We’ve only gone and blown the doors off!

Happy Day!


I must admit that when the polls closed at 10pm last night I hoped for BREXIT but I wasn’t very hopeful that we’d get it.  That nutter that murdered Jo Cox just before the last weekend blew away my previously growing optimism.

The story of the night was As it ‘appens

Just climbed out of bed to hear

Cameron will be replaced by October – great, the quisling that lied his arse off to try and keep us on our knees within the EU can have no part of negotiations going forward.  But we need time to construct the new party infrastructure.  That new infrastructure will desperately need to find an accomodation with UKIP down south (Southern Englnd).

Labour rumblings of Corbyn needing to go.  True, if they want to be electable.  But when they eject the champagne socialists in order to reconnect to the working class…the replacement will need to be an actual socialist, just a more grounded one.  I wish them ill in that search.  John Mann is just one of the names that I don’t want as leader…because he’s a grounded, real working class guy.  Labour lost a LOT of votes up in the north of England.  Scotland was a warning (they were wiped out in the last General Election), they ignored it.

The SNP (Scot’s nationalists) are already wibbling about a second referendum.  Shit-stirring.  Why?  Because oil is still in the toilet.  We still should refuse to share a currency with them.  They’ll be OUT of the EU looking to re-join.  Rejoining means Schengen and the Euro (however long either lasts).  And it’ll be an EU with a missing wallet to pick.

Let the wave of referenda across the EU commence.

Let the rest emerge in the comments…I am genuinely optimistic for the first time in years.


Posted in EUReferendum, Politics, UK, UKIP, Uncategorized
198 comments on “We’ve only gone and blown the doors off!
  1. Sumo says:

    My inner Scot is conflicted on this issue – while I believe that the English bastards should be put to the sword (not our Noble Patriarch, of course), I also don’t want one of my ancestral homelands to throw in with those cucks in the EU.

    Annnnnnnnnnnnd……..that all I’ve got in the bad jokes department for now. I am truly happy that folks in the UK had the sense to choose their own best interest over political correctness.

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  2. Spawny Get says:

    From Cill on the previous thread
    “It takes adversity or crisis or threat or extreme challenge to ruffle the stoicism of the Brit”

    At around 10:30 last night I basically thought that ProjectFear from the lying scummy Remainiacs had just done enough to win. I thought the EU would unleash a flood of bile as revenge. I thought we’d then have a long, fruitless search for another referendum. Fruitless because the elites would never give us another.

    I was really happy to see that ProjectFear raised a solid wave of ProjectGFY. They put our backs up. Not only am I happy to be headed out, I’m more optimistic about the British people. British not just English? Yeah. The other nations did not vote out as hard as they were supposed to. The SNP is shit-stirring, but then that’s all that the SNP does.

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  3. Spawny Get says:

    Hi Sumo,

    I’d actually prefer the Scots to come along but not ‘at any price’. They need to sack up and join in. I’d actually hope that Eire, the Irish Republic would come join us. Just let the internal national borders within the UK and the Eire one fade a little.


  4. Spawny Get says:

    Three bad nights of sleep in a row, but here I sit with a smile on my face. And genuine optimsim (compared to the alternative).

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  5. Spawny Get says:

    The Brexiteers group that doesn’t contain Nigel, they’re making appeals for solidarity. That’d be nice. Kick out the political class’ elitism and come together for the interests of the real people.

    Nigel is kicking arse to get the process of Brexit going 😉

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  6. Spawny Get says:

    ‘the doors off’ in the title?

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  7. Spawny Get says:

    Jruncker on TV.

    Removes the agreed on renegotiation from February. Which was meaningless anyway.

    ‘There will be no renegotiation’

    Suits me mate. I want OUT

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  8. Spawny Get says:

    SNP Sturgeon on TV

    Scotland voted ‘in’.

    Makes it clear that they only hate the Sassanach bastards, everyone else remains welcome in Scotland.

    ‘Democratic result for UK is undemocratic for Scotland.’ Yeah but if England had voted out, but the overall result was in? Fuck England. Just cannot look beyond the hate for the English. It’s why the English are pretty sanguine over whether they stick around. In fact, maybe give ius the vote too…and reap the whirlwind. Out of the EU. Out of the pound. Recover all UK state jobs out of Scotland.

    Claims that she’ll seek to keep Scotland in the EU.


  9. Spawny Get says:

    Sturgeon wishes Spineless Dave, the guy who bent over backwards to bribe them to stay, well. Of course she does. He was the dream opposition for the SNP; spineless, desperate to please her, but still an ebul Tory Sassanach bastad. He’s gone baby, gone.

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  10. Spawny Get says:

    Sturgeon backs away from an immediate ‘out referendum’. She knows that her best situation is within the tent, but endlessly shit stirring and creating division.


  11. Spawny Get says:

    Merkin, about the remaining 27 countries…’let’s not get hasty now. remain calm about the EU future’.


    The countries in the EU are going to be well worth watching. A wave of referenda? Fantatsic! Come join us out. A basic, friendly loose association of independant nations would be perfect. That’s not so strange. That’s what we were told we were voting for back when we joined.

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    Brillo (a Scot) pours some cold water on the prospect of a Scot’s exit from the UK. He’s a realist above all else. Love the guy.

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  13. Spawny Get says:

    Betting odds for Dave’s replacement

    Boris Johnson 4/5

    Theresa May 3/1

    Michael Gove 5/1

    Andrea Leadsom 10/1

    Stephen Crabb 16/1

    Priti Patel 16/1

    George Osborne 16/1

    Sajid Javid 20/1

    Dominic Raab 20/1

    Philip Hammond 20/1

    Liam Fox 25/1

    Amber Rudd 25/1

    Ruth Davidson 25/1

    May at 3 to 1? fuckoff. She’s useless. She betrayed her previous views, she joined the remainiacs. But then kept her head down.

    Gove, Leadsom, Raab, Fox and Mogg…they’re the names we need to see. Boris might be acceptable as the price to pay for his work for BREXIT.



  14. Sumo says:

    I’d actually prefer the Scots to come along but not ‘at any price’. They need to sack up and join in. I’d actually hope that Eire, the Irish Republic would come join us. Just let the internal national borders within the UK and the Eire one fade a little.

    I play up the Scots bit mostly for humour, because the “Scotanese” thing is funny to me. Truthfully, while the majority of my (white) ethnic lineage is Scots, there’s a bit of English and Irish in there, too. I would be ecstatic if all of the elements of my bloodline could learn to work together and improve their own self interests.

    That being said, if the Scots have regressed to the point where they cannot or will not look out for themselves, then I say scrape ’em off. I will feel regret for the Scots, but my belief in freedom is stronger than distant blood ties.

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    Eurocrats blame Dave. Then criticise him for quitting as leader.

    German MEP says they’ll miss our wallet, but not us.

    EU commission says ‘let’s get on with it’.

    Now you’re talking! Yeah, baby. I don’t want a two year process. I want our wallet closed immediately. Borders controlled immediately. Trade deals with everyone opened immediately. I’m with Nigel. Who’d make a great negotiator.

    German MEP says Jruncker and fellow Schulz must go.

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  16. Spawny Get says:

    “would be ecstatic if all of the elements of my bloodline could learn to work together and improve their own self interests.”

    *Knuckle bump*

    It’s the carping that we’re all sick of.

    There’s a fantastic opportunity to form an alliance of the British Isles and the Scandies and the non-German northern countries that don’t want to be subsumed by Germany. And the Commonwealth (most of it anyway. stop the frigging mass immigration)

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    “my belief in freedom is stronger than distant blood ties.”



  18. Spawny Get says:

    On background play in my mind (but ‘democracy’ not ‘football’)

    Three Lions on my shirt

    If we could win the Euro2016, that’d be nice too. Another lift of morale.

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  19. Spawny Get says:

    “I play up the Scots bit mostly for humour”

    fine by me. keep it up

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  20. Spawny Get says:

    Motion of no confidence in Jezza Corbyn (labour party leader) announced.

    They’re right. He’s a plonker. BUT he’s the plonker that the hardline lefty proles on the demonstrations want. This could be catastrophic for the Labour party. A party that abandoned the workers decades ago. Sanders is a good analogue, I think. A true believer, but hopelessly unrealistic as a national leader.

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    My let’s put the petty divisions behind us attitude is shared by the Brexiteer leaders on TV BTW. They are looking statesman-like.

    You can add Hannan to the proto leaders list. Haven’t always been a fan, but boy-done-okay in the campaign.


  22. Spawny Get says:

    Hannan saying that the same old Foreign Office Grandees have to go. Theycannot negotiate the future. TFT

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    The irony of Corbyn is that he was long known to be an outer, he just caved to the labour party leadership view that he had to push for remain. He got the result he was known to want, but he’s being pilloried for not getting the Labour vote out for ‘in’.


  24. Spawny Get says:

    Really glad that there’s no talk of ignoring the vote or questioing it’s validity beyond a gesture. It’s being taken as a flat OUT. Except by some twonks on the margins.

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  25. Spawny Get says:

    The Corbyn no confidence

    The BBC reports Margaret Hodge and Ann Coffey have tabled a no confidence motion in Jeremy Corbyn, which could be voted on on Tuesday night. The PLP might be able to topple him but how will they win round the membership? The problem with Blairites organising a putsch against Jez is they were the ones out of touch with Labour voters…



  26. Spawny Get says:

    Speaking of twonks

    Nicholas Wilson • an hour ago
    There is a petition on the Government website to have a second referendum if the vote for change is less than 60% and the turnout less than 75%.

    They have 100,000- signatures.

    All they need is another 16 million, and it will be game over.


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  27. Spawny Get says:

    Mo’ Twonks

    Pontius • an hour ago
    Just for the fun of it listening to the ghastly James O’Brien on LBC – truely unbelievable stuff. This, apparently is “a terrible blow to democracy’. Moron being interviewed to much agreement says the French are already putting into force new border arrangements to keep us out. Didn’t seem to realise we are IN for 2 more years min, and our border arrangements are bi-laterals NOT EU. The lying scaremongers continue …

    chrisjones2 Pontius • 37 minutes ago
    A witless metrosexual chattering to other witless metrosexuals and scaring the froth off their Cappuchinos

    in strong contrast

    jamesbarn • 41 minutes ago
    Now if there is an early election lots of remain MPs who ignored their constituants will hopefully be for the chop and those that survive will at last understand that they are here to serve US not themselves or their careers

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  28. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Congrats, Spawny and the UK. I’ll be watching with great interest. Good luck to you.

    Regarding the Scots, I can love ’em or hate ’em as the occasion requires, being Scots Irish myself.

    So, is this revolt personal, or can anyone join in?

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  29. Spawny Get says:


    I think most of us are perfectly happy to reflect the attitudes of the individual Scots that we meet. Hate me? right back at you. Looking for common cause? Come right on in, friend.


  30. Spawny Get says:

    The tears of the wankerati left are frigging delicious.
    Polly Toynbee? Just go away. FO. The people have spoken.

    The usual rage that reality went the other way.

    Soubry can FRO too. Steam coming out of her ears.


  31. Spawny Get says:

    This was the day the British people defied their jailers

    There were two referendums on Thursday. The first was on membership of the EU. The second was on the British establishment. Leave won both, and the world will never be the same again.

    It’s impossible to overstate how remarkable this victory is. Twenty years ago, Euroscepticism was a backbench Tory rebellion and a political cult. It was a dispute located firmly on the Right with little appeal to Labour voters. It took Ukip to drag it into the centre of political life – given momentum by the issue of immigration – and slowly it has emerged as a lightning rod for anti-establishment activism.

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Vote for this guy, not the crook

    “Basically, they took back their country and that’s a great thing”

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  33. SFC Ton says:

    Asa proud Ulster Scot I am fairly certain all the Scots with balls left a long time ago. Mostly to escape the English bastards boots

    I read somewhere that there are more “ameircans” of Scot decant then there are Scots in Scotland
    which I also think is true of several White ethnics

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    The English only scraped it 55:45. The rot is that deep. Time to start gentle pressure to get immigrants to go home. There are many people here that couldn’t vote in the referendum, but can when it comes to normal elections. Time to thin them out. The country is more than full, it’s bursting at the seams.

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    As long as ‘the bodies’ are figurative…the video is a great reflection of the people vs the elites right now.

    We only won 52:48, but if the remainiacs hadn’t had access to the state and all its institutions? And had them all screaming fear? On top of the big corporations relying on bending over the common man. The result would have been much stronger. Perhaps the meedja know that? Perhaps that’s why they’re not whining about the size of the result(?) Leave is a given all across the interviews on the telly.


  36. SFC Ton says:

    lol @ figurative

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  37. SFC Ton says:

    the big business point reminded me of something that has been on my mind lately

    I own a couple of business; as a small-mid size business owner, I am happy to hire folks at a good wage for our area. Sure I plan on making money off them, but I want them to make their share off me.

    Contrast that to the big outfits that want to replace humans or pay them nothing

    large business are generally evil affairs

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    ‘Figurative’? You know what I mean. I do not wish to give ammunition to enemies overly easily. Those determined to take offense can bugger off (figuratively, or not). The state of denial shown in that video is very real even now in some people here (here in the UK, that is).

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    ‘Business’ Yeah. Big business is using immigration to crush wages. Then using the state benefits to top up those wages. While paying benefits to the unemployed locals.

    It’s not a simple economic argument, but that plan sucks for the people. The people have spoken.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    happy daze in the Euro-Bunker

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  41. Yoda says:

    Trump Statement Regarding British Referendum on E.U. Membership

    The people of the United Kingdom have exercised the sacred right of all free peoples. They have declared their independence from the European Union, and have voted to reassert control over their own politics, borders and economy. A Trump Administration pledges to strengthen our ties with a free and independent Britain, deepening our bonds in commerce, culture and mutual defense. The whole world is more peaceful and stable when our two countries – and our two peoples – are united together, as they will be under a Trump Administration.

    Come November, the American people will have the chance to re-declare their independence. Americans will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration and foreign policies that put our citizens first. They will have the chance to reject today’s rule by the global elite, and to embrace real change that delivers a government of, by and for the people. I hope America is watching, it will soon be time to believe in America again.


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  42. Yoda says:

    This vote is of immense help to Donald Trump if he is smart enough to seize it properly and doesn’t bobble the ball. Many, probably most, Americans feel exactly the same as their brothers and sisters Across the Pond. They despise the same elites and want to save their country. Trump, now fortuitously in Scotland (I know — they voted Remain, but not in the numbers they were supposed to), should show his support. The UK is America’s closest ally. We should be the first to extend a hand, negotiate free trade, etc., and get her rolling again.

    That most elite of presidents Barack Obama who opened his morally narcissistic mouth supporting the Remain side and warning the British people, as he is wont to do, that there would be “consequences” if they voted to leave the EU is in no position to do anything, even if he wanted to. And he doesn’t.

    Hillary Clinton is so elitist she practically defines the term. She was probably up all night figuring out what to do about the situation. I have a suggestion — move to Brussels.


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  43. Yoda says:

    The vote for Brexit (52 percent of Britons cast ballots to leave the EU) is a vote for sovereignty and self-determination. Britain will no longer be subject to European legislation, with Britain’s Parliament retaking control. British judges will no longer be overruled by the European Court of Justice, and British businesses will be liberated from mountains of EU regulations, which have undermined economic liberty.


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  44. Spawny Get says:

    Let’s hope that many of these “I am so disappointed” children get to grow up and work out why last night was the luckiest of their lives.

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  45. Yoda says:

    Odds of Jeremy Clarkson being the next PM what they would be?

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  46. Spawny Get says:

    Jezza cucked himself out for his real-life friend and close neighbour DoomedDave. So not the next PM. But his career is acting the clown, so I doubt there’re any grudges out there (except from the PC shysters who hated him anyway)


  47. Yoda says:


    The last red flag for those who don’t want Trump to be president is that you can only trust the polls so much. Just about everybody who’s anybody was in favor of staying in the EU — every living prime minister, the leader of Britain’s two major parties, Obama and the leader of every other important ally, academics, business leaders, and celebrities — but a majority of everyone else said no… The polls before the referendum were close, and tightening, but most Britons went to bed Thursday night with the expectation that they would still be a part of Europe when they woke up. If the best polls got it wrong, it’s possible that Britons were telling pollsters what all the cool kids were saying, not how they intended to vote

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  48. Spawny Get says:

    Do you want to resume normal posts tonight? I’ll make short posts if news warrants it, but I have no idea how fast things will move. The focus of the blog shouldn’t be UK politics, certainly not long term.

    I look forward to an American driving the posts over your upcoming election. I’m almost as keen to see Hillary not make it it as I was that the EU fail here…almost


  49. Spawny Get says:

    The pollsters found exactly what their owners wanted them to find. They were obsessed by the metropolitan wankerati. Neither the media nor the politicians en masse were listening to the people. They shut down the issues of the proles by screaming la-la-la-can’t-hear-you and raciss at them at every occasion. The people just got bloody-minded

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    Do you Americans have the concept of ‘bloody-minded’?
    Take it for a spin, you may like it.


  51. Yoda says:

    Are Western women responsible for provoking Muslim men into raping them? Some Europeans certainly seem to think so.


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  52. Yoda says:

    Farm Boy resume posts tonight he will

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  53. Ame says:

    so enjoying seeing our Great Glorious Patriarch HAPPY!!!

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  54. Yoda says:

    Working families voted for this they did

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    Thanks Ame. May you guys have a similarly entertaining November. It was fraught for a while there though


  56. Yoda says:

    HAIFA, Israel, June 23 (UPI) — An Israeli elementary school apologized to parents after DVDs distributed to sixth grade students were found to contain pornographic videos.

    The school in Haifa sent a text message to parents warning them not to allow their children to watch the discs, which were supposed to depict scenes from a recent graduation party.

    About 90 students received the DVDs, which were prepared by a contractor, as part of the school’s celebration of national “Hug Day” in Israel.


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  57. Spawny Get says:

    House builders’ stocks most hit in the markets…yeah. No unlimited immigration fucking us over means less desperation to build shoddy houses.

    Stocks down only 3.15% over the week…the hype was hypey

    Continental stocks down far more.

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  58. Spawny Get says:

    In shock news…”Young people were the most gullible voters”

    People who knew better didn’t fall for the lies, you suckers. Shut up, grow up, pay attention and learn how things work.

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  59. Spawny Get says:

    Re Spiked
    Gary Younge – who? shut up till you know better
    Owen Jones – mouthy, lefty gobshite but with a new, tenuous link to reality?
    Matthew d’Ancona – fuck yeah
    Zoe Williams – try some butt-hurt creme you precious lefty champagne socialist wanktard
    Diane Abbot – ‘my ex-lover offers hope to mongs as deluded as I am’ shocker

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  60. Yoda says:

    Dance a jig with Tarn the Glorious Patriarch should

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    Smart woman

    This is just more evidence of the same trend. Journalists I spoke to said they aren’t allowed to write about this sort of thing. If they write anything that discussed the Brexit, or the exit part of the vote and the sentiment for it, that was, they said, largely censored from the mainstream media. So, maybe it’s no surprise that our media over here was unaware there was so much sentiment on that side. It’s being censored from the news. If you write off the narrative on that topic and others, in that country, just like in this country, they want to drum you out of the mainstream and paint you as controversial. Maybe that’s why people didn’t have the information to understand what was going on.

    I think journalists here, some of them, have a tendency now to listen to one another and kind of believe what they read, rather than do the critical analytical thinking themselves. Rather than understanding, I mean, part of the art is figuring out who to listen to and, based on history and track record and good judgment, whose probably got the best pulse of what’s going on, and also getting out of your own skin with what you hope happens to be able to see what’s really happening. A lot of people kind of hope for one thing and listen to each other, and they ignore what’s really going on.

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  62. Cill says:

    Yoda at 5:17 pm

    There are 2 types of Brit: the whinging bawling Brit and the stoical bulldog Brit. Both types were very much in evidence on 23rd June.

    For at least as long as I’ve been alive, the whingers have had it all their own way. Brexit might just be an indication that the bulldogs are at long last reasserting themselves. At least 30 years overdue, but better late than never.

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  63. SFC Ton says:

    We don’t want to give them ammo and they gives us raped girls in Rotherham, mas shootings, train bombings etc etc

    seems like we need to be giving them a certain part of the ammunition


  64. Yoda says:

    Winston a bull dog Brit he was

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, yeah. That was too frigging close for my liking. And too long delayed.


  66. SFC Ton says:

    in Islam women do jail time for provoking the rape

    I pitched an….. proposal to a European news outfit to aaaaaaaaa liberate one of their lady reporters who was gang raped in _______. Apparently liberating the lady was more heinous then the rape and jail time combined


  67. Spawny Get says:

    Ton, ever heard the phrases
    “Softly, softly catchee monkey”
    “Take your jumps one at a time”

    I’m not a WN. There will be no WN here. A nation of traditional British culture is acceptable to the vast majority.

    PC culture and SJWism and misandric traditionalism are embedded everywhere through the institutions. That’s what I want undone.

    Should we get that done, we can talk about the next thing. Should either of us still be around at that time. I’m pushing old scrote status, I may not get there with you…(kind of thing).

    We just survived Dunkirk, you’re talking about the conquest of Berlin.

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  68. SFC Ton says:

    folks have the memory of goldfish
    The actual split with the EU is probably a while off. Folks will adjust and the “market” will return to its normal level of manipulation

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  69. Spawny Get says:

    Anyway, just putting on my most Patriarchal of t-shirts and…

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Conquest? what else would the Ton talk about?

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  71. Spawny Get says:

    Ton, have a little faith. Yesterday our elders and betters had us bent over. Today we kicked them in the nuts.

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  72. Cill says:

    too frigging close for my liking

    It was a nail biter all right. However, I think in real terms it was a crushing defeat of “Remain”. It should be obvious to everyone that, on an even playing field, Leave would have won by a country mile.

    I think some of us made this point here already. To repeat (more because I’m lazy than big-headed) a comment I made during the nail-biting stage on the other post:

    “Remain” is the Establishment with all the advantages of a taxpayer-funded bureaucracy at its disposal, and with far more money available for their campaign. If the final vote is close to 50/50, Leave are the real winners. It’s like a race between a man in running shoes and a man in gum boots. If they finish in a dead heat, the one in gumboots is the one you’d back in an even contest.

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  73. Cill says:

    Ton Folks will adjust and the “market” will return to its normal level of manipulation

    That’s the likelihood. I hope the bulldogs get some sort of grip on their future. They’ve given themselves a chance. Fucking hell I hope they take it. Hope against hope.

    They need to go in and grip the bawlers by the… (I was going to say “balls” but let’s say “groins” so the bulldog can see what to aim for).

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  74. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, yeah.
    I doubt anyone outside of the UK would appreciate the relentless push of ProjectFear. Other countries buckled under previous versions.
    I tried to sleep at 10:45ish. Farage had signalled defeat. Game over, man. Game over.
    Happened to wake up in time for first returns. Saw the surprise at Sunderland and Newcastle…Game on. Two hours later…maybe, just maybe. Three thirty I was getting confident. It’s mostly on last night’s thread.

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  75. Spawny Get says:

    We’re waiting for UKIP, the Tories and Labour to sort themselves out. See who finally fucking gets it. Even now! Many aren’t getting it. Then the EU negotiations…long road ahead.

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  76. Cill says:

    Great day yesterday. I haven’t enjoyed myself so much since Sonya Davies caught her tit in the wringer.


  77. Spawny Get says:

    Lot of people in the pub with smiles and similar stories…

    Why shouldn’t kids vote? One woman saying how her daughter told her she expected an invasion if we voted out. Mother was mightily unimpressed with her daughter. Kidz donet kno not nuffink. No wonder them remainiacs wanted kids to vote, the young voted 3:1 for in. Imagine if the 16 and 17 year olds could vote as well. This was close. 75% of kids are retarded and/or indoctrinated.

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  78. SFC Ton says:

    The best time to kick someone is when they are down

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  79. Cill says:



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  80. Spawny Get says:

    And the media are pushing the kidz betrayed by crumbliez line. They need sacking.

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  81. Spawny Get says:

    The saving grace is that the EU wants us gone, but wants our trade. Could highly expedite the exit negotiations.

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  82. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, any local reaction?


  83. Cill says:

    6:30 am here, a bit early for news and current affairs on TV. Should be something in the press though. I’ll have a look.

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  84. Cill says:

    “UK’s Brexit referendum: The vote that shook the world” (NZ Herald)

    Britain’s Prime Minister David Cameron resigned last night hours after the UK shocked the world by voting to leave the European Union.

    The historic vote, which reflected the fraying of the European political and economic union, was followed by financial turmoil as markets took fright and the pound dived 10 per cent.

    Gold, an asset favoured in times of panic, climbed US$100 an ounce.

    With the Leave campaign securing 52 per cent of the vote, Mr Cameron gave an emotional speech outside 10 Downing Street to announce that he would be stepping down.

    He intends to stay in the job until October when a new Prime Minister will be chosen to “captain the ship”. His wife Samantha was in tears next to him.

    “I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months but I do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination,” he said.

    The betting agency Paddy Power installed former London mayor Boris Johnson as their 11/8 favourite to replace Mr Cameron. Mr Johnson was followed in the betting by Theresa May and Michael Gove.

    The British exit – “Brexit” – campaign passed the winning post in the EU referendum around 6am in Britain (5pm NZT).

    UK Independence Party leader and Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage declared it to be “independence day” as the Leave campaign racked up votes across England and Wales – defying the verdict of London, Scotland and most of the big cities.

    While England voted overwhelmingly for Brexit, Scotland and Northern Ireland backed Remain.

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  85. Cill says:

    Prime Minister John Key said it had been “a privilege” to work alongside Mr Cameron, who he called “a friend.” Mr Key said the impact of the vote on New Zealand’s trade arrangements with Britain and the EU would be limited.

    “We remain committed to the launch of formal negotiations on an EU FTA, and will be working with the UK as they go through the process of leaving the EU to put in place new arrangements,” Mr Key said.

    European Council leader Donald Tusk led the stunned continent’s reaction to Brexit insisting: “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”.

    Mr Tusk said Britain’s “historic” vote should not provoke “hysterical reactions” and urged the rest of the bloc to “keep our unity as 27”.

    But Europe’s far-right parties hailed the vote as a victory for their own anti-immigrant and anti-EU stance and vowed to push for similar referendums in their own countries. The Dutch anti-immigration leader Geert Wilders called for a referendum on the Netherlands’ EU membership.

    “I think it’s historic,” he told Dutch radio.

    France’s Front National leader Marine Le Pen said: “Like a lot of French people, I’m very happy that the British people held on and made the right choice.

    Mr Farage said the day would go down in history as “our independence day”.

    In a remark that could prove controversial after Labour MP Jo Cox was shot dead last week, Mr Farage said the country was separating from the EU “without a single bullet being fired”.

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  86. Cill says:

    Note: the NZ Herald is typical left-wing MSM

    John Key is Prime Minister of NZ at the head of the National Party, the equivalent of the UK’s Conservative Party or the USA’s Republicans.

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  87. SFC Ton says:

    I don’t think anyone under 35 should vote

    Local reaction? here in rural NC? no one but me seems to give a shit one way or the other. Not hostility so, but we mind our business and stay out of others

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  88. SFC Ton says:

    John Key is Prime Minister of NZ at the head of the National Party, the equivalent of the UK’s Conservative Party or the USA’s Republicans.
    so is he 80 pounds of shit in a 40 pound sack like the Republican presdinets have all been?

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  89. Cill says:

    By “equivalent of the Republicans” I meant “the more conservative of the 2 main parties”.

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  90. Yoda says:

    This morning, a crowd of angry liberals (“Remain” supporters) besieged the home of Boris Johnson, one of the leaders of the Brexit campaign and likely Britain’s next Prime Minister:

    Boris Johnson is the bookies’ favourite to be the next Prime Minister but the popular political figure needed police protection to get out of his house this morning.

    He emerged from his house to angry chants of “scum, scum, scum” from onlookers.

    His efforts to say “good morning” were drowned out by the heckles and jeers as he made his way to the waiting cab in a blaze of camera flashes, followed closely by an aide.


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  91. Yoda says:

    Suggest that we need a dictatorship apparently they do.

    England in 2016 is a divided, uncertain country. It is difficult to believe what has happened here in the past several months. A relatively small, relatively unknown group of activists, gamblers and egocentrics managed to incite and drive a country out of Europe against the will of the prime minister and against the advice of economists, friends and allies around the world.

    The Europe that woke up this morning is a weaker one. It will take years before Britain’s exit from the EU is finally completed. Until that time, the Continent faces a period of uncertainty and tumult, as does Britain.

    Brexit is a democratic decision that cannot be changed. Now Europe needs to learn a lesson from it — it has no other choice.


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  92. Yoda says:

    The female on the left looks like a mannequin she does


  93. Cill says:

    The one on the right looks like a peeled shrimp.


  94. Yoda says:

    Voters in France, Italy and the Netherlands are demanding their own votes on European Union membership and the euro, as the continent faces a “contagion” of referendums.

    EU leaders fear a string of copycat polls could tear the organisation apart, as leaders come under pressure to emulate David Cameron and hold votes.

    It came as German business leaders handed a considerable boost to the Leave campaign by saying it would be “very, very foolish” to deny the UK a free trade deal after Brexit.


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  95. Yoda says:

    That confusion over what Brexit might mean for the country’s economy appears to have been reflected across the United Kingdom on Thursday. Google reported sharp upticks in searches not only related to the ballot measure but also about basic questions concerning the implications of the vote. At about 1 a.m. Eastern time, about eight hours after the polls closed, Google reported that searches for “what happens if we leave the EU” had more than tripled…

    [D]espite the all-out attempts by either side to court voters, Britons were not only mystified by what would happen if they left the E.U.— many seemed not to even know what the European Union is.



  96. Cill says:

    Yoda links 10:37 to 10:40 pm

    “A relatively* small, relatively unknown group of activists, gamblers and egocentrics managed to incite and drive a country out of Europe against the will of the prime minister and against the advice of economists, friends and allies around the world.”
    [*relative to what, the population of China?]

    “Boris Johnson… emerged from his house to angry chants of “scum, scum, scum”

    “Old people are giving us a future we don’t want”

    Bloody hell, anyone would think Earth is about to be obliterated by an asteroid.

    These are the lefto-feminist, ultra-fragile brats, used to having everything go their own way. Grow a spine FFS.

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    It’s all very, very sad


  98. Spawny Get says:

    17 minutes ago
    Lefties really are dumb. I just heard about one guy who thought an online poll on Facebook was the actual referendum and another who was told if he didn’t vote that counted as a vote for remain so he stayed at home


  99. Yoda says:

    Important Lindsey Lohhan opinion this is,

    profound and philosophical (kind of).

    One thing for sure the #referendum results are very close, but also showing a difference of opinion across #Britain

    — Lindsay Lohan (@lindsaylohan) June 24, 2016
    She was quite concerned with the performance of the Pound in international markets, and how long the Pound might take to recover from an exit from the EU.

    @Independent why? prove the UK will not trigger anger by allowing (sunderland) to lower the UK pound – THIS IMPACT WILL CONTROL ALL MARGINS

    — Lindsay Lohan (@lindsaylohan) June 23, 2016
    good luck with the pound.. will take you about 15 years to get it back up #REMAIN instead

    — Lindsay Lohan (@lindsaylohan) June 24, 2016
    She also seemed incredibly concerned for the well-being of average, everyday UK residents:

    #Remain small shops should pay more attention

    — Lindsay Lohan (@lindsaylohan) June 23, 2016
    @BBCBreaking @BBCWorld @BBCNews thank you for explaining where #Sunderland AND #Swindon ARE… #Remain #EUref

    — Lindsay Lohan (@lindsaylohan) June 23, 2016
    i love the #shetlands @BBCNews thank goodness we have pure hearted people our side #besmart #ShetlandsVSSunderland #BringItOn

    — Lindsay Lohan (@lindsaylohan) June 24, 2016
    She even took on former London mayor and Brexit activist Boris Johnson.

    @BorisJohnson #Trump what discussions are you having?

    — Lindsay Lohan (@lindsaylohan) June 24, 2016


  100. SFC Ton says:

    By “equivalent of the Republicans” I meant “the more conservative of the 2 main parties”.
    Then you my friend don’t know much about Republicans or the Republican party

    It was founded as a progressive party


  101. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Maybe Donald Trump is right. What this could mean is that the citizens are thinking politically for themselves and not letting the political class do it for them. That has to be a little scary for the political class.
    Curious that Hillary’s first tweet would pay lip service to working families. For her, it’s too late to do anything of substance.

    Spawny, it’s a long time till the second Tuesday in November. By then, you will be so sick of politics.
    In the meanwhile, Cill called the Newcastle results as the turnaround. Drink some Newcastle Brown Ale? Hell, it’s even popular in California.

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  102. Cill says:

    Then you my friend don’t know much about Republicans or the Republican party
    The Democratic Party is more conservative than the Republican?

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  103. SFC Ton says:

    Neither is conservative these days though the Repubs attempt to play lip service to conservative minded voters. However they never actually conserve anything and have lost most of those votes

    Way back in the day Democrats where the conservative party; the Repubs 1st candidate was linclon who destroyed the constitution and the notion of limited federal power so he could transfer tax money from the South to bankers and railroads up north


  104. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am so used to Ton being deliberately provocative and, consequently, losing my temper over it, that I had to look a second time. The Republican Party in the late nineteenth century is a completely different animal to today’s While the terms radical and Republican are mutually exclusive today, they weren’t then. To add to that, it was the election of a Republican, Abraham Lincoln, that provoked the American Civil War.


  105. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Sorry, I hadn’t seen Ton’s response before posting my comment.


  106. Cill says:

    The National Party of NZ is the equivalent of whichever of them (Republican or Democratic) is more conservative today.

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  107. SFC Ton says:

    Which again is neither

    You cannot point to anything the Republicans have ever conserved


  108. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    You’re all right.
    I would like to tease Molly about exporting super premium ice cream to the UK but, she has been quiet. Is everything alright?

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  109. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Teddy Roosevelt started the US Parks system. That is, literally, conservation.

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  110. SFC Ton says:

    according to the US Constitution the federal govt is not supposed to own any land not needed to collect tariffs, build military forts etc so the park system concept is a leftist/ progressive idea and helped destroy private property rights

    you are atypical leftist Fuzzie and understand original intent poorly or not at all


  111. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think that, in your case, politics is irrelevant to being able to make contrary statements to provoke a comment war.
    Would you please stop? There is no upside to this.


  112. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post


  113. Cill says:

    Definition of “conservative” https://www.google.co.nz/?gws_rd=ssl#q=definition+%22conservative%22

    (in a political context) favouring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially conservative ideas.

    The NZ National Party is more conservative than the NZ Labour Party, OK? That’s as far as this conversation needs to go.

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  114. This article by CNN about the parallels of brexit and the rise of similar sentiments in the US does slam Trump a few times but also seems to give him some (rare by the press) credit for “getting it.” More talk about what he’s getting is a good development, perhaps the winds are changing? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/06/24/politics/us-election-brexit-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html

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  115. SFC Ton says:

    Frankly Fuzzie no
    and don’t go to visiting my intentions. If you didn’t hold such silly and naive political ideas you would not need constant correcting

    Given Cills dictionary definition setting up a national park system is not politically conservative and neither is the Republican party as it supports all manner of postilions that limit peoples private ownership, ablity to engage in commerce and did near on 0 in the culture wars, and supports a lot of non conservative positions. Dalrock outlines that pretty well in how the support the intentional destruction of the american family, but they also support the destruction of the american culture through immigration and the expansion of the federal govt in more ways then I can count, which always erodes personal freedom


  116. Spawny Get says:

    Rumours are that the EU is getting very desperate to give us the bum’s rush.
    start the GTFO legal process ‘invoking article 50’

    the nobs in the UK want to delay so that political structures can be created. Okay, can see their point. But I want out. And they want us out.


  117. Spawny Get says:

    If you ever wondered what the term ‘luvvies’ means…fill yer boots

    made back in the days when the term was born


  118. SFC Ton says:

    How does it benefit the EU to give y’all the book sooner rather then later?

    Only thing I can think of is its an attempt to influence the other nations who want a vote on staying in the EU or walking


  119. Spawny Get says:

    We won’t STFU and back down + we’re a bad influence on the other children…so like many bullies faced down by someone ready for them, they want to be able to ignore us.

    And they intend to try and use us as a lesson for the others…Bring it the fuck on. Get rid of that spineless cunt Dave, arm Nigel with the proverbial baseball bat and send him in. I’d happily go down in battle rather than die on my knees inside the EU.

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  120. SFC Ton says:

    Freedom, Firepower and Fuckyeah!

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  121. Yoda says:

    Wow, another major European vote that came out differently from the polls. I have long been suspicious of turning an economic union into a political union that worked to erase sovereignty. People like having sovereignty and if it’s going to be removed from them, they want to have a say in it, yet decisions have been taken out of people’s hands and put in the hands of unelected elites and bureaucrats. That’s got to irritate a lot of people and that is what we saw last night in the Brexit vote. I think that the headline to this Carrie Lukas piece sums it up. “German Leadership Aghast at a Brexit It Helped Cause”.

    One of the more thoughtful commentaries today is from Torsten Krauel in the right-of-center Die Welt. Krauel asks whether German Chancellor Merkel is partially to blame for the Brexit and concludes her asylum policy almost certainly played a major role. And indeed, the spectacle of Germany unilaterally deciding to change the face and future of the European Union by announcing Berlin had opened the doors to all comers – regardless of the wishes of or the impact this would have on other EU states – has been a powerful symbol of elite disconnect with the concerns of average Europeans and an uncomfortable reminder that Germany has come to dominate the union. Krauel also points out Dover, the British end of the Channel Tunnel to the continent, voted 60 percent to leave. Maybe this has something to do with the thousands of North African migrants seeking to storm the tunnel and cross to England?

    While loathe to admit it, Germans at some level suspect their country’s role in the discontent in Britain. Speaking to German friends over the past several years, it’s been difficult not to come away with the sense many view the EU as an extension of Germany policy and as a respectable outlet for German nationalism that has been suppressed since the end of World War II. A new path to German greatness, if you will, camouflaged by warm and fuzzy words about “Europeaness” and immune to complaints of skeptics, all of whom immediately are labeled as right-wing extremists – the kiss of death in German politics.

    For me, one of the takeaways from the referendum is the reminder that people care deeply about things other than pure economic interest. On the train this morning, I listened to a left-wing British woman complaining bitterly about the stupidity of her fellow citizens. Her points were all about lost EU subsidies for construction projects and the indignity of having to use the “non-EU” line at passport control when traveling to the continent (I’ll save a spot for you!). It seemed not to have occurred to her that more abstract concepts such as democratic legitimacy, self rule, and national identity matter to people as goods in themselves….

    The EU as an economic project was a good idea. But only European elites signed off on ever closer political union and de facto rule by unelected Eurocrats in Brussels. These elites weren’t interested in making their case democratically, preferring to ignore popular concerns while demonizing any opposition to their supranational project. The British electorate has now pushed back. Will the EU learn the right lessons or will it double down on political integration? I suspect the latter, but time will tell.

    Look for the rise of other exit parties in other countries.

    The other thing I expect to see is the refutation of all the doom-and-gloom predictions for Britain’s economy. They can make an economic deal with the EU as Norway did. They can negotiate access to the single market without having to follow the rules of the EU.
    Norway’s consumers and businesses enjoy access to the single market, but are not obliged to comply with many EU rules, including those on justice, agriculture and fishing.


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  122. Yoda says:

    “This referendum campaign, as I wrote a few days ago, was not fought on the issues that are normally central to British elections. Identity politics trumped economics; arguments about ‘independence’ and ‘sovereignty’ defeated arguments about British influence and importance. The advice of once-trusted institutions was ignored. Elected leaders were swept aside. If that kind of transformation can take place in the U.K., then it can happen in the United States, too. We have been warned.”



  123. Yoda says:

    n this context, the slogan ‘take back control’ was a piece of political genius. It worked on every level between the macroeconomic and the psychoanalytic. Think of what it means on an individual level to rediscover control. To be a person without control (for instance to suffer incontinence or a facial tick) is to be the butt of cruel jokes, to be potentially embarrassed in public. It potentially reduces one’s independence. What was so clever about the language of the Leave campaign was that it spoke directly to this feeling of inadequacy and embarrassment, then promised to eradicate it. The promise had nothing to do with economics or policy, but everything to do with the psychological allure of autonomy and self-respect. Farrage’s political strategy was to take seriously communities who’d otherwise been taken for granted for much of the past 50 years.



  124. Yoda says:

    Beyond that, there is an interesting development, which to date, has been under the radar of most international political observers, but which now has been given a green light by yesterday’s and today’s events. This is the growing movement for closer ties between Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the UK, the so-called CANZUK nations. A Change.org petition calling for bureaucracy-free movement between those 4 nations recently gained over 100,000 signatures in a few months without any financial backing or big names in support. Boris Johnson, the flamboyant ex-mayor of London, and now victorious leader of the Leave movement in the Brexit referendum, has endorsed CANZUK free movement as a near term goal.


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  125. Yoda says:

    I’m old enough to remember when history had a side. History, you see, had chosen to progress toward an international order that de-emphasized international sovereignty, elevated a bureaucratic and technocratic elite, and sought to solve international conflict through a combination of moral and economic pressure. Nations caused wars, so nationalism (and even patriotism) had to be set aside. Democracy unleashed bigotry, so “the people” mattered mainly when they agreed with the elite. It was a system that worked remarkably well for the international upper class. Men and women dedicated to commerce enjoyed unprecedented access to international markets. Activists dedicated to social justice could engineer their societies without ever truly facing the accountability of the ballot box. The logic of the system was self-proving. It would triumph through the sheer force of its virtue.


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  126. Yoda says:

    For a long time, Britons who wanted their country to leave the European Union were regarded almost as mentally ill by those who wanted it to stay. The leavers didn’t have an opinion; they had a pathology. Since one doesn’t argue with pathology, it wasn’t necessary for the remainers to answer the leavers with more than sneers and derision.

    Even after the vote, the attitude persists. Those who voted to leave are described as, ipso facto, small-minded, xenophobic, and fearful of the future. Those who voted to stay are described as, ipso facto, open-minded, cosmopolitan, and forward-looking. The BBC itself suggested as much on its website. In short, the desire to leave was a return to the insularity that resulted in the famous—though apocryphal—newspaper headline: fog in the channel: continent cut off.



  127. Cill says:

    I’m practicing my Americanisms… and hey man, the post title needs some editing. How ’bout this for size:


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  128. Yoda says:

    Could make the title Yodish one might.
    “Done gone blown the doors off you have”

    [Cill’s note – May I be so bold as to edit this Yodish:


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  129. Cill says:

    Everywhere I look on the news this morning I see caterwauling cry-babies bemoaning Brexit. They are even rapping about it. Shit! Time for an injection of sanity.

    JS Bach, genius:


  130. Yoda says:

    Former Conservative MP Louise Mensch cited President Obama sticking his beak in a British issue over the then-looming vote over whether the nation would remain in the European Union. Yesterday Britain made their choice known: they want out. And Mensch noted that once Obama decided to overreach and tell British voters that they should remain in the EU, support for the Leave camp increased. In the end, it seems to have been a contributing factor in the UK’s decision to say goodbye to the massive political project, long criticized, among other things, for usurping sovereignty among its member nations.

    That point was referenced during the coverage of the vote last night by Fox Business’ Stuart Varney, who said that President Obama planned on calling Prime Minister David Cameron at some point today over the results, quipping that he’s probably going to apologize for “ruining the vote.”

    In short, one could argue that Obama stepped in it—and it’s not the first time the president’s mouth has cost him or his allies politically. This is one of many failures brought on by Obama’s arrogance that his learned diction can sway minds. It certainly hasn’t worked on the Russians, who view him (rightly) as a lightweight. That’s how they’re able to buzz our warships with fighter jets and annex Crimea from Ukraine. It’s how Syria is still a mess. It’s how the security concerns over absorbing 10,000 Syrian refugees, some of which could be infiltrated by ISIS, haven’t subsided



  131. Yoda says:

    And the last decade or so has indeed seen Britain become a highly sought-after destination for less-skilled European immigrants, thanks to the structure of the U.K.’s economy and its public policies. Recently, Martin Ruhs, an expert on international labor migration based at Oxford University, argued that free movement across the European Union is greatly complicated by the fact that different member states have different approaches to labor market regulation and the welfare state. First, countries with lightly regulated labor markets are generally more attractive to less-skilled immigrants than countries with tightly regulated labor markets, because high minimum wages and rigid limits on work hours tend to price less-skilled workers, native- or foreign-born, out of jobs. This is why there are so many less-skilled, non-European immigrants desperate to enter Britain from France—a country no less prosperous or safe than Britain— where it is far harder for immigrants to get on the labor market’s bottom


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  132. Yoda says:

    Parliament is required to debate any petition that draws more than 100,000 signatures. They’ve, er, met that goal. As I write this, they’re over two million total and are adding something like 100,000 new signatures per hour.

    Consider the online hype over the petition part of the “Regrexit” narrative that sore losers on the Remain side have been pushing for the past 48 hours. If only they’d taken the threat from Leave more seriously; if only they’d anticipated the hit to world markets; if only they’d known that those damned dastardly old people would vote en masse to split, why, Remain would have won easily. How about one more crack at it now that a plummeting pound and nonstop media doomsaying have pointed fencesitters’ minds in the “right” direction?

    Let’s answer that question with a question. If Remain had won narrowly, would there be a whisper of a ghost of a prayer of a chance that Parliament would give Leave voters another crack? No? Then there you go.


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  133. Yoda says:

    The unimaginable has happened. The U.K. has voted to leave the European Union…and investors around the world are in full-fledged panic mode. Could this be the beginning of the end for the EU? And even the start of another financial crisis like 2008?

    The Brexit vote could even lead to a slow unraveling of the European Union as we know it. Other EU nations may now start to wonder if the monetary union experiment has failed.



  134. Yoda says:

    All the Galaxy loves Yodish they do

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  135. Spawny Get says:

    The EU is fcuked anyway. Greece is on the brink, Italy is too. If Italy goes, so do France and Germany. Deutsche Bank ist gefockt.

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  136. SFC Ton says:

    The Regrexit seems like a simple minded attempt at propaganda and Machiavellian politics by the remain voters

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  137. Yoda says:

    The inability of those elites to grapple with the rich world’s populist moment was in full display on social media last night. Journalists and academics seemed to feel that they had not made it sufficiently clear that people who oppose open borders are a bunch of racist rubes who couldn’t count to 20 with their shoes on, and hence will believe any daft thing they’re told. Given how badly this strategy had just failed, this seemed a strange time to be doubling down. But perhaps, like the fellow I once saw lose a packet by betting on 17 for 20 straight turns of the roulette wheel, they reasoned that the recent loss actually makes a subsequent victory more likely, since the number has to come up sometime.

    Or perhaps they were just unable to grasp what I noted in a column last week: that nationalism and place still matter, and that elites forget this at their peril. A lot people do not view their country the way some elites do: as though the nation were something like a rental apartment — a nice place to live, but if there are problems, or you just fancy a change, you’ll happily swap it for a new one.

    In many ways, members of the global professional class have started to identify more with each other than they have with the fellow residents of their own countries. Witness the emotional meltdown many American journalists have been having over Brexit.


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  138. Yoda says:

    Marmite important it is,

    A lot of my professional colleagues seemed to, and the dominant tone framed this as a blow against the enlightened “us” and the beautiful world we are building, struck by a plague of morlocks who had crawled out of their hellish subterranean world to attack our impending utopia. You could also, I’d argue, see this sentiment in the reaction of global markets, which was grossly out of proportion to the actual economic damage that is likely to be done by Brexit. I mean, yes, the British pound took a pounding, and no surprise. But why did this so roil markets for the Mexican peso? Did traders fear that the impact on the global marmite supply was going to unsettle economies everywhere?


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  139. Spawny Get says:

    I have been asked what my reflections are on the current state of the BREXIT thing…tonight I are mostly going to sleep on it. And I wish that anyone…anyone…got that reference. It’s a hard world being an unrecognised comedy genius At least I have my BTMSGL to fall back on.

    In the meantime, cast a loving gaze over what this Italian geezer has to say
    hope that works. If not, try this link

    They both work, the second link gives a bigger image.

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  140. Spawny Get says:

    “Did traders fear that the impact on the global marmite supply was going to unsettle economies everywhere?”

    OMFG Yoda! It’s Return of the Son of Marmageddon Strikes Back Part II

    Marmageddon the Daddy version was in Kiwiland. iirc the kind Aussies volunteered to step in with an emergency supply of their local muck Vegemite. The British original Marmite is far worserer than the pale and weakly Kiwi version…it was banned from shipment to Kiwiland by the Chemical Weapons Treaty pt IV ‘the serious stuff’.

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  141. Yoda says:

    The EU should regard the referendum result as a wake-up call. Discontent with how the bloc operates isn’t restricted to Britain. A survey of more than 10,000 voters across Europe published by the Pew Research Center earlier this month showed rising dissatisfaction. The proportion of French respondents with a favorable view of the EU, for example, slumped to 38 percent from 69 percent in 2004; in Spain the deterioration was to 47 percent from 80 percent.

    The most sensible EU response would be a retreat on at least some of the issues that were at the forefront of the U.K. referendum but are also pressure points across the bloc — immigration, the centralization of decision making and the broader agenda of trying to impose “ever closer union” on a reluctant populace.



  142. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am beginning to draw a conclusion. That this force to promote internationalism comes from the same source that promotes socialism and totalitarianism.
    Megan McArdle’s post brought that one forward.

    Spawny Get,
    That Italian economist has his finger on it. Europe needs Britain more than the other way around. If the net contributors to the EU drop out, those members with their hands out will have to do for themselves. The PIIGS, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, and Spain will have to pull
    themselves up by their own bootstraps.
    Sleep well.

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  143. SFC Ton says:

    I am beginning to draw a conclusion. That this force to promote internationalism comes from the same source that promotes socialism and totalitarianism.

    You are just now coming to that conclusion?


  144. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    After reading that link, even if only half of it were true, and I think it was only the tip of the iceberg, Britain couldn’t have put it of any longer.


  145. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, hence the very bad feeling when it seemed likely that BREXIT wasn’t going to happen. FTR I am still not convinced that it will. Not for sure.

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  146. Yoda says:

    For the rest of the country has felt more and more excluded, not only from participation in the creativity and prosperity of London, but more crucially from power. That gap had begun to yawn dangerously in Thatcher’s 1980s, when deindustrialization in the North and the finance and property boom in the South East meant that growing inequality acquired a grave geographical component. London was not the sole beneficiary. There are pockets of London-like entitlement scattered all over the country—in university towns like Brighton, Cambridge, and Bristol, in select neighbourhoods of Manchester and Leeds. But the big money—and all those elites—remained firmly in London. In recent decades it has felt as if the whole country had been turned upside down and shaken, until most of the wealth and talent had pooled in the capital. One of the most striking features of this period has been the turnaround in London’s educational performance; in the 1990s, it had among the worst educational outcomes in Britain, today it has the best. Some of this is owing to immigration—striving immigrant groups are helping London’s schools to thrive. But some of it is owing to a different kind of migration—talented and ambitious young people from all over the country thronging to London to teach. London’s gain is the rest of the country’s loss.


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  147. Yoda says:

    Several years ago I read a passage in a book by feminist and lesbian author Andrea Dworkin that explained to women the widespread, physical torture women endure at the hands of patriarchy.



  148. Yoda says:

    Most people do NOT want a second Brexit referendum despite more than two million people signing a petition calling for one, a Sunday Mirror and Sunday People survey has revealed.



  149. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I hope that David Cameron keeps his word on this. What may happen is that he may resign too soon and no one will honor his word.
    I saw this earlier and failed to share. Lauren Southern is a Canadian student. Last year she did live reports from slutwalks. This had to be filmed Friday, in the wake of the referendum.

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  150. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Did you mention SheWhoWillNotBeNamed?

    It has been a while since I linked Scarlett Johannson


  151. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Captain Capitalism has a ten year chart of GBP/EUR. It puts things in perspective.


  152. Spawny Get says:

    Cargo Cult policing at its finest.


  153. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Would you expand? I can see the demonstrators that Lauren came in contact with as cargo culters. What really struck me about that was the police were all over the place doing nothing.
    Another thought. I think that Edward R. Murrow would like Lauren Southern.

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  154. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    On so many levels, I like it!

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  155. Yoda says:

    Der Fourth Reich

    “I am confident that these countries can also send a message that we won’t let anyone take Europe from us,” he said heading into a meeting in Berlin of his counterparts from the EU’s six founding members.


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  156. Spawny Get says:

    The ‘Antifa’ Anti-facists are clearly facists. Seemingly partly enabled and funded by Soros. ‘Hope not Hate’, part of the movement, is to receive funds from the murdered MP’s memorial fund. These are thugs painted in the press as ‘the good guys’, they’re anti-facists, aren’t they? Must be the good guys…

    I was talking of the ‘policing’ consisting of a bunch of MOPs putting on the police uniform and pretending to police a demonstration by thugs by…acting like slightly crazy old aunts wandering around asking everybody to be nice (or they’ll get no cake for tea?). Being ignored by the bad guys. They’re more concerned about ‘keeping the charade of peace’ going , rather than enforcing the laws required to have a functional society where freedom of speech is supported.

    MOP is police terminology for Member Of Public.
    Moppet being a derisive slang term for a clueless person.

    Full Definition of moppet
    1 archaic : baby, darling
    2 : child

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  157. Yoda says:

    The EU is poised to ban high-powered appliances such as kettles, toasters, hair-dryers within months of Britain’s referendum vote, despite senior officials admitting the plan has brought them “ridicule”


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  158. Yoda says:

    GOODBYE bendy bananas. Farewell curved cucumbers. So long chunky carrots. The European Union has finally triumphed in its quest to tame nature and keep unusually shaped fruit and vegetables off our shop shelves.
    The House of Lords yesterday ordered greengrocers across the country to obey every EU horticultural regulation passed over the past 30 years concerning fresh produce and conform to the myriad of rules covering size, length, colour and texture.

    The law lords rejected the argument, put forward by the supermarket Asda, that a legal blunder in 1973 had made the EU laws unenforceable. Now greengrocers will have to ensure that under EU regulation 2257/94 their bananas are at least 13.97cm (5.5in) long and 2.69cm (1.06in) round and do not have “abnormal curvature”, as set out in an eight-page directive drawn up in 1994.

    The ban on bendy bananas was necessary, according to an EU Commission official at the time, to prevent them from being mistaken for a “bicycle wheel”. Organic cucumbers will have to straighten up their act, as well. Any that curve more than 10mm per 10cm in length cannot be sold as a Class 1 product.


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  159. Yoda says:

    They shouldn’t have tried to scare us. It is a sign of how little the Remainers understand or know about Britain, and above all about England, that they thought that would work.

    I do sometimes wonder if these odd denatured shiny types, who actively prefer foreign rule to their own, ever visit their own country. Confined to glossy multicultural London neighbourhoods for most of the year, they then hurry abroad.


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  160. Yoda says:

    Young people vented their anger on Saturday against more eurosceptic older voters as they came to terms with a momentous referendum to pull Britain out of the EU, with the hashtag #NotInMyName trending on Twitter.
    “I feel angry. Those who voted leave, they’re not going to fight the future,” said Mary Treinen, 23, a technological consultant who lives in London’s trendy Shoreditch district.

    Within hours of the results, there was a small demonstration outside Downing Street.
    Richie Xavier, a 21-year-old barman, said: “I don’t feel it is right for the old people to speak for us. Not to be insensitive, but we have a lot longer to go than they do. So I do feel a little bit robbed of my future.”
    Paddy Baker, 21, agreed saying: “Older people voted for this — but we are the ones who are going to feel the ramifications.”


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  161. Yoda says:

    What we need is for the Tory Party and the Labour Party to collapse and split and be replaced by two new parties that properly reflect the real divisions in the country.

    Since both the old parties are empty and decrepit, with few active members and reliant on state support and dodgy billionaires, the collapsing and splitting bit should not be too hard. The replacement is up to us, the British people, who have now demonstrated our power if we unite.

    But it can only happen if the next stage is a General Election, which is much more urgent than a Tory (or Labour) leadership contest.

    Thursday’s vote shows that the House of Commons is hopelessly unrepresentative. The concerns and hopes of those who voted to leave the EU – 51.9 per cent of the highest poll since 1992 – are reliably supported by fewer than a quarter of MPs, if that. Ludicrously, neither of the big parties agrees with a proven majority of the electorate – and neither shows any sign of changing its policies as a result.

    If we do nothing about this scandal, for it is a scandal, then how can we be sure we will get out of the EU at all? The elite is rallying and whimpering that the minority must be treated ‘with respect’– more than they would have done had they won.

    Parliament is pro-EU. The Civil Service is pro-EU, the judiciary is pro-EU, the BBC is pro-EU and is now returning to its old bad habits after an admittedly creditable attempt at balance. Its 6am radio news bulletin on Friday said, falsely and dangerously, that the pound had ‘collapsed’ following the result and there will be a lot more of this foolish panic-mongering in days to come.

    We have had only half a revolution. If we do not now complete it, we will have missed an unequalled opportunity to reclaim what is and always was ours.


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  162. Yoda says:

    The rulers of the European Union, the United Kingdom, the United States—take your pick—are so convinced that they know better than the masses, and that they are building a better world, that even in defeat, they are bemoaning how wrongly the masses have voted. And that is the looming danger for the future that the Brexit vote foreshadows: that elites will still not address the concerns of a large proportion of their own citizens.



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