Resolute


Commenter Buena Vista again comments,

One of my outcomes from the red pill reeducation camp is a firm conviction, demonstrated daily and even online, is the impossibility of discussing RP issues with women and blue pill men. (Deti originally articulated this, and I think he was right.) The men all prattle on like Tucker Carlson, telling us to Man UP! and be a woman’s walking selfie stick, and the women … well, duh. We’re not supposed to know the other side’s gameplan.

Anyway, enforced silence has its advantages and disadvantages. I’m of the opinion that a stoic confidence in the newly discovered order of things is generally a good thing, but it does induce more than happy certainty. There is a steeliness to the insights. People like Cill embody that here very well.

Metaphor Alert: Borrowing from American politics for a moment, consider the meme “Cold Anger.” Frankly, this is where I believe the airplane lands after it transitions through the ice and convection that is the thunderstorm of a RP awakening. This is what we have left, where once we held all the pretty lies dear. At least it’s an outlook that fosters action and resolve, rather than despair; it is not, incidentally, incompatible with humility, because it requires one to respect the danger that is the postmodern, hyper-narcissistic, open hypergamy, the- government-sees-us-as-donkeys-with-semen-and-dollars-to-collect, era.

Let us consider Red Pill men (and women).  Probably they were searching for answers when they came upon it.  Why were they searching for answers?  Undoubtedly because of frustrations and failures in relationships with the other sex.  Furthermore, undoubtedly many were spurred on by the nagging notion that there was something wrong about the situation in general; that there was something that they were not telling us.  People like that, when presented with a logical, not overly complex, coherent model o reality, are ready converts.

What about the others; the people who appear to be somewhat intelligent (and perhaps maybe sympathetic to the cause), but when presented with red pill, spit it out.  More often than not it is because they are so invested in the present situation (financially, emotionally, career, wife) that a disruptive set of ideas cannot be tolerated.  For most, it is just a bridge too far.

So even though the present situation is exploitive of men in general, often leads to miserable adults, often leads to miserable children, we are all so co-dependent on the system and each other that almost nobody wants to do much about it.  “Shut up” they say, as nobody wants to be reminded of their co-dependency.

So what should we do?  BV suggests being strong role models, to show the world what for lack of better term, red pill men are, to from time to time prod people in the direction of the red pill.  To be strong and resolute in doing this.  In actuality, is there really any other choice.  Once you see the truth, you cannot go back; and the way forward for the individual beckons.

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139 comments on “Resolute
  1. Tarnished says:

    As we found in the last thread, a concise definition of exactly what Red Pill entails might help to determine why some would not accept all or part of it.

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  2. Easttexasfatboy says:

    That sounds great! My real life experiences are somewhat different. Most blue pillers don’t like to be shown that they are fools. Here in Texas, you can’t tell a man that his beloved is gonna screw him over. I’m too old to casually fight like a kid. The young Hispanic guys I talk too are much more attentive. Speaking fluent Spanish helps.

    Most men aren’t disposed to listen. Most of the reasons were covered in the article. You see, this is why I’m MGTOW. True, I’m going to die alone. Oh well….

    I came to the red pill after a divorce. Finding out I had been a complete fool about women all my life was a bitter pill to swallow. I worked my way thru it, in large part because I was alone. A man who has female relatives who continue to lie to him wouldn’t fare so well.

    This is why I feel that offering your opinion with out being asked may not be wise. Even then, best be measuring your words….
    A little bit at a time.

    We are living in a feminised society. No changing that. Almost all men have bought into that. Young men might listen, but I doubt it. Most worship their mother and sisters.

    However, Germany looms as an example. If asked, nope, won’t do a thing to help those women in Germany. They voted for that mess, and won’t fight to protect themselves. I really can’t give much hope for this situation.

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  3. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Red pill is essentially everything that feminism isn’t. Hypergamy and the problem of considering women to be perfect and incapable of deception are huge

    Yeah, and the fact that your mother knowingly lied to you when she gave you dating advice….want more?

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  4. Tarnished says:

    ETFB,

    Believe me, I know all that. It’s just sometimes difficult to recall all of the multitude of topics Red Pill encompasses, or even if certain knowledge is considered RP by others.

    Small example, are we putting PUA teachings under the Red Pill umbrella?

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  5. Tarnished says:

    By the way, ETFB…welcome to Spawny’s Space. Hope you stay awhile.

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  6. Tarnished says:

    You see, this is why I’m MGTOW. True, I’m going to die alone. Oh well…

    Heh. Death, in itself, is a solo trip anyway. And being married or having children is not a guarantee that one will have them near once your string is cut.

    The assertion of “you’ll die alone” made by Fems and the like towards MGTOW says more about their lack of empathy than anything else.

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  7. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Personally, PUA like Roosh certainly know women, no doubt. But here’s the problem in the US…..red pill teaches you to be careful with the fire….but PUA aren’t aware of the consequences, it seems to me. We have a heavily feminised judiciary here, and it’s getting worse. Best let the artists fend for themselves. I’ve never been a fan of all that, anyways. Weaponised red pill is all PUA is, as I understand it. But then I must admit, I’m plain as can be.

    To me, red pill is, as was stated in the Matrix, a one way proposition. You can never unheard what you hear. But, here’s the catch…..no one wants to admit they’ve been decieved. PUA is deception. Ain’t my thing.

    The basic thing about red pill is this…..Women are rational creatures…..but you have to understand that they do not view things the way that men do. A woman is into the idea of surviving the moment…..so, really, they aren’t into masculine values that stand the test of time. Women have zero concept of fairness.

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  8. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Tarnished…..we ALL die alone. Here in the States, we face an election of immense proportions. You want red pill? Look at Trump. He ain’t got a PC bone in his body. There’s a real thirst for that here.

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  9. molly says:

    My “daily” touch base w Fuzzie. I can’t leave hot food for 🐻 .

    Too hot here, the thought of hot food makes me melt. Whew! Too hot anywhere except in the sea. I’m off for a swim. Here’s cold food instead, hope u don’t mind




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  10. Tarnished says:

    Here in the States, we face an election of immense proportions.

    Don’t have to tell me twice.
    I’m a New Yorker.

    PUA aren’t aware of the consequences, it seems to me. We have a heavily feminised judiciary here, and it’s getting worse. Best let the artists fend for themselves.

    That’s my take as well.

    To me, red pill is, as was stated in the Matrix, a one way proposition. You can never unheard what you hear.

    Ain’t that the truth!

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  11. molly says:

    One icecream per paw 😀
    Off for a swim I go!

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  12. molly says:

    Ah that’s better, I’m cooled off! I swam far and dived deep. Not like my rule for the blog, eh. Stay in the shallows and make it brief 😉

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! Thanks for the ice cream! I am sorry that I only have burritos to offer. I don’t know how to make ice cream. I only know how to eat it. 🙂 Yum!
    🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

    Off tipic but news. Yesterday, Donald Trump told Fox News that it was him or Mrgyn Jelly for the last Republican debate. Fox News is standing by Megyn. Trump announced that he would forgo the last debate. His personality shines in a devte format.
    Yesterday, I said that, for the first time, men will have to consider gender as a primary qualifier. This is more true today.

    NOt that I watch that much cable news but, back in 2001, Tucker Carlson was falsly accused of rape.When they got doen to details, he was in a different state at the time. How can he be such an enabler of feminism?

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I just saw this and I am furious.
    Talk about selective prosecution.

    http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2016/01/journalists-face-felony-charges/

    These people deserve awards for exposing this.

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  15. molly says:

    Fuzzie they make me mad as well.
    grrrr

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  16. molly says:

    If I was a born as a male I’d be totally staunch I think. It is genetic, eh. When I get mad I think of my fav things like Mollymawks. (where I got my name molly)

    Mollymawks are my fav seabirds and owls are my fav land birds. Mollymawks’ eyes are cruel up close, like when y on the transom board of a fishing boat off Stewart Island. They soar with 9 feet wings close enough to touch, same speed as the boat. They don’t want us, only the guts from the fish.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I found Mollymawks on youtube.

    I bet they would like burritos.

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  18. molly says:

    Fuzzie the voice accent is southern NZ, Stewart Island maybe. Mollymawks are 9 feet wing span, smaller than Albatross. There’s an Albatross nesting colony near Dunedin, further north. I wish u could see them flying tho, up close watching u scrape the fish guts with your scaling knife. They watch very close on their wings behind the boat.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    They should team up with bears when the salmon are running. They’ll eat what the bears won’t.
    I can only imagine how close they watch humans cleaning fish.
    On second thought, they might find burritos to be weird.

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  20. Spawny Get says:

    You’re all Male Chauvinist Pigs Shitlords* but never fear, she’s here

    *one prefers to keep au courant with the modern lingo even when it is somewhat déclassé (being a product of the rabid, bossy, nagging, shrewish fem-plebian rabble)

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  21. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Spread that like butter on bread. It drives home point and makes people laugh.
    Thank you.

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  22. Spawny Get says:

    And what’s even better, Fuzzie?

    I got that from the comments of a mainstream UK magazine’s online edition, the article itself and the comments will warm the cockles of your heart
    Irony alert: ‘rabid feminists’ want themselves removed from the Oxford English Dictionary

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    I always prefer to use humour when talking about femeroids. The metaphorical shiv goes deeper. They don’t like it up ’em (H/T Corporal Jones)

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    It is good when you can make fun of them. However, the opportunity doesn’t come around all the time.

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Didn’t Sheryl Sanberg and friends try to ban “bossy” last year?
    An unrecorded feminist fail.

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    And to bring this full circle to your cartoon…
    Why are the fembots prattling on about this minutae while women are getting raped by immigrants on the continent and they aren’t saying squat?

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    Because they’re completely uninterested in women beyond:
    a) hijacking their grievances whether real, unreal or laughable
    b) making sure that women always have such grievances (never, ever solve anything)

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  28. Yoda says:

    Because they’re completely uninterested in women beyond

    Who precisely “they” would be?

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  29. Yoda says:

    “Incredible Feminist Woman” superpowers she does have?

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  30. Spawny Get says:

    Yes, the power to ruin not just individual lives, but whole societies.

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  31. Yoda says:

    concise definition of exactly what Red Pill entails

    Thought that “purple pill” the issue was

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    “Who precisely “they” would be?”
    The rabid, whining, nagging, shrewish inhabitants of Fembotia

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    “An unrecorded feminist fail.”
    I wouldn’t say that Fuzzie

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    “a woman’s work is never done – which is why they get paid half as much”
    ho ho

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  35. BuenaVista says:

    There’s some theology here, so skip over it if that’s not your thing.

    In Christian thought we confront the nature of society (with its worldly sovereigns) and the nature of faith, which serves another sovereign (God). To boil it down the Bible suggests that we are to live in tension between the claims of these two sovereign claims. One is clearly superior. As a result, all Christians live as exiles, traveling the City that Is, while hoping for the City that Will Come (the New Jerusalem).

    A sovereign man walking with the bitter truths of the red pill in a feminized society — the City that Is is run now by Catherine MacKinnon devotees — he walks the landscape as, explicitly, an enemy of the people. For a while last year I thought we comprised a kind of secret society, and maybe we do, with ritualized references, secret handshake-internet-conventions, in-group chat, and the like. Certainly it’s utterly pointless to evangelize for the red pill, because in the City that Is, rote denunciations (fem-prog robot talking points, usually involving shaming and assignments of bigotry and bitterness, if not the outright criminality of fundamental masculinity) do not allow conversation. IOW, in our social existence we can live openly as agents provocateurs (Milo), we can live as furtive spies (e.g., a conventional investment banker advising younger men simply, “If it flies, floats or fucks, rent it;”) we can live as explanatory monks (Donovan, Frantzen, maybe Rollo). Or we can live as exiles.

    As exile functions within the City as Is, devoid of illusions, holding fast to what he knows. Inasmuch as action is character, and character is fate, his example draws curiosity and occasional affection. Compromising nothing, sovereign in intent and behavior, those swimming in the social failure of the postmodern, post-feminist world will likely be drawn to him. (Paradoxically, preaching redpill in the public square probably drives them off, as the red pill catechism is so heretical to what everyone has had pounded into them by mothers, culture and schools that it’s a little like asking a man to jump out of a plane without a parachute, and trusting a few ideas to catch him before hitting the ground.)

    That’s where I come out — an exile in a world I never anticipated, a stranger in a strange land. Oddly, as far as casual social living goes, I’m far less solitary than I was while pulling the cart for blue pill bosses. But yes, we will make manifest the truism “Everyone dies alone.” Of course, everyone, married or not, dies alone, confronts the void alone. But many of us are now choosing to confront and accept that reality, as the pretty veneer of our prior social pretensions has delaminated and crumbled. To be an exile is to value truth more than popular deceptions.

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  36. Tarnished says:

    Thought that “purple pill” the issue was

    In large part, yes, but if you noticed in the same thread, JDG and I even had different definitions for RP.

    “a woman’s work is never done – which is why they get paid half as much”

    And here I always thought it was “no rest for the wicked”. 😈

    “An unrecorded feminist fail.”
    I wouldn’t say that Fuzzie.

    Yeah, it was recorded pretty well by various bloggers and YouTubers. Although if the bear means recorded and acknowledged by MSM, well…

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  37. Tarnished says:

    Of course, everyone, married or not, dies alone, confronts the void alone. But many of us are now choosing to confront and accept that reality, as the pretty veneer of our prior social pretensions has delaminated and crumbled. To be an exile is to value truth more than popular deceptions.

    👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍

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  38. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    It would be encouraging if the mainstream media did run more stuff contrary to feminism.
    This business with Donald Trump objecting to Megyn Kelly moderating the debate may be a watershed moment. She is plainly biased and should have been dropped after the fiasco at the first debate.

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    Trump looks like he’s rejecting the usual RINO ploy of being a fool who knowingly walks into the den of thieves and thinking that he looks strong doing it. The fool doesn’t look strong, he looks like a mangina sucker. Who wants to vote for a willing Aunt Sally?

    Trump is taking a bit of risk, I hope it works out well for him. The difference between the Rep and Dem debates is disgusting. Everybody should have their feet held to the fire equally.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    from 47:45 – Battle of the sexes LMAO
    He then moves onto the subject of marriage as slavery. Decline in marriage etc. Marriage as financial rape of men for the rest of their life.

    56:35 Sex and the city II ROFLMAO
    must watch

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    Regarding the discussion on Sargon’s comment policy. Do you think that he’s paranoid over what commenters might say when this happens in Europe?
    ‘You Tweet A Lot… Watch Your Tone’: Cops Threaten Dutch Man For Opposing Govt Mass Migration Plans

    Dutch cops are policing anti-mass migration comments, even threatening social media users of “sedition” for opposing government policies. The news has emerged after police paid visits to warn multiple people who made anti-mass migration comments on social media, reports DW.com.

    Wasn’t sedition what they were going to hang Hawkeye for in ‘The last of the Mohicans’?
    (not suggesting that they want to hang the lovely Meinheer, just saying)

    Small towns in the Netherlands and in Germany have had to bear a disproportional cost for the migrant crisis, as governments have sent large amounts of migrants into or around these small towns. The migrants are often housed in nearby holiday resorts as in the case of Oranje, where a town of 140 people bore the brunt of having 700 refugees housed nearby. Angry locals tried to blockade the road to stop migrant filled busses from getting to the nearby resort but eventually gave up.

    The German government has stated the reason why it has sent so many migrants to small towns, saying, “the rural regions are a laboratory of integration,” citing the lack of ability for ghettos to emerge in smaller towns unlike cities. The government also mentions how migrants will shore up “dwindling populations” already in the countryside.

    The Dutch police have commented positively on their campaign and a spokesman has said that they find it effective. Mark Jongeneel has said he refuses to change his language on social media, emphasising his desire for free speech and saying, “I will not be silenced.”

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  42. Tarnished says:

    Spawny,
    Why do you think I only use my personal social media outlets for spreading stupid memes and demotivational pics? It’s safer that way.

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    The dickhead that wrote this was supposed to have been Prime Minister at one point. He lead the Conservative party. Now he appears to be off his meds.
    Western voters are very angry – and extremists are one crisis away from power

    The rise of Donald Trump shows how a moment’s loss of control over migration or another financial crash could topple our governments

    What the actual fuck. He must be on crack.

    And here’s the proof, if you still need more (strap in and brace)

    Of all the ministers, princes, party leaders and diplomats I worked with as Foreign Secretary, America’s Secretaries of State tended to be the most impressive. Hillary Clinton and John Kerry were entirely different from each other in their working habits but both enormously impressive in their energy, ideas and intellectual grasp. Of course, they had the advantage of a vast machine working for them, but the world is sadly full of people who have dozens of aides and are still not up to their job.
    These people were clearly in charge and excellent to work with, and these are things you cannot fake.

    (emphases mine)

    The comments are not going well for the bought and sold piece of shit politician (just an opinion, obviously)

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    “All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible…”

    FRANK HERBERT, Chapterhouse: Dune (1985)

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  45. Yoda says:

    The rise of Donald Trump shows how a moment’s loss of control over migration or another financial crash could topple our governments

    When leaders address issues not,
    find leaders who will do so voters will.

    Also, the issues “long term” they are.
    Momentary they are not

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  46. Spawny Get says:

    “When leaders address issues not,
    find leaders who will do so voters will.”
    Many comments there are that echo this sentiment, they do

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  47. Spawny Get says:

    This is just too funny
    Pride Goeth Before the Fall: Ailes Calls Trump’s Wife and Daughter

    Joe Scarborough revealed on Morning Joe Wednesday morning that Fox News CEO Roger Ailes had been trying to contact both Ivanka and Melania Trump hoping they could convince Trump to change his mind, but that Trump would only speak to Rupert Murdoch.

    Not looking good for the Me-Gyno ploy to whip up anti-Trump hysteria and viewing figures, is it?

    Delicious

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  48. Yoda says:

    Many comments there are that echo this sentiment, they do

    How to access these comments wants to know one does

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  49. Yoda says:

    Georgia,


    State lawmakers are sending a loud demand to Georgia colleges and universities about the way they should handle sexual assault or discrimination cases: more rights for the students facing the accusations.

    Georgia Tech was recently ordered to reinstate a student expelled for an alleged sexual assault. State Rep. Earl Ehrhart says he’s concerned about several pending lawsuits in Georgia with similar complaints about the lack of due process in these cases.

    “I just can’t, in good conscience, appropriate funds that the taxpayers of Georgia trust me with to people who can’t even do a due process policy to protect the kids who are in their care,” Ehrhart told university officials, including some from Georgia Tech, at a house subcommittee hearing Monday.

    http://news.wabe.org/post/ga-lawmakers-stress-due-process-campus-assault-cases

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    “I just can’t, in good conscience, appropriate funds that the taxpayers of Georgia trust me with to people who can’t even do a due process policy to protect the kids who are in their care,”

    That’s how it works for boys and men. You can’t persuade people that it’s a matter of natural justice FFS, you have to point out to the plebs that it’s costing them money.

    That’s part of the problem, if you ask me

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  51. Cill says:

    “Ailes Calls Trump’s Wife and Daughter”

    Bwaaha

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  52. Spawny Get says:

    Just seen in a discussion on Frau Merkin crashing the EU via immigration…
    “What’s the German for schadenfreude?”

    LMAO

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  53. Cill says:

    Once upon a time there were people called Germans.

    There was a Kaiser and a Hitler and a Merkel

    The End.

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  54. Cill says:

    “A little rich, I think.”
    Filthy, me old mate. 😉

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  55. Yoda says:

    There was a Kaiser and a Hitler and a Merkel

    Always find a way to leave Europe in ruins do they not?

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  56. thedeti says:

    This will be a long comment. Like BV’s above, it has some Christian musings, so skip this if you’re not interested.

    I read this with interest, as Farm Boy seems to quote me frequently around here. I also enjoyed BV’s comment, as usual.

    I’m familiar with the resolve and cold anger BV described. Since being dragged kicking and screaming into Red Pill awareness, I’ve learned a lot of ugly truths I didn’t know before. One of the things I can see as resolve, if you want to call it that, is a stern unshakable conviction that never again will I ever allow myself to be treated as I was during my Blue Pill days. I simply can’t. I cannot go back to that. It leads to a neverending vigil, an ever-watchfulness, even an expectation that others will surely try to cross and stomp all over the boundaries I set. I’m resigned to the fact that I’ve set boundaries that will have to be defended until I’m dead and six feet under; and that I really cannot trust anyone to respect them completely.

    I’m also resolved to what I might have to do to defend those boundaries, and the relationships I might have to circumscribe or even end, should they be crossed. To put a fine point on it – I used to believe that divorce wasn’t an option. That no matter what Mrs deti ever did, it could be worked out. I don’t believe that anymore. Should boundaries be crossed, should things not work out; should I be told that she intends to return my marriage to “the way it was”, divorce will be on the table and might be the only viable option. Blue Pill deti would never have said or believed anything like this. Blue Pill deti would never have brought up divorce and would never have been prepared to make that a reality should it become necessary.

    That drives a spike into my heart, for the lives and futures of my children. For me it’s too late, I have to live with what I know. I only hope to preserve for my children as much normalcy, material assets, and love and care as possible. Right now that appears to be quite possible, and things are stable. Nonetheless, it’s a boundary, and I now have no choice but to defend it to the end, should that be necessary.

    The resolve has jaded me. Made me more cynical and has shaken to its very core my faith in the inherent goodness of people. People are capable of great goodness, kindness and felicity. People are also capable of great evil, sin and cruelty. I’m now reluctantly resigned to the fact that people prefer their evil and sin to their good and kind natures. Evil and sin are default. Good and kind, everyone has to work at, and work hard at.

    My resolve has also pointed out to me that most people aren’t as resolved. Most people don’t know what we know, and aren’t ready to know it. I’m a member of a relatively small church in the small Midwestern city where I live. It has an anemic “men’s ministry”, which in the past has consisted of guys drinking coffee and orange juice and stuffing donuts into their pieholes on a Saturday morning here and there. They get together a few saturdays a month to self-flagellate over sexual sin and masturbation, confess their sexual sins, talk about things like “bouncing your eyes” to avoid looking too long at some woman you find attractive, they need to “do more chores” and love their wives as Christ loved the Church, etc.

    I’ve toyed with the idea of taking over the men’s ministry and starting to try introducing a bit of Red Pill into it. Things like telling men to be more assertive in having sex with their wives; single men should not even be trying to date in the church; looking for women who are interested instead of trying to qualify for a woman he likes; married men need to be the head of their wives and families (as in asserting authority over them); etc. I thought I might even suggest to some of these men that their wives also have marital obligations, and to examine what the Bible might say about that. The ghost of Joseph of Jackson looms, but there’s almost no chance of being excommunicated; the worst that would happen is the pastor would say “thanks but no thanks; someone else should do this”.

    The point is that I don’t know one man in my churchlet who’s ready to hear any of this, or that it might even resonate with him should I impart it. These men aren’t ready to hear any of this stuff. My resolve is different. Sometimes I wonder where that might take me, and them. Like BV, I am a stranger in a strange land. I can’t help but conclude I know things they don’t know, and they don’t want to know. I am walking amongst a sea of men and women, but I’m alone. I know things they need to know but I can’t tell them because I’m almost certain they’re not ready to know them.

    I remain alone. The first rule of Fight Club is… you don’t talk about Fight Club.

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  57. thedeti says:

    Almost certain they’re NOT ready to know them. Oops.

    [SG – fixed]

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  58. Yoda says:

    The ghost of Joseph of Jackson looms,

    My Jedi mind tricks worked on you they did.
    For the next post uses JoJ as an example it does.
    Perfect setup this would be

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  59. Yoda says:

    Actually two posts in the future it would be.
    When 900 years old you are, sometimes forget things you do

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  60. Yoda says:

    I read this with interest,

    Stick around Deti should.
    Over the next few months, some interesting topics come forth they will

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  61. ballista74 says:

    The ghost of Joseph of Jackson looms,

    For the next post uses JoJ as an example it does.

    Indeed it does. It will show up at my place eventually as well. If posting do that is …

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  62. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    “Once upon a time there were people called Germans.

    There was a Kaiser and a Hitler and a Merkel

    The End”.

    There were a few more but, now that you mention it, things have deteriorated over time.

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  63. Yoda says:

    Good to have Ballista74 here it is.
    Remember from long ago at Dalrock’s and SSMs I do

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  64. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Seconded.

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  65. Padawan says:

    .
    The Feminists’ Ode to Merkel’s Arse (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)

    “Into the chasm we deeper descend
    While raped girls scream, our silence we send,
    Let’s mind the arse of our Angela friend”

    The Kaiser and Hitler and Her, The End

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  66. Yoda says:

    Perhaps could have worked the word “bend” in there you could

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  67. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I’m not so sure about that, Yoda. An extra “end” sound would have been one too many, if you ask me.

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  68. Moehau Man says:

    As Mrs Moehau Man (my discerning old mum) called out just now “There can only be one end, especially if it’s endowed like a sheep’s heart.”

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  69. molly says:

    I made a dinner for someone special IRL. 🙂
    He will arrive soon. For Fuzzie and everyone in winter here’s some food to remind you of summer:

    Have a good day / night! 🙂 ❤

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    More from Dalrock on the recently released pastor from an Iranian jail. It looks like his wife has filed. What judge will entertain abuse from a prison halfway around the world?

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/honey-im-home/

    Treachery on this order is hard to concieve of.

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

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  72. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    More insanity. Appearantly, self defense is not an option in Denmark.

    http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2016/01/why-dont-they-just-hold-her-down.html

    I can see the law there to prosecute people who don’t use this properly. However, I couldn’t think of a more proper scenario.

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  73. Spawny Get says:

    Speaking of Ballista, I’ve just found an overlooked comment by him (late arrival on an older thread)
    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/01/20/the-manosphere-through-time-my-perceptions/#comment-46438

    Worth a look, I think. Especially by Dalrockians

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  74. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Hope for the future from Karen Straughan.

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  75. Spawny Get says:

    Oh Karen, your ignorance is sad to behold. EVERYONE knows who Snork Maiden is.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin

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  76. ballista74 says:

    Thanks for the welcome all…

    Hope for the future from Karen Straughan.

    And actually a great illustration of the problem I was trying to illustrate in the comment linked by SpawnyGet. You have to drive feminism out to its basic theoretical concepts (absolute female moral authority, male disposability, female infantilization) and address those. Effectively, the view of feminism is not that the concept of it is wrong, but that government administrates it. Feminism is quite alive and well. The top comment on that video by DoomRulz (and the whole thread) illustrate the problem as well:

    Let’s say feminism dies, hypothetically. So what? What about traditionalism and gynocentrism? We still wouldn’t have solved the problem. Men are still going to be seen as disposable tools.

    While he nails it, the problem is in identifying it as something different than what it is. Given the lack of emphasis on the choices of men and women (you get this because the whole “Red Pill” doctrine is fundamentally atheist) and in defining feminism incorrectly, feminism as a whole becomes an ingrained trait instead of a doctrine of choice ingrained by tradition. Karen Straughan illustrates her pro-feminism by this comment to DoomRulz:


    “If we’re going to be realistic, we have to face the possibility (and it’s not an infinitesimal one, either) that gynocentrism and male disposability are never going away.”

    When reckoned correctly, “feminism” as a whole is simply a disagreement between women on how to effectively rule men. So any activism actually becomes not anti-feminism, but a fight between two different systems of feminism. True anti-feminism is exceedingly rare, because most all (99.99%) of the people involved agree wholeheartedly with the concepts of feminism (traditional gender roles, etc). The only differences involve some minor rebellions against female infantilization and how the maintenance of female domination should occur. The fundamental concepts behind what the government does get unaddressed (e.g. child support), while there is opposition to what the government is doing. This is because government is effectively administrating traditional marriage in the first place – that other system of feminism.

    Anything that neglects to adequately address feminism fully will be a failure in terms of eliminating it. The fact that so many supposed anti-feminists neglect to address it fully ultimately betrays their deceptions behind their actual support.

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  77. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Thanks for your input. I have to concur. We’ll only be rid of gynocentrism if there’s about seven men for every tn women. At that point, they will compete with each other rather than cooperate to dominate men. That would only last for one generation.

    I thnk that men will be at a perpetual disadvantage because we are more sweet on girls than they are sweet on boys.

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  78. Cill says:

    In a democracy, men are at a disadvantage because women have in-group bias and men don’t. Hypergamy is a feature of this bias.

    The bias of “victims” inevitably becomes left wing ideology. The in-group bias of feminism is bound to skew democracy as it is inherent in more than half the population, is left wing, and therefore has the unconditional support of the loopy-lefty women and male sycophants of the MSM.

    As long as men tolerate such nonsense as gender studies, feminism will continue to be a blight on democracy.

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  79. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    I think that you just outlined why men have to band together over this, something that has never happened before.

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  80. Yoda says:

    Is “Snork” not Darth Emo’s boss?

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  81. Yoda says:

    “Patriachy or Bust” the battle cry should be

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  82. Spawny Get says:

    It’s not hard, I’m frankly disappointed over Karen’s ignorance
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin

    Snork Maiden: Moomin’s girlfriend. She is happy and energetic, but often suddenly changes her mind on things. She loves nice clothes and jewelry and is a little flirtatious.

    The Snork : Snorkmaiden’s brother. He is an introvert by nature and is always inventing things. The residents of Moominvalley often ask Snork for help solving tricky problems and building machines. Snorks are like moomintrolls, but change colour according to their mood. Also, unlike moomintrolls, they have hair on their heads.

    [SG – edited to reflect quoteyness of content]

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  83. Yoda says:

    In a democracy, men are at a disadvantage because women have in-group bias and men don’t.

    Can anybody the truth of this they dispute?
    Can anybody the impact of this they dispute

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  84. Spawny Get says:

    Snork and Snork Maiden are in the clip above (at 2:00)

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  85. Cill says:

    Girl Writes What says “Snorrk”.

    Damn. I just like the way a Canadian pronounces “Snork”. Also “shark” and “horse”. Sometimes I strive with my travelled friends to reproduce those North American accents exactly, and fail.

    Shark. Sharrk. Shork. Shorrick…

    Nope, not even close.

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  86. Cill says:

    Spawny at 11:25 am

    Loved your sensitive explanation there, mate. 😉

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  87. Cill says:

    No offence

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  88. Spawny Get says:

    I vaguely remember Moomintroll on TV but was never a fan. Snork Maiden is just too good a name not to have stuck in my memory though. It’s translated from Scandinavian stories and it gained something in translation, I reckon.

    Looking at the article this stuff is more your era than mine…(!!!) I thought it was seventies stuff, but it seems that it wasn’t, not in the form that I recognise anyway.

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  89. Spawny Get says:

    Did you miss this?

    “Paul Ryan looks like the kind of kid that got bullied a lot at school. At least I’d like to think he did.”

    Now Cill will get it. Choicy too. Molly maybe. Did anyone else laugh?

    It’s the banality of the words coupled with the sheer cuntitude of the sentiment that cracks me up.

    any reaction?

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  90. Cill says:

    “It’s the banality of the words coupled with the sheer cuntitude of the sentiment that cracks me up.”

    I reckon!

    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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  91. Cill says:

    Great to laugh to your sense of humour again. I’m flat tack on a certain project, otherwise I’d be enjoying more time with you here. I’m fucking stonkered mate. See you tomorrow.

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  92. Yoda says:

    Corbyn looks like a bum off the street he does

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  93. Spawny Get says:

    It’s hard work ignoring reality for as many decades as Comrade Corbyn…and it shows.

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  94. Yoda says:

    The point is that I don’t know one man in my churchlet who’s ready to hear any of this

    Sometimes small bites at a time do work.
    Especially when spread out through time they are.
    Much work to implement this is

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  95. Yoda says:

    The resolve has jaded me

    Better to be ignorant and flailing it would be?
    Or better to in charge of oneself and jaded it is?

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  96. Yoda says:

    has shaken to its very core my faith in the inherent goodness of people

    Never really believed in the inherent goodness of people I did.
    My life as a Jedi provided confirmation it has

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  97. Yoda says:

    “If we’re going to be realistic, we have to face the possibility (and it’s not an infinitesimal one, either) that gynocentrism and male disposability are never going away.”

    Perhaps male disposability never go away it will.
    But could compensating factors there once was
    Much of the the current problem is because society forgot this they did

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  98. Yoda says:

    Anything that neglects to adequately address feminism fully will be a failure in terms of eliminating it.

    First thing to address the feminine imperative it would be.
    For most of the legal evil flows from it it does

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  99. Yoda says:

    When reckoned correctly, “feminism” as a whole is simply a disagreement between women on how to effectively rule men

    Wonder if better this would be,

    When reckoned correctly, “feminism” as a whole is simply a disagreement between women on how to effectively extract resources from men

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  100. Yoda says:

    Cill do posts on his work with young men he should

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  101. Tarnished says:

    I simply can’t. I cannot go back to that. It leads to a neverending vigil, an ever-watchfulness, even an expectation that others will surely try to cross and stomp all over the boundaries I set.

    This is a very real danger for those in any type of relationship, but most especially in “committed” (aka government sanctioned and controlled) ones. It is a good thing indeed that this truth regarding the unfairness of marriage is making its way into the western world, albeit slowly and with much resistance.

    Better to be ignorant and flailing it would be?
    Or better to in charge of oneself and jaded it is?

    The latter is better, certainly.
    It’s also the more depressing option.
    But it is preferable to be cynical, mentally healthy, and aware than to be naive, ignorant, and used by those who don’t care about you as a fellow human being.

    Never really believed in the inherent goodness of people I did.

    Never? That’s impressive, even for a Jedi.
    I think we all began life believing people all have some inherent sense of goodness in them. That is, until we are proven wrong by the very ones we should be able to trust above all.

    There is only 1 person I’d trust to that extent, out of all the people I interact with. It takes a certain kind of mindset to not crumble under the realization that so few people give a shit about each other. And those of us who do always have to be extremely cautious and learn cynicism/suspicion to avoid being taken advantage of.

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  102. Yoda says:

    Release happen it must,


    It’s official: Jackie, the woman whose tall tale of a gang-rape captivated readers of Rolling Stone in late 2014, will have to turn over her communications as part of a lawsuit.

    However, the communications will be labeled confidential, so we won’t be able to read them unless they are leaked.

    The lawsuit was filed by Dean Nicole Eramo, who was portrayed in the Rolling Stone article as a callous administrator who cared more about the University of Virginia’s image than the safety and well-being of sexual assault victims. As part of her lawsuit, Eramo’s lawyers had requested communications between the dean and Jackie relating to the student’s alleged sexual assault.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rolling-stone-rape-hoaxer-ordered-to-release-communications/article/2581586

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  103. Yoda says:

    A dead white man he is.

    Lord Jeffery Amherst, the colonial-era military commander who gave this town its name, will no longer represent the prestigious liberal arts college here.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/us/amherst-college-drops-lord-jeff-as-mascot.html

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  104. Yoda says:

    Pr0n,

    Teens and older adults in America are shifting to virtual sex, choosing pornography “because it is less risky than actually having sex,” according to a blockbuster new survey of porn in America.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/study-teens-adults-opting-for-porn-less-risky-than-actually-having-sex/article/2581554

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  105. thedeti says:

    “Let us consider Red Pill men (and women). Probably they were searching for answers when they came upon it. Why were they searching for answers? Undoubtedly because of frustrations and failures in relationships with the other sex. Furthermore, undoubtedly many were spurred on by the nagging notion that there was something wrong about the situation in general; that there was something that they were not telling us.”

    Yes, this is pretty much it. Most people who come to the red pill were unhappy in their relationships, and they want to be happy. They want happiness in their relationships, and to be happy with their relationships. They’re unhappy.

    They also are keenly aware that something’s wrong. They know they’ve missed something. They know there’s something they aren’t seeing or don’t know. They know they’re doing something wrong; or that someone is doing something wrong to them.

    The third thing to add is that Red Pill offers a comprehensive model of sexual dynamics, male-female sexual relationships, and a man’s relationship to the rest of the world. The feminist “gender and sex and everything is a social construct” is ultimately unsatisfying because there is so much that remains unexplained. Red Pill explains it in a way that is both internally and externally consistent.

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  106. Yoda says:

    Red Pill explains it in a way that is both internally and externally consistent.

    So very important this is
    Emphasized too much it cannot be

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  107. BuenaVista says:

    The problem with feminism:

    Richard Feynman: “It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.”

    Or, feminism is not explanatory of male-female socio-sexual dynamics. Red Pill is.

    ***

    I had an interesting test of resolve/resoluteness last night.

    As some of you know, I was hurt pretty badly 18 months ago, and nearly died. What none of you know was I was also disabled in 2012.

    Anyhow, being pretty far along in the the RP maturation process, I nonetheless had expectations 18 months ago that, in retrospect, were quite blue pill. As in, my children might visit me in the hospital inasmuch I had a 50% survival rate quoted to me. Instead, my daughter told me on the phone “I’m fed up!”, my son #1 was busy riding his bicycle from Tahoe to Maine, and son#2’s mother wouldn’t let me speak with him.

    This precipitated my last step across the rubicon. I realized that I wasn’t a father at all to my children, at least as I defined it. When their mother divorced me and took them and my home, I became merely a kindly uncle with the juice to pay the bills.

    We are required to forgive the trespasses of others; we are required not to trespass ourselves; we are not required to be a lifelong stooge, a willing donkey for people who wish for us to pay their bills and make them feel good about themselves. As Deti noted, once a man decides that he is allowed to be a man, and chooses to be a man, most everyone in his orbit either flips out or stands in mute silence. Resistance, in the form of explanation, is futile.

    So I’m far away now from my prior life and I no longer flatter and enrich and attempt to purchase affection. This alarms people.

    Anyway, the anecdote: my oldest friend, whom I’ve known since I was 5, called me last night. It seems my ex-wife had called him, to say that “everyone” is concerned by my silences. This is the woman who terminated our family, tried the SIW lifestyle for a couple of years, then married an 85% scale model of me — a beta bux dude who likes to pretend on FB that my children are his.

    Understand, I think of my ex-wife every day and events notwithstanding, cannot dam the river of feelings that remain.

    I advised my friend that he should not be her intermediary, that she could write me a letter like anyone else, and that I would write her to request that she not complicate my relationship with my friend by involving him in her psychodrama. She just wants to feel good about herself, and hear me tell her that I am her friend for life. I am not. She blew up our family for no reason and my children will never experience the trust and comfort of a stable family and a loving father.

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  108. Tarnished says:

    BV,

    I know we don’t get along most of the time, but you have my sympathy, sir.
    Nobody should have to come to such a harsh realization while lying in a hospital bed, possibly confronting their own mortality. I am sorry this happened to you.

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  109. Yoda says:

    She just wants to feel good about herself, and hear me tell her that I am her friend for life. I am not. She blew up our family for no reason

    Seems to happen much it does.
    Farm Boy a similar story he does tell.

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  110. Tarnished says:

    Farm Boy divorced like Spawny and BV, or married like Yoda he is? Never remember I can.

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  111. Tarnished says:

    Apologies.
    Nobody can be married as Yoda is. None of the rest of us are that…Forceful.

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  112. Yoda says:

    For 800 years married I have been.

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  113. Tarnished says:

    That is quite the accomplishment, Yoda.
    I’m guessing it has a lot to do with the readily available soup and sandwiches?

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  114. Yoda says:

    I’m guessing it has a lot to do with the readily available soup and sandwiches?

    The inspiration for the Panera Bread Eatery I am

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  115. Yoda says:

    The point is that I don’t know one man in my churchlet who’s ready to hear any of this, or that it might even resonate with him should I impart it. These men aren’t ready to hear any of this stuff.

    Wonder what take it would to make them see

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  116. Tarnished says:

    The inspiration for the Panera Bread Eatery I am

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  117. Tarnished says:

    Wonder what take it would to make them see

    Sometimes, no matter how calm or sane the message is, it isn’t believed. You can’t save everyone, as unfortunate as that is. There are guys that I’ve tried to help see the pieces of RP that I know are true for the majority, and even that is too much for ’em.

    The Blue has sharp claws that sink in deep.

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  118. Liz says:

    “Anyhow, being pretty far along in the the RP maturation process, I nonetheless had expectations 18 months ago that, in retrospect, were quite blue pill. As in, my children might visit me in the hospital inasmuch I had a 50% survival rate quoted to me. Instead, my daughter told me on the phone “I’m fed up!”, my son #1 was busy riding his bicycle from Tahoe to Maine, and son#2’s mother wouldn’t let me speak with him.

    This precipitated my last step across the rubicon. I realized that I wasn’t a father at all to my children, at least as I defined it. When their mother divorced me and took them and my home, I became merely a kindly uncle with the juice to pay the bills.”

    So sorry, BV.
    😦

    It’s probably very likely, that your first two children perceive you as being very strong and the danger of your condition didn’t really register for them. I know it didn’t register for me that my Dad would ever REALLY be in physical trouble. Not even when he was hit by a truck on his motorcycle in his 60s, when I was in college. It wasn’t because I didn’t care (I DID go to see him in the hospital, but even there it didn’t register for me…he was just always a “rock”, you know? Until the last six years after his stroke when it dawned on me that he was human after all).

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  119. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That is so f*cking cold! That there is no guilt for blowing up the family for no reason is like alcohol on an open wound.
    You did mention “crossing the Rubicon” and I thought of this brilliant monologue.
    I hope that it helps.

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  120. Liz says:

    “Treachery on this order is hard to concieve of.”

    It really, really is Fuzzie. In a word: Horrifying.
    I gave her the benefit of the doubt for a long while.
    I can’t imagine what this is like for her husband considering all the stress he was already under. And their children. What a mess.
    She should be hit with a “sod off” shotgun.
    ‘Nuff said.

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  121. Liz says:

    Just to add, plus, BV…you’re not that old. Doing the math, my Dad was in his LATE sixties when he broke his ribs. And it still didn’t down on me he was ever, or could ever, really be in mortal danger (yes, I was that stupid). You look younger than you are, and you’re athletic (like he was) you are probably still superman in your kids’ minds. And youth is pretty selfish and they feel indestructable so they likely project that onto you too.

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  122. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get at 1:08pm,
    You showed how the Labour Party’s popularity faded while they embraced feminism. I think something similar could be made for our Democratric Party. The problem with embracing feminism is that they have tossed working families under the bus and, now, they have NO political representation.

    I can’t see the reason for the economy being moribund at this time. The only thing that I can point to is the cumulative effect of supporting feminism. In doing so, you coud just as well toss the money into a hole in the ground. With working famililes, they would do something with it, increasing the velocity of money.

    As for the economy being moribund, WalMart has closed 269 stores, unprecedented. Las Vegas is promoting $29/night room rates something that only happens in dre economic times.

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  123. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I don’t think that Farm Boy will talk directly about this. He married a woman who frivorced him. It was made all the worse because he bonded well with his stepson.

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  124. Yoda says:

    A new post there would be

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  125. Tarnished says:

    I don’t think that Farm Boy will talk directly about this. He married a woman who frivorced him. It was made all the worse because he bonded well with his stepson.

    I was unaware of this fact, Fuzzie. It might’ve been covered in a post or comment during one of my not-around-due-to-busy times. My question, though phrased in Yodish, was a serious one. Thanks for letting me know.

    Btw…I think that’s the closest you’ve ever come to cursing that I have ever seen.
    I’m very proud.  😉

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  126. Spawny Get says:

    Looking at last year’s DalData
    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/02/07/2014-never-married-data/
    The odds of a 30-34 yo woman getting married for the first time within the next 5 years are dropping away.

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  127. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    If Dalrock holds to the pattern, we’ll have info for 2015 in two weeks. Thanks.
    Something is happening in the SMP and men are getting bamboozled. I need to sleep on this. However, this is way out of line with my experience internet dating.

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  128. Spawny Get says:

    Hi Fuzzie, yeah I am hoping that the scheduling holds for this year. My first take on the 2014 results on Dalrock’s site was that it looked like the chance of women 30-34 getting married for the first time had dropped below 40%. There are many, many fine graphs that could be produced from the numbers. It makes sense to wait a couple of weeks and use the latest ones. Don’t forgetthat we’re always looking at older data…the reality is always likely to be worse.

    Sweet dreams, look after yourself…we’re not responsible, we’re just along for the ride with a lunatic at the wheel of the bus.

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  129. Spawny Get says:

    That’s the way to do it
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html

    Oxford University’s statue of Cecil Rhodes is to stay in place after furious donors threatened to withdraw gifts and bequests worth more than £100 million if it was taken down, The Daily Telegraph has learnt.
    The governing body of Oriel College, which owns the statue, has ruled out its removal after being warned that £1.5m worth of donations have already been cancelled, and that it faces dire financial consequences if it bows to the Rhodes Must Fall student campaign.
    A leaked copy of a report prepared for the governors and seen by this newspaper discloses that wealthy alumni angered by the “shame and embarrassment” brought on the 690-year-old college by its own actions have now written it out of their wills.
    The college now fears a proposed £100m gift – to be left in the will of one donor – is now in jeopardy following the row.
    The donors were astonished by a proposal to remove a plaque marking where Rhodes lived, and to launch a six-month consultation over whether the statue of the college’s biggest benefactor should be taken down.

    Even lefty, right-on ‘academics’ lose the taste for outrage when their own wages are on the line.

    The report warns that there will now “almost certainly” be “one or two redundancies” in its Development Office team because of the collapse in donations. And it has cancelled an annual fundraising drive that should have taken place in April. The report also warns that Oriel’s development office could now make an operating loss of around £200,000 this year.
    Sean Power, Oriel’s development director and the man in charge of fundraising, told the governors in a report that the college was unprepared for the national and international condemnation of the suggestion that the statue might be removed, described by the classicist Professor Mary Beard as a “completely barking” plan to “erase” history.
    Mr Power wrote that: “The overall reaction has been significant, much more than any in the College predicted. It has also been overwhelmingly negative of the College’s position and its actions.
    “The likely long-term impact on development and fundraising, assuming our current course of action regarding the statue, is potentially extremely damaging…our alumni do not need many excuses not to give, and for many this will be such an excuse for years to come.

    Some people have alleged that Mary Beard is a fucked in the head lefty drone. I am not in a position (at this time) to deny such allegations.

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  130. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Finally, someone found a way to thwart the SJWs.
    In the wake of the white shooter in a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, the remains of Nathan Bedford Forrest, Confederate States Army and his wife were dug up in Memphis, Tennessee.
    That was rude.

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