Whipping Boy


 

From Breitbart,

Melissa McCarthy, who plays Abby Yates in the film, quipped back at Kimmel that “what these guys don’t say when they’re typing is that their moms are like ‘get upstairs and take out the garbage! You’re forty five years old

And then there is this,

Washington Post columnist Kristen Page-Kirby has a new insult to try out. In her review of the film, she wrote that “’Ghostbusters’ is pretty funny and anyone who says otherwise is a virgin loser who lives in his mom’s basement.”

But, of course.  This cliche is the feminist’s go to.  In fact, it the basis for the villain in the new Ghostbusters. Nerdly, geeky, “socially challenged” guys are a favorite punching bag.  Especially ones that live in Mom’s basement (and why just Mom, where is Dad?).  So why is this.  Like so many social issues, there are many facets.  Here is an attempt to list them.

I. They should be out there making money, paying taxes, and if they get their shit together, become beta-bucks candidates.

II. Their social skills are poor, so they make a good target that really can’t fight back well.  Of course, they never really had a chance to develop their social skills, as they were probably ostracized from an early age.  Compare that to girls, and nowadays even fat ones, who are showered with esteem and adulation.

III. People need other people to be below them in order for themselves to feel more esteem.  Who better to place at the bottom of the totem pole?

IV. Women are the gateway to sex just via the virtue of being born with a vagina (the law says so).  It feels good to wield this power over a group of sex-starved men.  One wonders if they are sadists…

In the olden days, shaming might have worked on these fellas.  However, today, they are somewhat large numbers.  Not just the guys living in the proverbial basement, but men who work the bare amount to survive and exist with their hobbies (e.g. video games, fishing).  With numbers, comes a form of legitimacy.  It will be interesting to see what the future holds.

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195 comments on “Whipping Boy
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    They are welcome to say anything they want. Just don’t cry when beta bucks provisioning doesn’t happen. WE got the message in high school. We got the message in college. We got the message all the way into our thirties. After that long, you want to change your mind?
    Last summer, the numbers came out for marriage rates for 20-34 year olds. Seventy percent were single. Overall, about fifty percent of adults were married.
    Ladies, you reap what you sow.

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  2. Yoda says:

    The purpose of a whipping boy was to receive the punishment that was assigned to the young prince for general misbehavior. Whipping boys were created to satisfy the idea of the Divine Right of Kings, which states that God appoints the monarchy and that the prince would be an extension upon that lineage, thus no one but the king would be worthy of punishing the prince. The idea that no one is worthy of punishing this future king would create considerable problems for the hired tutors and court servants that might find the need to punish the young prince while the king is away.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_boy

    Pay for the sins of feminists these fellas do.
    Divine rights the women do have

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  3. Yoda says:

    Empowering this is,

    Buying a first bra has long been considered a rite of passage for young women. These days, however, it’s the ditching of the undergarment (or wearing wire-free versions) that’s empowering female Millennials.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2016/07/19/braless-millenials-bralette/87111292/

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  4. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    To put a finer point on the concept of a Whipping Boy, he stood in for the Prince when he erred or gave offense. Part of this was to impress upon the Prince that someone innocent will pay for his errors and offenses. It was an object lesson in empathy.

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  5. Tarnished says:

    Buying a first bra has long been considered a rite of passage for young women.

    Since when…?
    It’s just another piece of excess clothing you have to wear now. Not something important.

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  6. Yoda says:

    Moe’s Mum a “free swinger” she is

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I though only “athletic” girls could do without.

    Getting back to the original post, collectively girls have done a terrible job making friends with boys who would be their husbands. That is taking feminist spite a little far. They are cutting their own throats.
    NAWALT

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  8. Ame says:

    “III. People need other people to be below them in order for themselves to feel more esteem. Who better to place at the bottom of the totem pole?”

    this gets old.

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  9. Tarnished says:

    People need other people to be below them in order for themselves to feel more esteem.

    Hardly. Esteem comes from personal accomplishments and succeeding at one’s goals. There is no need whatsoever to based your self-esteem on the “inferiority” of other people.

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  10. Ame says:

    Tarn – absolutely …. however, these people seem to go for the hollow-inflated version of esteem rather than the honest and real version with integrity.

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  11. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, my cousin twice removed invented the spray-on bra. You filled up a pig’s bladder with a mixture of air and Mrs Moehau Man (my authentic old mum)’s pikelet mix and whacked it with a Kauri Club. It blasted out over the sheila’s swingers and stopped them swinging a bit. It sold quite well for a while but the Moehau Man females decided they like the free swinging lifestyle better.

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  12. Yoda says:

    Eat pikelets off of breasts one could.
    Even have fresh cream on top one might

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  13. Moehau Man says:

    The strawberries are already there I reckon.

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  14. mgtowhorseman says:

    Tarn my sister from another mother…agreed.
    Like my comment on honour a while ago. Integrity and value comes from doing for you regardless of praise. Esteem in the modern sense is the gathering of abolations earned or not.

    Hence the explosion of tumblr/snapchat/instagram selfie princesses and the facebook friends tribes. Esteem given for…???

    The body knows what is earned. The brain cannot think without contemplation. The muscles cannot tone without strain. Character in the face comes from enduring hardship. None of these can be bestowed. they must be earned.

    Hence the soft skinned, fat, unopinionated creature that passes for both sexes today. But they have so many “friends” “liking them.”

    A real friend passes the shovel test. 4 am call
    “Its me, get here, bring a shovel” “On my way” click.

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    What you suggest would be ideal but, there are a lot of people out there that raise themselves up by stepping on others. They should be avoided.

    Moehau Man,
    I was going to guess that you go shirtless, the Moehau Man females do also. I could have been wrong. Females are a little like cats, they like warm.

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  16. Ame says:

    “A real friend passes the shovel test. 4 am call
    “Its me, get here, bring a shovel” “On my way” click.”

    tehehe!

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  17. SFC Ton says:

    Who the fuck is Melissa McCarthy and why should I give a fuck about what she says?

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  18. Cill says:

    Melissa McCarthy, who plays Abby Yates in the film

    I think she’s the fat one. They’re all fat though. She could be any of them. She acts in tragedies by the look of it.

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  19. Yoda says:

    I was going to guess that you go shirtless, the Moehau Man females do also

    Probably the Putin branch of the tribe they are

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  20. Yoda says:

    Ms. McCarthy

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  21. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    The original post hit a nerve with me. They haven’t considered that this shouldn’t be done at all, much less continuously over forty years, without the consequences of a response.

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda! My eyes! Yikes! At least she is not as bad as SheWhoWilNotBeNamed.

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  23. Moehau Man says:

    Me hairy chest is me most striking feature, so why would I wear a shirt.

    Yes there is a Putin tribe. There is also a Pullout tribe, though they are not as common as the Putins.

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  24. Yoda says:

    Bear,

    Guys supposed to take it they are

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  25. Tarnished says:

    I though only “athletic” girls could do without.

    Truth.
    Even though I dislike wearing bras, backaches would be frequent without them. Two of my sisters are A cups, my mother and I are DD, and my other half sister is a B. The first 2 don’t necessarily have to wear brasseries…but then again, they are also size 0 and 2 pants-wise, and barely over 5′. Quite a difference between body types, lol.

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  26. Tarnished says:

    Guys supposed to take it they are

    It is because males are made to believe this, that we have such trouble.

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  27. Yoda says:

    Not quite oversharing it is.
    But on the path it would be

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  28. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Patience has a limit. Boys really like girls, so we have been patient a long time. It is not getting any better

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  29. Tarnished says:

    I was going to guess that you go shirtless, the Moehau Man females do also.

    Women in NY can go topless wherever a man can. Few take advantage of this equality they do.

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  30. SFC Ton says:

    Must be an aerial photo because that’s one huge bitch!

    Like

  31. Moehau Man says:

    Moehau Man females go topless. They get no catcalls or anything serious like that. Just a few tweaks, or strokes, and a game of leapfrog if they’re lucky.

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    That is quite a difference. Different fathers? We can be certain about maternity.

    Ton,
    I think that she gets her Ben and Jerry’s by the case, not the pint.

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  33. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can’t hold off any longer. We need to see this to remind ourselves that healthy women have waists.

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  34. Cill says:

    “The body” beats her for waist.

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  35. Cill says:

    I going to head deep down into my subterranean lair and come back up with a crate of CDDU (Cill’s Draught Down Under). Back in a tick.

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  36. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Oh, my! Now, you have reminded me of Molly and she can’t make burrito emoticons anymore. *sniff*

    Like

  37. Tarnished says:

    That is quite a difference. Different fathers?

    Fathers and mothers.
    A-cup sisters are mom and stepfather.
    B-cup sister is from dad and ex-stepmother.
    I’m my mom and dad, obviously.
    Also have half brothers.

    Mom has been married twice, dad’s been married 3x + had an out-of-wedlock son. Any wonder why I have almost no faith in marriage?

    Boys really like girls, so we have been patient a long time.

    Difference there is between being patient or being a doormat.

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  38. Cill says:

    Difference there is between being patient or being a doormat.
    Yep.

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  39. Choicy says:

    Cillo it’s a pity I’m 3000 miles away or I’d go over there and join you in glass of “Cill’s”, mate. I’d down a can of Fosters right here and now if it wasn’t still morning time in the great southern land. Have a Cill’s for me mate.

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  40. Yoda says:

    Also have half brothers.

    What size codpiece wear they do?

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  41. Cill says:

    Will do Choicy, you thirsty Aussie bastard.

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    And while you were a teenager, you stood in for your mother to raise them all?
    No wonder you have no confidence in marriage.

    Maybe the boys were always hoping for a revert to normal. It’s not going to happen with so much perceived advantage.But, boys still really like girls.

    Like

  43. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    They get theirs direct from Moehau Man’s Mum and she respects confidences. Where they get the paua shells to pay for it is anyone’s guess.

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  44. Choicy says:

    The only time I’m an alcie is when I’m lead astray by you mate.

    Liked by 1 person

  45. Yoda says:

    Any wonder why I have almost no faith in marriage?

    Liz provides alternate example she does

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  46. Cill says:

    Fair enough Choice-o. I’m having a glass for you now, mate.

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  47. Yoda says:

    Moe drink beer he does?

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  48. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    That is not a good sign. She already has the nomination sewn up.

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  49. Choicy says:

    Gday Yoda mate. I read in spawny’s where Moe said he drinks bleached jelly fish fermented with wild yeast mate. It would not be good to drink for body or soul mate.

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  50. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Moe may not drink bee if he is Neolithic. Mike Rowe had a wonderful documentary speculating that the reason we took to agriculture to grow grains was not to make bread but brew beer. There are people also arguing that our digestive systems are not designed to take in grain that is not fermented.

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  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Choicy,
    That Moe has one tough GI tract!

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  52. Cill says:

    You memory is better than mine, Choicy. I keep forgetting what Moe has and has not said.

    Your CDDU is tasting good mate, making the risk of a tangle-up of me and Moe all the greater.

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  53. Choicy says:

    GDay Fuzzie. Yeah mate Moe is tough as a Mallee bull, one of a kind, mate. The Good Lord broke the mould after he created that joker.

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  54. Choicy says:

    I don’t think the Good Lord created Moe in his own image, my mates.

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  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There is nobody quite like Moe. G”day to you, Choicy! It is a good thing to stay away from beer until you are done for the day. Back when I drank, I tried that once. Going back to work was a misery.

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  56. Choicy says:

    Fuzzie I need to keep my wits about me mate. Creatures great and small will kill me if I put a foot wrong. NAture doesn’t make exceptions for a joker with a belly full of Fosters in a merry condition. This digger doesn’t drink on the job mate.

    Speaking of which I have to drag my bones back to work. Have a good night my mates.

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  57. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    To distract from the Presidential election, things are coming to a head at Fox News.The man accused of sexual harassment is seventy six and allegations are starting to mount up. Something like fifty current newscasters have threatened to walk off if the company caves to the accusers, most of them women, one being Judge Jeanine Pirro. Here is HuffPo’s take from the feminist side.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ailes-sexual-harassment_us_579145bde4b0fc06ec5c6a6f?section=
    It has to be hard to prove a negative, especially when thai stuff goes back a decade but, at a guess, women who have been let go are looking for a big payday. The ones currently working are protesting because this will come out of their pay, not from the company’s bottom line.

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  58. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Choicy,
    We are fortunate here in North America. Stay safe.

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  59. Cill says:

    Super Rugby quarter final tonight, Brumbies vs Highlanders. 4 of the 5 NZ teams made it to the quarter finals.
    All the NZ teams deserved on points to be playing their quarter finals at home. Home games are a big advantage. Two of them will be playing overseas though, because the rules don’t allow multiple quarter finals in one country. So a couple of those teams will have home games they don’t deserve. We’ll see.

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  60. If women are going to criticize men for being “non-masculine” who do they have to blame but the feminist 40 + year anti-masculine agenda!?!? Men didn’t want this, women did! Men adjusted best they could or dropped out. And who could blame them?

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    LoadzaLolz

    Suckhard Chunk loses his shit on TV

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  62. Tarnished says:

    Liz provides alternate example she does

    She does. It’s good that she and Mike know how to work together to *keep* it together. Perhaps if I saw any families like hers growing up, I’d be marriage-minded.

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  63. Tarnished says:

    What size codpiece wear they do?

    No idea. Coming from separate sets of mothers and fathers, the only connection being myself, I imagine very different ones.

    And while you were a teenager, you stood in for your mother to raise them all?

    Well, only the siblings I lived with 80% of the time. The siblings I saw during the weekend when we all had visitation with our shared father lived with their own moms. And it wasn’t like she was out partying or being irresponsible…she was at work, same as my stepfather.

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  64. Sumo says:

    Am I the only who is focused on the fact that Tarn is sporting double D’s? 😀

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  65. Tarnished says:

    More trouble than they’re worth, Sumo.
    At least in middle school they were C’s, so I could still bandage them up and retain my ability to, y’know, breathe. In high school + nowadays, not so much. 😦

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  66. Tarnished says:

    Agreed, Bloom!

    Fems are so confusing. First they say masculinity is “toxic”, then they try to get non-trans women to reject femininity and become masculine. It’s nonsensical.

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  67. Tarnished says:

    A real friend passes the shovel test. 4 am call
    “Its me, get here, bring a shovel” “On my way” click.

    Lol!
    Never had a friend ask me to bring a shovel, but I have had to wake up to pick up a few drunk asses and get them home at 2am. Or lend money. That happens a lot since I’m single/no dependents. $800 here, $250 there…I swear, it’s ridiculous. My grandparents were Jewish, not me.
    It’s weird to watch your spending and eat cheap for a week so your friend can pay *their* rent. Ha!

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  68. What no discussion of the acceptance speech? Here’s the transcript. I liked it! Got a little misty eyed in places even…

    http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/12253426/donald-trump-acceptance-speech-transcript-republican-nomination-transcript

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  69. SFC Ton says:

    Thought it was OK, tad bit to progressive for me, but about what I expected

    Well delivered and we’ll written etc but time will tell

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  70. Yoda says:

    Trump has issues he does.
    Hillary “all issues” she would be

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am just glad that they got through the whole convention without a riot. Let’s see if the Democrats can do as well.

    As for that video link with Alex Jones, that was crazy! Life was simpler for newsmen back in the days before they had to put a political slant on it.

    Bloom,
    After four decades of that nonsense, boys have gotten used to it. It’s tough to play a game when they keep moving the goalposts.

    Tarn,
    When you were a little kid, I’ll bet that you drank all your milk. Boys like them and it works at a conscious and subconscious level.

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  72. Yoda says:

    Holing up and mostly ignoring the world a reasonable response it is?

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  73. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    You just made me realize why the press likes Hillary so much. Drama. She will give it to them in spades while they write reams of copy.
    Has anyone stopped to consider that this may not be a good thing?

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  74. Yoda says:

    With girls, anything that leads to acceptance not a big fuss it does cause.
    Fat acceptance an example it would be.
    Not so with the boys this is

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  75. Yoda says:

    Trump good drama also he is.
    Just getting started attacking Hillary he would be

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  76. Yoda says:

    At least in middle school they were C’s

    One more step toward oversharing this is

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  77. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Everybody is taking in the wrong refugees.

    This is beyond disgraceful.

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  78. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Because of her oversharing, she will always arrive at any destination first.

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  79. Tarnished says:

    Women are the gateway to sex just via the virtue of being born with a vagina (the law says so).

    It’s difficult to consider oneself the “gateway” to sex when:
    1. Sex can still be forced on you, just as sex can be forced on a male, and
    2. One’s male significant other acts as the “gatekeeper” instead, and you have to respect their desires too. Not saying the reverse isn’t more typically true.

    It feels good to wield this power over a group of sex-starved men.

    Ew. No. That’s cruel.

    Also, it’s mind-boggling to think that, simply by having a clit rather than a penis, that one has power. Again, I’m not denying the reality of it being seen this way by both sexes…It is simply weird to think that one’s random genital type is so desired over the other (in general).

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  80. Tarn’s one D up on me but I am happy w my lot. Lol. Not so good for running, but I don’t much like running, anyway…

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  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    Then, you will be close behind.
    I am so glad that we are confident enough to go back to oversharing.
    This is a strange topic for bears. What distinguishes mammals form other animals is that they have breasts to nurse their young but, only humans have breasts whether or not they are nursing. Nature had to have a reason.

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  82. Tarnished says:

    It might be due to our blatant bipedalism, Fuzzie. Even amongst the other Great Apes, we are the only ones who stand up straight as a default.

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  83. Tarnished says:

    Tarn’s one D up on me but I am happy w my lot. Lol.

    I’d trade if I could, Bloom!

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  84. Tarnished says:

    Holing up and mostly ignoring the world a reasonable response it is?

    Works for me a lot of the time.

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  85. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bears can do the bipedal thing but, not as a matter of course. I don’t think that is it.Human female sexuality is different from any other species and it must be for a reason.

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  86. Tarnished says:

    I think the reason is because it’s a non-destructive physical feature that was seen as more attractive by males of homo erectus and thus selected for at a higher rate.

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  87. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can see that. Attraction does operate beneath conscious thought.

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  88. Spawny Get says:

    ‘homo erectus’
    filth!

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  89. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Be careful, Spawny. Moe may take issue with that if he takes it the wrong way. 🙂

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  90. Sumo says:

    More trouble than they’re worth

    Lies & heresy.

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  91. Tarnished says:

    Human female sexuality is different from any other species and it must be for a reason.

    Just because I’m curious…which parts in particular? Human males also have some oddities regarding their sexuality. For example, homo sapiens are the only primate other (than the spider monkey) who lack a penile bone. Some scientists think this is also a case of sexual selection, this time by female humans, since the need for “hydraulics” for male reproduction would make it easier to see if a mate has erectile disfunction.

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  92. Tarnished says:

    Sumo,

    I believe the saying is Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics. 😉

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  93. Tarnished says:

    Regardless, I used to seriously consider getting rid of them when I was younger.

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  94. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn! I am not going to “like” that!

    To begin, ovulation is covert, along with so much else.

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  95. Sumo says:

    Regardless, I used to seriously consider getting rid of them when I was younger.

    Again with the heresy.

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  96. Tarnished says:

    Again with the heresy

    *sigh*
    Well, you’re probably going to brand me a blasphemer for this next statement, but not everyone born with the genetics for being breastily endowed *wants* tits.

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  97. Sumo says:

    -_-

    You’re dead to me, Tarn.

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  98. Tarnished says:

    Tarn! I am not going to “like” that!

    Which comment?
    My desire to have a boob-ectomy, or the fact that “boners” are inappropriately named?

    To begin, ovulation is covert, along with so much else.

    I think it’s only *consciously* covert, as a study by a university in New Mexico found that strippers get almost double the normal amount of tips when they are ovulating than when in a relaxed state of her cycle. Conversely, they got something like 30% lower than normal tips while on their period.

    Also…a woman’s sense of smell generally shoots through the fucking roof when ovulating. Makes us far more likely to be turned on by our mate’s scent (or a passing male if the woman is single). Unfortunately, it also means *everything* has a really strong smell. It’s borderline ridiculous how true this is, speaking from personal experience.

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  99. Tarnished says:

    Fair enough, Sumo. 🙂

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  100. Humans are also unique in that they mate outside of the ovulation window, as well. Humans are as far as I know the only mammal to have “recreational” not just “reproductive” sex. Not sure shy but I consider it am advance. If sex always equalled pregnancy, that would kinda suck from a female perspective!

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  101. Yes ovulation tells are almost subconscious, studies show women dress more suggestively, wear brighter makeup, etc. but may not even be conscious of it themselves. I’d also argue women aren’t aware of hypergamy, afbb, etc although they do it anyway. Female sexuality is a mystery even to females, for the most part. I see women do these things all the time but few could articulate “why” or do it deliberately. Not that it makes it any better but what I am trying to say is most women are clueless as to why they make the choices they do. Maybe if they understood why, they would make better choices? Hard to say…

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  102. Cill says:

    Dolphins have prolonged recreational sex and manifestly enjoy it. They also have gang rapes. I haven’t seen killer whales do this although from watching from above I suspect that they do.

    Women smell different when they are ovulating and come onto men in an intimate way.

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  103. SFC Ton says:

    I can smell women in heat. And tell when they are pregnant way before they are showing and want not

    Visually I also pick up IOI’s like a super computer, but I am a trained observer so no idea if that is a natural ability, completely learned or a natural talent honed by training and use.

    Wonder how much that plays into the alpha beta thing. Are betas unable to pick up on subtle to not so subtle clues? Well even if so, clearly there is more to the beta alpha thing

    Two nights back I watched this beta miss every obvious IOI in the book. The girl was literally biting her finger and doing the shy smile/ look away thing to him for longer then I care to recall. So I gave her $5 and sent her to the jukebox and schooled up the beta real quick. Thug hugged him and told him to do better or. Otherwise don’t come back to my bar

    He left with her….. so happy ending, right? But it got me back to thinking along those how to be alpha vs what makes a man beta thing.

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  104. SFC Ton says:

    Blooms second comment…..
    Legit

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  105. Ame says:

    i’ve always thought that anyone could figure out my cycle if they just clued in a tiny bit. so *fun* having 3 cycling females in our house! ha!

    sometimes my husband still asks, “Why did she ___” … and i just look at him like, “I can’t even believe you’re still asking that question of a TEENAGE FEMALE!!!” LOL! there is NO logical answer to “why” with a teenage female 🙂

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  106. Yoda says:

    Write sequel to Ms. Sandberg’s “Lean In” Tarn might.
    Called “Lean Forward” it would be

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  107. Cill says:

    Most men don’t seem to pick up on the “come on” and ovulation signs. To me they are obvious, probably because I grew up knowing so many girls and women.

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  108. Yoda says:


    TV and movie star Leslie Jones went on “Late Night with Seth Meyers” last night and bragged about getting Twitter users — including alt-right firebrand Milo Yiannopoulos — banned from social network after a private meeting with CEO Jack Dorsey.

    http://heatst.com/entertainment/leslie-jones-brags-on-tv-about-getting-twitter-users-like-milo-yiannopoulos-banned/

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  109. Yoda says:

    Big mouth she has

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  110. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    No “likes” for considered mastectomy.

    Ton may be on to something with his observation. The difference between alpha and beta may be knowledge, confidence, and application of the previous two. Boys are very much on their own and they are floundering.

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  111. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Not only a big mouth but she is indiscreet. It’s hard to comprehend how the CEO of Twitter chose to keep her and dump Milo. She is going to cause more trouble.
    In the meanwhile, we need an alternate for Twitter.

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  112. SFC Ton says:

    No doubt there is a genetic factor on the alpha vs beta. Our personalities are mostly inherited but given the soical climate most boys have the potential alpha crushed early and often

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  113. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    That study on stripper’s tips is a good point. Money talks.

    Bloom,
    If they are unaware that their behavior causes harm, they are still responsible.

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  114. Yoda says:

    If they are unaware that their behavior causes harm, they are still responsible.

    If Hillary elected she is,
    no longer true this would be

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  115. Ame says:

    “Two nights back I watched this beta miss every obvious IOI in the book. The girl was literally biting her finger and doing the shy smile/ look away thing to him for longer then I care to recall. So I gave her $5 and sent her to the jukebox and schooled up the beta real quick. Thug hugged him and told him to do better or. Otherwise don’t come back to my bar”

    Ton – not that you probably care much b/c i’m, you know, a female … but this just raised you ten points in my book 🙂

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  116. There likely is something to the alpha beta thing, or maybe it’s the clued in vs not thing? Some guys, and yes they are usually also the guys who have luck w the ladies, seem to be very clued in to the IOIs and/or even just approach in a “break the ice” sort of way before a gal even notices them. And guys who approach, especially in a non obvious and non awkward way, connect w women much more successfully. Which came first, chicken or the egg? hard to say…

    As I commented long ago on j4g, most women don’t really notice a guy until she notices him noticing her. W/O an approach it goes nowhere. It may still go nowhere but had that guy not approached the girl likely would not have approached him even tho she was interested. (Now interested in what is another question, was it BB perhaps?)

    And yes then there are guys like Ton describes who don’t even notice a woman actively noticing them. They are really frustrating! lol. I knew a guy like that in college, amazingly good looking and also super ideal form thanks to all his track and field/shot put/athletics. But when it came to women? Clueless. So many gals had mad crushes on him and he was literally oblivious. I am not even sure what a gal could have done to get his attention! He was focused on his sports and seemingly had a one track mind.

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  117. Yoda says:

    Look closely at whole screen capture you should

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  118. SFC Ton says:

    Stripper tips; we know women change their body language when in heat.
    Would explain the stripper tips

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  119. Agreed fuzzie, aware or not it’s not cool. But it also is what it is. It’s the female operating system, stronger and more feral/ruthless in some than others depending on the gal’s morals and character. Wishing women operated like men is sort of like wishing cats would just be more like dogs. Cats are cats. Whether cats are evil or not for being cats? I suppose one could argue dogs are more loyal, true, unconditional etc. but cats are cats. They couldn’t be dogs if they tried. However some cats are more dog-like than others. On some level tho they still are and will always be cats.

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  120. Doom and gloom doesn’t match reality, eh? Hummm…

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  121. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Those two headlines do seem to be in conflict.
    Do you think that people in Europe are mad enough to support sending their military into Syria and Iraq not to seek the surrender of ISIS but its annihilation?

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  122. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It would appear that Toni Airaksinen is observant. That is unusual.

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  123. I have read stripper tips increase when they are on their period and that the experienced girls discovered this and would still dance rather than take time off (not sure where i saw this, probably some random stripper blog I somehow ran across when awake w insomnia? I read the oddest stuff, kinda anthropological I guess? Or just curious about worlds I would never myself experience bc I can’t think of anything I’d rather LESS do than dance naked for a living. Oh except be a call girl, especially not a lot lizard style one. Yuck. But some gals do…

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  124. I am overly modest, hence public nudity is like some nightmare scenario in my mind! Lol!

    Ah Ton, where were you when I was in college? Lol. There was a special forces guy I knew like that too. I had a mad mad crush on him but he also was like this zen monk guy, quiet, shy, didn’t talk to women, dedicated to one thing – his job. Oh but he was so lovely… Sigh! I tend to fall for that type, and then of course good luck trying to break thru that! Lol. Seems like a lifetime ago now…

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  125. Otoh, guys like you Ton, I immediately reject even when they approach w gusto bc I assume they are nothing but heartbreak and trouble! (Nothing personal, just a perhaps false assumption on my part that the ones who approach hard can’t be trusted while the quiet ones could. I may be totally off there but I assume if a guy is TOO confident, he’s a player…the guys who don’t notice women not players.)

    And yes it begs the obvious question of, “and how’s that working for ya?” Pffft…. 🙂

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  126. molly says:

    Bloom said “W/O an approach it goes nowhere”

    It depends on the man? One of the men on this blog gets appraoched a lot by women. I saw them approach him in Australia as well. They approach him all over lol.

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  127. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom
    “How’s that working for ya?”
    Don’t tell me that you are again a free agent?

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  128. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly!!! Burrito, burrito, burrito, 🐻 , roll
    You have said that about Cill before. He is good at escape and evasion.

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  129. Yoda says:

    One of the men on this blog gets appraoched a lot by women.

    Probably Moe you do mean.
    The chest hair effective it is

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  130. Ame says:

    random and unrelated … this guy on another blog had posted up-close pics of eyes, so i thought that’d be cool. so i took some up-close pics of my eyes, and wow. was that telling! i mean, i’m 51, so the wall and i have been good friends for quite awhile now … but up-close is a bit hard to hide the fine lines of life. it was a bit humbling. and it doesn’t look at all like the magnified mirror i use to put on makeup. also, my right eye droops a bit!

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  131. Cill says:

    My mum and aunties did not approach men. In Australia and America women were more forward. NZ women are not very forward (except PPPs).

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  132. Actually I am not a free agent, so I guess it is working for me! Lol!

    And yes he’s a quiet type, too. I am surprised he ever talked to me!

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  133. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    That is a happy thought. Thinking of all of Moehau Man’s admirers. And, they all smell like pickelets.

    Amd,
    I like your avatar. Another close up of an eye would be a little much. It was a while getting used to Cill’s. If you have to change, would you consider animals?

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  134. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    Thank you for making that clear. Confusion is for our opponents.

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  135. Molly I am sure were I to meet Cill irl I too world be madly drawn to his quiet way. Good thing for oceans, or I might embarrass myself as he is too you g for me! Lol

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  136. Yoda says:

    Munich police chief Hubertus Andraes says the suspect in the Munich shooting is an 18-year-old German-Iranian from Munich.

    Andraes said at a news conference that the attacker’s motive was still “fully unclear.”

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/96809ba5c9674a698b0d6e5b9a77382b/latest-agency-police-say-some-dead-munich-shooting

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  137. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    It is just not going to let up. Vox Day speculated the this one may be an actual crazy But, let’s wait for more info.

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  138. mgtowhorseman says:

    Thought experiment.

    Speak max 5 word sentences.

    Latin language was sussinct, precise.

    At work all day today.

    Men got it instinctively.

    Women….Insane!!! Frustrated!!!! Confused!!!

    Teaches controlled responses, thoughtfulness.

    New language…Horsemanish…sibling Yodaish.

    Side benefit…enforces amused mastery.

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  139. Horseman a marriage counselor friend of mine is constantly saying to her female clients, “if you want him to listen and it’s important, say it in five words or less, don’t bury it in a non stop stream of words!” Seemed like good advice!

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  140. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    I don’t doubt that they went crazy. What? Limit speech? Brevity??? Tou’ll be laughing about this for some time to come.

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  141. Yoda says:

    it’s important, say it in five words or less

    Good advice this would be.
    Use it often I do

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  142. Yoda says:

    Horseman’s advice good it is.

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  143. SFC Ton says:

    Success with anything, bitches included, is about a life plan that works 80% of the time, so why would a man give a fuck about the 20%?

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  144. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Somebody is more eloquent than I.

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  145. Yoda says:

    Below is a translation of the incident captured in the video between the alleged shooter and a man on a balcony:

    Man: “You fucking Asshole you…”
    Shooter: “Because of you I [unintelligible]…”
    Balcony Man: “You cunt you. you’re a cunt”
    Shooter: “…and now I have to buy a gun to shoot you”
    Balcony Man: “a gun fuck off your head isn’t on right”
    Shooter and Balcony man shouting at each other
    Balcony Man apparently to people filming: “He’s got a gun here the guy has one”
    Unseen voice: “Shit/Fucking Turks!”
    Balcony Man: “Shit/Fucking Kanacken” (foreigners basically)
    Balcony man to someone else : “EY! HE’S GOT A GUN! He has loaded his gun! Get the cops here!”
    Shooter: “I am German.”
    Balcony Man: “You’re a cunt is what you are”
    Shooter: “Stop filming!”
    Balcony Man: “A cunt is what you are, what the fuck are you doing?”
    Shooter: “Yeah what, I was born here!”
    Balcony Man: “Yeah and what the fuck you think you’re doing???”
    Shooter: “I grew up here in the Hartz 4 (unemployment benefits in Germany) area.
    Balcony Man and Shooter talk at same time, can’t make it out.
    Shooter says something about “Behandlung” which is “treatment” in both medical treatment or just how you treat people,not sure which one he means.
    Balcony Man says something like “Yeah treatment is something for you”
    Shooter: “I haven’t done anything here for [unintelligible]”
    Shooter: “Just shut your fucking face man”
    Balcony Man: “You cunt you”
    Balcony Man: “HEY! HE’S ON THE UPPER FLOOR HERE [unintelligible]”
    Filming man goes into cover, shooter starts firing.
    Balcony man calls him a cunt again.
    Balcony man shouts something at him about “shooting here” and Shooter replies multiple times “Yeah, that’s where you’re right! Yeah you’re right with that!” Yeah you’re right!”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-22/major-police-operation-underway-after-shots-fired-munich-shopping-center-live-feed

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  146. Yoda says:

    Meanwhile, Hartz IV has become a synonym for the class of non-working poor and is used as a prefix in multiple contexts (i.e. low-brow daytime television programmes are called “Hartz IV TV” by critics).

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartz_concept

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  147. Ame says:

    Fuzzie –

    no worries.
    not changing avatar.
    one eye is enough.
    Cill wins.
    was just shocked at the
    stories my eyes tell.
    not the ones I thought they would

    (sorry horseman – had to borrow words from up top!)

    btw – love word games.
    challenging.
    fun!
    till my kids need to
    hear more than five words.
    but by now … momma looks
    go a looong way 🙂

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  148. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    Good! A second eye close up would be a little much. I feel better. BTW, they’re caol “laugh lines” if you’re living right.

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  149. Ame says:

    I do love to laugh 🙂
    but I worry too much.
    worry visible in some pics.
    interesting dose of reality.

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  150. I am wired differently than most it’s true. So what does work on most is a better strategy for sure. I am NOT typical of women, which considering most women today I would kinda consider a good thing! But yeah, modern dating rules,I am waaaay behind the times. I don’t get it lots of the time, tis true.

    Or actually since finding the red pill I am getting it but not in the typical “getting it” sex possie online dating etc. way. I’m getting how NOT to play a losing game.

    Case in point: I recently spent some time w a longtime friend. Before the red pill, gosh over 6 years ago now, I would have loved to date him, maybe even would have married him. But life didnt go that way and we live in different states, both had physical ties to where we were at, etc. etc. Bc of the distance I have had the chance to observe him as a friend go thru several relationships and other big life events. And I have seen that while he’s charming and gets along good w the ladies (too good actually which was the cause of several of his relationship fails when his ltr found out he was more than just flirting…) according to the red pill, he’d be a disastrous pick from a female pov despite bring from a wealthy family, having many advantages bc of that, being zfg charming, etc. He surprised me by springing it on me that after all this time, that he’s decided its time to grow up and settle down and hes figured I was the one. I did not see that coming AT ALL. And thing is, since we met I have grown and learned and now I know what I did not know then, he is not my one. Had we gotten together back then, it would have been very bad for me (and my kids) emotionally etc. and I don’t really see how he or that has really changed. So as nicely as I could, I said while I treasure his friendship (and i truly do, hes a neat guy) I do not feel we would be a good match and besides that I was seeing someone already. He was very confused, and could not seem to wrap his mind around the possibility that I wasn’t jumping at the chance. What I’ve learned tho is I have been in relationships w guys like him and they were always lopsided, and about them not me, and despite my trying hard and being a good partner it still just didnt work. The guy I am w now is not a guy like that and it works really, really well. I guess what I am saying is therulesrevisited.com and j4g and this site and others have taught me so much that when the offer I once hoped would come, did, I was so far past it that it seemed like one of the worst decisions I could possibly make for myself or my kids bc IT WOULD NOT LAST. So “why even go there?” was how I see that offer now. I am probably not expressing this well, but it was a red pill moment. I am sure he’ll find someone (if he hasn’t already) but it won’t be me. That’s what the red pill has taught me. And we’ll both be better off for not going there in the long run.

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  151. Ame says:

    Bloom – it’s amazing what life teaches us if we’re willing to learn. good for you 🙂

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  152. Sumo says:

    Two nights back I watched this beta miss every obvious IOI in the book. The girl was literally biting her finger and doing the shy smile/ look away thing to him for longer then I care to recall. So I gave her $5 and sent her to the jukebox and schooled up the beta real quick. Thug hugged him and told him to do better or. Otherwise don’t come back to my bar

    I call shenanigans on this story. The Ton would not “school a beta”, he would jump in and smash that ass his own damn self.

    Unless she was ugly or a fattie. If so, you probably should have led with that bit.

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  153. molly says:

    Bloom yo!
    Bloom knows “how many beans make five” (old kiwi saying) (wink)
    YO

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  154. Cill says:

    Unless she was ugly or a fattie. If so, you probably should have led with that bit.

    Yeah

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  155. Cill says:

    Do you people ever sleep?

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  156. Sumo says:

    Only when the sun is shining.

    And yes, the vampires learned that one from The Mighty Sumo.

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  157. Cill says:

    Listen to them. The creatures of the night. What sweet music they make.

    [Cill’s mortified self edit “Listen to them. The children of the night. What sweet music they make.”

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  158. Sumo says:

    The Mighty Sumo was not going to embarrass a brother by pointing out that particular typo, but good on ya for correcting yourself, mate. 😀

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  159. Cill says:

    Some call it vigilance. I know better. We are each possessed of an unsleeping malevolence, bro Sumo.

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  160. Cill says:

    May God have mercy on our seriously respective souls

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  161. SFC Ton says:

    LOL The Ton is semi monogamous these days. Just me and the Girls

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  162. SFC Ton says:

    Also wouldn’t bang any of the bitches who work for me or come to the bar. Bad for bidness

    You lose money by chasing women; you never lose women by chasing money

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  163. Yoda says:

    The children of the night.

    Moe plunk you with his Kauri club he will

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  164. Yoda says:

    Germans, who are not used to their government being inept and dishonest, are shocked by all this. Mass violence is a rarity in the country, which prizes order above almost all else, and guns are hard to get. Many are wondering how the Munich shooter got his hands on a pistol.

    Lack of faith in Merkel is spreading. This has not been helped by revelations that the New Year’s Eve rampage in several German cities, above all Cologne, was systematically misrepresented by authorities. While the government was at pains to portray these innocents of sexual assault as “isolated,” leaked police reports have exposed that 1,200 German women were assaulted that night, half of them in Cologne, by 2,000 attackers—many of whom had just arrived in Germany as refugees.

    Fear of Muslims is spreading across Europe. Last week’s Nice truck massacre on Bastille Day, which killed 84 and wounded over 300 others, has caused worry to spread across the continent, not least because the ISIS-inspired Tunisian mass murderer, who naturally shouted “Allahu akbar” while running over innocents on his way to martyrdom, turns out to have planned his rampage for a year. This was no impulsive spree killing. Five Muslim immigrants are in custody, facing charges of conspiring with the murderer to perpetrate the July 14 horror.

    http://observer.com/2016/07/lack-of-faith-in-merkel-spreads-with-bavarias-bloody-week-of-mayhem/

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  165. mgtowhorseman says:

    Malcolm Reynolds
    Walt Longmire
    Benjamin Sisko
    Thomas Magnum (re Ivan)

    Good men all who do what is necessary.

    Kirk is a swashbuckler and “bends” rules.
    Picard is honourable at all times
    Only Sisko is practically ruthless when necessary.

    Merkle and many politicians must now do “bad things”
    to protect their people and in the long run do what is right by them.

    Too bad PC will indirectly be the downfall of the west.
    History will say “they should have done more.”

    Merkle would “negotiate” with the lawman holding River while the Reavers closed in. We need someone to shoot like Malcolm.

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  166. mgtowhorseman says:

    and god forbid what Luke or Rae would do.
    Han maybe. Not sure. a scoundrel sure but to be practically ruthless? Im note sure.

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  167. Yoda says:

    Horseman speaks short sentences not

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  168. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    More Natasha Fatale!!! I think that Boris Badenov can have something to say too. He has to be everybody’s favorite villian.

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  169. Yoda says:

    Natasha kept her boobs she did.
    The world happy for this it is.
    Tarn, lesson here there would be

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  170. Yoda says:

    New post soon there will be.
    Farm Boy just watched the new Star Trek movie he did

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  171. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I would like to know how Natasha could keep her dress up without them.
    Good thing to say about Natasha. For a villian, she is not very evil. She is sweet on and sweet to Boris and also loyal even if he is a foot shorter.

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  172. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I hope that Farm Boy is in a good mood. He due a break after seeing the new Ghostbusters. .

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  173. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  174. Tarnished says:

    Natasha kept her boobs she did.
    The world happy for this it is.
    Tarn, lesson here there would be.

    Yup. The lesson is that Natasha doesn’t have gender dysphoria and would have no reason to remove her feminine attributes in order to pass better as a male.

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  175. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Forgive Yoda but there is a positive side to this. With a black wig and a purple strapless sheath dress, you have a ready made costume. All that would remain would be to work on the lines.
    That should give you the last laugh. The best laugh.

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  176. Cill says:

    If I had boobs I’d molest them constantly.

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  177. Ame says:

    haha! i’ve heard other men say the same thing!

    ___

    grrr to Farm Boy for posting on the new star trek movie so soon. i won’t be reading that or the thread b/c i HATE to know the story and ending before i watch something … and i LOVE the star trek movies!

    and if it continues to be talked about, i’ll have to go see it sooner than later.

    Farm Boy … i love you, but i’m not super thrilled you posted on that so soon! 🙂

    i’ll catch up with y’all on the next post.

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  178. SFC Ton says:

    LOL someone liked me being semi monogamous?

    Not sure how I feel about it myself. I’m happy in my home life but owning a couple of bidness don’t leave much time for chasing ass and the only thing more insane then running a bar is running a trucking company

    I’d like to replace 70% of my truckers with robot’s and all but one on the kitchen staff

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  179. Yoda says:

    Farm Boy … i love you, but i’m not super thrilled you posted on that so soon

    Like Farm Boy also I do.
    Movie reviews posted when movies open they are

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  180. Yoda says:

    I’d like to replace 70% of my truckers with robot’s and all but one on the kitchen staff

    Good help hard to find it is

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  181. SFC Ton says:

    To be fair, I also employ3 mechanics, a guy who overseas the garage and used car lot, a salesman and a couple of waitress who , so far, I don’t want to replace with robot’s.

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  182. Yoda says:

    Democrats hate small businesses they do,

    Another email between DNC national finance director Jordan Kaplan and DNC’s Northern California finance director Erik Stowe has Kaplan coarsely describing a conference call with President Barack Obama on National Small Business Week as related to “small business sh*t.”

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/07/22/hilary-leaks-wikileaks-releases-democratic-national-committee-emails/

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  183. mgtowhorseman says:

    Bloom County 1989
    Trump’s Brain in Bill-the-Cat’s body
    Weeks of hilarity
    No one brings it up???
    Discuss.

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