Where the Men Aren’t


Commenter Buena Vista recently asserted,

What I found remarkable (and a feminist blogger did not, because didn’t fit her worldview) was the 3-1 ratio of men opting out v. women. If retrospect, the women were just presaging AFBB/Open Hypergamy. (“Oh, definitely, I’ll get married after I have fun for a few years.”) Also remarkable: the study emerged from one of 10 liberal foundations that contribute 90% of liberal political cause donations. (The demon Kochs are nowhere to be found on that list, because their supposedly democracy-destroying foundation is too small.) And last, the feminist rejoinder that “who cares if a bunch of plumbers never marry, I’m joining the one percent when I get married, so that’s the only cohort that matters.”

But back in DC, the men who fit the economic model for the girls, by the time they’re forty, are not signing up in sufficient numbers to pull some girl’s wagon. They’ve already been flayed by the divorce industry. And the girls are melting down.

These are UMC (or desire to be UMC) women, looking for UMC men.  Will they find them?  Just by considering the demographics at Universities for the last 30 years, the answer would be no.  This is, of course, based on the assumption that the gateway to the UMC is through the University degree.

But beyond that, do UMC men want these high-powered women for marriage?  In my case, I am the edge of the UMC both in terms of income and prestige.  Though I surely don’t live the typical UMC lifestyle (conspicuous consumption, socializing (a.k.a.  posturing), etc.).  Living in fly-over country, we have our own version of these high-powered women– University degree(s), fast track in management, lots of adulation and awards.  In other words, lots of puffery and not so much reality (see the previous post on humility).  In my bluest of blue pill days I was never attracted to such women.

The question is why?  The short answer is that they were not value add; rather they were value subtract.  And that was before financial considerations were made.  I could see that they were extremely high maintenance, and would demand that I always be at my best so that they could show me off and get a hypergamic buzz.  They would always be arguing for their own way, primarily because they always previously had gotten their own way.  Furthermore, they did not have the wherewithal to see that they were living a lie (puffed up by affirmative action, natural attraction from men, etc.)

But then, that was me.  And perhaps I do not generalize well to other men.  Deti states,

Regarding Susan Walsh and HUS:

It bears repeating and recalling that SW has always been geared toward a very narrow, specialized demographic: politically liberal, upper middle class and upper class non-black women, aged 18-30, college educated or in college, planning on a career, and living in urban areas.

In other words, women who were her daughter 5 years ago; and women who were Susan Walsh 35 years ago.

That’s who her blog is geared towards. Consequently, the trends that affect those women are the only ones that matter to her and are the only ones she sees. And what she sees are those women, generally, doing very well and marrying by age 35, to men who look quite a bit like them demographically (except for their gender). And most of those marriages succeed (as long as we define “success” as “not getting divorced”), because the divorce rate in the US right now is lowest for men and women where both parties are college educated, upper middle class and up, and married after age 27 or so.

So to folks like SW, there are no real problems, because her clientele will statistically get married eventually. She views her job as getting her girls married off by age 40 with as few pump and dumps as possible. And she’ll likely do pretty well, mostly because this cohort of rich, liberal, white college girls from the coasts working in cubicle jobs in HR and PR do OK on their own finding men willing to marry them, as they always have from time immemorial.

Deti suggests that thees women do eventually get a man.  Perhaps it is not the ideal man that was envisioned in their minds, but a man all the same.  Effectively they are alpha-widows, and will never really have a good marriage;  dragging their husband and kids down to their misery.  They will not divorce, so there is that.  Still, in many cases, one wonders if for all, divorce would be better.

To summarize, high-powered women will invariably be disappointed by the crop of men that they can select from.  And their future husbands and their children will pay the price.

 

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113 comments on “Where the Men Aren’t
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Also in my fly-over country domain are many “less-high-powered women”. They are just scaled-down version of the high-powered women; their issues might be scaled back also, but they still didn’t make it over my threshold.

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    So how many of these types of women truly are getting married?

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Is it just me or, are these women demanding that they be carried throughout their lives? They can’t possibly do anything useful.

    About meeting, it hadn’t dawned on me until Captian Capitalism said, in one of his videos, there is no place where women gather to seek men. In their efforts to gain advantage at each and every venue, they have managed to ruin them all. Even church.

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  4. I hope not to be that type of gal, although I suppose from a distance bc of my age, occupation, and other factors I may on the surface look like one. And as I shared previously at one time I myself had drank the kook aid and was in some ways on the track toward a feminist poster child life. Some folks still try to flog me on in that direction yet, but after the red pill opened my eyes, I opted out. No thanks. Someone else can be the poster child of the SIW so that others can point to her and clap and say, “see, it’s working!!!” (for very few.) Nope, I’ll pass! 🙂

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic but, deserves to be distributed widely.
    http://bobagard.blogspot.com/2016/01/no-bill-thats-not-what-she-means.html

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  6. Yoda says:

    Dresses like a Bond villain Hillary does.

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    How many are getting married? According to Deti, unless they are profoundly inept, all of them and on their schedule. However, I think that men are becoming more discerning and the window is closing.

    Bloom,
    Given whay tou do, it seems that reality is more constructive to deal with than blue pill fantasy.

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  8. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Hillary doesn’t dress like a Bond villian. It’s more like Austin Powers.

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If Hillary does get the nomination, then men will have to do something unprecedented, they will have to make gender a primary consideration in their vote. No doubt, Hillary will cast herself as the candidate for women.

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  10. Yoda says:

    Is it just me or, are these women demanding that they be carried throughout their lives?

    Next few post touch upon this they will

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  11. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Bear in suspense he is.

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  12. Yoda says:

    it seems that reality is more constructive to deal with than blue pill fantasy.

    Oddly enough, to see human nature people do refuse.
    The biggest reality that they see not it is

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  13. Yoda says:

    According to Deti, unless they are profoundly inept, all of them and on their schedule

    “Settle” so many do.
    Not sure that counts this does

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I saw this while watching Sargon of Akkad’s This Week in Stupid.
    What the heck?

    http://newobserveronline.com/white-war-refugees-not-allowed-in-germany/

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    “Settle” means not realizing her htpergamic ideal.
    Now I know why ten gallon hats are out of fashion.

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  16. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Abot the Ukrainian refugees, they would be demographically the opposite of the Muslims. Nost would be women and able to compete in the SMP.

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  17. Yoda says:

    New post over here it is.

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  18. Yoda says:

    But back in DC, the men who fit the economic model for the girls, by the time they’re forty, are not signing up in sufficient numbers to pull some girl’s wagon.

    Wonder how really talented thes DC girls are I do.
    Wonder how scrupulous they are I wonder also.

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  19. Yoda says:

    And last, the feminist rejoinder that “who cares if a bunch of plumbers never marry, I’m joining the one percent when I get married, so that’s the only cohort that matters.”

    Two issues here there is.
    1. For society to be healthy, working class men healthy they must be.
    2. Do these women (a large number they would be) really believe that so desirable they are that entry into the 1% all but guaranteed it is?

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  20. Yoda says:

    And the girls are melting down.

    If melt down they do,
    a compensating reaction they probably do have.
    Perhaps,
    go back home to the farm they do?
    doubke down on trapping techniques?
    show more skin?
    resort to blackmail?
    what else?

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  21. Yoda says:

    Wonder how much “value add” to society these women are I do

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  22. Yoda says:

    With 2/3 of university students women they are,
    Women unhappy with results they would be.
    But never desire to address this they do.

    As if, “An awesome man I want and deserve, but for men as a whole (and other women), I say FU”

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  23. Yoda says:

    Many campus activists seem to want anyone accused of sexual assault on a college campus to be removed from society, yet they don’t want to give the students tools to defend their futures.

    I briefly touched on this in an article on Tuesday, about proposed legislation that would make it nearly impossible for students found responsible for sexual misconduct to transfer to another school and continue their education. If misconduct hearings are a “learning experience,” as some college administrators have said, then halting a student’s learning seems like a bad way to go.

    An obvious comparison would be to disciplinary hearings involving plagiarism, as students can be expelled for that as well, but there are distinct differences. For one, plagiarism is not a crime in broader society. For another, there’s no ambiguity about plagiarism — once the accusation is made, the evidence is either there or it isn’t. It never comes down to a he said/she said situation.

    Not so with sexual assault. Schools should not be able claim they are merely adjudicating school policy when they are in fact adjudicating an actual criminal offense. And given that the campus process frequently punishes the accused despite reasonable doubt (many such cases are not prosecuted in criminal court for this reason), it is unreasonable to go beyond expulsion to imposing the death penalty on an accused student’s future educational prospects.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/what-do-activists-want-from-students-accused-of-sexual-assault/article/2581045

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  24. Maybe the SW’s of the world are counting on their sisters to raise the dutiful blue pill boys who will man up and marry these prima donnas? Except there’s a catch, their darling girls don’t want THOSE boys. They want the bad boy who will magically turn into the dutiful workhorse, but not lose his bad boy edge. But who will be beta faithful. Or basically, fried ice.

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  25. Tarnished says:

    I hope not to be that type of gal, although I suppose from a distance bc of my age, occupation, and other factors I may on the surface look like one.

    Sad thing for other ladies similar to Bloom is that the Fems have made it so many men believe/are starting to believe that 99.9% of WALT. It’s truly gotten to the point where even a good RP woman, who wants and will also actively deliver a traditional lifestyle that a decent amount of men crave is completely up a creek. :/

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  26. Tarnished says:

    Honestly, it seems to be the same even for Purple Pillers…there’s a lot of men I know who take what they will from RP (though most don’t know it as such) but still look for a partner who is what they were taught women are like. I really fear for some of them…it’s too easy for such a guy to be taken advantage of. If only there were more females willing to be purple and actively look for purple males. *sigh*

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  27. @ tarn how would you describe a purple male?

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  28. Spawny Get says:

    “a purple male”
    often, even a red pill guy who thinks he’s found a unicorn.

    because the programming and instincts are that strong.

    sad but true

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  29. Cill says:

    This should probably be a post. I don’t know… I’m in 2 minds about it:
    I could write from the perspective of a man who is what women want but who doesn’t need a woman.

    I come under pressure from women. My singleness frustrates them. I reckon it’s because they can’t stand the thought of a man not needing women – especially if he is “marriageable”. I’ve overheard them say it, “someone has to break him.” When a man comes from the percentage that is “good enough” for women, they don’t like the thought of him being one of the ones who has opted out. They don’t like it at all.

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  30. Cill says:

    “I’m in 2 minds about it”: how can I write such a post without coming across as a big head? I’ve managed to do that already at 6:16.

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  31. Cill says:

    Choicy could write it I guess. He’s in the same position. We could write about each other…

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    “someone has to break him.” :0

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    “We could write about each other…”

    Given the quality of what he produced last time, yes please

    And/Or you do it. No skin off my nose if you’re (rightly) considered more marriageable than I.

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    Chunk o’Booger and his chums speak talk bollocks on a level much higher than usual (yeah, I know. I really know). Dem TYTties set a high bar for bullshit, but respect where it’s due…they flew over that bar

    fuck nuts

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  35. Yoda says:

    Post Cill and Choicy should

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  36. Tarnished says:

    How would you describe a purple male?

    About the same as I would a Purple Pill female: They have their finger on the pulse of both male and female troubles, rights, privileges, etc.

    Not Blue Pill, because they don’t believe crap like “the male gaze is oppressive”, “only men can be rapists”, or that “women only make 70 cents for every dollar a man does”. Purple Pillers understand that sexism can and does affect all of us to varying degrees, and yes, men do in fact get the short end of the stick many, many times.

    But they’re also not Red Pill, because they aren’t Traditionalists and don’t see a definitive, set in stone need for a lot of gender roles because it doesn’t work in the context of their personal experiences or relationships (that’s not to say they think gender roles aren’t helpful to others). There’s a base understanding and acceptance of certain Red Pill truths; that most women want to be wined-and-dined by the “top” males (hypergamy), will chase bad boys in their younger years but then want a steady provider (AFBB), and will shit test their men to prove various strengths, and that most men will have to deal with these things.

    A Purple Pill male or female knows these things occur, but do not deal with such things in their own relationships, because their SO doesn’t act like that. I’m definitely Purple, and my FwB has gone from being very Blue when I first met him to Purple currently, partially due to his job change and partially due to my talking about what I read online.

    I usually sum it up this way:

    BP = Not All Women Are Like That
    RP = All Women Are Like That
    PP = Enough Women Are Like That

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    How about
    NAWALT + but who gives a shit, I’m not interested.

    I’ll be sticking with red-pill, ta

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    Too good to leave accidentally languishing on the old thread

    Strap back in…this one will have you ROTFLYAO

    Perhaps Yoda and/or Darth Maul can explain the issue…please

    Tarn prolly hasa clue too

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    Ouch, just started this

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/25/full-extent-of-germany-migrant-sex-attacks-revealed-incidents-in-12-of-16-states/

    Also, related, if you have any fond feeling for Dean Esmay (I sorta did, from the old days of AVFM) then you may wish to send flowers to the funeral for his credibility

    RIP Dean Esmay’s credibility (not sure if it was already dead, but if not, this killed it)

    Dean arrives at around 11:30 in. The bit preceding that is typical, amusing InternetAristocrat stuff. But skip if you like

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  41. Tarnished says:

    How about
    NAWALT + but who gives a shit, I’m not interested.

    Well, that there’s a proper MGTOW position, mate.  😊👍

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  42. Tarnished says:

    Idk wtf happened to Esmay, or JtO for that matter. They both used to be decent and credible, worth a listen or two, but now…

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  43. Tarnished says:

    Something I forgot to mention above:

    If you’re a Purple woman in ANY type of relationship with a Blue man (relative, friend, sibling, partner, spouse, etc) I think you have a responsibility to educate them regarding the majority truth of the world we live in. Otherwise, you’re letting the males in your life walk around a minefield while blindfolded.

    Even if they don’t listen or believe you, at least you can say you tried.

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    JtO…I’m waiting to see what he ends up saying. I think he’s very wrong on this issue, probably because he’s underestimating the lugenpresse effect (sue me if I remembered it wrong, on my kindle now). It’s not like I won’t allow the odd hiccup. My views are here

    But Dean wasn’t just wrong initially, he then argued all over the place like an illogical SJW. It was so embarrassing.

    If JtO just puts his hands up and admits that he fucked up…I’m fine with that.

    If you don’t see the difference, you must not have listened to the interview that I linked. 😉

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  45. Tarnished says:

    No, there’s a big difference. But we’re still waiting on JtO, nonetheless. It’s just sad, how everything has gone down lately.

    Shit’s being said, but not the right type.

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  46. Yoda says:

    JTO and DE enticed by money and/or validation they were?

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  47. Spawny Get says:

    JtO just went full JtO…which I usually enjoy…on the wrong subject. I’d love him to move along to the next subject.

    Dean might be suffering from major stress issues, if that’s the case? I hope he takes a break, chills out and unwinds. In his current state he’s not doing anyone any favours.

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  48. Spawny Get says:

    JtO isn’t like that. Dean, if anything, is a bit of a lefty hippy type. He sounded like an sjw in his arguments, but he lacks the sjw viciousness.

    They both heard the initial reports and assumed it was the usual femeroid lies…because it usually is in these cases. And it wasn’t.

    After that, Dean is going full on NTDWI and that is plain beaulux. It’s everything to do with it.

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    So, to be clear, I’m not impugning the intentions or motivations of either.

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    For the eurosceptics amongst us
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/suncolumnists/trevorkavanagh/6884018/The-game-is-up-for-the-ailing-EU-says-Trevor-Kavanagh.html

    Trevor Kavanagh: UK in or out, the game is up for the ailing EU
    European Union’s ‘Grand Project’ is crumbling under pressure from mass immigration, economic and political paralysis AND a looming global slowdown

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  51. Tarnished says:

    Fair enough, Spawny. 😉

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  52. Yoda says:

    Men at work they are,

    The leaders of The World Economic Forum, an elite gathering of 2,500 of the world’s corporate, political, entrepreneurial and media leaders, convened in Switzerland last week and announced they have a problem.

    There are too many men in the group.

    To remedy it, male CEOs from 10 different companies have joined forces with feminists such as Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg in a mission to achieve gender parity by 2020.

    “While half the companies come close to parity in their overall employment,” notes USA Today, “none of the 10 companies have parity in the boardroom.”

    Companies do a good job at the entry level, says Pat Milligan, global leader of When Women Thrive. But when women get to higher levels, they leave.

    Dennis Nally, chairman of PwC, is perplexed as to why this is so. “If you start with parity on day one, why aren’t we making progress? We think it’s about data. We think it’s about the leadership intervention.”

    No, Mr. Nally, the lack of female CEOs is not about data or leadership intervention.

    It’s about children and food.

    Sandberg & Co. are hopelessly out of touch. Their myopic vision of gender equality ignores the reality of home and family life.

    Someone has to rock the cradle. Someone has to love, care for and discipline the children. Someone has to go to Target, do the laundry, pick up the dry cleaning and take the children to the doctor. Someone has to get the kids where they need to go after school. Someone has to go the grocery store and get food on the table.

    http://suzannevenker.com/theres-no-glass-ceiling-theres-just-children-and-food-2/

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    Have you been keeping up with Milo’s televisual exploits from Sunday?
    Sargon has a vid that’s pretty good.

    Update 😉
    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/01/25/2858403/

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic, The wheels of justice are grinding slow. It’s been two months.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/university-of-missouri-professor-charged-over-protest-1453753837
    Good th hear that one hundred state legilators signed a perition to call for her being fired.

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  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    I think it was Bob O’Hara of AVfM that said that women hate to see bachelors. I think it is because some woman, somewhere, doesn’t have her draft horse.
    They have a very strong union and the in group bias to go with it.

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  56. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    So they want a Muslim Jedi? How about Michael Crichton writing a part for Beowulf?
    Tell them to shut up and go away.

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  57. JDG says:

    Tarn
    BP = Not All Women Are Like That
    RP = All Women Are Like That
    PP = Enough Women Are Like That

    My understanding is:
    BP = No woman is Like That (they can do no wrong, and if they do a man made them do it – some how)
    RP = All Women Are Like That (but some have learned to not give sway to every primal urge).
    PP = Some Women Are Like That (just not any that they personally know)

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  58. Tarnished says:

    JDG,

    PP = Some Women Are Like That (just not any that they personally know)

    I’d disagree with this redefinition. I currently know or have known plenty of women who ALT, in everyday life. Some are coworkers, some were classmates, others are siblings, or older relatives. Doesn’t mean one has to follow said examples, though. Individuals are capable of thinking (and doing) for themselves.

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  59. Tarnished says:

    I think it was Bob O’Hara of AVfM that said that women hate to see bachelors.

    Our fellow bloggers/commenters Francis and Black Pill have noticed this as well.

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    The silence is deafening on this point. It goes to prove how dependent most women are on marriage to advance them in so many respects and how little it benefits men.

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    My Mom was unhappy that I was a bachelor. So were my sisters.

    And probably my lesbian cousins also

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  62. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,

    I’m just glad that more and more men are waking up to this fact. While there are good women like Bloom who are suffering from lack of a good man, there’s many more good men who are being intelligent about opening themselves up to committed suffering.

    And yes, I do realize how depressing and dour that sounds.

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  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Your lesbian cousins too? That’s “esprit de corps”.

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  64. Tarnished says:

    My Mom was unhappy that I was a bachelor. So were my sisters.
    And probably my lesbian cousins also.

    As I’ve said before, all my older relatives (parents, step-parents, aunts, uncles) are upset that I’m over 30 and remain unhitched. My siblings don’t particularly care, they just think it’s very weird…especially my sisters. The one who takes it hardest is my mom. For that I actually do feel sorry, but not enough to drastically change my life. Few of my friends give any damns.

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  65. Yoda says:

    And yes, I do realize how depressing and dour that sounds.

    Worse than the swamps of Degoba it would be?

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  66. Tarnished says:

    Yeah, Yoda.
    All points considered, I think so.

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  67. Yoda says:

    Your lesbian cousins too?

    Et tu lesbo?

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  68. Tarnished says:

    Pffft. Hahahaha!

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  69. Yoda says:

    Bill Shakesman had a way with words, did he not?

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  70. Tarnished says:

    Sonnet 138 is my favorite of the Bard.

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    William Shakespeare had to have a way with words. Given a theater in the round, he couldn’t build sets.

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  72. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am having a hard time with this.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3416091/FSU-settling-lawsuit-woman-accused-Winston-rape.html

    $250k to her and $700k to her attorneys.

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  73. Sumo says:

    Re: being a bachelor, only one person (my little sister, who isn’t actually related to me, but we’ve been friends since we were 16 y/o) has ever made any sort of negative comments regarding my singleness. She usually stops when I tell her that I have no desire to get saddled with a screeching little shrew like her. 😀

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  74. Yoda says:

    Red as Darth Maul Sumo is

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  75. JDG says:

    JDG,

    PP = Some Women Are Like That (just not any that they personally know)

    I’d disagree with this redefinition

    Could you be more “red” than “purple”? Or perhaps MY understanding of “purple” is bluer than YOUR understanding of “purple”?

    Or is it possible that I just don’t get “purple”?

    As a test I suggest we ask ourselves: How many PP women actually make sammiches for their men?

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  76. JDG says:

    I just wanted to add that it is very possible that I don’t get “purple”. I’ve read that it is a compromise on RP, but other than that descriptions have been vague. So let the sammich counting begin.

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  77. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    JDG,
    Why is it that I get hungry after reading your comments?

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  78. BuenaVista says:

    There’s no reason to pity women, even if they superficially claim RP authority and insights, in their frustrated search for a man to put a ring on it. Because, once again, they’re playing both sides of the street. They’re just saying, “No, really, come back, I’ll be nice this time.”

    Until women are willing to run the same risks in government marriage that are today only applied to men, and enforce changes to the system that has proven its malignancy to men and their children, their argument remains one of “I’ll have my cake and eat it too.” One-way optionality, enforced by the state at gunpoint, is not a good deal for men.

    So they’ll need to enjoy their spinsterhood, or a groveling, desperate Husband of Instagram.

    I know exactly one woman who has figured this out. She figured it out because as the primary wage earner (surgeon), while desperate to escape the marriage, she was effectively treated like a man by the courts. She lost her home, her children, and the usual fortune in a toxic divorce to her SAHD. She flies in her boyfriend 1000 miles from the Texas oil patch (where he is a welder of some sort) once or twice a month and noted to me recently:

    “Well guy I’m seeing wanted to move in and I told him I wasn’t ready. Didn’t know if I’ll ever be ready. He didn’t like my answer. I like my space. Long distance relationship is what I like.”

    She was not like this when she was still transitioning out of the marriage; she wanted to lock me down. Now that her ex- has alienated her children and re-litigated their divorce a few times (he actually re-litigated three times in five years his child support and alimony– though one child has now reached her majority) she asks “Why do the courts even entertain this shit?” It’s not her fault her ex- doesn’t want to work. (And her husband, like most ex-wives to UMC men who’ve been drawn and quartered, is highly educated: he’s an M.D. who claims he can’t hold down a job, any job, because of his devotion all those years to being a homemaker. He’s currently appealing the most recent court decision to their state’s Supreme Court.)

    She’ll enjoy her work, her second home in Palm Springs, build her airplane, and the like. She’s got the Hard Anger. She’s WGTOW. Once you’ve been through the meat-grinder a time or two, so that someone else can sustain a life of leisure and privilege while destroying your parental relationship with your children, the stage lights come up mighty bright. Doubly so if you are of a certain age and have keener insight into the time and effort required to rebuild your balance sheet and emotional well-being. At a certain age, insights aside, there’s just the practical matter of not having enough time left to run the risks. This basically summarizes Robin Williams’ suicide.

    If a RP noob wanted to test this thesis, he might say to a woman: “Hey, I want to be in a committed LTR with you. Tell you what, I’ll buy a condo in your building (a house next door to yours) and you keep your stuff, I’ll keep mine, we’ll intersect only in the affirmation of our affections. Not at the county courthouse where I hand you the keys to my sovereignty.” A meltdown will ensue.

    Women own this situation: they made it, benefit from it, covet it.

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    Red as Darth Maul Sumo is

    I wonder if there is some type of relationship between them…

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  80. Tarnished says:

    As a test I suggest we ask ourselves: How many PP women actually make sammiches for their men?

    Don’t know. I haven’t met any women irl who I’d identify as such. Whenever I think I have, they turn around and say/do something extremely Blue Pill. It’s…disheartening. Liz might be one though? I’ll leave that up to her to comment further on.

    Re: Sandwich Making

    I don’t make him many sandwiches, but that’s because we normally eat out when together…Our homes are for affectionate times and/or videogames, restaurants and cafés are for eating at. I always pay for the meal, he always pays the tip, because that’s fair to our different incomes. I also buy him little snacks from time to time, though recently he’s “on a diet” so I can’t. Pshaw! He is wonderful as he is.

    If there is food to be had at home, we’ll have things like bruschetta (with the option of chicken for him), antipasta, or salad (option of chicken, bacon, or turkey for him) that can be made together. Since I’m vegetarian and he’s not, meals that can be customized to our individual diets are preferred.

    Sandwiches aside, it’s possible, as you said, that we just have different ideas about what Purple entails. It’s certainly not as cut and dry as Blue or Red, that’s for sure.

    I will be buying Fuzzie a steak lunch or dinner in August though. Does that count towards Sandwich Points? 😉 😛

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  81. Farm Boy says:

    Because, once again, they’re playing both sides of the street.

    I wonder how many women realize that women are doing that.
    I wonder how many women understand that men realize that that women are doing that; and as such, need to be extra skilled in trying to convince him…

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    I have to admit that this purple pill thing is confusing also

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  83. Tarnished says:

    If a RP noob wanted to test this thesis, he might say to a woman: “Hey, I want to be in a committed LTR with you. Tell you what, I’ll buy a condo in your building (a house next door to yours) and you keep your stuff, I’ll keep mine, we’ll intersect only in the affirmation of our affections. Not at the county courthouse where I hand you the keys to my sovereignty.”

    Not gonna lie…the amount of gas money saved from this hypothetical would be astoundingly awesome.

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  84. Tarnished says:

    I wonder how many women realize that women are doing that.

    A lot more than the Blue would have men think.

    I wonder how many women understand that men realize that that women are doing that; and as such, need to be extra skilled in trying to convince him…

    Not nearly as many, because the MSM is still just pandering the “men are juvenile, immature, and afraid of commitment” line 24/7. Once again, women can do no wrong.

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  85. Yoda says:

    Why is it that I get hungry after reading your comments

    Always hungry bears are

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  86. Tarnished says:

    I have to admit that this purple pill thing is confusing also

    Hmmm. I don’t know if I can explain it more or differently. I’m sorry. :/

    Maybe it’s just what I’d consider those who reject the misandry of Blue Pill “fish – bicycle”/rape culture/all men are sexist shit we’re fed everyday while simultaneously not personally agreeing with all of the Red Pill ideology or needing it applied to them.

    It was what I struggled with the most upon encountering the Manosphere. And still do, to some extent. What does one say when they honestly aren’t “like that”, but it’s just because of how they are, not because they recognize and actively reject their “primal urges”? Primal urges are the need to eat, sleep, have sex, and stay alive…not screwing over your mate.

    It’s like learning about things like married game, and shit tests, and hypergamy, and frivorce, and sexual manipulation, and all the other RP relationship stuff we talk about here. It is utterly mind blowing that anyone, anywhere does this crap, because it just sounds. So. Fucking. Exhausting.
    Like, who has either the time or inclination for that?! Who would not notice they are being a gigantic asshole to the person they say they love and cherish?! Are they really that incapable of taking a step back and viewing what they are doing?!

    I can understand that fights and disagreements happen, but when BV talks about a grown-ass adult woman having a tantrum? Or that post that on J4G where the author was talking about how he got hurt and took care of his blood and tears alone even though his woman was just in the next room over because he couldn’t allow her to see him cry?

    Bull. Shit.
    Not that those things didn’t happen, since I’m sure they did, but what the hell? If you have a disagreement, you can (usually) just take a walk and cool down until you’re ready to see the other side, not stomp your feet and yell like a toddler. The one person you shouldn’t have to be afraid of seeing you at your most vulnerable is your mate. I know that when my love is hurt, be it physically or emotionally, I need to be there for them with comfort and love…and it is just heartbreaking in my mind that this could be seen as him “losing game” or some crap. Women are adults! Act like it!

    Ok. Rant over.
    Sorry I went off a bit there. My guy has been dealing with some overly PC stuff at his job, and it is pissing me off. Like Fuzzie, all this makes me very angry and frustrated.
    But…yeah…I don’t know, FB. Wish I had a better definition for you.

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  87. Tarnished says:

    And I apologize for the cussing, since some of our commenters here don’t like it. Mea culpa.

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  88. Yoda says:

    Perhaps package purple pill as a post you could

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  89. Tarnished says:

    I could try.
    I’m currently working on one regarding brain differences, as per Spawny’s “request”.

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  90. Spawny Get says:

    “when BV talks about a grown-ass adult woman having a tantrum”

    I can’t think of anything less impressive to see. I really can’t.

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  91. Spawny Get says:

    “And I apologize for the cussing, since some of our commenters here don’t like it.”

    a) why does nobody fucking tell me this shit?
    b) didn’t someone post a link on how smart someone who swears is (enlarged vocabulary, or some such)?

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  92. Spawny Get says:

    as per Spawny’s “request”

    His Benificent Patriarchyship is indeed happy for his ‘requests’ to be regarded as “requests” as long as they get done.

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  93. Tarnished says:

    why does nobody fucking tell me this shit?

    Lol.

    didn’t someone post a link on how smart someone who swears is (enlarged vocabulary, or some such)?

    Fuck if I know… 😂😉

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  94. Tarnished says:

    His Benificent Patriarchyship is indeed happy for his ‘requests’ to be regarded as “requests” as long as they get done.

    Sir, yes sir!

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  95. Tarnished says:

    Bloom, think it was a good post, but will refrain from commenting on it due to a plethora of moral/spiritual differences.

    But if I was coming from a Christian standpoint, I’d think it was fantastic! 👍
    I’m also slightly envious of the (probably small) amount of time you have to churn out posts as you’ve been doing lately. 😆

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  96. Tarnished says:

    I can’t think of anything less impressive to see. I really can’t.

    PFUDOR is 9000x more impressive than a grown woman having a tantrum.

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    I have noticed that the inhabitants of the UK do swear rather noticeably more than many, many other cun countries. I freely admit this deplorable fact.

    We also hold our esteemed political leaders in far, far, far lower regard than most. For example, I have heard deluded people say that one must respect the office of the POTUS, even if the present occupant is clearly dishonest, incompetent and an immensely deluded narcissist (relax, I’m purely making this up, I’m obviously not talking about the present glorious being). No English person ever said that about any of our recent jerk off prime ministers, or any other politician whatsoever. But…to be fair…you guys haven’t elected Hillary or Bernie…yet. When you do, perhaps a recalibration is due?

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  98. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Well sir! Recalibration? The Trumpnado is nearly upon us……Thing for you to remember……we are heavily armed. With all that implies. However, we’re a polite sort…….kinda like the Chinese…..they ask you behind which ear you want to be shot. Thing is this…..the rule of law is gettin’ kinda weak…..because really, who obeys the big laws anymore?

    As for the casual invective, no problemo. Type as you will. I’ve been reading you over on Dalrock for a while now. Thinking about grown women having a tantrum……here in Texas, a lot of them are carrying weapons…..some legal, some not. Men pretty much leave women alone here, unless the situation is well known. Who wants to run into one of those cute little “Lady Berretas”, in pink or whatever color they come up with. Another consideration is this…..folks nowadays are sportin’ custom self defense ammo…..Essentially, there’s too much internal trauma to survive. I’ve lived this long here by minding my own business.

    On a political note, it is hard for you to understand how much the Republicans are despised by their own voters. Effeminate manginas, the whole lot. Here’s the real surprise for you…..a lot of Democrats are going to vote for Trump…….because they’re not sexually confused.

    Here’s how bad things are here. The Presidential Secret Service is criminally incompetent. I figure there will be one or two serious assassination attempts on Trump. He has really good security. I’m afraid of some sort of small drone with a refined chemical weapon. Trump will stay alive as long as he uses his own security forces.

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  99. Spawny Get says:

    Hi ETFB,
    I read at Dalrock’s a lot more than I comment. I have recommended Dalrock’s to theists on the web more than a few times. I am honoured to have been noticed. I highly rate that site as a source of reason (even though I’m not a believer. I like people that talk principled sense)

    I note your wisdom on armed women. And wisdom it is.

    Regarding RINOs, well we have the Conservative party under Call Me Dave Cameron…very similar indeed. Though I give Paul Ryan extra credit for the budget that he got through…what an example to us all.

    I voted UKIP (due to Farage) last time in much the same spirit as I would vote Trump if I were an American. I was far from reservation free, but fuckit even the worst case scenario was better than any of the alternatives. Your massive advantage is that a Trump president would have power. An elected Farage (an MP) would not. He would need to have many of his party also elected…many regard the rest of the party (not all of them) with a jaundiced eye. UKIP is in a bit of a mess right now regarding Westminster politics, but is thoroughly engaged with the BREXIT campaign.

    I hope Trump makes it (me being a know nothing foreigner) and I hope he makes America great again. I’m frankly desperate for any western leader with a spine. We got nothing in prospect, what we have is keen to keep us handcuffed to a suicidal Europe standing on a ledge.

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  100. Easttexasfatboy says:

    As Vox Day holds forth…..there will be huge massacres that will not be controllable if the moslem invasion isn’t turned. However, much of the blame for that lies with the feminists and greens, as I understand it. Here’s the hard rock……Islam isn’t going to leave. They will outlast you if you aren’t able to finish them off.

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  101. Spawny Get says:

    Also, I think that I’d get on well with Teaxan women. They’d like my accent, I like theirs. I tend to get on well with grounded women. It’s the delusional “ladies that lunch’ and champagne socialists / limousine liberals that I’d be grinning at as we spoke, whether they’d get the reason behind the grin? I don’t know. I’m really not sure if they’d get my sense of humour. Have you read the comments at Guido’s blog? (Order-order.com) viciously funny, to me anyway.

    An example of that humour. Read it dead pan.
    Paul Ryan looks like the kind of kid that got bullied a lot at school. At least I’d like to think he did.

    I hope that worked for you. I grinned the whole time I was typing it.

    Finally, I don’t talk to feminists, why would one?

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  102. Spawny Get says:

    I read at VD too. Or VP if we’re being picky.

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  103. Spawny Get says:

    “Paul Ryan looks like the kind of kid that got bullied a lot at school. At least I’d like to think he did.”

    Now Cill will get it. Choicy too. Molly maybe. Did anyone else laugh?

    It’s the banality of the words coupled with the sheer cuntitude of the sentiment that cracks me up.

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  104. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Thing is, Spawny……we have a lot of “economic” refugees showing up here in Texas. You see, we don’t have a personal income tax here. So, fleeced liberals flock here as they can. They bring their leftist ideas with them. Yeah, you can tell a leftist rabbit by just how nervous they are around weapons. It offends their very existence. Those are the kind of people I introduce to the Texas justice system.

    Spawny, when a leftist understands that he can be killed under the color of law, they get real quiet. Essentially, it’s this……don’t invade someone’s property. Simple. It doesn’t matter if you “feel” that they’re the scum of the earth……if you step on their property, that’s a whole nother matter. Legally, it then becomes a matter of IF the property holder felt threatened. There’s no requirement to retreat…..none. Are you starting to get the picture? No means no, and can be followed by a very well aimed hollow point.

    As for feminists……I have to deal with some, that’s true. But consider the atmosphere……out in the country, folks are polite……right up until they’re not. I will not disrespect a feminist here. I just won’t defend one. What that means is this…..if someone walks up to a feminist, and is going to do her in……that’s not my problem. I didn’t see anything. There’s an excellent chance she has it coming. That’s a hard way to look at things, isn’t it?

    As times get harder, well……who will step up and feed a rebellious woman? History shows that hard times are when the trash gets taken out. We had a “terrorist” attack in Garland a while back…..it’s hell when the locals are sportin’ better weapons than they are. They were shot next to their vehicle. Reckon it took a while for the ambulance……yep, they bled out where they fell.

    This is the Texas mindset. You could say that we’re violent, and that’s true. However, we aren’t helpless. If you’re fortunate enough to come to Texas, why, it’s heaven on earth.

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  105. Spawny Get says:

    Not having any constitution worth a damn over here…affects what one says.

    I’m just over poolside, but I’ll buy you drink if we ever bump into each other.

    Texas sound good, but then Ton has already sold me on the south. I got to Savannah once, liked what I saw. I’d guess that Florida doesn’t really count?

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  106. Easttexasfatboy says:

    I lived in Key West for a while doing various construction jobs. Couldn’t really say. The South is better for personal freedom.

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  107. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  108. JDG says:

    I will be buying Fuzzie a steak lunch or dinner in August though. Does that count towards Sandwich Points?

    Sorry, no. You have to make it for it to count. That’s Patriarchy 101. However, don’t let that come between fuzzie and a steak.

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  109. Tarnished says:

    JDG,

    Aw…shucks! 😉
    Oh well. I’m hopeful that Fuzzie will enjoy the free steak despite the lack of patriarchal tenderizing.

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  110. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am salivating like one of Pavlov’s dogs.
    STEAK!!!! Yummy!!!!

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