Red Pill Advice for Boy


Most of us here would agree that red pill education is vital for any boy in the feminist world of today. Those of you who have sons are sure to have thought about this. I don’t have sons but I do have a lot of nephews and young male cousins.

I also have friends who have sons. One of them is a young bloke who has been dealt some bad shit by a young woman. The kid is really stressed about it. His parents are both blue pill and are not dealing with the problem the way it needs to be dealt with. Someone needs to give the kid some overdue red pill education. I wouldn’t usually interfere outside of my family, but I do like this kid a lot and he looks up to me. He deserves a better break than he’s getting.

You might be wondering why I can’t just fire ahead and deal with it, as I have dealt with “problem young men”. Well, this case is different for the following reasons:

1. the parent is not an irresponsible solo mother. This kid’s parents are two decent and otherwise responsible people who have failed to prepare their son for the cold hard reality of the woman’s world.

2. He’s younger than the men I’ve helped, and is dependent on his parents. He needs to be able to get on with them.

3. In the case of the problem young men, the goal was automatically MGTOW as they accompanied a MGHOW (me) going about his everyday tasks. In the case of the kid, the goal is just Red Pill. MGTOW would make things far too difficult between him and his parents.

I won’t try to open the parents’ eyes to red pill. They are the usual type that won’t be persuaded. They are blue pill through and through.

So in terms of experience, I’m in new territory here folks. How best to introduce red pill to a kid who desperately needs it but whose parents wouldn’t agree with it at all?

I’d really appreciate your input. Any comments on or around the topic will be appreciated.

Perhaps you’re facing a similar situation yourself, and are wondering what would be the best approach. Perhaps you have sons of your own. Perhaps you know of a case where someone had to deal with this type of situation. Perhaps you’ve had experience in passing on the red pill to others. Perhaps your own experience in receiving the red pill would be relevant. Whatever, your thoughts on the subject will be much appreciated.

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195 comments on “Red Pill Advice for Boy
  1. Tarnished says:

    Like Cill, I have no sons. However I do have 2 younger brothers, almost exclusively male friends, and a 99% male customer demographic (many of whom I get along very well with, as the gaming industry is more personable than most retail/distribution jobs).

    One huge factor in helping to spread MGTOW ways of thinking (since I’m not actually a RP follower myself) is to point out double standards in conversations. Though it can be in nearly any topic, the biggest ones are Relationships, Divorce, Schooling, College Advantages, and Commercials/Sitcoms. It becomes absurdly easy to give small nudges here and there, letting these young men know that it’s okay to notice discrepancies in how the sexes are treated. Then impart to them that not only are dissatisfaction, anger, frustration, and sadness all viable emotions to have, but also that there’s another option:

    They don’t have to play the game.

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  2. Tarnished says:

    Honestly, this comes as the biggest shock to a lot of them. That they really, truly have a choice with who they associate with, spend their time with, what they use their money on, if they get married or, hell, even if they date. It’s as though a new world has been opened for these young men.

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  3. Yoda says:

    Send him to Degoba you should.
    Teach him I will

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  4. Yoda says:

    Give him a copy of “The Rational Male” you could

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  5. Yoda says:

    Teach him to think logically one might.
    Teach what critical thinking is.
    Explain general fallacies one could.
    Figure out the rest on his own perhaps

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  6. Ame says:

    how old is this young man?

    asking b/c wanting to know if he’s still underage or if he’s an adult.

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  7. Cill says:

    He’s still underage.

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  8. Ame says:

    that’s tough, and kudos to you for caring enough for the whole situation – the kid, his relationship to his parents, etc.

    we’ve had somewhat similar things with my step son while he was still living in his mother’s house … helping him see the truth while maintaining as positive relationship as possible w/his mother b/c there was no way the courts would allow him to move from there under 18. unfortunately, she’s forced it since 18 (just a few months ago) to be very volatile. doesn’t sound like this boy’s parents would do that.

    i agree with Tarn. nuggets of truth, opening his eyes to them. just learning there is another way to think is powerful. while he learns these, he will learn you are trustworthy b/c what you teach him will prove to be true. then he may very well seek you out more directly.

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  9. Tarnished says:

    b/c there was no way the courts would allow him to move from there under 18.

    Does your state allow for a minor to become emancipated? I looked into this for myself when I moved out as a minor since there was the threat of my father trying to get custody if he ever learned I was on my own. Ended up not needing to go ahead with the paperwork, but it wouldn’t have been a difficult process either way. It’s a good option that not many realize is there.

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  10. Cill says:

    Ame, good question.

    The kid is 15.

    14 is the age at which a child can be left alone without supervision.

    16 is the age at which people have a right to leave school
    Start full-time work
    Choose which parent to live with, and decide whether and when to visit the other parent.
    Choose to leave home.
    Get married or enter into a civil union with parents’ consent

    18 is the age at which people are legally independent of guardianship
    Can vote or drink alcohol legally.

    21 is the official Age of Majority in NZ, the age at which a person can adopt children or be a trustee or executor under a will.

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  11. Tarnished says:

    The War Against Boys by Christina H. Sommers and Men On Strike by Dr. Helen Smith are excellent reads. The fact that they are both from women authors might make it more palatable to the BP parents, should he ever be seen reading them.

    Conversely, one could get him a book like Guyland: The Perilous World Where Boys Become Men by Michael Kimmel. It’s misandric drivel, but would be an excellent way to open discussions on such thoughts and why they’re wrong/sexist.

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  12. Ame says:

    Tarn – there are, but last time i talked to my attny generally about stuff like that (about six? years ago), he said the courts in texas were cracking down on that b/c kids were taking advantage of it to pit parents against each other.

    also, the courts here force one to go through a lot of red-tape if one wants to prove the other parent unfit. it’s not fail-safe, and the divorce industry is so economically lucrative that it’s not going away anytime soon.

    generally, in divorce, the parent with the primary living custody MUST live in the county the divorce was filed or a contiguous county. or, more specifically, the CHILDREN must live in the county the divorce was filed or a contiguous county. the parent can go where ever they want, but the children are staying. that keeps moms, mostly, from moving kids away from dad.

    also, if one is to prove a parent to be an unfit parent, they are then ordered by the court to do a Home Study. in a home study, a third party comes in and thoroughly assesses both households, not just the one being questioned. they have free reign to come into your home, go into any closet, read anything there, go into computer, etc. they’ll interview everyone possible related or not. it’s stressful and not worth it unless there is convicting evidence one parent is unfit – for example, parent is a druggie and leaving small children unattended, without food, etc.

    my knowledge is not current … it’s about 5-6 years old. i knew a woman who tried this w/her ex. i disagreed w/her the whole way through. she didn’t get it (thank God) … then she abandoned her kids and left them with the dad she was trying to declare unfit. she is the only person i intentionally unfriended on fb and refuse to have anything to do with. it takes a lot to get me to that point, but abandoning one’s kids will do it.

    however, all that said … idk how it would have worked in your situation in texas – that’s totally different.

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  13. Yoda says:

    Advice I do give.
    Go to University of Massachusetts not

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  14. Cill says:

    Tarn, re: “emancipated”
    I looked into this for myself when I moved out as a minor since there was the threat of my father trying to get custody if he ever learned I was on my own.
    No kid should ever have to go through that, between hell and a hard place. But you already know what I think about that.

    18 is the age at which people are legally independent of guardianship, and I can’t find any cases of children attempting to have a parent declared unfit for parenting in NZ. I have a vague memory of reading or hearing about a kid who applied to divorce his parents, but can’t find it anywhere.

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  15. Tarnished says:

    Ame and Cill,

    Whew! I’m glad NY is not like that, in that there’s no need for all that “unfit parent” rigmarole and the resulting potential for further troubles or accusations. Geez…

    All I would’ve had to do was show that I was completely financially independent from all my parents. Y’know bring in proof that my name alone was on all my bills, that sort of thing.

    Unlike a number of other states, New York law does not include a procedure for formally emancipating a minor. There is some case law that describes certain situations when a minor would be considered to be emancipated for custody purposes.

    The legal age of majority for custody and visitation in New York State is 18. However, the courts may consider a minor emancipated if he or she is at least 16 years old, is living separate and apart from the parents, is not relying on his or her parents for living expenses such as rent, car expenses, insurance, food, etc., is able to manage his or her financial affairs, must not be in need of or receipt of foster care, the child must be living beyond the custody and control of his or her parents.
    As far as child custody or visitation provisions contained in New York law, once the child is sixteen years old or older, the child’s preferences and desires with respect to the terms of the visitation will be given considerable weight.

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  16. SFC Ton says:

    The Way of Men

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  17. Cill says:

    Here it is: The World Today – Monday, 21 June , 2004 “14-year-old Victorian boy divorces his parents”

    A 14-year-old Victorian boy has just become the youngest Australian to take what to many may seem the extraordinary step of divorcing his family.

    The Melbourne student took a case of irreconcilable differences to the Children’s Court last month, after conflict with his mother which saw him attempt to light a fire in his room and graffiti the walls.

    His mother has said she feels betrayed by the legal system over the case and a parents rights group has called for child divorce cases to be outlawed.

    But a partner in a law firm who has conducted many such cases, says while they can sometimes be abused, irreconcilable differences applications are necessary for the protection of children.

    … It means there can be an application by a child to say that they want the Children’s Court involved, they want the Department of Human Services involved, but they can’t point to any blame that their parents may have.

    For example, usually the State gets involved because the child has been emotionally harmed or a child has been physically abused or sexually abused or hasn’t been provided any medical care.

    Now, they’re all grounds under the Act by which a child… the State would bring that application and the child would then be placed on a court order with a variety of services involved, and that could be… and there may be an order ranging from the child being at home with their parents to the child being placed on a guardianship order.

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  18. Tarnished says:

    No kid should ever have to go through that, between hell and a hard place.

    Surprisingly, once I made up my mind to leave, it was a huge relief. Anticipation and worrying sucks, but finally putting a long thought out plan into action is incredibly satisfying. I already had my own car and phone, a 25 hr a week job, and an offer for cheap room+board at the wildlife ranch if I helped with the animals. I’d had enough money squirreled away from summer jobs/babysitting to afford a down payment on the room by then…So really, it was not bad at all! 😀

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  19. Tarnished says:

    Um. Wow.
    That’s certainly something, Cill. 😦

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  20. Tarnished says:

    This kid’s parents are two decent and otherwise responsible people who have failed to prepare their son for the cold hard reality of the woman’s world.

    One of my questions would be if they are unfortunately just ignorant of the reality of many gender relations today, or if they know but have the mindset of “It’ll never happen to OUR son”?

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  21. Cill says:

    Fuck it, Tarn, no punishment would be good enough for that bastard.

    Anyway, to answer your question, it’s the former (ignorant of the reality of many gender relations today). The parents would be fairly typical of a feminist world. They see girls and women through rose-tinted glasses. Girls are lovely innocents, more human than human. Their son will have had this crap fed into him at school as well, and by the media. When he’s treated badly by one of these sweet creatures, he’s sort of numbed and stupefied, in denial, while hurting like hell.

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    You’re on the spot. It may best be left to your discretion. However, it may be a good idea to start him off by reading Dalrock. Dalrock’d blogroll will lead him to interesting places too.

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  23. Cill says:

    Ton, “The Way of Men” by Jack Donovan
    Thanks Ton. I’ll have a read of that myself.
    http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/books/the-way-of-men/

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda at 3:30am,
    Dhe was awful!

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  25. Cill says:

    Fuzzy, thanks for the Dalrock suggestion.

    “You’re on the spot. It may best be left to your discretion”

    I’ve had a lot of good suggestions here already. They are handy to have precisely because I’m on the spot. I’m a bit too close to the action. I appreciate the objectivity of people far away. Good stuff.

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  26. Cill says:

    Off topic too is welcome here, as always. How could it not be, when the Patriarch himself is the Master of Chaos?

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  27. Ame says:

    fuzziewuzziebear says:
    27 April, 2016 at 4:52 am
    Cill,
    “You’re on the spot. It may best be left to your discretion.”

    with his age and the relationship with his parents, it does get a bit complicated.

    my step son had a few dates with this girl last fall who turned out to be pure evil. the things she did, had the roles been reversed, would have landed any boy in jail in a heartbeat. it was intense helping with him for awhile there. all 3 of our kids know i am blatantly honest with them … i don’t beat around the bush, and i’m not afraid to talk straight about anything – much to their chagrin and relief.

    “One of them is a young bloke who has been dealt some bad shit by a young woman. The kid is really stressed about it.”

    i hate to see a kid get that stressed out about ‘bad shit by a young woman,’ especially if no one is in his court. the kid needs to know he’s not alone. he needs to know what she pulled was wrong, that he is not bad, that girls should never do this stuff. he needs to know he is okay … that he’s not trapped thinking that if he’s to ever have any kind of relationship with girls, that this is how it’s going to be.

    our brains are not fully developed till in our 20’s … so this poor kid is trying to process this shit with a brain that is not fully developed, living in an environment where everywhere he turns he’s told she is right and he is wrong. he has no hope. the poor kid needs hope. he needs to know this is not all there is.

    i would guess, based on this, that it would be in this kid’s best interest if someone took the time to let him know the truth … that the girl is shit, not him. that he has choices. that there’s another way to do things. this can carefully be related to him, i would think, without demeaning his parents. things like, “I know your parents may not see it this way, and that’s neither good nor bad, it’s just that they’ve never had to see things this way … and they don’t need to see it this way. But it doesn’t change the truth that girls these days are/do _____, and you don’t have to play that game.”

    a friend of mine was in the middle of this event with a 14-15 yo boy (i think her husband was his coach). this girl got mad at boy and made his a living hell in and out of school. his parents finally decided to get involved and had an appt with the principal of the school that day. the boy begged not to go to school that morning; he couldn’t handle one more day. parents thinking they were doing the right thing told boy he had to suck it up and go to school. boy went upstairs and blew his brains out instead.

    not saying your kid would do this … but kids need an out. they need to know they have choices. they NEED to know someone is in their court, on their team, has their backs. my 3 kids, and my niece who is now 25, all know that i’ve got their backs. they don’t need me as much as they used to, and they’ll often now say, “It’s okay, Mom, I’ve got this now.” but they know they’re not alone.

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  28. Cill says:

    Ame, this kid’s position is not as dire (yet) as that of the boy you talked about, but it’s bad enough and getting worse. If nothing else I’ll put out the feelers to get an idea of how bad it is.

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  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    I am sorry about your friend who lost her son to suicide. Parents don’t know when they push too far.

    This stuff with boys can start early. While it never went further than the phone, thete was a gal from OkCupid who told me about her son. In third grade he was really sweet on a girl. She told him that another guy did bad things and the kid went full white knight, beating him up. It was lies. The kid will never trust a woman again except his mother.

    Cill,
    Dalrock is a good place to start. He should confine himself to post and ignore comments.

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  30. Spawny Get says:

    Great post. I’m having another busy day today, but I’ll be bouncing ideas around like the jubblies of a porn actress out jogging.

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    Point 3. Being a particularly great one.

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    I listened to most of that Triggering event yesterday (before heading to the pub for tea). The discussion was good, but that shite from the hall was constant. I didn’t see who was doing it on that video. They should have taken that pile of mental issues outside and put her in therapy (or out to pasture). Those mentals really degraded the entire thing.

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  33. Cill says:

    “I’m having another busy day today, but I’ll be bouncing ideas around like the jubblies of a porn actress out jogging.”
    Same here. I won’t be jogging gelatinous jubblies so much as joyously chugging jugs 😉

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    The screaming from off stage is relentless, but the presentation soldiers on. Your call

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    It would have been very unpleasant to sit through all that constant heckling. It may be knee jerk to say this but, it would be fine with me if they did the talk in an empty room and posted it on youtube. No need for a tour. Hecklers would be frustrated.

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  36. BuenaVista says:

    Cill, my suggestions diverge. I think he’s too young to dive into the red pill catechism with Dalrock, Jack Donovan, etc. Frankly, at 25, much less 15, this stuff is profoundly unsettling to young men. I think it’s very likely he just freaks out and withdraws from you.

    However, I had several men take an interest in me when I was that age. For reasons we’ll leave out of this, my home was toxic and everyone knew it. So the chairman of the university music school taught me theory and composition, a chemistry prof taught me sailing, my baseball coach taught me I would be able to leave home soon, my best friend’s dad (a next door neighbor) made sure their house was open. While the problem set was different (obviously, no red pill thinking, and they were all largely immune to the emerging second wave feminism) the outcome was beneficial. People were there to tell me, No, BV, you’re not crazy, someone else is. This got me through the next two years and off to college and NYC was I, at 17.

    If this boy can spend time with you, even work for you or work on projects with you, gradually he will observe your distinct reactions and life choices If he opens up you can provide distilled insight that provides an alternative to what he’s absorbing at home and school. It will teach him he doesn’t have to feel quite so alone and defeated. For example, just some black humor will jog his mindset and perhaps crack the door to knowledge.

    I currently mentor three young men, after a fashion. I am not feeding them any RP theory, just providing some empathy, humor, and support for their reactions to how their lives have gone. In each case the young man is the product of an exploded, pathological single parent household:

    a. bright biologist, 26, mother married five times, alienated his father. Of course, he fell in love with a woman much like his mother, then fell in love with a girl who is on the back side of her SMP curve and is hammering him now for marriage and babies. We talk about female privilege and imperatives, but I leave it at that. I think it relieves some of the pressure he feels to conform to what women demand of him, and small statements such as “Bob, you know, you’re the prize. She’s not the prize.” seem to buck him up and allow him to look at his life as something he controls, he can manage; the idea is that his worth is not defined by what women want from him.

    b. bright, uneducated 25 year-old. Incredible independence for a man his age: he already owns, with no mortgage, a 30 acre homeplace, works for himself, etc. One of his side jobs is to deliver hog semen, and I rode with him the other night (13 hours, midnight to 1 p.m., 625 miles). We never stopped talking and my impression is that a few of my observations ring true to him in an unusual way. He called me yesterday while on his route just to talk some more. He may have married a unicorn this past winter, but still we were able to discuss the difference between his mission and his wife’s inevitable needs.

    c. 20 year-old farmboy who is on parole for a variety of stupid offenses, beginning with opiod addiction by age 17 (his mother used to feed him hydrocodones, and things spiraled downhill from there). His girlfriend delivered an oops pregnancy and he’s having his first baby in July and she’s already put him on the duty sex cycle while planning the next baby. Both his father and I seem to be saying, “Hey, bud, you don’t need to marry your mother.” He invited me to play on his softball team this summer, though I’m older than his dad, and invited me to watch him bull-ride (rodeo stuff) last week.

    In all cases, I try to provide RP context and color, zero RP ideology per se.

    Two years ago I wrote my son#1 a long letter that was probably outspoken about RP ideas — and he didn’t speak to me for six months, because the information implicitly challenges how his mother and sister have structured their relationships with him. So with these three guys I’m trying to avoid a “too much, too hard, too fast” firehose-of-truth” scenario.

    Aside from being taught by all and sundry that masculinity is toxic, boys today are largely devoid of heroic examples. And your personal example I would describe as heroic. Such an example could be his life preserver. He won’t be able to articulate this for a few years, I bet, but he will internalize and emulate your example.

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  37. SFC Ton says:

    Its a good book Cill because of its short and simple message.

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  38. SFC Ton says:

    I respectfully disagree with the most esteemed BV and diverge from the Honorable Gentlemen in that the way I reckon things is 15 year old boys should be men in all but name. Problem is the boy has been coddled instead of forged

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  39. BuenaVista says:

    To Our Right Honorable Redneck: This boy is in school and is the product of a blue pill household — so in Ton years he’s about 11 or 12.

    I nearly had a nervous breakdown taking the red pill at 50.

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  40. Liz says:

    I haven’t read half of the posts above yet, but I am of the opinion that young people learn via example more than lecture. He can learn (organically), by watching you Cill. I’m sure you are already providing a very good example. Just spend time with him. I think BV is right on above.

    “One of them is a young bloke who has been dealt some bad shit by a young woman. The kid is really stressed about it. His parents are both blue pill and are not dealing with the problem the way it needs to be dealt with. Someone needs to give the kid some overdue red pill education. I wouldn’t usually interfere outside of my family, but I do like this kid a lot and he looks up to me. He deserves a better break than he’s getting.”

    I can’t offer advice without knowing the context and details, so I can’t really make a judgement call based on the above. It does not sound good though, Cill. 😦

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  41. SFC Ton says:

    To Our Right Honorable Redneck:

    LOL

    but you survived and grew stronger. The longer such intell is withheld, the harder it will be for the boy to become a man

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  42. SFC Ton says:

    Personally I think women should withhold their opinion on Cill’s quandary, no matter how adorable or special they are

    If women had good advice on creating men feminism would be a train wreck

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  43. BuenaVista says:

    Agreed. But here’s a situation, with two responses to consider.

    Assume a boy has oneitis for a girl, who done him wrong. Say they flirted and made out a bit, then quickly transitioned to nudie selfies. And then she dumped him and showed all her girlfriends pics of his boner. I think we can agree that this is plausible, or some other form of attempted adolescent humiliation is plausible. After all, chicks are still doing this at 40.

    a. Response one:

    “Read this book. You’ll find that your oneitis fixation is practicing behavior you will encounter the rest of your life. It’s the nature of women to desire and capriciously reject a man, Stepford Wife fashion, once she realizes “she can do better.” In The Rational Male, we learn what hypergamy is, why it is organic to the female sex, and that at no time in your life will you ever be safe from its ravages. Feel better now? (Why do you feel like killing yourself?)”

    b. Response two:

    “Come over after school and help me repair my backhoe, eh? Fucking bitches. We can strategize. Perhaps you need to bang her best friend. Or, as a friend of mine said, nothing kills the pain like screwing 100 more. Failing that, have you ever been drunk? I’ll get you home in one piece tomorrow. Oh, and never, never again send a selfie to a chick with your face in it.”

    I would say both responses deliver intel, but one is more actionable.

    Meanwhile, you can bet said blue pill boy has been told by his mother, “I think this is an opportunity to show your ex-girlfriend how much you respect her, and who knows, stranger things have happened than her coming back to you after she realizes how deep down inside you are a really great guy. Here, let me hug you.”

    ***

    A literary … anecdote:

    F. Scott Fitzgerald, whose letters I’ve been reading — and man, was he a painfully whiny asshole, they’re almost impossible to read, once told Hemingway that his wife Zelda found his package too small for ball.

    So Hemingway took him into the lavatory and said, “Well, let’s see. Whip it out.”

    “Nope,” Hemingway says he observed. “You’ve got no deficiency in the manhood department.”

    Fitzgerald was still complaining to Max Perkins years later about this episode. He couldn’t handle the truth: he was married to a psychotic, demeaning, and cruel wife (he was; she was institutionalized). But confronting head-on Scott’s blue pill gaslit existence nearly killed him, apparently. Far better outcome if EH had just sent one of his girlfriends over to screw Scott, saying, “Do me a favor and tell him he’s hung like a horse and not to bang her too hard.”

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  44. Liz says:

    “Personally I think women should withhold their opinion on Cill’s quandary, no matter how adorable or special they are

    If women had good advice on creating men feminism would be a train wreck”

    Okay, point taken.
    But Cill didn’t ask for only men to respond so I thought he was asking for everyone’s opinion.

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  45. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    I nearly had a nervous breakdown taking the red pill at 50.

    To our Esteemed Guy With Things Wot Does Stuff: I firmly believe one reason the Red Pill is so traumatic for men is they’ve spent decades of their lives trying to believe the lies. While there may be other reasons not to introduce young men to the Red Pill, the fact that it’s difficult for older men to swallow shouldn’t be one of them.

    The question that I’d be asking is whether he’s mature enough to disagree with his guardian(s) but hold his tongue until he’s out on his own.

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  46. BuenaVista says:

    Regarding our subject youth, I read a pretty good interview with Camille Paglia yesterday, preparatory to another date with Professor Friendly (my friend who is attempting to leave the heterosexual closet while divorcing her spouse, who recently had her breasts surgically removed). Paglia, of course, is openly gay, but she speaks with fluency and admiration about red-lined masculinity: blue collar dudes, NASCAR dudes, NFL football before it became a passing game and defense and violence were more central. I’m curious if Prof. Friendly’s brain explodes if she reads a paen to unrepentant masculinity by a lesbian member of the intelligentsia. All in the name of science, of course, and I will update the syllabus soon.

    Anyway, she says something very, very insightful: she lambastes the incoherent “rape culture” meme on campus, and blames the feminist snowflakes for creating it, and creating a college population of quivering, abject defective girls with penises.

    Paraphrase: “They have to emasculate the boys, rendering them weak and useless — because that way the girls can themselves be weak without penalty.”

    This is what I see in the college library this morning, and every morning: turtling, frightened boys who panic if I speak up and say something in a voice just slightly above 20 dB. I have asked Prof. Friendly if she sees the same thing, and she says, “Oh, sure. I make them all cry at some point. It doesn’t take much.”

    Paglia interview:

    View story at Medium.com

    Footnote:

    On the academic research showing post-surgical transgenders’ cross-corellation with severe psychopathologies:

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/21/drop-the-t-from-lgbt/

    Attribution:

    It was CP who coined the term “gaslit” conditioning to reflect what blue pill men have experienced for decades, once they begin the RP transition. I find it extremely descriptive, and promise to continue to steal it regularly.

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  47. SFC Ton says:

    lol this is Spawany’s space not mine. throwing my $.02 and not targeting you Liz

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  48. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Thanks, BV. It’s been a while, but I think I heard about gas lighting from Deti, originally. I steal from the best.

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  49. Yoda says:

    The deceptively titled Campus Accountability and Safety Act would create new resources on campus for accusers, ensure minimum training standards for campus personnel who deal with accusations, require a memorandum of understanding with law enforcement, require schools to survey students annually about their experiences with sexual violence and create harsher penalties for schools that don’t comply.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/terrible-awful-campus-sex-assault-bill-is-back/article/2589589

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  50. Yoda says:

    An emergency he did have,


    Twenty-year-old Amir A., who is from Iraq and married with a child of his own, claimed that was a “sexual emergency” when he attacked the schoolboy last December at the Theresienbad in Vienna’s Meidling area.

    The young boy was swimming at the pool by himself and had befriended a 15-year-old boy, who was with the Iraqi man. When the youngster went off to the showers after his swim the 20-year-old followed him and pushed the boy into a toilet cubicle, where he assaulted him.

    http://www.thelocal.at/20160427/asylum-seeker-confesses-in-court-to-raping-boy-at-vienna-pool

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  51. Dragonfly says:

    This is random but since you’re at this post now, BV, was just going to let you know those women you mentioned don’t even try to bother commenting on my blog anymore.

    BUT with that said (evil laugh), I’ve now become a target of a much larger group of women, some Christian but I think most probably identify with atheist or “nons” (none of the above). I haven’t and won’t read any of their criticism, but I’ve read lots of their stuff before on 4 women I know all godly and over 40 where they wrote just the most horrible stuff about them constantly.

    I was actually amused when I saw that they found me (I think last night judging by my stats), and how crazy that it’s when I’m in the middle of a series on the “virtuous wife!” lol… But it actually makes me think this means my blog is “successful.” The four other women that I’ve seen be attacked by these people, are public figures and semi-famous, so to be critiqued alongside them is actually kind of an honor. 🙂

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  52. SFC Ton says:

    DF, you shot your credibility to hell and back over at Blooms. I suspect you are wasting your time talking to BV

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  53. Dragonfly says:

    That’s fine, Ton.

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  54. SFC Ton says:

    yea team woman has to stand together even when its standing by an obvious troll

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  55. Tarnished says:

    Anyway, to answer your question, it’s the former (ignorant of the reality of many gender relations today). The parents would be fairly typical of a feminist world.

    Fair enough. It’s a similar story for many incel men. Their parents assume the dating world works the same as it did for them in years past. Of course, we know it does not.

    They see girls and women through rose-tinted glasses. Girls are lovely innocents, more human than human.

    Ugh. I absolutely loathe pedestalization of women.

    Their son will have had this crap fed into him at school as well, and by the media.

    Too true. Which is why it’s so important for him to be gently fed different material. I personally wouldn’t start with Rollo or Dalrock…they get rather hardcore at times, and it could potentially be very off-putting to the boy. We/you want to get him to see truths, not run scared from them. It’d likely work better to treat him as a fish being introduced to a new aquarium. Slow acclimation.

    When he’s treated badly by one of these sweet creatures, he’s sort of numbed and stupefied, in denial, while hurting like hell.

    “When”? I’m surprised he hasn’t yet been. 15 is the beginning of the dating age for many kids. I hope he has not gotten hurt at this time…but you’d know better than I.

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  56. Cill says:

    “Problem is the boy has been coddled instead of forged”. True, but I’m going to run with BV’s suggestions with this one, Ton. The kid’s dad feels a bit intimidated by me, I think, and if I take my usual direct approach I could put myself on the outer.

    I’ll see if I can arrange for the kid to spend some time here. A week would be good. It would be good for me too, if the truth be known. Financially, I’m in a position where I don’t have to work any more, and I’m not sure it’s a good thing in my case.

    If I can send him back to his parents a lot more positive than he was, I’ll invite him again later. He’s overdue for the red pill.

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  57. Cill says:

    “The Way of Men” will be waiting for him second visit. I will have read it myself by then.

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  58. Cill says:

    I’ll invite the kid for a couple of days, then I’ll take the 3 of them out for a day cruise. When they see how positive he is, I’ll drop the hint that he’s welcome to stay a few more days. Shit I can be a crafty bastard. Nothing works like a good day’s fishing on a boat.

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  59. Cill says:

    And a bit of the Cill IRL charm of course.

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  60. Ame says:

    Cill –
    “I’ll see if I can arrange for the kid to spend some time here. A week would be good.”

    this is … priceless. what you’re willing to give him is immeasurable. kids need time invested in them. it’s why my step son would say, “Please stop being nice to me; you’re nicer to me than my mother.” his mother wouldn’t spend time with him. all i did was spend time with him, listen to him. he didn’t know a mother could do that.

    and kids don’t open up to another without time. i know there’s this huge ‘quality over quantity’ … but in my experience, quantity leads to quality. if i want my kids to tell me what’s going on, i have to hang with them for a good while before they start talking.

    i also believe it’s healthy and good for kids to have adults other than their parents with whom they spend time and admire. they need balance and perspective, and we parents often cannot give them that b/c we see everything about them rather than what they present. for example, my oldest will tell you that i worry about her too much. and i do … much more than i worry about my youngest. the reason? she had some health things that were very hard on me when she was born and in her first year and then a few scattered over the years. they were hard on her, too, but i’m the one who cared for her through those, who made the medical decisions, etc. so when i ‘see’ her, i see all of her. all of this. while someone else will just see what’s really going on. when i lived closer to my bff, she would often point these things out to me. i needed that perspective. my daughter needed it … now my daughter just points it out to me herself 🙂

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  61. For what it’s worth Cill, I find telling stories about other people in a similar situation to illustrate a red pill concept w/o actually giving direct red pill advice works really well. It slips right under their radar but the seed is planted! 🙂

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  62. Choicy says:

    “Professor Friendly (my friend who is attempting to leave the heterosexual closet while divorcing her spouse, who recently had her breasts surgically removed).”

    BV I’d stay clear of that mess mate. It’s a soap opera of the future just round the bend. Next thing the daffy dill will get her tits implanted back in again. Tell me mate, why would any joker on God’s good Earth want to wrap his laughing gear around a pair of tits like that? My advice is forget them mate before you get sucked in by that weird shit.

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  63. Choicy says:

    I’m off to the sack to get some sleep. Fair dinkum mate, hit that shit to the curb or you will lose your marbles mate.

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  64. Cill says:

    It’s not like you to offer unsolicited advice, Choicy.

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  65. BuenaVista says:

    I live in the American outback, Choicy. And I get bored easily.

    Also, you never know what can make it’s way into a novel.

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  66. Cill says:

    i’m chuckling to myself here. If I know Choicy, he went to sleep thinking, There’s enough woman shit already without that weird shit on top

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  67. Spawny Get says:

    I think that BV’s chum has exceeded the standard relentless cnutary of ordinary femeroids that I find such a mental turn off. She’s bizarre enough to become a legitimate object of scientific examination and amusement.

    Plus the idea of a novel is most delightful.

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  68. Spawny Get says:

    So, while I would normally agree with Choicy, I think that BV is right in this specific case.

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  69. Liz says:

    On that note, I’ll supply a link to Diplomad’s recent cri de coeur entitled,
    “The Triumph of Mental Illness”

    http://www.thediplomad.com/2016/04/the-triumph-of-mental-illness.html

    “I think that the progressives will have to define their terms a little better since, of course, it is they who have made “crazy” into “normal.”

    I was struck, in particular, by reading a weird little news account in which,
    A transgender former banker claims to be the first and only person to have both ears cosmetically removed as part of her ongoing quest to become a ‘dragon’.
    Born Richard Hernandez in Maricopa County, Arizona, the 55-year-old has undergone a number of painful procedures over the past few years including nose modification, tooth extraction and eye colouring.
    She also has a forked tongue and a full-face tattoo as part of her transformation into a ‘mythical beast’.
    The article runs some disturbing pictures of what this “woman” has done to “herself.” My first thought was that the doctor(s) who aided this “woman” by amputating “her” ears and making other bizarre modifications to “her” face should, at a minimum, have his/her/their/its medical license(s) revoked, and even go to prison. The problem with that argument, naturally, is that the way things are now, a doctor refusing to do as asked might get labelled “racist,” “homophobic,” “transgenderist,” etc., and, likely as not, suffer a federal civil rights investigation, prosecution, and go to the slammer.

    This sorry story encapsulates so much of what has gone wrong in Western civilization that it is hard to know where to begin. One thing this dragon tale does tell us, however, and in unequivocal terms, is that we no longer, apparently, have the right or ability to label somebody as “crazy.”

    Well, I exaggerate.

    It seems, getting back to my point at the outset, that progressives have reserved for themselves the right to determine that. Just as they redefine and refine words to suit and please their agenda of destruction, it seems they will decide which of us deserve to be labelled nuts and worthy of the special attentions of the state. Just as we see Democrats contemplating legal action against “climate change deniers,” we can easily see a time when wanting to own a gun or just disagreeing with the ruling orthodoxy will be labelled a criminal or mental disturbance. We already have bakers and pizza store owners who have refused to cater a gay wedding having their businesses targeted and destroyed, why not go one step further and declare them insane? Will my daughter’s refusal to use all-gender restrooms get her expelled from school and a trip to the loony bin? You can all come up with many more examples demonstrating the death of what we once called “common sense.”

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  70. Spawny Get says:

    As the battle heats up between the presumptive nominees for President, the word-wars have begun. Following Hillary’s “love Trump’s hate” breaking-barriers speech last night, a seemingly calmer, friendlier Trump went after Hillary exclaiming that “the only thing she’s got going is the woman’s card…and the beautiful thing is that women don’t like her.” Trump added that he’ll “do far more for women than Hillary Clinton will do,” and that “if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don’t think she’d get 5 percent of the vote.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-27/trump-hillary-if-she-were-man-she-wouldnt-get-5

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  71. Cill says:

    Well I seem to remember Choicy urging BV to “take one for the team” by porking the prof, so I’m guessing he had a bad day.

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  72. Liz says:

    “Well I seem to remember Choicy urging BV to “take one for the team” by porking the prof, so I’m guessing he had a bad day.”

    LOL That’s right he did! I’d forgotten.
    (of course, I liked it and started the chant…raising the tone, as is my custom)
    😀

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  73. Liz says:

    Starts the chant again…”Do it! Do it!”
    (slaps fingers and puts on mittens)

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  74. SFC Ton says:

    Talking will not solve any Western nations’ invasion…. I mean immigration problems

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  75. Cill says:

    99% of the time Choicy has only one mood, which is half way between middling and good. If one of his dogs or horses is lost or killed he can get a bit depressed. I’ll give him a call later.

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  76. thedeti says:

    To my esteemed brethren, Greetings:

    To assist Cill with his young charge, how to help him address the “Bad Shit” the girl did. The boy is in need of a Red Pill. How best to dispense it and help him ingest it.

    I suspect books won’t help him much since mom and dad are likely to find them. But if he were to get a book, Donovan’s “The Way of Men”, suggested by Ton, is a good one.

    BV’s approach might be best for this kid. Spend time with him. Take him under wing, and teach him what you know.

    IF you actually can talk to boys about red pill stuff in raw, undiluted form, it’s best to start with the very basics, to help him detox and ingest simultaneously. Here’s where I would start:

    –men and women are different

    –men are attracted to hot, cute, young, tight girls who are nice and approachable

    –women are attracted to good looks in men first, so get into shape

    –your looks are important, no matter what girls tell you

    –after good looks, women like confidence and dominance (or “prestige”, if you must)

    –women are all about feelings and emotions; men less so

    –don’t let a girl see all your emotions

    –don’t talk too much. Talk less, show more

    –If a girl likes you and she is giving you the green light, you step on the gas and you go for it

    –IOIs and what they look like; or how to tell if a girl is into you

    And, Cautiously — how have you been? I didn’t invent gaslighting but I did a post on that at the old, now gone Just Four Guys site. You’re correct that guys have a hard time letting go because they believed the lies. That’s one of the biggest hurdles most men have — “this one is different. Yeah, girls can be bitches, but not THIS one. Not MINE.” “This time is different. The rules don’t apply to THIS girl or to THIS Situation.”

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  77. thedeti says:

    Another thing I might start doing is inculcating him in Red Pill shit about life.

    –Everybody lies.

    –Nobody gives a shit about your feelings.

    –Girls’ value is in what they are. Girls have value because they’re girls. You are a boy and therefore your value is in what you DO, what you create, build, make, and offer. This is not fair. You’ll get over it. I told you men and women are different.

    –Girls will like you/try to use you based on what you do, what you offer to them. Who you are matters much less to them.

    –People do not give a shit about who you are. They give a shit about what you do, and what you can do for them.

    –Life is not fair.

    –bad shit will happen to you. You’ll get over it. If you cannot get over it, you need to find a way to get over it.

    –You have a mission in life. You need to find it before you marry and have children. (Being a husband and father is not a life mission for a man.)

    –Marriage is a bad deal for men now. If you choose to marry, understand what you’re getting yourself into.

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  78. thedeti says:

    Good to see you, Brother Ton

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  79. Ame says:

    BV –
    “Also, you never know what can make it’s way into a novel.”

    !!! I’ll buy a copy!

    just started reading Soldier – forget who recommended it on here.

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  80. Cill says:

    thedeti, thanks. It’s good to have things spelled out by someone well-versed in the subject. I know what the red pill is in the practical sense, but I’ve never mentally taken it to pieces and examined its constituent parts. In the past I helped young men by “doing” rather than talking. With this kid, doing and talking will both be required, so I’ll print off your comments and keeping them out of sight but handy for quick reference.

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  81. Liz says:

    “99% of the time Choicy has only one mood, which is half way between middling and good. If one of his dogs or horses is lost or killed he can get a bit depressed. I’ll give him a call later.”

    Hope everything is okay. 😦

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  82. thedeti says:

    Brother Cill: That’s really just very basic stuff, things to get him started. I’m glad you believe it will help. Give it to him in small bites and show him how it plays out. See if you can find real world examples from your own life or from his own life, and explain them using those examples.

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  83. Cill says:

    I’m forming a plan. It might need some fining up, but at this stage I’m thinking along the following lines.

    I’ll invite the kid here for day 1, a night, and day 2. On day 1 we’ll do some fishing off the rocks, and have some fun in the power boat. I’ve yet to meet a young bloke who doesn’t respond positively to 1050 h.p. at full throttle. We’ll go spotlighting (shooting) opossums at night. Next day he can wake to the lonesome beauty of this place. I’ll show him my property and how it works. It should take his mind off negative stuff. With his permission I’ll invite his parents to go out sailing the next day (day 3).

    I’ll take them out sight-seeing and fishing and snorkeling. When everyone is relaxed and enjoying themselves I’ll suggest that the kid could stay for 4 more days. I’m fairly sure they’ll be confident in my hospitality, and accept the offer.

    After dropping the parents off I’ll take the kid home and start the red pill education, interspersed with a lot of work around the farm. I know the kid, and the help he gives me will be valuable, so I’ll pay him for the work. I will make use of most of the suggestions you’ve all kindly made.

    No alcohol.

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  84. Cill says:

    thedeti, Thanks mate. I will.

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  85. SFC Ton says:

    Thanks Deti. You too Brother

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  86. Cill says:

    You there Choicy? You should listen to Titties and Beer, mate.

    I rang Choicy a minute ago and he tells me he lost a dog. Found bits of his skin floating on a water hole. Probably a saltie but there were dingo tracks around as well. The song would cheer him up.

    In my case it would be Titties and a Shot. That video is the best laugh I’ve had for a while, Ton.

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  87. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    From watching that Swedish video, they are trying to bring in hundreds of thousands of migrants in the middle of a housing shortage. No wonder the locals are furious. At any time I was expecting them to advise young native Swedes to move to Minnesota.

    Cill,
    If you’re woried about Choicy, I am worried. For me, getting lost on youtube in music videos helps. You never know where you will end up.
    I think that Molly liked this one.

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  88. SFC Ton says:

    Awesome Cill. Both are red pill in their fashion. Guess you’d want to church them up some for the boy but among all the shit to unpack is the notion men are evil because we like boobs and booze

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  89. Choicy says:

    Titties and Fosters for this digger or Titties and “Best Extra Stout” Hahaha! (Best Extra Stout is a brand of Aussie beer mates). I think I might fly the Cessna into town this arvo and wrap the old laughing gear around some titties and a can of Fosters mates.

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  90. Cill says:

    Translation of Choicy-speak: “wrap the old laughing gear around” means wrap your lips around.

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Choicy,
    I am sorry. It is hard to lose a good animal. You can’t say anything bad about them.

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  92. Cill says:

    Now the PM of NZ John Key is getting in on the bash Trump act. “Prime Minister John Key has taken a swipe at US presidential candidate Donald Trump, telling American business leaders that “you can’t build a wall around the country“.

    Key should mind his own damn business. If Trump did become President I bet Key would back off quick smart.

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  93. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    Whole it is bad form, it is not on the same order as Obama going to Windsor Castle to twist the arm of the Queen.
    The thought just occurred to me that things could be much worse. What if Teddy Roosevelt were running?

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  94. Choicy says:

    I nominate molly for Trump’s VP mate.

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  95. Cill says:

    No not molly, they need a Vice P who will blow Donald’s trumpet.

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  96. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Choicy,
    I appreciate your sentiments but, Molly’s not a native born American, so she can’t succeed as President. It is the only position in American government, that I am aware of, that has that requirement.

    Cill,
    That is Trump’s wife’s job. If she fails and he is elected, what does that say for hypergamy? How much more status can he gain?

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  97. molly says:

    I wish I could be a VP for long enough to drop a vanilla icecream on Obama’s head and a chocolate icecream on Hilary’s head. heh heh

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  98. molly says:

    Fuzzie have some Marmite, you WILL like it!

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  99. molly says:

    Beautiful Christchurch Marmite. Yum!

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  100. molly says:

    Tarn would luv it! 😀

    I’m having my parents for dinner tonight. Must go.

    Cheers!

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  101. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! Have several burritos!
    Thank you for the Marmite. From what I have read, it must be the most nutritious stuff ever invented. The question is, can I stand the taste?
    It always makes me happy to see your avatar!

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  102. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Are your parents getting Marmite sandwiches?

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  103. molly says:

    Fuzzie you are like Canute who was steady in his ways. You prefer your tried and true food that you know, eh.

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  104. molly says:

    Must fly. Bye Fuzzie!

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  105. Cill says:

    Whirlwind visit by wee molly there.

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  106. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I got all the way through the hour and a half talk with Milo, CHS, and Crowder. While they took an incredible amout of heckling, they got through it and I don’t think that they tossed anyone out. That is good news.

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  107. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Mmmmm…..burger.
    Thank you, Molly!

    Cill, better a whirlwind visit from Molly than not at all.

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  108. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Paul Joseph Watson thinks that he has found a successor to Big Red.

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  109. Cill says:

    She does resemble Roz. Same head shape. It’s as we would expect from such a limited creature – wide at the mouth and narrow at the brow.

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  110. Cill says:

    These fembots are providing an important legacy for future generations. Theirs is the image of feminism that will be carried forward. I can’t think of anything more apt.

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  111. Spawny Get says:

    Don’t watch just before bed

    It seems that your only chance to escape is to wrap yourself in lettuce and ruuuuuun

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  112. Spawny Get says:

    Interesting part at around 11:00 where JtO says that false rape accusations are now becoming an issue to be confronted in India. Why? Because they’re being made against rich, powerful and famous people now.

    Fuck the little people, to be accused is to be guilty, as it should be – we’re progressive around here dontchaknow? But rich, famous or powerful? That shit needs to be shut down right quick.

    An interesting echo of the Salem Witch Trials. Only when members of the elite got roped in to the young empowered female psychos with their first taste of power’s evil fantasies, was any interest taken. When shit got real for them nobs, shit got shut down.

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  113. Tarnished says:

    Not surprising, Spawny.
    It’s how it’s always been.

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  114. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I used to follow a blog listed on manosphere.com before it shut down. It seems that while feminism got a later start there, it is far more vicious. To begin with, an upset wife can get her whole husband’s family incarcerated by false accusation with the dowry laws. Whe should be watching this.

    About the Salem Witch Trials, there is a possibility that rotten rye could have been at the bottom of it. When rye rots, it produces an hallucinogen.

    This new one is much worse than Big Red. At least she had some value for being slightly humorous.

    Big Red is definitely more articulate.

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  115. SFC Ton says:

    Regarding that one video; spit on the Ton and the Ton will kill you. Not punch you in the face but end your fucking life

    Plus when a SJW spits on someone it should be considered a lethal threat as you know that cocksucker has the HIV

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  116. SFC Ton says:

    Nothing wrong with that Laci Green chick that a hard dick can’t solve

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  117. Liz says:

    “Trump is on it

    http://time.com/4309786/read-donald-trumps-america-first-foreign-policy-speech/

    Good speech.
    It reminds me a lot of Sinek’s conceptualization of how the best leaders inspire action (they “start with why”).
    Unfortunately, I think if (when) it comes down to Hillary versus Trump they’ll be busing in Trump haters to the polls from all ends of the earth (they’ll have folks handing out water jugs and fake IDs at the border).

    The Diplomad did a writeup on it:
    http://www.thediplomad.com/2016/04/trumps-foreign-policy-address-not-bad.html

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  118. Liz says:

    Apparently there are a number of Syrian squatters in the Seoul airport at present.
    One of the responses on a military blog (to the quote, “There is no way we are going to return to our country”) was very astute.

    “There is no way we are going to return to our country”
    Ho ho ho… I bet I can find a way.
    A runny honey enema followed by sodomy with an open-ended tube full of fire ants… just off the top of my head.
    One can feel sorry for refugees… but just because they fucked up their country with apathy, Islam, and self-destructive thinking doesn’t give them any special right to go fuck up somewhere else as they cling to the religion and culture which brought their problems about in the first place.

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  119. Yoda says:

    Wonder how Moe would handle the “new fresh face of feminism” I do

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  120. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Somebody has a very vivid imagination. Yikes!

    Yoda,
    I don’t think Moe would want any part of her.

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  121. It’s national take your child to work day. Formerly take your daughter to work day. Then take your daughter and son to work day. Then now just take your child to work day.

    I work from home but my oldest wanted to go to work with me anyhow. Today’s project just happens to be part of a major re landscaping, installing a sprinkler system. Random! But my “work” is fairly eclectic!

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  122. SFC Ton says:

    LOL every day is take the Ton Spawns to work day. I put my mini kingdom together to leave to them when I’m called home.

    I’m all manners of worthless sonofabitch but I do right by mine

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  123. Cill says:

    Trump’s foreign policy speech expresses my concerns. I should keep it as a summary of my own thoughts on Obama’s woeful performance.

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  124. Moehau Man says:

    Yoda Wonder how Moe would handle the “new fresh face of feminism” I do

    Yes well, she could be the vocalist my hard rock band “The Banging Boners” have been looking for.

    [Note from Cill: refer Moe’s Avatar “View Complete Profile”]

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  125. Cill says:

    Liz on migrants just because they fucked up their country with apathy, Islam, and self-destructive thinking doesn’t give them any special right to go fuck up somewhere else as they cling to the religion and culture which brought their problems about in the first place
    Yep.

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  126. Cill says:

    Liz I think if (when) it comes down to Hillary versus Trump they’ll be busing in Trump haters to the polls from all ends of the earth (they’ll have folks handing out water jugs and fake IDs at the border)

    In the U.K. the import of left-voting aliens worked for Bliar Blair. It’s a way to keep power-crazed loony lefties in power. The miserable fuckers will destroy a culture, a country, a civilization, enlightenment itself, in order to keep their wretched arses in power.

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  127. Liz says:

    It’s working for our left too. From the Diplomad:

    “Words are the ammunition of discussion and debate, and if one side is allowed to select the ammunition, well, the ensuing discussions and debates are to be expectedly one-sided.

    Just as the bullets are altered so we also find repeatedly that the announced target of progressive wrath is not the ultimate target. The target is altered. The simplest example of this is the battle over requiring identification at the voting booth. We heard all sorts of lachrymose tales of how such a requirement suppressed black votes. It seems, in progressive world, that black Americans are simple poor rural folk who live tens if not hundreds of miles from any place where they might get an id card of any sort. They, in addition, are just too stupid to get these cards. Requiring id, therefore, means not letting black people vote!

    This, of course, is utter rubbish; the real purpose behind doing away with voter id requirements comes across our southern border every day. It is to allow aliens to vote. These aliens will be made wards of the state and of the progressive controlled electoral machines.

    As blacks decline in demographic importance as voters, they must be replaced. What better than millions of bitterly poor people from Mexico and Central America? These people will not only clog the voter rolls, but keep progressive social workers employed, progressive community organizers active, and fill the schools with students–benefitting the progressive education industry which will demand ever increasing amounts of money to handle the poor poor folks.”

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  128. Choicy says:

    Cillo you make a strong statement which I heartily agree with mate. As you kiwis would say in your own vernacular “Good on ya mate”.

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  129. Cill says:

    Yep again. You’re right on the money there, Liz.

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  130. Choicy says:

    What’s the time over the ditch there Cillo, are you working the night shift on the blog as per usual mate. 😉

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  131. Choicy says:

    Shit I hate the wordpress wink smiley, it looks like a blow job.

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  132. Yoda says:


    Yes well, she could be the vocalist my hard rock band “The Banging Boners” have been looking for.

    “Hard Rock” the instruments made of they are?
    Wear codpieces each member does?
    Include her this will?

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  133. Liz says:

    “Shit I hate the wordpress wink smiley, it looks like a blow job.
    A facial…”

    It does! It’s like the emoticon got some in the eye and is kind of holding it’s breath to keep it out of the nose.

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  134. Liz says:

    I’m just, er…guessing…

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  135. Yoda says:

    A big surprise for some people this is,

    The news hit hard on the University of Washington campus. The students can’t believe it. I can’t believe it. Can you believe it?

    Cheerleaders, it turns out, are expected to have a certain look.

    “U-Dub” students (hey, that’s just one letter away from U Dumb!) were unloading on social media, crying to counselors and fleeing to safe spaces after the cheer team posted an infographic describing the look to strive for if you’re planning to try out for the squad. (In the routinely craven manner of all universities, the UW spirit program ordered the graphic removed and called in nine tons of smelling salts for those affected.)

    I repeat: The graphic was aimed only at young women seeking to be cheerleaders. Pasty-faced Womyn’s Struggles majors attending rallies in shapeless sweatshirts, and black-clad Emily Dickinson fans emoting agonized coffeehouse verse were not the target audience. It takes all kinds to make up a student body: dimpled, flirty blond girls with Southern accents and sour, achy ones who cut themselves among them.

    “I can’t believe this is real,” Jazmine Perez, the student government’s director of programming told the Seattle Times. “One of the first things that comes to mind is objectification and idealization of Western beauty,” she harrumphed.

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/27/relax-its-ok-for-cheerleaders-to-look-hot/

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  136. Choicy says:

    Liz I don’t think you’re guessing mate. The smiley got one smack in the eye mate. Hahaha!
    I hate that thing.

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  137. Yoda says:

    The brave new future of cheerleaders this is

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  138. Liz says:

    It’s a well known beauty treatment! Highfalutin ladies go to the high end boutiques to get bull semen facials. I envision them lying there with the bull semen mask, reevaluating their life choices…
    And, well, I’m cheap…and it’s…here. And I’m sure people semen is the way God intended!
    It’s give a little tongue emoticon for silliness right now but that one is even worse than the new wink emoticon. I’ll invent my own.
    This is my emoticon, with a poodle-do (or perhaps Jerry Curl) on top:

    @:-P

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  139. Moehau Man says:

    Y’know, I know a few Moehau Man sheilas who’d make good cheerleaders, as long as the foreign fans don’t mind a bare-chested look. Mind you, the chest hairs tend to lend some modesty to the occasion.

    They could rub Mrs Moehau Man (my gourmet old mum)’s fresh-made pikelets on their skin and chant “Tup me” on the pitch, and 60,000 Eden Park rugby fans would be killed in the rush.

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  140. Cill says:

    We call it a “Kiss Curl” down under, Liz 😉

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  141. Spawny Get says:

    Seems relevant

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  142. thedeti says:

    Brother Cill:

    I just thought of something else you might want to dispense to your young charge. This is a pretty important and fundamental thing a lot of boys need to know right off the bat.

    “Don’t take advice from women about anything. Not about girls, or sex, or marriage, or work, or life.”

    We all know why, too. Women are not men, have not lived as men, don’t share the same experiences as men, aren’t motivated by the same things as men, and don’t suffer the same consequences as men.

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  143. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Definitely good advice, Deti. And remind him that his mother is a woman.

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  144. Cill says:

    Deti. You’re right. A big part of his problem is the advice he has received from women. When it comes to his dad, it’s not so much bad advice as missing advice.

    I’ll see what I can do during days 4 through 7 of my plan per my comment at 12:43 am. Four days doesn’t give me much time. If I can sow the seeds, that’s the best I can hope for.

    Thanks mate.

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  145. Cill says:

    When I said 4 days doesn’t give me much time, I meant not much time to reverse his entire young life of blue pill indoctrination to date.

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  146. Spawny Get says:

    “And remind him that his mother is a woman.”

    These days one should not presuppose the gender identity of a being / system just by the mere circumstantial ‘evidence’ that that being / system gave birth to a human with a penis.

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  147. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    What can I say, Spawny? I’m an unreformed troglodyte that way. Why bother getting old if you can’t stand out on the lawn in your skivvies making suggestive gestures to the young’uns?

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  148. Yoda says:

    Gender matters not.
    Except when it does
    So say SJWs they do

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  149. Cill says:

    These days one should not presuppose the gender identity of a being / system just by the mere circumstantial ‘evidence’ that that being / system gave birth to a human with a penis.

    Ah BUT…

    “being / system” would itself be an example of an oppressive Patriarchal presumption.

    “I think, therefore I am” is the motherfucker of all Patriarchal presuppositions.

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  150. Moehau Man says:

    The day I don’t know a sheila when I see one is the day I hang up me Kauri Club and hang me codpieces out to dry. “In the real world of the rugged Coromandel”, Mrs Moehau Man (my knowledgeable old mum) says, “There are but the fuckor and the fuckee, and all else is irrelevant.”

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  151. Spawny Get says:

    ‘unreformed troglodyte’

    second offence. ‘Shitlord’ is, last I heard, the correct term.

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  152. Spawny Get says:

    ““I think, therefore I am” is the motherfucker of all presuppositions.”

    Another Shitlord. ‘I feelz, therefore you’re wrong’

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  153. Moehau Man says:

    ‘I feelz, therefore you’re wrong’

    “An Earthworm thou art”, Mrs Moehau Man observes.

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  154. Moehau Man says:

    I feelz, therefore you’re wrong

    I wish you foreign jokers could make up your minds. Is the Moehau Man’s prong the most “am” or “wrong” thing in the rugged Coromandel and beyond?

    “I feelz therefore I’m fucked”, Mrs Moehau Man (my scholastic old mum) says.

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  155. Yoda says:

    Moe’s Mum write advice column she should

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  156. Cill says:

    Aunty Moe’s Finishing School for Lissom Loin-cloth Ladies

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  157. Cill says:

    It’s comforting to see that the Patriarch, as is his want, has been at pains to ensure that this thread remains firmly on topic. 😉

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  158. Cill says:

    No-one has pressed me for details of the shit the girl brought down on the kid here. I appreciate the respect.

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  159. Sumo says:

    No-one has pressed me for details of the shit the girl brought down on the kid here.

    Personally, I didn’t think the details were important; the end result (or the root cause, depending on your perspective) is the issue that needs to be addressed.

    I wish I could offer some decent advice, but the smarter folks have already put forth far better ideas than I could come up with. Alas, all I have is this – teach the lad to cook. While it might not seem like much, showing him how to do that for himself is one tiny thing that he won’t need a woman for. It may not be much, but it’s a start.

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  160. Cill says:

    IMHO you’ve hit the button there, bro. Self-suffiency is the key to independence, not only from women, but from a negative or hostile social environment in general. I try to teach these young blokes to be self-sufficient. The ability to generate electricity from the free energy of nature (e.g. sun, wind) is a huge advantage, but the ability to obtain (hunt, gather, grow) and cook food is fundamentally crucial.

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  161. Tarnished says:

    No-one has pressed me for details of the shit the girl brought down on the kid here. I appreciate the respect.

    Assumed that if it was extremely relevant to the type of advice needed, you would’ve specified what she did.

    Agree with Sumo that learning to cook for himself will give him more personal strengths and eliminate the “you’ll need a woman to XYZ for you! argument” likely to be thrown at him. To take it a step farther, I’d say he should learn to do other “feminine” chores like repairing his clothing (sewing, patching, etc) or canning/preserving fruits and vegetables.

    “In the real world of the rugged Coromandel”, Mrs Moehau Man (my knowledgeable old mum) says, “There are but the fuckor and the fuckee, and all else is irrelevant.”

    If done well, it should be very difficult to know who performed which role…😈

    These days one should not presuppose the gender identity of a being / system just by the mere circumstantial ‘evidence’ that that being / system gave birth to a human with a penis.

    Of Americans who participated in the 2010 US census, 89,667 had changed their names and 21,833 had also changed their sex. There were 308,000,000 US citizens that year. I don’t always math well, but I’m *pretty* sure that 111,500 transfolk is a relatively small percentage of the population.

    So. Yeah.
    If one assumes a penis-owner identifies as a man, or that a clit-owner identifies as a woman, the odds are with you that you’re correct. Of course, the numbers are skewed a bit by people like me who aren’t “cis” but also don’t necessarily want more government in our lives, but that’s also an incredibly small amount of “beings”.

    If someone tells you they identify as the opposite gender or that they prefer different pronouns…just take it from there. Easy peasy.

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  162. Cill says:

    Directly on topic
    I contacted the parents to invite the kid for a couple of days and a night as the first part of my plan per my comment at 12:43 am. They have just got back to me to say the kid is excited at the prospect of visiting me here. So folks, the wheels have been set in motion. Thanks to you all for your helpful comments and support.

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  163. Tarnished says:

    On topic:
    Nice! Good going, Cill.
    Hope all the advice here proves helpful.

    Off topic:
    My youngest sister recently got LASIK surgery to correct her nearsightedness (which I also have). We were having dinner at mom’s last night, and she said I should get it done as well.

    I put on a straight face and told her “Sure. But I’ll only get 1 eye fixed. That way I can rock the hell out of a monocle.”

    Sister stared at me while mom and brother just shook their heads. I’m a terrible person. 😀

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  164. Cill says:

    They couldn’t see the humour?

    You’re a terrible person Tarn. We all knew that here already.

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  165. Tarnished says:

    Well, yeah. But I act like myself here and with my real-life friends.

    I tone my actual personality down by absolutely ridiculous magnitudes while around my family. I only slip a few times a year, like in the example above.

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  166. Tarnished says:

    What’s the first thing you’re planning for the kid?

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  167. Liz says:

    “I put on a straight face and told her “Sure. But I’ll only get 1 eye fixed. That way I can rock the hell out of a monocle.”

    Hee hee that was funny Tarn.
    That or an eyepatch. Arrr!

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  168. Spawny Get says:

    If you’re into diving (bubbles not muff), you need LASEK rather than LASIK. I believe that it’s better anyway, but not having your eyes blow themselves apart during deco stops is particularly ++good

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  169. Ame says:

    Cill says:
    28 April, 2016 at 7:57 pm
    “No-one has pressed me for details of the shit the girl brought down on the kid here. I appreciate the respect.”

    not necessary … especially with a kid his age.

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  170. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, none of our business if she outed him as a Brony. That you share blood with a Brony is something best not mentioned.

    More seriously, best of luck to you both

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  171. Ame says:

    thedeti says:
    28 April, 2016 at 5:06 pm
    Brother Cill:

    I just thought of something else you might want to dispense to your young charge. This is a pretty important and fundamental thing a lot of boys need to know right off the bat.

    “Don’t take advice from women about anything. Not about girls, or sex, or marriage, or work, or life.”

    We all know why, too. Women are not men, have not lived as men, don’t share the same experiences as men, aren’t motivated by the same things as men, and don’t suffer the same consequences as men.
    ================================

    i agree.

    there have actually been times with my step son where i have made myself unavailable to him, forcing him to wait till his dad got home (i’m a sahm; his dad works often long hours). i knew he was seeking advice, and he needed to get it from his dad, not a woman.

    i think there are times a woman can give information, clarification, or understanding, but not advice to a man.

    for example, there have been times a man has come to me asking me to explain what a woman is thinking when she does ___ as he is not a woman. i give information, but not advice.

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  172. Cill says:

    What’s the first thing you’re planning for the kid?

    I copied this down from my commment at 12:43 am:

    On day 1 we’ll do some fishing off the rocks, and have some fun in the power boat. I’ve yet to meet a young bloke who doesn’t respond positively to 1050 h.p. at full throttle. We’ll go spotlighting (shooting) opossums at night. Next day he can wake to the lonesome beauty of this place. I’ll show him my property and how it works. It should take his mind off negative stuff. With his permission I’ll invite his parents to go out sailing the next day (day 3).

    I’ll take them out sight-seeing and fishing and snorkeling. When everyone is relaxed and enjoying themselves I’ll suggest that the kid could stay for 4 more days. I’m fairly sure they’ll be confident in my hospitality, and accept the offer.

    After dropping the parents off I’ll take the kid home and start the red pill education, interspersed with a lot of work around the farm. I know the kid, and the help he gives me will be valuable, so I’ll pay him for the work. I will make use of most of the suggestions you’ve all kindly made.

    No alcohol.

    [Cill Edit: No alcohol means none in front of the kid and his parents]

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  173. Ame says:

    i guess i should note … i have learned that the hard way, not b/c i was ever taught (but should have been)

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  174. Spawny Get says:

    “I tone my actual personality down by absolutely ridiculous magnitudes”
    It’s only fair to do that. Some of them might then be able to keep up.

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  175. Yoda says:

    A new post there would be

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  176. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    Normally, I am curious but, after reading the post, I never gave it a thought. There must be a thousand ways a girl can crush a boy’s heart and they all end in the same result.

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  177. Tarnished says:

    I copied this down from my commment at 12:43 am…

    Danke schön, Cill.
    I must’ve skipped that comment before.

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  178. Tarnished says:

    It’s only fair to do that. Some of them might then be able to keep up.

    It’s really less for that reason (though it’s also closer to reality than should be allowed), and more because they’d be thrown for a complete loop.

    While with the family, I don’t curse (at all), sit and walk like a woman, speak in my “soft” voice, let my sisters fuss over my hair and nails, nod at everything my younger brother says, and don’t state any opinions they don’t also hold.

    It…preserves the peace. 😉

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  179. […] Spawny’s Space, thedeti left the following comment on a thread where a man is seeking advice on helping a teenage […]

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  180. Sumo says:

    If you’re into diving (bubbles not muff)

    Methinks that our noble patriarch is into the wrong kind of diving…

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  181. thedeti says:

    Dear Cill:

    This also might help a bit. It’s from a Christian viewpoint, which might or might not fit with your young charge. Take from it what is helpful and leave the rest.

    https://donalgraeme.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/guiding-young-men-through-the-red-pill/comment-page-1/#comments

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  182. BuenaVista says:

    Just let the boy have fun and witness a man of the world operate; the catechism of RP can wait until the boy asks, “Why are you so different?”

    An isolated boy who’s being gaslit by everyone he is instructed to trust just needs a free man of the world wink, and say, “Don’t believe everything they tell you. Fetch that box-end wrench over there, big guy, and we’ll get this big dog running shortly.”

    You are doing a fine thing, Cill. I also think you will find it very gratifying to mentor a boy on the edge.

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  183. Spawny Get says:

    “Methinks that our noble patriarch is into the wrong kind of diving…”

    I’m certainly only into one kind…

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