Swallowing the Red Pill


Over at Dalrock’s, our Glorious Patriarch asserted,

I guess some men can only understand the Red Pill when applied as a suppository. Usually via divorce.

This is a large open-ended subject.  The question is: how to feed the red-pill to men?  The reason that it is so large is that there are men of greatly varied ages and experiences.  Obviously one size will not fit all.  Perhaps suggestions might be made as to how to overcome common issues

A common problem is that of sunk costs.  Men have much time and resources invested in the blue pill, and it is so very difficult to walk away from it.  For many, understanding a red-pill path forward would be difficult; as truly understanding the entire picture takes time and effort.  Better to just stay in the present comfortable (or perhaps not so comfortable) world.

Another issue is that by going red-pill, one effectively is going against society; what they tell you to think and do.  Some perceive being non-conformist as being cool, but the red-pill is not cool; at least not the the people of society who decide what cool is.  So who needs that type of flack from others?

Ideas  anybody?

 

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229 comments on “Swallowing the Red Pill
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Our glorious Patriarch has it right for most men. They will come to the red pill through divorce. We do have to be caredull administering it. Sepression is a side effect. The Farm Bot method of answering a question with another question to spur reglection is a good idea.

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  2. horseman says:

    Dibs! First! Ya!

    Oh shut up!

    As Morphious said past a certain point it is cruel to unplug.

    Guy 40s. Fat wife bad sex but tolerable.
    two kids mid teens college or camping in badement on horizon.
    Mortgage barely above water owing 200-250k
    Boring job but after twelve years its not worth firing him
    twenty years to maybe kids gone house paid half a pension.

    You rip open his eyes and……

    Whatever small comfort in its as good as he is gonna get…gone replaced by anger, jealousy, hopelessness. It is not possible for him to start over.

    But the kids nowadays have the red pill implanted (see my last comment at RPGs) because of what they saw.

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  3. horseman says:

    Bear!

    Damn you fast paws!

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  4. Spawny Get says:

    It’s a fair cop, I seldom comment at Dalrock’s, but I respect his work. I read there quite often.

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  5. horseman says:

    Messenger rising does this wonderful video of picking yourself up after having the pill forcefully applied by divorce or other trauma. This video literally saved my life.
    Plus he recites IF so beautifully.

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  6. Spawny Get says:

    My comment was in reply to the preceding comment by SuperSlavisWife, which ended thusly

    As a slightly humorous aside, regarding: “No one believes that a woman will in any way make your life better.” One of those very men described above told my husband the other day “It’s hard for a young single guy like me to save any money, you’re lucky to be married, because it means you have money.” The logic is not very strong in my generation, apparently. That or we are the only example of a relationship he has ever scrutinized, as most married men would agree the opposite is generally true. He’s currently attempting to find a girl for a LTR/marriage and is in for a rude awakening if this is what he believes.

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  7. Ame says:

    advice for mom’s raising sons?

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  8. horseman says:

    Ame

    Somewhere get a male influence in their lives.
    An uncle, clergy, coach, teacher.
    Someone red pill or old school.
    You cannot relate to them as a man
    anymore than I could be a Mom to Little Miss.

    Its why we need families. To give both kids both sides of the human experience.
    Otherwise we are can see the world but be deaf to the music,
    hear the lesson but be blind to the reality.

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  9. Spawny Get says:

    That video by Messenger Rising shows the power of a normal man speaking the truth to other men. That’s a normal man’s accent from somewhere around London (is my guess). Not the voice of privilege.

    My recollection is that he’s been in gaol a few times as a consequence of divorce proceedings.

    Afor is another English guy who escaped that by sheer luck, his ex-wife planted kiddypron on his pc and called the police. Not a man to mince his words.

    There are all kinds of MGTOW being forged in this society.

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  10. horseman says:

    I like Dalrock especially his data and his early take on post divorce spinsters and EPL.
    Just wish he’d go back to mainstream from the churchy microcosm. Respect his beliefs just its a small population with unique issue

    (and long term married Taoist Canuck Horse Ranchers are such an in group. 😇

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  11. Spawny Get says:

    Being a nonbeliever makes me feel more comfortable as a reader rather than commenter. Not that I’ve ever had pushback. Dalrock’s is one reason why I actually have a little more time for grounded religion than I did previously. It’s good to see principled opposition to the churchians.

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  12. horseman says:

    I was suicidal when I stumbled on that video. His plain words of truth literally turned me back from the abyss.

    He doesnt post often but they are always practical, non political and oftern hard to hear but so necessary.
    This one I watch whenever I need a yes the world is shit so do something for yourself kick in the arse.

    (Accent is Liverpool if I recall correctly. He was jailed for defending himself when his wife came at him with a knife. Arrested in hospital.)

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  13. Ame says:

    Horseman –
    thanks for that advice.
    and that video – wow.

    y’all … i know it’s probably wasted, and i don’t hold much weight, but … i’m so very sorry. what’s been done to y’all is so wrong. i wish i could hug everyone of you and slap the women who’ve hurt you. you don’t deserve this. i’m so sorry.

    any advice for raising my daughters?

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  14. Ame says:

    Horseman –
    “I was suicidal when … .”

    sadly, you’re not the first man i’ve heard admit that harsh truth. idk why women get so mean and selfish. i hate it. when i try to tell them how much more severely men are affected than women can even begin to imagine, i sometimes feel like i’m talking to a brick wall. but as has been said often, it’s about frame, and i find that i need to build new frames for women so they can see the truth. there are some women worth taking the time to build these new frames.

    i’m thankful the internet exists so you can have a support group out there.

    thanks for letting me be a part of this group. i know your man-groups are sacred. i do not want to dishonor any of you in any way. i do not take your acceptance lightly.

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  15. horseman says:

    Acceptance among men is earned.
    The newcomer is never rejected for being new.
    They are looked upon like a kid brother until they earn their place.
    Even the useless are accepted if they keep their place
    One is only ejected if they jeopardize the group or the work.
    It is why men build up rather than tear down.

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  16. Spawny Get says:

    That’s not a liverpudlian accent aka scouse.

    Maybe I need a retune though. His accent sounds very normal to me.

    I’m very glad that he was there when you looked.

    I don’t think that being alone is what kills men (via suicide), it’s feeling that they’re bad, or they failed because they were wrong in some way. Having a plausible bloke telling you that you may well have done nothing wrong, that you’ve perhaps been wronged, can stop the hate from turning inwards. Very important with men.

    Being that voice, or one as part of a conversation, can save the next guy / boy. That’s why MGTOWs that can handle that conversation shouldn’t just disappear off into the night (as Femeroids wish they would – “okay, okay, we can’t argue against you, but please shut up and go your own way quietly, so we can fuck the next guy over’).

    MGTOW is ‘Team man’. PUA is ‘Team little head thinker’. MRA is ‘Team husband/father wannabe’.

    Men should feel free to move among them.

    Good night

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  17. horseman says:

    ame and others

    if you have stout heart watch Messenger Rising channel from the beginning.
    He went thru hell, chronicals it in plain terms and never gives in to hate or pity.
    and his healing is visible to where his latest philosophy based stuff is genius.

    Especially the ones tagged Monks Code his philosophy of self improvement inside or outside of mgtow.

    I personally am mgtow in rejecting the normal game but I find women amusing like watching toddlers trying to build blocks. I dont hate them, I like the one I live with, its just I dont trust them. I even enjoy their company watching them try to figure out a guy who is immune to them. “Its like handing a handgun to a toddler Wade, you never know what’s going to happen but you’re pretty sure its gonna make the papers.” (god I love that movie!)

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  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    If I were in your shoes, I would be asking Liz. She hass done a good job with her two boys.

    Horseman,
    One good video deserves another. Thsi one takes me away from my problems.

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  19. Spawny Get says:

    Norah Vincent dressed as a passing man, her observations on how male groups opened up and accepted ‘him’ were quite good. What she found was not what she expected.

    Not sure who made the best video about her/him

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  20. Spawny Get says:

    I enjoyed Messenger’s early stuff, but sort of lost track of him. He never said anything that sounded ‘off’ to me. He has heart and soul.

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  21. Ame says:

    Fuzzie –
    one of my all-time fav movies! one i can watch over and over 🙂

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  22. horseman says:

    Spawny nails it again.

    It was not loneliness. Hell most men feel alone 70%+

    It was the failure. As a father, husband, man
    The futility of it. If everything I ever did was a lie why continue. I wasn’t going to.

    Then those words. “You. You Matter. For You. Build it better, stronger. Or They Win. They don’t deserve that. YOU DO.”

    In that moment I stepped back and began rebuilding.

    I will never be able to buy Messenger a beer.
    So I buy one for the next Brother. and I listen.

    p.s. PUAs are overgrown juvenille arseholes.

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  23. horseman says:

    the Bear has impeccible taste.

    Spawny
    he went by Mgtow Messenger and is now Messenger Rising.

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    For me, it is dealing with the death of dreams and hope. I found my way here trying to figure out why my luck with dating was so bad. It wasn’t divorce with kids, thank God.

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  25. Spawny Get says:

    Always loved his instrumentals

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    That is one of the best scenes on flim .

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  27. horseman says:

    Old and wise. me now enjoying autumn of my life.

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  28. horseman says:

    ame

    ame

    to understand what we have lost as modern men.
    For decades I believed in these words.
    Thought I was the lucky one and had it.
    Now it is not Lost
    Lost would mean it existed and hope in its finding

    I now KNOW it is an illusion.

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  29. horseman says:

    Know what a MGTOW is?

    Max (holding deadman’s switch of world ending device) “Since you can’t shoot me…”

    Clay (Mr MGTOW to you) Blam!!

    Max (now with bleeding shoulder wound) “Damnit That Hurt!”

    (and Cougar he says five words in the whole movie but has the highest count including Wade)

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I always liked this film.

    Three guesses as to who wrote the music.

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  31. Yoda says:

    Horseman’s video wise it is.
    Almost wiser than me it would be.
    Almost…

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Hey! Tarn’s back

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  33. Tarnished says:

    A common problem is that of sunk costs. Men have much time and resources invested in the blue pill, and it is so very difficult to walk away from it.

    Ah, but this is changing. I too have seen the phenomenon of upcoming generations, including a decent chunk of my own, already having accepted a portion of RP thinking. Those who are currently in their 30s like myself are one of the first groups to whom divorce was not only common, but “normal”. The situation is even worse in the black community than the white, with single moms and missing dads being very typical, most especially in urban areas. There is little challenge in getting these populations to agree with RP truths…After all, they grew up only halfway connected to the BP.

    For many, understanding a red-pill path forward would be difficult; as truly understanding the entire picture takes time and effort. Better to just stay in the present comfortable (or perhaps not so comfortable) world.

    I’ve said this before, but the Purple Pill is a good form of moderation. It entails learning about RP philosophies, taking what you need and/or applies to your situation, and discarding the rest. Of course, it also means accepting that some men really do need the full RP experience, so you still point them to it.

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    Dr Evil chimes in

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  35. SFC Ton says:

    even a lesbian who dressed like a man, and is semi masculine friendly has to break out the men are emotionally stunted women bullshit

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  36. SFC Ton says:

    The purple pill is how women co-op the red pill and turn a pro masculine stance advantageous to women

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  37. BuenaVista says:

    TRP is an absolute — a condition like “wet” or “dry”. I’ve never seen any so-called purple pill successfully argue for “damp.” The purple pill is the idea that men should act a certain way, provided the women they know remain comfortably in command of all the old pretty lies.

    For example, one doesn’t discuss hypergamy or the true dynamics of divorce or the corruption of the legal and criminal infrastructure (as regards men and divorce) with “purple pill” females. All the purple pill thinking assumes the world is a better place if men Man UP! and play their role in the feminine imperative — albeit with some charming pseudo-masculine flourishes. It’s like watching drippy accountants dress up in shiny new leathers and jump on a Yamaha and pretend to be outlaw bikers cruising a custom stroker.. The purple pill is just women saying, “Come back, I’ll be nice this time.”

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  38. BuenaVista says:

    Two disagreements with FB:

    1. I don’t think you can “feed” TRP to anyone, as though it’s a catechism. Rather it’s a mode of operation, and a perspective, that either is compelling to another man or it’s not. But talking about TRP is generally the quickest way to throw a man, much less a woman, into a defensive frenzy of rationalizing the status quo. This is all the so-called “purple pill” is, incidentally: red pill lite. “Red Pill Lite” is an internally contradictory term.

    2. While going red pill definitely “goes against society”, perhaps this is more a commentary on society. Throughout the conversion of our society to a feminine-primary society, we all simultaneously inhaled the lessons of heroic, or charming, or roguish mascunlinity. While I perhaps represented a fairly successful greater beta lifestyle when married (at home, not at work), it never occurred to me that the life I was leading domestically was the antithesis of many of the heroic masculinity virtues that I simultaneously had spent my life studying. So in this respect going red pill and being red pill is easier than trying to succeed being blue or purple — the very conditions that we’re told make us evolved and mature and woman-friendly and desirable.

    Before the hammer drops, and you realize everything you lived for were just so many privileges that the state and a capricious spouse can take from you. Evangelicals talk about the conversion of “crisis Christians” — people whose lives are wrecked in some way, and for whom conversion may be their only last hope before self-obliteration. Spawny’s suppository conversion fits this model, I think, and I think it is an apt metaphor.

    Net: unless you want to hear approximately everyone in your life say not all women are like that you bitter loser (men and women will say this), there’s little point in talking about TRP. First rule of fight club, etc. I have several male casual male friends who, in some ways, resemble red pill thinking or effects in their personal lives. But talk to them about it? They’ll think you’re a freak. Better to just *be* RP, if you must: the example might become the lifeline they need at some point.

    RP is just so explanatory, just so predictive that it helps everyone understand an existence that supercedes “happy wife, happy life” pointlessness. It doesn’t make it any more pleasant that it’s accurate (in my case, anyhow). It doesn’t do anything about the sleepless nights, the loss of patrimony, of family legacy, of social approval, of even one’s legal status.

    A man needs to find new things to live for, and from time to time a man in distress may reach out when he’s lost what he used to live for, as well as the convicted certainty that he was aspiring to Good Things. Some do, some don’t.

    I was thinking about one of my former staff this week who lost the usual everything, including his son, in his divorce.

    I was married, blue pill, solicitous but not understanding when we worked together. I just learned that he blew his brains out last week. For some reason, NAWALT was thin gruel, for him. We need to keep our eyes open for those guys and offer them something more than the treacly “sympathy” that is generally the best they encounter. For someone like him, purple pill thinking is a grotesque deception, a way to lie to him yet again about the objective condition of this sea we’re swimming in.

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  39. I share red pill concepts w other women, what I have found works well is to tell a “story” about someone else that somehow drives home the rp w/o me explicitly saying it.

    I would agree mellenials I have talked with seem to get it already, even if they have never heard of trp.

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  40. Or many of my friends know I follow “a blog” and they have watched me change over the past few years. Sometimes I will say, “the guys on that blog say…” and they are always curious to hear about it. Many want to know “what blog?” But I don’t say bc I don’t want to have to start censoring myself.

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  41. SFC Ton says:

    the red pill is truth; anything else is some degree of a lie. the blue pill is all lies all the time the purple pill is a lie to a lesser extent. perhaps its the lesser of two evils but it is still evil

    it is internally easier on a man to live within the truth. the only way for a man to be content is to live within the truth. the type of success in life which allows a man to be content with himself despite all the ups and downs, wins and losses is to always live in the truth

    in other-words for a man to be content with the ups and downs of his life, his life must be rooted in the hard realities of life

    preach the red pill in all things; use your red pill words only when #1) you have to #2) there are no better options, Otherwise keep your mouth shut and live the sort of life other men wish they could

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  42. Spawny Get says:

    “it is internally easier on a man to live within the truth. the only way for a man to be content is to live within the truth. the type of success in life which allows a man to be content with himself despite all the ups and downs, wins and losses is to always live in the truth ”

    Yep.

    The prevalence of women on anti-depressants suggests to me that it’s also true for some women, but to a lesser degree. It takes until gynocentrism stops working for them and then some of them start being able to perceive reality…that’s when the problem starts for these women.

    Perhaps the increasing number of boys on Ritalin etc is related to their being raised on lies and distortions too?

    Feminism is cancer. H/T Milo

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  43. BuenaVista says:

    It occurs to me that publicly discussing RP tenets is a lot like publicly discussing Christian concepts: people react poorly when their existing POV is not simply affirmed. Most of my friends are secular, or religious liberals (arguably, another internally contradictory, and disqualifying, term). They seem respectful if they observe or witness some act of faith (say, my silently praying for a moment at a table filled with people immediately tearing into their food; my noting that I no longer work on Sundays unless it’s mission critical). Their skin crawls and they offer disparaging snark if confronted with explicit faith.

    So it’s like the way the mainstream admires the movie Fight Club, or Narnia series, but doesn’t want to confront the underlying realities on which both works are based.

    I am trying, in my own fiction, to write stories that are red pill without every acknowledging the concept: without ever launching into TRP polemics that we are comfortable with in this cocoon. This, after all, is what Lewis and Tolkein managed in their fantasies. I am a pretty well-read guy, but I was in my 40’s before I even knew that Lewis was a (if not the) pre-eminent Christian apologist of the 20th century — and this was after I had read the entirety of Narnia to my children.

    It works the other way around, as well. I visited with a pastor last Thursday and we were discussing the oddity of a cradle Unitarian becoming a conservative Lutheran. He asked me about my experience at another conservative church in town, and I told him that I enjoyed the pastor’s work very much, but that he was imposing the completarian feminism on the church that Dalrock’s been discussing lately. This pastor’s brain seem to short-shift and lug and then stall out completely. It meant that “feminist”, to him, is a word of virtue, not an epithet. He said, “Now I understand, BV, that you’ve had a bad experience with women …” which is a pastor’s way of saying, “NAWALT you bitter loser”. Note to self: do not use the word “feminist” in church because no one wants to ask themselves what it really means today.

    Oh, and in a further irony, the Lutheran pastor I visited with read the Narnia series to his children — but had never read any of Lewis’ apologetics. (I assume because they diverge, in their reasoning and skepticism and dislike for denominational spitball fights.)

    TRP is incendiary because it is true. Reactions to unpleasant truths are defensive if not accusatory.

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  44. Yoda says:

    they offer disparaging snark if confronted

    Common for liberal types this is.
    When logic, facts and reality on their side not,
    only weapon that they have this is.
    When see it I do,
    know that they realize that lost the argument they have

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  45. Yoda says:

    Probably for most, a go slow approach works best it does.
    Otherwise dig in heals they do.
    The question is what go slow approach to choose?

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  46. Yoda says:

    Somebody precisely define the purple pill they can?

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  47. Yoda says:

    Moehau Mans learn the red pill they do?
    If so, how would it be?

    Like

  48. Spawny Get says:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/the-backlash-against-the-nus-has-begun/

    In a move that has left student union politicos across the country clinging to their therapy dogs, the University of Lincoln Students’ Union has voted to disaffiliate from the NUS [National Union of Students]. Springing from the new, anti-NUS sentiment that is brewing on campuses across the country, Lincoln students voted 881 to 804 to leave.

    This was a big breakthrough, putting wind in the sails of disaffiliation campaigns currently being fought at York, Oxford, Exeter and Manchester. And though this was all sparked by the election of new NUS president Malia Bouattia – the overgrown student fond of waxing lyrical about the ‘zionist-led media’ – the gulf between NUS leadership and its members has been growing for years.

    Hope the NUS dies. They were no-platforming people at my Uni in the eighties…fuck ’em all.

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  49. Yoda says:

    TRP is incendiary because it is true

    Not only true it is, but also hands a measure of power to men as individuals it does.
    Scary to many this is

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  50. SFC Ton says:

    The prevalence of women on anti-depressants suggests to me that women do horrible when they aren’t owned like chattel by fathers’ or husbands’

    the increasing number of boys on Ritalin etc is related to a feminized society’s pathological hate for healthy masculinity

    women were not created to be liberated or to hold any sort of formal power

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  51. Yoda says:

    people react poorly when their existing POV is not simply affirmed.

    This they do.
    Often the most “open-minded” people are simply not

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  52. SFC Ton says:

    Somebody precisely define the purple pill they can?
    —-
    the purple pill is an induction of blue pill lies into red pill truths so women can maintain the ability to device and manipulate men thus ensuring the feminine imperative

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  53. Yoda says:

    Always the feminine imperative it is.
    Perhaps why the word “imperative” is used in it it is

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  54. Yoda says:

    I guess some men can only understand the Red Pill when applied as a suppository. Usually via divorce.

    And even then, often not

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  55. SFC Ton says:

    also, women electing to push the feminine imperative isn’t a conciseness decision on their part, it simply their biological programming, natural bad easy like breathing

    thinking women can over come their biological programming puts you in the purple pill/ FI camp

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  56. BuenaVista says:

    The Purple Pill is happy talk that affirms feminine primary aspirations while ignoring the triumphalist feminist impulse that has objectively made men powerless, in law and justice, if a woman chooses to attack him and his family.

    Purple Pill enthusiasts think its super cool to be in a relationship with a manly man, provided they (the women) don’t lose their superordinate control of cash, prizes, and the ability to steal children and imprison men.

    Purple Pill women like it when a man pretends to be in charge, or impersonates a successful man professionally so that she has more time to “work on herself.”

    99% of the women in the manosphere are Purple Pill.

    Purple Pill women don’t want to sign pre-nups because “I’ll be nice this time.” The ones who do know that pre-nups no longer have binding value so woo-hoo!.

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  57. SFC Ton says:

    100% of the women in the manosphere are Purple Pill.

    otherwise, legit

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  58. thedeti says:

    Ditto BV and ton.

    The Red Pill isn’t something you can force feed a guy. Red Pill isn’t for proselytizing, I think.

    I’ll have more to say later, I think, unless BV hasn’t said it already.

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  59. Tarnished says:

    The purple pill is how women co-op the red pill and turn a pro masculine stance advantageous to women.

    In some instances, this may be true. Unfortunately, unlike our definitions for BP and RP, which are fairly stable, Purple is not.

    However, I use the most used definition from the subreddit r/purplepilldebate, which refers to it as a combination of BP and RP. So someone who is a Purple Piller (like me or my man), can acknowledge the dangers/problems/bullshit inherent in the general system while simultaneously acknowledging that NAWALT and NAMALT. It isn’t about stealing away the intent of RP teachings…it’s just about not agreeing with 100% of the RP yet still being pro-male.

    [SG – I agree that much lies in the definition, but generally speaking better purple than blue]

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I wouldn’t go ahead and call the red pill truth. In doing so, we would be buying into ideology, making us no wiser than oue opponents. What it is is an imperfect worldview that was derived independent of the feminine worldview. It will evolve over time as people observe and lessons are learned. It threatens the feminine imperative because it is not subordinate to it.

    As for the twenty five percent of women on heavy duty antidepressives, doctors have always been soliticious to female patient approaching the proverbial wall. A lot of prescriptions were written for barbituates in the sixties.
    This Rolling Stones song may be an understatement.

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    What occurs to me is that we are all dancing around the topic of how to combat gynocentrism. I bekieve that the best way is to simply starve the beast. Women are more dependent on men than men will ever be on women. This speaks wll for MGTOW as a social tactic but, resitance from women is going to be very harsh.

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  62. Spawny Get says:

    I see purple pill (however that might be defined) as the start of the journey toward the red. It’s perfectly true that many won’t complete the journey, but once you start noticing gynocentrism, the feminist lies and distortions…you’ll notice more and more. Only the biggest mangina pussies can unsee what has been seen. Though most of them are blind in the first place.

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  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic. Something aboutr facebook ignoring female employees from Vox Day.
    http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2016/05/leaning-in-to-facebook.html
    More than a little irony here.

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  64. Spawny Get says:

    “I bekieve that the best way is to simply starve the beast”

    I agree. Attacking wimminz allows them to play the victim card. That’s a trump card with wimminz, women and manginas…and blue-pill suckers

    I’m just fine favouring men in my day-to-day life and treating women as blue pill types treat men. I believe that that is all it will take if many/most men adopt that mentality. If they don’t then I’m happy anyway. You might call this approach ‘indifference to the gyna’, because the opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. I am not indifferent to women that help the male cause.

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  65. Cill says:

    google trends MGTOW

    Doubles approximately every 12 months, has rapidly overtaken both “women’s rights” and “men’s rights”, as well as “radical feminism” in search popularity.

    Click here to see the graph (opens in a new tab)

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    There’s a bit of a row in the manosphere between anti-feminists (Sargon, ShoeOnHead et al) and actual MGTOW (Thinking Ape et al).

    I don’t see the point. Let the lightweights and purple-pill-women stick it to feminists. That’s all they’re any use for anyway. Try criticising women in front of Shoe and see how far you get…nowhere. Sargon married a single mum…nuff said about getting him to criticise women en masse. These people make entertaining material that’s effective in getting men awake to MGTOW and/or TRP. And that’s enough for me to leave ’em to it.

    Once they’re awake some of these people will look to understand more than ‘crazy fembot be crazy’.

    I still usually watch Sargon’s material (not Armoured or Shoe’s) because he can amuse on the light stuff. Hearing him talk about MGTOW is embarrassing, it’s like asking the mong down the pub what he thinks about something he’s not looked into…pointless and face-palmy. I wish he were as smart as he thinks he is. But he has a strong, useful voice for the good (so far).

    They’re the enemy of my enemy, which makes them usually not my enemy, sometimes my friend for the day.

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  67. Spawny Get says:

    “Doubles approximately every 12 months, has rapidly overtaken both “women’s rights” and “men’s rights”, as well as “radical feminism” in search popularity.”

    Rumour is (and I believe it) that this is why AVFM tried to co-opt MGTOW last year. For the money and also for the cool label they wished to be able to bestow on married guys; MGTOW.

    IMGPO fighting for men’s rights is a glorious pursuit, but it’s on a hiding to very little.

    Because? Because it fails to understand the effects of a gynocentric culture where men’s rights are anathema.

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  68. BuenaVista says:

    “In doing so, we would be buying into ideology, making us no wiser than our opponents.”

    Do you know what “ideology” means, FW?

    Because it does not mean a set of explanatory observations that deconstruct feminism’s ideological successes, and female and male responses to those successes.

    For TRP to be an “ideology” it would require an articulated set of abstract principles to be imposed on society, thereby changing it (slouching toward Bethlehem).

    Legal and financial and emotional self-defense, explanatory psychology, and psycho-sexual strategies, are not an “ideology.” A response to feminist ideology is not, de facto, a new ideology. TRP is explicitly anti-ideological.

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  69. BuenaVista says:

    The chart Cill provides suggests a relationship between MGTOW impulses, and available physical space.

    Man, the Germans have their nuts in a vise.

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  70. Spawny Get says:

    “TRP is explicitly anti-ideological”

    ‘seeking to understand reality’?

    I agree with what you say, but if truth seeking becalled an ideology, I could live with that. But, truth be told, and my grandiloquence may stand as evidence…I have been drinking a rather nice wine…so there’s that excuse.

    The next step? on pourrait commencer d’ecriver en francais…you have been warned. Though my grammar does not stand the ethanol test.

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  71. Spawny Get says:

    Just got an alery about an interesting sounding post https://francisdroy.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/womens-fear-we-dont-care-anymore/

    Women’s fear. It’s been overused as a political tool. It is irrational in today’s Western context. The trigger is worn out. We don’t care anymore.

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  72. BuenaVista says:

    “Truth-seeking” is the opposite of ideology. If I want to understand laminar flow aerodynamics, I’m not advancing an ideology, because aerodynamics don’t care shit about what I think about how wings should behave. But FW needs to be patted on the head a few times a day by the girls, and the girls here as elsewhere are not RP.

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  73. horseman says:

    I believe in RP and MGTOW as personal growth and development. Because I have seen society and both (most) females and bp men as amusing but useless creatures sharing the planet. I have no desire to waste time converting or wondering about society’s future.
    In fact from a consumer based economy the female led bp drone is better. But for the individual rp and mgtow are the only logical answers. Instead I devote my time ti helping individuals, male or female who cross my path.

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  74. BuenaVista says:

    Drink the wine and test my schoolboy French.

    ***

    Women are a lot smarter about how they interact with men than we realize, I think. They’re not prepared to be called on their usual plays. At the risk of being labeled “ideological”, and then being confronted with 198 new videos, I note that they have a playbook, and it’s not very deep.

    I had a fight with a close friend three weeks ago, and I’ll just say that it wasn’t I who screwed up. She immediately went to “you’re being hurtful … I’m embarrassed … you’re scaring me … why are you so angry?” IOW, instead of apologizing, she wanted to play abused victim.

    So I said, “And now you’re playing the victim card.” (That is something I’ve never said to a woman in my life.)

    Dead air.

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  75. horseman says:

    Again Messenger has a related video about various mras hijacking mgtow

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  76. BuenaVista says:

    This is ideology:

    “Women make 74% of men.”

    This is observation:

    “Well, actually, you’re full of shit. Men work harder and longer.”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cis7ekpUoAAK-xd.jpg:large

    [SG – I removed the ‘:large’ from a copied link]

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    Since I realise that I already screwed up in French in that comment, I’ll not be testing yours.

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  78. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    It has been a while since I looked at Google trends on that. I think that Sandman noted it in one of his videos a year ago. So, it hasn’t let up. It is good news that people are looking for answers at an increasing rate. I don’t thnk that it will go indefiniely but, it won’t be long before most people are aware.

    To clarify: the Red Pill is not truth. A lot of it is theory and should be tested. Toaccept it as truth would be taking it on faith. Hence, the allusion to ideology. We can’t be like the fembots, taking all their wacky theories on faith.

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  79. BuenaVista says:

    Fuck off, FW. I’m “like a fembot” like you’re Cary Grant. In regard to “testing theories”, I suspect I have a more robust, earned, primary data set addressing female behavior. Of course, I’m just taking you at your word that you can’t get a date.

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  80. Spawny Get says:

    If you’re going to mention Cary, you need to give a trigger warning. Mr Leach was a Bristolian. You know how Tarn gets.

    Oh and trigger warning for Tarn.

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  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Excuse me, but this just got personal. Mat I remind you that we are not in high school anymore?

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  82. BuenaVista says:

    Yeah, it did. Somebody called somebody a fembot. Fuck off and go watch your furry videos and prepare the next whining and remember to tell the girls you’re “scared” and “worried” and butthurt and lonely and all the rest.

    If you’re going to compare a few red pill observations to post-modern feminism, expect to be defenestrated. If you’re going to say I think like a fembot, better bring more than your usual woe-is-me+I’m-a-furry videos.

    You could solve some of your problems if you wanted to, but you don’t want to. Stop dumping them on everybody else. It’s really boring. FFS, go buy a hooker and do her on the hood of your car or something.

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  83. BuenaVista says:

    I’m assuming you drive, and own a car.

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  84. BuenaVista says:

    If I scratch my head, SG was expressing the subjunctive but forgot and used … used … the past imperfect. At least that’s my fuzzy — whoops! — recollection. Change pourrait to pourrais?

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  85. Yoda says:

    Ze have vays of making you talk

    The NYCHRL [New York City Human Rights Law] requires employers[, landlords, and all businesses and professionals] to use an [employee’s, tenant’s, customer’s, or client’s] preferred name, pronoun and title (e.g., Ms./Mrs.) regardless of the individual’s sex assigned at birth, anatomy, gender, medical history, appearance, or the sex indicated on the individual’s identification.

    Most individuals and many transgender people use female or male pronouns and titles. Some transgender and gender non-conforming people prefer to use pronouns other than he/him/his or she/her/hers, such as they/them/theirs or ze/hir. [Footnote: Ze and hir are popular gender-free pronouns preferred by some transgender and/or gender non-conforming individuals.] …

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use/

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  86. Yoda says:

    Hillary’s promise to bring back Bill reminds voters that her career has always been secondary to his. She got her start in public life as a First Lady, initially First Lady of Arkansas, then of the United States. Hillary had no conceivable basis for running for the Senate in New York other than the fact that she was First Lady. She has always ridden Bill’s coattails. Is that the profile we want in a presidential candidate?

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/05/hillary-might-have-just-made-her-worst-mistake-ever.php

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  87. Yoda says:

    Former Governor Ed Rendell made a statement to the Washington Post’s Dave Weigel that he probably wishes he could rephrase or just retract. Speaking of Donald Trump’s appeal in suburban Pennsylvania, Rendell made a rather awkward point about Trump’s lack of appeal to women:

    “Will he have some appeal to working-class Dems in Levittown or Bristol? Sure,” said Ed Rendell, the former Pennsylvania governor and Philadelphia mayor, who won landslides in the suburbs. “For every one he’ll lose 1½ , two Republican women. Trump’s comments like ‘You can’t be a 10 if you’re flat-chested,’ that’ll come back to haunt him. There are probably more ugly women in America than attractive women. People take that stuff personally.”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/18/hillary-surrogate-probably-more-ugly-women-in-america-than-attractive-women/

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  88. Spawny Get says:

    That’s the word that I realised that I’d fucked up. I think I wanted future and conditional? ‘one might begin to write in French’?’

    —-

    Can we not let the animosity get out of hand? I have no interest in a taking sides. I’m currently incapable of finding the words to take that further without making things worse. Something like; You two are not in the same place, you don’t have the same approaches to the issues. If I thought that resolutions to those points were possible, maybe I’d see a point in the debate. I have less anger than one, less pain than the other.

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  89. Spawny Get says:

    Just watching the last few ‘Bones’ episodes because there was a Honey Badgers episode on the recent Meninist (ISYN) storyline. Mehh. But more importantly, when did Ms Deschenel get old? Also, how is this dragging itself into season 11? I think I’m developing an increasingly low boredom threshold.

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  90. Spawny Get says:

    Fined for not using preferred pronouns? Even if I cared, that’s not how my mind works. This could prove expensive. Shirley the point of transitioning is to become the other? If it’s more complicated than that then I have no interest in being pulled into the psychodrama of every person that I bump into on the street…don’t talk to me. I identify as not-giving-a-shit. For friends? We’ll work something out.

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  91. BuenaVista says:

    Absolutely. I promise to ignore the fuzzy creature until the next time he calls me a fembot.

    People who talk shit shouldn’t whine about the response.

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  92. Spawny Get says:

    Ah, my reading comprehension is also compromised, I missed that wrinkle.

    Thanks. Mostly.

    I assure you that I have never caught a whiff of fembot from you.

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  93. thedeti says:

    I found something a while back that I think sets out pretty much what red pill is, and how most people view it. I leave it here for your consideration. I didn’t write it, but someone I respect did.
    ___________________________

    Some guys are naturally good with people, decent looking, social, charismatic, likeable dudes. They have a good mind for social interactions. They get it. Sometimes their relationships go well, sometimes their relationships go badly, but in general, they don’t have a huge problem meeting girls, having sex, finding relationships, just as an extension of who they are and what they’re like.

    Guys like this think the Red Pill is just plain stupid. Even forgetting all the woman-hating, they think it’s asinine that people actually need to discuss this shit and theorize about it and try to figure it out. You just go talk to girls like they’re people and sometimes you get laid. What?

    Those guys are the “blue pill” guys you find around Reddit. There’s no theory or way of life here. You just live your life and as an extension of that life, sometimes you meet girls. Only losers obsess about girls and sex and make some big-ass internet forum to talk about it.

    Some guys, however, are not naturally good with people. Maybe they’re ugly. Maybe they’re somewhere on the autism spectrum. Maybe they had a bad childhood that socially stunted them. For whatever reason, these guys are not charismatic or socially apt. They don’t just suck with women; they suck at making friends in general. They often suffer not just at getting laid, but socially and professionally as a whole, due to an inability to make friends easily or network professionally. When these guys tried their luck with women in the past, they were awkward, creepy, and undateable. Their failure to obtain experience with women downward spiraled as they got older, and they went from clueless teenagers (where it’s okay not to get it sometimes) to grown-ass men who are expected to get it.

    These guys don’t get it. These guys need shit explained to them, even though it seems stupid and obvious to a “normal” guy. Even though this is the kind of shit nobody ever explains or talks about. And because nobody ever explains or talks about it, the guys explaining this shit to them are other guys just like them, who’ve figured this out through trial and error, and probably only have things maybe 80% right.

    The whole PUA movement that started a lot of this was really just loser guys mimicking what they saw winner guys doing. Practicing the motions, preparing things to say, having gimmicks and techniques. Essentially, emulating just enough winner-behavior to hide the fact that they’re one of the undateable losers who doesn’t get it. Tricking girls into sex.

    The more general masculinity/TRP/manosphere movement exploded from that. A collection of socially stunted guys raging against a world that rewards looks and social aptitude while ignoring pretty much any other virtue. TRP figured out how the sex/relationship system works and how to game that system.

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  94. SFC Ton says:

    purple pill is more dangerous then blue pill; lies are always more dangerous the closer they are to being true

    The way I reckon things it is impossible to be both red pill and egalitarian. the notion all people are equal and of equal worth is a lie in and of itself. Everything flowing from that position will be inherently untrue at a fundamental level

    nothing about transgender is popular or common place so that statement about the terms Ze and hir being popular is a lie

    Why are PUAs are overgrown juvenille arseholes?

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  95. thedeti says:

    Red pill isn’t an ideology or worldview. To me it’s just a set of observable facts about how people behave and what they believe. It is male nature and female nature. It is natural law, if you will. It cannot be changed, though feminists (who are the true ideologues) and politicians (who are ideologues and demagogues by definition) tried mightily to change it through pressure, culture and legislation.

    Despite all of law, culture and politics’ best efforts, a lawyercunt in 2016 will still fuck Harley McBadboy in her apartment after a night of drinking, and Louie Lawyer will still go home and whack off to YouPorn. It has always been thus, and shall always be thus.

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  96. Yoda says:

    Deti’s associate looked at the situation in a deep manner not

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  97. horseman says:

    Agree with Ton. You were given certain attributes at birth. Maybe looks, smarts, strength, status. What you do with it after that is up to you.

    No man is greater than all men at all things. Each man is greater than all men at one thing. Find your thing and do it.

    PUAs who just use females as notches or payback is as bad as any feminist using men. Don’t use people. Laugh at them, sure but not just blatantly use.
    Even Roosh is now saying what else is there?

    A guy who is good with girls, takes no shit, really likes sex is not my target. That is a real unplugged guy.
    My target is the hateful guy who learns rote game and has lots of hate sex to get even on the gender that hurt him. Its butthurt write large with a trail of unnecessary damage.

    Frankly once you truly unplug and see women as they are it is almost too easy. I prefer the guy who treats women as fine wine. sampled, savored, and then remembered as an enjoyable companioin to the real meal the steak (which is an independent life)

    As a libertarian, do what you want but do not harm others. PUAs of the bad kind intentionally harm others. An alpha widow should long for the rest of her days not weep unendingly.

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  98. thedeti says:

    Dear Fuzzie:

    Time for a bit of tough love.

    Turn off your computer and go do something else. Go lift some weights, go run or walk a mile, go join a group, go meet some women. Go talk to some people in the group you join and interact with people who aren’t into all this pill business. You will find out that the info you’ve found in The Red Pill is surprisingly predictive. You will find out that women are absolutely chomping at the bit for attractive, masculine men who aren’t afraid to be masculine and aren’t afraid to assert themselves. You will find out that women in their 30s to their 50s still want to fuck.

    Your average 40 something woman who still looks pretty decent and who is interested sexually will giggle like a damn coed if you do it right.

    Here’s what I’m going to suggest that you do.

    Join a group. Get to know the women in that group, the marrieds and the singles. Flirt judiciously with the marrieds away from their husbands. Don’t get all overtly sexual. Talk to them. Talk about things. Do the “side hug” thing. You’re talking to them and approaching them as women. You’re a man, recognizing their femininity. Women absolutely LOVE it when a man, any man, recognizes and acknowledges a woman AS A WOMAN. Especially 40 something with their cellulite, their sagging everything, their femstaches, their whatever. They love it when some guy looks at them and sees…. girls. They’re just GIRLS.

    FInd out who the singles are in your group of choice. Start talking to them and getting to know them. Be overtly masculine. Be a MAN talking to WOMEN, not a human talking to other humans. For god’s sake, don’t be a man acting like a woman talking to women. Find a few of the singles you like and who are giving you indicators of interest. (Yes, 40 somethings still throw out IOIs. I have yet to see a woman who’s still got something going on who can’t do this or doesn’t do it.) And ask one of them to get drinks sometime. Tip:: you have to do this with women who are clearly, unmistakably showing you interest. If a woman is not showing clear interest, don’t even waste time. Move on immediately.

    So, go to the bar with her or meet her there. Now you have her alone away from the group you were in. Talk, flirt. Talk shit. Just talk to her and with her. Connect with her. Talk about her favorite subject — her. Let her talk. Every so often, throw in some sexual double entendre, smirk at her, and laugh. Don’t get serious about things. Don’t get drunk. IMpose on yourself a 2 or 3 drink limit. If she starts talking about sex, past sex partners, past relationships, just let her talk and ask her things every so often to draw her out. This is a sign that she’s thinking about sex with you. (I’ve found this to be the case – these women just start talking about their past relationships and asking the man about his and on and on.)

    At the end of the date, go in for a kiss. If she kisses you back, then you’re in like Flynn. If she offers the cheek or says no or otherwise isn’t receptive, then skip it, you’re done.

    Fuzzie, the US is absolutely FULL of 30 to 50-something divorced women who are starving for male attention and affection. Yes, they have some baggage. So what? So do you. You’re looking here for a quick connection and possibly sex. You need to be on the lookout for crazy, and mental cases, and so on and on, and there are some of those, but they’re not all hot messes. You just have to be judicious and not latch onto a borderline. A lot of these women will do just fine for dating and sex.

    Fucking go out there and bust a move. Make something happen. I just choreographed it for you.

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  99. Spawny Get says:

    “Why are PUAs are overgrown juvenille arseholes?”

    I think that there are men that shag women because they can, they enjoy it, it’s no biggy

    There are nerds fascinated in working out the rules of the game because it’s a thing they want to master.

    There are guys who get their validation from the number of women that they shag.

    PUA is a term that some might call all of these things, but I think that there a different flavours, some more juvenile than others. And hey, if you’re juvenile, there’s no great shame in being a juvenile arsehole. But even Roosh has decided that there needs to be more to life than pussy chasing by the time you hit your mid thirties.

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  100. horseman says:

    and with the wine analogy, many are spit out after just one taste!

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  101. Yoda says:

    Sounds similar to this it does

    “I think women lie to men about what really turns women on, perhaps because they are doing what Steve Moxon has written about. They are “policing the hierarchy”. They don’t want ordinary men to know, because knowledge is power. They would prefer that only elite men know these things and preferably that they know them intuitively. If every clueless guy is told the truth, it means that a man has been helped, who in the eyes of many women does not deserve to know. Women just expect men to know without being told.”

    https://davidcollard.wordpress.com/2010/11/15/women-policing-the-hierarchy/

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  102. Spawny Get says:

    If it hurts to be alone, I think that Deti just made a suggestion that you should seriously consider.

    We’re all in different boats, I don’t blame a man for deciding to do something different to me.

    And good night.

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  103. Spawny Get says:

    I remember that post, Yoda. A goody.

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  104. thedeti says:

    Many PUAs fall into the trap of having pickup become their entire lives. The entirety of their lives centers around getting women to sleep with them. That leads to their perseverating on others’ opinions of them, particularly women. They are obsessed with others’ evaluations of them, they can’t stop thinking and overevaluating what other people think about them. They thus derive all their self worth and their identities from their ability to get as many women as possible to fuck them. Everything they do is specifically geared to a woman or women, and whether women or a particular woman will fuck them, either at that point or in the future.

    It’s quite feminine, really.

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  105. horseman says:

    Bear, the deti is right.
    All this is navel gazing unless its practiced.
    This aint law you can learn in a book.
    Its carpentry, learn a few techniques get a few plans but you get good by apprenticing, by doing.

    True red pill is a get out of jail free card. I do shit I want, truly want, because I want to.
    Who is stopping me? Mr. buttondown too scared to make a sdcene? Mr. tough guy who once he sees I have sdome chops may not like me but respects me.? Ms. feminist mcbitchfasce? She might call me asshole but its really so I will notice her and save her from herself.

    Hell even my bitch boss who sees me as a threat cant figure out why every time she comes to give me shit, she leaves thinking im indespensible.

    Society desperately wants men. Just go and be one.
    or be happyin MGTOW

    but be happy in what you chose. you deserve to be happy.

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  106. Yoda says:

    They are obsessed with others’ evaluations of them, they can’t stop thinking and overevaluating what other people think about them. They thus derive all their self worth and their identities from their ability to get as many women as possible to fuck them. Everything they do is specifically geared to a woman or women, and whether women or a particular woman will fuck them, either at that point or in the future.

    Quite feminine indeed.
    But a poor strategy it would be,
    for “latching onto resources” not the correct game for them to play it would be

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  107. horseman says:

    if you can, seriously, take some riding lessons.
    If you can face your fear (and everone fears a large animal first day) to where you can get 1500lbs to move with a touch, girls aint gonna scare you.
    and wanna know a secret?
    red pill concepts are 99% natural horsemanship (horse whispering)
    Seriously. and most barns are 90% female (who have money)

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  108. thedeti says:

    I very much like the cut of your jib, horseman.

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  109. SFC Ton says:

    love the women are pua’s victims/ white knighting
    women are will participants. full stop

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  110. SFC Ton says:

    Roosh is a jumped up beta and I wouldn’t put much stock in anything he says about the topic

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  111. Yoda says:

    Ton naive he is.
    Women always victims they are.
    Even when empowered to make their own choices, victims they are.
    Even when empowered choices stupid, victims they are.
    Even Hillary a victim she is

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  112. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    Thanks but, I have tried that. It didn’t work.

    Horseman,
    I threw hay at two sweet Arab mares for years, getting along with them fine. While I was offered a chance to go out riding, I didm’t want to complicate the relationship or,worse, owe favors to their female owner.

    The lesson for me today is to avoid alphas. They lean toward narcissim and it is not good to get on their wrong side.

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  113. Yoda says:

    Sen. Barbara Boxer (D., Calif.), a Hillary Clinton supporter, described Wednesday how she was genuinely frightened for her safety while being booed by supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) during the Nevada Democratic state convention on Saturday.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/sen-boxer-felt-frightened-threatened-sanders-supporters-booed/

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  114. thedeti says:

    Farm Boy’s questions.

    “how to feed the red-pill to men?”

    I don’t think you can. Each individual man has to decide whether to ingest the red pill for himself. But, he must first find the red pill. Most men don’t even know there is such a thing.

    And finding the red pill is the big issue, I think.

    Everyone knows my story. I found myself at 42 with a job I hated, a wife who seethed with contempt for me, and foundering pretty much everywhere. I had given up so much of myself I didn’t even know who I was.

    At that point, the red pill was about the only thing that made sense. I had no choice but to look at what I was being shown. I had no choice but to accept that how I had been doing it wasn’t working, and it was time to look at something else. It was time to consider the possibility that maybe there was something I had missed. I was about to lose my marriage and didn’t care about my career. In the course of less than two months I had been put in a position of having almost nothing to lose. So I swallowed a red pill.

    “A common problem is that of sunk costs. Men have much time and resources invested in the blue pill, and it is so very difficult to walk away from it.”

    Yes, this is very hard. I was just today, again, swatting down an old blue pill habit of always looking out for others comfort, always being willing to benefit others to my detriment, always being willing to set myself on fire to warm others.

    But as long as a man is breathing, he can change.

    “Another issue is that by going red-pill, one effectively is going against society”

    One could argue that there’s no other way to truly live, for a man. You have to buck the trends sometime, you have to sometimes say “I’ll do what I want, and I don’t care what anyone else thinks”. A man must blaze his own trail, forge his own path, make his own way.

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  115. SFC Ton says:

    No Fuzzie the lesson should be to elevate yourself instead of wallaer in self misery
    That might play well with women and earn you some limited sympathy but it gets old quick among men

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  116. thedeti says:

    Fuzzie:

    If the only woman who responds at all to you is your mom, you’re doing something wrong. If your attempts to get lonely carousel refugees and divorced 40 something moms aren’t working, then you need to work more on you. Something’s wrong with your physical appearance or your personality. You either don’t look right, act right or talk right. There’s something about you that’s putting women off, and it can probably be fixed.

    Spawny, send Fuzzie my email. Fuzzie, contact me privately by email if you want to have some backchannel discussions about this.

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  117. Yoda says:

    Joan of Arc supposed to be a virgin she was?

    Dunham revealed on Monday that she was cast to play Joan of Arc in the comedy sequel, but her scene was left on the cutting room floor. “It was all worth it for these blade hands and the chance to rewrite history as a Joan who jumps off the flaming pyre and guts a lot of men. I can’t wait for this movie,” she wrote on Instagram

    http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/07/lena-dunham-joan-arc-part-cut-neighbors-2

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  118. Yoda says:

    Joan who jumps off the flaming pyre and guts a lot of men.

    Perhaps “lands” on them from up high she does.
    Take out many men this would

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  119. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    I just checked mty email, nothing there. Spawny is in the UK and likely sleeping. Maybe tomorrow.
    With all the time spwnt on these threads, I don’t know why I wasn’t more fortunate in the past. Maybe there is a bell curve that applies. I have spent a lot of time examining the past.

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  120. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Lena Dunham in a comedy playing Joan of Arc? No respect!
    Laura Wood of The Thinking Housewife did notice that feminists don’t like Joan. Could it be her faith?:

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  121. horseman says:

    Fuzz
    Part of that is the problem. Navel gazing, examining, thinking.

    God! Bear! Get Out of Your Head!!

    Dont think! Do! Be!
    Fake it til ya make it if you have to.
    You dont advance by planning, advance by working the plan!

    ok. Prime example. Micheal Shanks aka Daneil Jackson
    First episode…thin…nerdy…bad talker… cross eyed.
    Final season…buff, confident, talks easy.
    (yes its acting but the actor acted that way for a reason)
    Combat, stressful situations overcome, Victory!!!

    Confidence and self assured comes ONLY from battlescars
    We alphas are that way not from narcissism but because we HAVE survived.
    You dont have to have gone to Yugo or Kandahar or Baghdad like some of us.
    You just had to do something that you KNEW was gonna hurt,do it, and survive.
    Dont feed the horse and be its buddy….get on, make him do that full canter, and show him your not a buddy your the boss.
    Its knowing a paper cut dont hurt like a suckerpunch from a biker does that makes stuff easy.

    The best retort “Been called worse by meaner”. When its true it makes it so much easier.

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  122. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    All my life, I have heard ” You have to do this.You have to do that.” I have done most of theose things and, having accomplished them, there is either another hoop to jump through or, the direct opposite is advised.

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  123. Farm Boy says:

    Well Fuzzie, you were sold a bill of goods just like lots of other fellas.

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  124. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    FArm Boy,
    At this stage, I have to question if I am being sold another. In the meanwhile, it’s like high school all over again with the “popular” guys lording it over those who are honest or less fortunate.
    With the red pill, all is brought into question.I guess betas expect too much out of life.

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  125. Cill says:

    This is good. I’m washed and relaxing with a bottle of fine Scotch at the end of a full day. It’s only 3:00 pm but I started in the wee hours of the morning. This is the first chance I’ve had to sit down all day, which makes “washed and relaxing” even better right now.

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  126. Cill says:

    A certain charming old villain tells me he has the usual rare Scotch or Michters Sour Mash Whiskey for my next meeting with him. Neither of us has tried the Michters before. We’ll meet up, do the usual exchange of gifts (priceless catch from me, pricey spirits from him) and give the rye a try.

    Anyone tried Michter? If it’s not worth the exchange, I’ll take the usual Scotch.

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  127. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    It is the first that I have heard of that. If the source is who you have mentioned before, it must have an excellent reputation. Why not accept it and experience something new?

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  128. Ame says:

    thedeti –
    “At that point, the red pill was about the only thing that made sense. I had no choice but to look at what I was being shown. I had no choice but to accept that how I had been doing it wasn’t working, and it was time to look at something else. It was time to consider the possibility that maybe there was something I had missed. I was about to lose my marriage and didn’t care about my career. In the course of less than two months I had been put in a position of having almost nothing to lose. So I swallowed a red pill.”

    few people make significant changes until the pain to live as-is becomes greater than the cost to change.

    as a mom i’m always searching for ways to teach concepts and principles to my kids and others who cross my path in ways that, unless necessary to be blatant, subtly plant seeds that are watered by experiences and then made clear.

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  129. Yoda says:

    A certain charming old villain tells me he has the usual rare Scotch or Michters Sour Mash Whiskey for my next meeting with him.

    Moe it would be?

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  130. Yoda says:

    Interesting info here there is.

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  131. Cill says:

    Yes I’ll definitely try it. I was wondering if anyone here knows of it, is all.

    Too bloody right, I’ll give anything new a go… within reason, of course.

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  132. Cill says:

    Yoda that Aussie bird manages to be bloody funny. Her reaction to Triggly’s “If I were an animal, I’d be a manatee” is almost too much. It’s as if Triggly is trying hard to ridicule feminism by posing as a stereotypical fembot joke, but sadly, the poor fat fool is serious.

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  133. Yoda says:

    But TrigglyPuff already an animal she is?

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  134. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    That video review of Trigglypuff’s OkCupid profile was something else. From the tone of it., it is working for her. Good grief!

    Cill,
    I did take a glance at a review. Technically, it isnot a bourbon but, it shoulod drink like one. So you know, rye is hard to market in the US because Canadian tourists keep ordering rye when they want Canadian whiskey. Two vet different tastes and they are not happy with Old Overholt.

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  135. Moehau Man says:

    To whom it may concern,

    There’s an opening for a female vocalist in my rock band the Banging Boners. The successful applicant will be able to hit high loud notes like that Triggly Puff sheila can hit. All sheilas great and small can audition for my rock band as long as they don’t put up a fuss when we drag them off by the hair. Come to think of it, Triggly Puff could audition for chairleader of the Moehau Head Smashers rugby team as well.

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  136. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, now that I’ve seen Triggly Puff’s flesh in that video, I withdraw my offer of an audition. The only redeeming feature of over-weight sheilas is, you can get a fat-rhythm going with them. I doubt you could do that with Triggly Puff. As soon as you start one fat-wave, a counter wave would come in over the top of it and put a man off his stride. It would leave a bloke floundering like a boat on the waves where the Pacific meets the Tasman off North Cape. Sailors call it slop.

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  137. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Moehau Man,
    I think it would be best to draw your female singer from the Moehau Man sheilas. At the very least, there will be a minimum of cultural confusion.

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  138. Spawny Get says:

    A report from Britain’s Higher Education Policy Institute (HEPI) indicates that the decline in the number of boys going to university is a result of the increase in female teachers in Britain’s schools.
    UCAS (Undergraduate Courses at University and College) Chief Mary Curnock Cook said that the “dominance” of women in the teaching profession was a key factor in men choosing not to go to university.

    Writing in the report, Cook said that “many commentators, including me, have suggested that the dominance of women in the school workforce may play a role in boys’ under performance relative to girls.”

    “Just as the performance of boys at GCSE has declined relative to girls, so the proportion of female teachers has increased,” she added. Currently out of the 445,000 teachers in British state education, 74% of them are women.

    The report also found that at around 5/6th of British universities, there are more female than male students, and only two institutions plan to tackle this gender imbalance. It also found that “poor white men have the worst record of all” in obtaining higher education.

    However, the report said a possible reason for the findings could be that typically female-friendly subjects such as nursing and teaching did not previously require undertaking a full degree programme.

    The findings will come as a shock to feminist academics who have long argued that women are inherently disadvantaged by the education system, as the study calls for more institutions to set targets to improve male recruitment.

    HEPI director and the co-author of the report Nick Hillman concluded, “Nearly everyone seems to have a vague sense that our education system is letting young men down, but there are few detailed studies of the problem and almost no clear policy recommendations on what to do about it.”

    “Young men are much less likely to enter higher education, are more likely to drop out and are less likely to secure a top degree than women,” he argued. “That is a serious problem we need to tackle.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/education/2016/05/18/girl-born-britain-75-likely-go-university-boy/

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  139. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,
    What do you do when not at work? Do you still have hobbies you enjoy, or groups you share interests with and meet up with every week? You should live for you, not for anyone else, and part of that is actually getting out there to interact with others who add positivity to your life.

    While I do not think RP is an ideology like Feminism, I do think it is a situational truth. The amount of RP needed per opposite sex relationships, friendships, or interactions with coworkers varies. The percentage of RP that works for Ton is slightly different than what works for Deti, but quite different than what would work with Fuzzie, and very different than what works in mine. This is no “fault” of RP, but rather indicative of separate lifestyles and personality types, of both ourselves and our SOs.

    “Why are PUAs are overgrown juvenille arseholes?”

    Some are, some are not.
    Depends on the man.
    Being a PUA doesn’t make one a asshole.
    Being an asshole makes one an asshole.

    The way I reckon things it is impossible to be both red pill and egalitarian.

    I agree wholeheartedly.

    Re: BV’s May 18 4:55 comment:
    That sounds more like an incredibly dishonest, potentially backstabbing BP woman than a Purple one.

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  140. Tarnished says:

    Spawny,
    Yes. Better Purple and Red than Blue, any day of the week.

    Re: new trans pronouns

    Ugh. FFS, the English language already has a way to refer to someone with a undisclosed gender. It’s called using they/them.

    As in;
    He went to the store.
    She went to the store.
    They went to the store.

    That’s his dog.
    That’s her dog.
    That’s their dog.

    We don’t need new terms!

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  141. SFC Ton says:

    sooooo now popularity equals dishonesty?

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  142. SFC Ton says:

    incredibly dishonest, potentially backstabbing BP woman than a Purple one.
    ————-
    ie sounds like every woman ever born

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  143. SFC Ton says:

    anyone surprised Trigglypuff is a jew and queer?

    also I feel bad for manatee’s.

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  144. Spawny Get says:

    Trigglypuff is only 22…wtf?

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  145. SFC Ton says:

    regarding Spwany’s post about boys and shcooling…

    Women will not change anything to better the condition of men or children voluntarily

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  146. Tarnished says:

    sooooo now popularity equals dishonesty?

    Nah. But I do think dishonesty is a popular/typical trait to have right now…though not only by Popular people. Many Normals and Misfits seem to act thusly, as well.

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  147. SFC Ton says:

    for my money dishonesty is part of the human condition with there being no more or no less dishonesty now then at any other point in time

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  148. Liz says:

    Disclaimer, I haven’t read any posts above yet.
    Liz casa has been hopping and I haven’t had much time. Just wanted to drop by and say hi all.
    🙂

    My thoughts this morning on the topic question:
    Men are “doers”. Think I’ve mentioned before that most men I know in real life don’t talk much about their relationship problems until it’s something truly significant. Whereas women like to talk about minutia (what did it mean when he left a sock on the floor? Didn’t cap the toothpaste? Discuss, discuss, discuss…culminating in “that evil bastard!”)

    So typically by the time they come to TRP and sphere they’ve been through a lot. Usually hearing the background of a typical spherian is pretty shocking. It’s not something Bliss Ninny (most women have at least a modicum bliss ninny in them, I have a great deal of bliss ninny in me) can really understand. I’ve never had any real problems (knock on wood). But I’ve learned a great deal interacting in the sphere.

    OT Bliss Ninny question:
    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    Yoda version: “To get to the other side, it did want”
    Swithy: “Have you seen my spectacular cock?”
    Tarn: “I will keep him and name him Pfdor!”
    Fuzzy: “Mmm…chicken burritos.”
    BV: (some eloquent anecdote about escaping the clutches of a poultry heiress by jumping on a Eurocopter AS565 Panther piloted by a Ukrainian supermodel/CIA operative)
    Okay, that’s enough…well, just one more…..

    Ton: (aims gun and fires at chicken and it goes down)
    Bloom shouts, “It’s almost as big as Thanksgiving! This one won’t get away”
    and runs toward it just as Molly jumps on her motorcycle (wielding ice cream sidearm) shouting, “burritos for Fuzzie!”
    and Cill runs behind at lightning speed, “Molly, slow down! You’re going 120!”
    Farm boy observes the scene and furiously writes out new topic for the day.

    😀

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  149. Liz says:

    Eek….I’ve read through about 2/3 of the posts now.
    Note to self, always read through a thread before posting.

    My “why did the chicken cross the road” question comes across, in this context, about like a drunk crashing an existentialist philosophy meeting.
    Oy vey. 😦

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  150. Liz says:

    “how to feed the red-pill to men?”

    Well, I think it was discussed on Cill’s thread the best way to do that is via example (I hope that lad is doing better now, Cill).
    Being a woman, as noted, I’m pretty much a bliss ninny on the subject so…what do I know? My philosophy on life is kind of Randian (but not entirely). I think TRP is Randian as well. In the end, “truth” is, we’re all dead. And we’re all chemicals. Secret is to forget this and enjoy life for a little while.

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  151. Liz says:

    Anyone else find this sign to be as funny as I do?
    I’m not going to explain why, but…

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  152. Liz says:

    That video was awesome, Swithy! 😀

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  153. Liz says:

    “Trigglypuff is only 22…wtf?”

    22 stone, Swithy? I buy that.

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  154. Liz says:

    The camera adds a few pounds. We don’t need to be too precise.

    Just to add: Mike is TDY and he sent me a photo of that sign above, and it made me laugh out loud. Okay, we’re bad people. Very bad.

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  155. Spawny Get says:

    For the Imperially challenged, 22 stones = 22 x 14 lbs = 308lbs

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  156. Whoever designed that logo…. Yikes! I could say something about Arabs and swimming pools and how they might get the wrong idea, but I won’t…..

    The chicken thing was great! 😀

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  157. Liz says:

    “The chicken thing was great”
    Oh squee! Glad you liked it. 🙂

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  158. Yoda says:

    How Moe viewed the chicken I do wonder

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  159. BuenaVista says:

    Ooops. It just happened. Woman wonders what to tell her husband, and columnist suggests she was raped or something.

    This is mainstream behavior reported in the Washington Post.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/ask-amy-woman-returns-from-vacation-pregnant-by-masseur/2016/05/05/210f62e0-0e5a-11e6-bfa1-4efa856caf2a_story.html?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na

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  160. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Trigglypuff is only 22. Her OkCupid profile is in this video that Yoda linked upthread. Seeing it was a revelation. OkCupid has changed their format, so I didn’t recognize it a first. At a guess, going by the tone of her profile, she is having success with online dating.
    What a worls.

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  161. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Thank you for the kind words.

    Deti,
    I never did get an email. That’s all right.

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  162. SFC Ton says:

    yea Fuzzie maybe she is a big hit with other 300 pound lesbians. Who gives a fuck? Upside is her genetic linage won’t be passed on

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  163. Liz says:

    Why did the chicken cross the road?
    (answer from the many faces of Liz)

    Nice Liz: “That’s a cute story! Did I ever mention Mike is GREAT?!”

    Evil Liz: (some semi-amusing double entendre using the word chicken)

    Liz in a somber mood (standing on soapbox):
    “The chicken crossed the road because the government has destroyed free enterprise as self-serving politicians chase short-term gains via anti-freedom objectives while their supporting acolytes seek entitlements and the public at large is blinded via cheap entertainment and emotional fixes instead of paying attention to issues which truly affect them such as illegal aliens swarming across the border and trying to push their failed cultures while those who support them counter every valid concern with false cries of racism and the government tries to scam more taxes and regulations on the population through fictions while committing anti-Constitutional acts such as monitoring and controlling the population through fictions so gun control can be pushed upon everyone…”

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  164. Liz says:

    I don’t always roast myself, but when I do I make sure to do it at Swithy’s. 🙂
    Short, self-imposed mandatory because I need to do things internet break starting…one, two, three, now!
    Have a great weekend all!

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  165. Yoda says:

    Moe show the chicken who is boss with his kauri club he would

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  166. Yoda says:

    Sumo cook the chicken into fine meal he would

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  167. Yoda says:

    Darth Maul chop off its head and watch it run across the road he would

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  168. Yoda says:


    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday criticized the Obama administration’s new directive on bathrooms for transgender public school students by saying: “JFK wanted to send a man to the moon. Obama wants to send a man to the women’s restroom.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/17/texas-governor-jfk-sent-man-to-moon-obama-wants-to-send-man-to-ladies-room

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  169. Yoda says:

    Dragonfly run away she would,
    For chickens eat bugs they do

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  170. Yoda says:

    The drums had been beating for weeks about a major New York Times expose in the works that would demolish Trump once and for all by revealing his sordid lifetime of misogyny. When it finally appeared as a splashy front-page story this past Sunday (originally titled “Crossing the Line: Trump’s Private Conduct with Women”), I was off in the woods pursuing my Native American research. On Monday, after seeing countless exultant references to this virtuoso takedown, I finally read the article—and laughed out loud throughout. Can there be any finer demonstration of the insularity and mediocrity of today’s Manhattan prestige media? Wow, millionaire workaholic Donald Trump chased young, beautiful, willing women and liked to boast about it. Jail him now! Meanwhile, the New York Times remains mute about Bill Clinton’s long record of crude groping and grosser assaults—not one example of which could be found to taint Trump

    http://www.salon.com/2016/05/19/camille_paglia_pc_feminists_misfire_again_as_fossilized_fearful_media_cant_touch_donald_trump/

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  171. Yoda says:

    The American public was spared — for now — the possibility of being labeled rapists overnight thanks to a new definition of what is and isn’t consent.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a-mess-law-group-rejects-affirmative-consent/article/2591692

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  172. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Eating bugs is a good thing. Otherwise, wherever there are large animals, there would be a lot of flies.

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  173. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    It is interesting that the American Law Institute couldn’t pass affirmative consent. Maybe it’s because they don’t have to worry about feminist voters, as four state legislatures have?

    I am surprised that Salon would publish something defensive of Trump.

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  174. Tarnished says:

    Obama wants to send a man to the women’s restroom.

    I find it both weird and misandric that every single time the topic of gender-neutral bathrooms or trans-acceptable bathrooms comes up, it’s *always* about how “the ebul menz and boyz want to use the woman’s room!”

    Never once have I read or heard anyone complain about the opposite situation.

    So…it’s horrible for penis-wielders who look like women to be in bathrooms with women, but it’s perfectly fine for the vaginally-gifted to go in men’s bathrooms?
    Whatever…

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  175. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    About affirmative consent, one California legislator coundn’t answer what would be acceptable and they passed it anyway. Then the govenor signed it. How will this pass judicial review? It’s unworkable.

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  176. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Look at it as another indication of how deep the misandry runs in our culture.

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  177. Tarnished says:

    I do, Fuzzie.

    Don’t get me wrong…I’m in favor of having gender-neutral restroom options, but they should be offered alongside regular ones. I accept that a lot of other people wouldn’t be comfortable with co-ed type bathrooms. They shouldn’t be made uncomfortable just to make a minority feel better about being ultra-PC.

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  178. Yoda says:

    They shouldn’t be made uncomfortable just to make a minority feel better about being ultra-PC.

    Perhaps the point this is

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  179. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I am not sure about any of this. A year ago, if this were predicted, anyone would say that it is nucking futz. It’s be shoved down everyone’s throat. What I think will be the biggest impact hasn’t been mentioned yet. Women are going to take over the men’s room. It;’s the last male ony space.

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  180. thedeti says:

    BV:

    Here’s the same article but not behind a subscribe wall.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/askamy/ct-ask-amy-ae-0514-20160514-column.html

    The writer admits the masseur seduced her. She had sex with the man willingly. She does not claim to have been forced or coerced into sex. She doesn’t claim to have been raped.

    Amy puts the blame on the masseur, asking the woman whether she’s sure she wasn’t raped. The masseur “shouldn’t be seducing, forcing or coercing” women into sex on hotel premises. (But gives lip service to the fact that if she hooked up with him off site after hours, well, that’s DIFFERENT.)

    Women are never responsible any more for anything they do. Women are never responsible for having sex outside marriage.

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  181. thedeti says:

    Bear:

    WADR, your time would be better spent offline, either working on your own self improvement so you can get dates, or out there talking to real flesh and blood women in real life.

    I suggest you do what I told you yesterday. And I hope Spawny wakes up so he can give you my email address. I want to talk to you offline.

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  182. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Canadian politics from Judgybitch. From what I could see a female MP came in contact with the Prime Minister, a feminist.

    http://judgybitch.com/2016/05/19/goddamn-you-feminists-now-i-have-to-defend-that-faggot-justintrudeau-for-elbowgate/

    It will be interesting twatch this develop. Had they been of the same party, it would amount to nothing.

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  183. SFC Ton says:

    As a bar owner I promise you more women are interested in using the men’s room then the other way round. #1 there is always a shorter line. #2 women are dirty creatures and the ladies room is always a pigsty

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  184. thedeti says:

    Off topic.

    Trump will be the GOP nominee. Hills will get the dem nod. Hillary will win in a narrow popular vote victory and Electoral College victory.

    Look at the 2012 EC map. Hills will keep New England and California, as well as the upper Midwest. But Indiana and NC will go solid red, not blue like they did last time. Trump might turn New Mexico red, but that’s of little consequence. Ohio and PA will be battleground states. Florida might be. Trump needs to pick up two of those last three states; OH, PA and FL; if he doesn’t, it’s over and Hills takes it in an EC decisive victory.

    Trump will never pick up NY, CA or IL. Not going to happen. He might turn IA, maybe MI, except if I remember right, MI went to Sanders.

    Plus, Hills will have most of the Dem machine behind her, and there will be hijinks, shenanigans and theft. Trump will have lots of pouting GOPers, determined to put yet another bullet in their feet.

    TLDR: Hillary will squeak it out.

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  185. SFC Ton says:

    NC is mostly’ negros and yankees these days. Wouldn’t call it for trump myself though trump will get out the White vote in ways the lat gop dudes couldn’t/ didn’t want too

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  186. SFC Ton says:

    If trump wins the usa has maybe another 12 years
    if hillary wins White folks in the usa better gun up because she will set out to make us a very small percentage of the population

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  187. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    Still no email. I just checked. I can only presume that our conversation should be off the record or we could have it here. After yesterday, I am womdering at the wisdom of being on the threads.

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  188. Ame says:

    Fuzzie and thedeti –

    i’d bet he hasn’t seen your requests … i’ve just emailed him with a copy of the first request from thedeti. give him some time. he usually sees emails within 24 hours of when sent.

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  189. thedeti says:

    Bear: Nope. Not going to have a private conversation on this subject on a public thread.

    Maybe FarmBoy will see it and get my email to you, or yours to me.

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  190. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    As much flak as I get, it would be better to be private. Thank you.

    Liked by 1 person

  191. Yoda says:

    Through my Jedi powers, connected the Bear and Deti I have

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  192. Spawny Get says:

    Hi Deti and Fuzzie
    if either of you are happy for me to send their email to the other, let me know. Obviously I’m not going to send an email address without explicit consent

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  193. Spawny Get says:

    “So…it’s horrible for penis-wielders who look like women to be in bathrooms with women, but it’s perfectly fine for the vaginally-gifted to go in men’s bathrooms?”

    Yeah, I noticed the same thing. It never seems to occur to the general public that men might not appreciate slags using their toilet.

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  194. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    In my youth, one of my duties was to clean reastrooms. It was amazing how quickly the ladies romm would get trashed. It is telling. I think that men are more respectful of maintaining order, even when no one is looking.

    Thans for the email.

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  195. thedeti says:

    Spawny:

    Please send fuzzie my email and he can contact me if he wishes.

    thedeti

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  196. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve just borked it and sent Fuzzie’s (SS) address to Deti

    I need to lie down, it’s been a long few days

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  197. Cill says:

    Republicans who oppose Trump have repeatedly cited Clinton’s polling lead as evidence Trump is headed to a disastrous loss in November. In a Fox poll from March, Crooked Hillary led Trump 49-38. In the Fox poll from April, Clinton led Trump 48-41.

    BUT… Trump now leads Crooked Hillary 45 percent to 42 percent, in a new Fox News national poll.

    41 percent of those surveyed have a favorable opinion of Trump, versus 56 percent who have an unfavorable opinion. In the March Fox poll Trump had a 31-65 favorable-unfavorable number.

    Clinton’s favorable-unfavorable figure is 37-61, not much changed from March.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/05/18/fox-news-poll-2016-national-release-may-18/

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  198. BuenaVista says:

    At this point in the 1980 election Reagan trailed Jimmah Carter by 29. Rasmussen has the Trumpster up by 5 this morning.

    30% of Sanders’ supporters say they’re going to vote for Trump over the Hill.

    I have no idea what Trump will do to hurt his chances, because he’ll do a lot, but he’s in a better position than the opponent, who has already convicted herself of 2000+ violations of the Espionage Act.

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  199. molly says:

    Off to work I go yo ho! Totin’ ma Cone. Ton remember.. you promised to post my bail LOL

    KA-ROAR!!!!

    PPP here I come

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  200. SFC Ton says:

    LOL you know it darling

    Trump has to pull 65% of the White guy vote to win. Everything else is ancillary and pointless. However.. Sanders was the White guy candidate for the DNC. If Trump pulls 30% of that vote he’ll hit the numbers and win

    Sanders and Trump are different sides of the same coin and it sees likely he’ll get a goodly number of former Sanders voters…. will he get 30% though? Sees tough. I also reckon a lot of the gop dudes who say they won’t vote Trump will vote Trump when it comes down to it but only time will tell

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  201. Tarnished says:

    I think that men are more respectful of maintaining order, even when no one is looking.

    This would only seem to be true after the age of 25, Fuzzie. I’ve worked at 4 gaming stores, either as a volunteer for a large event or as my regular job. The demographic is literally 99% male.

    I cannot begin to tell you how many huge puddles of piss I had to mop off the floor, clean off the top of the toilet or feces from all around the seat. Not to mention the candy wrappers and paper towels just littered around the floor, when an (empty!) garbage can is right next to the door to the restroom.

    It was gross and scary.

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  202. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn livin’ high on the hog

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  203. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Our experiences are seperated by decades. I’m sorry that you had to be put through that. After that job, I promised never to do that again. It’s not so much that it’s dirty, it’s that we were disrespected by strangers.

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  204. Cill says:

    Shit.

    What fucking sick matriarchy is this.

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  205. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    Agree! There is so much wrong, the4 question is where to start. Never mind the adult, consider the child.

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  206. Tarnished says:

    Ok, this is just fucking weird as hell.

    So this person’s sex is female, but gender is male.

    Alright. That’s fine. Obviously I can understand that part. They dress like a man, probably bind their breasts, and the facial hair looks real, so likely does hormone therapy. I’m fine with that too.

    But then if you are trying to live as a man, YOU DON’T BREASTFEED. The point of being trans is to cut down or eliminate one’s severe gender dysphoria. How the hell does it not just mentally F him up all over again and cause drastic cognitive dissonance by performing an action that ONLY women do?!

    It is nonsensical.
    I’m not supportive of restrictive gender roles, but this is a whole separate ballgame. Geez…

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  207. Yoda says:

    Fined $125,000 for not using zit’s proper pronoun you all are

    Liked by 2 people

  208. Yoda says:

    Use the money to take Mrs. Yoda to Planet Vegas I will.
    Swamps tiresome they can be

    Liked by 4 people

  209. Yoda says:

    Address the letter with your check to:

    Yoda
    Planet Degoba

    Liked by 3 people

  210. Yoda says:

    That address all that is needed it would be

    Liked by 2 people

  211. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Take Mrs. Yoda to Tattooine. Much different climate. Stay away from Hoth advisible it is, unless to ski you want.
    I want to visit Endor and socialize.

    Tarn,
    All your points are valid. If you look up “confusion” in the newest dictionary, you may see that photo.

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  212. Yoda says:

    Like this better you do?

    Liked by 1 person

  213. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Mine is already on the way but, it is denominated in quatloos.

    Liked by 1 person

  214. Yoda says:

    Using this authority ZI am.
    If agree with ze not, then screw zou
    Be happy that zou only get the 125K version zou do

    If the patron of an establishment doesn’t comply with the law, the owner has to throw the patron out, on pain of having to pay a fine. And, according to the Commission’s guidance, it “can impose civil penalties up to $125,000 for violations, and up to $250,000 for violations that are the result of willful, wanton, or malicious conduct.”

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/nyc-hits-peak-gender-idiocy/

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  215. Yoda says:

    A new post there would be

    Like

  216. Moehau Man says:

    “Yoda
    Planet Degoba”

    Moe
    Kauri Club Club
    Rugged Coromandel.

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  217. SFC Ton says:

    the point of all that trans stuff is “look at me” otherwise they’d never mention it, live the most quite and obscure life possible etc

    but thankfully I don’t live in yankee land, sadly they are allowed to move South and have been a plague on our culture

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  218. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I read your post comment correctly. Parons are liable for six figure fines?
    I don’t think that I want to visit NYC. What are they going to do when an out of towner is actually fined this amount? Someone who can claim he wasn’;t aware and be credible?

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  219. Spawny Get says:

    That trailer is better. I’ll still not be spending my International Glorious Patriarch Day going to see it. But I might watch it later online, if I find myself in a very charitable mood.

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  220. Tarnished says:

    the point of all that trans stuff is “look at me” otherwise they’d never mention it, live the most quite and obscure life possible etc

    Or just, y’know…a normal-as-possible life. 😉

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  221. Tarnished says:

    All my life, I have heard ”You have to do this.You have to do that.” I have done most of theose things and, having accomplished them, there is either another hoop to jump through or, the direct opposite is advised.

    Hey Fuzzie,
    I’m curious. What type of woman are you looking for?

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