Another comment triggered post


There I was just responding to Bloom, when I found myself writing a long comment.  Long comment = post AFAIAC.  So here we go.

Bloom:

Spawny I see lots of them seem to have moved over to Rollo’s blog. And I like Rollo’s blog too, but it’s not very mixed company friendly, so I rarely comment there. And as if you all haven’t noticed, it literally drives me nuts NOT to comment, so I find I don’t read his blog as much as I would like to because of that. I especially miss Yohami, Badpainter, Han Solo, Ted D, Bastiat, Deti (good to see you!), and I am sure I am forgetting many others…

My reply

“I especially miss…”
yeah, I have a compatible & comparable list.

I’ve never disagreed with Rollo on anything that I remember. He talks sense, it’s good great stuff.

<SNIP>

Here’s the SNIP

But I just don’t feel the need to over-analyse the fucked up stuff that we see around us. It’s good that such analytical material is out there, after all Roissy’s material was shocking to me at the time (2007? maybe 2009? don’t remember, don’t know when that blog came into being, or when I found it).  I found it fascinating at the time.

But now? It’s like gravity. It’s wonderful that people are catching evidence of gravity waves, thus supporting Einstein’s theorems (happened recently BTW). But, I’m perfectly happy with Newtonian physics in the day to day and I’ll trust that the designers of my GPS cover the relativistic effects of Earth’s gravity on the space clocks that it runs on…which it does.

To me there are very basic concepts that need demolishing that will take down huge parts of fembotulism. They’ll move us into other interesting realms to discussion. They don’t need huge analysis, for example

The most fundamental concept to turd wave fembotulism is that men and women, apart from the inny vs outy, are exactly the same, and it is absolute horseshit*. Brain size distributions are different for men and women. The grey vs white matter make up is different. The connectivity is different. IQ distributions are different SD and mean. Different regions of the brain are activated doing similar tasks in average male vs female brains. Just look at men and women about you in every day life. If you can’t see that they’re not identical then congratulations, you just might be dumb enough to be a feminist. You’re going to have a shitty life because you’re going to be battling reality for all of it. This is why fembots are usually dumb and angry. Again…look around you.

BUT

The reason that it’s an important shibboleth to destroy is that it’s the foundation for all the quota bullshit that femeroids are using to destroy society:
Less than 50% female MPs means sexism…NOPE…men and women are different. It seems women don’t wish to enter the scummy field of politics in the same numbers as men.
Less than 50% of STEM people are vagina enhanced means sexism…NOPE…women don’t like maths and logic as much as men…deal with it
Men don’t emote like the more divine women…correct. They don’t want to and it hurts their ability to navigate life and attract wimminz…deal with it.
Not enough women in the front line forces? Strength, endurance, mental faculties differ. What’s more, armies weakened to cater for less effective troops will lose more and have higher casualty rates…so sod off. I don’t want female troops dying and I don’t want male troops dying / getting injured to cover their shortfalls in abilities.

Base society on reality. Let all have a fair crack of the whip, but sadly the sex you’re born as has effects on what’s possible on the individual level. Not many men getting preggo. Not many female chess grand masters. Deal with it. Equal opportunity but reality based standards.

— edit —

Coincidentally, I have just started watching a Youtube video that touches on this subject.  I haven’t finished watching yet, but it looks good so far.  Human sexual dimorphism mentioned at around fifteen minutes in. (14:55)

*I am very happy to state that not all women and not all men…distributions etc…unicorns. I do not think that gender roles should/could be enforced on everyone. I see no reason to stop women deciding that SAHM is not what they want from life, and getting a career. If you’re a guy wanting to be a SAHD? Best of luck finding a woman to enable that for you.

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50 comments on “Another comment triggered post
  1. Spawny Get says:

    That video. At 14:55 the conversation of ‘feminism vs reality’ commences

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  2. Spawny Get says:

    Having said all that above…if anyone wants to do a JFG / Rollo style seriously researched in depth post, I am utterly up for that here.

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  3. molly says:

    SS is the only blog I spend time on. JFG and Rollo and all the names I don’t know. Also I’m much younger than others here and you all found the manosphere and talked it all out long before me.

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  4. BuenaVista says:

    Most of the women I know don’t argue with the idea that gender is not a social construction. They tried enacting a life based on this model, and found it empty. Women haven’t re-engineered their souls sufficiently to discover any lasting desire for nancy-boys.

    But they remain Loyal Sisters to most of the underlying benefits that the postmodern constructions for gender and sex roles provide: affirmative action, legal hegemony (divorce, the “sexual assault” terror), superior social status for claiming victimhood (social, medical, professional), a get out of jail card for an episodic AF lifestyle. (Footnote: one of the better meltdowns I experienced this year was pointing out to a friend that her “girls vacation” was just an off-the-books sex tour. We’re not supposed to know this, evidently.) For some reason, and because Sheryl Sandberg tells us to, we’re obligated to support this kind of both-sides-of-the-street thinking.

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  5. Spawny Get says:

    “much younger than others here”

    merely 60% less mature. That’s the phraseology that us old codgers more mature types prefer, yer young whippersnapper, you

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  6. Tarnished says:

    I do not think that gender roles should/could be enforced on everyone.
    One could try, but one would fail.

    I see no reason to stop women deciding that SAHM is not what they want from life, and getting a career.
    Another of the multitude of reasons I support MGTOW over the rest of the ‘sphere…As a whole, they are far more aware of the BS that is traditional gender roles re: how they are misused to constantly give men the short end of the stick and pedestalize women. I agree with their side of the manosphere far more than the PUA, (current) MRA, and obviously the diehard Tradcons.

    If you’re a guy wanting to be a SAHD? Best of luck finding a woman to enable that for you.
    This would be the ideal relationship for me, without the “Dad” part. SAHP…Stay-At-Home-Partner? Yes, please!

    Recently one of my best friends has been delving back into talking about Purple/Red Pill stuff ( 😃 ) and said he’d have really enjoyed having the chance to be a SAHD instead of the 2 job breadwinner he is now. There are guys who’d love that life, but society (and most women) dictate that doing so is giving up your Manhood Card. Balderdash. 😠

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  7. Tarnished says:

    Molly,

    Get off my lawn, you teeny bopper! 😉😃😂

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  8. Tarnished says:

    …if anyone wants to do a JFG / Rollo style seriously researched in depth post, I am utterly up for that here.

    About brain sturf?
    You do know that openly talking about the physical differences between male-type and female-type brain meats can attract mouthbreathing TERFs* and gender deniers, right? Those who think we are all born as 100% blank slates, despite our brains typically having entirely different hormone baths whilst in the womb…because reasons.

    *TERF = Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminism, or more accurately, Trans Exterminationist Radical Feminism. They hate people like me, which is sad for them, because I’m amazing.

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  9. Tarnished says:

    Base society on reality.
    Yup.

    Let all have a fair crack of the whip (maybe Sumo can help with that…), but sadly the sex you’re born as has effects on what’s possible on the individual level. 
    Correct. While there are always extreme  exceptions to the rule in mental, physical,  and emotional spheres, they are exceptions for a reason: our species is sexually dimorphic. Of course, being male doesn’t mean you have to be a muscle bulging bodybuilder or work exclusively in STEM fields, just like being female doesn’t mean you have to be physically weak or become a mother.

    Not many men getting preggo. Not many female chess grand masters. Deal with it. Equal opportunity but reality based standards.
    Precisely.

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  10. Spawny Get says:

    I think that gender roles probably work for the majority of people, the majority of the time. I just don’t believe in the tyranny of the majority.

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  11. Yoda says:

    Spawny soon sent to re-education camp he shall.
    Miss him much we will

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  12. Yoda says:

    Re-education Camps – Where fantasy becomes reality

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  13. Yoda says:

    Camp probably lead off with show of new StarWars it will.
    If laugh at Rey or Darth Emo, flogged you will be

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  14. Yoda says:

    Re-educate human nature out of Spawny they will.
    “If enough people forced to believe our bullshit they are, then the new reality it does become”

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  15. Tarnished says:

    I think that gender roles probably work for the majority of people, the majority of the time. I just don’t believe in the tyranny of the majority.

    This. ⬆⬆⬆
    I’ve no issue whatsoever if 98% of men and women are living happily and heathily in traditional gender roles/relationships. More power to them.
    But attempting to force the other 2% to conform to it when they’d sooner eat a bar of soap than live that way? Nope.
    Nope nope nope.

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  16. Yoda says:

    It’s wonderful that people are catching evidence of gravity waves

    True this is?
    Disturbance in the force it might be.
    Or perhaps something to do with Lindy it might be

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  17. Yoda says:

    German media,

    For the broadcasters’ detractors, Cologne represents the latest example of months of tendentious coverage. One common complaint is news reports on the refugees often picture families and women, even though single young men make up the vast majority of those arriving.

    Another is that the broadcasters downplay or conceal events that might rouse the public’s emotions. The alleged gang rape of two teenage girls in southwest Germany on New Year’s Eve by four Syrian refugees was not reported by any of the main news programs, for example, despite the parallels to the attacks in Cologne and other cities.

    SWR, the regional public channel, reported on the rapes but was quick to add: “The nationality of the suspects played an ‘insignificant role’ in the crime, investigators and prosecutors said.”

    Such reporting has fueled criticism that the broadcasters soft pedal any hint of criminal behavior among refugees. It also earned them a new moniker: “Willkommens Broadcaster” — a play on the so-called “Willkommenskultur,” or culture of welcome that swept Germany in the early days of the refugee crisis.

    The quips are only partly in jest. Opponents of Angela Merkel’s refugee policies say the public media demonize anyone who dares speak out against them.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/cologne-puts-germany-lying-media-press-on-defensive-migration-refugees-attacks-sex-assault-nye/

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  18. Tarnished says:

    If enough people forced to believe our bullshit they are, then the new reality it does become.

    I don’t think that is how it works…

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  19. Spawny Get says:

    Tarnished,
    “I don’t think that is how it works…”
    It does in the SJW and Femeroid manual ‘1984’

    How many fingers can you see?

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  20. Yoda says:

    To re-education camp Spawny will go
    Good thing nothing like that happen in the US it would.
    Until happens it does

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    How much I care about this

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  22. Yoda says:

    “Hoops” not been in the news much lately she has.
    Time to create a controversy it is?

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  23. Yoda says:

    Putin more credible with shirt off he is.
    Just saying this I am

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  24. Tarnished says:

    How many fingers can you see?

    What are “fingers”?

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  25. Spawny Get says:

    French PM: British Exit Could Cause Collapse Of European Union… But We Mustn’t Meet ALL Their Demands

    Sweaty looking fucker, is he not?

    French Prime Minister Manuel Valls warned on Thursday that it would be a “very bad thing” if Britain left the EU, but warned that British demands cannot be met at any price.

    A British EU exit “would undoubtedly be a bad thing, a very bad thing,” Valls told reporters on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos. “There needs to be a deal, but not at any price.”

    Valls was speaking just hours before British Prime Minister David Cameron was set to lay out his vision of Britain’s place in the world in a speech at the Swiss ski resort.

    Cameron hopes to strike a deal on renegotiating Britain’s ties with Brussels at an EU summit next month, before calling a referendum on the country’s membership on the EU. He will campaign to stay in the union.

    The problem being that Call-him-a-cunt Dave isn’t even asking for anything of value, nor are there going to be any guarantees that agreements for now won’t be reneged upon. Any agreement now will be capable of being overturned by a majority of the EU countries. many of which see the UK as a funding source ‘Treasure Island’ for their countries. Poland being the example that springs to mind…fucking shameless. For example, they demand that we don’t stop paying child support for kids that don’t even fucking live in the UK…because daddy is in the UK. And they plainly state this.

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  26. Tarnished says:

    Better sugar tits:

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  27. Tarnished says:

    For example, they demand that we don’t stop paying child support for kids that don’t even fucking live in the UK…because daddy is in the UK.

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  28. Spawny Get says:

    it wasn’t a great video, but one wished to encourage new man-friendly voices on Youtube. Bearing (Sugartits’ boyfriend) is good. Her next video could be great.

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  29. Spawny Get says:

    Demanding child support for foreign kids living in foreignland. That’s some quality chugging.

    Chugging = mugging someone for a charitable cause. Danger signs being a dimboid with a clipboard in the highstreet. Avoid, avoid, avoid

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  30. molly says:

    “If enough people forced to believe our bullshit they are, then the new reality it does become.” Specially when woman’s new Group-think reality, eh.

    KA-ROAR!!!
    ^^^
    Me off to work on my bike. Youthful vigor (ya remember it anyone?) 😉 😉 😉

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  31. Tarnished says:

    From the above linked Dalrock post, regarding Tucker Carlson’s douchebag response to Dr. Helen saying modern marriage is crap for males:

    Well that’s all true, I mean I agree with that completely. But it still doesn’t absolve men of the responsibility to stop complaining about how the cards are against them and man up and become men– because you don’t become a man until you assume responsibility.

    Lets reread that:
    But it still doesn’t absolve men of the responsibility to stop complaining about how the cards are against them and man up and become men–because you don’t become a man until you assume responsibility.

    What. The. Fuck.
    Men need to man up and stop complaining about legitimate problems…because they aren’t men otherwise?

    *brain melting onto floor*

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    I think that it’s far more manly to tell society to go fuck itself. To only come back with a fair offer for men.

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    Der Spiegal chimes in; Brexit Danger: The EU Strategy to Keep Britain from Leaving


    Sauerkraut and Buttered New Potato share a quality moment

    More horseshit to persuade the UK sheeple that the negotiations are hard core and brutal…where anyone with any nouse knows that Dave isn’t even asking for anything remotely likely to make the EU acceptable.

    Tusk, Juncker and Merkel are facing an uphill battle. Even if they are able to make Cameron look like the winner of the February summit, it is unclear if that will be enough. The opponents of Britain’s continued EU membership have made up significant ground and many surveys now show them to be neck and neck with those who would like to see the UK remain part of the club.

    Chugging

    Even on the most controversial of British demands, it looks as though concessions could be made. Cameron is insisting on implementing a law whereby citizens of EU countries who work in Britain will be prevented from accessing social benefits for four years. It is a clear case of discrimination and is in violation of European Union law. The Portuguese, Belgians and Greeks have tried to convince the British to rescind the demand.

    What is controversial about not forcing the British taxpayer to subsidise UK companies taking on immigrants and thereby ensuring that Brits seldom get more than the legal minimum wage? Meanwhile said immigrants claim child benefits for children not even in the UK. Bring families over and demand social housing (sector 8, I believe), thereby jumping the queue of natives. Arrive with illnesses that they demand that the NHS cure at taxpayer expense.

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    and there’s more

    Hamburg Mayor Olaf Scholz has introduced a second idea, which has been circulating in Brussels for some time. He envisions a compromise whereby citizens of EU member states could be excluded from British social benefits for one year in accordance with a previous European Court of Justice decision.

    It is unclear, though, whether such maneuvers could convince British voters to remain a part of the European Union. Indeed, Cameron had hardly returned home from the pre-Christmas summit in Brussels before the conservative press began bashing him. “His negotiations have exceeded even our lowest expectations,” screeched the tabloid Sun. “It is already clear that he has demanded virtually nothing and will get even less.”

    The European Parliament’s Committee on Constitutional Affairs likewise recognized during a visit to Britain that Cameron could be losing control of the situation. “I returned even more disillusioned than I was when I left,” says Jo Leinen, a European parliamentarian from the German Social Democratic Party.

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    These are good times for those in favor of a Brexit. They hope that British voters will choose to leave the EU no matter what kind of deal Cameron strikes in Brussels in February. For them, the union is a sclerotic structure, mired in disagreement overthe refugee crisis and unable to reach consensus. In the weekly New Statesman, the Cambridge historian Brendan Simms recently compared the EU with collapsing empires like the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Austria-Hungary.

    Multi-millionaire Jim Mellon, who is actively supporting the Brexit camp, is likewise forecasting the end of the common currency. He believes that the economic crisis on the Continent will worsen and that it is high time for Britain to distance itself. “The Euro Zone ship is like the Titanic, it will sink sooner rather than later,” Jim Mellon says. “It is better to be sitting in a lifeboat than to be dragged down.”

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/eu-seeks-to-avoid-brexit-at-all-costs-a-1070389.html

    TFR

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    /rant
    fuck these useless politicians
    /rant for realz

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  37. Tarnished says:

    Fuck their couches, too.
    They deserve it.

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  38. Yoda says:

    Going from bad to worse it is,


    The eighth entry in the Star Wars saga was supposed to start filming this month, but production has been delayed so that director Rian Johnson can do last-minute script rewrites. That means the movie will hit theaters in December 2017 instead of May 2017 as originally planned.

    Rumors are swirling about what has caused the delay, but it seems that it’s mostly about reshuffling the movie’s focus to give us more screen time with popular characters Rey, Finn, and Poe. Star Wars VIII will also introduce two new female characters, one of whom may be played by an Asian actress, but their parts are going to become a bit smaller in the rewrite.

    http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/01/star-wars-viii-delayed-until-december-2017/

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    “In movies like Looper and Brick, he gave us action-packed stories with characters who were incredibly memorable.”

    Not seen ‘Brick’, but ‘Looper’ had a fecking stupid story-line.

    Look forward to seeing episode VIII when I get a chance to watch it for free and I get a chance to watch it between emails and comments…like VII

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  40. Liz says:

    Well said, Spawny. 🙂

    Tarn: “If enough people forced to believe our bullshit they are, then the new reality it does become.

    I don’t think that is how it works…”

    To an extent it is.
    For example, what are the odds that this eight year old boy has a masculine role model at home? Or ANY male role model at home?
    http://www.towleroad.com/2016/01/8-year-old-fulfills-his-dream-of-becoming-a-drag-queen/

    We’re supposed to applaud his mother’s support and his “bravery” and cleverness and anyone who disagrees is a hater of course. Now if this were an eight year old girl, thinking individuals would be allowed to suggest this was sexualizing her. More likely than not, most people would find it repellant. But apparently it’s cool to paint a boy like a bacha bāzī and put his image on Facebook to collect “likes”. God help the scoffers…anyone who thinks it is NOT in the boy’s best interest to get dolled up like an Afghani boy dancer just needs therapy! Obviously all that toxic masculinity is polluting their senses! This is social conditioning. And it leaves a mark…not just on this kid, but you can tell a lot about a society by what behaviors they approve and disapprove of.
    / the “prudish” Liz rant has ended

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  41. Liz says:

    Maybe the future is male boy drag pageants! As if those little girl pageants weren’t repellant enough. Instead of Honey Boo Boo we’ll have Plumhead Patrick or some such.

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  42. Liz says:

    Speaking of conditioning, here is an anecdotal example from last night.
    I was making dinner, and one of our sons came in from downstairs (he was the last one in) and asked if he should lock the door. Mike answered, “That’s an example of a question you don’t have to ask.”
    For some background, Mike has been trying to teach him to stop asking about everything. He’s the one who will stand there holding a bag or something, and ask if it’s okay to put it down. He basically asks to do everything (even very basic things). Mike thinks he is about the age (14) when he should stop asking about everything because it isn’t very manly and makes him sound insecure. Of course, being the Mom I find it endearing that he asks for everything and I would never think to correct him on it.
    After Mike responded that way, I went up to him and softly said (I didn’t want our boys to hear), “It’s kind of a courtesy to ask if he should lock the door.”

    He responded, “You’ve mentioned that boys need their dad to teach them how to be men. Let me do my job.”

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  43. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

    Like

  44. Tarnished says:

    After Mike responded that way, I went up to him and softly said (I didn’t want our boys to hear), “It’s kind of a courtesy to ask if he should lock the door.”

    I actually agree with Mike on this one. By the age of 14, a kid should have started to become more decisive in both thought and action. I can’t say as much for my young sisters, but my brother (second oldest) and I (oldest)…starting at around age 12-13…almost constantly heard the reply of “What do you think?” when we acted like your son.

    It wasn’t said it a snarky or sarcastic way. Our parents just wanted to get it through our heads that we really needed to make decisions for ourselves and live with the consequences. For example, if I was in your son’s shoes and decided to lock the door without asking, I’d simply be responsible for opening it later if a keyless family member came home later.

    It’s good he’s teaching this!

    Re: drag queen/king kids
    Nope. No. Nuh-uh. Negative. Nein.

    I don’t care what anyone says about “acceptance” or “tolerance”. You don’t sexualize children or allow them to do it to themselves. Get rid of these craptacular “beauty pageants” with 7 and 8 year olds dressing like they’re going on 16.

    Boys…girls…doesn’t matter. It isn’t healthy or appropriate at such young ages.

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    To respond to what was said upthread about ‘reeducation camps”, I was thinking about linke “Escape from Sobibor” but, I stumbled across this. This will bring tears of joy to Tarn.

    “Reeducation camps” is not all that crazty a notion. Fembots are calling for a curfew for men in Europe. Julie Bindel, a collumnist for the Guardian has suggested concentration camps.
    Don’t think that it can’t happen. Everyone in authority is just fine with throwing all men under the bus to sparethe felling of fembots.

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  46. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie, I love this song!

    Fembots are calling for a curfew for men in Europe. Julie Bindel, a collumnist for the Guardian has suggested concentration camps.

    Ewww. They’re like that legitimately mentally ill Feminist who wanted to create a worldwide Castration Day for all males over age 15 or something. Frickin whackjobs, the entire lot of ’em.

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