What Happened?


RPG in her blog comments suggests,

In addition, I believe most men (including them) would love to love a woman like that, it’s often women who make that impossible. Many women have been raised to be hostile, dangerous, untrustworthy, and self centered. Sadly. I feel for men today. The pickings are slim…

As for a woman like that, one can put their own interpretation on that.  However, at the bare minimum it means that she is pleasant, not always angling for advantage and actually adds value to his life.

It is actually to her advantage to be non-hostile, non-dangerous, trustworthy, and non-self centered.  At least is she wants a successful long term relationship with a non-cad type of fella.  Perhaps modern women tend to go for guys with cadish tendencies, and as such are prepared for the part by being indoctrinated with through the development of selfish behavior.  When the cad treats her poorly, or even dumps her, she is ready.

So apparently,

I. Women do not realize that cultivating the above mentioned good behaviors can lead to good long term relationships

II.  They realize that it can, but the probabilities are low based on what they see around them.  This all becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as those around them behave poorly because they see high unlikelihood of success with good behavior.  One might liken this  to a death spiral with all of the women embracing each other.

III.  They do realize the possibility, but can not resist using their sexual leverage for short term gain.

IV.  Women just don’t really think about these things, and just fall into the behavior of those surrounding them.

Probably it is a combination of all the above (an perhaps some more).  What is needed are many role models of how good marriages should be.  In the olden days, there were rules that tried to keep people on the straight and narrow.  They were not always successful, but they did channel enough people into good marriages such that others could see how it was done.  These days, the role models are few and far between.

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145 comments on “What Happened?
  1. Horseman says:

    wish I had an answer. the death spiral is the most likely. Added to it thenew generation coddled since birth so they only know short term actions. Even if the women changed so many male children saw their fathers ambushed that mgtow is the default male setting.

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It is probably a combination. However, the mental image of a group hug in the midst of a death spiral is tempting.

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  3. Yoda says:

    Added to it thenew generation coddled since birth so they only know short term actions.

    How to teach long term thinking one wonders

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  4. SFC Ton says:

    Bloom should no better then to speculate about men.

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It is almost that women are setting themselvesup for failure. Perhaps it’s a measure of control.
    Perhaps men have to succeed as short term before they are considered for long term.
    It is kind of exasperating.

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  6. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    ANZ Bank is discussed here.

    As far as I can see, this bank does not want male depositors. Or, shareholders for that matter too.

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  7. Ame says:

    Fuzzie –
    fuzziewuzziebear says:
    13 April, 2016 at 3:18 am
    “It is probably a combination. However, the mental image of a group hug in the midst of a death spiral is tempting.”

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  8. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Did I see someone large and furry named “Bear” in the midst of that?
    Awwwwwwww….

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  9. Cill says:

    In “The Death Watch of Matriarchy” I quote Harway and O’Neil with reference to my view that a matriarchy will be physically cruel to males: “The power balance in favor of females creates a context that supports female abuse of males. These data on female violence contradict Thornhills’ hypothesis that violent behavior in males is an evolved, sex-specific behavior.”

    Here is an example of it in action. The level of cruelty by these women is hard to beat (the case against them is being tried right now):

    Mum and partner charged with son’s murder also accused of abusing two other boys and forcing them to eat dog dirt

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  10. Tarnished says:

    It is actually to her advantage to be non-hostile, non-dangerous, trustworthy, and non-self centered.

    Of course. Anyone would want this in a mate. Question is, why are these behaviors not the default? Is the Golden Rule not taught in the context of relationships?

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  11. Tarnished says:

    Also…hi again, everyone. Haven’t been avoiding the blogs. Just dealing with some shit irl.

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  12. Ame says:

    Tarn – glad you’re okay … was wondering about you 🙂

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  13. Yoda says:

    Is the Golden Rule not taught in the context of relationships?

    Apparently not it is.
    “It’s all about me” the new rule it is.
    The results of this often seen in extravagant weddings it is

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  14. Tarnished says:

    Thanks, Ame. It’s been a tough week. Mom needed help paying her rent again so that threw my budget out of whack, I blew a tire on my car (got it under control, no accident but still a huge WTF! moment), cockatiel is in her laying-season and got egg bound one morning so I had to help her through that.

    Oh, and my love got fired from his job for “financial reasons” during one of his more depressive episodes last week. You cannot imagine the anger boiling in me, holding him and watching him tear up as he talked about his thrice-forsaken “loss of worth”. Gods above, but I wanted to rip someone’s throat out for making him feel that way, but had to remain strong and calm on the outside for him.

    When it rains, it fucking pours, mein Freunde.

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  15. Tarnished says:

    The results of this often seen in extravagant weddings it is.

    Hmmm. True.
    Maybe this could be used as one final chance for a guy to see what he’s getting into, though. If she plans to make the day all about her, at any cost, then it’s sure to carry over into their private lives. I realize it is extremely frowned upon, and a major faux pas to break an engagement, but I’d prefer that over a divorce or wretched marriage.

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  16. Yoda says:

    Girls taught anything they are?

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  17. Yoda says:

    Seemingly “telling the truth” not taught to her as a girl it was

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  18. Yoda says:

    Ditch the hair now she can

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  19. Tarnished says:

    Girls taught anything they are?

    Depends on what you mean. Obviously girls are taught in schools, at home, by the media, and places of worship (if they’re theists). But if you are referring to basic morals…well.

    Few are really “taught” those nowadays.

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  20. Liz says:

    I’ve stopped trying to figure women out.
    Last night we had a few friends over and the one friend got completely plastered (he was out on the boat with Mike earlier, that’s where he became inebriated). He had just broken up with his girlfriend. What happened was, she went out with the girls (she lives in another town) two nights ago and told him where she would be (she texts him about 50 times a day).
    It was a bar where they had live webcams everywhere, so he wrote back, “Cool, I’ll be able to watch you online”.
    I guess she didn’t get the memo. So, he got online and saw her behaving very badly. While he texted, “I can see you” and then started texting her pictures of herself in flagrante delicato. It was a public bar so it wasn’t like she was having sex, but I guess it was egregious enough.
    She didn’t check her phone until later and now she has been calling him nonstop. But he isn’t answering of course.
    This is really the first relationship he has ever had where he actually loved the girl and planned to be with her longterm (they’d talked about kids and future plans…she’s in nursing school). He’s also a very “alpha” dude. He’s the one I mentioned a while back with stalkers, and the chick who left him pies and a grill on his front doorstep and still writes to him after years and years. Just turned 30.
    There’s really no earthly reason I can figure out why she acted so disloyally.

    Conversation with Mike after he left:
    Liz, “What on earth was she thinking? Doesn’t anyone believe in loyalty anymore?”
    Mike, “Women are bad.”
    Liz, “I know but this bad?”
    Mike, “Women are just bad.”

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  21. Yoda says:

    Her evil twin at the bar doing those things it was.
    Know this because into movies I am

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  22. Yoda says:

    Why women with boyfriends go to bars/night clubs they do?
    No need to find a guy there is.
    Perhaps to get a validation fix it is.
    “Validation” perhaps the most addictive drug there is

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  23. Yoda says:

    The power balance in favor of females creates a context that supports female abuse of males

    Often with a power imbalance there is,
    a set of morals associated with the situation there are.
    An example “teacher with student” it is.
    Little morals other than “grab all you can get” there is

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  24. Yoda says:

    Guess the theme of Ms. Dolezal’s book I can.
    “Strive to be a victim I did, and success I did achieve”

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  25. Liz says:

    “Here is an example of it in action. The level of cruelty by these women is hard to beat (the case against them is being tried right now)”

    How horrifying. 😦

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  26. Liz says:

    “Also…hi again, everyone. Haven’t been avoiding the blogs. Just dealing with some shit irl.”

    Good to see you Tarn!
    Hope everything is okay.
    (I miss Bloom too…hope she is well)

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  27. SFC Ton says:

    Seems like typical girls night our behavior to me…. ever wonder why so may guys will make out with a chick all night long but not get the lay……?

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  28. Dragonfly says:

    Wow Tarn, I’m so sorry 😦 It’s true that when it rains, it just pours! It’s wonderful that your guy has you there for him through this. He is really lucky… I think a lot of women would leave him in that situation and label him a “loser.” 😦 So yuck.

    And Liz, I don’t get it either, the lack of loyalty…??? And how you say that he was a really “alpha” dude, it just makes me believe all the more that yes, game “helps” but really, it has to do with the woman deciding to do good by him.

    I think it’s the lack of having morals and integrity that women are missing because they aren’t being raised to value those traits at all.

    My husband listens to this radio program almost every morning, called the Second Date Update where people call in when they don’t get a call back or can’t reach their date afterwards, in order to try to find out what happened. We both think it’s a horrible idea, but boy has it led to some great red pill truths that we’ve discussed together.

    Just this morning, my husband told me it was a woman calling in (side note: women should NEVER call a radio show to find out why the man wasn’t interested in her, it just screams insecure and desperate and a turn off… but then again, if they’re wise, they could REALLY learn what they did so wrong. Most don’t learn though, and they go into a feminist tirade **ON THE RADIO** about why he’s wrong to expect her to act appropriately or whatever.

    So a young 20’s woman calls in, totally into this man and really wanted something more with him but she never got a call back and he seems to have forgotten about her. They call him and he admits that she is really beautiful, but that when he was gracious to her at a restraurant and even sent her home with a decadent dessert to enjoy later, she never once thanked him. This lack of gratitude on her part was what led him to NEXT her and move on.

    Texas, just so you know, is full of red-pill minded men like him.

    She wanted to make it up to him and have a second chance… because he was “hot.” So yes, the red pill mindset (working *to be* “hot” and command respect and proper treatment from women really does make it easier for both sexes to interact better).

    The callers wanted him to be wary of giving her a second chance (see, Texas is red pill in a lot of ways), and they warned him that women are either “raised” to be grateful or they’re not. That it’s not something this girl can just “learn.” My husband agreed. I disagreed lol… I’ve seen some married red pill blogger men say that their wives have “had to learn” otherwise they’re going to lose their husbands. I think the motivation of that dread game of losing him, really does work for some women (like the radio example, she didn’t want to lose him and is *hopefully* going to work to change).

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  29. Cill says:

    How horrifying

    I thought so too, Liz

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  30. Dragonfly says:

    Here’s the link if you want to listen to it! It is so entertaining… seriously. My husband always has great thoughts on it, very red pill thoughts… I SO WISH he would blog, but he doesn’t really have the time.

    http://www.y100fm.com/list/entertainment/morning-show/second-date-update/etS/

    Today’s is up.

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  31. Ame says:

    Tarn. blech. so sorry 😦
    my late mentor would always say to me, “When you have a lot of things going on at the same time, you can’t give any undo attention to any one of them.”

    wish I could help.

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  32. Liz says:

    “Oh, and my love got fired from his job for “financial reasons” during one of his more depressive episodes last week. You cannot imagine the anger boiling in me, holding him and watching him tear up as he talked about his thrice-forsaken “loss of worth”. Gods above, but I wanted to rip someone’s throat out for making him feel that way, but had to remain strong and calm on the outside for him.”

    Sorry Tarn, just reading this now. 😦
    (I’m going through posts slowly…lot going on over here)

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  33. Ame says:

    Liz … I just don’t get women, either. an insatiable desire for attention? affirmation?

    and I can hear their girlfriends cheering them on 😦

    whenever I get a chance to explain to women that in the same way they have things they like/don’t like, men also have things they like/don’t like, too … … I almost always get this, “Wow! Really!” as if they’ve never thought about it before.

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  34. Cill says:

    Fuzzy, re the ANZ Bank: I’m looking into it.

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  35. Ame says:

    Farm Boy –
    “What is needed are many role models of how good marriages should be.”

    now, that is the truth. my late mentor and her husband let me sit in their home and watch how they interacted, and she taught me a lot about simply being a wife and mother (I didn’t meet her till after both babies were born; wish I had known her a lot longer but was thankful for the few years we had before she passed).

    but few women want to take the time to invest in and share with younger women how this marriage thing works well, how to respect their husband, etc.

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  36. Tarnished says:

    But few women want to take the time to invest in and share with younger women how this marriage thing works well, how to respect their husband, etc.

    Why might this be?

    Like

  37. Tarnished says:

    Dragonfly,
    Thanks for the link! It sounds like a good program to listen to, if only to help create conversation.

    How horrifying
    I thought so too, Liz

    Nausea inducing, really.
    Our species is truly terrible at times. 😠

    Liz … I just don’t get women, either. An insatiable desire for attention? affirmation?

    Got it in one, methinks. That’s typical of someone with an external identity type. It’s a lack of SELF-esteem, which makes them very reliant on others.

    It’s wonderful that your guy has you there for him through this. He is really lucky…

    Sadly, I think you’re right about the luck part. Just shows how far we’ve fallen.

    I think a lot of women would leave him in that situation and label him a “loser.”

    Any woman like that would be utterly undeserving of him. He is still worth exactly the same today as he was a week ago. He is a good person, and a wonderful man. My love’s inherent value, general personality, and sexual attractiveness remain completely unaffected by the loss of his job.❤ Now, if I can just get him to realize that…*sigh* Society really does make men feel like they have to have a fat wallet to be human. I kinda hoped my guy was beyond this, since we don’t follow regular roles. Looks like it’s claws are in him, regardless. 😦

    Thank you for the condolences, everyone. I will pass them on to him.

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  38. Ame says:

    Tarn – that’s a very good question … and not one i’m sure i have the answer to, or at least, now a whole answer to. i can speculate on some things though.

    – i remember my mentor being cautious with the women she mentored b/c they needed to be committed. she would often say it’s harder to unlearn false-truths than to learn the truth from the beginning. those unwiling to face the truth that they may have been taught, learned, acquired ways of living based on lies, she was unwilling to mentor.
    – unfortunately, many young women think they know it all and don’t want to learn truths from an older, mature woman.
    – older, mature women aren’t as valued in our society as they are in others or in times past.
    – i think … and this is just my supposition … that many older women have so many skeletons in their closets that they’re unwilling to face that they have nothing to pass on. and those wiling to face their own stuff often feel unworthy.
    – it takes a vulnerability on both the older woman and the younger woman.
    – and … this has been a surprise to me. i totally did not expect this. but at 51, i’m starting to feel displaced in this world. technology is moving so fast and younger women seem so confident from this 51yo pov. it’s a very odd place for me to be. i could never have guessed in a jillion years i would feel insecure at this age in some ways, but i do. it’s, unsettling.

    however, women have come across my path who have been willing to listen and learn, and i am willing to share what i’ve learned and know. i’m pretty much an open book if i believe the person i’m sharing with is safe. and i’m not afraid to tell it like it is, to call someone out on their stuff.

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  39. BuenaVista says:

    “What is needed are many role models of how good marriages should be. In the olden days, there were rules that tried to keep people on the straight and narrow.”

    This is really beside the point. Sure, it is very pleasant to be around a woman with manners, but anyone who is walking, talking and still capable of turning on the television is innured to the collapse of manners (and manners’ underlying foundation in moral strictures, moral objectives, and quaint historical conventions such as an intact family and a potential family legacy). The reason why men are bailing, and laughing at the romantic sagas (and formulaic divorce sagas of women, which ALL contain the same three or four talking points) of “red pill women” is that the men understand the facts, the law, and the outcomes these women support.

    Bloom’s blog is about as red pill as the lifestyle section of The Boston Globe, though of course everyone there now is sweet and romantic and empathetic. It is a very odd point of departure for a discussion of Why Chicks Be Self-Destructive, Oh Noes.

    Men who unplug didn’t do so because Girls Gone Wild behavior, such as Liz describes well*, is so mainstream that The Girls get huffy if someone asks them what the heck they’re trying to accomplish. They didn’t unplug because there aren’t enough Sweet and Romantic fairy tales to go around, offered by heaving-bosom Christian self-advertisers, or not.. And they didn’t unplug because they’re butt-hurt “bitter” clingers who find it safer to slap the monkey than orbit and court Strong Women whose sense of entitlement is such that they justify *any* personal behavior provided it generates momentary thrills. (Any man who unplugs, incidentally, has more women at his door than he ever did as a blue pill Good Man.)

    These men unplug because they observe: Their fathers, or their friends, or they themselves inhabit an environment where such female behavior is both celebrated, and is backed up by the guys with the guns. They do so because it has dawned on them — as noted in the prior post — they don’t even own their own patrimony. They do so because they’ll go to jail if a woman says they should, to the guys with the guns. They do so because, with a single phone call from a single female, they can be excised from their childrens’ lives. They do so because it doesn’t matter if NAWALT, if all of society’s rules and punishments *are* like that. They do so becaused, unlike the sweet and romantic narratives pitched by females (and males who live for the approbation of females), they know: if there is a 50% chance of being destroyed by a single female’s phone call, the idea that “Come back, Come back, We’ll be nice this time, We swear!” as a life strategy is absurd. Especially for any man over 25. Fifty percent of 50 percent of 50% yields a one in eight probability of a life our grandparents enjoyed.

    Meanwhile, women (who never change in their ambitions for their intimate relationships) are silent on the legal, social, academic and financial conditions that have been erected for their benefit. They do not modify their behavior or expectations because the men they seek finally have their eyes open. They do express the usual happy horseshit about how men should Man UP! and recognize a nice girl when he sees one.

    (In fact, it’s far better to interact with an avowed feminist SJW, who at least is up-front with her agenda. For men who haven’t unplugged, I always suggest they get wise and spend time with an honest woman (honest about her entitlements) than one who claims distinction while denying her difference.)

    TL;DR: It’s not the style, it’s not the manners, it’s not the “absence of mentors.” It’s the laws. Women can be ignored. The law devours anyone it selects, if he stands in its path. Chicks be self-destructive (or patronizing) and vulgar because those laws don’t apply to them. Their behavior costs them nothing.

    *That story is so good, Liz, you should have kept it for one of your books.

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  40. BuenaVista says:

    For the past two weeks I’ve been training a 20 year-old boy. He’s having a baby in July (unmarried, though cohabiting); he’s on parole for drugs (his mother — divorced of course from his father — supplied him hydrocodone, oxy and weed; things went down from there) and petty theft. This boy is on the ragged edge of poverty: his transmission just blew up, and he lost — poof — the economic cushion he’s tried to assemble for the past six months. He’s skilled with heavy machines, he installed a new floor and new carpet at the apartment he shares with his girlfriend, still plays soccer, softball (invited me onto his team today), and rides bulls (invited me to join him this Saturday!). He’s clean, wants to be a good dad, survived four months in rehab, and is highly competent on the job.

    It’s been very enjoyable, the past two weeks. He’s thoughtful, damaged, desperate for approval, funny. I have enjoyed the past two weeks more than the prior six months. I miss being a Dad, obviously.

    I asked him if he and his girlfriend were going to get married. “Talk to my Dad, about that, ha-ha-ha!”

    His mother recently decided to initiate an affair with the owner of the farms where his father works, and where the boy worked. She doesn’t need a “mentor”, she needs to be in jail. We all know, however, that if his father were feeding him hydros, with breakfast (this is not hyperbole), his father *would* be in jail. I’m amazed this kid is alive. The legal environment created his mother, not some failure of character or impulse.

    He’s 20, he’s unplugged, and he always will be. Someday, probably when his child is about 4 or 5, he’ll realize that he himself never had a childhood. He’ll have a reaction to that. “Red pill women” tend to call that reaction “bitter.” Rather, he’ll just be a 25 year-old with the objective perspective of a middle-aged man.

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  41. SFC Ton says:

    Preach it BV and God bless you for your good works

    As a bar owner, I see behavior like Liz described every night I am there (or its dead and we ain’t making money)

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    That was horrible. She deserves the death penalty and will get a slap on the wrist. The kid was probbly and angel.

    Tarn,
    You’re a good GF. I hope that he finds a new job fast.

    Liz,
    What Mike had to say worries me. He is not telling you all that he sees.

    Dragonfly,
    So they leave a terrible first impressionand want another chance?

    That video link that Yoda provided of Rachel Dolezal says too much about modern woemen.

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  43. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Getting back to the original post, if women have a preference for cads and a revulsion for men who would be good husbands and fathers, who am I to argue? This is out of my hands and it is well past time to accept it.

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  44. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    If you’re following the case, would you keep us posted on the sentence?
    That a mother would treat her kid that way is diabolical.

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  45. Cill says:

    There were 2 women, the mother and her dominating lezzo “partner”. There were 3 abused boys, the one who died and 2 others who were subjected to the cruelty as well. I hear the cruelty was gender justified, i.e. men are sub-human and deserve nothing less. It reminds me of Maori treatment of the Moriori.

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  46. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    The kids may have had a chance if the father were around.
    This story is so bad, these women are so cruel, that you don’t want to think about anything.
    They are probably going to get a slap on the wrist.

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  47. Liz says:

    Cill: “There were 2 women, the mother and her dominating lezzo “partner”. There were 3 abused boys, the one who died and 2 others who were subjected to the cruelty as well.”

    I wonder who the two other boys were and why they were under their care? Maybe they were foster parenting them? In which case, the taxpayers were actually paying them to abuse these children. But I’d think the article would mention it. It was vague.
    We really need to come up with more creative punishments in our penal system.
    Cruel and unusual might be interpreted as cruel or unusual is okay…just, you know, not BOTH (at the same time).

    BV: “That story is so good, Liz, you should have kept it for one of your books.”

    As Mark Twain would say, truth is stranger than fiction because in fiction you have to stick to the possibilities. They’d never believe that story. 🙂

    Speaking of the weirdness of modern society and all that, Gweneth Paltrow has come out and said, “I’m proud of my sexuality”. I thought for sure she was going to claim that, at the age of 43 she has decided she’s a lesbian (that’s usually the point of pride…although perhaps that one has jumped the shark by now).
    But, no, she just wants everyone to know she’s a strong, independent, woman who is proud that she has sex. And we should all know that because…well, I’m not sure but it’s important to be proud, because it’s sure an accomplishment. Kind of like wearing those armbands to “raise awareness” are a real accomplishment and point of pride.

    “From the wild Irish slums of the 19th century Eastern seaboard to the riot-torn suburbs of Los Angeles, there is one unmistakeable lesson in American history: a community that allows a large number of your men and women to grow up in boken families, dominated by women, never acquiring any stable relationship to male authority, never acquiring any set of rational expectations about the future…that community asks for and gets chaos”

    The above was written by a Democrat and sociologist, in 1965 (Daniel Patrick Moynihan). Imagine a Democrat saying something like that now.

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  48. thedeti says:

    Buena Vista has, as he always does, explained quite well What Happened from the women’s side, I think. But women’s conduct doesn’t take place in a vacuum. Let me ‘splain.

    What happened with women is that they are acting this way because they can. They fuck hot men because they can. They throw punches at men because they can. They can, because for decades they screamed “it’s not fair” and “make it fair”. So men with money, power and guns decreed “we shall make it fair”. And they did.

    “What Happened” on the men’s side is that no one bothered to explain to them that when you “make it fair”, women no longer have to select men for security. When it’s all going to be paid for, women can have sex with whoever they want. Women can then go for their beta cucks when they feel their ovaries start drying up.

    No one has been training men for the Brave New “Fair” World their overlords prepared for them. No one has been telling men how to navigate a world in which they are expected to accept a woman with a double digit partner count before he’s ever even met her. In which they’re not only to accept this, but to embrace it and finance it as well.

    What Happened on the men’s side is that all this “fairness” means men are very very confused about what they are supposed to be, what they’re supposed to do, and what the masculine role is in this Brave New “Fair” World. They’re confused even about what masculinity is.

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  49. Yoda says:

    Liz,

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  50. thedeti says:

    Part II

    They’re confused about what masculinity is because no one has told them, or if they have told those men what masculinity is, they’ve identified it as “bad” and “toxic”.

    Funnily enough, the form of masculinity these men are told is “bad ” and “toxic” is also the form of masculinity which brings them great success in life, work, love, and sex.

    But, for all but the most attractive men, though, masculinity will not get them sex or marriage. I am afraid that most men in the years and decades ahead will have to accept they won’t marry, they won’t have wives, and they will not have children. Even if they impregnate a woman, most men will have no rights to see their children, participate in his/her upbringing, or live with them.

    Most men will not marry. Most men will not have lives in which they have the regular attentions of a woman. Most men will not have sex regularly. Most men will have brief relationships or one-nighters, interspersed with very long dry spells in which they go months or years with no sex, and indeed even without another human being touching them. Most men who can afford it will use prostitutes. Those who cannot, will retreat into porn.

    in 2016, it is all about physical hotness. Most men are not physically hot. Most men are not attractive enough to get and keep the interest of a woman long term. So, most men will go without.

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  51. Cill says:

    Liz the identities of the other 2 boys are being protected for undisclosed reasons. All we know is, they were in the care of the 2 women at some stage. As the feminist world edges toward outright matriarchy, we can expect more of this stuff.

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  52. Liz says:

    We live in a toxic matriarchy.

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  53. Liz says:

    Gah…I need some levity.
    Yesterday we were getting beer for the boat. I pointed to a 12 pack of Sam Adams (summer variety pack) and asked Mike, “Would you like some summer variety?”
    He paused and responded, “Whatever do you mean?”
    It was pretty funny.
    (he knew I was asking about the beer)

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  54. Cill says:

    I buy booze for ballast in the bilge, but don’t touch it whilst at sea. Sailing is my Prohibition Period, yeah I’m like a prissy progressive. Then I allow the maidens aboard in the dusky ports and select which ones are pure enough to take away my virginity. 😉

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    So much for my favoured theory that Tarn’s relative absence was due to life improving. Bollocks. Sorry to hear the news.

    Liked by 5 people

  56. Spawny Get says:

    “It reminds me of Maori treatment of the Moriori”
    You’ll not be surprised to hear that this tale has been mentioned in the context of the invasion currently occurring in Yerp. Fucking brutal.

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  57. Cill says:

    Muahaha eat yer hearts out fembots 👿

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  58. Spawny Get says:

    Worth a post? I’d be happier if we left the drawing of modern parallels out of the post itself.

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  59. Cill says:

    You’ll not be surprised to hear that this tale has been mentioned in the context of the invasion currently occurring in Yerp
    Is the comparison being made in the MSM?

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  60. Cill says:

    Worth a post?

    I’ve just started drafting one on a different subject.
    (Anti-male advertising Down Under)

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  61. Ame says:

    BV –
    “It’s not the style, it’s not the manners, it’s not the “absence of mentors.” It’s the laws. Women can be ignored. The law devours anyone it selects, if he stands in its path. Chicks be self-destructive (or patronizing) and vulgar because those laws don’t apply to them. Their behavior costs them nothing.”

    truth.

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  62. Tarnished says:

    Gah…I need some levity

    Like a peacock spider dancing to the YMCA song?

    Liked by 5 people

  63. Spawny Get says:

    In the comments on the MSM…where allowed. Comment threads on MSM are disappearing, I think that they’re getting tired of their articles being ripped to shreds in comments. I don’t read articles where comments are disallowed because it feels like they’re admitting that their articles are shonky from the get go. The MSM is dying on its knees.

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  64. Ame says:

    BV – that young man is very fortunate to have you in his life. wondering … would it be possible for him to get primary custody after the child is born?

    we’ve been in a long, harsh ‘season’ with my step son who turned 18 in december. his mother did terrible things to his mind – nothing tangible (though, as you mentioned, even that is hard to prove in court). then she upped even her own sh*t a couple months ago, and he spiraled down till he ended up in a psych hospital for severe depression and cutting. his dad brought him home today. we’ve had him in therapy, at his request, and we spend a lot of time with him. but memory triggers and other recent things she’s done caused him to ‘snap.’ he was angry at his dad for not getting custody in the divorce, but in texas he’d have to have proven her an unfit mother, and not only was that not going to happen, but it would have destroyed his finances even more. layered on this the poor kid had a girlfriend in the fall who was satan herself. now that he’s 18, his mother can no longer control him, although she is trying like there’s no tomorrow.

    he and i have always got along great. when his dad and i were first married he said to me several times, “Please stop being so nice to me. You’re nicer to me than my mom.” broke.my.heart. what he was saying was that he felt guilty for liking being w/me over his mom. i told him i can only be me.

    i’ve also worked hard to have a good relationship w/his mom to keep peace as much as possible. this has afforded me, a few times over the years, to step in on his behalf.

    he’s got a long road, but he is going to be okay. his dad can now be there for him in ways he was limited before.

    ***

    i hate mothers who take their kids away from their dads. are there cases where kids need to be taken away from their dads? sure, but they’re probably less than 1% of the dads out there. kids NEED their dads.

    and you’re right … that young man’s mother should be in prison for life. that is sick and evil.

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    Not peacock and peahen, but Spawny’s Achers are currently graced by a couple of pheasants. One is happy to confirm that the pheasants are not revolting. The cock is looking good, I’ve decided that they will not be gracing my pot.

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  66. Tarnished says:

    Ame,

    I didn’t know you are a stepparent. I sincerely apologize if my comment over at Bloom’s made it seem like I thought all stepfathers/stepmothers were untrustworthy. Like I said…there are a few good ones.

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  67. Ame says:

    Tarn – love that cute spider! esp since it’s on the screen and not my arm 🙂

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  68. Ame says:

    Tarn –
    “I didn’t know you are a stepparent. I sincerely apologize if my comment over at Bloom’s made it seem like I thought all stepfathers/stepmothers were untrustworthy. Like I said…there are a few good ones.”

    you spoke the truth. that did not offend me nor did i take it personally. no worries.

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  69. Ame says:

    Tarn – the only thing that is offensive in our home is the term: “Like a red-headed step-child” b/c one of my daughter’s has bright red hair 🙂

    i have to remind my sweet red-neck husband of this from time-to-time!

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  70. Tarnished says:

    Ooof. Yeah…heh. I can see how that’d be problematic.

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  71. Tarnished says:

    Glad I didn’t offend you. Either by talking ill of stepparents or triggering any arachnophobia. 😉

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  72. Tarnished says:

    Spawny,

    One is happy to confirm that the pheasants are not revolting.

    But are they living under a supreme executive power derived from a mandate from the masses, rather than from some farcical aquatic ceremony?

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  73. Yoda says:

    But are they living under a supreme executive power derived from a mandate from the masses,

    Power derived from being a Glorious Patriarch it is

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  74. Cill says:

    My old mate runs a benevolent dictator ship – a tight one, mind – but benign. The pheasants are cognizant of this fact, and if they wish to keep their legs they won’t be revolting in a hurry.

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  75. Cill says:

    BTW I know a particularly delicious recipe for decapitated pheasant, should it be required.

    NZ’s equivalent is the pūkeko, a wetland bird.

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  76. Liz says:

    Could you post that pheasant recipe, Cill?

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  77. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Bill only said that to defend Hillary. For anyone else, he would not have taken the political risk of offending Black Lives Matter.
    He hasn’t changed.

    Did someone say levity?

    At that level of sophistication, I could start producing my own bear videos> 😛

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  78. Ame says:

    that was so pathetic it was hilarious!

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  79. Cill says:

    Liz casserole the breasts and legs in a slow cooker with liquid chicken stock and some white wine. Add rosemary, bay, thyme, onion, garlic and a bit of fresh ginger. Cook all day.

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  80. Cill says:

    Here is a NZ recipe (not mine) for Pukeko (rough equivalent of pheasant):

    Locate 1 x Pukeko in natural habitat
    Put 2 x 12 gauge rounds up the spout (semi auto more fun).
    Line up said bird, and stuff 2+ rounds into bird’s arse.
    Leave remains where landed
    (Not recommended for human consumption)

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  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    After all that, there’s not much left, is there?

    Liked by 1 person

  82. Cill says:

    Fuzzy not unless you enjoy the lead stuffing

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  83. Ame says:

    Cill – you cracked me up! i needed a good laugh before bed! 🙂

    Liked by 1 person

  84. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There may be a few feathers if the wind has been calm.

    Liked by 1 person

  85. Cill says:

    The last thing that went through the pukeko’s mind would be right on topic I reckon, as in –>

    What TF Happened?

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Poor Pukeko! 😦
    There is some synchonicity here. I am watching a documentary on WWII and they are discussing Katyn.

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  87. molly says:

    Fuzzie! Brands Hatch Race 2!

    Munch Pheasant while you watch:

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  88. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! burrito, burrito, burrito, 🐻 , roll.
    Whenever I see the Rainbow Furby avatar, it makes me happy!
    Thank you!

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  89. Cill says:

    I like those old 1950s racing bikes.

    Liked by 2 people

  90. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There is elegance in simplicity.

    Liked by 2 people

  91. molly says:

    Me too! 😀

    Liked by 1 person

  92. molly says:

    Old WordPress avatars – YES! Stupid new ones – NO! 😦

    Liked by 3 people

  93. molly says:

    New WordPress wink avatar 😉 duh

    Liked by 1 person

  94. Cill says:

    The old order changeth
    Yielding place to new

    …and not always for the better.

    Liked by 1 person

  95. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I miss the burritos the most!

    Liked by 1 person

  96. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    W still have bears. That is good. 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻

    Liked by 2 people

  97. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,

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  98. Farm Boy says:

    In consideration of a relationship with women,the law is huge in what man decides to do. Changing the legal situation to something equitable would only be a necessary condition for many men. It would not be sufficient. Women that are non-hostile, non-dangerous, trustworthy, and non-self centered might make it sufficient though.

    One wonders if women could be taught morality, such that even if they have the legal ability to screw over men, they don’t. In my personal case, I have the legal right to do immoral acts, yet I do not.

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  99. Cill says:

    [WATER CLOSET
    writers corner]

    Like

  100. Liz says:

    “One wonders if women could be taught morality, such that even if they have the legal ability to screw over men, they don’t. In my personal case, I have the legal right to do immoral acts, yet I do not.”

    I think that most behavior is based on social conditioning (loose taboo), not law (strict taboo)…though one often bleeds into another, especially in secular societies where the government has taken the place of religion and morals in the private lives of people.

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  101. Yoda says:

    This week’s female teacher busted for having a bunch of sex with a 16-year-old male teenager is Maria C. Chappell.

    Chappell, a 38-year-old English teacher at Jeannette High School in the suburbs of Pittsburgh, faces charges for having multiple bouts of sex with the student in her classroom, in her car and at a Holiday Inn Express & Suites, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

    The now-fired teacher taught English to freshmen, sophomores and juniors. She also taught a freshman course called “ethically speaking.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/13/female-ethics-teacher-busted-for-motel-sex-romp-with-teen/

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  102. Cill says:

    Damn. It’s that perennial “Comments are closed” thing again.

    Like

  103. Yoda says:

    Yes, comments closed they are.
    Post at 1201am Friday Patriarch time you do?
    If so, do it you must

    Like

  104. Yoda says:

    Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton is so down with the idea of a matriarchy that she laughed at the notion of letting a man into her presidential cabinet.

    During an interview with Newsday, Clinton was asked if there would be “gender parity” in her cabinet. Clinton responded: “Sure, absolutely, because I sure would love to reach that.”

    But when asked a follow-up question by Newsday’s Lane Filler about whether she would “at least let one man” into her cabinet, Clinton laughed and said: “I’m still considering that.”

    OK, I get it. This was a joke, and if I had been there I probably would have laughed. We as a society need to chill on this kind of stuff and not be so sensitive when it comes to obvious jokes like this. . . .

    The issue here — and the reason I’m writing this when I generally think we should lay off politicians who tell dumb jokes — is the double standard. If a male candidate had this exact same exchange about a woman being in his cabinet (and wasn’t joking, but simply stating that he would be looking at resumes and considering the best person for the job — regardless of gender), he would be excoriated.

    Case in point: When former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney discussed his quest to ensure qualified women were hired in his administration as Massachusetts governor, he was lambasted because he said he had “binders full of women”, referring to resumes. Romney was specifically talking about making sure he included women in his administration, and he was made fun of and accused of sexism.

    Now here we are, with a female presidential candidate joking about the possibility of excluding a sex from her candidate, and laughter’s had all around.

    In another follow-up question, Newsday editor Rita Ciolli asked Clinton if she had “a list” of women she was considering for positions. Her colleague Filler jokingly added: “Binders?” And all three laughed once again.

    So when Romney suggested hiring more women, he was a sexist, but when Clinton suggests not hiring men, she’s a comedian?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-clinton-laughs-at-idea-of-letting-men-into-her-cabinet/article/2588408

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  105. Cill says:

    “Post at 1201am Friday Patriarch time you do?”

    Already a post scheduled for 12:01am Friday Patriarch time FB he has

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  106. Yoda says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/13/what-women-really-want-is-the-patriarchy/

    Women are now told from basically grade school through early adulthood that they can do anything, be anything, have anything—with a woman or a man, with anyone or no one—as long as they work hard, lean on girl power, and berate or at least eschew any notions of patriarchal reverence. See Gloria Steinem’s famous “women need men like a fish needs a bicycle.”*

    You’ve seen this happen in real life, and if you look at the statistics, women are actually putting this into practice: Over the past few decades, more women than men are going to college and getting higher degrees. Then they’re purchasing homes and putting off marriage and babies. Guess what: They’re miserable. (As Donald Trump would say, “Sad!”)

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  107. Yoda says:

    Move that post one could.
    Any delay would hurt it not

    Like

  108. Cill says:

    .
    A WC with a locked door ?

    Mister Patriarch, tear down this door

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  109. Yoda says:

    From above link,

    Two women I know took entirely different paths and responded differently on this spectrum: The first bought into the feminist mantra hook, line, and sinker, scoffed at strong alpha males who were opinionated, direct—even demanding. She married a softer, but more romantic man who would do whatever she wanted at the drop of a hat.

    The second dutifully married a more direct, straightforward man, however demanding and borderline-misogynist he was. Fast-forward a few years; both women had two kids. Guess which one is happier? The former’s husband has become so passive-aggressive that the family’s finances are in disarray and their sex life is nonexistent. The latter found a synergy with her husband most of my friends hardly recognize: They’re working towards familial goals, have hot, regular sex, and he’s compromised and become less of a demanding jerk. Guess that patriarchy thing works out sometimes?

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  110. Yoda says:

    As a cis- heteronormative verdish alien I claim all my victimesque rights I do.
    Unlock the WC door you must.
    Gotta “go” I do

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  111. Cill says:

    “Move that post one could”

    okay

    Like

  112. Cill says:

    Perhaps the Patriarch dwells in the WC he does.
    Gloriously engaged therein he might be.

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  113. Liz says:

    http://www.gq.com/story/efren-style-instagram-househusband-interview

    When I saw the first photo I honestly thought it was a plastic doll, not a real human person.

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  114. SFC Ton says:

    LOL at women being taught morality; every experiment, across the ages and cultures with women as full moral agents has failed. Any culture that started off that way has been replaced or never got much past the stone age

    Reality might suck but its better for you in the long run

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  115. Spawny Get says:

    “Reality might suck but its better for you in the long run”

    My feelings exactly

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    Thine Glorious Patriarch is spending a lot of time in the kitchen

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  117. Dragonfly says:

    Yikes Liz!!!!! LOL

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  118. Liz says:

    Molly mentioned how much these ne WordPress emoticons suck.
    I will second, and third that. The wink is just weird. The tongue emoticon is downright lewd.
    I’m going to print these emoticons out, put them on a noose and burn them in effigy.
    That’s right. I’m contemplating premeditated emoticonicide.
    AND I’ll invent my own durn emoticons.

    @:(|)

    Bam! Dat is how I represent, yo!

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  119. Ame says:

    Liz – lol!
    i’m going to get addicted to needing my “Liz-Fix” everyday! 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Liked by 3 people

  120. Liz says:

    Hurray! I love addictive personalities.
    I’m one too. 😀

    Liked by 2 people

  121. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Burn emoticonsz in effigy? Won’t they scream?
    If you can find a way, would you make some burrito emoticons?

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  122. Dragonfly says:

    Ame, don’t get addicted (even though it’s probably already too late)!!! She’s leaving us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  123. Liz says:

    Hence, my internet habit…
    And the way I blab…
    And, er blab.
    🙂

    Liked by 1 person

  124. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    So, if Hillary is sexist, it’s funny?
    Do not let that womena anywhere near the nuclear football!

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  125. Liz says:

    “Burn emoticonsz in effigy? Won’t they scream?”

    I would certainly hope so Fuzzie.

    Dragonfly, I will be back. 🙂

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  126. Ame says:

    oh, no! Liz? You’re leaving? for how long? noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

    okay … okay … breathing … i’ll need a replacement for when you’re gone 😉

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  127. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That may not be a demonstration of alpha. Obtaining permisssion from a female therapist to have a weekend affair once a year? While the wife is never “in the mood”?
    It seems to me that an alpha would have walked away some time ago.

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  128. Ame says:

    Fuzzie – that makes me wonder … do not you men get tired of there being so many females in fields of medicine? do you prefer male doctors, male therapists, to female? it seems females so flood every freakin area of life you just can’t get away from them.

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  129. Liz says:

    How long? Well, if you’re over forty like me it’s just the blink of an eye!
    Two short years of adventure.
    We going into the wild to live off the land. Like Thoreau.
    The boys will hunt and fish.
    I will take up whittling and fabric weaving.
    We are bringing a supply of iguanas because they are prolific enough to take over everything in the native environment wherever they are, and then they all conveniently fall out of the trees when it freezes over!
    This will ensure we always have fresh meat available (iguana tastes like a cross between chicken and venison, I am told).

    …okay, really, we’re just moving for Mike’s job.
    And he has asked me not to post online during that time because, well, as i mentioned above I blab. 🙂

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  130. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    Women who choose a counselor for couples want one that is sympathetic. That way, it ia always his fault. I wouldn’t know about anything else.

    Liz,
    We are all going to miss you! You reminded me of one of the few posts where Robt. E. Lee brought his family- Superintendent at West Point.

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  131. Ame says:

    well … that former sounded really cool! but the latter’s good, too 🙂

    when do you go off-line?

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  132. Ame says:

    Fuzzie – i would definitely agree, esp w/marriage, man/woman relationships.

    it was very hard but definitely necessary for me to have a male therapist when i worked through all that mess. the one time i switched for a short while to a female counselor was when i finally had to work through some of the sex stuff from the abuse … i just could.not.talk.about.that. with a male counselor, and he totally understood.

    my girls have been to both female and male counselors over the years, as needed. i think there’s a place for female counselors … but if a woman or man wants help with male/female relationship issues, i really think a male counselor is necessary.

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  133. Liz says:

    “when do you go off-line?”

    Sometime in the summer. I mentioned it at Bloom’s only because I didn’t want anyone to worry about my whereabouts when I disappear. BV disappeared for a while once, and I was worried, and then it turned out he was in an accident.
    So…just wanted to give folks the heads up in advance. 🙂

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  134. Ame says:

    thanks – how long to you plan to be out?

    Like

  135. Liz says:

    Two years.

    Liked by 1 person

  136. Ame says:

    wow. so that part was true! prepare for withdrawls 😉

    Liked by 1 person

  137. Liz says:

    Heck yah parts were true.
    I ain’t no third rate rookie yarn spinner.
    If you tell a tale, mix it up with the truth. Ask any Italian. 🙂

    (iguanas really do fall out of trees when it freezes, and they really do taste like a cross between chicken and venison…at least, according to my sons, who have slain them. I wasn’t involved and wanted nothing to do with that project).

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  138. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I wondered how the iguana experiment worked out.
    Two years? that is a long time! *sad face*

    Liked by 1 person

  139. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Uh oh! Off topic but alarming.

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  140. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If women do follow up on this, and there is nothing to stop them. It is going to be a field day for ambulance chasers. On no more strength that it takes to get an indictment, gold diggers can get a giant payday. BTW, it has been a standing joke among prosecutors that they can all get a ham sandwich indicted for decades.

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  141. SFC Ton says:

    iguana ain’t bad. chicken of the tree

    Fuzzie, women don’t agree to a beta’s infidelity and the fact you can pull more then one bitch at a time speaks to a dudes alpha street cred

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