A Bridge Too Far


Over at Dalrock’s, Deti comments

Yes Means Yes and “affirmative consent” are endemic of our society’s current schizophrenia regarding sex. At bottom, it is all about power, and redistributing power to women in sex and relationships.

It is plain, raw, redistribution of sexual (and therefore social and relational) power. Because the power to decide who gets sex, and the importance level to be assigned to sex, in large part determines whether relationships happen and, once made, the course of the relationship. The point is to leave the man completely and totally powerless over his relationships, and ultimately, over himself in a relationship.

Yes, it is about power.  The power grab has seemingly worked for fifty years.  Men still work and get married.  It is clearly time for the next step.  And an awkward step it is.

Unmarried women have wanted power in relationships for two primary reasons

I.  To more easily eliminate the men that they are not interested in.

II. To use their power to capture, control and keep men that they are interested in.

It is all about hypergamy, that is, the strong desire of women for only what they consider to be the top men.  Probably women do not realize that they are engaging in hypergamous behavior.  Furthermore, these desires blind them to the possible impacts of this next step.

The fact that consent forms exist is going to make men think.  This is not what these women want to do.  They will remind men that rape charges are a possibility at the precise time that women have the most manipulative control capability.   There will be lots of seeds of doubt planted.  If on one occasion, a consent form is not signed, the man might later worry double about the encounter; consequently changing future behavior.

In short, consent forms have the potential to really mess with the heads of many of the men that women desire.  Stories of encounters gone wrong will get around, with men being reminded of them every time that a consent form is or isn’t signed.  This will affect behavior around the margins for men (who knows, maybe 10% extra will shy away).  This marginal change will dramatically impact the market.

One wonders if women’s quest for relationship power has hit a limit, and is headed down a negative slope.

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62 comments on “A Bridge Too Far
  1. Cill says:

    maybe 10% extra will shy away
    It will plant the first seeds of doubt in a lot of men’s heads. Is she worth it? Are women worth it? Is sex worth it? Are prostitutes less costly than the SMP + frivorce?

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  2. Tarnished says:

    Depends on what “it” is, Cill.

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  3. Tarnished says:

    the power to decide who gets sex, and the importance level to be assigned to sex

    What determines who decides this in a relationship?

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  4. mgtowhorseman says:

    Keep in mind the inertia in the system. the ones doing this are the 30 to 40 year olds of the fem movement pushing this. not the 20somethings. They are the ones who will bear the brunt as the guys head for the hills.

    Think of todays 20 something male regardless of rank.

    1 in 2 saw their dad ejected from the home and see first hand the imminent folly of frivorce.

    1 in 3 raised by a single mom who never married and so saw the wholesale failure of that system.

    Many saw friends, college buddies, colleges wrongly accused and felt the brunt of the “rape” courts.

    1 in 3 has heard of pua, game, etc. and see it for the manipulation it is.

    1 in idaknow 1 has used tinder, etc. to hookup for meaningless sex and has seen how wonderfully emotionally fulfilling that is and so reducing to a base physical release and nothing more.

    So for this 20 something that has seen first hand and has a gazillion reasons to either just use women for sex, are too jaded by experience lived to believe in commitment and who sees and reads all the politics daily.

    Now you wanna make it harder for them and put a written warning sign…beware sueing, bat shit crazy bitch ahead in front of him.

    And this is going to empower the wonderful 20 something woman (ok tattooed self indulgent beast) to not only control the sex but to eventually lock one down for marriage.

    ok lets say for some reason it works to control 20 something sex.

    fast forward a decade. the now 30 something is approached by an ex carouseller to lock down marriage. “dont worry baby i wont frivorce you”

    “but i couldnt even have sex without a waiver, now trust you. See here are all 120 waivers from every time i had sex (monthly x 10 years) just in case some girl from ten years ago wanted to change her mind.

    now you say trust you for the next 30-40 years. Um I’ll get back to you after consulting my attourny, accountant, MY DAD, and all the guys who have waivers on you as soon as the freedom of information request comes thru. (they must be filed somewhere).

    yea. good idea.
    just sells the mgtow or pua lifestyle harder.

    fucking morons.

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Sorry to be late top the party. Here is the theme song.

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  6. Yoda says:

    Depends on what “it” is,

    Bill Clinton say something like that he did?
    After 900 years, memory sometimes fails it does

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I believe that women created hookup culture. Having weeded out betas, hookup culture becomes a tool to lock down alphas in their eyes. There is only one flaw in this approach and it is big. Alphas have options. So, the strategy fails. Enter rape claims which are the result of regretted sex. Women will seek a means to achieve dominance over alphas but it is going to fail. Alphas have options.
    It is hard to feel sorry for them. They wanted to punch out of their league and play with the bad boys while forgoing men who would have made good life partners. While they have alienated the betas, they will, in turn, alienate the alphas.

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  8. Yoda says:

    Deserves another posting this does

    Wonder if Jessica Valenti tears in there they are…

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Something tells me that Hillary is going to run out of criticisms very fast.

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  10. Cill says:

    Depends on what “it” is, Cill

    “It” is the topic here, headed “A Bridge Too Far”

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  11. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am sill mad at Jessica Valenti for wearing that sweatshirt. To take pleasure is the pain of the innocent is truly sick. Perhaps I am still adjusting to the notion that men are hated.

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  12. SFC Ton says:

    A woman’s luster for power and contro over men are only satisfied when she is in submission to an alpha male…. and remember it’s fear/ weakness and what not driving said list for control

    Otherwise they are feral or fighting the urge to go feral and let’s face it, women don’t really fight that urage these days

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    It’s still 7/7 here and I thought to link this. I don’t think that anyone has composed anything to honor fallen civilians.

    Spawny and Cill, watch the credits.

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  14. RichardP says:

    @Fuzzie: “I am sill mad at Jessica Valenti for wearing that sweatshirt.”

    This one?

    Are you aware of this?
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=male%20tears

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    RichardP,
    I think that feminists were unaware of the second meaning. I think that their intent was to promote cruelty.

    Getting back to the original post, they have taken it too far. While they wanted advantage and dominance, they are going to walk away empty handed.

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  16. Tarnished says:

    “It” is the topic here, headed “A Bridge Too Far”

    “It” could entail many things though, as we’ll likely discuss. For example;

    Is she worth it? Are women worth it? Is sex worth it?

    I dislike Roosh very much but he made a good point in a post regarding what this “it” was. Basically, these questions could read as:

    “Is she worth losing your dignity and individuality over?”

    “Are women worth spending time, money, and credit on?”

    “Is sex worth becoming an fake entertainer for a few hours…or weeks…or months?”

    Such are the “it”s that require consideration and discussion. Personally, I’d not suggest that anyone lower themselves to gain attention from the opposite sex.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn
    It always shocks me when I see how deep the hate that feminists have for men runs. This is not rational. It is well beyond sane. And they mean it.

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  18. Yoda says:

    “It” could entail many things though, as we’ll likely discuss. For example;

    Thought this would be a lead-in to oversharing I did

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  19. Yoda says:

    Directed by Boaty McBoatface’s brother it was

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  20. Cill says:

    I watching the news. 10 Police shot in Dallas.
    3 of them dead

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  21. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    This is very different from mass shooting in the past. It seems that they are targeting police officers. Not much is known beyond journalistic speculation.

    Yoda,
    Richard Attenbporough could put together one heck of a cast.

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  22. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Don’t know how much y’all are hearing, but it was outside a “Black Lives Matter” protest, and they’re targeting uniforms. I doubt it’s muslims looking for their 72 raisins.

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  23. Cill says:

    At least 16 rounds fired.
    11 Police officers shot, 4 dead. Also 1 civilian shot.

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This is a tipping point. I don’t think that Black Lives Matter is going to have that much slack cut for it going forward. I also remember, that in the wake of the North Hollywood bank robbery in 1997 police were nervous for a long time.

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  25. Cill says:

    I’m getting the same reports you Americans are getting, so I won’t be telling you anything new. FWIW Police say there were 2 shooters. The shots came from an elevated position, probably a parking building. The demonstration looked to be drawing to a close when the shooting began.

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  26. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    They’re reporting they’ve got two shooters in custody. Persons of interest anyway.

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  27. Cill says:

    I’ve been watching it for hours. Did any of you see the footage (taken from a high position) of the 2 gunmen dodging around the pillars? One of them shot the other, and he looked to have some experience or training.

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  28. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    No, I didn’t but when you said about sixteen rounds fired and fourteen people down, that did give me a clue.

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  29. Cill says:

    I’ve stopped watching. The coverage is starting to get into the political crap.

    From what I saw so far:
    The attack was planned.
    News of the march did not come out until last night Dallas time.

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Uh oh! If ti was planned, then the shooters had knowledge in advance of the public. That raises it to a conspiracy from a crime of opportunity.
    Thanks, Cill, for relaying

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  31. Cill says:

    I’m switching off live coverage of Dallas for now. I’m going to watch some rugby. Have a good night, Fuzzy.

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Will do. Maybe some music videos for me.

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  33. Cill says:

    Onya Fuzzbo

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  34. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Let us hope that we wake to a good resolution.

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  35. Fuzzie and Richard, my understanding of the male tears definition is that MRA’s defined it this after her tshirt – adding a new meaning to the phrase! Clever 🙂

    The Dallas thing… What the <#%|!???? What is wrong w people??? Any word on who the murders are and from where? Bastards!

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  36. Shooters, I don’t like the term. Murderers. That’s what they are. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    Ton, I’m shocked that they’re ‘shocked’. This is merely the feminine imperative unleashed in an amoral age. I just hope that some poor sap doesn’t end up unknowingly marrying one of these hoes. If he knows the deal? That’s his call (after taking the red pill). Though why someone would knowingly marry a money-grubbing actual ho is beyond me.

    With social media, Shirley this is going to be an increasingly hard secret to keep.

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  38. I’ve had several married guys hint that they would like me to be their side piece, even offering to pay all my living expenses to be their “girlfriend.” But I never even considered it, adultery is not my style. Plus it just seemed I dunno, weird. Too much potential complication. If I was willing to work my sexuality, especially when younger, I am sure I could have cleaned up. But I don’t think it would have been worth what it would have done to me as a person. Nothing is free. Lke that picture of the gal w all the shopping bags and “stuff?” How shallow and fleeting to think that is “success.” I get why a woman would do it, but not my thing.

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  39. I’ve had several married guys hint that they would like me to be their side piece, even offering to pay all my living expenses to be their “girlfriend.” But I never even considered it, adultery is not my style. Plus it just seemed I dunno, weird. Too much potential complication. If I was willing to work my sexuality, especially when younger, I am sure I could have cleaned up. But I don’t think it would have been worth what it would have done to me as a person. Nothing is free. Lke that picture of the gal w all the shopping bags and “stuff?” How shallow and fleeting to think that is “success.” I get why a woman would do it, but not my thing. However the article does remind me I probably should go get a haircut and get my nails done… Lol!

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  40. Btw I don’t consider snipers in a combat situation murderers, they are shooters. But these guys in Dallas? No.

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  41. This detail sticks out to me: “Two suspects were seen climbing into a black Mercedes with a camouflage bag before speeding off. They were apprehended…” Black Mercedes. Hummm. Not poor, most likely. Not resource less. Disturbing.

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I am glad that you didn’t. There is something wrong with all of this but, it’s indirect.

    Spawny Get,
    I guess that they think that they can close it out like starting a new chapter. Do ordinary people have the resources to investigate someone to that extent?

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    and

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  44. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Laurie Penny as PM?
    That is sick. *silly face*

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  45. Yoda says:

    How bad of a day was this for Hillary Clinton? Well, during the course of questioning, he was asked about a number of Hillary Clinton’s more ridiculous and demonstrably false statements about her server during the course of her campaign, and asked whether he thought those were lies. His response, basically, was that you could probably assume that about most people, but when it came to Hillary Clinton, it’s possible she really is that clueless

    http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/07/07/watch-james-comey-defend-hillary-clinton-implying-shes-bright-video/

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  46. Yoda says:

    Hillary will go to jail for this not,

    A woman from Red Lion pleaded guilty on Wednesday to disorderly conduct in a case in which police said she had sex so loud that it shook a dresser and bed in her neighbor’s home.
    Amanda Warfel, 25, was ordered to spend 45 to 90 days in York County Prison

    http://www.ydr.com/story/news/crime/2016/07/07/red-lion-woman-pleads-guilty-loud-sex-case/86729542/

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  47. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I had to read the whole of the linked post. This would have been extreme had it occurred between detached houses but, it happened in a row house. I have heard that good neighbors hand each other kleenex when they sneeze. Still, I wouldn’t want her for a neighbor. There was a history of noise complaints.

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  48. Spawny Get says:

    The wonderful agenda free, fair and balanced MSM

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  49. Yoda says:

    Violence in Chicago is reaching epidemic proportions. In the first five months of 2016, someone was shot every two and a half hours and someone murdered every 14 hours, for a total of nearly 1,400 nonfatal shooting victims and 240 fatalities. Over Memorial Day weekend, 69 people were shot, nearly one per hour, dwarfing the previous year’s tally of 53 shootings over the same period. The violence is spilling over from the city’s gang-infested South and West Sides into the downtown business district; Lake Shore Drive has seen drive-by shootings and robberies.
    The crime wave in Chicago illustrates how politicians trapped themselves in a vise of conflicting expectations from which there is no escape. It has proved impossible to do something and its opposite simultaneously, in this case withdraw the police and protect the community. It may prove just as impossible to require transgender bathrooms and guarantee no sexual harassment takes place or open the borders while promising there will be no terror attacks. When one thinks of it, making health care “affordable” while opening it to high-risk groups was always a unlikely proposition.

    Impossible, yet Big Tent constituencies are routinely green-lighted on both ends of a one-way street and told to floor the pedal. For a while they could spin it with smoke and mirrors. But in the end, illusion does not last.

    “What if I told you,” asks a Matrix-themed photo meme circulating on Facebook, “that you can be against cops murdering citizens and citizens murdering cops at the same time?” To that one might reply that the America in which that was possible might have died in Dallas, Texas in the last few hours. The age of the zero sum game may have arrived with a vengeance:

    Dallas police say four officers have died after at least two snipers opened fire during protests downtown. Seven other officers were wounded.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/07/07/denial-dies-in-dallas/?singlepage=true

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  50. Yoda says:

    There is a new post

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  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Christiane Amanpour is such a disappointment. CNN should let her go but, there is the golden parachute of sex discrimination lawsuits that has to be covered.
    Am I turning cynical?

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  52. Ame says:

    SFC Ton says:
    8 July, 2016 at 11:27 am
    “Feminist lowering the price of ass”

    —–

    such a sad, sick, debase, depraved, world.

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  53. RichardP says:

    Re. Male Tears: Thanks all for expanding my perspective. Took me to a world I didn’t know existed. All I can say is “good grief”. I want to say “there are none so blind as those who will not see”. But I can’t get to the “will not”; I’m stuck on “… can not see.” They don’t know, and don’t know that they don’t know.

    From here:
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/08/08/ironic_misandry_why_feminists_joke_about_drinking_male_tears_and_banning.html

    “Advocating for women’s rights won’t lead to … but it will require the deflation of male power:”

    Q: How, when men won’t pay any attention to what you are doing?

    A; We will pass laws then.

    Q: Laws were made to be broken. What will you do when men ignore your laws?

    A: We will put the whole force of the State behind enforcing these law that will deflate men’s power.

    Q: What “force of the State”;

    A: We will throw them in jail.

    Q: How? If they all band together and resist arrest. How will you overcome that?

    A. Well, we can send swat teams, or call out the National Guard.

    Q. You mean you won’t be able to force men to obey the laws that deflate male power so you will call on other men to use their superior force to overcome the resisters?

    A. Exactly. We will succeed by deflating men’s power.

    Q. Ummm … Oh, never mind.

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Having read the link,feminists can’t understand why men can’t se the humor in all this. They think that men don’t get it. Oh, men get it all right.

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