The Amusement Park Lament


Here is the Dalrock quote related to women’s desires for amusement parks (quoted here frequently),

These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, I think the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land.

They want this all to happen without giving up their freedom; they want to play this out in the context of serial monogamy, so they can feel loved while also claiming their promiscuity is moral. They want to lose control to a string of strangers who have all of the hallmarks of very dangerous men, and they want a promise that this will always end well.

They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They are telling men to build a sort of serial monogamy amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them safely feeling unsafe.

One more thing. As I mentioned above they don’t want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actual amusement park, they want roller coasters to spring up randomly in the same exact circumstances where the real danger they mimic would appear. They want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of control. They want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute. And all they ask is your guarantee that all of this will be safe.

If was only as easy as going to amusement park, evaluating the rides, and choosing the one(s) that appealed to you.  Who wouldn’t want this?  But that is not the way that it works in the sexual amusement park.  There is the problem of finding the ride that works for you.  This can take time and effort.  Let us consider.

It all starts with packaging yourself — slutty clothes, makeup, whatever demeanor that one thinks is attractive.  Then you have to go to places where the guys that you want to notice you might be — bars, nightclubs, beaches, parties, etc.  But this is just the preliminaries, once at location she must size up which men are the ones that she wants.  There are many pretenders afoot, many others that for one reason or another, just wouldn’t tinglate her.  But here comes the lament, “How do I determine which ones will give that thrill of lifetime?”  This is a tough question to answer; and for her, an important one.  She has to do her best based on limited information.  But that is not all, there is more to the challenge: She must compete with all of the other women for what are considered to be the top men.  For because of hypergamy this is the type of man she wants so badly.

So, as you can see, the situation for our heroine can be difficult.  This all requires much more effort and is much more chancy as to the results that a ride on a roller coster at the local amusement park.  Is it any wonder that women would want what Dalrock suggests above?

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159 comments on “The Amusement Park Lament
  1. Tarnished says:

    Is it any wonder that women would want what Dalrock suggests above?

    It is a wonder, definitely…
    One wonders why so many women require this strange combination of fright and security in their lives.

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  2. Tarnished says:

    Uses this Dalrock quote often FB does. Much knowledge to be gained from discussion of it there is.

    Repetition is good sometimes, hmm?

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  3. Yoda says:

    One wonders why so many women require this strange combination of fright and security in their lives.

    Because of the tingles it is
    Always the tingles it would be

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  4. Yoda says:

    Repetition is good sometimes, hmm?

    True this would be.
    Getting through thick skulls sometimes difficult it is.
    Especially when their Ox being gored it is

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  5. Tarnished says:

    Off-topic!

    Saw this on a friend’s Facebook page and immediately thought of Ton:

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  6. Tarnished says:

    Because of the tingles it is
    Always the tingles it would be

    Tingles a physical, mental, and emotional reaction they are?

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  7. Tarnished says:

    …they want a man who can tame their feral self.

    Sounds like this would mean several trips to the vet.

    They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe.

    So they’re to blame for all the tremendously crappy horror movies full of needless jumpscares that do nothing to further the plot that began leaking out in the early 90s? Should’ve known…

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  8. Yoda says:

    crappy horror movies full of needless jumpscares that do nothing to further the plot that began leaking out

    Crappy, leaking out…
    Makes me think of diarrhea it does.
    Perhaps Tarn say something about sex to get the aftertaste of that out she could

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  9. Cill says:

    Is Dalrock speaking from personal experience, or direct observation? Is he experienced in women?

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    Dalrock I think is speaking from watching women.

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  11. Tarnished says:

    Dalrock I think is speaking from watching women.

    *grin*
    So he’s a bird broad watcher?

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  12. Cill says:

    I’ll take the demonstration thanks, Tarn. I’m naive in these matters.

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  13. Tarnished says:

    Is he experienced in women?

    Cill, nobody is ever really experienced in women. That’s like being fluent in a language that changes it’s syntax every 5 minutes.

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  14. Cill says:

    Nevertheless, some are experienced in women, and some not. Some speak as if from experience, when actually they lack it.

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  15. Tarnished says:

    I’ll take the demonstration thanks, Tarn.
    Here ya go, Cill.

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  16. Tarnished says:

    Some speak as if from experience, when actually they lack it.

    Seen many occasions of this in real life, or just online?

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  17. Cill says:

    I already know every detail of that demo, thanks Tarn. It was written by a Kiwi you know. Who else could so accurately and vividly recall an experience with a woman in front of midget-dicked white statues??

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  18. Tarnished says:

    I…don’t know how to respond to that. 😂

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  19. Cill says:

    “These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha”. I doubt that many women want to build a better beta.

    “they want to tame the alpha”. Agreed, but then he seems to think alphas are a danger to women, so much so that women are playing with fire in being with alphas.. A different way of looking at it is, women don’t want to risk being alone against danger. They want to be with a man who makes them feel safe. The fright > security allure is a thing, but I don’t think it’s the main driving force for most women.

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  20. Cill says:

    The fright > security allure:

    It definitely exists. I have experienced it directly with the amusing showdowns between “Moehau Man” and curious women on beaches at the end of the world. Women deliberately walking into fright, followed by the relative security of flight, thrillingly repeated several times.

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  21. Cill says:

    “I…don’t know how to respond to that.”
    I was trying to sound like the voice of experience.

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  22. Yoda says:

    The bear missing he is

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  23. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Here I am.
    Molly! 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

    Susan Sarandon did look good then.

    A bad amusement park ride.

    A good amusement park ride.

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    In that video, I couldn’t tell who squealed more, the girls or the pigs?

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    As JUdge Wampner said, “You can sue anybody for anything.”

    http://www.cotwa.info/2016/02/complaining-witnesses-sue-university-of.html

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  26. Yoda says:

    Go to heck they volunteered for

    The minute I heard Ms. Albright’s words, I remembered a bumper sticker on a car my sister once saw. It said, “My mother is a travel agent—specializing in guilt trips.” Guilt trips may induce angst, and they may, initially, produce results, but most of us eventually rebel. Indeed, “You owe me!” is not the most enticing rationale when seeking votes (or anything else, for that matter) from women (or men). In this instance it spawned jokes, with women left and right volunteering to go to hell rather than vote for Ms. Clinton.

    http://acculturated.com/steinem-albright/

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  27. Tarnished says:

    I was trying to sound like the voice of experience.

    Ah, ok. Well, it did make me question what kind of experiences you’d had, Cill. 😉

    Women deliberately walking into fright, followed by the relative security of flight, thrillingly repeated several times.

    In my state, that might be funny to watch. Then again, it may also be a really quick way to get shot, depending on where you are. :/

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  28. Tarnished says:

    I doubt that many women want to build a better beta…“they want to tame the alpha”. Agreed, but then he seems to think alphas are a danger to women, so much so that women are playing with fire in being with alphas…

    I think Dalrock is using the Alpha=Cad/Beta=Good Guy dichotomy, whereas you’re using the Alpha=Leader/Beta=Follower one.

    Remember that the first set of definitions is used more often in the manosphere, especially with men discussing AFBB. Alphas are “bad”, betas are “good”. It’s the first definition I ever came across and is why I initially thought my FwB was a “Beta”…because he’s a really good man. He still is “Beta” using the Leader/Follower definition, but obviously that is different than just being “good” or “bad.

    I doubt that many women want to build a better beta.

    No. They want a man who is an Alpha/Leader. Who makes most of the decisions, is always confident in himself, completes his missions, has rock-like stoicism when his SO needs it, serves as a protector, easily succeeds during shit tests, and stands up for himself.

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  29. SFC Ton says:

    To be a woman is to worry,to be riddled with worries, most quit outlandish.

    alphas provide security but they are also a risk (hence the tingles)
    betas provide a different type of security and a different type of risk

    One of a woman’s drive is for alpha baby batter to spit out kids who will survive to take care of her in her old age.

    A woman also knows she is most likely better at emotional/ psychological warfare then an alpha man so taming one is a pretty good bet. The hard part is landing one. Building a better beta still means he is an icky beta with icky beta baby batter and icky beta sex.

    Thing is, once a woman tames an alpha he is now a beta and she hates him( is there a stronger word then hate? because hate doesn’t do it justice) and she is back to a land of worry and insecurities but this is game plan society, churches, movies etc give women; find alpha and tame said alpha.

    However women are much happier when said alpha tames them, when they are sitting on the floor, between his legs with her arms around one of his legs and her head on his thigh or lap.

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  30. SFC Ton says:

    Nice find Tarn, thank you!

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    You forgot to mention fried ice.

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  32. SFC Ton says:

    My personal story of being a tamed alpha has been gone over way to many times to be worth a fuck these days but… in the bitches be crazy section

    I have this new doggie, an all White lady pit bull, tiny thing like 40-45 pounds. I played the system to have her registered as my PTSD companion animal. I get to take her any where and I do.

    Any rate, yesterday I am walking around with my doggie in the crock of my arm like they do with the rat dog things and a lady in this shop starts to talking to me about the dog. An over weight 40’ish year old woman. At the end she asks me if I date fluffy girls…. like men who dedicate themselves to the gym etc did so to bang old fat bitches. Its a funny story but also demonstrates my next point….

    Women cannot tell the difference between alpha cad and alpha leader. They cannot tell the difference between appearing strong (body building) or being strong (an actual strength athlete); they cannot tell the difference between real wealth ( a lawyer in a BMW with 500k in debt on a 100k a year paycheck) or real wealth ( a plumber with an old beat up truck, 9 employees, three paid off houses and money in the bank). They don’t do reality very well which is why so much of PUA is effective. ie alpha cad works just as well as alpha leader etc. and its much easier to be alpha cad

    any rate, dalrock is a beta chump and anti alpha/ anti masculine unless said masculinity is harnessed in some beta approved/ bitch approved manner. alpha cad is his default setting

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  33. SFC Ton says:

    also if a man wants smp success the bad boy with a heart of gold is probably the easiest trope to pull off

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  34. SFC Ton says:

    also also everything around helps women do the tame the alpha thing
    church, movies, marriage therapy etc etc

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    I do like the image of you walking round with a 45lb pitbull under your arm. That’s a sure sign that you have a fine sense of humour. You should walk into a restaurant packed with ladies who lunch, order a bloody steak for yourself and a rat dog for your companion animal (no need to prepare it, she enjoys a chase)

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  36. Liz says:

    “I do like the image of you walking round with a 45lb pitbull under your arm. That’s a sure sign that you have a fine sense of humour.”

    Hee hee I agree. 😀

    Per the topic: I’m boring as fuck. That’s what I’ve gathered from two + years in the sphere.
    😛

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  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    You’re well grounded but, not boring. Who else has an avatar like yours?

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  38. Liz says:

    Oh SQUEE! Thanks Fuzzie. 😀
    ((big bear hug))

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  39. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tom Cruise may have to improve his game.

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  40. Cill says:

    tarn at 12:44 pm
    alpha/beta:
    cad/good instead of the more widely understood leader/follower = FFS

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  41. Tarnished says:

    Nice find Tarn, thank you!

    ‘welcome, Ton. Thought you would appreciate that.

    is there a stronger word then hate? because hate doesn’t do it justice.

    Loathe? Detest? Abhor?

    alpha/beta:
    cad/good instead of the more widely understood leader/follower = FFS

    I know, I know. But it looks like I was correct given Ton’s 1:01 comment.

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  42. Cill says:

    “Then again, it may also be a really quick way to get shot”
    Oh no, they were risking a fate much much worse than death.

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  43. Yoda says:

    Women cannot tell the difference between alpha cad and alpha leader. They cannot tell the difference between appearing strong (body building) or being strong (an actual strength athlete); they cannot tell the difference between real wealth ( a lawyer in a BMW with 500k in debt on a 100k a year paycheck) or real wealth ( a plumber with an old beat up truck, 9 employees, three paid off houses and money in the bank). They don’t do reality very well which is why so much of PUA is effective. ie alpha cad works just as well as alpha leader etc. and its much easier to be alpha cad

    Describes the situation well this does.
    So probably many more “alpha cad/faker” types there are.
    Target rich environment for Dalrock and others this does make

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  44. SFC Ton says:

    Yea darling them words will work. The typical woman’s attitude toward regular dudes is extremely poor

    what is ffs?

    In full disclosure I don’t carry her like that often. Only when she is misbehaving. It settles her right down. She is a puppy and full of mischief… which I adore, but business can expel you and your service critter if said critter is creating a fuss. You need to remember that I live right outside one of the most exclusive golf courses in the usa to get the full effect of most of my hijinxes. I do my carrying on’s around a large number of older, affluent people, who seem to appreciate it all. One day I was shooting the shit with this old guy and his wife about bikes only to remember the name. He was a CFO of a Fortune 500 company back in the day. And really more like a Fortune 40, but he is of the generation where there wasn’t the huge rift in common interests between the wealthy and middle class. It isn’t the older moneyed people who are snotty. Its the younger ones.

    I still have Girl and love her dearly but she has to remain at Camp Ton. My new dog goes everywhere with me. She has her name sewn on to the passenger seat cover in y truck, her own reserved stool at the bar and her own chair at the garage. Which all happens to be relatively good marketing as well.

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  45. Yoda says:

    “How do I determine which ones will give that thrill of lifetime?” This is a tough question to answer; and for her, an important one.

    So how know the answer she does.
    Thrills await, but which ride it would be?

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  46. Tarnished says:

    what is ffs?

    For fucks sake.

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  47. Yoda says:

    her own reserved stool at the bar and her own chair at the garage. Which all happens to be relatively good marketing as well.

    Quirky things like that, especially if not obviously contrived, work well they do.
    Often when comes to sales it does,
    Being memorable most important it would be

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  48. Tarnished says:

    The typical woman’s attitude toward regular dudes is extremely poor

    And a shame it is too. Most average guys aren’t boring. They’re unique in their own ways, just not flashy or over the top. More subtle individuality.

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  49. Tarnished says:

    Ton,

    Your pup sounds great, even if she does need some holding now and then. She’ll learn though, of course. Nice that she has her own spots.

    My late dog needed to be carried as well, but not until she hit old age and got cancer. Every other day I’d go to mom’s house to walk her…she still enjoyed long walks but couldn’t make it back. Lol, I’m sure I looked a sight to the neighborhood, carrying a 70 lb collie the mile back home. But that’s what you do for your companions.

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  50. Tarnished says:

    Thrills await, but which ride it would be?

    How exactly does she know there’s thrills on any of the rides within her immediate area? Given that a little over 1/3 of women report having trouble climaxing (or don’t at all), why does she think some random alpha can assuredly supply the “time of her life? Or is this about mental validation instead of physical satisfaction?

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  51. Yoda says:

    Or is this about mental validation instead of physical satisfaction?

    Probably true in many cases this is.
    “I am validated, therefore I am”

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  52. Yoda says:

    Most average guys aren’t boring.

    Compete with the excitement of the Kardashians they can?

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  53. Tarnished says:

    Sorry, I didn’t realize the word Excitement had the alternative definition of “to act as sloppy booze-hound make-up encrusted attention whores”.

    In which case, I thank the Gods that average men aren’t exciting.

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  54. Liz says:

    “Compete with the excitement of the Kardashians they can?”

    Last man who tried that, no longer a man he is.

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  55. Tarnished says:

    “I am validated, therefore I am”

    Sounds boring.
    I’ll pass, thank you.

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  56. Yoda says:

    News to me this is

    Meryl Streep has dismissed questions about the all-white panel at the Berlin Film Festival by telling reporters that “we’re all Africans really”.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1640244/streep-on-diversity-were-all-africans-really

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  57. Yoda says:

    “I attention whore, therefore I am”

    “I am fascinated by attention whores, therefor I am”

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  58. Yoda says:

    How exactly does she know there’s thrills on any of the rides within her immediate area? Given that a little over 1/3 of women report having trouble climaxing

    Is not tingles more in the “leading up to the climax part”?

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  59. SFC Ton says:

    This time of year, business is all locals and we love our colorful locals

    Sex for women is not about climax but about being climaxed into. The oh no 1/3 of women don’t get off is really feminist bullshit of men and women being the same. Through various research we now know women fake it to keep a man around and thus supporting my point

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    what is ffs?

    For fucks sake.

    Hey! He asked a polite question. No need to be ‘kin rude

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  61. Yoda says:

    Compete with the excitement of the Kardashians they can?

    Read my own comment I did.
    Read it this way I did

    “Compete with the excrement of the Kardashians they can?”

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  62. Cill says:

    Yoda, I prefer the way you read it.

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  63. Spawny Get says:

    ba dum tish!
    thangyouverymushlaydeezngennlemen

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  64. Cill says:

    You been hitting the top shelf, me old mate?

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  65. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    A scatological reference? From you? Foolishness would be more to the point.

    Tarn,
    Your comment about women having difficulty in climaxing may be underreported.
    I think getting together with what a woman sees as a hawt guy is half of it. Books are judged by their covers.

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  66. Tarnished says:

    Hey! He asked a polite question. No need to be ‘kin rude

    Lol. I see what you did there. 😉

    Sex for women is not about climax but about being climaxed into.

    I don’t know if this is just my warped brain being special then, but I know I would not want to have sex if I didn’t know for 100% sure that I’d hit the…what does Moe call it? The “paradise stroke”? It would be pointless. (To me. I know others think of it differently.)

    Through various research we now know women fake it to keep a man around and thus supporting my point.

    In my opinion, this is a form of manipulation mixed with dishonesty. I suppose I can see why someone would do it though.

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  67. Tarnished says:

    I suppose I can see why someone would do it though…for a kinder reason, I should say.

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  68. Tarnished says:

    Is not tingles more in the “leading up to the climax part”?

    If we are just talking about the basics of being physically attracted to someone, then yes. Personally, I’m attracted to the “frosting” of looks and scent first, but personality is the “cake”.

    But FB often talks about tingles in such a way that it goes beyond this, and more into the realm of physical attraction PLUS perceived financial status PLUS perceived strength PLUS perceived badass-ness. Which, as Ton pointed out, may be far removed from the reality of a situation.

    So it appears Fuzzie is correct, in that if a man is Y but appears to have X resources, he will be seen as X instead.

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  69. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I think a sheila would have a bit of a problem hitting the paradise stroke. I reckon she’d be Donald Ducked by the “stroke” part of it… unless she has strapped on an oblong rock and is doing the bloke with it… “Good Lord, I’ve never heard of such a thing on the rugged Coromandel”, Mrs Moehau Man (my shocked old mum) called out. I have to say, the thought of it shocks me as well. I found meself clenching me butt cheeks and backing against a cliff.

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I knew there was reason that I stayed away from scatological references.

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    It may be universal. Sex witha beautiful woman wouldm’t be the same blindfolded. However, this may have more bearing on women due the diffficulties in obtaining satisfaction. You do bring up a good point. a normal, healthy, sensible woman would stick witha guy that does it for her. Hmmmm…..

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  72. Moehau Man says:

    TRIGGER WARNING!!! ^^^

    Mrs Moehau Man (my prim old mum) insists I add a trigger warning to my comment up there ^^^.

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  73. SFC Ton says:

    this is a form of manipulation mixed with dishonesty…. Tarn

    Well now that doesn’t make it much different then say 80% of what women do… I by 80% I mean 100% or near on enough that it doesnt make a difference

    One of the alpha/ beta dividing lines is worrying about the female orgasm. Nor is it 100% required for reproduction. If I had a nickle for every chick who was grateful I wasn’t worried about her getting off I’d need a new piggy bank. Remember when I said to be a woman is to worry about everything? Well getting off is one more item on that list. Also as a man with a N count, it is easy to brush off your off nights or when some chick attacks your sexual prowess and they will when they want to hurt you enough.

    There is some thought that women making noise etc during sex is really about trying to signal to a more alpha man to come get her instead of the guy rutting between her legs. How they came up with that is anyone’s guess but I can see how no orgasms helps women win the reproduction war; no full satisfaction could mean she takes in more cock/ baby batter and have more kids. And really these things don’t have to be but marginally more successfully to take on over generations.

    Women rarely do anything out of kindness.

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  74. Spawny Get says:

    Cameron Warned Failure to Listen to Tory Grassroots on Brexit May Destroy His Party

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/12/cameron-warned-failure-to-listen-to-tory-grassroots-on-brexit-may-destroy-his-party/

    In their letter, the 132 councillors have told the Prime Minister that campaigning to leave the Union is the “only honest and responsible thing to do” in light of the poor outcome of his renegotiation.

    “We do not feel these manifesto commitments alone were enough to represent a good deal for Britain in Europe, but given the clarity of the commitment they were at least the minimum outcome we could hope for in any renegotiation,” the letter states.

    “As they have not been met, the only responsible and honest thing for the Conservative Party – and for those in it – to do, is campaign for Britain’s exit from the European Union.

    “You made clear that if you did not get the deal you wanted in Europe you would not rule out campaigning for Britain to leave the European Union yourself, and we hope you will now unite your party and Britain in doing so.”

    Polling has shown that the public are on the councillors’ side – a snap poll following the publication of the new deal thrashed out in Brussels found that the majority of Brits in every demographic thought the deal was bad for Britain by an average of two to one.

    Mr Cameron further angered his party last week by telling backbench Members of Parliament to ignore their constituencies when deciding how to campaign in the upcoming referendum. Furious activists threatened not to campaign for Conservative candidates in the May local elections.

    In a letter to the Telegraph, Andrew Nicholas, the chairman of Enfield North Conservative Association, said: “Despite what he appears to think, he has no divine right to rule and if he thinks he can contemptuously dismiss the views of those of us throughout the Country who helped to put him in Downing Street, he may well find he is in for a nasty shock in the future.”

    Others warned that Cameron was pushing disillusioned Conservatives into the arms of the UK Independence Party.

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  75. SFC Ton says:

    The sex drive is about making babies and survival not pleasure.

    Pleasure is the mechanism that keeps us fucking and spitting out babies

    To much of the thinking in the world confuses these sort of things

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  76. Cill says:

    “There is some thought that women making noise etc during sex is really about trying to signal to a more alpha man to come get her instead of the guy rutting between her legs.”

    I didn’t know this is a theory out there. It’s a thought I arrived at myself a while ago, that the noise would attract more men to the mating, and the serial sex would explain the no orgasm or delayed orgasm as well.

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    This guy lost to Cameron in the Tory leadership election.

    Oh how different things could have been

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  78. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Has anyone take the time to explain to the North Pole Penguin that the economies of Britain and Germany cannot carry the rest of Europe.
    We have been waiting for it to hit the fan for years but, the PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) haven’t collapsed yet.

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  79. Sumo says:

    There is some thought that women making noise etc during sex is really about trying to signal to a more alpha man to come get her instead of the guy rutting between her legs.

    I got a sweater for Christmas. I wanted a screamer or a moaner.

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  80. Yoda says:

    I got a sweater for Christmas.

    An ugly sweater it was?
    At Christmas ugly sweater contest we did have
    Fortunately win I did not

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  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    No one will knit you a sweater that clashes with your green complexion.

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  82. Cill says:

    In verde Yoda would be indistinguishable he would.
    Bilious green the sweater might have to be.

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  83. Cill says:

    Spawny at 8:42 pm and 8:55 pm

    Great stuff!

    David Davis, damn good speech (except Rutherford, the “father of modern physics” wasn’t English, he was a Kiwi -although he did most of his work in England)

    Anyway, I’m in a good mood now. Thanks.

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  84. Spawny Get says:

    Another word for Sweater in English English is Jumper…Which also works, it may add a little darkness too. Which is nice.

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  85. Cill says:

    I was in a good mood already, but now I’m levitating with gleeful malice at the fix the North Pole Penguin has gotten himself into.

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  86. Spawny Get says:

    Nay probs, Cill. It was a fine STEMmy list, that was.

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  87. Cill says:

    Hey, I’m trying to picture Sumo getting jumped by a jumper broad…






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  88. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    I think that Sumo has a plan for that. I wouldn’t worry.

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  89. Cill says:

    Fuzzy, you reckon he’ll catch her on the hop

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  90. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    He is following Snoopy’s observation, happiness is fudge caught on the first bounce.

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Another scatological reference. This one features Obi Wan.

    They were whistling because they couldn’t sing “Hoseshit makes the grass grow green” then.

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  92. Yoda says:

    Trigger warning below there is.
    But for Tarn not.

    NOT TO GO all Freudian right off the bat, but I admit that the giant digital vulva throws me off a little bit. I get the idea at the core of OMGYes, the website introduced late last year that promises to teach women techniques to improve their orgasms. Data, information, and hands-on instruction (plus feedback!) is the best way to teach new tools to women and their partners. Well, not tools, because this is all about digital manipulation, with nothing so far about things like vibrators. Digital as in fingers, not digital as in virtual. Except for the big vulva. That’s virtual.

    Sorry. I’ll start again. The fact is, I don’t usually talk about sex in public—which in a way makes me an ideal target for OMGYes, since another core tenet of the site, predictably, is “communicate better.” Also, stipulated, I do not have a vulva, but I am in a relationship with a person who does, and when this person is happy, I am happy.

    So, yup: I aspire to be a lifelong learner.

    Nevertheless, the idea of using the screen of my phone to push around a photorealistic clitoral hood, labia majora and minora, and (as warranted) clitoris while the OMGYes voice coos words of encouragement is, well, weird. I get it—it’s modeling how to communicate with a partner. And yet … it was even harder to do on my laptop. Let’s just say I will never look at my trackball the same way again.

    http://www.wired.com/2016/02/silicon-valley-wants-to-disrupt-orgasms-with-science/

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  93. Tarnished says:

    I didn’t know this is a theory out there.

    Oh, there’s a ridiculous amount of theories regarding female orgasm out there. As in, more than there probably needs to be. Males and females come from the same mold until hormones start creating differences in the womb. It’s why men have nipples but 99.9% of the time can’t breastfeed. It may be a similar reason for the female orgasm not being easily accessible. Nobody really knows, and I doubt we’ll ever learn the “whys” behind it, just like many other things.

    It’s a thought I arrived at myself a while ago, that the noise would attract more men to the mating, and the serial sex would explain the no orgasm or delayed orgasm as well.

    I thought so too, but assumed that the serial sex was why women are capable of having multiple orgasms in one lay. It’s weird…how some females are easily multi, but others can’t even manage 1 consistently. Maybe it has to do with the amount of prenatal testosterone?

    Remember when I said to be a woman is to worry about everything? Well getting off is one more item on that list.

    Lol. It’s not a “worry” if it only takes a single minute of touch by a partner to complete. Although I suppose if you tell him X gets you off but he keeps doing Q…well, then that is a problem. Like the guy in a comment above, I’d probably just get up and leave. :/

    You do bring up a good point. a normal, healthy, sensible woman would stick witha guy that does it for her.

    Yup. Nailed it, Fuzzie. 😉

    Hahaha, Moe!
    I wasn’t insinuating that. I was talking about stroking the female bit, that’s all! 😀

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  94. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I gave you a Like, and reckon I’ll be able to un-clench me butt cheeks over the next couple of days. Mrs Moehau Man (my relieved old mum) says she endorses the Like I gave you.

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  95. Yoda says:

    A new post there is

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  96. Wow I have been busy and unable to read this post (and comments!) till now. Rather than even try to say all I could about this discussion, I’ll just say very fun to read and leave it at that! Looks like I missed the party 🙂

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  97. Plus I probably would have over shard and embarrassed myself anyway! 🙂

    Next post…

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  98. Liz says:

    “Lol. It’s not a “worry” if it only takes a single minute of touch by a partner to complete. Although I suppose if you tell him X gets you off but he keeps doing Q…well, then that is a problem.”

    Ton is right, Tarn. It’s just added stress.
    Most women don’t get off in a single minute of touch by a partner. Probably 99.9 percent of them.

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  99. Liz says:

    I honestly (trigger warning Yoda) can’t think of anything that would make me less likely to have an orgasm than if Mike were actively looking at me expectantly and asking repeatedly, “does this feel good? How ’bout this?” and so forth.

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  100. I was going to say the same Liz. If anything is an orgasam killer it’s that — a guy overly obsessing about it. Yeesh… Back off and enjoy the moment for goodness sake. Even worse is the guy later obsessing about it, as if making a girl orgasam is like cracking top secret spy code and saving the world. Relax. Seriously. It’s OK. It’s like a watched pot never boiling — when one stops watching, it happens! 🙂 pressure does not help, for sure.

    I’d suspect the gals faking it thing may be twofold, to assuage the ego of a guy who is worried “did you? How bout now? Anything yet?” And also probably just so he’ll stop harping on it.

    Advice to guys: doing this greatly decreases odds of her wanting to repeat the awkwardness. It’s one thing to want to make one’s partner happy (this is good) another to be insecure about it if she doesn’t every time (not good.)

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  101. Liz says:

    Truth, Bloom, yes, yes YEESSS!
    😛

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  102. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    You shouldn’t threaten men with withdrawal. We have come to realize that it is inevitable anyway.

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  103. SFC Ton says:

    So much misunderstanding of how women work…. its like all the red pill intell in the world is a bucket of piss

    Women faking it to save a guy’s ego gives women to much credit. A mans bedroom ranking is among the 1st things she attacks when she is done with a guy/ wants to hurt him Women brag to each other about how they attacked a guy over this. They fake it to keep high status men around, not betas

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  104. Liz says:

    I’ve always been convinced Mike’s ex was a faker. Either that, or she was like Tarn that way. But, I doubt it. I don’t fake, ever. Even though I’m Italian. I suppose if I had become an escort or something I’d do it for income reasons.

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  105. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I flew off the handle with my last Comment. You didn’t deserve that personally. Maybe it comes from doing our best and finding out it will never be…

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  106. SFC Ton says:

    Of the 300 plus women I’ve banged, very few got off that easy… one claimed to cum on command. Otherwise it required some level of work to the few who odds of getting off rivaled winning the power ball.

    to effectively understand the world around us we need to be able to step outside our own narrow set of experiences… even when its not all that narrow set

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  107. Tarnished says:

    …actively looking at me expectantly and asking repeatedly, “does this feel good? How ’bout this?” and so forth.

    Agreed. That would just be off-putting, just like if you did that to Mike. Not sexy at all. Kinda like those consent videos…ugh.

    I flew off the handle with my last comment.

    I noticed that was a tad different than your usual way of commenting. Everything okay, Fuzzie?

    Maybe it comes from doing our best and finding out it will never be…

    Do your best for yourself, bear. That way at least you are always working towards personal happiness rather than everyone else’s. It’s a tough lesson to learn, but is worth it.

    Of the 300 plus women I’ve banged, very few got off that easy…one claimed to cum on command.

    Wow. Uh, nope. Can’t claim that. Something physical is still required.

    I’ve always been convinced Mike’s ex was a faker. Either that, or she was like Tarn that way. But, I doubt it.

    The more studies and polls I read about this, the more I doubt it too, and see that I’m really in the minority. (What else is new? 😒)
    There’s a crap-ton of articles by feminists who claim this data just goes to show how Teh Patriarchy is keeping women oppressed in the bedroom, but honestly it looks more like a combination of

    1) the majority of women not needing an orgasm to report being sexually satisfied, but needing other frequent acts of intimacy instead, like hugs, kisses, massages, and compliments, especially about his level of attraction to her,
    2)95%+ women not even experiencing painful vasocongestion upon uncompleted climax, and
    3) women not adequately communicating what they like to their partners/just expecting the guy to magically know…because reasons.

    I don’t fake, ever. Even though I’m Italian.

    Lol. Are Italians known for faking things?
    I haven’t ever needed to fake it either, but I do greatly exaggerate the outward/verbal result for his benefit.

    A mans bedroom ranking is among the 1st things she attacks when she is done with a guy/ wants to hurt him.

    I’ve seen this online during breakups and divorces. Has made me unfriend a number of female acquaintances. You’d think such cheap tactics would cease after high school, but apparently not.😡

    Blurkel would likely have some input here too. I hope he is no longer sick, and doing better now.

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  108. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Thanks for the pep talk.

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  109. Liz says:

    “Are Italians known for faking things?”

    Yep. Just about everything. They like their stories. 😉

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  110. I’ve never faked either, so i can’t say from experience Ton, but that’s what I’ve been told about the ego thing. Of course maybe they werent being honest w themselves or other what the true motivation was. I’ve never understood why a woman would fake it, seems counterproductive. She’s basically saying something’s working when it’s really not, but if he thinks he’s found “the switch” chances are he’ll keep doing the same, not realizing its actually not working, so she’ll have to keep faking, etc. That makes no sense to me…

    Now I have experienced the pressure thing, and know firsthand that does not help matters. I didn’t mean that to sound like a threat fuzzie, it was more like friendly advice — pressure makes it harder to get there so it’s not recommended, it’s counterproductive.

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  111. What Ton said above was right, about it being a relief. Best to just focus on the moment and if it happens, it happens! At least in my experience.

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  112. Over explaining but… If it doesn’t happen, the guy should not automatically feel it is his fault or that he “did it wrong.” Sometimes despite everyone’s best effort it doesn’t happen, other times it happens fairly quickly and without any effort. I suspect for women it’s linked to hormones and where she’s at in her cycle. Many times it’s also her own inability to let go, or some such hang up even Cassanova couldn’t overcome. And other times it’s because she’s with the guy for reasons other than true attraction (the BB thing.)

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  113. SFC Ton says:

    again women fake it Bloom to keep high value men in place; at the root level they know enthusiastic sex is about all they have to offer

    One of the advantages for a man with a high N count is the ablity to let it be and/ or laugh off the attacks on your sexual skillz and if you date much they will be attacked at some point and on some level. Very few women can say “well I enjoyed my time with so and so but things faded” or what have you. They have to lay blame and it can never be them. Sex is a private enough matter that if said woman goes with “sex was no good” no one will every bring it up in mixed circles. I’ve had 2-3 chicks try that line of attack; I laughed at them. When you have a large body of work you aren’t so worried about the off nights. In the one case, the whole table laughed at her

    To be fair, most women are easy enough to please most of the time and no I don’t be getting them off, but at the same time almost every woman out there has been in bitch mode about the topic too. Another one of those vortexs of men suck women create out of thin air when they get together

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  114. Ok Mr. High N pants 🙂
    Just kidding!
    Tis true, true true.

    For the record I have also never said someone sucked in the sack after a break up. That’s plain old mean. But some do… Usually sour grapes they are.

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  115. Tarnished says:

    Many times it’s also her own inability to let go…

    This does make reaching the finish line difficult for both sexes, it would seem. Sometimes they just can’t relax mentally enough to allow it to happen. But a short massage break fixes that issue in my admittedly limited experience.

    In the one case, the whole table laughed at her.

    She…brought it up in public, at lunch/dinner? What the hell? 😕

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  116. Mrs. Yoda says:

    Never fake it I do
    Yoda know it he would.

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  117. Yoda says:

    She…brought it up in public, at lunch/dinner? What the hell?

    Too much for Tarn even this is

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  118. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,

    That’s because discussing sexual topics in a good, hypothetical, or scientific light whilst being online is really, really, really different than talking about it at a table irl with intent to create drama or inflict humiliation.

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  119. SFC Ton says:

    oh yea Tarn

    Now…. I might be the world’s biggest dick but I don’t have the world’s biggest dick…however among my peer group when we are getting worked on by the docs one of our running jokes is….
    “penis ensmallment because I am tired of facing assault with a deadly weapon charges” kind of funny, pretty old but a long standing gag …. kind of thing we all say none of us mean and everyone knows is a joke…at the same time…..

    I rarely talk about my sex life but girls always do so all my friend’s wives/ long term girlfriends have a pretty good idea since the girls like to kiss and tell. I have my reputation with women and part of that is girls never miss me but they do miss the sex. As told by a number of women with in our social circles

    So there I am at this bar table with a large group of friends, mixed sex of course and someone asks about ridding and I defer saying the joke about the penis ensmallment. One of the girls there was some chick I banged off and on for a weeks. Pretty little thing with blonde hair, blue eyes, DD’s and a tiny waist… terrible attitude though so the kind of girl who you bust a nut in and send her home. Also she self admitted to only getting off by one of those giant vibrator things.. hatachi? Said she used one so much it was the only way to go….. any rate I saw her off and on for maybe three weeks, then after some time a guy on the edge of my social circle started banging her and she was there that night.

    Short story long, I said my line, everyone groaned about it and we would have moved on expect Ms Thang tried to make a scene. Everyone laughed at her expect one of my buddies old lady who is a real bitch toward other women. She kind of took her to task saying something like “hun, Ton goes through women like old socks so we all know he’s doing something right”

    Now imagine that with a younger man, less experienced, different sort of friends and what not

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  120. Tarnished says:

    Also she self admitted to only getting off by one of those giant vibrator things.. hatachi?

    Yeah, same with over masturbation using extreme porn for guys, if a gal over masturbates with toys exclusively she’s gonna get used to just that type of stimulation. Far better to switch it up.

    So what you’re saying is, she is not only bitchy but unintelligent. Great package…

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  121. Yoda says:

    Plus I probably would have over shard and embarrassed myself anyway! 🙂

    “Overshard” she did.
    Perhaps Ton influence on RPG he has

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  122. SFC Ton says:

    So what you’re saying is, she is not only bitchy but unintelligent. Great package…

    Yea pretty typical fare in the modern SMP…. However I have never meet a woman I would consider really intelligent. Most cannot see past themselves/ their small little corner of the world to be truly smart. Even when they have a much better then average IQ

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  123. SFC Ton says:

    also want to say most of the times I have seen a woman trying to sexually shame a man its when they are in a LTR, most esp marriage

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  124. Tarnished says:

    Never? Even the ones you live with, Ton?

    So do you mean they aren’t introspective, that they are solipistic, or that they get bogged down in the minutiae of daily life and don’t take time to think of larger topics?

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  125. Tarnished says:

    also want to say most of the times I have seen a woman trying to sexually shame a man its when they are in a LTR, most esp marriage

    Well.
    That is just fucking pathetic.
    Not to mention depressing.

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  126. Yoda @ 4:57 Lol, for some reason lots of people seem to think I am from the South. I don’t live there anymore but I grew up in Arizona, which is the Southwest but I wouldn’t consider it “the South.” I don’t think I have an accent either, but then again nobody ever thinks they have an accent — everyone else has the accent!

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  127. SFC Ton says:

    yes to all of the above

    my own daughter included

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  128. Tarnished says:

    That is sad, Ton.
    Your family sounds more like mine than it should.

    Why were your daughter or wife-types not able to reject such traits?

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  129. SFC Ton says:

    Sad? Why is women being women sad?
    As I have said before most people, even those who claim to reject feminism are ate up with the stuff

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  130. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    What Miss Thang did is pretty close to nuclear. If it had happened to less confident guy, it would put him off for a while and he may just leave town.
    By the way,it’s Hitachi.

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  131. SFC Ton says:

    That’s a legit point Fuzzie but what Ms Thing did was over estimate her own social standing, in essences she took on the most popular kind in high school when she didn’t have the weight. Nor did she understand the 0 fucks given. I could in fact be the worst lay in the world and none of them would have cared.

    She assumed since a woman’s value is measured by sex/ sex appeal men are as well

    Men are much more useful so valued for a wide array of skillz and accomplishments

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  132. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    I don’t know how women value men. That would be useful if I wanted to make myself more valuable in their eyes.
    Miss Thang tried to do something vicious. It is good that she failed.

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  133. SFC Ton says:

    Fuzzie, Fuzzie Fuzzie you have been reading around these parts you should know how women value men. Deciding the “reward” is not worth the effort is one thing ignorance something else

    Frankly I don’t give a rats bald ass what women value, being in good standing among men worthy of the word is infinity more importance. My success with women is happenstance really in that what I excel in makes them wet

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  134. Tarnished says:

    Nor did she understand the 0 fucks given.

    True. A lot of people believe that you care what they think of you, so much that your feelz will be hurt if they pass a poor judgment for whatever reason. Likewise, they believe you will strive to apologize or do stupid things in order to “prove” yourself to them and get back in their good graces.

    Pshaw, I say.
    When I work to be a better person, a better lover, a better friend, and a better employee…its because *I* want to. Doing it any other way, there’s a good chance someone else will try to live your life for you. Screw that.

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  135. Tarnished says:

    I don’t know how women value men. That would be useful if I wanted to make myself more valuable in their eyes.

    For a decent portion of them, waving a fat wallet around will do the trick. :/
    Probably not the route you’d like to take though, eh, Fuzzie.

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  136. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Not even that works. I tried that once. I have tried a lot of things.

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  137. Yoda says:

    A newer post there is

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  138. Tarnished says:

    Not even that works. I tried that once. I have tried a lot of things.

    I’m sorry, bear.
    I don’t really know what to try, then.
    Just as lost as you are. 

    *offers virtual hug and mug of hot cocoa*

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  139. SFC Ton says:

    waving a wallet around gets a man used and abused…. its pure beta game and that shit never works for long and always goes bad for the man

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  140. Tarnished says:

    My money comment was not serious anyway. I don’t think materialistic, financially swayed women were your type.

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  141. @ fuzzie it wasn’t you it was them. Women want a combo of wealth, status, companionship, and good sex. Each woman ranks those things differently but you seem true blue — any gal would be lucky to have you. Not the other way around, dear bear! Chin up! Xoxoxo

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  142. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Thank you for the kind thoughts. That one really did me in.

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  143. Tarnished says:

    That one really did me in.

    Did she pretend to be someone she wasn’t? Or was it pretty evident from the beginning that she was a wallet-chaser?

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  144. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    Thank you too!

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  145. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    She was a frivorcee from Bel Air, which is above Beverly Hills. My head knew better.

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  146. Tarnished says:

    Oooooh, yeah.
    *cringe*

    Kinda red flag central there, bud.

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  147. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    Hindsight is always 20/20. Out of that, the warning was to “guard my heart”.
    How do you do that?

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  148. blurkel says:

    Way late and dollars short, but here goes!

    @ Tarn

    One wonders why so many women require this strange combination of fright and security in their lives.

    It isn’t just women, Tarn. Too many gamers would cower in sewers avoiding being shot if they ever truly faced combat.

    Thrill rides exist so that people can feel the rush of adrenaline without any likely chance of actually being harmed. It’s the only way too many people feel alive.

    So they’re to blame for all the tremendously crappy horror movies full of needless jumpscares that do nothing to further the plot that began leaking out in the early 90s?

    Yes, and for the same reason. The killer on the screen will never break that 4th wall, but might provide cover for the real-life type lurking in the shadows (see: Aurora CO)

    Cill, nobody is ever really experienced in women. That’s like being fluent in a language that changes it’s syntax every 5 minutes.

    I’m stealing that description, Tarn! It’s TOO perfect!

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  149. Tarnished says:

    Thrill rides exist so that people can feel the rush of adrenaline without any likely chance of actually being harmed. It’s the only way too many people feel alive.

    I feel quite alive while safely on the ground rather than careening wildly at breakneck speeds along a serpentine conglomeration of steel and wood crafted in the crazed depths of a madman’s fever dreams.

    Thanks for the offer, though. I’ll just sit over here with a fairground caramel apple instead. 😛

    I’m stealing that description, Tarn! It’s TOO perfect!

    *bows deeply*

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  150. Tarnished says:

    The killer on the screen will never break that 4th wall…

    You are clearly not a fan of Deadpool comics. 😉

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  151. Cill says:

    brother blurkel, great to have you back.

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  152. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    AS Curley would say, “Me three!”.

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  153. SFC Ton says:

    fluent in women? Sure women are not complex, they are convoluted

    once you understand the basics you understand women…. and the blaance of power shifts…. which is reason #2 why women hate Game, TRP etc ( reason #1 is some jumped up beta might wallpaper her baby box with his baby batter )

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  154. Tarnished says:

    reason #1 is some jumped up beta might wallpaper her baby box with his baby batter

    I still don’t understand this part. If you like someone and find them attractive enough to have sex with, then what’s the issue?
    Is it a sense of betrayal, because they were acting like a different person?

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