ‘good price.’ and what’s even more tragic is that they don’t even see it.

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  46. Ame says:

    thedeti –
    “The biggest problem is women settling. Women marrying men they aren’t attracted to. This is a direct result of women having lots of premarital sex with men who are much more attractive than the men she can actually marry.”

    TRUTH. LEGIT. THIS.

    my first husband was the first man i had sex with. ignoring all the other issues in the marriage … i had no idea he wasn’t *that* great until i married my 2nd husband … who is freaking amazing in bed. if there’s another man who’s better, i don’t even want to know b/c my husband is awesome.

    if my first husband hadn’t been so stupid, i would never have known … and i would have been very happy and content not knowing what i didn’t know.

    women didn’t like that men could have sex with multiple women and then settle down with one … they wanted to be like men and sleep around, too. but women (in general) are unable to turn off the ‘compare button’ and the ‘wonder-if-there’s-better-out-there’ button once it’s been turned on. they are not able to compartmentalize like men are. and the more they try to convince themselves and the rest of the world they are just like men and can do what men do, the deeper and darker the hole they’re digging and burying themselves in.

    – – – – – – –

    i think there’s another thing that is important to teach our daughters and women, especially in this culture where sex is so open and everywhere … and that is that when you choose to say ‘yes’ to one man, you are also choosing to say ‘no’ to every other man for forever. women need to be taught that they’re just as human as men and that they can easily be and become attracted to other men – nip that in the bud and say ‘no’ b/c you’ve already said ‘yes’ to the one you’re with.

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  47. Yoda says:

    … i had no idea he wasn’t *that* great until i married my 2nd husband … who is freaking amazing in bed

    Perhaps really Tarn you are

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  48. Ame says:

    “Perhaps really Tarn you are”

    tehe!

    but … ummm … no! Tarn gives details. i’ll only give broad generalizations 🙂

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  49. Ame says:

    multiple 100° days make me consider becoming a nudist … however, since i’m 51, and The Wall and i are good friends … and since my husband has the only pair of wife-goggles for me available … and since my teenagers would go freakin nuts … i’ll be good and kind and wear clothes 🙂

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  50. SFC Ton says:

    I lived in Hawaii for a bit. It was my one and only staff job

    The warehoused me there, trying to figure out what to do with me, my missing lung and my insubordination on a couple of issues

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  51. Ame says:

    missing lung and insubordination.

    somehow … that fits 🙂

    is there a story on the lung?

    if you ever go back for fun and want to meet up with someone who knows the islands well, i could see if my bro is around (he and his wife travel all over the world, and i never know when they’re at home and when they’re not). you two would probably get along great though he’s not military. he and i are VERY different, but i love him. i don’t call often, but when i do it is rare he doesn’t answer 🙂 . he’s lived there for some thirty plus years.

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  52. Yoda says:

    Beach volleyball chicks wearing much clothes they are.

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  53. Yoda says:


    A few examples are in order. First, an article published in Foreign Policy with the title: “It’s Time for the Elites to Rise up Against the Ignorant Masses.” The writer claims the world is divided not between right and left, but between the sane and the angry. And the latter are angry simple because they are ignorant. “If they have known better, they would have done better” goes the saying. The masses need education from the elites. Once educated, they will follow their leadership. The Economist’s article “The Politics of Anger” express the same theme. It too views the people of Britain and Trump’s supporters as angry, their anger causing them to vote against the liberal order. Lastly, an article was published in Foreign Affairs, titled “Brexit’s false democracy.” From the article (emphasis mine): “Brexit’s real lesson is that there is a consequential divide between cosmopolitans who view the future with hope and those who have been left behind and have seen their economic situations and ways of life deteriorate.” Again, the problem is not with the European Union, but with people getting hurt from globalization.

    Not a single expert has questioned his own beliefs. Not a single word on the dysfunction of the EU, or why exactly cosmopolitanism should be embraced

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-are-elites-out-touch-look-what-theyre-saying-17258

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  54. Ame says:

    ahhh … you’re right, Yoda … just turned on the tv. well, at least what they are wearing is skin tight … and those bottoms are a bit fabric-deprived 😉

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  55. SFC Ton says:

    Got blowned up.
    It happens

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  56. SFC Ton says:

    Actually blown up then shot, though no one knows what did what. I don’t really remember much of anything; trying to pull my shit togther, then loosing my temper and wanting to kill the motherfuckers who just kilt me, I remember the guys on my crew running past me while I was down and then the doc’s slapping me around telling me I need to be still or I would bleed out

    Then I semi woke up in flight a few times

    Not much to tell really

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  57. Ame says:

    not much to tell?!!!

    i’m guessing telling you to be still or bleed out is about the only way anyone would get you to be still 😉

    – – – – – – –

    seriously, though. sheesh. i’m sorry.

    thank you. sincerely, thank you.

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  58. SFC Ton says:

    Nada
    A wounded Ton lashes out. Sometimes that’s a net positive sometimes not so much. I know what the guys on the crew said, pretty well documented, got some awards out of it etc etc but I have always been mentally disengage during fire fights and what not, like I am not really part of my body, even though I am aware of my actions, logical, rational able to give and receive commands etc.

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  59. Ame says:

    wow.

    is this what got you a bulldog?

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  60. Ame says:

    thought i remember reading that they diagnosed you with ptsd and gave you a dog? thought i remembered it was a pit bull? my brain and memory get twisted up in there sometimes, so i could be totally wrong about that or have you mixed up with someone else.

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  61. SFC Ton says:

    Ahhh gotcha
    The va wanted me to do the ptsd thing since day one of my retirement

    Ptsd is political bullshit, I don’t have it and I am already 100% disabled, no more money left to give poor ol Ton.

    Been rescuing dogs for awhile now, most to mean to take in public. My lady pit is friendly enough, so I did the ptsd thing to have her listed as my service dog

    The va was stoked about the deal because they get more money. I like the idea of helping to overload a corrupt system AND getting to take my beloved dog with me

    Plus people get real compliant when they see me and her with the ptsd service dog patches

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  62. Ame says:

    lol!

    if there’s gonna be a stupid system … best if you learn how to work it! 🙂

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  63. Moi says:

    Agree. But some women don’t think of the getting married part again, until they are older and their SMV had dropped.

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  64. @ ton ( and other fair skinned folk) I was diagnosed w early stage melanoma at age 29. Thank God bc had I waited it could have been much worse. Get a skin check for s#its and giggles, better than wishing one had…

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  65. Ame says:

    Bloom – did you go to a dermatologist or pcp?

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  66. Spawny Get says:

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  67. Yoda says:

    Top picture looks more like Madeline Albright it does

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  68. Tarnished says:

    I agree that women not being able to have sex like men pre-marriage is ‘unfair’.

    Except that the majority of women aren’t able to have sex like the majority of men. Women are able to have quantities of sex similar to either “alpha”, learned, manipulative, or highly charismatic men. The feminist idea that the average man is out there getting laid like a rockstar every weekend is false. (Even Seamus, who is both charismatic as hell and manipulative as fuck when he wants to be tells me he was rejected by many women. He just never gave up.) If women could have sex like men, they’d get married with 5 or fewer partners, not 20+.

    HOWEVER, according to marriage and divorce stats nature is unfair in this area, the higher the female N the worse the divorce risk.

    I agree that the higher the N, the more likely women are to divorce…but only because they can successfully do so plus get the better deal after doing so. Men do not have this option in most Western environments, so they can’t take advantage of it. Unfortunately, the studies that are so oft-quoted regarding female premarital N + divorce rate have no male equivalent studies, so in my opinion this is still inconclusive. What I see happening is that men have/seek out extramarital affairs instead of divorcing. Thus, I still firmly believe that if any man or woman is the marrying sort they should limit their N to creating a deeper bonding experience. If a man or woman is NOT ever going to be wed, then this obviously doesn’t matter nearly as much.

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  69. Tarnished says:

    Look, if a chick is into you, she’ll be on your junk every chance she gets

    Truth.
    Sometimes even more than his body can handle, heh. Damn spirit vs flesh contradiction… 😉

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Did you link up with the bear?
    If so how’s his head space and timing?

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  71. Tarnished says:

    There’s a third model to Deti’s binary picture. That’s the woman who tears your clothes off — and is one and done in four minutes. That’s some serious solipsism, right there. And I’m not talking about a teenaged woman.

    I wouldn’t want a sex partner who uses my body as a masturbatory sleeve, so it should be obvious that a man wouldn’t desire a partner who views him as nothing more than a warm dildo. Hence why it doesn’t matter how many I’ve had, how long we’ve been at it, or how tired I am…

    The sex isn’t done until Seamus finishes too. This may take extra work on my part sometimes due to his age, but his satisfaction (like my own) is NOT negotiable.

    Imagine the scorn to be visited on a ‘mature man’ who practiced slam bam thank you m’am.

    I don’t know, BV.
    Ton seems to have no problem with this. He has said many times that he doesn’t necessarily care if his sex partners orgasm or not.

    Perhaps everyone is too afraid to voice said scorn in his immediate presence.

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  72. SFC Ton says:

    Men and high N count vs divorce….

    To many variables

    Men who can rack up a high N count will certainly have more opportunities to cheat etc vs men who can not rack up a high N count. Most betas will never be in a position to wander. So it’s like apples and some other fruit I can’t spell. All but the most hideous women can find a dick

    Plus…. men who can rack up a high N count are more likely to have wives etc who will look the other way when/if he does but are also more likely to have wives who put out on the regular…. but if she doesn’t he is more able to pull a side piece

    Seems like a dog chasing his own tail situation

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  73. SFC Ton says:

    I’ve tried to explain that to you Tarn, like a dozen times, so did a couple of the ladies here

    But yes, social dominance let’s you say all types of shit in public with out getting called out

    Being a man and not giving a fuck is far different than being a man with performance issues

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  74. Tarnished says:

    Unfortunately, I did not get to meet Fuzzie.

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  75. Tarnished says:

    I’ve tried to explain that to you Tarn, like a dozen times, so did a couple of the ladies here

    Apologies, Ton, but which aspect of my comment is this in reference to?

    Being a man and not giving a fuck is far different than being a man with performance issues

    Of course.

    One *is* a dick in bed.

    The other just needs to use body parts in addition to his dick in bed. 😉 😛

    Edited to add:
    Unless you’re a guy who’s woman either doesn’t care about orgasms or has more trouble achieving them than she thinks is worth the time/effort. I do recall some of our female members here stating that this wasn’t necessary for their full satisfaction. I can’t understand that, but hey…different strokes for different folks.

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  76. SFC Ton says:

    Most women have some sort of issues getting off

    That’s not on the guy, it’s on her

    With 300 ‘ish satisfied customers I am unconcerned about the few who need all sorts of special angles, patterns, positions, stroke counts etc to get off and most women are happy when a guy can take that in stride not to mention most women just plane get off getting taken to pound town with minimal fuss about her

    Ie most women enjoy getting fucked regardless of orgasms

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  77. Tarnished says:

    Whenever a woman is complaining about lack of sex in her marriage…the best way she can solve them is to fuck her husband.

    Maybe I’m missing something or reading this incorrectly…

    If the wife wants sex, and her husband is not willing to partake in it, then how is she supposed to fuck him? 😕

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  78. SFC Ton says:

    Our lack of understanding doesn’t change reality

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  79. Tarnished says:

    not to mention most women just plain get off getting taken to pound town with minimal fuss about her

    So…they get off mentally instead of physically? That does makes some sense, given what we’ve gone over here.

    ie most women enjoy getting fucked regardless of orgasms

    Like I’ve said before, I wouldn’t have sex if I wasn’t 100% guaranteed to reach the finale, but I can appreciate and respect that other people are not like that.

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  80. I am worried about Fuzzie… Hope he’s ok!

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  81. SFC Ton says:

    The female orgasms is not essential for her reproductive success
    Given that and how convoluted female sexually is, evolution probably didn’t spend much effort hard wiring the lady orgasm like it did for men.

    Women live in their own head and emotions more than the physical world plus it still feels good

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  82. Tarnished says:

    Our lack of understanding doesn’t change reality

    Truth.

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  83. Farm Boy says:

    I hope the bear is doing fine also

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  84. thedeti says:

    >so it should be obvious that a man wouldn’t desire a partner who views him as nothing more than a warm dildo.

    If all she wants is sex and all I want is sex, and all I’m putting out is sex, then I don’t care how she sees me.

    It’s pretty clear that there are lots of men out there who are little more than warm dildos for their sex partners, and they’re perfectly fine with that. It’s pretty clear that those men are not only warm dildos, they are very attractive support systems for those warm dildos. Those women have absolutely NO problem feeling good about using those men as dildos; and those men don’t mind being dildos.

    There’s no problem there.

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  85. thedeti says:

    im with Ton on the issue of female orgasms. If she’s not getting off during sex, she needs to speak up and say “this is what I want/need”. Her lack of orgasms is on her, not me. Her lack of enjoyment of sex is on her, not me.

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  86. Yoda says:


    Our lack of understanding doesn’t change reality

    SJWs make their own reality they do.
    Everyone else for this reality they do pay

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  87. Yoda says:

    Like I’ve said before, I wouldn’t have sex if I wasn’t 100% guaranteed to reach the finale

    How know this beforehand you do?

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  88. Tarnished says:

    The female orgasms is not essential for her reproductive success

    Well, it kinda is, kinda isn’t.
    Directly? No.
    Indirectly? Yes.
    Since we all start out from the same semi-sexless body type as a fetus, the parts required for male ejaculation are the same parts that give women orgasms. So if women didn’t have orgasms/the potential ability to orgasm, reproductive success for either sex would be very difficult for our species.

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  89. Tarnished says:

    How know this beforehand you do?

    Lol. How did you?

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  90. For me at least the big O is still somewhat a mystery what exactly makes it happen. It isn’t like there is a “thing” that makes it happen, or a technique. Sometimes it happens easily, sometimes with effort, sometimes not at all despite all the right buttons being pushed. I think hormones play a big part, as does mental state. For a long time I had hang ups that prevented it that I have since worked through. I’d bet a lot of women who have trouble in this area have hang ups that are preventing her from letting go enough to climax more than it’s anything about the man’s technique.

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  91. The hang ups were of the “good girls don’t” type nature…

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  92. Yoda says:

    Lol. How did you?

    One may care, but required it is not.
    Typically a physical indicator of up or down there is

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  93. Cill says:

    sometimes not at all despite all the right buttons being pushed

    … when the clock is wound up, but will not tick, eh?

    Women like to lie on top of me, although there’s nothing mattressy about me at all.
    They like my heart beat and breathing. They end up touching and exploring and it always leads to arousal in her, and sex. It might work for others out there. I’d be interested to know, actually.

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  94. Yoda says:

    Tarn shows up and much revealing there is

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  95. Tarnished says:

    There’s no problem there.

    …really?
    Even if she’s a bitch like BV describes above who gets herself off but then doesn’t take care of you? Ok.

    I’m with Ton on the issue of female orgasms. If she’s not getting off during sex, she needs to speak up and say “this is what I want/need”.

    See, I’d agree with that as well. If your partner is doing X but Y is what gets you off, you need to tell them. That’s just common sense.

    What I disagree with is when your partner tells you that X is what helps them finish, but you refuse to do so and don’t give a damn about their pleasure.

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  96. Tarnished says:

    Typically a physical indicator of up or down there is

    Well, same here.
    All the physical indicators were present and fully operational in my solo runs, so I had no reason to not assume they would perform as such with another person included.

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  97. SFC Ton says:

    Being overly concerned with her orgasms dries up the joy canal as does any overdose of beta/ caring behavior

    It rarely pays to show much concern for any woman’s needs, regardless of the need. Which probably sums up 80% of the red pill advice.

    So if a man needs to error, do so on the not giving a damn side of the equation and one way to keep her wet and coming back for more is a healthy dose of she is there for your enjoyment and not the other way round

    I am sure comments like that are why Spawny called me dark, but there is no doubt it’s effective. Women get off of the Dom/sub dynamic even when there isn’t any overt bdsm actives/ theme

    The big fantasy for women in house wife porn is those semi rape scenes ; not attentive and caring lovers

    Right? Wrong? Fuck that, how about effective?

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  98. Tarnished says:

    It isn’t like there is a “thing” that makes it happen, or a technique.

    Huh. No “just keep pushing this button for a few minutes”? 😉

    Sometimes it happens easily, sometimes with effort, sometimes not at all despite all the right buttons being pushed.

    That sounds extremely frustrating. I’m sorry, Bloom. 😦

    Btw, I am not trying to make fun of or disregard females who have difficulty with this subject. They definitely have my sympathy and I can appreciate that their brains work differently.

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  99. Spawny Get says:

    The future… fucking over scheming cunts with AI. Looks great until the scheming cunts can use AIs to talk to our AIs.

    This is brilliant – a counter to telemarketers – a collection of recordings known as “Lenny” has been installed on an Asterisk PBX as a telemarketers’ “Turing Test”.

    http://www.going-postal.net/2016/08/the-anti-british-broadcasting-collective-part-one.html#comment-2832507206

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  100. Spawny Get says:

    Although come to think of it, the babbling of the AI being accepted by the scheming gits as genuine confirms that in their experience their targets (vis us) are babbling idiots.
    😦

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  101. Cill says:

    That rip-off merchant put up with old “Lenny” for 40 minutes. Hard to believe.

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  102. Tarnished says:

    The big fantasy for women in house wife porn is those semi rape scenes; not attentive and caring lovers

    Gonna file this under the category of Don’t Understand also.
    I enjoy bdsm, and can switch between the 2 roles pretty well…but damn. Some of these books are just frickin hardcore. I get that they’re fantasies and therefore safe, but still don’t really get it, especially since most of them never feature any aftercare or anything. :/

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  103. Tarnished says:

    Tarn shows up and much revealing there is

    It’s my superpower.

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  104. Cill says:

    Women and Semi Rape fantasy: I can’t identify with it either. I won’t be physically forced to do anything. You Tarn, with your male mind, will have the same inability to identify with it. However a lot of women are into it. The difference between male and female minds is great.

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  105. Tarn it actually isn’t frustrating at all I still enjoy things either way and I don’t really focus on it all that much!

    Ton is more right than most women would admit…

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  106. Sumo says:

    I won’t be physically forced to do anything.

    I doubt that any chick would try that with you. Or Ton, or me, or any man with a similar disposition. I would hypothesize that the wimminfolk would just be grateful (for lack of a better term) to be taking a ride on the train, so to speak. 😉

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  107. BuenaVista says:

    If a woman says ‘she gives it away for free’, she’s saying that it’s for sale. At that point the real questions are a) How much? And b) Is it worth it? This is a line of thought that is contemptible if the subject is male. It should be for females as well. Its heartwarming that NAWALT.

    TON is correct: highly sexual women are bored by the highly attentive man. Good luck getting them to admit it.

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  108. BuenaVista says:

    Fortunately, we have the non experience of a woman or two offering ‘I’m not like that!’. Let’s generalize from there and close discussion, yes?

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  109. Tarnished says:

    It might work for others out there. I’d be interested to know, actually.

    I can’t sleep in the same bed as Seamus for long without just, idk, drowning in his awesome scent. Maybe this is what’s happening to said women?

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  110. Yoda says:

    it turns out that NBC feels no shame at all about the emotionalizing — and even nationalizing — of the games. If NBC Olympics Chief Marketing Officer John Miler is to be believed they’re full speed ahead with this approach: “The people who watch the Olympics are not particularly sports fans,” Miller said recently. “More women watch the Games than men, and for the women, they’re less interested in the result and more interested in the journey. It’s sort of like the ultimate reality show and mini-series wrapped into one. And to tell the truth, it has been the complaint of a few sports writers. It has not been the complaint of the vast viewing public.”

    Yeah, well the “vast viewing public” may be getting sick of it. “The opening ceremony for the 2016 Rio Olympics and the first few days of competition have so far, seen a sizable drop in TV audiences compared to the 2012 Summer Games in London,” according to the Wall Street Journal.

    http://heatst.com/entertainment/olympics-coverage-is-terrible-these-days/

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  111. Flirting w TMI here, but Ton is also correct that the more a guy obsesses or feels you HAVE to have an orgasm or it somehow means he’s not good in bed, it’s a total turn off. Icky icky. Very insecure. Not that a guy shouldn’t care about being good or try to but some things are better show not tell. If it doesn’t happen, it’s not a big deal so don’t make it into one would be my advice.

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  112. Unless you are w Tarn! 🙂

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  113. Cill says:

    NBC has turned its prime time Olympic coverage into just another soppily sentimental and preachily politically correct reality show for the women viewers who now outnumber the men… NBC Olympics Chief Marketing Officer John Miler is… full speed ahead with this approach.

    Meanwhile there has been a sizable drop in TV audiences compared to the 2012 Summer Games… and the decline is in the male audience. The world for women is one big yawn for men.

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  114. SFC Ton says:

    The problem is guys take the no lady O personally. Which as long as he is relatively healthy and experienced he should not. But it’s easy for him to do so with a rather average partner count and never banging a chick who thought he was an alpha/ truly into him

    Typical guys don’t know the difference between her just giving it up and her surrendering to him and her lust

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  115. Exactly, when a guy is putting pressure for the O bc of his ego it’s just yucky. That’s why girls fake it, just to soothe his ego and get it over w. which helps nobody really nor improves things. Sad really. Better to live in the moment. Things can be smoking hot even w/o the O. Quality not quantity… Other times she’ll have a triple hitter w not much effort if the hormones are right (or more.) it’s like a Yeti, nobody really knows but here and there they emerge! Lol. Mystical. Just appreciate the sightings!

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  116. That seems random spawny! Lol. I don’t get it…

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  117. Spawny Get says:

    Bloom, just random stuff as I come across it

    Also

    https://mobile.twitter.com/metoffice/status/763671690014494725

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  118. And btw I didn’t mean that as any slam on you Tarn. If you need the O every time to feel it was good, so be it! 🙂 O’s are good, I would agree!

    Ok shhhhhh….

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  119. I am sitting in a pub waiting to pick up something at a shop next door and there is a very loud, fat, annoying gal sitting w a much (15+ years) younger buff guy and he is stroking her leg. Eeewwww. I wonder if she’s rich?

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  120. SFC Ton says:

    I am damn near scary good with women, when I care to be but it’s OK, I promise never to use my super powers for good

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  121. SFC Ton says:

    Bloom he is a beta with no sense of self worth

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  122. Ame says:

    “I am damn near scary good with women, when I care to be but it’s OK, I promise never to use my super powers for good”

    lol! if we ever see such behavior, we’ll know you’ve been taken over by an alien life form and have yet to kill that SOB inhabiting your body! we might even just pull up a chair and watch b/c we know you will take him out.

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  123. Tarnished says:

    If you need the O every time to feel it was good, so be it!

    TMI TMI TMI!

    I don’t need an O to think of the sex as good, Bloom. I’ve had quite excellent foreplay that didn’t get me to the finish line, as well as full on PiV that didn’t.

    But if I don’t O at least once during *some* unspecified time of the act, then it hurts. And not good pain, like spankings or biting produce…It’s a harsh, unrelenting, painful pressure in my entire inner pelvis that lasts for about an hour or until I have an O. I think it’s a vascular issue similar to “blue balls”. Blue clit, maybe? But yeah. I’m not looking to experience true pain when it can easily be prevented.

    Unless you are w Tarn!

    Nah. I’m pretty in control of my own Os, so he doesn’t actually *have* to do anything. It’s just that much more fun, caring, and sexy that he does 99% of the time.❤ But sometimes I like to just treat him, and take care of my O myself.

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  124. Tarnished says:

    That’s not an uncommon occurance around my neck of the woods, Bloom. 😦

    Even if a guy is a chubby-chaser, I don’t get going after a woman who has the personality of a cactus…

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    Gee, I thought Tarn was going to overshare, but look how it was just avoided at the last minute there

    Goodnight

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  126. Cill says:

    If I don’t get my rocks off at least once a day I will explode. O
    O OMG
    Fuck

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  127. Yoda says:

    A new post there is

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  128. Farm Boy says:

    It is good that there is a new thread. This thread was about to converge into an oversharing singularity.

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  129. Moi says:

    Is it actually N, or is it closer to Time/N ? Or Reasons for N+1/N ? I think the dynamics of what caused the N+1s, is probably more relevant than the simple number.

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  130. Tarnished says:

    I tend to think so too, Moi.
    For example, Seamus had 12 partners prior to myself, but every one was someone he either dated longterm (over 2 years) or knew from his social group (his 1 ONS was both a classmate and a close acquaintance). Knowing that he cared about each of these people makes his past more favorable in my eyes than if he was a player who simply picked up random, unknown women for sex.

    I am of the belief that the reason behind the N is a factor worth looking into.

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  131. […] Deti stated, […]

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