MGTOW Minions


A common assertion is that MGTOWs should work for themselves.  A common approach is to work at job with modest pay, live together with other fellas to reduce expenses, and not pay taxes because (at least here in the US), poor people do not pay taxes.

Another stated approach is that MGTOWs should make respectable money, but keep it for themselves to be used on enjoyable endeavors.  Of course, if he does this, there will undoubtedly will be taxes.

In actuality there are/will be a whole spectrum of MGTOW approaches, some being aware of the term, but most probably will not.  It is clear however, that their numbers will grow. What are women/government to do?

Since this group will be detached from both women and government, both would probably view them from a minion perspective.  That is, how can useful work and taxes be extracted from them?  I am sure that there will be many creative ways.

There are the usual suspects, bachelor taxes (disguised undoubtedly), but let us get creative here.  How can government/women get what they want?  Think not just in terms of taxes, but in other ways.  You have your assignment, now have at it.

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93 comments on “MGTOW Minions
  1. Tarnished says:

    It may not actually produce anything tangible, but society and government has always been quite against those of us who not only remain single but also childless. After all, we aren’t “doing our part” in using our bodies to create the next generation of taxpayers.

    Nevermind a bachelor tax, which we already have in a way…I’m waiting for the Offspring Tax, where a citizen has to provide medical evidence of natural infertility or significant dangers during pregnancy, lest they be fined for lack of procreation.

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Considering that Japan has a national debt two and half timed their GDP and that two thirds to three quarfters of the young men identiy as haerbivore, you would think their government would be incetivized to find something that works. So far, no. The only thing thaty have tried is to promtoe women.
    In the face of this, government may be helpless.
    The only practical concept thai I can think of would be politically intolerable. That would be to create gulags/work camps that Julie Bindel proposed.

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  3. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve signed up as @Spawny on FreezePeach. Twitter used to be fun back in GamerGate days.

    Also I want to increase their numbers while Twitter drops. FU SJWs

    https://freezepeach.xyz/gdo/all

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  4. Tarnished says:

    The only practical concept that I can think of would be politically morally intolerable. That would be to create gulags/work camps that Julie Bindel proposed dreamed up in a wretched mindstate.

    Fixed it for you, Fuzzie.

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    That Twitter would take Anita Sarkeesian on as a censor is too much.
    If a competitor enlarges as Twitter shrinks, it will not be looked on well by Wall Street.
    Good.

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  6. Tarnished says:

    Lol. You and your love for teh social medias, Spawny. You are very much like my love that way.

    Speaking of which…Chronic depression can go piss up a rope. It hurts that you can’t help someone be whole, no matter how much of yourself you’re willing to give.

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  7. Spawny Get says:

    I’m surprised it took this long. Popcorn, people, get yer loverly popcorn…
    http://louderwithcrowder.com/man-drops-pants-in-womens-bathroom/#.VsZoZ5Cny2c

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  8. Cill says:

    Well, what about a Social Value Scores (SVS) system along the lines of the one being implemented in China, generated by algorithms from data received from CCTV and online activity and points of sale of goods and services? Unlike the China model, the feminist SVS would be weighted against men. The SVS would determine an individual’s entitlements and handouts and programs relating to health, education, welfare, immigration, affirmative action AND… how much Goods and Services Tax a person pays… The points system would entice a man into marriage or LTR and encourage a woman to frivorce her partner. The SVS will be geared to expedite the transfer of wealth from men to women, as well as reward diversity and homosexual behaviour (The SJWs and Fembots are about to OWN you, people!).

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  9. Tarnished says:

    Spawny,

    The thing is, if he’s literally just going in the locker room to drop trou and stand there letting everyone “admire” his penis…that would just be weird, and someone could argue he isn’t actually using the lockers for a legitimate purpose. But so long as he’s at least decently pretending to make real use of the room, no…they can’t do anything about it.

    Again though, trans/dysphoric people are .03% of the US population. There’s not enough of us to warrant making so many normal gendered people uncomfortable. Build a small, separate room if there’s that much call for one in the area, FFS.

    Me? I’d be fine with getting changed next to a person with a penis so long as they respect common physical boundaries. But then, I also am not the type to think Man = Rapist.

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  10. Cill says:

    Now hold on a minute, I’m going to assign the appropriate pronoun to myself and use whichever locker I damn well please.

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  11. Cill says:

    I shall also insist that it be a safe space within which I can flagrantly flaunt myself without feeling threatened.

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    The problem with any scheme to tax MGTOWs is that it is very difficult to get blood out of a turnip. That is, presuming most MGTOWs will be living minimally. Also, at present, most taxes tax income or outgo through sales or VAT.
    I liked the Crowder link. It’s good to see typical women angered by feminist/SJW foolishness.

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  13. Re the locker room, why these new rules are an exhibitionist’s and/or voyer’s dream come true!!!

    Ok maybe I am super modest but I don’t even like changing in a room full of strange women, much less one w mixed company. And I’d be seriously upset were this guy to drop trouser in front of the Bloomettes, for example. They don’t need to see that!

    At the pool we visit boys over the age of six are not allowed in the women’s locker room. There are several smaller “family changing rooms” for families of mixed males and females to change, potty, shower, etc in if they wish.

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Ancient Rome had public toilets that were unisex with no provision for privacy. They had to be built that way because all waste went into a trough that was constantly flushed with running water. Had they built sperate facilities for men and women that would only allow for half as many locations.
    Dealing with waste was the limiting factor in the size of cities. Rome was the first to exceed one million.

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  15. Cill says:

    True Fuzzy. The SVS would be a surcharge on the GST (currently known as VAT in UK) levied on all Goods and Services – which covers just about every type of transaction.

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  16. Yoda says:

    Perhaps issue overalls to all men they will.

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  17. Tarnished says:

    Ancient Rome had public toilets that were unisex with no provision for privacy.

    True, Fuzzie.
    As I mentioned previously, the college I attended was very hippie-ish and so uber-Progressive that Ton might actually expire were he to step on the campus itself. Regardless, we had a few unisex bathrooms, with both stalls and urinals. I used them from time to time, and yes, with people of either sex. Nothing bad ever happened. I didn’t have to deal with any leering men (or women) because for Gods’ sakes…it’s a frickin’ bathroom. You go in, do what you gotta do, and leave.

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  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Toda,
    If overalls are issued to all men, women will want to wear them.
    I know, I know. It soesn’t make any sense but, it always seems to turn out that way.
    If you can find a funny Minion video, I will work on a bear video.

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  19. Tarnished says:

    There are several smaller “family changing rooms” for families of mixed males and females to change, potty, shower, etc in if they wish.

    See? Something similar to this setup would be more than acceptable, rather than making the majority of men and women uncomfortable. And Bloom makes a good point that adults (yes, male and female alike) could bend these new rules to a perverted use. Hell, reasons like this are why some nudist camps do background checks on members…no scummy people allowed, thank you very much.

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  20. Tarnished says:

    If overalls are issued to all men, women will want to wear them.

    Nope. No desire for overalls whatsoever. Pants with shoulder straps? Lol.

    Last time I had to wear overalls, they were made of rubber, it was for a Bio field trip, and we were in a swamp.

    Cill,
    I’m afraid that if you mention your idea too often, it will be put to use. 😦

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  21. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Promised bear vidseo. This one is usually a hit with mothers of sons.

    Tarn,
    I think the unisex bathrooms came into being so that people with disabilities could be helped by their attendants of the opposite sex.
    Years ago, I travelled overseas to a place where it was normal for bathrooms to be combined. At the entrance, there was a trough for men to urinate into. I was unnerved by a cute women who took too close an interest.

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  22. Yoda says:

    the college I attended was very hippie-ish and so uber-Progressive that Ton might actually expire were he to step on the campus itself.

    A college full of Lena Dunhams do that it might

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  23. Yoda says:

    Cill’s Social Value Scores approach lead the way it might.
    Surveillance state so easy to do now it would be

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  24. Yoda says:

    Last time I had to wear overalls, they were made of rubber, it was for a Bio field trip, and we were in a swamp.

    Remember this I do.
    Penetrate them I could not

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  25. Cill says:

    “I’m afraid that if you mention your idea too often, it will be put to use”
    Tarn as you know I have a lot of friends in China. I hear on the grapevine that western SJWs are more than a little interested in China’s SVS (which they call the Social Credit System).

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  26. Yoda says:

    Sometimes naughty I am

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  27. Cill says:

    Hey Tarn you’ve got me thinking… how would I feel if they do read it and name it after me? “Cill’s Social Value System” or simply “Cill”.

    “That will be 100 dollars, sir, GST and Cill inclusive.”

    Ruddy Nora, I better kill that post…

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  28. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    That SJWs would take interest in SVS scares me. It would make totalitarianis too easy. SJWs, along with feminists, are socialist and totalitarian. Not a good mix and one that weh have seen fail.

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  29. Tarnished says:

    I hear on the grapevine that western SJWs are more than a little interested in China’s SVS (which they call the Social Credit System).

    Oh? I bet they’re interested in Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, and 1984, too…

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Mike Cernovitch, who is an attorney, on Roosh’s possible suit.

    http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/02/18/the-roosh-rape-hoax-and-defamation-lawsuits/

    Like

  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    All those things you mentioned are things to be avoided. These wacky SJWs want to utilize them.

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  32. Tarnished says:

    Ruddy Nora, I better kill that post…

    Kill it before it lays eggs.

    Like

  33. Tarnished says:

    Sometimes naughty I am

    Only about 21% of the time.
    However, with practice, I’m confident that you could get that number up to a full 35%.

    Remember this I do.
    Penetrate them I could not.

    That’s what you get for training a whiny, semi-incestuous, desert-dweller who looks down the barrel of a powered off lightsaber in the ways of the Force instead of a Unicorn.

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  34. Cill says:

    I just had a look at the blog stats for the SVS post. The number of views might be higher than normal for a low-medium interest article. What do you think, Tarn?

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  35. Cill says:

    I don’t seriously expect a serious answer to the above 😉

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  36. Tarnished says:

    I don’t seriously expect a serious answer to the above

    That’s good, because I’m still reeling from the fact that our brother Blurkel has returned to us. 😀

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  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    To get back to the original post, government is going to have a hard time trying to get men to come back. To add to that, every time government has tried to institute social change through legislation, it has backfired and badly.
    I have heard people theorize about dowries or other finanacial inducements to marry. How much would it take to offset losing half your assets in half the marriages? That is only one aspect.

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  38. molly says:

    Fuz 🌯 zie 🌯 wuz 🌯 zie 🐻 🌯 Hi-dee-hi!!

    I’m at Cill’s “old” paradise enjoying Cill’s company and Dog. We’re on the lawn and Horse’s big face is close is he can get to us over the rail. I had a ride on Horse. I always ride him when I come here.

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  39. molly says:

    We’re on beach chairs under the Pohutukawa tree on top of the cliff. Cill drinks scotch as I drink home pressed juice from the fruit trees. Heaven! 🙂

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  40. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄
    Dog and Horse really like you. It good to have the confidence of animals. They know.

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  41. molly says:

    Sumo might join us later, or he might just need some space. Never trespass on a man’s space. It’s a hard rule for me, especially with my beau and fab fav cuz. 😉

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  42. Tarnished says:

    Molly is also lucky to have such strong family bonds. I read hers and Cill’s comments, like the one above, and can’t help but wonder what it’d be like actually enjoying being around one’s blood kin. Or just not have to play referee to their instigating and drama every 20 minutes, lol.

    Cheers to Molly and Cill. 🍻 May your family always be safe and close.

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  43. molly says:

    Wonder if Tarn is around? Tarn is so cool! Yoohoo Tar-arn! 😀
    (Let’s play hide and seek with Tarn heh heh)

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  44. molly says:

    It’s real relaxing and trustful. 🙂

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  45. Tarnished says:

    Space is a requirement for introverts in general, Molly. Without our little quiet sanctuaries away from people, we get stressed. Sometimes extroverted folk forget that, since their batteries recharge by being in the spotlight. 😊🌟

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  46. Cill says:

    It’s sheer hell actually, Tarn. Buckets of water thrown on me when I’m lolling around in the shade minding my own business, my hands and feet trussed to the chair when I’m asleep… there is no end to it. All a man wants is some peace…

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  47. Tarnished says:

    It’s real relaxing and trustful.

    I have that with my friends.
    Friends = the family you choose.

    Let’s play hide and seek with Tarn

    Heh. I think you found me. 😉
    Then again, I’m just sitting on my couch with a tea, a book, and a sleeping cockatiel on my knee, so it’s not as though I’m runnin’ around.

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  48. Tarnished says:

    All a man wants is some peace…

    So true. Just a little time to yourself.

    I must say though, these are 2 very conflicting stories. Unless Molly’s idea of “relaxing” is lugging around buckets of water to douse you with?

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  49. Tarnished says:

    Alright mates, it’s midnight here. I’ve got a 13 hour shift tomorrow because I’m too nice stupid and said yes to covering for a coworker’s shift after my own. So I’m going to bid everyone a pleasant…whatever time slot they’re in. Cheers. 🍺

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  50. Cill says:

    Goodnight Tarn. We’ve been talking to a visitor, who boated in here. Sleep well, my friend.

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  51. molly says:

    Nice peaceful sleep Tarn!

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  52. molly says:

    Tarn I hope u read this! 😉 I only chuck buckets of water when we are all goofing off, like about twice in my life, and I only tied him to the chair once. Lol

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  53. Sumo says:

    Sumo might join us later, or he might just need some space

    I hope y’all understand that I don’t consider interacting with you to be difficult or onerous; it’s just that after performing for hours for total strangers, I have trouble thinking up anything witty to say here.

    In other words, I blew my wad and need time to recharge. 😉

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  54. molly says:

    Like Cill @ 10:05 PM sound asleep on a beach chair outside. Out and I mean OUT! Let them sleep and recharge.

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  55. “Sound asleep on a beach chair…”

    Ahhh summer, I kinda remember that….. 🙂

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  56. SFC Ton says:

    Let the Ton break this shit down to you

    Short of concentration camps there is a limit to what governments can get out of people. Work was pretty inefficient in the USSR despite secret police, gulags and what not

    Forget the name of the concept but it runs like this
    if the tax rate is 0% tax revenue is 0
    if the tax rate is 100% tax revenue is 0

    governments fiddle with the tax rate trying to find the perfect number on that 0-100% line

    people who call the shots are very aware of that concept so they love the stealth taxes. Obama Care is an example of that stealth tax, taxing men more, sliding more resources to women without it being a direct tax on me. There are a shit ton of those types of taxes that break down along racial lines. Tad bit more difficult to do so along the battle of the sexes line

    the Western govts do not give a fuck about birth rates; they will happily replace Whites with third world people who are much easier to control in most circumstances

    So not very likely to see direct taxes on women who don’t fulfill their tribal obligations or men who don’t marry and the ablity to do so by stealth is rather limited. on the war between the sexes front. Near on limitless on the low intensity race war front, and some times the two go hand in hand… like the way we fund public education

    Pure speculation here but…. I am not so sure the people who call the shots give a shit about tax revenue the same way honest folks do. They basically pay none themselves and see the national treasury as something to loot. Since they don’t pay the price of left wing ideology Detroit is perfectly acceptable. So if X amount of money comes from 100 million prosperous and thriving people or from 600 million living in squalor its all the same same to them

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  57. Yoda says:

    Something that Emperor Palpatine come up with he might.
    And on your Earth a certain dictator from the past it does remind of?
    Hmmm?

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  58. Yoda says:

    Wonder if that winged and robed angel in above picture Merkel she is supposed to be

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  59. SFC Ton says:

    as for work clothes overalls are the SHIT! nothing beats them for comfort or convenience

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  60. Yoda says:

    Milo,

    Milo Yiannopoulos attended the University of Minnesota on Wednesday to deliver a joint-talk with American Enterprise Institute scholar Christina Hoff Sommers, during which he dispelled the gender pay gap myth, debated sexual consent on campuses, and was protested by a group of the misinformed armed with air-horn sirens. Yiannopoulos also declared during the speech that third-wave feminists were waging war against working-class men.

    “It’s as much a class war as it is a gender war” stated Yiannopoulos. “Much of it is perpetrated by white middle-class women who are the most privileged group in the history of our civilisation, of our species. They are the most privileged people ever to have lived[…] sort of waging war on working-class men. Now most of my readers fall into that second category, and I see the sort of injustice perpetrated on them and the sort of language used about them.”

    “And I see parallels in the way that the Republican establishment talks about their own voters, about its own base,” he elaborated. “You’ve got Rick Wilson, this GOP strategist, going on Fox News and saying that these are all anime-watching weirdoes, and I just think to myself, you know what Rick Wilson, fuck you.”

    “I see feminism in very much the same way,” he declared. “It is a sort of class hatred and class hostility perpetrated by well-fed, well-educated coastal bloggers on all the rest of us.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/02/18/milo-feminists-are-waging-war-on-working-class-men/

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    The whole speech and question session

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  62. Yoda says:

    Declare myself to be this I will not.
    Not even in 900 more years I would.

    At a Democratic town hall in Las Vegas, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders declared himself not only a “strong feminist,” but also an “honorary woman,” a distinction given to him by feminist icon Gloria Steinem.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/18/bernie-sanders-declares-he-is-a-strong-feminist-and-honorary-woman/

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  63. Yoda says:

    Done much good claims she has,

    “Were you appalled by your behavior when you watched the video?” Werner asked Click.

    “I was embarrassed by my behavior. I believe it doesn’t represent who I am as a person,” Click said. “It doesn’t represent the good I was doing there that day, and you know, certainly I wish I could do it over again.”

    Click said she was trying to protect the protesting students, who she said were under threat, and wasn’t sure the man filming was a real journalist.

    “He introduced himself only as media, and came at me with a camera,” Click said.

    It’s worth pointing out at this juncture that this took place on public property. The journalist had no need to validate his access to the university grounds, not to Click or anyone else. Click tries to imply something sinister by saying that the student “came at me with a camera,” but all he did was walk up to the protest encampment. In fact, it was Click who wanted to push him out by finding “some muscle” to come at him. He had every right to access that property — as much right as the protesters had, regardless of whether he was “media” or not.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/02/18/mizzou-prof-youre-missing-all-the-good-ive-done/

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  64. Spawny Get says:

    “Mizzou prof: You’re missing all the good I’ve done”

    I can imagine that this would be very easy to do. Coxic entitled tunt that she is, I doubt she’s ever done much good. Has she been given the Order of the Boot yet?

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    “an “honorary woman”…a distinction given to him by feminist icon Gloria Steinem.”

    Some recommendations are best left off of one’s CV

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    My comment including this
    http://louderwithcrowder.com/man-drops-pants-in-womens-bathroom/#.VsZoZ5Cny2c
    was intended to reflect that when you create ridiculous laws based on crazy bullshit, you should expect to have those laws trolled. I congratulate the guy who did it (as long as no kids saw any naughty bits), I hope that his exposure of the issue lead to a rethink of the stupid law.

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  67. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I was thinking happy thoughts about Bernie Sanders after reading that comment about the dating site. Somebody has to post a fake profile of Gloria Steinem> 😛
    Then I read the one about his decaring himself a feminist. :/
    Bernie, you’re either a feminist or a Democrat. You cant’r be both
    Now, I am going to watch the Milo/ Sommers video to confirm my allegation.

    I am glad that Milo is saying these things now, before we get to vote in primaries.
    I am glad that Mil is making campus feminist twits crazy. We need more videos!

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  68. Spawny Get says:


    Police ask a trumatised Dave to show him on the puppet what the nasty EU people did to him.
    http://order-order.com/2016/02/19/friday-caption-contest-eu-puppet-edition/

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  69. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    That Milo/Sommers video was a great watch. Lots of pearls of wisdom.
    It is good that he is out there saying this stuff.

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Bernie, you’re either a feminist or a Democrat. You cant’r be both

    Have you lost your mind bear? Literally the silliest thing I’ve read in a goodly while

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    Who do you think will be made to pay for all the advances that feminism wants? Who do you think has been made to pay for what they already have?
    The answer is working men and their families. The current Democrats have sold them out. That is why Democrats who claim to be feminist are not democrats.

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  72. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t think the EU could offer anything to make the deal sweet enough to be viable. It seems that negotiating would be an exercise in futility. Unless, someone in Brussels is making very good sandwiches for the North Pole Penguin.

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  73. Yoda says:

    Police ask a trumatised Dave to show him on the puppet what the nasty EU people did to him.

    Photographed in the Arse Ward of the Hospital it was?

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  74. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Wandering back to the point of the original post, I can’t think of a way, short of coercion, to make MGTOWs restore the “Patriarchy Dividend” to a society that detests men.

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  75. Spawny Get says:

    BBC Ban Staff From Making Programs Until Theyve Learned Not to Fake Footage
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/19/3084506/

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  76. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I watcha lot of BBC documentaries. Until I read that link, I never doubted their credibility. Stuff like this sounds more like Monty Python.

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  77. SFC Ton says:

    as if either party gave a fuck about working men. at any point in time

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  78. Yoda says:

    as if either party gave a fuck about working men. at any point in time

    Striong with the Force Ton is.
    Write post about this tonight going to I was.
    Appear next week it might

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  79. Yoda says:

    Angela Merkel’s daughter on the left it is?

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  80. SFC Ton says:

    George Washington waged war on small scale whisky makers on behalf on a tax that benefited wealthy/ large scale distillers

    all of them are rotten to the core

    TRP is about truth not fairy tales and grown men should be grounded in truth not flights of fancy

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  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    Politicians valued workers until abtil, about the eighties, when consumers became a more powerful lobby. Since then, neither government or corporate America seems to care if we produce anything. Prior to that, workers were seen to be the source of production in the economy, Through their labor, value was created fueling the economy.
    Now, it’s how much people can spend on Chinese junk sold at Wal Mart.

    Speaking of which. The only positive voices for workers are people opposing WalMarts opening because the community will have to carry the poorly paid workers.

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  82. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    At that time,George Washington was the largest distiller in America. He paid his taxes. Those involved ine Whiskey Rebellion were Piedmont farmers. They couldn’t get their grain to market via water transport as the Tidewater farmers could. The way for them to generate cash on their produce was to distill whiskey frome their corn and take that to market via wagons. I would think that thet was their only source of cash and it netted out to very little. No margin for taxes.

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  83. Yoda says:

    Perhaps a simple “no” she could have said


    PELLEY: You know, in ’76, Jimmy Carter famously said, “I will not lie to you.”
    CLINTON: Well, I have to tell you I have tried in every way I know how literally from my years as a young lawyer all the way through my time as secretary of state to level with the American people.

    PELLEY: You talk about leveling with the American people. Have you always told the truth?

    CLINTON: I’ve always tried to. Always. Always.

    PELLEY: Some people are gonna call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself.

    CLINTON: Well, no, I’ve always tried —

    PELLEY: I mean, Jimmy Carter said, “I will never lie to you.”

    CLINTON: Well, but, you know, you’re asking me to say, “Have I ever?” I don’t believe I ever have. I don’t believe I ever have. I don’t believe I ever will. I’m gonna do the best I can to level with the American people.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/19/hillary-clinton-no-good-very-bad-terrible-answer-on-telling-the-truth/

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  84. Liz says:

    Wow, I started to watch that Milo video and really liked it but stopped around twelve minutes into it, Spawny. That audience is unbelieveably disruptive!
    Were they that way the entire hour+ ?

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  85. Spawny Get says:

    Liz, no. They interrupted badly once. You probably got through the worst. Only Milo had trouble.

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    I’ll confirm. There were a few small incidents after that one guy with the air horn but, it was very peaceful overall. Curiously, they were all male. I can’t understand male feminists.

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  87. Yoda says:

    A new post there is

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  88. SFC Ton says:

    Fuzzie how naive can you be?

    The tax rate was lower for larger distillers; it was meant to cut down on the competition as much as generate revune

    then look at how immigration hurt working class wages and what not ….

    no the system and every system is always set to favor the wealthy etc over the working class/ middle class people

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