Red Pill Classroom — Inner Game

Recently Deti commented on the game post,

“How effective is Game?” It’s effective, but only short term. I think that’s what the PUAs like Krauser, Roissy, Roosh, Neil Strauss, Mystery, etc. found out. It’s also unsatisfying in the long term. Just ask Strauss, Roosh and Mystery.

Game isn’t the problem; the problem is the PUA’s relationship to Game. Game isn’t part of his life; it isn’t who he is. He acts the part of the masculine man; it’s a set of clothes he puts on. But it isn’t part of him. It isn’t what he internalizes. That’s why the focus has been shifting away from Game per se and toward masculinity. Game can’t be something you do; it has to be something you ARE. Because if a man isn’t masculine; if he isn’t truly outcome independent, if he doesn’t truly believe he’s a prize; if he doesn’t truly believe that he’ll be OK if his wife leaves, then it’s just something he does

And this brings us to what has been termed inner game.  What is it?  Well, it mainly just improvement with some packaging.

Women who look for marriage want (ideally at least) characteristics that lead to long term financial (and other) stability.  This means aspects like education, career,  skills (hopefully in many areas), good judgement, etc.  For a regular somewhat ambitious man, these are thing that he undoubtedly would work on anyway.  The idea is that all through  life,  a man developing these skills can package them up in a commensurate package of confidence (akin to for lack of a better term, “outer game”) and win the fair maiden.

Of course, if there are no fair maidens to be found, he still has the developed attributes, which can be mighty useful for MGTOW purposes.

So what is not to like?  Develop yourself young man.  Personal growth is the future, not plastics( a joke for the somewhat older set).  Furthermore, personal growth cannot be taken from you.

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88 comments on “Red Pill Classroom — Inner Game
  1. Tarnished says:

    Furthermore, personal growth cannot be taken from you.

    So very true! This is why it is important for everyone to strive to be the best they can be. Of course, many will be too lazy to do so, especially women who are told “you’re perfect as is, no matter what” all the time. But hey…makes it easier for men and non-princess women to have better, happier/more content lives!

    You reading this, Fuzzie bear? It’s good advice!

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  2. molly says:

    Are women worth men acting a part for? Boys grow up masculine by being with masculine men. They can’t learn it so well from blogs or books.

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  3. Sumo says:

    Develop yourself young man.

    Truth. SumoDaddy taught me a lot of things, such as the basics of electrical wiring, carpentry, plumbing and the like, but everything else, I learned on my own initiative – martial arts, how to cook, how to braid bullwhips, etc.

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  4. molly says:

    Was your dad a masculine man, Sumo?

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  5. molly says:

    I asked the wrong question. 😐 Your dad gave you the basics and you could make yourself as self-sufficient as you want. It gave you confidence you could do more and that will show through. People will see your confidence yet not be able to put it into words (except wee molly heh heh).

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  6. molly says:

    I see it in the young men who Cill helps (some violent). He lets them follow him from task to task and learn building, mechanical, plumbing, electrical, farming, fishing. Soon they can’t wait for their next lesson.

    They learn to survive better than most people, and get confidence and self-assurance. Their talk and walk change, so they get jobs much easier. Some are now well off tradesmen, like Tom the Maori. They are confident and independent, manly qualities.

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  7. molly says:

    Heh I changed the color of Cill’s eye! 😀 He let me make it more like his and it worked! Now it’s s-p-o-o-k-i-l-y like IRL lol
    (I can’t wait till he sees it 😉 )

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  8. Sumo says:

    I suppose it depends on your definition of “masculine”, Molls. SumoDaddy got up every day and worked his ass off to provide for his family (still does, at 73 years old), but he wasn’t a beer-chugging, ass-kicking walking nightmare like his only son. He never offered a complaint (that I know of) about his life, and as you so eloquently put it, he provided me with a foundation of confidence that enabled me to forge my own path.

    I would consider him to be masculine, but I can accept that other people might not.

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  9. Spawny Get says:

    The Furby is back!
    I would offer to high five you, but clearly…

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    You can high five me! I am glad for the return of the Rainbow Furby! 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

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  11. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Practically all of the advice I have recieved in my life deserves to be in the septic tank.
    Most of it has ben directly contridictory.
    That women need to be “gamed” should tell me something. Roosh seems to think it’s all about being an entertaining clown. He has gone so far to say, that in th the near future, men won’t be able to get a date without first having had satifying, according to her, sex.

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  12. Tarnished says:

    I would consider him to be masculine, but I can accept that other people might not.

    There’s different types of masculinity to be had, it’s not necessarily a One Size Fits All definition. After all, look at the male commenters here, yourself included.

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  13. Liz says:

    FWIW, just something to think about in the future…if the hair is anything between shoulder to chin length it covers the ears and it is still short enough to not be “in the way”. 🙂
    I’ve mentioned before Mike prefers shortish hair to long hair (the “edgy” cut somewhere between the chin and shoulders). It looks good and still feminine that way.

    As you might guess…the ex had hair down to her waist really full hair she’d spend about two hours on every day.

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  14. Liz says:

    Oops….wrong thread!


  15. Tarnished says:

    Practically all of the advice I have recieved in my life deserves to be in the septic tank.

    I know, Fuzzie.
    But at least now you’re learning new things. You haven’t given up on life, so there’s still numerous chances to change it into something more your liking.

    Most of it has been directly contridictory.

    Meant for a different time and type of woman, probably.

    That women need to be “gamed” should tell me something. Roosh seems to think it’s all about being an entertaining clown.

    Well, you know what I think (or don’t think) of Roosh…I can appreciate he may have insights that help *you* though.

    “Game” is one of those topics I’m still very unsure about. I’ve had guys try to use PUA tactics on me, and they either just fall flat or make me chuckle because of how annoying/obvious they are. Thing is, I have seen Game work on women, but they tend to be the external-locus-of-identity type. The kind whose concept of “self”-esteem actually relies very heavily on how men and other women perceive her.

    As you can see in my most recent comment to Ton, that’s hardly my own mindset. I *know* I have worth as a person, and as a good one too. If 25%, 50%, or even 80% of people can’t see it…oh well. No skin off my nose. We can’t see ultraviolet light either, but that is certainly there. 😉

    For men to become as Roosh predicts would be folly. Some already are, and it is painful to see. Men need to understand that making oneself into an “entertainer”, is just going to decrease your self worth. Is the chance (not even a guarantee) of getting laid or having a relationship honestly worth the cost of your dignity? Is being a clown who gets female attention a fair trade off for your pride?

    I’m not a man, not physically, which matters a hell of a lot more than I’d like it to, but even I can see the end result of such a path. Before beginning the trek down it, real men need to get it through their heads that there is another option.

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  16. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It seems as if men have to do more and more to get attention, a lot like being on a treadmill. Why is it that I keep being reminded of all the territory that Nazi Germany acquired before they invaded Poland? The collective patience of men will run out.
    All I wanted when I signed up to OkCupid was to find a girlfriend. Oops!

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  17. Tarnished says:

    Gods damn it, Fuzzie.
    You are making my heart ache. 💔


  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Be of good cheer. Your are not the source of it.

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  19. Tarnished says:

    I realize that.
    But I care about my friends, and you are counted among them.


  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    🌯 🌯 🌯 I think that is all you can safely place on your horn.
    Lot’s of veggies with sour cream and guacamole.

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  21. molly says:

    Fuzzie needs some nice healthy food 😀

    🌯 🌯 🌯 🌯

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  22. ballista74 says:

    New post at my place of general interest to those here:

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  23. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have never had Marmite. From what I have read, it sounds like the most nutritious stuff ever and made from waste from beer brewewrs.
    I have also been told that you love it or hate it. There is no in between.
    Given that bears go for nutritionally dense food, I should try it.

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  24. molly says:

    Fuzzie I’m trying to wean u off of unhealthy burritos
    See me use American “off of”? (heh heh)

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I just read Ballista74’s post. Good stuff.

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    How can burritos be unhealthy? Lots of people are already saying that I am full of beans. It may as well be true.

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  27. molly says:

    Fuzzie look up to 6:06 pm 😉
    I traded Marmite in for burritos!

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  28. Tarnished says:

    Vegetarian burritos?
    Yum! Thanks, Fuzzie.

    I made myself an equally delicious lunch today. Crepe stuffed with sautéed mushrooms and carmelized onions, with melted swiss on top. So good!


  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    How were you able to trade Marmite for burritos? I always thought that, once a comment is published, that is it. You must have Furby magic.

    Food is a good thing. All beings relate to it. That is how we can communicate with animals. They like food too.


  30. Spawny Get says:

    Baked beans are good for your heart,
    The more you eat, the more you fart,
    The more you fart, the better you feel,
    So eat baked beans for every meal

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Here’s another.

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  32. molly says:

    Nice one Unca S! 😀
    I think I first heard it a long long time ago (like when I was 5) lol
    The other one was..

    In 1854
    The Maoris went to war
    They had no guns
    So they used their bums
    In 1854

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    I probably heard it when I was five, youngster.


  34. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Karen Straughan on Jian Ghomeshi. She does get passionate.

    How long has it been since a high profile sex case was legit? They all seem to have been bogus for as long as I remember. Now. the fembots are calling for a whole seperate court system for sex offenses.
    I think we should start prosecuting prosecutors who should know better.

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I am starting to see parallels between GamerGate and Germany’s handling of the refugees.
    It’s not good when governments resort to cesorship.
    This will not end well.

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  36. Farm Boy says:

    When the press and government start censorship, then rumors get treated as fact. This does not for an effective government make.

    Liked by 1 person

  37. Farm Boy says:

    Lefties always seem to have the same impulse to “control the narrative”. Perhaps it is because they cannot make their case using facts, logic and those kind of things.

    Liked by 1 person

  38. Farm Boy says:

    I am starting to see parallels between GamerGate and Germany’s handling of the refugees.

    Did the refugees have large hoop earrings? And look much older than they actually were?

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, what happened to Mary Kellett? Nothing good, I hope. And Vladek?

    Not all scumbags prosper…

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    Are men intimidated by so called smart women, or do they know something that women are not admitting. And what might that something be?

    The truth is, popular media understands my frustration in regards to men and is in the practice of feeding me exactly what they think I want to hear. A prime example of this kind of pandering is the claim that men are less likely to marry smart women.

    Granted, it’s a very easy story to swallow. Women are constantly being told that the reason men are not interested or loose interest is because they are too intimidated, and we often offer ourselves this same explanation. I mean what other reason could a man have for not being madly in love with a woman as fabulous as you? That is a very good question, but unfortunately the answer is not always going to be your super scary smarts.

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    It seems that Marry Kelett is still in business.

    Vladek Filler has been exonerated.

    There is no greater danger to the security of a republic than a malicious prosecutor. A lot of confidence is placed in them and they have an incredible amount of power. Abuse of that power is more corrosive to public confidence than any internal threat I can think of.
    Therefore, when they go bad, no one should cut them any slack.

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    So do boy bears have”inner game”?

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  43. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Speaking of someone who looks older in bad light and wears large hoop earrings.

    ThunderfOOt accounts for $900 million US and only a few minor videos?

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    Do Patriarchs have “inner game”?

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  45. Farm Boy says:

    I wonder if she bought solid gold earrings. And lots of them

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    Ms. Sarkeesian could use some inner game. All I have seen so far is bluster and stuff.

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  47. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    “So do boy bears have ‘inner game’?”
    They are what they are and what they appear to be. That seems to be just fine with the girl bears.
    Something else. There is some serious sexual dimorphism going on. Boy bears are very much larger.

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  48. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I had forgotten about Vladek Filler and Mary Kellett until you mentioned them. Had an ordinary citizen pulled what Marry Kellett did, he would be making little ones out of big ones for a long time. She deserves as much.

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  49. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    We have waited far too long to see the final act of the Anita story. She will crash and burn. It will be spectacular.


  50. molly says:

    Fuzzie.. choice!

    Products of NZ, the best. Manuka is a native bush.

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  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    And you can put both on bread to make sandwiches!


  52. molly says:

    Fuzzie bread for the marmite and honey to spread on

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  53. “Furthermore, personal growth cannot be taken from you.”

    Yep, yep, yep… I am not so sure winning the fair maiden should ever really be the point, though. The fair maiden is a bonus, but not the objective.

    Maybe that’s been said, I have been happily busy elsewhere for the past few days and have fallen behind in comments! But I’ll catch up at 2 a.m. when I wake in the middle of the night for no apparent reason (oh how I miss the days when I slept like a rock as a child…)


  54. errrr, I mean the fair maiden is a bonus, if she’s truly a fair maiden. If she’s just a harpy wench, well then strong inner game will save him from falling for that! Bonus!

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    Ballista’s post,

    “Why do men hate going to church? Because men don’t want to be unjustly vilified as the problem of everything wrong in the church and the world. You don’t need a whole book to answer that. Place the blame where it properly lies.”

    How is it that this common sense, everyday idea is so hard for them to comprehend?

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  56. ballista74 says:

    How is it that this common sense, everyday idea is so hard for them to comprehend?

    Tradition does that. People accept readily what is in the background and don’t question it. The deity of women and the depravity of men has been generally accepted as fact, as much as the sun sets and rises. Ironically, I developed that and part 2 with the same resources as Murrow used for his book. So he should well know better.

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  57. @ fuzzie 12:16, they do say the bigger the hoops, the bigger the ho…

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  58. SFC Ton says:

    anything can be taken from you.

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  59. @ Ton I suppose one could lose personal growth. do you mean by an accident or injury? Or via death? Or that another person can take it from you?

    Mostly one would think another person couldn’t but now that I think about it I suppose they could, either via physical (by injury) or emotional (via mind games) means. Bad people can do this, yes. Yes they can….


  60. SFC Ton says:

    all of the above darling

    you can learn to play the piano then get injured at work and never play again. Or do something dumb like stick your hand in a garbage disposal to retrieve something…. Or have stroke. Or I can break your hands with a hammer.

    This it can never be taken away thing is a huge but popular lie here in the West and it is a terrible thing to believe in. For a lot of reasons but false pride, taking dumb risks and limiting your ablity to enjoy things are on my top three right now

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  61. Yoda says:

    Good to see ballista74 here it would be

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  62. Yoda says:

    Back I am.
    Some communication issues due to Degoba resolved they now are.
    So swampy Degoba is.
    IPhone wet it did become
    But dry it now is

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  63. Yoda says:

    Stir things up he did,

    Among his achievements Donald Trump has now instigated a national conversation about pussy. Before Trump no one would ever have dared utter the word in polite company. Now everyone is talking about it.

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  64. Tarnished says:

    Good to see ballista74 here it would be

    Agreed. Having more viewpoints in the comments section here is good.

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  65. Yoda says:

    Tarn liked the “pussy” comment she did.
    Hee, Hee, hee

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  66. Tarnished says:

    So mature, Yoda. 😉 😀

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  67. molly says:

    It’s dark and the wind is blowing outside. Spooky eh. Only Tom and Choicy have seen Cill’s new paradise. i hope it’s not always secret from me. He doesn’t answer his phone there yet.


  68. SFC Ton says:

    trump supports water boarding? Cool

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  69. Yoda says:

    Endorse her views she does?

    Clinton has hired Zerlina Maxwell. Do you remember her?

    Maxwell has written this: “Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist.” Maxwell said that false accusations “can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused, especially if it is done quickly.”

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  70. Yoda says:

    So mature, Yoda. 😉

    900 years mature it would be

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  71. “It were better that Ten Suspected Witches should escape, than that one Innocent Person should be Condemned.”

    Increase Mather, son of Cotton Mather, condemning the Salem Witch Trials and his father’s participation in sending innocent people to their death as a judge.

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  72. Whoops, I mean father of Cotton Mather, and critic of his son’s role in allowing spectral evidence (supposed visions allowed as evidence) in the Salem Witch Trails.

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  73. Yoda says:

    Change things do,

    Instead of just admitting that he had had an affair with Monica Lewinsky and taking his lumps, Bill lied and hid behind the skirts of his wife and female cabinet members, who had to go out before the cameras and vouch for his veracity, even when it was apparent he was lying.
    Seeing Albright, the first female secretary of state, give cover to President Clinton was a low point in women’s rights. As was the New York Times op-ed by Steinem, arguing that Lewinsky’s will was not violated, so no feminist principles were violated. What about Clinton humiliating his wife and daughter and female cabinet members? What about a president taking advantage of a gargantuan power imbalance with a 22-year-old intern? What about imperiling his party with reckless behavior that put their feminist agenda at risk?
    It rang hollow after the Anita Hill-Clarence Thomas hearings. When it was politically beneficial, the feminists went after Thomas for bad behavior and painted Hill as a victim. And later, when it was politically beneficial, they defended Bill’s bad behavior and stayed mute as Clinton allies mauled his dalliances as trailer trash and stalkers.
    The same feminists who were outraged at the portrayal of Hill by David Brock — then a Clinton foe but now bizarrely head of one of her “super PACs” — as “a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty,” hypocritically went along when Hillary and other defenders of Bill used that same aspersion against Lewinsky.
    Hillary knew that she could count on the complicity of feminist leaders and Democratic women in Congress who liked Bill’s progressive policies on women. And that’s always the ugly Faustian bargain with the Clintons, not only on the sex cover-ups but the money grabs: You can have our bright public service side as long as you accept our dark sketchy side.
    Young women today, though, are playing by a different set of rules. And they don’t like the Clintons setting themselves above the rules.

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  74. Liz says:

    I think Lewinsky was Hillary’s idea.

    “Okay, now that this stuff might really incriminate us (especially me)…it’s time to bring out the blue dress of mistress number 300. Make sure you point your finger at the camera and act very belligerent and defensive, Bubba…”

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  75. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I don’t think that the correlation between earring hoop size and the likelihood of dalliances applies to Anita Sarkeesian. I would be very much surprised if she were sexually active with men.

    Thats for the link about the further adventures of Melissa Click. She should be fired. Off duty misconduct is a valid reason.
    I did like seeing the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile.

    Is Hillary even relavent?

    Molly, do you want us to tell you a story?


  76. Yoda says:

    A new post there is


  77. molly says:

    Fuzzie.. “story”? Heh heh

    I was half asleep at my comment at 5:11 pm.

    Lonely I felt. Awake now happy and not lonely I am.
    For me speaking in Yodish Bloom blame, she started it, eh.
    “Eh” can be a verb, eh.

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  78. Yoda says:

    Eh” can be a verb, eh.

    For a Canadian this would be

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  79. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    For Canadians, of the Eastern sort, it is more like “Ai”.

    Have you been talking to Canadians?
    We’ll tell you a story anytime you want to hear it.


  80. ballista74 says:

    On “personal growth”, one of the things you eventually learn about this life in general is really how vain everything is. While there are good things to do in this life, so much of it comes to nothing. All in this life can be taken from you, and in reality so much of this life comes to absolutely nothing in the end. The best anyone can really do is be a credit to themselves in this world as opposed to a deficit.

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