A Perfect Storm


Back in my blue pill days, I experienced a news event that left me perplexed.  After the Coalition of the Willing invasion of Iraq there was much unrest on the left.  The country music group the Dixie Chicks gave a concert in the UK.  Note that they are a country music group, which is associated with cowboys, patriotism, working people, etc.  As a side note, in the farm country, country music has replaced all other types of music there; you go into a store, you hear country music.  It wasn’t always this way, it is that other types of music became unpalatable in the countryside.

Back to the story, the Dixie Chicks at the U.K. concert commented that they were ashamed to be associated with George W. Bush and the Iraqi invasion.  Since presumably the UK does not have an country types, this was all well and good.  Or so they thought.  Word leaked back to the US about what they said, setting off a firestorm.  Radio stations in promotional events drove steamrollers over Dixie Chicks CDs.  In short, they angered their US fan base.

The Dixie Chicks really stepped in it.  What to do?  Pose nude for a magazine was the obvious answer.  Why didn’t I think of this?  Probably because I am a logically thinking guy.  When it happened, I thought that this was hideously stupid.  How does this address their remarks that pissed people off?  I would have expected modestly intelligent media to point out the obviously silly distractive nature of the stunt, but I was disappointed.

What we had was a perfect storm of feminism and general leftism.  The Dixie Chicks were suddenly empowering themselves with their nudity, and the leftist media just played along.  I wonder how many people saw that the empress had no clothes?

If a white male group had done the same at a concert, it would have been more difficult for them to pull some type of distractive stunt.   Lefty white males are not given the same latitude; probably they would have had to work much harder, an been more clever to create a distraction.

So once again, if you are a white male, you have to be better.  You can’t depend on a perfect storm to wash your sins away.

 

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Posted in FarmBoy, Politics, SJW, Trainwreck, UK
116 comments on “A Perfect Storm
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Did the Dixie Chicks recover their fame? I don’t think so. I think people are still mad at Jane Fonda for going to Hanoi.
    You did remind of the scene in the Blues Brothers. When they get to Bob’s Country Bunker, Elwood asks what kind of music the have. “Both kinds.” responds the barmaid, “Country and Western.”

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    You do have a point. Posing nude is not an avenue for men to plea for forgiveness. It is kind of silly that it works for women.

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  3. Ame says:

    Tis St. Swithin’s Day in the UK … meaning for us at Spawny’s it’s GLORIOUS PATRIARCH DAY!

    A nod (or smile) and bow (or curtsy) to our Glorious Patriarch!

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  4. Spawny Get says:

    Hi Ame,
    The weather has tweaked towards sunshine, so I’m thinking barbecue this weekend. It’s what my old persona would have wanted.

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  5. RichardP says:

    Don’t know if she will eventually need to pose nude in a bid for forgiveness – but I think this is an interesting read:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/14/theresa-may-gamble-boris-johnson-leave-eu-brexit

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  6. Ame says:

    a BBQ sounds perfect! enjoy every moment. you should get to sit on a throne chair and be served and waited on for the whole day … and the sun should shine the whole day … and the beer (or whatever your choice of beverage) should flow freely all day 🙂

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  7. Spawny Get says:

    Richard,
    I’m not saying that the article I’ll be reading tomorrow is wrong, but it’s in the lefty press. The Guardian is a long, long way from balanced. Slightly worse than the BBC

    Good night

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  8. Spawny Get says:

    Exhibit a
    “The leave vote took our country away from us”

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  9. Yoda says:

    On Tuesday, when CNN reporter Brianna Keilar began to shift her report to explaining Hillary Clinton’s “vulnerabilities” with the coveted minority voting bloc, a necessity for Democrat election victories, the screen suddenly went black and the mic went silent.

    “Remember, Hillary Clinton has some vulnerabilities herself even as she calls for criminal justice reform,” Keilar said. “Because of her support in the 1990’s for anti-crime legislation that ultimately help contribute to this era of mass incarceration that she now speaks out to agai…..”

    The blackout was blamed on “technical difficulties.”

    How convenient.

    http://politistick.com/cnn-reporter-learns-the-hard-way-not-to-criticize-hillary-clinton/

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    That is ominous.

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  11. Yoda says:

    “The leave vote took our country away from us”

    Think about the logic in that statement for a moment one should

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  12. SFC Ton says:

    I’ve had the food in England; Spawny is unlikely to have an enjoyable bbq.

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  13. Tarnished says:

    So once again, if you are a white male, you have to be better.

    Once again, I have no idea why other girls, and therefore women when they age, are taught the opposite of this sentiment nowadays. As a child, my grandparents told me that while men and women were equals now, women still had to prove themselves using a much higher standard to be taken seriously. That to be “good enough” in school was never enough, and even if you aren’t the one committing the crime, you’re just as bad as the perpetrator if you do nothing to help.

    A strong mind & strong morals are 2 of the most important traits a man or woman could possibly possess.

    So what on earth happened in the next generations to throw this all away?

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  14. SFC Ton says:

    The social restraints on women and negro were removed then they were encouraged to go feral at a rapid rate

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I can’t tell you when people turned away from excellence and turned to mediocrity but, it soes seem to be the case.

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  16. Cill says:

    It’s what my old persona would have wanted.

    The bloke in the tin hat, by any chance?

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  17. Tarnished says:

    It’s just such an odd concept, Fuzzie. Why settle for people giving you stuff when it could be earned? Rewards are far more satisfying when they are the fruits of one’s own labors.

    To just…be handed shit?
    For no good reason?
    Frankly, it’s insulting and unfair to those who still must work.

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  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I can’t explain it but, I saw it first hand often enough.

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  19. Cill says:

    Shortly After 9/11, George W Bush said “Islam is a religion of peace.” In my teens at the time, I couldn’t believe my ears. I thought, how could he be such a liar or a fool?

    If we let politicians run our wars, we will lose. In the West, politicians are running scared of feminists (the avowed enemy of The Patriarchy i.e. straight white men) and bleeding heart liberal snowflakes. I rest my case.

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  20. Cill says:

    Just heard on Fox News, “At least 80 dead, including women and children…”

    Let me revise that. “At least 80 dead, including straight white men…”

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  21. Farm Boy says:

    Don’t know if she will eventually need to pose nude in a bid for forgiveness

    Isn’t there a law about that kind of thing? If not, there should be

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  22. Farm Boy says:

    Let me revise that. “At least 80 dead, including straight white men…”

    Do they count? After all, women suffer most in war, so men obviously are of little import.

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps in celebration of his day, the Glorious Patriarch will eat a spotted dick…

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  24. Farm Boy says:

    So if Moe saw this coming at him, what would he do?

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  25. Farm Boy says:

    To just…be handed shit?
    For no good reason?

    Actually, lots of people would like this.
    Though maybe not shit…

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  26. Cill says:

    Perhaps in celebration of his day, the Glorious Patriarch will eat a spotted dick…

    Here’s hoping he takes off of his tin hat and eats it…

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  27. Cill says:

    …without breaking his MSGL teeth.

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  28. Yoda says:

    Might eat a kipper he might.
    Taste good as a sammich it would.
    Though best done outside it would be

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  29. Moehau Man says:

    “Sit thee not on the outside deck”, Mrs Moehau Man (my cautious old mum) warned just then, “lest on a slippery kipper down the steps thine arse might be taken.”

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  30. Spawny Get says:

    http://www.jongaunt.co.uk/
    click livestream on the right hand side.

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    If I saw that coming at me, I wouldn’t want any part of it. I am certain that Moe would feel the same way. And I will bet you a doughnut that she doesn’t smell like pickelets.

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    From what I was able to see, it looked as if attendance at this event was inordinately female. Overwhelmingly so. By extension, the casualties should be overwhelmingly female too. What the heck gives? As in New year’s Eve in Cologne, there were few local men present.
    Someone else offered an explanation but, I discounted it as a knee jerk reaction.
    This is of secondary importance but it is telling.What are all these single women doing attending events that men are avoiding?

    You’re right about the way the mainstream media uses phrases to put down men even when they are killed.

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  33. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Is that St. Swithun in the background?

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    Yes, that’s St Swithun. The rainclouds are appropriate. Today it’s mizzle…mist + drizzle

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There is one good thing to say about rain. It keeps things green. California has two seasons, green and brown. Brown is very long.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    http://www.jongaunt.co.uk/

    Pod 1 – The Rant: Let’s get tough on Terrorism, enough is enough. 15th July.

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  37. SFC Ton says:

    The men are avoiding the women. They won’t fuck betas so why would large number of betas attend?

    Or is that hand wringing for the sake of hand wringing?

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  38. SFC Ton says:

    The Dixie chicks sacked as a bamd. McGraw, Hill and a few others did the anti war stuff and still sold records so mostly I think their crash was about lack of talent

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  39. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Now, why would a self professed alpha want to shut down discussion about the effective venues? This is standard manosphere fodder and most venues for meeting women, for alphas or betas, are over attended by men, making them ineffective. It’s not hand wringing. Even Captain Capitalism can’t suggest a good venue.

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  40. SFC Ton says:

    #1 i was describing the sitution based on some factors

    Day game is the way to go. Stuff that use to work doesn’t anymore. Watched a guy give a girl his business card and she literally said beta and threw it away when as soon as he was turned around.

    Maybe my age or location but nothing else seems effective from a cost benefit stand point. Dont go out looking for bitches. Hit on the ones you run across doing your normal stuff.

    Anyrate…., Not simply in my experience but what I observe in my bar. 80% of the crowd will be groups of dudes or groups of girls but they don’t talk much.. if at all 20% will be couples or dates or want have you. And most of our patrons are dudes, though of course I have no idea about relationship status

    I do know all the betas I know are pretty much over girls. They try now and then but that’s it

    Not that I am really active the SMP but I still hit on every cute chick I run across. Pulled a number from some 24 year old big titty blonde chick at lunch the other day. Why? No one else was talking to her and she wanted to flirt

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I don’t know. If daygame is all there is, that is not much.
    As for the woman that threw away the man’s business card, she did him a favor.
    As for venues, I think that women want them to be ineffective. Perhaps that can be expanded to the whole marketplace. Why they want this is beyond me. It’s not reasonable and it restricts their options.

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I might say that the betas choosing not to participate are not being beta but, are taking control of their situation. That may be construed as alpha.
    Johntheothere had a video recently critical of a one by Nicole Arbour. It was only by her middle to late thirties that she started dating and the her whole video was a complaint. John suggested that for the prior portion of her life she monkey branched. The point is, she didn’t have to date and had men lined up. That would be an indication of marketplace dominiance.
    I don’t know what to think but, the betas that you are observing may be wiser than most of us.

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  43. SFC Ton says:

    Overt SMP venues are poisoned wells I think. Day game takes the prey by surprise… ish especially when done fairly well. Again in my small circle Day Game is king. Not that we talk about that sort of thing, but when we talk about this new girl or what have you, all I can recall is guys pulling there numbers during the day

    I also think guys as a rule never much liked the big, loud, shitty service type of venues women like. I think most men prefer smaller settings and, generally speaking, only went to big events to chase ass. So when they opted out of chasing ass they opt out of those sort of events

    Perhaps, since alphas are normally very social astute, most have already walked from the club scene some time back leaving only betas to do the club scene?

    I know the bar business is driven by women in the thought that if girls show up, men will show up. Reckon that is still true, but now it seems if the bar overtly caters to girls, the guys are a no show and the ones who do show are really badon’t with women.

    My bar carter’s to women in the sense that it is always clean, well lighted, professional staffed, trained security but no no dumb shit like chocolate cake shooter special, no ladies night, no fag music etc. Which works because…. shocker of all shockers most girls like that stuff for AND want to be where the boys are. I wouldn’t be surprised most girls leave my bar upset no boys talked to them

    Casual observation is telling me this all applies to college students as well since it is my understanding the night club thing is not doing well in the various local college towns but bars are

    Don’t read too much into what I wrote. That’s what I see in my small area of the world. One of the things I dislike about PUA blogs is their focus on big cities so I think that throws people off

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  44. SFC Ton says:

    I for one don’t have an issue with betas waving it all off. My things on that is so very few have really tried and so many walk away in an effeminate manner

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  45. Yoda says:

    it is my understanding the night club thing is not doing well in the various local college towns but bars are

    Precisely what the difference between bar and nightclub it is?
    Dancing it is?
    How affect the realtionship dynamic these differences do?

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  46. Yoda says:

    My things on that is so very few have really tried and so many walk away in an effeminate manner

    Perhaps wave the women off because LTR look for they do.
    Bars poor places to find such women they are.

    Also not bother to learn skills because quality of women so poor it is

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  47. Yoda says:

    Which works because…. shocker of all shockers most girls like that stuff for AND want to be where the boys are.

    But only where boys interested in STR or less are.

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  48. Yoda says:

    Again in my small circle Day Game is king.

    If looking for LTR, probably true this is

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  49. Yoda says:

    It was only by her middle to late thirties that she started dating and the her whole video was a complaint

    Obviously expectations not being met they were.
    Wonder where the expectations came from I do

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  50. Yoda says:

    Pulled a number from some 24 year old big titty blonde chick at lunch the other day. Why? No one else was talking to her and she wanted to flirt

    Gotta get their “fix” they do

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  51. Yoda says:

    What are all these single women doing attending events that men are avoiding?

    Being awesome the women are.

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  52. Yoda says:

    Men avoiding sluts at nightclubs they are.
    Women hardest hit

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  53. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There was a gal that I got very fond of through OkCupid but, it never got to meet in person. She did tell me about her son. IN third grade he was very sweet on a girl who told him a big fat fib about another guy. He went into full white knight mode and beat him up.His Mom learned all this stuff in the principal’s office. When I was talking to her, he was a senior in high school and she was certain that he was never going to have anything to do with girls ever again. All this because of something he experienced when he was eight years old.
    I wouldn’t discount any young man for wanting to stay away. These kids have seen too much. It’s not at all like it was when we were kids.

    Not that it matters, but how and why did women poison the venues?

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I heard some details on the Nice driver. It sounds like he was frivorced and he had three kids. It was reported that he was having financial difficulties. Standard for that scenario.

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  55. SFC Ton says:

    Yup dancing and the vibe

    Bars are about dudes doing dude stuff. Pool or sports or bikes or bullshiting with the boys

    Night clubs are about girls, dancing, dressed up, paying extra money for the same beer, loud, Loud, LOUD music. .. being seen the the coolest club, with the coolest clothes spending a shit ton of money. …. girl shit. Men put them into those situations for a chance of getting laid. When that doesn’t pay out they switch tactics.

    Most guys I know are good with either a ONS or an LTR; playing the hand they were dealt. Though I doubt many put much thought into it

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  56. SFC Ton says:

    Having to get her fix is unfair to the girl
    Healthy people like to flirt

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  57. BuenaVista says:

    It really bothers me that dye jobs who insult their country during a time of crisis can just publish some photoshopped nudie pics — and not even reveal the bush! Seriously? There’s a nude selfie ethic here they’re flouting.

    Why are women so confused and anti social? I shudder contemplating all the young men who eagerly clicked on those links. I hope they recover.

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  58. BuenaVista says:

    In general, Ton, now that I’m back in the country, I agree on your analysis of the SMP. Since everyone knows everyone, the challenge is to be fun and ZFG indifferent — and talk up (briefly) every woman you encounter.

    Soon they may be asking ‘Hows your day been?’

    In NYC it was way faster: ‘Here’s my zip, my job, my pic, and my intellectual pretensions.’

    I’m really upset and frustrated by this, of course. It hurts my feelings and I don’t understand why women don’t adopt behavior that compensates better for my limitations. Also, since I am socially advanced, why isn’t everyone else?

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  59. molly says:

    I don’t like night clubs. The women hate me as the men stop talking and look at me. Women splash drink on me and pour booze into my handbag and bump me. I hate society snob do’s most of all. They hate me as I look healthy and happy and clean living. I prefer my favorite men for company.. tho I’m happy alone as well.

    Fun day today! I go fishing with my beau, nice brunch to follow! I luv cooking! Up and into the shower YO!

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly!!! Burrito, burrito, burrito, 🐻 , roll
    I can see that happening to you. Catty bitches!
    Have fun!

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  61. Tarnished says:

    Men avoiding sluts at nightclubs they are.

    Definite ways to tell women sluts they are?
    Likewise, ways to tell if men virgins they are?

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  62. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    As in may things, it is hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
    I would think that bars and nightclubs, dangerous venues they would be.

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  63. Ame says:

    BV – “why women don’t adopt behavior that compensates better for my limitations.”

    please excuse me, y’all. i’ll be gone for awhile as i deal with the shock that BV actually has limitations 😉 🙂

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  64. Yoda says:

    Men avoiding sluts at nightclubs they are.

    Definite ways to tell women sluts they are?

    If at nightclubs they are,
    sluts they would be

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  65. Yoda says:

    Or perhaps “marriage material not” they would be.
    Not much different from slut this is

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  66. molly says:

    F. Wuzzie bear, HI! I don’t put many food avatars now as too many will annoy people.. but THANK YOU Fuzzy 🐻 I will save a fish for you 🙂

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  67. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Where would you recommend a young Yoda to go in search of Mrs. Yoda in these times?
    Please do not say Industrial Light and Magic, Marin County, California.

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  68. molly says:

    Hi Tarn, the PPP I aimed the icecream at looks stylish in a business suit yet slutty as well. She might always look slutty in my eyes as I’ve seen her drunk with a crew. Might they walk different after being through a lot of men? Slut walk heh

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  69. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    Thank you! The thought of fresh fish makes me happy!

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    If I am right, you will never feel the need to launch ice cream at her again. You, in your virtue, have a beau to call your very own. She, in her perfidy, won’t be able to hang on to one. Even if she finds one that is loyal, she will screw it up.
    Enjoy your ice cream!

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  71. molly says:

    Thank you F Dubya!

    Off on the ocean wave I go! Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum, fish here we come!
    (We don’t really drink on the water, we are “sea fearing”) wink
    Bye!

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  72. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Music for Molly.

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  73. SFC Ton says:

    How to tell if a woman is a slut?

    A pluse, heart beat, respiratory system function… all the classic tells right there

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  74. Spawny Get says:

    Update from Europe. Military coup in Turkey…ISYN

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  75. Yoda says:

    CNN’s live coverage on Friday of the Nice, France terror attack featured an interview with one young survivor and was deemed by the CNN graphic of having been a “Trump Rampage Survivor” hinting that he had lived to tell of a rampage carried out by presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2016/07/15/cnn-chyron-fail-suggests-muslim-male-france-was-trump-rampage

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  76. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda, Nice is so yesterday, we’re Turkeying today

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  77. Yoda says:

    In May, we proposed a set of new emoji to the Unicode Technical Committee that represent a wider range of professions for women (as well as men), and reflect the pivotal roles that women play in the world. Since then, we’ve worked closely with members of the Unicode Emoji Subcommittee to bring the proposal to life.

    Today, the Unicode Emoji Subcommittee has agreed to add 11 new professional emoji, in both male and female options and with all the skin tones. That’s more than 100 new emoji to choose from!

    https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/07/promoting-gender-equality-through-emoji.html

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  78. Yoda says:

    A Turkish Military Coup a good thing it would be

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  79. Yoda says:

    The Nice Lorry Driver named Mohammad he was.
    Difficult to believe this is.

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  80. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I can’t make head nor tails of it. It’s all in Turkish. There is one good thing. In the 20s, they went from Arabic to Roman letters, so, at least, we can read what we don’t understand.

    On a serious note, Turkey has had a secular governmen since the fall of the Ottoman Empire. If they go Islamic, that will be a huge game changer. They have been part of NATO since the beginning.
    I hope tht we do not have nukes there.

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  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    One hundred new emojis? That should make women and feminists very happy! Progress.
    How much did all this foolishness cost?

    Don’t tell me. They’re back!!!

    They brought friends.

    more friends,

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  82. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Let Lena Dunham eat cake. A whole one, in one sitting, on the toilet while nude.
    Please, no pictures.

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  83. Yoda says:

    Let Lena Dunham eat cake

    Bastille Day yesterday it was.
    Forget about the events the media desires it does.
    Get with the program you should

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  84. Yoda says:

    A big relief this is

    The FBI has found no evidence so far that Omar Mateen, who killed 49 people and wounded more than 53 at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, chose the popular establishment because of its gay clientele, said U.S law enforcement officials.

    “While there can be no denying the significant impact on the gay community, the investigation hasn’t revealed that he targeted pulse because it was a gay club,” a U.S. law enforcement official said.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/15/wapo-fbi-finds-no-evidence-orlando-terror-attack-motivated-by-homophobia/

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  85. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think that it was the governor who said, in an interview, that this guy drove two hours to get there. I think that he was making a point to intent.
    One thing that was overlooked, by default all bars are gun free zones in Florida because liquor is being sold. Mass murderers love gun free zones.

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Lena can talk to this guy about cultural appropriation.

    After that, she can work off all that cake training with them, They have a girl unit.

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  87. Yoda says:

    The new Ghostbusters made it to Degoba it has

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  88. Tarnished says:

    Hi Tarn, the PPP I aimed the icecream at looks stylish in a business suit yet slutty as well.

    Hey Molly. Hope you’re well? It’s been a while since I’ve seen you around. Though I might just be missing you…
    Regarding the PPP, is it body language or too much makeup? Or something else?

    As in may things, it is hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

    Lol. I hardly think a virgin man is the “worst”, Fuzzie. And certainly better than a slutty woman or slutty man who has lost the concept of sex as a special, intimate act.

    My question was a serious one. The incel blogs I peruse frequently have male commenters bemoaning the fact that women stay far away from inexperienced males. I have tried to ask how one could possibly tell a stranger’s virginity or N, but am always met with complete silence and *only* to this one question.

    So since we were discussing how one might tell (from simply looking) that a woman is a slut, I was wondering if anyone here had an idea about the male side of the coin.

    I honestly don’t think there is a way to know for certain, in either direction.

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  89. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    A very short run it will have in the theaters.A record time it will make to video. Hard to believe that merchandise was marked down significantly before theatrical release. They should have released this on Thanksgiving, for a turkey it is.

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  90. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Inexperience and lack of confidence shows. To add to that, if they are asked, there is no point in lying.

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    It’s not just the incels. Given the marketplace, girls have a lot more opportunity to add to their experience than the guys. They gain experience a lot faster and don’t want a partner with less.

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  92. Tarnished says:

    It’s not just the incels. Given the marketplace, girls have a lot more opportunity to add to their experience than the guys.

    Not disputing that, Fuzzie.

    Inexperience and lack of confidence shows.

    Hmm. I agree that inexperience in a particular situation can show, and the same goes for a lack of confidence. However, I do not think that everyone with sexual experience necessarily has good confidence or that a lack of social confidence automatically equates to an N of 0.

    At least, I do not assume so.

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  93. Tarnished says:

    Put simply, a man may be incredibly awkward and anxious in a social setting yet be a fantastic lover. And the reverse can hold true too…a man might be a selfish sex partner but have a huge amount of charisma outside the bedroom.

    Or so I’ve read.

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  94. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Women do have an incredibly brutal and incisive sorting mechanism. It’s as if they are looking to zero in on faults. Seeing it in action can ve very disconcerting unless the boy flat just doesn’t care.

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  95. Tarnished says:

    It goes without saying that the above can be true for women, too. I’m amazing in the sack…but socially? I’m a dweeb.

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  96. Tarnished says:

    It’s as if they are looking to zero in on faults.

    Everyone has faults. And everyone has merits. Accepting both is what it means to like someone.

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  97. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I can’t imagine you being a dweeb. As to the other, that is between you and your sweetie.
    I have never appraised my social skills. As for the other, I have never had feedback from someone I could trust. That may be true for social skills too.

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  98. Tarnished says:

    Off topic.

    Seamus and I are watching Voltron: Legendary Defender on Netflix right now. It’s pretty good. We recommend it.

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  99. Tarnished says:

    I can’t imagine you being a dweeb.

    Oh, I am.
    All my friends agree, and I trust their feedback. Plus it’s pretty obvious to myself, especially when talking to women. Too many verbal cues that don’t match the rest of their body language. I can’t “doublespeak” for the life of me.

    Ergo, I’m an inept dweeb in casual situations with new people. Business situations where I know my shit can be easily faked with false extrovertism though.

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  100. Tarnished says:

    I have never appraised my social skills.

    Really?

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  101. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I still don’t see you as a dweeb. If you are relying on input from women, they may be reacting to your lack of guile. That is not a fault.
    As for my social skills, maybe I worked in retail too long. The public will always find a fault. So, after a while, you stop caring.
    About the incels going quiet, rejection hurts and, by definition, they have never known acceptance,

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  102. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    It is a little crazy to think about but, what if they did bring back the Knights Templar? That would have to shock the terrorists to the core.
    Well, in this political climate, it is a fantasy.

    Your silence tells me that if you were a young Yoda and had to find Mrs. Yoda all over again, Industrial Light and Magic would be your only option.
    Make her favorite soup for her.

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  103. BuenaVista says:

    I’m really frightened. The world remains uninterested in my plight, and — given my limitions — I can’t think of excuses to post 27 times about pop culture and how sexually deprived I am.

    Perhaps I should go read a book?

    Unclear.

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  104. Ame says:

    nah … write a book. then you have your own place to rant 🙂

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  105. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  106. Tarnished says:

    I still don’t see you as a dweeb. If you are relying on input from women, they may be reacting to your lack of guile. That is not a fault.

    I used to, and that is also true. My skills at communicating IRL with women are not very high. I say only what I mean (albeit politely), without doublespeak or frills or worries that others agree with me.

    As for my social skills, maybe I worked in retail too long. The public will always find a fault. So, after a while, you stop caring.

    Also true, Fuzzie.
    Retail (and food service) shows a lot of men and women’s true colors towards workers who are “beneath” them. It’s not pretty. Just yesterday I was in line at Dunkin Donuts behind an old man in a business suit who was railing on the cashier because “whenever I come in here at this time, getting my food takes forever and someone should report you to the company for making your customers wait!”
    I tapped him on the shoulder and said “it’s called a lunch rush for a reason, sir” then told the cashier they were doing a great job handling so many people all at once.

    Gods above, I hate entitled people who have no sympathy for the working class.

    About the incels going quiet, rejection hurts and, by definition, they have never known acceptance.

    I absolutely appreciate that, Fuzzie. I was contacted by nearly a dozen incel men after this post https://tarnishedsophia.wordpress.com/2014/10/26/tarnished/ went up. I learned so much from them and their stories…but still not exactly how they think a woman (or another man, I suppose) could tell a guy’s N at a glance. That’s the only thing I can’t understand regarding the incel community, because nobody discusses it.

    Kind of like Ton’s story above, about the chick who threw the guy’s business card away and called him a “beta”…How the hell did she know??? They only had a short conversation!

    It makes me think that these women *don’t* actually have any way to sniff out a man’s N/virginity at a glance, and are just assuming 9 out of 10 men are inexperienced or “betas” upon meeting them. So maybe what incels are experiencing is simply a coincidence of the woman being correct in that one situation, not that they look or act any different than other males.

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  107. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn
    I can’t answer how women can “size up” men so quickly. It is just that they can and it all happens at an subconscious level. Should a man fail to “sell” the subconscious, it’s all over.

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  108. Tarnished says:

    I just laugh, because men are supposed to be the shallow ones but women have rejection down to an art.

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  109. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    It is an exercise of power. There is a problem with it though that isn’t widely considered. Its effects are cumulative. A few years ago Roosh had a post which showed pictures of gathering as a substitute for numbers. By the time internet dating was factored in for an 18-25 year old girl, the number of men that she had rejected was close to 250,000. I don’t want to think of being rejected that many times.

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  110. Tarnished says:

    By the time internet dating was factored in for an 18-25 year old girl, the number of men that she had rejected was close to 250,000.

    Do you remember any of the key words in the title of that post? I’d love to read it. That number is absolutely mind-boggling. It’s incredibly high! I don’t think I’ve *met* 250,000 men, much less declined their date offers.

    Though I’ve no experience with online dating, so that probably affects the stats significantly. Was he counting times when the woman ignores the messages/gives no response, or only the active rejections?

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  111. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I went looking for it without success. If you find it. There are a series of photographs of larger and larger crowds to represent the numbers.
    There are very few actual rejections online. They simply do not respond.
    Recalling it, he stars off with an evening in a club and there are twenty five men turned away. He keeps adding venues and the numbers increase exponentially. The 250k may be an exaggeration but , it may be feasible over the course of seven years at peak attraction including the exposure afforded by internet dating.

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  112. Tarnished says:

    Yeah, I’ve tried looking for it using potential keywords but so far it’s a no go. I’ll look again this afternoon.

    Your point about the club venues + online dating but it in a different perspective for me. Careerists who are at their job all day don’t go to clubs/bars… However, we sometimes get asked out at work or while grocery shopping, lol.

    If I had to give an estimate of how many gents I’ve declined the date or sex offers of, I’d say it’s probably between 40 and 60, lifetime total. A far cry from hundreds of thousands.

    The guys I’ve spoken to about the “non-response” in online dating are on one of 2 sides:
    Do want a rejection message, or don’t.
    Usually very different reasons. Which camp did you fall into?

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  113. Cill says:

    Tarn re virgin males.

    I don’t think appearance alone (as from a photograph) could provide a viable test of virgin or high N except for the extremes of ugliness and good looks. You’d have to see their behavior. Even then, apart from behavior revealing obvious inexperience, you couldn’t arrive at a viable test.

    However, all this is academic if we’re talking about the “test” women use. If he doesn’t exhibit the confidence of the most experienced males, he’s a “virgin” or a “beta” to be rejected. It’s not so much that virgins are obvious as that high N men are obvious. Women focus on the “top” 10% and reject the rest.

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