Teenage MGTOW


Commenter FuzzieWuzzieBear,

I am more than a little afraid of the level of sophistication girls have. It dovetails nicely with boys just out of high school being rabid MGTOWs. If they haven’t experienced it first hand, they have seen or heard about second hand.

That means the vast majority of the boys are beyond frustrated and, even beyond angry, with the sexual marketplace.

When I was  in high school, the teens were still somewhat behaved.  Girls were not miking their new-found sexual power for all that it was capable of.  I have not experience high school lately, nor do I have recent experience with children of that age; so question is: what exactly is it like these days?

Is is such that hypergamy has played out to its natural end; where just a few top men are pursued by all of the women?  Perhaps on top of that, are the teen girls using their power to alternately obtain something from guys and then subsequently mocking them for their beta orbiter status?  I could envision all of this, for the teen years are where the behaviors resulting from society’s ills are amplified.  In my time, once again, these behaviors were somewhat muted by the rules; these days, not so much.

I can only imagine what a hell high school would be now for most students.  I would think that send teens to them  borders on child abuse.  Or am I wrong about all of this?

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153 comments on “Teenage MGTOW
  1. Indeed, I can’t imagine high school in an Inernet/social media hyped up world. It was drama enough when I was in high school in the late 1980s (gasp, I know, granny, lol!) but at least at the end of the day people went home and mostly forgot it. Now it must be 24×7! And of course w hookup culture and such being the norm on top of it, yuck! No thanks…

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti has made a afew horrifying comments over at Bloom’s.
    https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/2016/05/03/feelings-are-not-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-9589
    I am scared. If we are talking about high school girls on ampped up hypergamy, none of the high school boys will do. They will have consigned all the boys to involuntary celibate status. The boys will be unmotivated, frustraed, and furious. They will take it out on the society that created this situation for them. At the very least, they will feel that they have been betrayed by all authority.

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  3. Actually Fuzzie, many of the teens I meet today seem to have it much more together than I ever did at that age, so while in some cases it’s really bad, it’s not bad in all cases.

    But yes, some guys have it easy and some guys do not. It’s likely always been this way. Just like some girls are exceptionally good looking and doors fly open and life is easy even if they are otherwise not interesting/nice/intelligent, etc. there are a large number of not very attractive young gals, too, and for them the game is less easy. It’s always been this way.

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  4. Ame says:

    there are things i bring up to my kids about how things are, and they are a bit befuddled that *this is not normal,* because, in their world, it is normal.

    i have instilled in my girls to use great caution with all technology and media, including and especially text messaging. i did not have the same platform with my step son, and he’s had to learn the hard way a few times.

    the technology is what is the most scary to me, personally – that anything you do or say can be recorded anywhere and used for all kinds of nefarious purposes without your consent or knowledge.

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  5. Moehau Man says:

    This foreign stuff goes right over the brow-ridge of your average Moehau Man, be he male or female. No sheila is going to respect a joker who has no Kauri Club to count the dents on. “Spare the Club”, Mrs Moehau Man (my sage old mum) says, “and spoil the rub.”

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  6. Yoda says:

    What “rub” that would be?

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  7. Yoda says:

    So how many teen boys raging MGTOW they are?

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  8. Yoda says:

    What modern boys subjected to they would be?

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  9. Moehau Man says:

    Well I seem to recall one of you foreign jokers saying “ay, there’s the rub.”
    It’s the only useful thing that shake spear bloke ever came out with, if you ask me. I quote it when a sheila hits the right spot during a massage.

    “Out, damn’d spot”, Mrs Moehau Man (my literary old mum) interjected just then.

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    To get back to the original post, about raging MGTOWs, all my information is second hand. I think Deti can speak to this.
    I would not like to be a teenaged boy in this current culture. It’s bad and I don’t see it changing while I hope that it will.
    The poor boys have seen too much for their age.

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  11. Cill says:

    Speaking of which, it’s coming up 7 here on a clear cool Autumn morning and the kid is whistling merrily in the shower. We have another great day ahead of us. Cill out.

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  12. Yoda says:

    Moe and his wise Mum mentor the boy they should

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  13. Liz says:

    I think it depends where you live (unless I’m kidding myself).
    We’re kind of away from the riff raff here (too far to even bus the riff raff in). I know some of the stories I’ve told my kids from my highschool days are worse than what they’ve seen here. But we’re moving soon and I have no idea how things will be in the next place.
    And our oldest duck is leaving the nest for the big college world. I’m worried about that, too.

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  14. Yoda says:

    Sounds like a movie it does,
    “I was a Teenage MGTOW”

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  15. Yoda says:

    but at least at the end of the day people went home and mostly forgot it. Now it must be 24×7

    Important this was.
    Sad that no longer it is.
    A kid not have a Facebook account allowed it is?

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  16. Liz says:

    Our kids don’t have any social media accounts.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Life had to be simpler in the 50s when you could be a Teenage Werewolf.

    Liz,
    Worrying is central to parenting. I hope that all goes well for oldest.

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  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have only one teeenage MGTOW story to tell. There was a gal in Canada that I met through OkCupid. We never got closer than the phone but talked a lot. She had a boy in high school while we were talking and before I had heard of MGTOW. He didn’t want to have anything to do with the local gals. I presumed they were snooty but, she said they weren’t worthy of trust beyond how far they ould be thrown. What did him in was a gal who told him a bunch of lies about another guy while he was still in third grade. He did the white knight thing and beat him up. Later, she owned up to telling him lies. He will never trust a girl again and this was from third grade. As for his SMV, he was a football player.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Earlier, we heard that Ted Cruz had droopped out, Now, it is reported that Kasich is out.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/05/kasich-is-out.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2Fvoxpopoli+%28Vox+Popoli%29

    It is likely to be a Trump vs Clinton general election and she will make an issue out of gender.

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I don’t know where Captain Capitalism found this.

    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2016/05/trump-announces-presidential-running.html

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  21. Yoda says:

    Back in June, three days after Donald Trump announced his candidacy, I predicted that the most mischievous pranksters on the internet would rally around him — and that they’d represent a significant electoral and cultural force.

    I predicted that his campaign would focus on trolling the lazy, entitled Establishment elites the American people hate so much. I predicted this combination of internet-age sass would prove almost impossible for feeble opponents like Jeb Bush to overcome. As always, I was right.

    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/05/04/meme-magic-donald-trump-internets-revenge-lazy-entitled-elites/

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  22. Spawny Get says:

    From the comments on Milo’s article…

    I love these people

    Excerpts only

    August 2016: Donald Trump announces his VP. Hillary physically attacks him during a debate.
    November 2016: Donald Trump elected 45th president of the United States.
    April 2017: Hillary Clinton sentenced to 37 years for high treason. Bush family forced into hiding.

    October 2019: The great northern wall erected. “When Canada sends their people they send Beibers, they send Krogers, they send Cruzs, some I assume are good people but they elected Trudeau so we can’t take a chance”.

    June 2021: Boots on the ground in Eurabia “We will liberate them and make Europe great again”
    Jan 2022: “We got her” Merkel captured in a spider hole outside Dusseldorf. To stand trial for crimes against German people.

    3000: Humans expand to 30 star systems. Population 700 trillion “I told you we would be great again. Yuge!”
    40,000: Human empire stretches across thousands of systems with Holy Terra and the Immortal God Emperor Trump at its center. The Celestial Imperium of Trump shall rule forever.

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  23. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    This business of someone single trying to glom onto the benefit of someone who has just given birth is a new low for feminism. The outcome will be that single and married women will be politically polarized and be seen to have competing interests.

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    We’re a republic so, high treason is not possible in the absence of royalty. Milo might take it better coming from a fellow subject.

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  25. Yoda says:

    The “me-ternity” woman many babies looks like had she did

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I thought that she had skipped that. That’s why she was asking for the benefit without qualification.
    Female employees seem to use benefits to a much greater extent than their male coworkers. While they claim a pay gap, there has to be a huge difference in cost to the employer. Do you think that anyone has quanified it?

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  27. Choicy says:

    Crikey Dick mates, vagina entitlement is stupid as a box-full of hammers. Sheilas are so thick, they think money grows on trees. Me-ternity and Paw-ternity would bankrupt small businesses.

    Big corporations might afford it short term, however they can’t compete on the world stage with other countries like China which don’t have the cost of all these spoiled brat entitlements. It’s just another reason to get the work done in countries like China mate. I’m a farmer, so I can’t farm out work overseas, so I simply will not employ female workers, mate. That’s the long and the short of it.

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  28. Yoda says:

    Fuzzie Bear,

    Based on appearances it was

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  29. Yoda says:

    An SJW with two differences this is

    On the day of an annual photo shoot for the school yearbook, Hanna Bolander’s class came up with the idea that one of the girls should bare her breasts, and Bolander volunteered.

    Wonder if taunt the boys she did

    http://www.thelocal.se/20160504/why-i-bared-my-breasts-for-a-school-photo

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  30. Ame says:

    fuzziewuzziebear says:
    4 May, 2016 at 7:50 pm
    Yoda,
    “To get back to the original post, about raging MGTOWs, all my information is second hand. I think Deti can speak to this.
    I would not like to be a teenaged boy in this current culture. It’s bad and I don’t see it changing while I hope that it will.
    The poor boys have seen too much for their age.”
    ===

    it’s been rough for my step son.

    none of our 3 are on social media, but their friends are. and then there’s texting – that’s 24/7. it’s not been an issue for my girls, but it has for my SS. he had a girl we had to block b/c she just would.not.stop texting him. and there’s no respect for time of day or night or boundaries of any kind. now that he’s 18 we’re always on him to be uber careful being around any girl under 18. it’s a lot.

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  31. Ame says:

    fuzziewuzziebear says:
    4 May, 2016 at 8:41 pm
    I have only one teeenage MGTOW story to tell. There was a gal in Canada that I met through OkCupid. We never got closer than the phone but talked a lot. She had a boy in high school while we were talking and before I had heard of MGTOW. He didn’t want to have anything to do with the local gals. I presumed they were snooty but, she said they weren’t worthy of trust beyond how far they ould be thrown. What did him in was a gal who told him a bunch of lies about another guy while he was still in third grade. He did the white knight thing and beat him up. Later, she owned up to telling him lies. He will never trust a girl again and this was from third grade. As for his SMV, he was a football player.

    =======

    third grade is when girls start to get REALLY mean. i remember when my oldest was in 3rd grade there was this little ‘china doll’ – her parents had adopted her, and her dad was on staff at a large, local church, so all the teachers and staff pampered her … cause, you know, her life would have been terrible had they not adopted her so let’s go ahead and spoil the heck out of her b/c you know that’s so much better! that little thing was a mean little bitch. i gave my daughter pointers on how to deal with her. can’t remember those pointers now cause that was years ago, but i remember not leaving her to the ‘wolves’ cause, you know, all the teachers adored the sweet, precious little girl who was saved from hell b/c her parents went to china and adopted her.

    disclaimer – i am FOR adoption! i am FOR foreign adoption. adopt all the babies and kids no one wants in the whole world! just don’t turn around and raise them to be mean spoiled brats!

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  32. Yoda says:

    Today Star Wars Day it was

    Sorry, I started watching Star Wars. So far, I’m bored.

    They introduced the Han replacement. He immediately put the Secret Data into a Cute, Plucky Droid That Speaks in Babbles and Squeaks. Then he got captured by a a dude in a black mask.

    Well! I’ve never seen that before! At least not with dude being the the one captured!

    Oh, now the R2 replacement is wandering the desert to deliver the information to a Luke replacement– and check it out! she’s a Girl!

    Did I just blow your mind?

    um, the r2 replacement got captured by a weird looking small statured desert scavenger, who delivered the r2 replacement to the luke replacement.

    Are you fucking kidding me with this garbage?

    Oh instead of the bones of a large dead monster in the desert, the Luke analogue was by the body of an old dead AT-AT Walker.

    Now the Darth analogue is torturing the Leia analogue (who’s a dude).

    Um, this is just Star Wars again with gender flips.

    And why are the good guys the “Resistance”? DID THEY NOT WIN THE WAR IN THE LAST TRILOGY? What are they resisting? Succumbing to the blandishments of power?

    Seriously, the Han analogue is kept in a place that looks like the death star.

    The guy rescuing him just took off his Stormtrooper helmet and said “I’m rescuing you.” Like in the other movie.

    Now they’re pretending it’s a prisoner transfer. Like in the other movie.

    This is a garbage movie made by garbage people.

    They’re in a TIE fighter, escaping.

    They have to “take out cannons or we’re not going to get very far.” But they have to travel the length of the Star Destroyer to find the lasers to destroy (seems like they could have been avoided) then the just blow up like one of them.

    Um, now they’re teaming up to shoot down threats, just like in Star Wars (except now they’re shooting incoming missiles rather than TIE fighters).

    Garbage.

    I don’t know why the TIE fighter blew up after it sank into the quicksand.

    Now we get the “Stand on the cliff and look down at Mos Eisley” shot.

    Garbage.

    Not-Darth just said “I want that map” like Darth said “I want those plans.” He also said something like “I don’t care what it takes” like Darth did.

    Garbage.

    The white girl just attacked the black guy randomly and accused him of being a thief. #Aggressed

    There’s some running and shooting and Chasey Music now. It’s boring. Garbage.

    There’s also some lame flirtation and a sex-role-reversal where the black dude’s trying to protect the girl but GET THIS it’s actually the girl who knows how to protect the dude. #BlowYerMind #ThisIsntTheFiftiesAnymore

    They stole a #NostalgiaItem and there is further shooting and Chasey Music.

    BTW they’re teaching themselves to fly a spaceship on the, um, fly.

    “I’m getting pretty good at this” = “Spinning! That’s a good idea!”

    It’s like they took the plot elements, chase sequences, objects, locations, and dialogue from the first three movies and just swapped different elements in different scenes. So like they have the fly-through-the-spaceship part of Return of the Jedi in the part of Star Wars where Luke and Han fight off the TIE Fighters. (Yeah, a second incidence of that.)

    Now Not-Darth is getting all Voice Modulated and Angry about his Generals’ incompetence. Boy where have I seen this before?!?!

    He’s strangling a general. #TheInnovation!

    Fixing the #NostalgiaItem now with humorous yelling. I’ve never seen such cute character interplay, except in the other movies!

    #NostalgiaItem is now being dragged into the enemy ship by tractor beams.

    Give me a break.

    Oh my god they’re hiding in the cargo hold spaces.

    Garbage.

    Okay cute reversal — the enemy ship wasn’t as expected.

    Basically, so far, this is, in Mr. Plinkett’s words, a movie for babies.

    Nerd #FanService with a #CallbackQuote for bonus #Nostalgia.

    “Moofmilker” = “Nerfherder”

    OMG, Han’s problem in this movie is that he OWES A SMUGGLER LORD MONEY!!!

    Guy who speaks with Greedo’s voice is now saying Han is going to die.

    “I’ve got a bad feelling about this” – CHECK THAT BOX!!!

    Um, large thing rolling towards harrison ford in tight corridor = Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    Seriously this movie is like VH-1’s newest show, “Hey, Remember the Star Wars Trilogy?” They should have Michael Ian Black commenting. Like, “Oh, and when we saw Boba Fett, we just all thought he was sooo cool.”

    Another #NostalgiaItem Callback.

    Also, this sequence is a variation of the mynock cave.

    There is an Emperor Replacement because of course. He is slightly different than the other one. But just because there’s CGI now.

    So horrible: Not-Darth has a familial connection to a Main Hero Character.

    I might honestly just turn this crap off.

    Another #NostaligiaItem callback to the first movie (chessboard).

    The R2-replacement is now projecting his Secret Data.

    Luke was training new jedi. One boy betrayed him, turned against him. Come on, you can do better than this. Or I guess you can’t.

    Hero always refuses the Call to Adventure. Says she has to get home. That is of course from Hero With a 1000 Faces. I guess that’s not a ripoff since all movies do that. Still.

    Cantina Replacement follows hero’s refusal of the Call to Adventure.

    This movie is actually cheaper looking than I expected. Was not wowed by Cantina Ripoff Scene. Music was boring and sounded like Reggae. Didn’t sound spacey like the actual cantina’s did.

    I might put on 50 Shades of Gray again.

    The other hero, Finn, now Refuses the Call to Adventure. I guess they all have to. It’s in their Heroic Contract.

    This movie is very derivative and bland. There’s nothing interesting or new or *real*. Just all flashbacks and stuff. It’s not terrible, but it’s annoying they think they can just shove nostalgia callbacks at me and i’ll just applaud Because Reference Recognized!!!

    Wouldn’t it be great if one hero didn’t refuse the call to adventure but instead when he was invited to go on an adventure in the stars said “Fuck yeah, I’m comin’!!!”

    Series of hallucinations which generally resemble Luke’s Trial in the Cave on Deggobah.

    Ugh, this stupid little orange Linda Hunt alien appears to be a damn Yoda replacement — sex reversed, obviously!!!

    Now she’s giving a Yoda speech.

    Fuck this movie. Fuck it very hard.

    Were critics and rightwing nerdbloggers paid to claim this movie was good?

    Now we see the Destruction of Alderaan. The innovation? We see it briefly from the perspective of people on Alderaan. Here’s the takeaway: Laser beams that blow up entire planets look even dumber from close up.

    Here’s a ripoff/homage to the original: Stormtrooper armor is as useless as ever.

    Chase through the jungle. 98% chance we’ll be on speederbikes or some other small personal transports soon.

    MAJOR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT: Han Solo likes using Chewie’s bowcaster. Apparently, in 60 years, he never once shot it before. #Whatever

    This movie’s plot is like a videogame’s “story.” It *sort of* connects different scenes, in obvious and ham-handed ways, but you know the whole point is just to get to the next Level Boss.

    No speederbikes. I’m kinda disappointed that “shooting on real locations with practical effects” looks kinda as terrible as Lucas’ CGI. There’s just no reality here.

    Oh, god. Now they’ve even got Jabba the Hutt as part of the Resistance.

    Nevermind, it’s Leia.

    Movie takes a big jump up in quality as it addresses a glaring defect it had had until now: Not enough Homosexual Robot Butlers. Check that box!

    Luke/Han hug flashback.

    Hint: Never name a main villain “Snoke” unless you’re JK Fucking Rowling. It sounds stupid.

    Female Luke Replacement now in a torture device like Han was in Empire. Also, evil guy saying stuff about her “friends.”

    Vader Replacement has lot of tricks other jedi/sith didn’t. Like full-on mindreading.

    Vader Replacement looks dumb outside the context of Lena Dunham’s snootch.

    This movie makes me pine for Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

    #JediMindTrick, completely untrained. #GarbageMovieMadeByGarbagePeople

    F*** this movie. Luke had to go to Degobah to learn the Jedi Mind Trick. This girl does it without even anyone explaining the force to her. She just does it.

    New sequence — just introduced in a videogamish “Now here’s the new mission” way — is to do exactly what they did in Return of the Jedi — some heroes disabling the shields so that the other heroes can fly ships into the big building ship and blow it up from the outside.

    Leia looks like Overweight Caitlyn Jenner. It’s alarming. I’m feeling feelings I don’t feel a boy should feel!!!

    This movie is pure garbage. I can’t stress that enough. It’s seriously crap for babies and nerds who just want to believe in something. Save your money.

    This movie is seriously getting worse and it didn’t start out that good.

    This movie should be called Star Wars: Trump Force.

    The only character I like is Chewbacca.

    Direct shot swipe of Leia skuking aboard the Rebel Blockade Runner (first moments of Star Wars). It’s good because I like References that I Recognize!

    Now there’s a bit of a ripoff of the Star Wars cross-the-chasm-in-the-death-star part (where luke uses his grapple line). The chick just scales the walls.

    Kind of a ripoff of the Battle of Hoth now. I don’t know what they’re going to ripoff for the sequel. They’ve pillaged all the old references in this one.

    #Innovation: *These* X-wings are black (and kind of ugly).

    Han Solo’s role in this is to be an older Alec Guinness.

    They’ve even got a *Porkins* Replacement!

    Solo shooting up the Death Star corridor ripoff. I’ll stop pointing out the homages and ripoffs. That’s all this fucking movie is.

    1, this “Starkiller” set is ugly and dumb. It doesn’t look cool like the death star sets. It’s “darker,” yet dumb.

    2. Once you know the size of the main stage at Twickenham studios or whatever, it’s hard not to notice all the Big Sets fit into that same space.

    I’m seeing more pointless CGI than I was promised.

    Noticing once again that in the Star Wars universe, architects routinely save money by not putting in handrails on bridges over infinitely deep pits. They’re just like, “Nah, it’ll ruin the aesthetic we’re going for anyway.”

    I can’t tell you how hard I’m rejecting Adam Driver as a Big Bad. The only thing he menaces is Lena Dunham’s dirty sexpit.

    In Star Wars, Luke didn’t fight Vader until he’d been trained. Again, this movie is like Training Schmaining. People just instantly become Jedi Adepts.

    Another Training Schmaining moment, as another character does something Luke couldn’t do until he had been practicing with the Force for a whole movie (and several years).

    More shit I’ve already seen — Death Star trench ripoff.

    Not to exaggerate, but this movie is worse than The Holocaust. Hitler can now breathe easy — he’s only the #2 villain.

    The White Supremacists must love this movie. “It’s the movie that proves Hitler wasn’t so bad after all!”

    Villain says, “You need a teacher! I could show you the ways of the force!” Dude, the chick just blew through three years of Jedi training in like five minutes using her own intuition. She could teach you.

    Annnnnd… she did just teach him.

    OUT: The Force is a powerful ally, but to master it, study you must

    IN: Training Schmaining, I’m young and cute

    I can’t believe this movie is almost over. I felt nothing. About anything. Except contempt and hatred for my fellow man.

    I’m beginning to understand why people beat up nerds. Nerds, they seem to want to like things, even if they’re rubbish. They all agree this rubbishy thing is awesome and somehow this is a signal-and-countersignal in their Nerd Covens.

    Because this movie is a jackass piece of drecky shit.

    It’s not exilerating or adventurous or joyous. It’s a sloggy grind through #NostalgiaDumps and #CGIBullshit. Cartoon heroes shoot cartoon bullets at each other. It tries for an emotional impact it just doesn’t have any right to.

    All I can say is: People in this movie recover from allegedly traumatic events very quickly. Because they have to. It’s in the script that the ending be upbeat.

    Wait, is this movie not almost ending? Shit, I was hoping that was it.

    F*** me. Was that just Act II?

    I feel like 1940s Imperious Director Guy — “I asked you for magic! You’ve given me muddle!”

    Okay no that was it.

    It’s over.

    I loved it!!! Four stars!!!! Recaptures all the excitement and wonder of the original!!!!

    Update: of the four movies I liveblogged — Specter, Star Wars: Force Unleashed, Jurassic World, and 50 Shades of Gray — I think I have to say 50 Shades of Gray was the least offensively bad.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363245.php

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  33. I wonder if hill@rry is up tonight worrying which of the many wide open easy shots Mr. T will choose first? It is going to be brutal… Grab a pool chair folks!

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  34. * back peddling

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  35. molly says:

    On a map red is for Republican and blue is Democrat. There’s *way* more red than blue on the map, yet the blue states have more electoral votes. Trump has to win some of those blue states to get enough electoral votes, right?

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  36. molly says:

    Wonder food for Fuzzie and y’all (American “y’all” is catching, eh heh heh). It is the best honey, $250 for this bottle. No other honey has same health properties. Treats fungal feet, tinea, stings, burns and wounds, is a beauty treatment *AND* dee-lish-ee-uss to eat! Like butterscotch. Lots of immitators pretend to be NZ Manuka honey. Look for UMF 20 on label *AND* if it doesn’t tingle on tongue, slight burn at back of throat, it’s not the real thing. Compounds in the oil are unique to the world.

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  37. Ame says:

    Molly – I’ve heard amazing things about manuka honey. this is the one that was recommended to me, but I don’t see the umf 20+, so I guess it’s not the real deal?

    http://www.amazon.com/Wedderspoon-100-Manuka-Honey-KFactor/dp/B000VK08OC?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

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  38. Ame says:

    Yoda says:

    5 May, 2016 at 3:52 am

    “Today Star Wars Day it was”

    Yoda – that was awesome!

    is that your personal blog?

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  39. molly says:

    Ame “UMF is a registered trademark. Honey producers who are members of the Active Manuka Honey Association of New Zealand have their Manuka Honey tested in independent laboratories and are then allowed to display the UMF trademark on their jars of Active Manuka Honey. If the jar doesn’t carry the UMF trademark it hasn’t been independently tested under the Active Manuka Honey Association’s scheme.”

    http://rawmanukahoney.co.uk/manuka-honey/active-10-manuka-honey-umf-20-15-25

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  40. molly says:

    Ame the one you found on Amazon is UMF 10+ not as expensive as 20+ but still the real deal.

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  41. Yoda says:

    May 4 Star Wars Day it is.
    Second most important holiday it is.
    Only after the Glorious Patriarch’s Birthday it would be

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  42. Ame says:

    Molly – thank you for the info! I’ve added the 10+ to my amazon list for the next time i’m out. I have the 10+, so i’ll finish that first. i’m glad you brought this up b/c I’ve been meaning to ask you NZ’s about it 🙂

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  43. Ame says:

    I meant I’ve added the +20 to my list! oops 🙂

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  44. Ame says:

    today, Thursday the 5th, is the day of the funeral for a young man my step son grew up with. he is two years older than my SS, and his younger brother is the same age.

    he committed suicide over the weekend – literally blew his brains out. my husband had the misfortune of being at the scene. he’s seen lots of bad stuff, but this is only the 2nd of a person he’s known … and this young man could only be identified by his driver’s license.

    I just printed out the directions for my husband as the funeral’s in a town an hour and a half away, and i’m so heart-broken. since my SS is going with my husband, I am staying home. I did not know the family, and my SS needs his dad’s full attention.

    we don’t know the details of why, although i’m sure they’ll trickle through over time. we know the parents divorced … we don’t know the details of the divorce, but my husband and I think she left him for another man b/c she’s the one who moved out and left the kids with their dad and has remarried and moved to another town about an hour and a half away (I have nothing nice to say about her at all – a woman who abandons her children is blacklisted in my book). we also know there was a girlfriend until last week. otherwise, he was a sophomore in college … in ROTC … doing really well with his grades … very handsome … recent g/f a very hawt young woman.

    my husband is very shaken up over this … because he watched this kid grow up … and because his own son has been suicidal from sh*t from his own mom and from a girl.

    I have to add this – although, as you know, we are Christians, we do not go to church. this family is the only one to have invited my SS to church over the years – fun stuff like lock-in’s, etc. but still … and she left the husband and kids – that much is obvious for husband and kids were still in same house – presumably for another man. i’m incensed.

    this is such a scary, harsh, cold world for boys and young men. you that mentor young men … Cill, BV … what you do makes a difference. as I said idk this kid’s story yet, but I can’t help but believe that the more men a young man has supporting him, the better his chances of getting through this hell in one piece.

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  45. molly says:

    Ame it’s bad for someone you love. Hugs from me. ❤
    xx00

    I will tell Cill.

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  46. Ame says:

    thanks, Molly.

    we are very thankful there is another man in SS’s life who has known him since he was little, who invests time in him. I think it’s very important for kids to not only have their parents (if their parents will be there for them) but to also have other adults of the same gender who have invested in their lives and with whom they feel safe and confident. that’s why I get all emotional (which doesn’t show up in comments) when I read about these men investing in the lives of young men. I shared this w/my SS one day, and as he digested it he looked at me and said, “Wow, it really does take a community to raise a child.” yes, it does.

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  47. Cill says:

    I truly am sorry to hear that, Ame. Here in NZ our thoughts are with you, your husband and your stepson.

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  48. Spawny Get says:

    Ame, now you have

    1) give ss a huge hug, look him in the eyes and tell him that he is loved by yourself and others, he would be missed… and that things will get better. Get him to realise / admit that things already are getting better for him. It’s not hard for boys and men to come to the conclusion that if they died, nobody would really care. And that things will never improve. At which point, if they decide to do it, they’ll likely do it. Not like girls with their calls for attention. Do not show that you’re panicking about him. You love him, value him and think that you need to make sure that he knows that. Maybe insist on a hug each morning and evening (because you want one) so that he can’t withdraw.

    And/or

    2) there’s this approach
    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/before-you-commit-suicide.html

    I think that you should only go full Cappy Cap if you’re really at the end of your tether. But short of that, there’s some good stuff.

    3) If he’s really hurting: Get him to come poolside with the MGTOWs, wait and watch the crash, it’s going to be frigging epic. He’s young enough to see the other side, he’s young enough to prosper in the brave new world* I’m cautious about pushing young men this way unless they’re really suffering. I’d rather open their minds, give ’em the Red Pill and let them decide where to take things**

    *it won’t be Nirvana, but why not stick around to see?
    ** this is my plan, if I get a chance, with a couple of young relatives of mine that I’m concerned about.

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  49. Liz says:

    “It is likely to be a Trump vs Clinton general election and she will make an issue out of gender.”

    Hillary: “If you vote for Trump instead of a woman, you hate women!”
    Trump: “You’re not a woman.”

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  50. Liz says:

    “Female employees seem to use benefits to a much greater extent than their male coworkers. While they claim a pay gap, there has to be a huge difference in cost to the employer. Do you think that anyone has quanified it?”

    That’s one study the GAO won’t touch, Fuzzie. I’ve always wondered how much it is as well (also include the indirect expenses, like time and manpower wasted in general…I’m thinking of all the expensive military investigations sparked by one catty female writing an anonymous note and signing it “a little bird” and the nursing assistants I’ve worked with “I won’t work with her!” ect..that doesn’t even address the false assault claims, factor those in too and it’s surely a gianormous expense)

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  51. Liz says:

    “On the day of an annual photo shoot for the school yearbook, Hanna Bolander’s class came up with the idea that one of the girls should bare her breasts, and Bolander volunteered.

    Wonder if taunt the boys she did”

    Nudity is pretty common in Sweden. I have a friend who said she went on a school field trip to a nude beach when she went to high school in Sweden.
    (might’ve been Germany. Same/same pretty much)

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  52. Spawny Get says:

    Gina-normous? Yuuuuuuuuge!

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  53. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    I would be willing to bet that it was his girlfriend that sent him over the edge. Nobody you know should be too hard on themselves, there would have been little to nothing that they could have done to dissuade him.

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  54. Liz says:

    “none of our 3 are on social media, but their friends are. and then there’s texting – that’s 24/7. it’s not been an issue for my girls, but it has for my SS. he had a girl we had to block b/c she just would.not.stop texting him. and there’s no respect for time of day or night or boundaries of any kind. now that he’s 18 we’re always on him to be uber careful being around any girl under 18. it’s a lot.”

    Yeah, I think girls text a lot more than boys. Ours don’t text much at all.
    Our oldest has a wicked (sardonic) sense of humor, but the last time I looked at his phone (this was a couple of years back, but he’s almost never on it)
    I saw long texts from a girl “Hey it’s my birthday, blah blah….”
    I think he responded with a total of three words.
    “Okay”, “No”, “Cool” or something like that.
    He puts the “stow it” in stoic (like my dad)

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  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    Another thought, what part did his Mom play in setting him up for this?
    I think that suicide is the leading cause of death in men under forty five and four times as many men do it as women.

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  56. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! Good to see you! Burrito, burrito, burrito. 🐻 roll

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  57. Liz says:

    Mike printed out this quote to put on our refrigerator for the week (we have weekly quotes):

    “Never throughout history has a man who lived a life of ease left a name worth remembering.
    -Theodore Roosevelt

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  58. Liz says:

    This was kind of a funny conversation on the topic of “fighting for strangers” that came up on another thread. Last night we had dinner with a pilot friend who used to be a Navy SEAL (the subject was Mike’s new job). He said it’s amazing what the services will offer you after you tell them you’re done.
    He said the Navy conversation was like this:
    “So…you’re leaving? Well, have you thought about (this)? We can give you this, this, and this…”
    Him: “The only possible way I would stay is if you pay me for not showing up to work.”
    Navy: “We can do (this)…”
    Him: “Do I have to show up at work?”
    Navy: “Yes, sometimes.”
    Him: “Then the answer is no.”

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  59. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    What is sad is that the people who cared suffer and those who sought to harm don’t bear any guilt.

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    It is good that Vicente Fox wants to talk to Donald Trump. Trump will negotiatie in good faith. That cannot be said of Hillary.

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I am sorry that George Lucas sold his interest to Disney and that they made such a botch of The Force Awakens. It is not what any Stars Wars fan would want.
    Here’s something Disney could not screw up.

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  62. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Mike’s quote reminds me of something I have never heard elsewhere. A former boy general of the Civil War was present at San Juan Hill. He ordered, “Get those damnyankees off that hill!” It might have been Joe Wheeler, who was suffering from malaria and was delerious, and Lt. John J. Pershing could have been there to hear it.
    In the meanwhile, Teddy Roosevelt was busy taking the neighboring hill.

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  63. Liz says:

    Speaking of “fighting for strangers”
    Vietnam (ruled by communists for 40 years) is now the No. 1 fan of capitalism on the planet:
    http://qz.com/394732/vietnam-overrun-by-communists-40-years-ago-is-now-the-no-1-fan-of-capitalism-on-the-planet/

    The survey at the end is especially interesting.

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  64. BuenaVista says:

    Liz, the most interesting commentator I’ve read on the Trump phenomenon is, oddly, Scott Adams. I think he knows what is going on. You can waste an hour, delightfully, reading the last month or two of blog posts. He attracts some interesting commenters, as well.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143843564806/how-to-do-persuasion-wrong

    Apparently he’s a trained hypnotist. Hypnotists are alert to subtle changes in physical qualities in a subject. He’s especially good at noticing (which no one in the media or clerisy will mention) how decrepit Hillary is, how she changes dramatically day to day. We know she’s a drunk, that she has brain damage from a fall, and there’s something else going on with the persistent cough.

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  65. BuenaVista says:

    Children internalize parental abandonment, and it’s a permanent issue: they live with shame, fear and anger that children with two parents do not experience. This is why the normal divorced-mom, I’m-a-victim-of-a-bad-man (fmi, read “Sue” or any of the others at Bloom’s, they all say the same thing and on cue Team Woman pours out its support) effort at parental alienation is so evil. These monsters think they’re punishing the father and validating for the Team Woman world their divorce decision. Meanwhile, they cripple their children for life.

    Unless the stepson is used to hugs, I’d be skeptical about Spawny’s suggestion. (I hate hugs, but then I’m speaking from the perspective of a guy who never held hands with his mother. And bro hugs still send me around the bend. I would no more hug a young man than I would invite him to shower with me.) I’d just counsel abundant quiet time with his father. Unfortunately, suicide clusters are a real thing with adolescents.

    Maybe the boy’s father and he can take an unexpected vacation together and just chill. Go fishing, go camping, go catch a few ballgames in the big city, something like that. The father can say, “I am not in a good place, with this death, and I need some time away. Let’s go.” Then he’s giving voice to something the boy might feel, without having to get all therapeutic and girly about it.

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  66. Liz says:

    I am a fan of Scott Adams, but I hadn’t read him in a while (probably a year).
    I will catch up! 🙂

    Sue kind of intrigued me with her talk about widgets.
    What are heck are they? What do they do? I suspected fishing flies and she laughed.
    I’m reminded of the Italian holding something behind his back and saying, “I ain’t got nothin’ behind my back…” as the dog chases its own tail. I’m kind of like that!
    Or…this guy:

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  67. Spawny Get says:

    “Unless the stepson is used to hugs, I’d be skeptical about Spawny’s suggestion. (I hate hugs”

    Fair enough. I’m not much for them either by temperament. I was very surprised to receive a man-hug from my dad when I got back from Uni. It wasn’t a big issue, I wasn’t upset, but it showed a big change in his emotional demonstrations toward me. One that I was ambivalent about at the time. If he were still around I’m certain that our relationship would be good and on solid ground. But he isn’t. The problem with sudden death, the undone, the unsaid, the lack of time for things to evolve.

    I’ve learnt that it’s important to some people. It can be an important sign to give regarding isolation / withdrawl. I came to enjoy les petits bisous from the French women I worked with. And the handshakes with the guys everyday. Nothing sexual at all (the little kisses – les petits bisous), but it was a pleasant ritual. Seeing the young male gang-looking types doing it in the street was…a culture shock. Kind of made them seem more part of normality. As a Brit I got a pass from the guys, which was appreciated.

    I made some suggestions, any are free to take or leave them according to the people involved. And that’s my attitude to anything said by anyone on this blog. I’m sure that that’s understood, it’s why we don’t tend to have many holy wars around here, it’s why we have interesting conversations… In My Gloriously Patriarchal Opinion.

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  68. Liz says:

    I think the Clinton campaigners are likely to push the meme that other countries don’t like Trump.
    In response I think Trump could make a very good case that the more non-Americans hate an American politician, the more it is likely the politician is looking out for American interests.

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  69. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I wouldn’t worry about the dog in the picture. Dogs know.

    This whole business with Ame’s stepson’s fiend has me down. It is a pretty cruel world that can drive a young man to that. One of the things that keeps bubbling to the surface of my conscious is Christ’s order to render unto Ceasar what is Ceaar’s ant to God what is God’s. I can’t help but feel that the kid felt abandoned by both.

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  70. Tarnished says:

    The sooner more boys realize how the game is rigged against many of them, the better.

    Even if they don’t go level 4/shun all society MGTOW, at the very least they will be more cautious in their interactions with others, and therefore safer.

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    I regard to her reception by foreigners, Hillary’s past service sa Secretary of State may be a hinderance. They have met her.
    *silly face*

    I am serious about this. Ukraine’s Civil War started on her watch.

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  72. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Dragonfly said last night she was concerned about you. Everything all right?

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  73. Liz says:

    I think it’s relative, Fuzzie.
    Some countries won’t even let Trump visit! (cough, Swithy) 🙂
    I like his stand on Generals talking to the press.
    He’s against it.
    http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/05/03/trump-no-tv-for-generals/83866472/

    That’s awesome. Because it’s an excuse not to talk to the bastards (which is currently heavily encouraged for PR reasons). They will make quotes up too. Happened to Mike.

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  74. BuenaVista says:

    The great lesbian socialist Paglia on Trump and Hillary:

    http://www.salon.com/2016/05/05/its_not_about_sexism_camille_paglia_on_trump_hillarys_restless_bitterness_and_the_end_of_the_elites/

    She’s got it figured out pretty good.

    “The Hillary acolytes are joined at the hip to “her”, the Great Leader Who Needs No Name, the Maternal Tit daubed in wormwood, the bitter toxin left by men–those spoilers of the universe who created the master structures of modern civilization that provide us put-upon gals with jobs, transportation, abundant food, clean water, housing, electricity, and a magical disease-spurning municipal sewage system that only men seem required to clean and repair.”

    It gets better from there.

    ***

    Fuzzie you have so many concerns and fears and things to say and videos and shit. Have you considered starting a blog?

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  75. BuenaVista says:

    Also, furry stuff. Who will speak for the furries?

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  76. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    That is very sensible. Politics is dirty. That they would make stuff up is even worse. But if generals can’t talk, we will miss out on moments like this.

    It would be best if the press estricted themselves to discusing nuts and bolts issues.

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    Liz,

    1) alongside the rabid ban Trump petition there was a ‘we want Trump to visit’ one. Last I heard, the later starting pro petition overtook the lo-IQ-believe-the-UK-media-trons’ one. No idea what the end result was.

    2) http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/04/david-cameron-must-apologise-to-donald-trump-demands-advisor/
    Not a lot of expressions of support for Camermong in the comments. It’s more a ‘BOGAHIC Dave’ experience reading them.

    TL;DR – don’t believe your media’s reporting of our media. I do not hear anti-US sentiment in my day-to-day life. Apart from about the wars started by neocons. I would assert that those wars are not wanted by the Guy on the US Main Street(?) I suggest that you have the same problem with your political class as we do with ours. I’ve generally liked the Americans that I’ve worked with / met with over the decades. I’d love to see the US made great again by Trump.

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  78. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie has been invited to dip a toe in the blogging experience here. As with Bloom, if he starts one I’ll be very happy for him to link to any posts that he makes. Same goes for Ame, though I can’t remember if we’ve had that discussion.

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  79. Tarnished says:

    Yeah, I’m ok, Fuzzie.

    It’s my first full week of my new job, and we have a very large event/meeting coming up so it’s basically an All Hands On Deck situation from 9am-6pm M-F. That, plus it means I’m in the car for almost 4 hours everyday commuting since I live 1.9 hours away…

    So, just not a lot of time for life in general, including online.

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  80. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Thank you. I hadn’t realized that you had started a new job. Four hours in the car each day? Too much! Animals at home will miss you and so will we.

    Buena Vista,
    I don’t think that I could write enough to support a blog. To add to that, I am a little thin skinned. However, I think that I would be welcome to write guest posts here. I have already done one with two bear videos.

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  81. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie is listed as having ‘Author’ status on the blog.

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  82. Ame says:

    y’all.
    thanks.

    I will pass along all the wisdom to his dad. the two have a great relationship, but my husband’s pretty shaken up, so the wisdom will be good for him to hear (not to go overboard w/son, etc).

    the hug thing is an interesting topic right now.

    in march SS’s mother decided to move from the house they’ve been living in for six? years into an apartment *not* in his school district zone – and then did not get a room for him … decided to use the guest room as a storage room. this triggered the spiral that sent him to the psych hospital several weeks ago, memories of other things she’d done lighting up his brain like flashes of lightening he couldn’t turn off. the man I mentioned earlier has a son the same age, lives in the same district, and offered to let him live with them till graduation and beyond if he chooses – did it all in a man-to-man way. and they have a room just for him there, too. so he has opted for that. (this relationship has always been beneficial for both SS and the family b/c their son, same age, is high on the autism spectrum, and SS naturally helps a lot w/him as they’ve been friends since kinder).

    he still spends all the time with us he chooses as we’re just ten minutes away (neighboring school district, but still close). he has a room here that I do not go in – not even to clean it. it’s his space, and women don’t go there. I’ve found that even when he just drops by for something, he’ll go straight to his room first and come right back out. I think he’s checking to see if anyone’s been in there. his mom invaded every tiny inch of his space. I don’t go in to get dirty clothes, pick up anything, make his bed. nothing. it’s his space. he can do with it what he wants.

    so back to the hug thing. he’s a naturally affectionate kid with those whom he loves, but I noticed a need in him to back away from all mother-figures with this stuff w/his mom (who he has totally blacked out of his life now that he’s 18 and can do so – we’ve taken the brunt of that from her, for him). his dad and I talked about it, and I’ve made myself scarce when he’s around so there would be no guilt for not engaging with me. I know it’s not personal. I just know that he needs distance from me while working through the stuff w/his mom (which he is seeing a really cool male counselor for and has been since the beginning of the year).

    I’ve discerned there are times when men not only do not want women, but they *need* women to not be. his dad and I agree that this is one of those times. however, he also knows i’m here. he can call, text, come over, anything, and i’ll be there immediately for him. I think he takes great comfort in this … and in knowing i’m not trying to shove my way into his life in any form right now … that I don’t need him to prove his love for me or validate anything … that I just accept what is.

    we didn’t know if he would want to go to the funeral or not; left that up to him. I told my husband that if he did, I would bow out. if he didn’t, i’d go w/my husband; did not want him to have to go alone. SS decided to go, so I bowed out. they headed out earlier and will have the whole day together. a lot of alone time on the road. this is a good thing.

    trying to remember who said what (i’m a bit tired this morning). but I’ve taken everything y’all have written to heart and will go back over it all with my husband later tonight or tomorrow depending on when he can. will probably go back and copy it all into an email for him.

    you guys are awesome out here. thank you for caring enough to share your thoughts and wisdom and advice. this kid was at University on a Naval Scholarship and was on the Dean’s List with Academic Honors.

    may God have mercy and bring deep comfort to this kid’s father and remaining sibling, a brother my SS’s age.

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  83. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    I don’t think that there will ever be a more politically astute general that Zachary Taylor. He had a technique to avoid reporters that couldn’t be employed now. He was so sloppy that they wouldn’t approach him, thinking that he must be of no merit.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachary_Taylor

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  84. Ame says:

    Spawny Get says:

    5 May, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    “Fuzzie has been invited to dip a toe in the blogging experience here. As with Bloom, if he starts one I’ll be very happy for him to link to any posts that he makes. Same goes for Ame, though I can’t remember if we’ve had that discussion.”

    hadn’t … but thanks. I moved my blog to private for awhile b/c someone was doing some weird searches on my blog that made me uncomfortable. y’all are welcome to email me for access – it’s talkiname at gmail – or not … no hurt feelings here. it’s more of an all-me space – not a specific topic or audience. just whatever’s on my mind, so it may or may not appeal to those out here.

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  85. Spawny Get says:

    Letting it all hang out (the song at the start)

    May they get the future that they deserve

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  86. Spawny Get says:

    “thank you for caring enough to share your thoughts and wisdom and advice”

    Part of what I’m here for. I doubt that it’s just me. We have all kinds of histories around here

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  87. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    You’re a good stepmom.

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  88. Ame says:

    Spawny Get says:

    5 May, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    “thank you for caring enough to share your thoughts and wisdom and advice”

    Part of what I’m here for. I doubt that it’s just me. We have all kinds of histories around here”

    ====

    which … as I’ve mentioned to you before … is what I love about this place and what makes it so unique out here.

    Oh Glorious Patriarch … my gratitude 🙂

    ====

    Fuzzie – I hope you do write out here! we love bears 🙂

    ====

    anyone else have a blog out here where women are invited?

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  89. Spawny Get says:

    Ame,
    if you want to write posts about things concerning young men (as you have above) here, you are welcome to do so. People who care about young men are good people as far as I’m concerned. You’ve seen the tone round here (which I’d like to maintain as male centric) but you seem to have things to say that might resonate with any lurkers that we may have. This is more of a social gathering place rather than an attempt at fame, but the stats show that there are others out there yet to dip a toe in writing comments. They’ve also been slowly rising (the stats) despite some of the usual gang being occupied elsewhere much of the time recently.

    As you yourself say, no hard feelings if you don’t want to.

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  90. Ame says:

    fuzziewuzziebear says:

    5 May, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    Ame,
    You’re a good stepmom.

    =====

    Fuzzie – thank you 🙂

    in my exhausted wife/mom state (stayed up late taking care of things for my husband … being there when he awoke early), your comment brings a tear of gratitude. I plan to take a nap while they’re gone.

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  91. SFC Ton says:

    in all cases of a young trooper eating a gun which I am aware of, it was over a woman

    Stormin Norman should be in jail for exceeding his authority and accepting a surrender before the POTUS says . And as the video shows, total pussy on top of it

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  92. SFC Ton says:

    anyrate if I was king of the Confederate States of Ton, active duty military men( of which there would be very few) would not be allowed to marry, have girlfriends or even bang the same whore twice in a row.

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  93. SFC Ton says:

    In response I think Trump could make a very good case that the more non-Americans hate an American politician, the more it is likely the politician is looking out for American interests.
    ————-

    Thats half of why he is popular
    the other half is that the so called “elite” of this nation doesn’t like

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  94. BuenaVista says:

    In lieu of starting a blog, Fuzz, I recommend going out to get laid. Broad–er horizons, etc.

    Ton, it is my understanding that it was Colin Powell who called off the turkey shoot, because he thought it exceeded the UN mandate to expel, but not destroy, the Iraqis. The British general in the room went apeshit

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  95. Yoda says:

    Bear guest post here he could

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  96. Yoda says:

    Waited 900 years for this I have

    Caitlyn Jenner will appear on a summer cover of Sports Illustrated wearing “nothing but an American flag and her Olympic medal,” a source reveals in the latest issue of Us Weekly.

    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/caitlyn-jenner-to-pose-naked-for-sports-illustrated-cover-w205187

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    “The British general in the room went apeshit”

    Good for him (if I’m reading you right).

    I was shouting at the TV. One of the stupidest decisions ever made. And why was it made? TV coverage of that immense enemy Iraqi convoy that was blown to shit heading back to Iraq with all the loot. That made the fucking simpletons back home feelz bad. The time for feelz was before you sent the military in.

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  98. Egads re Caitlyn, Sports Illustrated should take a look at what BV had to report about Target the other day. Not everyone is on the bandwagon, despite what the MSM may say…

    Wrapped in an American flag is, in my mind, particularly offensive…

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  99. Ame I am so sorry to hear about your SS’s friend. 😦 My condolences to you all.

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  100. Dragonfly says:

    Yes, go out Fuzzie!!!!

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  101. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I will have to think of a good topic to post about.

    About Caitlyn on the cover of SI, it will be a good litmus test. If sales lag, it will indicate disapproval.

    About Gulf War I, my understanding was that the Un only authorized the liveration of Kuwait. We could have invaded Iraq but that would have been exceeding orders of Schwartzkopf. The last general to do that was Andrew Jackson in Florida. He got away with it because of communications were so slow at that time.

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  102. Liz says:

    “Caitlyn Jenner will appear on a summer cover of Sports Illustrated wearing “nothing but an American flag and her Olympic medal,” a source reveals in the latest issue of Us Weekly.”

    I hope it’s a very big American flag that covers a large area of Caitlyn.

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  103. BuenaVista says:

    Fuzzie, failing that, just go pay for a blowjob. Even a massage with a happy ending from a nice vietnamese chick. Don’t wear a fuzzy costume, that will freak everybody out.

    Spawny, the general’s name was of French extraction: Le Boutillier, or something. It began with B, it is French. The account seems to have been airbrushed from the internet, which, I should think, supports my contention.

    By not destroying the Sunni army, the Shia community was bombed and strafed into its present intransigence, with al Sadr handing the country to Iran.

    But Powell and Bush were worried about CNN televising the destruction of an army, so they enabled Saddam’s hold on power.

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  104. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Upthread, you linked a video. In the first portion of it was a music video in Japanese of girls expressing hypergamic demands. Where the heck do they get off? Two thirds of young Japanese men are herbivore leaving only one third available. I guess they can’t math well.

    Dragonfly,
    Thank you for the good wishes but, I don’t think so. I ran out of patience with this marketplace when I was on OkCupid. In their desire to take advantage, women have killed all venues.

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  105. BuenaVista says:

    Fuzzie, that was Chinese.

    Have you considered not whining publicly about your experience on OKC, for 24 hours?

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  106. Liz says:

    “By not destroying the Sunni army, the Shia community was bombed and strafed into its present intransigence, with al Sadr handing the country to Iran.”

    This is (ultimately) true, but respectfully, I think it’s hindsight 20/20.
    When Iraq agreed to the terms of the ceasefire (the UN resolutions were the agreement terms for a ceasefire), those were the terms.
    It would be a mistake to just ignore those terms and proceed anyway.
    Saddam did not comply with the terms…but those were the terms he agreed to, and the world was supposed to make him accountable if he reneged.

    Most people here are old enough to remember we had an Arab coalition that funded most of that war. We also had troops stationed in, and flying over the airspace of those Arab countries, at the behest of their governments.
    They were against invading Iraq and removing Saddam from power (unsurprising that our Arab partners were scared to death that we would take out Hussein because they knew that they had a many opponents as the Iraqis). It would have had cascading consequences. We had the ceasefire terms, which Saddam agreed to, for which we expected him to comply.

    “But Powell and Bush were worried about CNN televising the destruction of an army, so they enabled Saddam’s hold on power.”

    Again, respectfully, I don’t think this is true. See: Highway of Death.
    They televised the destruction of plenty.

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  107. Dragonfly says:

    I’m sorry Fuzzie… I don’t know anything about Okcupid or tinder or “snapchat” except that they seem to be more targeted toward one night stands, and I know you’re not looking for that kind of thing.

    I’ve known shy men that found wives on eharmony though – it seems like the women who are really serious go through that or (maybe?) match.com? If I were a single woman looking for a man that was serious about a good relationship, I’d stay away from the slutty places and would go through eharmony or match.com,…. unless I couldn’t find anyone there, then I’d look at the other places maybe.

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  108. Spawny Get says:

    BV, thanks. I ‘knew’ the name once you kickstarted the recall. That’s how my memory rolls.

    Peter de la Billière
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_de_la_Billi%C3%A8re

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  109. Spawny Get says:

    “Again, respectfully, I don’t think this is true. See: Highway of Death. They televised the destruction of plenty.”

    After the video of the Highway of Death, the politicians et al were worried on the public perception. You and BV may not be in disagreement, merely misunderstanding each other.

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  110. Spawny Get says:

    In my inexpert and thus highly humble opinion; never mind the TV coverage of events, the war should have only ended with Sadam on his knees on global TV. Thus ensuring that everyone knew, irrevocably, that he lost. Instead they left him in power, able to spin all kiinds of shit over why the infidels lost the war. Thus ensuring that the matter was not brought to a close.

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  111. Liz says:

    Swithy, Saddam got press as an object of pity. But after his demise it was pretty clear he was the reason the country had stayed together. Kind of like Tito in Yogoslavia.
    I think Bush I understood this.

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  112. BuenaVista says:

    Liz, when you risk the death of your countrymen, you finish what you started. The point of my comment was not my superior 20/20 hindsight; it was the SAS officer in the room went ballistic when an opportunity to destroy an aggressor army was denied by two Americans who forgot the lessons of WWII, i.e., the last time we won a war. When you engage an enemy, you destroy the enemy, and the girls and nancy boys at the UN can pee in their pants all they want.

    There’s a direct line, Liz, between Powell and Bush backing off, and Obama and Clinton’s abandonment of Iraq, Syria and Benghazi.

    ***

    Thanks, Spawny, I will keep looking for the eyewitness report of DLB’s reaction to the American president’s command to stand down. It makes sense that DLB began his career as an enlisted guy in the infantry, and matriculated to the SAS. I had just figured he was a fancy dude who went to Sandhurst.

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  113. BuenaVista says:

    Saddam slaughtered the Shia after he lost the war. Schwarzkopf and Bush knew it was happening and let it happen. This was strategically imbecilic.

    And here we are.

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  114. BuenaVista says:

    Back to the situation in Ame’s house, if a boy’s mother abandons or attacks him (really, the same thing), his brain is wired (independently of thought) to confirm a terrible bias: no woman will ever love him. So that’s the point of departure, in the current circumstance, for your stepson in his evaluation of what his friend did to himself. Words don’t make a difference, so don’t think a good “counselor” or stepmother can make him whole.

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  115. Liz says:

    “Liz, when you risk the death of your countrymen, you finish what you started.”
    Which would be the ceasefire terms. Didn’t WE agree to those as well? If not, okay your point stands if so then we are just breaking our word, while launching attacks from countries we’ve made agreements with. This wasn’t a simple equation.
    Do we look at consequences BEYOND ousting Saddam? It doesn’t seem like we did that even after having over a decade for them to try and think that one out.

    “The point of my comment was not my superior 20/20 hindsight; it was the SAS officer in the room went ballistic when an opportunity to destroy an aggressor army was denied by two Americans who forgot the lessons of WWII, i.e., the last time we won a war.
    When you engage an enemy, you destroy the enemy, and the girls and nancy boys at the UN can pee in their pants all they want.”

    Did Hitler agree to the ceasefire terms? I don’t think so. If we didn’t like them, we should have drafted the ceasefire terms differently.

    “There’s a direct line, Liz, between Powell and Bush backing off, and Obama and Clinton’s abandonment of Iraq, Syria and Benghazi.”

    I disagree. We didnt’ abandon Iraq, we had a low level air occupation over the place for over a decade with our forces squatting in all sorts of nefarious places, “just in case”. I think that was the road to perdition, because it incited our enemies to have troops stationed in the land of Mecca and Medina. This was not supposed to be a longterm thing, but Clinton was so inept he had no idea what to do.
    Right after the Gulf war, in the early nineties some smart people (the military still had them then) came up with an idea to prove the USAF could deploy at a moment’s notice, knowing they might have to do it.

    FWIW: There was the plan instead of having people sitting out in all those areas of operation. It was called the AEF (Air Expeditionary Force). The plan was to have five different demonstrations where assets would deploy quickly with all of their kit to show that if needed, planes could get there fast and until then they could stay in the CONUS to save resources. There were supposed to be five deployments of this type (AEF 1-5). And they did it, and it worked great.

    Well, then the flag officers in the area of operations were in a position where they didn’t want to let those assets go. They like being able to say they have X number of assets under their personal purview, and it looks better for them. So the kept launching AEFs. And kept our guys out in tent city, Saudi. (because Clinton was an idiot)

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    “Liz, when you risk the death of your countrymen, you finish what you started.”
    Which would be the ceasefire terms. Didn’t WE agree to those as well?

    Negotiation of the ceasefire became a farce as soon as the world could see that the allies had no taste in finishing the war. Because of the TV coverage and resultant crocodile tears of the politicians.

    Once Saddam knew that the allies just wanted it to stop…he had no need to concede as much as if the allies were still driving on Baghdad. The whole business was a catastrophuck.

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  117. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Dragonfly,
    I did check out eHarmony. You can access their forums without joining or, at least, you could when I was looking. It’s not working there either. Given their model, it should work like gangbusters. I have heard that of the marriages of people that they put together only five percent end in divorce.

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  118. BuenaVista says:

    1. The air surveillance and discipline of Iraq did not happen when Obama and Clinton ran the country. So that comment is mysterious.

    2. I have no idea why you’re comparing American obligations, to a ceasefire in Iraq, to the obligations or options available to Hitler and his destroyed country. In truth, what you’re arguing is that the USA should have stopped at the Rhine.

    3. Under the ‘aerial occupation’, Saddam killed 200,000 Shia. We’re paying for that now.

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  119. Liz says:

    “1. The air surveillance and discipline of Iraq did not happen when Obama and Clinton ran the country. So that comment is mysterious.”

    The long deployment (Pdf document)

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Documents/2000/July%202000/0700deploy.pdf

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  120. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The UN mandate was to free Kuwait. That was accomplished.
    Norman Schwartzkopf had to deal with all these armchai critics for the last part of his life. I have to wonder if that accelerated his demise.

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  121. BuenaVista says:

    Regarding “armchair critics”: do you include people who worked counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism, phenomena an emasculated USA encouraged? For 10 years, here and elsewhere? Just curious.

    I also feel really, really terrible about how Schwarzkopf’s feelings were hurt.

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  122. Liz says:

    Saddam invaded one tiny country and we established an Arab coalition and kicked his ass out. FAST. In record time. He was pummeled.
    We were launching our missions from these Arab states. So it would have been similar (not identical) to Great Britain saying, “Hey that’s enough Yanks” in WWII and us ignoring them while we launched our campaign from their country.
    I brought up the Hitler comparison since “the lesson of WWII” were alluded to.
    I don’t like arguing with you BV (and Ton and Swithy) I just see this differently.
    I won’t argue further.
    And that “long deployment” article above…we lived it.

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  123. Liz says:

    Just one more point (then I’m done blabbing).
    I think one of the more important things to account for when it comes to foreign policy interests is to ask “what happens next”?
    We haven’t seemed to have a clue for the past two decades.
    What would happen next if we’d taken over Iraq and ousted Saddam then?
    I don’t know.
    I don’t know who would have filled his shoes and been a counter to Iran.
    Maybe the “Arab spring” would have happened sooner. Saddam’s country, after being a Soviet satellite so many years, was more secular than most of the orbiting countries.

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  124. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Thank you for your patience. I’m done too.

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    “Hey that’s enough Yanks” in WWII and us ignoring them while we launched our campaign from their country.

    I don’t think we’d have been in a position to complain, not morally anyway. Also, it would have been stupid and shortsighted of us to leave Hitler and Stalin to fight it out for the European mainland. Either result would have been bad.

    What would happen next if we’d taken over Iraq and ousted Saddam then?
    I don’t know.
    I don’t know who would have filled his shoes and been a counter to Iran.

    Now we’re getting to why the sequel was an absolute clusterfuck. I’d love to know why there were no plans to run Iraq after the inevitable victory. But now we’re getting close to saying that everyone was incompetent (politician and military leadership), or there was a deliberate failure because insert-cabal-name here wanted eternal small wars in the Middle East for reasons.

    I don’t mind arguments around here, FTR. As long as it stays impersonal. Having said that, I’m done afaics. 😉

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  126. Liz says:

    Fuzzie, I enjoy these types of discussions (and miss them greatly).
    But this probably isn’t the place for them, and I dont’ want to anger anyone.

    “Now we’re getting to why the sequel was an absolute clusterfuck. I’d love to know why there were no plans to run Iraq after the inevitable victory. But now we’re getting close to saying that everyone was incompetent (politician and military leadership), or there was a deliberate failure because insert-cabal-name here wanted eternal small wars in the Middle East for reasons.

    Not arguing, so not going against what I said above.
    I think once we got our foot into the ME the plan was to park and set up military contacts in the area. This was a BAD BAD plan.
    I don’t think there was any plan to run Iraq after the fact, beyond getting him out of Kuwait (which was the main plan). I don’t think the plan to get Saddam out of Kuwait while not having a plan on how to take over and run Iraq afterwards was (necessarily) incompetent. There may not have been any better immediate options.

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  127. Liz says:

    Oh, just reading again Swithy….your comment was about the second Gulf war. Yeah, that was very very much a clusterfuck. They thought we’d be welcome (even brought boxes of little US flags to wave! They were that out of touch). Craptastic beyond craptastic.

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  128. Spawny Get says:

    I was talking about the second visit, I remember being shocked that there was no plan for administering the country. I seem to remember shock in the press at the time. Since then, all I’ve heard confirms that the army had to scramble to come up with personnel capable of stop gapping crucial civilian administrative roles. I’m not saying that the military caused the issue, mind you. It appears there was a catastrophic failure to plan the aftermath of the war. I’d say that was more a political issue, but others here have more insight, I’m sure.

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  129. Spawny Get says:

    Ah, there we go. No problem.

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  130. thedeti says:

    Fuzzie:

    I’ve been reading and skimming your comments about dating, OKC and eHarmony.

    From what I remember, you’re a 50 something never married man.

    Unless you are extremely physically attractive, i.e. top 10% for your age/demographic, online dating is a waste of time and an unmitigated disaster. I don’t care if it’s the Christian ones or the ones for singles “of a certain age”. If you are very physically good looking, then you can try online dating. But, if you have tried online dating and met with failure, my guess is you’re one of the 90%.

    You will fare much better getting out there and meeting women. I was just telling this forum a couple days ago there is a glut of divorced women aged 35-55 who are lobbing themselves at average looking middle aged married men with just enough forthrightness to make it lobbing and just enough plausible deniability to call it hobnobbing with acquaintances.

    A bit of text game, a $20 spent on a cocktail or two at a bar, some smirking and sexual double entendre, a bit of listening to sob stories, and some forward maneuvering coupled with BV’s patented go in for the kiss would be more than enough to grease the gears for a liaison with one of these used but well preserved models.

    In plain English: I can see that a 40-something divorced woman who has taken reasonably good care of herself yet hasn’t been in a relationship for 2 years and hasn’t had a second date for one year is champing at the bit for some sexual attention from a guy who isn’t afraid to give it to her and isn’t afraid to assert himself sexually. She is dying to show even an average man that she’s “still got it”, that she can still garner the attentions of a man, and that she can still fuck like she’s 27 (even if she needs to icy hot her back and put on a knee brace afterwards).

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  131. thedeti says:

    And can I say — I have it on pretty good authority that these divorced women are still down for the occasional romp for the same reasons younger women fuck:

    (1) Because the man is so attractive she can’t the opportunity pass without sex;

    (2) because she’s just horny and because you are the top contender who was in the right place at the right time, you will get to scratch her itch that night; and

    (most commonly for this demographic) (3) because she hasn’t had sex in ages, she loves the attention she’s getting, she’s in a great mood, and she wants to break her “slump”

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  132. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve heard nothing good about online stuff except from the odd PUA working on sheer number of approaches. If you’re still looking, Deti’s advice does sound like it’s worth a whirl.

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  133. thedeti says:

    But one thing I will say about the “single woman or divorced woman with kids, 35-55” demographic is that damn near ALL of them are carrying around significant baggage.

    They are that way, or they wouldn’t have made it to 35 without a husband (indicates inability to forge and keep a man. Low relational value/high SMV. Low future time orientation).

    They are that way, or they wouldn’t have a failed marriage under their belts (inability to sustain a relationship once formed. Inability/unwillingness to compromise. Low FTO.)

    It appears to me that many of them have a mental disorder of one sort or another, most commonly depression. They are stressed out beyond belief — they almost all work full time in jobs with varying degrees of stress (i.e. they work like men their age). They are raising children mostly alone. Or they don’t have kids, which is a source of neverending resentment and disappointment. They have had a string of failed relationships.

    These women are good for sex and for dating only. They are not good for long term relationships.

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  134. Ame says:

    BV –
    “Back to the situation in Ame’s house, if a boy’s mother abandons or attacks him (really, the same thing), his brain is wired (independently of thought) to confirm a terrible bias: no woman will ever love him. So that’s the point of departure, in the current circumstance, for your stepson in his evaluation of what his friend did to himself. Words don’t make a difference, so don’t think a good “counselor” or stepmother can make him whole.”

    wisdom and truth right there.

    imo – that stuff never leaves a person. i experienced it personally w/my parents, and my girls with their dad.

    i obviously don’t know how the male brain is wired, so i appreciate the insight.

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  135. SFC Ton says:

    Powell use to brag about talking GB1 into not destroying the rest of Sadamas military. As he relates the story Storming Norman stopped the killing with no authority to do so. An E5 does that and he goes to jail. Then Powell brought the news to GB1, GB1 wanted to level the fucker. Powell then did the it won’t look good on CNN and to our “partners” so Bush took the deal,

    That makes all three pussies in their own right

    Guys like we did go help the Shia but it was often to little to late. if I was one of them foreign type, I would never side with the USA because the USA never keeps their word. We told the Shia and the Kurds to rise up and we would cover them. They did. We didn’t, not to any real degree

    Gulf War round 2 happened because we didn’t finish the job in round one. Think of a boxing match. Knock a guy out in one punch in the 1st few seconds and he thinks you got lucky and wants a rematch. Win by decision and he thinks you got luck and wants a rematch(and that you are a pussy). Beat the semi fuck out of him for 4 rounds, then break his jaw and skull in the 5th round, go home and ass fuck his wife and daughter and he will be your bitch for life

    Which one of those applies to Gulf War 1? Certainly not the last which is why Sadama thought GW2 was bluffing. We called his bluff. In every way that mattered to Sadama, he won Gulf War Round 1

    Gulf War round 2: armatures always get this wrong. We didn’t give a fuck about rebuilding Iraq. That was eye wash. It was about turning Iraq into a hajji meat grinder. A-stan is too tough to get to but Iraq is easy travel for hajjis. All the jihadist went to Iraq. So much so that jihad recruiters where begging people not to go to Iraq but to go other places. Like the USA. They showed up in Baghdad, blew up buses full of hajji kids etc and played lead tag with American infantrymen instead of blowing up school buses full of American kids and playing lead tag with preschoolers

    Gulf War round 2 is very much a success in that vein, though poorly executed and to much of our blood was shed to make hippies and the fags in Europe less pissy about the whole thing

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  136. Cill says:

    BV
    don’t think a good “counselor” or stepmother can make him whole

    Yes. This is the reason I didn’t plunge headlong into helping the young bloke I’ve referred to as “the kid”. In fact it was BV or thedeti who advised me to “do” rather than talk. I took that approach over the 7 days, and it worked. He saw how I do things, and some of my interaction with women. When he began to ask the right questions, I knew I wasn’t wasting my time. The “doing” led to the talk. Rome was not built in a day, but I’m bloody glad now I did something for the kid.

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  137. SFC Ton says:

    as a general rule, never listen to an officer about military matters.

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  138. Ame says:

    Cill … this may sound weird, but on behalf of the kid who cannot yet know the depth of what you’ve done, thank you.

    i get so tired of people telling me stuff, platitudes, just to make themselves feel better over crap that’s happened in my life (not people out here, people who supposedly know me irl). their words are meaningless. people know the difference btw words and time invested.

    i have a sister who has occasionally tried to play the peacemaker btw my parents and me over the years. she’s finally given up … b/c they started doing the same things to her … and b/c she saw it was pointless. idc what my parents say anymore. it’s all bs. they haven’t supported one positively said thing in all the years of my life. not one. their words are bs. their actions have far out-weighed any benefit their words could have ever possibly created.

    i know that only time and consistency can possibly have a positive effect. this has proven true with my girls. it would probably shock people to know what my then five-year-old daughter could actually articulate when her dad did things to her. i would just listen, knowing there was nothing i could say. nothing. all i could do was live out a different life for her. at eighteen, she knows i’m different. she’ll even say, her own words, that i’m a great mom b/c i’ve been there for them. i stayed. i’m here. nothing about words. all about consistent action. now my words have real power.

    i know this is true for my SS. my words are meaningless. wasted. and the only good my past actions over the last seven years will be as a foundation for my future actions, which he has yet to see. if i pull out and screw up, all past actions will be meaningless.

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  139. Ame says:

    to borrow from Liz’s playbook … squeee!!!

    SS spent a few w/me after funeral today … love that kid! asked me for help on something next week, too 🙂

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  140. Spawny Get says:

    Election results programme (correct spelling) has just started on tv. Fingers crossed for Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party. Seriously. If it does as badly as his leadership deserves, he might get the royal order of the boot. Corbyn is the UK’s Barnpot Bernie Sanders equivalent. The best opposition any sane government could wish for.

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  141. Liz says:

    I had a big scare about an hour ago. Mike and I were out on the boat, and we got a call from our second son (our oldest was out).
    “Mama, are you almost home?”
    Me (after I asked Mike), “We’re about ten minutes from shore is everything alright?”
    “No! It’s an emergency. This is as bad as it could possibly be. Do you have time to talk?”
    Holy crap.
    I asked Mike to turn off the motor so I could hear him better, then he procedes to tell me how they made a pizza and the first one didn’t turn out well, so they made another and he thinks the new pizza pan warped under the 405 degree temperature and now they might have to scrap that dough.
    When he was finished I said, “Okay. No big deal, I’ll deal with the pizza when I get home. PLEASE do not ever scare me like that again.”
    Good grief, I think I aged five years in a couple of seconds.

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  142. Yoda says:

    A new post there is

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  143. Yoda says:

    Liberals freak out about everything; they’re offended by everything. It seems like on a fairly regular basis it’s an almost quasi-competition to see who can be the most unhinged. Well, look at Fusion’s Xavia Dryden. She’s a half-black and half-white. Her husband is white. She’s pregnant, and freaking out that her child could be white. Oh, it gets worse. She hopes that her possibly white son’s privilege doesn’t divide the family. She also hopes that he recognizes her as his mother (via NewsBusters):

    “These are the fears I harbor for the quarter of my son that is black. For the whiteness within him, and for myself, I harbor other fears—fears of erasure that fill me with shame, because while I pray that my son will not suffer the slings and injustices of American Otherness, I also pray that his privilege, should he inherit it, will not divide us.”
    “I fear that my son—insulated for nine-odd months in the warm shelter of my womb—will burst into the world and not recognize me. I fear that he will, in the midst of latching his tiny mouth around my nipple, see its darkness against his impossibly pale skin and see not his mother, but a stranger.”

    Now, she also says she’s hopeful that none of this will happen. I am too. But let’s be frank—this is pretty crazy. This is what your worried about. You’re not worried about the umbilical cord possibly being wrapped around his neck, a premature birth, drops in blood pressure, or any pregnancy-related medical emergency—you’re worried about whether his white privilege might divide the household. Let’s get a grip and focus on the problems that are real.

    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/05/biracial-fusion-writer-fears-her-child-might-be-white-prays-that-inherited-privilege-wont-divide-family-n2158396

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  144. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    You’re all right. You took the other side in an arguement about the First Gulf War. What I saw other people doing was yo start an arguement and take the other side, never mind the subject.

    I have had to do some thinking about this. SElf professed alphas are full of themselves.

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  145. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Thanks again. I hope that you can recover from that scare your son put you through. My father didn’t have a grey hair on his head until I turned sixteen.

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  146. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    I think that for most men fifty nad over, online dating is the last stop. In theory, it should be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    The problem remains, what other venue is out there that works? The answer is none. In order to gain advatange, women have ruined them all.

    Thank you for your good advice and good wishes. I need a herd think.

    At the top of ot, the alphas can have all the women if the women like them so much. To put it “Gone With the Wind” allusion, Rhett Butler is welcome to Scarlett O’Hara. Ashley Wilkes is right to want no part of her.

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  147. Ame says:

    Liz – aaaaak! those Mom-Moments are harsh to recover from. i’ve had a few real ones, and a few false ones over the years.

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  148. thedeti says:

    Fuzzie:

    Maybe you should try some of the online dating services for older people: ChristianMingle, OurTime, and whatever else is out there. From what I can see and have heard, they are full of women in your target demo (35-55), divorced, with kids.

    I can tell you, Fuzzie, that if you’re operating in this demo, divorced women with kids is going to be about 80% of the available pool. These women are starved for affection and interest from masculine men who aren’t afraid to show sexual interest in them.

    If Ton or BV wanted to, they could absolutely clean up with this pool

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  149. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Drti,
    I have no doubt that those two woud clean up no matter where they went. That is the benefit of being alpha.
    While I was on OkCupid, I did consider other sites. It has to be more of the same. Boy writes to girl and never hears back. You would think the pay sites would make them more motivated but, something is absent. I think that most of the women are trolling for attention.
    At this time, I don’t quite know what to do. Doing nothing is a decision but it is without risk.
    Thanks for thinking well enough of me to make an effort. You’re right about their desire but, they do put up a lot of barriers. For them, it is kind of self defeating.

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  150. SFC Ton says:

    LOL I cleaned up with middle and early 20’s hard bodies.

    Why would I want to clean up with the other sort?

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