Marrying Down


The situation is so different from times past.  Women obtain fancy degrees, continue onward to get fancier degrees and go even further to garner what they consider to be awesome career slots.  They spend their twenties either riding the carousel or carousel watching.  Before any of these ever happened, their mind was filled with vast quantities of self-esteem.

As for the fella, they are discriminated against in K-12, not welcome at the University and very often spend their twenties doing a bit of this and a bit of that (but not much action for sure).  Often little of this is really beneficial in the preparation of becoming a future husband and father, which is just about the farthest thing from their mind.

What happens when they hit their thirties? The women decide that it is time to marry, and the guys are at least somewhat surprised to get some attention.  Many of these fellas were either defacto or explicitly MGTOW, but with some attention, they maybe will change their minds.  As youngsters, they saw what happened to their Dad’s and Uncles, and decided that marriage was not for them.  But then again, a steady supply of sex is very tempting.

What do the women see?  They see a bunch of guys who seem to be underachievers, and are surely below them in stature.  They wish that there were lots of fellas at least equal to them in stature, but no, that is not how it is.  Women definitely want to marry up.  This was drilled into me as a child growing up in the blue pill world.  Basically this is such a strong desire, that even the blue pill doctrine could not hide it.

So these women hold their noses and take what they can get.  Will they be happy with it?  What do you think?  What will be the end result?  Remember that it is all for the children.

P.S. Note that there is a bit of a marriage strike going on, but it is only gradually gaining steam.  There are still lots of marriages happening

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225 comments on “Marrying Down
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This is an unintended consequence of affirmative action. Their status has been raised at the expense of men. So, all the the previously equal tier men are now below them. I have no idea how to address this as this is all hardwired into women.

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  2. horseman says:

    https://news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2016/06/ontario-sets-gender-diversity-targets.html

    By provincial decree our beloved Liberal leader has mandated more women drink the koolaid and man up. All provincial boards i.e. esch hospitals board, every countys school board, the Labour Board that hears arbitrations. The financial ombudsmon, my LTC/community care facility. All must be 40% female. Mine are city counsellos by statute. Of 16 counsellors only 4 are female….so

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  3. horseman says:

    Today it is women marrying down, tough it out and become so unhaaaaaaappy they cant stand it and divorce.

    But my son’s generation. They dont say mgtow but they openly discuss how they will never marry. At least ten of his circle have never had a relationship (get laid like tile) and all are trades or uni educated productive young men. So their female counterparts……cats, cats, cats, cats, wine, cats, cats…..

    Cosmo Article 2025 “How to find a man…a breathing man”

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  4. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    How can they mandate that forty percent of these agencies will be women when it all comes down to who volunteers? It is all going to backfire in a big way but, still, men will be found to be responsible for the outcome.

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  5. Yoda says:

    Marrying down ever works it does?

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  6. Yoda says:

    Do women ever understand why “equal or better” men there are not?

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  7. Yoda says:

    Do women ever understand they probably not as awesome as they think they are?

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  8. Stephanie says:

    There really does still seem to be a lot of marriages happening. I’ve seen so many different kinds of people get married… that “married up,” seems to be skewed to me. There is someone out there for everyone – and I mean I have seen it.

    And as far as girls you’d think have tons of options because of their beauty and youth, I have quite a few friends in (millennials) that are white and have higher degrees than their husbands (also white) – some of these girls I grew up with in a very affluent, small town area. They married men that were definitely alpha, but firefighters, men who helped with their father’s businesses in the town, blue collar workers, and not really socially considered marrying up. One was a cheer leader and one was a dancer with me, and none of us were pinning for marrying up in an economical sense. A huge problem my parents had with me marrying my now husband was that he hadn’t finished college yet, and only had plans to do criminal justice work that panned out to being a Police Officer. My dad told me my mom had dreams of me marrying someone with more money.

    I love my husband obviously, but I can see how it could be viewed that I didn’t really “marry up.” I have a degree and he still doesn’t as of yet.

    Black women seem to be a different story altogether though, and have a huge problem in this area right now…. which is why so many of them are still single and getting older. Many women in that race actually will NOT usually even consider a man that hasn’t gone to college and “made something” of himself – never mind the debt accrued that would go with that, etc. Out of our wives that are married to firefighters and police men, I know of NO black women at all.

    There’s a whole documentary that Rollo posted a while ago on black women and their desire to marry up economically and financially/socially. I personally don’t understand it.

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Marrying down is marrying for beta bucks. It’ll end in divorce or misery.
    Women do not understand elevating themselves leads to a dearth of candidates.
    To be “not as awesome” usually involves hard contact with reality. Women are spared humbling experiences.

    In all this, I am reminded of the the great failure of Res Publica of Poland and Lithuania. They had a big legislature and each delegate had the power to veto. Little could be passes.In the current marketplace, men present themselves to women. Their acceptance is presumed. Therefore, women hold the power of the veto.

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  10. Stephanie says:

    I just don’t get the entitlement of their attitude in the interviews with these black women. I thought it was taboo to outright say that you get married to “get taken care of.”

    If you’re a successful woman with a career or degree, why on earth do you still want a man to “take care of” you? I guess it just doesn’t make sense because I didn’t get married with that mindset myself. I knew traits of hard work and diligence were important, and he had those! But that doesn’t mean he has to have achieved a certain standard of making money that young. I was on the track to make 6 figures like one of the career women stated in this interview, but I had no expectation that my future husband should “*at least* make 75 thousand.” With his career path, I knew I would more than likely be making almost 100,000 more than him, but it wasn’t a negative factor to me.

    ***
    Back to the video:

    And then look at what these black men are doing!! They are up and moving out of American so that they can get access to the Brazilian women (who look better and take better care of themselves) and actually aren’t so educated that they “no longer need them.”

    The black women in America have out-educated themselves for the black men. Maybe someday white women will be like that, too, but I’ve seen many examples of white women not caring so much about being a gold digger like that.

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  11. SFC Ton says:

    This marrying down thing hits on something I find puzzling. I understand it but it is still puzzeling

    Women seem to prefer men with degrees to men with money. Long ago, in a galaxy far far away I use to power lifter with these dudes. One a plumber with his own bidness and one was a lawyer. The liar did better with women though the plumber made a lot more money. Fast forward to recently and some of the lady doctors Girl#1 works with made comments about not settling but again where basing the idea of settling having college degrees vs money in the bank. A starving dude with an art history degree rating higher then a guy with his own truck knocking back 6 figures

    I get the importance of social standing what I don’t get is how the worthless people conned women into thinking a degree in art history or some such stupid shit counts for more then money in the bank. Women really are that stupid and easily lead astray

    I live in a super zip cod; the above 70 crowd doesn’t roll that way but their kids and or grandkids sure as fuck do

    also as noted, certain jobs get a pass, fire fighters, artisanal craft types

    I live among negroes; how them bitches avoid getting beat to death by men is beyond me. I know the level of DV among negroes is comparatively much higher then among Whites or Asians but to me its amazing the DV among negroes is so low.

    Boggles the mind

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Dragonfly,
    It has been a while since I saw that video. When I did see it last, what struck me is that, even if sex were was not on the agenda, just socializing with the Brazilian women would be pleasurable due to their femininity.
    I think that affirmative action has done black women a disservice. Promoting them get educators and employers double points. They weren’t promoted on merit.
    To add to that, these women are in white collar jobs. Jobs in those fields are limited, at best, to men. Yet, there is extra status for white collar work.
    What should concern white people is that we are seeing a glimpse into a future where men are further discounted. We are not that far behind,

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic. After last summer’s undercover videos, it is amazing that Planned Parenthood has and public funding of friends left. To add to that, as the number of declared feminists dwindle, the ones remaining will be more radical.

    This video should go viral and the woman identified. She claims to be a lawyer.

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  14. Spawny Get says:

    Sounds like it’ll be on topic

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Janice Fiamengo is great! She has a new video out every Thursday afternoon Eastern Time but she does take breaks. Sadly, she is on one now. She may have enough videos to cover her vacation. Let’s hope. Oh, they can be found at Studio Brule on youtube.

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  16. SFC Ton says:

    The more I see of lawyers the more I think they need to be the 1st casualties

    This not marrying down thing is strictly an UMC White woman issue so it gets a lot of attention, Marriage prospects for the working class and middle class have been sketchy for a lot longer with nary a word

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  17. Sumo says:

    The more I see of lawyers the more I think they need to be the 1st casualties

    I had no idea that The Ton was a Shakespeare fan.

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  18. Cill says:

    I had no idea that The Ton was a Shakespeare fan.
    JFC I didn’t cast him in that role either.

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  19. Liz says:

    We went to an event last night in the community. They were giving out scholarships. We want to kick our son for not applying to a single one since their graduating class is pretty small and there was a great deal of money involved, but that’s another topic for another day.

    The thing was four hours long too…like a fork in the eye. One of the last speakers opened a Doctor Seuss book and read “Oh, the places you will go” at about the 3 and a half hour point. Our son was sitting up on stage and you could see him laughing. It would have been appropriate at the beginning but wow was it a poor choice at that point. One of the neighbors spoke for less than two minutes and handed out two five thousand dollar checks to two students from his fishing organization. We are going to buy that guy a beer, it was the best speech of the night.

    But I digress…the reason I bring this up is, about 8 out of 10 of the scholarships went to girls (lots of women’s organizations and sororities). I can’t imagine a men’s group handing out scholarships just to men, even now when it’s obvious to everyone that women are getting them all. Of course, community service and so forth goes into these things. Boys don’t typically go out of their way to do community service work for “fun”, but girls seem to. Maybe it’s all part of trying to get themselves up on the pecking order for future mates (subliminally, I’m sure they don’t realize that’s what they are doing).

    I’m not so sure about the degree thing (how important it is to women). Airline pilots are blue collar workers (well paid blue collar). No one asks if they have an advanced degree on Tinder, and they pretty much get a free hooker service at every hub if they want one. I think a guy could say he’s a pilot and own the outfit and get a free hooker service. Of course, that’s not marriage but you wouldn’t want to marry those women anyway.

    Not much time this morning. Just wanted to stop by and say hi. 🙂

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  20. Liz says:

    Just thinking further on the topic of academic achievement and the UMC, since it came up. Maybe our community isn’t representative, but I don’t think most of the guys have high level degrees (other than the doctors and lawyers), and they’re all UMC pretty much. Eclectic bunch of people.

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  21. SFC Ton says:

    I had no idea that The Ton was a Shakespeare fan.
    ——

    I’m the Ton motherfuckers! Shakespeare is a fan of me you artless beetle-headed canker-blossoms. Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair

    The gunslinger bidness laves you with a lot of down time to read and what not.

    __________–

    What is the age of your eclecit UMC bunch? Also UMC is/ has become about a lot more then income and zipcode

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  22. Stephanie says:

    “What should concern white people is that we are seeing a glimpse into a future where men are further discounted. We are not that far behind,”

    I think you’re right, Fuzzie. The breakdown of the family in black communities and the loss of positive masculinity is more than likely where all of society is eventually headed if something doesn’t change. We know a lot of families like ours though, that are semi-aware (not of exactly the manosphere, but aware of feminism ruining masculinity and femininity and the family). They are far from that kind of breakdown at least right now.

    Just speaking from a crime standpoint, though, all-black neighborhoods are extremely dangerous. We have an area in our city that is just insanely violent. Everyone knows it, and everyone hates it. The police wives think it’s like suicide for their husbands to be put on that side and have to patrol on foot (something our mayor recently wanted to deter the huge crime rates of the blacks). And it’s well-known that they are a huge drain on our city through welfare programs that don’t work, programs for their children that don’t work… just tons of money thrown away on them because they consistently choose to live without virtue.

    No other race compares to that, all white neighborhoods and even all-Hispanic neighborhoods do not have that rate of violent crimes, and it’s not just the breakdown of family that contributes to it, or the lack of fathers, but the abuse done by the women failing their families. On the whole, the women in the black culture that have contributed to this greatly, they are often on welfare, either abuse their children or neglect them, live with different men throughout their children’s lives, live wholly without virtue, and then wonder why their neighborhoods are so devastated. Then we have these women in that documentary that feel too above the black men working normal blue collar jobs, so they often stay single for a lonnng time, and aren’t out there creating good strong, solid black families to leave any kind of resemblance of a legacy. I worked with one closely who is 40 now – has never been married, looks amazing, but has a high degree and wants someone who she can see as an equal who will take care of her. It is the same sentiment as the women in the video. There’s utterly no concept of getting married young, building up a life together and “suffering” through poverty or hardship. They want it easy and think it *should* be easy.

    Another thing I see Fuzzie, is black culture keeps their own down as well – something we just don’t see in white society. When a black boy is doing well in school or succeeding, he is not just a nerd, he gets labeled as an outcast and sometimes taunted as being “too white.” Success = Whiteness and rejecting “black (thuggish) culture.”

    And just to be clear, we do have black Police Officers – my husband is friends with a couple of them, but black women didn’t marry them, they married hispanic women who support them.

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  23. SFC Ton says:

    Appalachia has all thew social ills of the black community and a fraction of the violent crime and other dysfunction with less government services

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  24. Liz says:

    “What is the age of your eclectic UMC bunch? Also UMC is/ has become about a lot more then income and zipcode”

    From 30s on up.
    I don’t know many people in their twenties who are married, and the people in their 20s down here aren’t UMC and probably aren’t going to be any time soon. They are fishing guides, tradesmen, or in the service industries (waitresses and so forth). The UMC people either came here to retire, or they’re living here part time and have a home elsewhere, or they’re just very lucky (some own businesses too). There are some REALLY affluent people, but the ones that are didn’t get that way with an advanced degree either.

    My sister in law is visiting now. She’s a person who talks a great deal about advanced degrees. Particularly hers. She did her thesis on a French Medieval Tapestry. Useful! To me, that’s an IQ test in and of itself. She failed. Like my mother, she is a compulsive liar as well. Since she isn’t Italian she is much worse at it, though. I kind of internally cringe at the rookiness. For example, she was telling our boys that she “worked the last two years of college”. I guess she forgot I knew her back then. It took her seven years to get a BA in history (with a very low GPA). Her parents spent several hundred thousand on her and although she technically “worked”, it was at a sex shop, and they paid her EXCLUSIVELY in underwear and toys (I swear this is a true story…yeah, I’d make that up for fun but how could I even come up with that one?).

    Oy, vey. Off to more adventures.
    Have a great day all. 🙂

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  25. Tarnished says:

    I thought it was taboo to outright say that you get married to “get taken care of.”

    Not in all circles.
    My mom, sisters, aunts, and some family friends are all of this opinion. They are not quiet about it if you get them on the concept of chivalry/tradcon values.

    I’m the black sheep of the family, in that (were I to ever somehow want marriage) I’d prefer to be the breadwinner.

    If you’re a successful woman with a career or degree, why on earth do you still want a man to “take care of” you?

    Because they feel they are owed it. Which is the problem…they “feel” it, not even think it.

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    BEST MAKE SURE THAT NO CANADIANS WATCH THIS

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  27. Yoda says:

    she technically “worked”, it was at a sex shop, and they paid her EXCLUSIVELY in underwear and toys (I swear this is a true story…yeah, I’d make that up for fun but how could I even come up with

    Good kind of oversharing this is.
    Reset the “oversharing clock” I will

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  28. Yoda says:


    What If The Ghostbusters Marketing Is Deliberately Bad, In Order to Controversialize It?

    Crazy idea? Not really. Note that when Obama or Hillary faces a disclosure of bad facts, they immediately controversialize those facts — politicize them — because it’s easier to deal with a political fight than bad facts.

    What if Ghostbusters is an awful, awful movie and the only possible remaining marketing play is to controversialize it so at least the smallish cadre of feminists in the country is guilt-tripped into seeing it, as Christians are routinely guilt-tripped into seeing less-than-stellar fare

    Everyone knows how to sell an identity-politics food fight — but no one really knows how to sell a piece-of-shit movie.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363932.php

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  29. Yoda says:

    Lose his marbles, he will not

    A prisoner in West Virginia has been given the go ahead to sue state prison officials for surgically removing marbles which he had had implanted in his penis.

    https://www.rt.com/viral/345770-court-prisoner-marbles-penis/

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  30. Yoda says:

    Marrying down is marrying for beta bucks.

    Wonder what percentage of this there is I do

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  31. I would guess most women aren’t concious of or are in denial of their hypergamous nature. Add to that projection (I’ll get a degree and a career so better guys will like me!) and the culture that makes it easy for women to get scholarships/degrees, and women priced themselves right out of their own market. Then of course are unhaaaaapy.

    At one time women went to college to meet and marry a man who was going to college and live an umc life. But now that colleges are 60% women that strategy is outdated.

    On top of it, women are prone to listening to the advice of others, especially when young. So when all they are hearing is the above, they go along w/o ever really asking themselves if any of that is working. Until they find out it doesn’t.

    And naturally all the women of the generation that foisted all this bs on the next generations married and lived vicariously… Very few were SIW themselves! Traitors.

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  32. Tarnished says:

    Marrying down ever works it does?

    Depends on what one thinks “down” entails.
    If I married Seamus (not going to, this is purely hypothetical), one could make the argument either way.

    I’d be marrying “up” in that he has a Masters compared to my Bachelor’s, and that his income is 40% higher than mine.

    But I might also be marrying “down” since he has a shit-ton more debt than me ($2K compared to over $30k) and he’s in a field with limited growth opposed to mine, which will either stay the same or grow.

    Personally, I’d think I would be marrying straight across, because our individual flaws and strengths balance out pretty damn well.

    So…yeah.
    Depends on how you look at it.

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  33. Tarnished says:

    Do women ever understand they probably not as awesome as they think they are?

    Nope.

    I, on the other hand, have a well calibrated Awesome-o-meter, and know I’m pretty great. 👍 *grin*

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    Mine pegged hard and died even though I bought the industrial model
    😦

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  35. Cill says:

    Liz now joins Tarn in head-shakingness. Liz at 3:28 pm here.

    I don’t know, Liz, I really don’t know.

    (shaking my head)

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    ConWoman on the radio
    Laura was on Woman’s Hour today helping the sisters celebrate 150 years of feminism

    Rumoured to be an instant cure for low blood pressure

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  37. Cill says:

    My sister in law… did her thesis on a French Medieval Tapestry… Like my mother, she is a compulsive liar as well. Since she isn’t Italian she is much worse at it, though. I kind of internally cringe at the rookiness… although she technically “worked”, it was at a sex shop, and they paid her EXCLUSIVELY in underwear and toys (I swear this is a true story…yeah, I’d make that up for fun but how could I even come up with that one?)…Oy, vey. Off to more adventures…

    No professional comic could match that. I’m shaking with laughter at the helm of my barge. What a great way to start a day, Liz like a breath of fresh air.

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  38. Cill says:

    150 years of feminism

    150 years of hate.

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  39. Cill says:

    Back to Liz.

    BWAHAHAHAHA!

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    Liz tells tall tales
    “paid her EXCLUSIVELY in underwear and toys”

    Pull the other one…it’s got chains, feathers, nipple-clamps on

    (Possibly won’t travel well, the explanation; https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110824021721AAmL88a

    “Pull the other one” is an expression deriving from “to pull someone’s leg”, meaning to make fun of someone or fool someone. The full expression is:-

    “Pull the other leg – it’s got bells on!” shortened to “Pull the other one!”

    It’s said to indicate that the speaker does not believe what he has been told – he is sarcastically suggesting that whoever he thinks is trying to bamboozle him should tug on his other leg to hear bells ring – so if you like, he’s countering something that he thinks unbelievable with something even more absurd

    An accurate alternative would be “I’m not that stupid!”

    )

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    Holy crap!
    Just watched Andrew Brillo Neil give George Osborne a right kicking over his ProjectFear claims. George might have started with an outie, but it’s been kicked into an innie.

    Now watching the preceding interview where he ripped Hillary Benn’s possibly fictional testicles off.

    Spawny ❤ Brillo

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  42. Cill says:

    Pull the other one

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    Nice video, not the meaning required for my ubergag.

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  44. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    A peace offering for the Canadians.

    You don’t deserve Justin Trudeau and we don’t deserve Hillary.

    Speaking of Hillary, why do I feel, at a gut level, that this account of DV has merit? Feminists would like people to believe that female on male violence can’t happen.

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  45. Cill says:

    I hope that Brillo interview becomes publishable in due course, me old mate.

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  46. SFC Ton says:

    What I see here is two distinct groups of UMC types

    #1 is the dudes with money. I talk to a much older gentleman on the regular who bills out 30-40 mill a year in farm construction. High school grade. Kicked around some before marrying and building the americna dream. He is not UMC in tastes and social signaling. Some of this group are older dudes with degrees but generally view their advance degrees as job training vs high faulting education

    #2 is the crowd that wants craft beers, weird cheese and to talk about dumbshit like books no one read or even liked

    Group#1 is aging out of existence; group 2 is dying by low birth rate. The guys who are coming up that would replace Group#1 as a blue collar UMC contingency cling to their blue collar roots like its a region. Sort of like a counter UMC social signalling driven by their disgust of the UMC Group#2 types. The guys coming up who would replace Group#2 are pretty spun up on dumbshit that won’t pay the bills, the few of them that there are

    I’m sure Liz can guess as to which super zip code I live( BV too) an attest to the money there. Some of these cats spend more a month on green fees and horse boarding then yearly median two family income. What I think it boils down to is a clash between old money and new money and the new money folks are generally sacks of shit. Well that’s unfair to actual sacks of shit

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  47. Spawny Get says:

    Having ripped Benn’s balls off, Neil is now proceeding to kerb stomp him. Fucking brutal.

    No wonder DoomsDave refuses to be interviewed by him.

    Like

  48. Spawny Get says:

    Spawny is beneficent

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  49. Cill says:

    You do realize, you’re going to have to share those Brillo interviews with us now, mate-o?

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    Done ^^^^^
    The first one anyway

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    The Benn interview is betterer than the Osborne one. Hillary is still on the intensive care ward, seems he has to sleep on his front. Something about footwear being lodged so far up there that it’s debatable whether to go in orally or rectally

    You owe me

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  52. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    I hope that you find this. It was good to see you..
    Eight out of ten scholarships going to girls? That is a more than a little blatant.
    The story of your sister in law was amusing.

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    Hillary Benn and Bill Clinton?

    Now that’s a rumour.

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    From COTWA. Losing patience?

    Like

  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am sorry. Here is the link to COTWA. It’s short.
    http://www.cotwa.info/2016/06/another-study-supposedly-proves-most.html

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  56. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn…Arseface?

    Like

  57. JDG says:

    Yoda says:
    8 June, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    The answer to the question in the caption is YEEEESSSSS!!!

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  58. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    JDG,
    t least there is a commercial application for bat guano. Not that it has anything to do with sandwiches.

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  59. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    It hurt to “like”. Four out of ten women in the US are now obese?
    They’re not furry enough to disguise themselves as bears.

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  60. JDG says:

    Fuzzie:

    You don’t deserve Justin Trudeau and we don’t deserve Hillary.

    Fuzzie beg to differ. This country elected Obama, twice. It has legalized the murder of the unborn. It is encouraging it’s women to be unfaithful, unfeminine, and morally repulsive. It has destroyed the patriarchal family and removed all authority from husbands and fathers. In addition, it is forcing and / or bribing other countries to follow suite. Most importantly, it has disavowed any allegiance to the Christian principles inherent from its inception, and worse, it has turned away from the Almighty (who causes nations to rise AND fall).

    As a nation we deserve whatever we get (even Hillary).

    IMO there will be no sammiches in the future short of a miracle.

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  61. JDG says:

    Fuzzie –

    It hurt to “like”. Four out of ten women in the US are now obese?
    They’re not furry enough to disguise themselves as bears.

    4 out of 10? That explains why I see so many skinny guys with not so skinny girls when I’m out and about.

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  62. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,

    It’s 3 out of 10 for men.
    I’m saddened that American culture has come to this…

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  63. JDG says:

    It’s 3 out of 10 for men.

    Often when I encounter over weight men they are either alone or in the company of an even larger female. I’m trying to remember a big guy / skinny girl combo that I’ve seen, but so far it’s a no go.

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  64. Spawny Get says:

    Batty Hatty Harman on tv saying that women voters need to be specifically targeted for remainiac beaulux. It seems that thicky women can’t keep up with the menz debating…at least that’s what I gather that she’s saying.

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  65. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think that explains why more women are obese. The skinny guy/big girl combo is common but, the reverse is unusual to the point of never happening.

    JDG, Would the virtuous who lived in the time of the Judges deserve God’s inevitable wrath? We’ll make our own sandwiches or go to Subway.

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  66. Yoda says:

    saying that women voters need to be specifically targeted for remainiac beaulux.

    Perhaps mean “promise more goodies” it does

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  67. Yoda says:

    Wonder if Hillary ever made a sammich I do

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  68. Cill says:

    It’s the same old story. When you want a bad choice to be made, concentrate on women and “minorities” (immigrants).

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  69. Yoda says:

    Hillary ends the dream of the first possible Jewish President she does

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  70. Yoda says:

    If I married Seamus

    Sounds like a marine mammal at Sea World he does

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  71. Spawny Get says:

    Squeaky bum time chez Dave

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/08/claim-cameron-may-offer-referendum-turkish-eu-membership-desperate-bid-stop-brexit/

    Most odd, DoomsDave has been very anxious to tell us that Turkey won’t be joining till the year 3000.

    Why do we need a referendum now for something 920 years away, Dave?

    A survey done in Turkey found that 12,000,000 Turks quite fancied coming to the UK for the social benefits. Pretty sure that I’ve mentioned already that we’re fucking full.

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  72. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, did you watch the Benn (dover and grab ankles, time for a spanking) interview?

    What did you think?

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  73. SFC Ton says:

    LOL this one time, at band camp, my call sign was Seamus -7

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  74. Spawny Get says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/08/voteleave-dominates-twitter-users-posts-brexit/

    LONDON, June 8 (Reuters) – Twitter users are talking about Britain leaving the EU around twice as much as they are discussing staying in, data showed on Wednesday, as some observers look to social media to help track the likelihood of a Brexit.
    With polls too close to call, hashtags related to a “Leave” vote have received over 800,000 mentions, against more than 400,000 for “Remain,” according to an analysis by social media monitoring tool Brandwatch.

    Up until June 7, there were 5.4 million tweets mentioning the EU referendum in the last two months, it said.

    “Of course, this doesn’t necessarily mean that more people using social media will actually vote Leave and these mentions will include people who are talking about the Leave campaign but don’t necessarily support it,” it added on its website.

    “However, the fact that Leave-related hashtags are registering at nearly double the rate Remain ones are is definitely interesting.”

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  75. JDG says:

    JDG, Would the virtuous who lived in the time of the Judges deserve God’s inevitable wrath?

    No, but they were often slain by the wicked.

    57 The righteous man perishes,
    and no one lays it to heart;
    devout men are taken away,
    while no one understands.
    For the righteous man is taken away from calamity;
    2 he enters into peace;
    they rest in their beds
    who walk in their uprightness.

    And right now the righteous are as rare as purple bears. Even back in Isaiah’s day the wicked were slaughtering their own children.

    3 But … you, draw near,
    sons of the sorceress,
    offspring of the adulterer and the loose woman.
    4 Whom are you mocking?
    Against whom do you open your mouth wide
    and stick out your tongue?
    Are you not children of transgression,
    the offspring of deceit,
    5 you who burn with lust among the oaks,
    under every green tree,
    who slaughter your children in the valleys,
    under the clefts of the rocks?

    I apologize if my earlier comment misconstrued the intent of your meaning for the word “we”. I took it to mean “we the people”. I concur that the righteous do not deserve Hitlery, but so often it is that the righteous must suffer along with the wicked (at least for a time).

    We’ll make our own sandwiches or go to Subway.

    Lots of women make sammiches at Subway. I wonder if they realize they are being “oppressed by the Patriarchy” every time they do so. I think I’m over due for a visit to Subway.

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  76. Yoda says:

    Tarn lucky she would be
    Marine mammals quite fun they are
    Except Jar-Jar that is

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  77. horseman says:

    We have The Justin and this hideous creature Wynne premier of my Ontario province, she of the 40% women on boards. We do this to balance out the American Killery\Bernie.

    newsflash. Justin juyst apologized for his bad apology for saying sorry for something he didn’t do but could have. Because its 2016 doncha know.

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  78. horseman says:

    spawny WTF. just pasting a google picture of wynne. Apologies. Shes so ugly she broke the interwebs.

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  79. Ame says:

    if i’ve heard it once, i’ve heard it a jillion times … “You can fall in love with a rich guy just as easily as a poor one.” meaning … fall in love with a rich guy … often meaning – fall in love w/a rich guy with a college degree, not one who’s too stupid to go to college.

    and … it is ingrained among many to graduate from college THEN get a career started THEN get married.

    obviously … wisdom is not bestowed upon these people.

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  80. Tarnished says:

    Sounds like a marine mammal at Sea World he does

    Lol. Well, remember though, it’s pronounced Shay-mus, not See-mus.

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  81. Tarnished says:

    He’d probably be a dolphin or beluga whale.

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  82. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    JDG,
    This is grim. As for your reference to purple bears,
    I have never seen a purple bear.
    I hope that I never see one.
    But I can tell you anyhow,
    I’d rather see than be one!

    Horseman,
    She did! She did break the internet!

    JDG,
    Having female employees at Subway making sandwiches? Doesn’t that count as some form of abuse?

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  83. Tarnished says:

    I think that explains why more women are obese. The skinny guy/big girl combo is common but, the reverse is unusual to the point of never happening.

    There’s a few in my area, including some of my married friends. J and his wife are like a Saint Bernard and a Cocker Spaniel…the size difference between them is borderline ridiculous, lol. He’s this massive, broad shouldered, tall dude and she’s a 5’2″, skinny as hell petite lady. Very WtF when you first meet them.

    Seamus and I are a little like that, which I’ve said before. He’s 6’2″ and 270 lbs, overweight but not obese. I’m 5’7″ and 144 lbs, and I do a morning workout every weekday.

    I like that he’s kinda squishy round the middle. Big guys are my weakness. 🙂

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  84. JDG says:

    JDG,
    Having female employees at Subway making sandwiches? Doesn’t that count as some form of abuse?

    Fuzzie in this country I’m surprised there isn’t some kind of Presidential mandate or even a law prohibiting such misogynism.

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  85. Tarnished says:

    Gods damn it.
    I tried to fix the interwebz for Horseman, but literally none of the pics of this woman work the way they should.

    What sorcery is this…

    Like

  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I think that you like him!
    That Yoda is spreading the rumor that he is a water based mammal, while you are land based, does make one wonder about the prospect of breeding. Wouldn’t that make things more difficult?However, Yoda must be telling tales. I think you are both human.

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  87. Cill says:

    horseman at 12:43 am

    Spawny will be asleep. I fixed the image for you.

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  88. Tarnished says:

    *whew!*
    Thanks for the help, Cill. Editing on a phone is not always possible.

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  89. Tarnished says:

    That Yoda is spreading the rumor that he is a water based mammal, while you are land based, does make one wonder about the prospect of breeding.

    It’s already impossible for him to pregnantize me in real life, Fuzzie, but I like to think our imaginary children would be merfolk. *grin*

    I think that you like him!

    Eh, maybe just a little…*wink*

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  90. Tarnished says:

    And yes, I did just make up the word pregnantize.
    It sounds cooler than “having a bun in the oven”.

    You’re welcome. 😀

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  91. horseman says:

    Beers and thanks to Tarn and Cill. Damn she is ugly but to break the webs. Wynne, Killery, Merkel. Do women politicians need to be -5 to run?

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  92. Tarnished says:

    Beers all ’round!
    🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

    Coffee, sake, and tea for those with other tastes.
    ☕☕🍶🍶🍵🍵

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  93. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    It reminded me of “Pizzly” bears. Since polar and grizzly bears live in different enviornments, no one knew they could interbreed. It must be internet dating.

    Cill,
    Horseman was right. She broke the internet. You meant well. 🙂

    Horseman,
    She is especially so.

    Ton,
    I can’t believe cops are still doing that. It directly violates the fourth amendment and any statutes relating to highway robbery.

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  94. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Better than bars all around.
    🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻

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  95. Yoda says:

    pronounced Shay-mus, not See-mus.

    Told you this he did,
    to throw Sea World off the track it was

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  96. Tarnished says:

    I think Ton would say crooked cops have been doing those kinds of things for a while, Fuzzie.

    Liked by 1 person

  97. Tarnished says:

    My Google-fu is unmatched.

    Liked by 4 people

  98. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    When I heard that cash confiscations were happening in Volusia County, Florida in the early nineties, I couldn’t imagine that it would still be going one.

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  99. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    My ability with youtube pales in comparison.

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  100. Ame says:

    Fuzzie – Volusia County FL is a cesspool of crime … and, didn’t you know what happens in Volusia County stays in Volusia County?! 😉

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  101. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    At the time, the story was that they were interdicting drug money travelling through the county via I-75.
    But, if the cops are committing highway robbery, it does set a bad example.

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  102. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Even though the car has no gender, it is not enough to make up for the rest of it. By the way, the original had more funk.

    Liked by 2 people

  103. Tarnished says:

    Volusia County a wretched hive of scum and villainy it is?

    Liked by 2 people

  104. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I don’t believe so. I did have the geography wrong. It’s along the east coast and includes Daytona Beach and I-95, not I-75.

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  105. Cill says:

    The Pink Mao Mao at 2:32 am is humping a Sea Egg. That Egg is undergoing abuse, no question.

    Like

  106. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “Wretched hive of scum an villainy.”
    That sounds like a bar on Tatooine

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  107. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That explains Fluffle Puff’s content expression.

    Like

  108. Farm Boy says:

    It’s a testament to how embattled free speech defenders have become that social media recently exploded with the unlikely hashtag “IStandWithHateSpeech.”

    This came in response to news that four American tech giants — Microsoft, YouTube, Twitter and Facebook — had agreed on a code of conduct with the European Commission to take down “hate speech” within 24 hours of it being posted on social media.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/06/08/microsoft-youtube-twitter-facebook-hate-speech-eu-colleges-column/85492284/

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  109. Farm Boy says:

    Female journalists are reporting several instances of harassment from rogue Bernie Sanders supporters, saying the Sanders backers have issued sexist comments and have even threatened bodily harm.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/female-journalists-report-harassment-from-bernie-sanders-supporters/

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  110. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    May it become as big as GamerGate!

    Like

  111. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    It is curious that when examples of harassment are forthcoming, they are exclusively from men. This doesn’t jive with the recent report about half of all twitter abuse is from women. While a lot of Bernie supporters are stinkers, I think the complainants are cherry picking.

    This is going to be the ugliest Presidential in living memory.

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  112. Farm Boy says:

    This is going to be the ugliest Presidential in living memory.

    Perhaps in more ways than one

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  113. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I omitted the word “election”. Sorry.

    Farm Boy, I see your point. There is also the word “shrill”.

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  114. Yoda says:

    Think of men as forks and women as spoons. Within the last hundred years or so we have come to see the two utensils as different in form and function but nonetheless a complementary matched set. But then along came the feminists who declared that spoons can do anything that forks can do! That statement isn’t technically true (and neither is its inverse) but we accepted it because every time we disputed it we were accused of hating spoons. We defended ourselves from the charge only to have our pleas fall on deaf ears.

    Then came the homosexuals who decided that forks and spoons weren’t really complementary at all. Two forks or two spoons were just as good as the traditional fork-spoon combo because, in the final analysis, they’re all just tableware. This assertion was a tougher sell because most people could see that forks and spoons are inherently different. The homosexuals dismissed these substantive differences by comparing them to superficial differences such as the color of the eating utensils. So now when we sit down to eat we no longer expect to find a fork and spoon on the table and we blush with embarrassment to think that we ever did.

    Then came the transgenders who proclaimed that sometimes a fork can actually be a spoon and vice versa. Looking like a fork, with all the defining characteristics of a fork, doesn’t necessarily mean that a utensil is a fork. Utensils are now free to “identify” as one or the other. Cut off the tines if that’s what it takes, or just leave them on-it doesn’t matter. From the moment the fork decides it’s a spoon that’s what it is. Each utensil’s word is final. All of us will be forced to use the fork as a spoon, to refer to it as a spoon, and to store it alongside the other spoons in the silverware drawer. If some of the other spoons don’t like it they need to get with the times.

    As crazy as that sounds, we’re not done yet. The next step is to abolish the concepts of forkness and spoonness altogether. From now on we will all use sporks! Sporks are wonderful things because they’re interchangeable. No more messing around with two separate utensils when one will do the trick.

    Call me old fashioned but I don’t want to eat all my meals with a spork. Sporks remind me of meals I’ve eaten at sketchy fried chicken restaurants. I want to live in a world in which all the forks are forks, all the spoons are spoons, and everyone knows the difference. They’re both beautiful in their own way and they both serve a purpose. Sporks are a lousy substitute.

    https://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2016/06/complete-androgyny-is-lefts-ultimate.html

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  115. Yoda says:

    Thankfully Glorious Patriarch a Spork he is not

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  116. Yoda says:

    Actually “Spork” Darth Emo’s boss he is.
    A fitting boss for him he would be

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  117. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Those wacky feminists! Do they have nay idea how difficult it is to eat soup with a fork?

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  118. Last few times I went to subway it was all male staffed. Men making sammiches. Sad.

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  119. JDG says:

    I’d like to dedicate a song to all those guys who found themselves married to a gal who thought she married down:

    Ain’t no sammich when she’s gone
    No BLT when shes away
    Ain’t no sammich when she’s gone
    The kitchen stays empty far too long
    Anytime she goes away

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  120. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    It’s kind of the flip side but, for boys, it is nice to have the opposite sex perform a service. Is it nice for you to have a guy make your sandwich?
    I think that I may know why there are only guys there. It is hard to find reliable young women as employees.

    JDG,
    I think he would like your lyrics. He would’t use them, except among friends, but he would like them.

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  121. Sumo says:

    the crowd that wants craft beers, weird cheese and to talk about dumbshit like books no one read or even liked

    Umm….I like craft beers and weird cheese. And I’m betting no one else here has read The Dresden Files.

    Maybe Tarn, but for sure no one else.

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  122. Spawny Get says:

    Reason for linking…TBD

    Liked by 1 person

  123. Spawny Get says:

    Bad news for the Moll
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/09/project-fear-ice-cream-will-expensive-brexit-claims-stronger/

    Paul Polman, a Dutch businessman and the boss of Unilever, told Channel 4 News that “it’s ludicrous to think you can be alone in the UK,” and warned a Brexit would have “serious consequences” and the price of ice cream will go up.

    Paul Polman, Unilever boss, says the price of ice cream will go up if we leave the EU #StrongerIn

    — Stronger In Press (@StrongerInPress) June 7, 2016

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  124. Spawny Get says:

    Alligators set to invade all Britain’s lakes and rivers if we BREXIT
    The Serpentine in Hyde Park yesterday…

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/08/alligator-spotted-holding-human-body-mouth/

    (I may have made this up, but that’s a highly fashionable thing to do at the moment)

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    the crowd that wants craft beers, weird cheese and to talk about dumbshit like books no one read or even liked

    Umm….I like craft beers and weird cheese.

    Me too. I suspect that we actually like them for the taste (potentially good taste anyways). Them hipsters probably like them for the niche labels.

    And I’m betting no one else here has read The Dresden Files.

    Maybe Tarn, but for sure no one else.

    You lose sucka!

    Not the greatest of fans, but I’ve read the first thirteen or so.

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  126. Spawny Get says:

    I did (implicitly) ask Tarn about ‘Preacher’ yesterday by mentioning ‘Arseface’

    I don’t believe that she got the reference. tsk tsk

    The TV show shows promise. I’m wondering about getting the first book

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  127. Tarnished says:

    Each utensil’s word is final. All of us will be forced to use the fork as a spoon, to refer to it as a spoon, and to store it alongside the other spoons in the silverware drawer. If some of the other spoons don’t like it they need to get with the times.

    I’m always very skeeved out by referring to/comparing people as items, (like that overused Lock vs Key phrase…eww to the max) but regardless:

    Yes, each utensils word is final, because they know themselves better than anyone else. You’re not them. You don’t have any experience with what goes on in their mind.

    No, not everyone should be forced to categorize a spoon/fork as the opposite utensil. First of all, it just won’t happen, and secondly it is just as bad as some dickish moron who KNOWS a person’s preference and goes out of their fucking way to use the other terms/pronouns with the intent of shit-stirring.

    No, the other spoons/forks shouldn’t have to deal with it, but then they also should not get offended if the two-spirit utensils just up and leave the silverware drawer altogether, and instead go hang out with the toaster, who is more understanding.

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  128. Tarnished says:

    Only the graphic novel, Sumo.

    Ah, sorry, Spawny.
    Yes, get the book!

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  129. Tarnished says:

    It’s kind of the flip side but, for boys, it is nice to have the opposite sex perform a service. Is it nice for you to have a guy make your sandwich?

    I mean…food is food.
    Anyone who’s willing to make me a sandwich is nice in my book.

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  130. Tarnished says:

    In the words of Douglas Adams:

    Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

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  131. Spawny Get says:

    BEST MAKE SURE THAT NO CANADIANS WATCH THIS

    especially not for Sumo

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  132. SFC Ton says:

    No, the other spoons/forks shouldn’t have to deal with it, but then they also should not get offended if the two-spirit utensils just up and leave the silverware drawer altogether, and instead go hang out with the toaster, who is more understanding.
    ———-

    Who would be upset about pathogens removing themselves from the healthy section of society?

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  133. Sumo says:

    Only the graphic novel

    Which one? I know of a couple that have been produced.

    especially not for Sumo

    I watched it the first time you posted it. Sadly, it’s not even close to being news to me. We’re stuck with that moronic douchenozzle for at least 4 more years.

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  134. SFC Ton says:

    Umm….I like craft beers and weird cheese.
    ———
    You also need a hair cut.
    —————

    And I’m betting no one else here has read The Dresden Files.

    Maybe Tarn, but for sure no one else.
    —————-
    tired one of the books. It was awful, Show wasn’t any better

    As for police stealing your money road side, I prefer the honest corruption of South America and where have you over the legal immorality of amercian law enforcement, but as in all things, people need to understand there is no limit to governmental power these days. the idea of limited govt died in 1860, and died because yankees wanted the South to pay 80 some percentage of the tariffs while 90 some percent of that money was spent to improve the infrastructure up north

    nothing really changes. the police taking your money road side funds their jobs. Different in scale but no different then the tariff system of the 1860’s

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  135. Spawny Get says:

    “Who would be upset about pathogens removing themselves from the healthy section of society?”

    These people have been around since forever. I don’t care what people do in privacy of their own cutlery drawer. Or indeed if they do it elsewhere in a subtle way.

    However, as usual, the psychos are pushing four year olds to declare themselves special purple trans-penguins and take life taking / destroying drugs and surgery. I am sick of that shit. Same with the perve’s charter to enter toilets and changing rooms without any pretence of having any business there (e.g. some butch man-hating lesbian just walking into boys’ changing rooms because she feelz like a man at that moment)

    I’m sick of the extremists driving the public agenda. Most of them are mentally ill, the rest political activists from the left (pretty much the same thing IMHO)

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  136. Spawny Get says:

    That roadside robbery shit is unbelievable. Just another way to destroy the police. Taking money with menaces as a way to foster good public relations? Looks like the suicide of the legal enforcement industry to me.

    Liked by 3 people

  137. Sumo says:

    You also need a hair cut.

    I cannot express in mere words how much I appreciate the irony that a biker thinks that I need to cut my hair. 😀

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  138. Spawny Get says:

    “Different in scale but no different then the tariff system of the 1860’s”

    I think that the difference is that you have the scope to alienate huge swathes of normal people by robbing them with the threat of force (gun and/or legal system) while they’re just driving around doing their normal day to day stuff.

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  139. Spawny Get says:

    Could be useful

    Liked by 4 people

  140. Spawny Get says:

    Oxymoron? Court Rules Against North Carolina State University Policy of ‘Free Speech Permits’

    A federal judge has ruled against a policy in which students at North Carolina State University must obtain a permit before expressing themselves as a violation of the First Amendment.

    Liked by 2 people

  141. Yoda says:

    Also useful this is

    Liked by 4 people

  142. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda Excellent

    Liked by 2 people

  143. Yoda says:

    Of course, myself I am

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  144. Yoda says:

    Glorious Patriarch appears similar to Wicket he does

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  145. Spawny Get says:

    Meh. I’m a Palpatine who indulges in playing his own utter alter ego online. Like those masters of industry that like getting tied up and whipped by a dominatrix in their spare time.

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  146. Spawny Get says:

    I kind of see what you mean, but I do not like being the centre of attention in social scenes.

    Thanks for the compliment, unless you meant it as a heightest slur, or maybe that I don’t shave enough…or speak in a strange way (unlikely coming from you, obviously)

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  147. SFC Ton says:

    The slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy as in we all know if you give people an inch they will take a mile

    But…. That is my point Spawny. They have always been around but understood their actions were unhealthily and and unwanted so they kept their bullshit as discrete as possible or went to live with other degenerates. Like the homo migration to Francisco

    ———————
    I think that the difference is that you have the scope to alienate huge swathes of normal people by robbing them with the threat of force (gun and/or legal system) while they’re just driving around doing their normal day to day stuff.
    —————
    just like the tariffs. the money was to be extorted by the full force of the US govt on people who were engaged in their legal everyday commerce to benefit others

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  148. Spawny Get says:

    The reason that I recommend that people give a little space for people to do what they want to do (no harm to others) is that I want space to indulge my abnormal (in this country) hobbies. People carry out that hobby legally but it’s not made a big deal of lest the SJWankers wake up and stir up trouble. Camoron has already made stupid statements that cause concern. That’s why I’ve asked people not to talk up that issue on this blog, especially you 😉

    I generally prefer that people and the state leave people alone from personal philosophy, I’m just saying that there are practical reasons too. Restricting others freedoms can come back to haunt.

    This speech is describing the opposite scenario, unless you replace his ‘laws’ with your first and second amendments.

    I’m not all riled up over this, I’m just making sure that you understand that I’m not all warm and fluffy about unleashing SJW behaviour, but nor am I wanting to live the puritan life ruled by holier than though wingnuts either (strangley enough, also SJWs).

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  149. Spawny Get says:

    “just like the tariffs. the money was to be extorted by the full force of the US govt on people who were engaged in their legal everyday commerce to benefit others”

    I’ll ultimately bow to your superior knowledge on the tariffs, but literal highway robbery being enabled feels like another step beyond that. But that’s certainly not something we’re going to fall out over.

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  150. Yoda says:

    Six Britishers in the chart there is.
    Four good and two bad they would be

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  151. Spawny Get says:

    p.s. that film, ‘A man for all seasons’ is pretty good.

    Which reminds me, Ame asked for a list of great war movies
    Zulu
    140 British soldiers against 4000 Zulu warriors. Based on the battle for Rorke’s Drift on the 22nd and 23rd of January 1879. Film includes a favourite song of mine ‘Men of Harlech’

    Battle of Britain
    The few

    633 Squadron
    The Mosquito in action – Beautiful plane

    Another

    The Dambusters
    The bouncing bomb that the inventor said he’d never invented (due to the losses in the raid)

    More drama set in war as much as war films
    Sink the Bismark

    HMS Amethyst – Yangtse River Incident
    Lone British naval ship trapped in Chinese river. Attempts to fight its way out.

    Battle of the River Plate
    inferior British Empire naval forces against a German Pocket Battleship

    Went the day well?

    55 days at Peking

    El Cid

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  152. Tarnished says:

    “Who would be upset about pathogens removing themselves from the healthy section of society?”

    Precisely.
    Why be around someone who thinks of you as a pathogen? Just say “Hey, bud, you do you” and move along. Don’t force your way of life onto them…and expect the same, as much as possible.

    Spawny is pretty much saying all the things I would.

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  153. Spawny Get says:

    More bravado than realistic, from the start of The Battle of Britain film

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  154. Spawny Get says:

    The famous scene from the BoB where a Polish training flight is supposed to clear the battle area (concerns over communications meant that the brass were keeping them from battle). Don’t ask why a training flight was armed.

    The end credits of the film contains a list of the nationalities of all the pilots fighting the good fight.

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  155. Tarnished says:

    The reason that I recommend that people give a little space for people to do what they want to do (no harm to others) is that I want space to indulge my abnormal (in this country) hobbies.

    Naked walrus jousting?

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  156. Yoda says:

    Sink the Bismarck and Battle of Britain had hot chicks they did

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  157. Yoda says:

    Naked walrus jousting?

    So Seamus a walrus he is?

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  158. Yoda says:

    The University and College Union in England is banning straight white males from its equality conferences in order to create “safe spaces” for members.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/straight_white_males_banned_from_university_lecture_unions_equality_conferences.html

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  159. Spawny Get says:

    “Naked walrus jousting?”

    Just can’t hide anything from you

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  160. Yoda says:

    So why aren’t millennial women excited by the prospect of seeing the first female president in our lifetime? Precisely because the woman who might take that honor is Hillary Clinton

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/millennials-still-not-that-excited-by-prospect-of-first-woman-president/article/2593336

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  161. Yoda says:

    Queen comment on this she should

    We are told that there is one correct form of English, and deviating from grammar and pronunciation rules associates us with the working class. Not only is this classist, but it fortifies the idea that English has a “proper” form — even though every variation of English has been constructed.

    The kind of English that is privileged in job interviews, for instance, was made up like every other kind of English; it has no special value. But we’ve been taught that the version of English that middle-class white people speak is “correct.”…

    Immigrants of color are especially made to feel ashamed of their own languages, because their languages remind them that they are not white. Their languages remind them that who they are and where they come from will always taint them in the eyes of America.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/09/in-our-brave-new-world-the-proper-use-of-english-is-now-a-microagression/

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  162. Tarnished says:

    So Seamus a walrus he is?

    Nah. He’s thankfully very clean shaven. (I really dislike facial hair…as does he.)

    He’s a beluga.

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  163. Spawny Get says:

    Just coming to the end of a two hour tv debate. Online poll on who’s delivering best:

    Who is performing best so far:
    Stuart: 34%
    Leadsom: 24%
    Johnson: 15%
    Sturgeon: 11%
    Rudd: 10%
    Eagle: 4%
    #RedBoxReact http://thetimes.co.uk/redboxreact

    Brexiteers 1, 2 & 3

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  164. Ame says:

    Spawny Get says:

    9 June, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    p.s. that film, ‘A man for all seasons’ is pretty good.

    Which reminds me, Ame asked for a list of great war movies

    —–

    thank you Spawny, Oh Great Patriarch!

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  165. Ame says:

    it’s interesting these are all older movies.

    are there any good war/military movies from the last ten to twenty years? i’m curious as to what y’all find good and bad in this genre of film.

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  166. Spawny Get says:

    I watched Sink the Bismarck this afternoon, damned fine film.

    I’ll try and dig out Battle of the River Plate tomorrow.

    I forgot
    The Cruel Sea

    Ice cold in Alex – set in war, but really a struggle for survival in the desert. Based on a true story.

    Master and Commander – based on a superb series of books

    Last of the Mohicans

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  167. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Amt,
    There is The Alamo with Billy Bob Thornton, Gods and Generals, and Gettysburg. Producing big budget war films is too prohibitive but, Ted Turner does have an advantage with his. reenacters are happy to volunteer their time. That way, he can have a cast of thousands.

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  168. Spawny Get says:

    Saving Private Ryan was good.

    ‘Fury’ till the end where it got a little silly.

    Older films have more soul, on the whole.

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  169. Spawny Get says:

    Haven’t seen The Alamo yet. Looking forward to that.

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  170. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Ger,
    While it may be better to keep my mouth shut, there was some discussion earlier and I think a point needs to be clarified. That we are all subject to the law should be foundational. If Queen Elizabeth spat on the sidewalk and there was an ordinance against it, would she not be breaking the law? It’s all theoretical as she is not about to spit on any sidewalks.

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  171. Spawny Get says:

    A bit lacking in character depth, but very watchable with a beer or three. TV shows
    Sharpe series
    Hornblower series

    Wartime detective series (very good stories)
    Foyle’s War

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  172. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I like it it because it doesn’t stop with the fall of the Alamo. It tells the story of San Jacinto which is one of the most significant of all time and no one has done a film of it.

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  173. Spawny Get says:

    Ooh ooh Question Time with Nigel Farage just started. To be followed by This Week hosted by Andrew Brillo Neil
    I will be distracted for the foreseeable future…

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  174. Cill says:

    I went to “Master and Commander” with a group of friends, otherwise I wouldn’t have gone. I doubted that a movie could do justice to Patrick O’Brian’s books, but actually I wasn’t disappointed. The movie did quite a good job of it.

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  175. Ame says:

    thanks, Men! i’m making a list 🙂

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  176. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    Here’s another.I stumbled across it on youtube. While it is not great, it is a good watch and it deals with battle of paramount historical importance that is cinegraphically overlooked.

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  177. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I must have Saxons on the brain today. If it weren’t for them, we wouldn’t have the tradition of Rule of Law.

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  178. Ame says:

    Cill – I have this series but haven’t read it yet … is this the one you’re talking about?
    http://tal.forum2.org/aubrey

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  179. David Foster says:

    Yoda..”The kind of English that is privileged in job interviews, for instance, was made up like every other kind of English; it has no special value. But we’ve been taught that the version of English that middle-class white people speak is “correct.””

    Actually, one of the greatest linguistic prejudices in America is against people who speak with a noticeable Southern accent. There have actually been studies on this. And for certain jobs, there is a definite prejudice *for* people who speak with a slightly-British-accented English of the type associated with the Ivy League. One of the reasons for the hate directed against Sara Palin was that she didn’t attempt to enunciate like a Harvard girl.

    But the people who talk about ‘microaggressions’ are unlikely to point out these factors…

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  180. Cill says:

    Ame, yes, Patrick O’Brian’s “Aubrey/Maturin” series.

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  181. Spawny Get says:

    Not a good night for the remainiacs. BBC question time is usually lefty wankfest. Tonight the remainiacs got another thorough kicking. Eddie Izzard was stellar for brexit, shame he’s supposed to be a remainer.

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  182. Spawny Get says:

    Ame, the Aubrey Maturin series is fantastic.

    Tu as corrompré mon parasseau

    (Spelling is approximate) had me in stitches of laughter. The whole scene was epic (from the books)

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  183. Spawny Get says:

    “You have debauched my sloth”

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  184. Cill says:

    Let me have a go at mixing privileged / uvver English:

    Jolly good show, me old garden gate.

    (in response to Spawny’s “Tonight the remainiacs got another thorough kicking”.)

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  185. Spawny Get says:

    Farage and Izzard on Question Time. Farage was great. Eddie Izzard was catastrophic for his side 😉

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  186. Spawny Get says:

    Jerry Springer and Michael Moore currently telling Brillo that Trump won’t win…

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  187. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Do I see a ‘facepalm”?
    I do! I do see a “facepalm”!
    (Imagine Tweety Bird saying this.)

    “You have debauched my sloth.” That is a new low.

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  188. Spawny Get says:

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  189. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, it (that story element) had me in stitches. Perfect.

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  190. Spawny Get says:

    “Voters are twice as likely to have been persuaded to vote to leave the EU by listening to David Cameron than convinced to remain, according to a new poll.”

    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/and-finally/pm-having-effect-of-encouraging-voters-to-back-brexit-34788252.html

    Bwahaha

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  191. Spawny Get says:

    Michael Moore getting a light Brillo’ing for spouting shite about the glories of mainland Europe

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  192. Spawny Get says:

    You might notice that the highlights are all from one side. You’d be right. The video is accurate. That is all.

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  193. horseman says:

    Except for the true love part excellent speech.

    All books by C.S. Forester especially The Good Shepard.
    Sink the Bismark and B.O.B. favorite movies plus Captains Couragous

    Dont you guys work? or sleep. Geez Im just sitting down to dinner. Lots to catch up on.
    Brexit yes but I am second generation Scots so like to see a seperate homeland too.

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  194. horseman says:

    Hub teaching manners to some punks.

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  195. horseman says:

    Life’s simple pleasues. A covered porch, cool lemonade, and a carton of 10 gauge hand loads.

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  196. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    They tried it before and failed. Have you seen this?

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  197. Ame says:

    this is what y’all have given me so far:

    Best Military/War Movies from Spawny’s:

    By Year:

    1. Captains Courageous – 1937
    2. The First of the Few (US title Spitfire) – 1942
    3. Went the day well? – 1942
    4. Battle of Britain – 1943
    5. The Cruel Sea – 1953
    6. The Dam Busters – 1955 – (The bouncing bomb that the inventor said he’d never invented – due to the losses in the raid)
    7. The Battle of the River Plate (aka in the United States as Pursuit of the Graf Spee) – 1956
    inferior British Empire naval forces against a German Pocket Battleship
    8. Yangtse Incident – 1957 – (Lone British naval ship trapped in Chinese river. Attempts to fight its way out.)
    9. Ice cold in Alex – 1958
    10. Sink the Bismarck – 1960
    11. El Cid – 1961
    12. The Longest Day – 1962
    13. 55 days at Peking – 1963
    14. 633 Squadron – 1964 – (The Mosquito in action – Beautiful plane)
    15. Zulu – 1964 – (140 British soldiers against 4000 Zulu warriors. Based on the battle for Rorke’s Drift on the 22nd and 23rd of January 1879. Film includes a favourite song of mine ‘Men of Harlech’)
    16. Mosquito Squadron – 1969
    17. Patton- 1970
    18. Tora, Tora, Tora – 1970
    19. A Bridge Too Far – 1977
    20. Last of the Mohicans – 1992
    21. Gettysburg – 1993
    22. Sharpe series – 1993-1997; 2006, 2010
    23. Hornblower series – 1998-2003
    24. Saving Private Ryan – 1998
    25. Band of Brothers – 2001
    26. Foyle’s War TV Series – 2002-2015
    27. Master and Commander – 2003
    28. Gods and Generals – 2003
    29. The Alamo with Billy Bob Thornton – 2004
    30. 1066: The Battle for Middle Earth – 2009
    31. Fury – 2014

    Alphabetical:

    1. 55 days at Peking – 1963
    2. 633 Squadron – 1964 – (The Mosquito in action – Beautiful plane)
    3. 1066: The Battle for Middle Earth – 2009
    4. A Bridge Too Far – 1977
    5. The Alamo with Billy Bob Thornton – 2004
    6. Battle of Britain – 1943
    7. The Battle of the River Plate (aka in the United States as Pursuit of the Graf Spee) – 1956 – (inferior British Empire naval forces against a German Pocket Battleship)
    8. Band of Brothers – 2001
    9. Captains Courageous – 1937
    10. The Cruel Sea – 1953
    11. The Dam Busters – 1955 – (The bouncing bomb that the inventor said he’d never invented – due to the losses in the raid)
    12. El Cid – 1961
    13. The First of the Few (US title Spitfire) – 1942
    14. Foyle’s War TV Series – 2002-2015
    15. Fury – 2014
    16. Gettysburg – 1993
    17. Gods and Generals – 2003
    18. Hornblower series – 1998-2003
    19. Ice cold in Alex – 1958
    20. Last of the Mohicans – 1992
    21. The Longest Day – 1962
    22. Master and Commander – 2003
    23. Mosquito Squadron – 1969
    24. Patton- 1970
    25. Saving Private Ryan – 1998
    26. Sharpe series – 1993-1997; 2006, 2010
    27. Sink the Bismarck – 1960
    28. Tora, Tora, Tora – 1970
    29. Went the day well? – 1942
    30. Yangtse Incident – 1957 – (Lone British naval ship trapped in Chinese river. Attempts to fight its way out.)
    31. Zulu – 1964 – (140 British soldiers against 4000 Zulu warriors. Based on the battle for Rorke’s Drift on the 22nd and 23rd of January 1879. Film includes a favourite song of mine ‘Men of Harlech’)

    Best Military/War Books from Spawny’s:

    Master and Commander, Aubrey/Maturin Novels – by Patrick O’Brian
    All books by: C.S. Forester, especially The Good Shepard

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  198. molly says:

    UncaS “Voters are twice as likely to have been persuaded to vote to leave the EU by listening to David Cameron than convinced to remain, according to a new poll.”

    That is so sweeet! HAHAHAHA
    Tee Hee Hee. Lol

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  199. horseman says:

    p.s. Justin is not indicative of Canadians. Hell, Lester Pearson created U.N. peacekeeping.
    Pierre Elliot Trudeau his father was a great P.M. for a Liberal. Invoked the War Measures Act when FLQ terrorists took hostages. Obama would never invoked marshal law on their own soil. P.E.T. is rolling in his grave.

    p.s. P.E.T. was 50 and P.M. when he married Margaret who was 22.

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  200. Farm Boy says:

    The “Battle of Britain” movie that I was thinking about was made in 1970.

    Foyle’s War was pretty good. As was Horatio Hornblower and Share’s.

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  201. Cill says:

    O the Camermong poll. There is cruel joy to be had.

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  202. Ame says:

    Farm Boy – oops … that was a typo … I fixed it on my list. the Wikipedia link shows 1969.

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  203. horseman says:

    http://www.famousfix.com/topic/high-society-magazine-united-states-september-1979

    While she was 1st lady. Who says canadians are boring. Kinda explains Justin though.

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  204. Cill says:

    Jerry Springer and Michael Moore? Those two clowns! What are they doing there.

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  205. Spawny Get says:

    “Brexit yes but I am second generation Scots so like to see a seperate homeland too.”

    The SNP are desperate to stay in the EU.

    Nicola Sturgeon, reichskommandant of the Scot’s Nazi Party has been on UK national tv tonight arguing that the UK shouldn’t split from the EU, but Scotland would be better out of the UK (but certainly part of the EU).
    So no separate homeland on offer. And if you’re mystified by the Nazi reference I suggest that you investigate the actions of the SNP activists during that referendum and since. Many tales of violence and intimidation to be found outside of the MSM.

    The SNP blatant hatred of England and the English actually helped Camoron to win the general election. The prospect of the English and Welsh Labour party helped into power by the SNP (and held to ransom by it) caused many a voter to vote Tory. There are rumours that that was the preferred result for the SNP because they could continue to milk the hatred of SNP Scotland ruled by Tories in Westminster.

    If a way could be found to secure the border, I have no problem with that split. Scotland joining the EU would have to be part of the EU passport free Schengen zone, so the border issue isn’t me being bitchy about the Scots. There is going to be a Northern Ireland / Republic of Ireland border issue if we brexit. Eire isn’t part of the Schengen Zone, so that helps a little.

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  206. horseman says:

    Howze about Britian exits, the two Irelands work it out and we give Quebec back to France.
    I mean who the hell speaks French (pardon moi, Quebeqouis) in Trump’s North America?

    Seriously we have two official languages (three if you count Newfie)

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  207. Spawny Get says:

    There are some posts and comments on the Scottish independence vote on the blog BTW. Nothing that will upset anyone. Most English sentiment centred around ‘if you’re that unhappy maybe you should go, we don’t particularly want you to, but…’

    With oil at such a low price the SNP is in no rush for another vote just yet. Much easier being on the inside blaming everything on us, than to pay their own way and have no one to blame but themselves. But that’s the story with many lefty parties including the Labour party and Plaid Cymru. They’re happier in opposition, it’s easy and safe. That’s why Corbyn’s unelectability is not regarded as an issue by true believer hard lefties. Same as Bernie, I reckon.

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  208. Spawny Get says:

    I don’t know any English people that wouldn’t be happy if the two Irelands could work out how to peacefully integrate and go their own way. Not from any ill will against the Northern Irish.

    I remember watching a (subtitled) French film and wondering about the fucked up accents (mine is far far far worse). I checked and yep, it was made in Quebec. Film was okay. I was mostly impressed that I noticed the off accents. When I first arrived in France I couldn’t tell that a woman speaking French to me was actually Italian.

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  209. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  210. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! burrito, burrito, burrito, 🐻 roll
    Upthread, someone threatened that the price of ice cream would go up. I’ll bet you can export ice cream from New Zealand and undercut current purveyors.
    Yay!!!! Molly is going international!

    Spawny Get,
    At this point, playing the Norwegian National Anthem is a political statement.
    Let’s start a trend!

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  211. Sumo says:

    we give Quebec back to France.

    I’d much rather draw the line along the eastern borders of Nunavet and Manitoba and cut off the rot at the source. It was mostly due to eastern Canada that pot smoking daddy’s boy was elected, so y’all can have him.

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  212. Liz says:

    “This is going to be the ugliest Presidential in living memory.”

    Yes. It might get ugly WAY before the election, too (at least, John Robb, the global guerrillas guy, thinks the tipping point will be Cleveland in July).
    http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com

    Someone on a military blog made this comment a while back:
    “Can you feel the USA is just one serious event away from torches and pitchforks?
    Will it be productive citizens rising up to fight a conspiracy of injustice?
    …or the parasite class burning the area to protest a lack of instant gratification?
    While the last few elections have been filled with some shady antics, one could guess any questionable procedures or results in the upcoming presidential election could set off a bit of social unrest on the loser’s side.”

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  213. Liz says:

    The graduations, farewells, and festivities continue in here….this morning I’m nursing a headache. I’m not used to this much social activity. I guess it’s good preparation for my near future.
    Very glad some folks find my anecdotes amusing. 😀

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  214. SFC Ton says:

    Spawny, the old live and let live social contract only worked when the degenerates up held their end of the bargain and kept things discreet or on the seedy side of town.

    Now the degenerate want to be praised, celebrated and damn near worshiped which is causing all sorts of issues.

    The social rot of the West is killing us as a people. The choice isn’t between a boot to the degenerates heads or leaving them be; the choose is between a boot to their head or being a replaced as a people and a foreigners boot to all of our heads

    Various ideals sound great and make people feel war and fuzzy yet fail in the real world. Egalitarianism/ libertarians ideals are some of those

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  215. Spawny Get says:

    “…yet fail in the real world. Egalitarianism/ libertarians ideals are some of those”

    They can be. I’m in favour of turning things round and see how she goes. It’ll be a long time till you and I disagree on when enough is enough.

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