Legislating Away MGTOW


Lots of people don’t like the concept of MGTOW.  They hope that it never catches on; and work to suppress the concept.  “They” would be almost all women, almost all of the media, almost all of the policy makers, and almost all religious leaders.  There are such a large number of people lined up against it, that it is a wonder that the concept sees the light of day.

What are all of these people’s objections to MGTOW.  It really comes down to the fact that MGTOW men invariable work less (the money making kind of work) and don’t contribute so much either to the government, and women (either directly or indirectly).  So many people who expect to tap into the effort of men, are going to be less able to do so.  For them, this is a scary prospect.

Because there is such a huge number that are unequivocally against MGTOW, they invariably will try to use the power of the state in an attempt to stop it.  What will they do?  What types of laws will they pass?  In the early stages, they cannot be too obvious as to what they are doing; invariably obfuscating their true intentions with much noble sounding rhetoric.

Probably the taxes on single people with significant income will be raised.  This might be a hardship on some prosperous single women with children, so the child deduction would be increased.  However many MGTOWs only make enough to survive; they are in a very low tax bracket.  In the USA, such people pay no income taxes.  This cannot be allowed to stand.  Probably there will be some minimum tax, but more deductions for children, child care, etc.

And then there will probably be more taxes on things that guys like to buy and do.  For example, sporting event taxes, video game taxes, increased fees for hunting licenses, special taxes on automobiles deemed “sports cars”, and so on.

Conversely, stuff that woman like to buy and do will be subsidized.  Health care, child care, women’s social organizations, scholarships, grants for study, etc.

Now it is your turn.  How do you believe that it will unfold?

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145 comments on “Legislating Away MGTOW
  1. Cill says:

    “The Chinese government is currently implementing a nationwide electronic system, called the Social Credit System, attributing to each of its 1,3 billion citizens a score for his or her behavior. The system will be based on various criteria, ranging from financial credibility and criminal record to social media behavior. From 2020 onwards each adult citizen should, besides his identity card, have such a credit code.” (http://sheddingoftheego.com/?p=296)

    Perhaps the scenario in “The SJWs and Fembots are about to OWN you, people!” might not be so far-fetched after all.
    “HERE’S YOUR FUTURE, FOLKS, AND IT’S MUCH CLOSER THAN YOU THINK”

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Everytime the government attempts to direct behavior through the tax code, it backfires.
    Empreror Augustus tried levying a bachelor tax. Bachelors were only too happy to pay it. That is the only time I am aware that suchj a thing was tried.

    There is not much that government can do. Going MGTOW is not about commission but, rather omission.

    If all these institutions want to enlist the ooperation of men, the women will have to cooperate at their end.

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  3. Tarnished says:

    I am actually waiting for a Bachelor Tax on all single people and am incredibly surprised we haven’t been struck with one yet. Of course, we already pay more than married folk do, so…

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  4. Spawny Get says:

    Too good to not share. Brillo shares some thoughts

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  5. Spawny Get says:

    The Roman men worked out that however bad the bachelor tax, it was always better to pay it than get married. Marriage was that bad.

    It can’t be long till it’s legal to marry your pussy. I’ll make a moggy my Mrs Spawny mk ii. In fact I met a highly affectionate Bengal male moggy today…maybe I’ll go gay for not pay(ing)?

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  6. Spawny Get says:

    A bachelor tax would be so explicitly anti male that it’ll only accelerate men waking up to how they are just disposable sleepers upon which society runs. Thoreau?

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  7. Tarnished says:

    I’d gladly pay a Bachelor Tax to keep my own freedom, so can only imagine that MGTOW would be like:

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  8. Farm Boy says:

    Dalrock wrote about this some a while back,

    Dr. Helen has a thoughtful post up asking if the title of her book is an accurate description of men’s response to the changes in the law and culture. While the title of her book is extremely effective in opening the discussion (which is what it needs to do), it isn’t an accurate description of problem we face in the West. A strike can be negotiated with; offer them a bit more and they’ll get back to work. Better yet, offer a few of them a side deal and break the cohesion. True strikes require moral or legal force to avoid this sort of peeling off. The problem for the modern West is far worse. What we are seeing isn’t men throwing a collective temper tantrum, noble or otherwise. What we are seeing is men responding to incentives. Even worse, inertia has delayed the response to incentives, which means much more adjustment is likely on the way.

    There was an old joke in the Soviet Union to the effect of:

    We pretend to work. They pretend to pay us.

    The problem for the Soviets was this wasn’t a movement. They knew how to handle a movement, and Siberia had plenty of room above ground and below. The Soviets were masters at coercion through fear, but the problem wasn’t a rebellion, it was that they had reached the limits of incentive through fear. In the short and even medium term fear is a very effective motivator. But over time if overused it loses some of its power, especially when it comes to the kind of productivity which requires creativity and risk taking. Standing out is risky; you don’t want to be the worst worker on the line in a fear based system, but you also have reason to fear being the best worker on the line. This doesn’t happen so much by conscious choice, but due to the influence of the incentive structure on the culture over time. Conscious choices can be bargained with, and threats of punishment are still effective. The culture itself is far harder to negotiate with. No one is refusing anything. So the Soviets had no choice but to assign quotas, and severely punish those who failed to meet them. But while the quota/coercion system keeps production running, it works against human nature. If you become the best producer you end up being assigned a larger share of the quota burden; from each according to his abilities. Over time the logic of this works its way into the culture, as everyone gets just a little more inclined to go with the flow and not do more than required. The problem is while momentum causes the response to be slow, it also means it is very difficult to deal with once you have enough of it to recognize.

    The problem we presently face in the West is similar. While we have a small number of men who have decided to slack off as a form of protest, the far more insidious risk to our economy is the across the board weakening of the incentive that a marriage based social structure creates for men to produce at their full potential. We’ve moved from a mostly reward based incentive structure to a model the Soviets would have been proud of.

    You can see this at the micro level with a man whose wife goes Jenny Erikson on him. The courts understand that throwing a man out of the home and taking away his children naturally reduces the man’s normal incentive to work to support his family. How could it not? It isn’t that most men in this situation will stand by and watch their children starve, but they won’t be motivated to produce quite as much. You can confiscate a percentage of his income in the form of child support, but he no longer has the incentive to fight his way quite so high up our progressive tax structure. This is why the courts have to assign the man an income quota he has to meet, Soviet style. Imputation of income isn’t incidental to the child support family model; it is essential to the function of the model. Note that this doesn’t mean the courts have to formally calculate an income quota for each man who ends up in the new child support family structure; in most cases the man has already assigned himself a quota based on past production. All the family courts need to do in most cases is make sure he doesn’t fall below this quota.

    As I mentioned above coercion is generally a very effective incentive in the near and medium term. Part of the reason conservatives are so enamored with child support is the threatpoint it provides to keep existing husbands working as hard as possible. While in the long run this will ultimately create a culture where husbands are less inclined to become stand out earners, as Keynes famously put it in the long run we are all dead. The other problem is the changes in the culture in response to over use of coercion are by their very nature difficult to identify and quantify. This isn’t unlike the Laffer Curve; while both liberals and conservatives agree regarding the principle of the curve, the shape of the curve is impossible to get agreement on. Eventually you can raise tax rates so high that you end up with lower revenue, but due to the problems of momentum identifying exactly when you have (or will) hit that point can be very difficult.

    The more immediate problem in the West is the reduced incentive young men perceive to compete as breadwinners due to the continuing delay in the age of marriage. Again this isn’t a movement, it is a delayed response by the culture to reality. When the average woman marries in her late teens or even her early twenties, the average young man will see himself as competing with his peers for the job of husband. Not only is he competing to not be left out of the game entirely, but he is jockeying for a better choice of wife. But move the age of marriage out far enough, and eventually young men don’t see themselves so clearly as competing for the job of husband. Extend the age of marriage far enough and eventually the culture of young men will be less focused on competing to signal provider status, and their priorities will shift (on the margin) toward slacking off. The question isn’t if this will happen, but how long you can push the age of marriage out before this starts to happen, how much this will reduce the motivation of young men, and how long between the change in reality and the change in culture. Note also that this doesn’t require men to swear off marriage entirely for this to greatly impact our tax base. Changing the culture of men in their formative years will have a lasting impact. You can’t rewind time and undo a decade of (relative) slacking. Additionally, momentum tends to start working against you at some point. As the expectations of men as providers declines it eventually creates an expectation of decline. As each generation of new husbands come to the table with less to offer as providers, we eventually will start to expect future generations of husbands to offer even less.

    As I’ve said before, all of this places our elites in a very difficult bind. Eventually the momentum which initially masked the problem makes it extremely difficult to address. Denial of the problem is a flawed strategy but it has important advantages. Once you acknowledge that the incentive structure is flawed you tend to accelerate the delayed response to the new structure. At the same time, the changes at the core of the problem are very close to the hearts of both liberals and conservatives. However, ignoring the problem will become more and more difficult because of the impact on the bottom line. Because of this, we can expect to see more of what we already see. Feminists will continue their handwringing tentatively asking if perhaps we have gone a bit too far, and conservatives will redouble their efforts to convince men they need to man up and stop sabotaging the glorious feminist progress. Less conspicuously I also expect we will see some dialing back of the worst excesses of the family courts. However, because of the momentum involved and the reluctance to acknowledge the fundamental problem, these changes will at best only slow the problem, and they will always run the risk of initially accelerating it.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/more-ominous-than-a-strike/

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    Bachelor taxes must be obfuscated. The men must not be tipped off

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  10. Yoda says:

    Suppose all segments of society taxed equally they are.
    But one segment gets many government goodies they do.
    Effectively one segment taxed more than the other it is
    Effectively one segment taxed less it is

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  11. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    While I don’t know if bachelor tax is practical, currently men are paying seventy cents for every dollar raised. It may not be practical to tax men more. It’ll be seen as an obvious scheme.

    There is a lot of truth in Dalrock’s observations and it all comes down to incentives. To curry favor with women, government has disincentivized men. That is a very big Oops.

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    I liked the speedboat yesterday. 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

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  13. molly says:

    “To curry favor with women, government has disincentivized men. That is a very big Oops.”

    Men are withdrawing. Who can blame them, eh.
    My friends can’t find a man to meet. They don’t know where the men went.

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  14. Cill says:

    “A bachelor tax would be so explicitly anti male that it’ll only accelerate men waking up to how they are just disposable sleepers upon which society runs. Thoreau?”

    Yep. Thoreau warns, ‘The Railroad Rides on Us’
    We do not ride on the railroad; it rides upon us. Did you ever think what those sleepers are that underlie the railroad? Each one is a man…. The rails are laid on them, and they are covered with sand, and the cars run smoothly over them. They are sound sleepers, I assure you. And every few years a new lot is laid down and run over; so that, if some have the pleasure of riding on a rail, others have the misfortune to be ridden upon.

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  15. Cill says:

    “Effectively one segment taxed more than the other it is
    Effectively one segment taxed less it is”

    One segment is very much subsidizing the other already. In saying they’d like to reduce the number of males to about 10% of the population, feminists are showing that they lack the intelligence to understand this. They really are hopelessly dim witted.

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  16. Sumo says:

    My friends can’t find a man to meet.

    Slide me some pics and maybe I’ll choose to visit KiwiLand and let them meet me. 😉

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “My friends can’t find a man to meet.”
    Molly, knowing you, your friends are virtuous. They should have them lining up. I’ll bet that they’re not too gredy also. This means that the marketplace is not working.

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  18. molly says:

    Sumo 🙂
    I can’t send their pics until they ask. They won’t ask, as they don’t know of you yet. Do you want me to invite them all to spawny space? Will spawny like his blog obverrun by females 😉

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  19. molly says:

    Sumo 😀 ur above these females.

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  20. JDG says:

    The moral decline of the Roman Empire has an uncanny resemblance to the moral decline of the US from what I’ve read. As I remember it the Roman Authorities implemented a bachelor tax when the men stopped marrying. It didn’t help much.

    MGTOW seems to be even more than a marriage strike though. It could have even more severe ramifications. What surprises me is that feminists are even noticing. Even more surprising is the idea that some of them appear to have a basic understanding of cause and effect. I’m thinking those are probably male feminists (yeah I’m sexist like that).

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  21. molly says:

    Fuzzie the marketplace is not working. As you men say, it is broken.

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  22. Sumo says:

    Sumo 😀 ur above these females.

    Well…..yeah. That was what I was aiming for. Or behind them. I’m not fussy. 😀

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  23. molly says:

    Wo! they are not PPPs! Lol

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  24. Cillhouette says:

    A man should not have to pay to support so many mothers of children not his own. It is a very big disincentive for men to work because all they get back is, they are obsoleted. The people in power did not think this through.

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  25. Sumo says:

    Wo! they are not PPPs! Lol

    They better not be. Ain’t no PPP’s gonna ride the SumoTrain.

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  26. Sumo says:

    Not when there are nubile, innocent girls with adorable accents to corrupt, at least. 😀

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  27. Cill says:

    I don’t know about you lot but the end of a hard day of yakker is good for a shot. See you brother, cheers! (glug) and down the hatch.

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  28. Cill says:

    “Not when there are nubile, innocent girls with adorable accents to corrupt, at least”
    Oh you rogue you. Molly is taken, you reprobate 😉

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  29. Sumo says:

    Not wee Molls, you perv. She’s essentially family; The Mighty Sumo is not into incest. Her friends are fair game, though. 😉

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  30. Cill says:

    Fock you’re a rascally bastard! 😀
    Poor wee Cillhouette was trying to wedge a serious comment in there..

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  31. Cill says:

    Anyway, down to the important stuff. Time for a shot. Come on bro, you charged up yet?

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  32. Sumo says:

    Pfft. What kind of a question is that?

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  33. Cill says:

    Okay then. Woe unto the vanquished! Cheers!

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  34. Sumo says:

    Kampai, brother.

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  35. Sumo says:

    And I apologize to you, Cillhouette. I should not have allowed my carnal urges to override your comment.

    On a completely unrelated note, Sumo is a fine name for a child. 😉

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  36. molly says:

    I wish I could join in a shot to drink 😐

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  37. Sumo says:

    Indulge yourself, Imoto-chan. Both The Mighty Sumo and Cill (obviously, he’s the more dangerous one) are looking out for you.

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  38. Cill says:

    You know you hate Scotch wee mollster (or any other spirit except methylated spirits – I choke joke). You and booze mix like oil and water. And Sumo is a clever man 😉

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  39. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cillhouette, good call.

    Molly,
    What you can do for your friends is to make introductions. Network.

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  40. Cillhouette says:

    Thank you Fuzzie and Sumo. Don’t worry, I’m used to my brother… almost! It’s hard to keep up!

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  41. Sumo says:

    And Sumo is a clever man

    Yes, yes he is. Also a degenerate pervert. And a badass, buttwhuppin’ chef.

    The Mighty Sumo has layers, y’all.

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  42. Cill says:

    Well as you all know full well, I am the soul of decorum.

    7:42 pm in Godzone, and all’s well.

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  43. Cill says:

    bro, there’s nothing like the bonny dew o’ the heather to so sooth the soul.

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  44. Cill says:

    It expands the mind as well. I envisage a large building named CILLSQUATCH AND THE MIGHTY SUMO – FINE GAMING FARE (Inc)
    and a sign
    “Jobs available – Nubile Maidens welcome – Males and Lardy Bubba Mummas and PPPs need not apply”

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  45. Cillhouette says:

    Dinner time! You should be with somebody, brother MGTOW of mine. 😉

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  46. Cillhouette says:

    Goodnight all you interesting people! Goodnight 🙂

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  47. molly says:

    Night night Cillhouete!
    I’m off as well, with my man on an evening cruise. Nighty night! 🙂

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  48. Cill says:

    And I’m sitting back nice and sober, feet up on a pouf, overlooking a windy night and feeling vibrations of the Pacific roaring down on the beach. I smell the friction in the air.

    2114 hours here, and all’s well.

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  49. Yoda says:

    2114 hours here, and all’s well.

    A safe space you need not

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  50. Cill says:

    I need an academic safe place like a hole in the head.

    Ahhh peace reigns. I warn y’all, I’m in a helluva mellow mood…

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    “Will spawny like his blog obverrun by females ;)”

    Is there an option B? We need an option B. http://www.MollyLand.wordpress.com ?

    More seriously (the blog idea is fine, I mean the option B bit). Mixing IRL friends into your blogging habits might not prove the greatest idea in the world. Sooner or later a friend of friend of a…who has an ax to grind with Cill might find that he makes a comment she can use.

    That’s why Bloom hasn’t introduced Red to this place, even though it would be helpful (probably). IMHO she’s right to prioritise hearth and home (and her kids).

    People should be vague about their circumstances. Change details that don’t change the message. Tarn is an excellent example. Her story of a ‘car’ ‘crash’ was actually a Hoopla-Sex related incident of her throwing herself off the ceiling fan / chandelier onto Mr Tarn’s Hoopla-pole, but not noticing that the fan was in reverse mode…cricked neck. Yikes.

    Change details, lose details. Tarn was speaking of the difficulty for a touch phobic person of receiving physiotherapy, how the injury came about was not relevant.

    Oh and TW for the sexy bit.

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  52. Cill says:

    “Sooner or later a friend of friend of a…who has an ax to grind with Cill might find that he makes a comment she can use.”

    Relax. I have thrown at least as many bum steers as Tarn has.

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  53. blurkel says:

    @fuzziewuzziebear

    Everytime the government attempts to direct behavior through the tax code, it backfires. Empreror Augustus tried levying a bachelor tax. Bachelors were only too happy to pay it. That is the only time I am aware that such a thing was tried. There is not much that government can do. Going MGTOW is not about commission but, rather omission. If all these institutions want to enlist the [c]ooperation of men, the women will have to cooperate at their end.

    Wise words, Brother Bear. “There is not much that government can do.” Indeed! One cannot tax those not making money! In the US today, (November 5, 2015 data from BLS http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm ) of both sexes between 16 to 19 years, only 32.5% of the total population “participate” in working for a living. 15.4% are unemployed, and something like 11 million aren’t even looking (October 2015 figures). These are the primary dating years, the ones which form the experiences which society expects to evolve into marriages. I’ve already covered how the first thing young women evaluate in the men who approach them is their earning prospects. Any unemployed young man gets nowhere fast.

    It improves somewhat for men aged 20 and over, but about 30% officially remain unemployed. These men aren’t going to find wives.

    @ Farm Boy

    Dalrock wrote about this some a while back…’Part of the reason conservatives are so enamored with child support is the threatpoint it provides to keep existing husbands working as hard as possible.’

    I agree with this particular observation. but I disagree with Dalrock on most of the rest of his comment. Current economic conditions -which due to my unemployed offspring I claim to know a bit about- make it difficult for a young man to support himself much less any wife or other dependants. My eldest son is being gouged by JP Morgan Chase on a student loan he just paid off, but they insist on continuing to charge him “fees and interest”. As he’s unemployed, about all they will manage to do is make him unemployable. No employer is going to hire him if there is any threat his wages will be garnished. One can’t earn a living if one doesn’t get hired. There is nothing lazy about this, and it would be nice if Dalrock climbed down out of his ivory tower and saw what young men have to face instead of relying upon his traditional prejudices.

    @swithunus

    Mixing IRL friends into your blogging habits might not prove the greatest idea in the world.

    It’s not just friends a blogger must worry about. I dare not expose my real-life self lest my employer decide that I’m expendable. They have already fired many for on-line comments even when off-duty, and US law allows this. Best to maintain a secret identity and not risk the daily bread.

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  54. Tarnished says:

    Tarn is an excellent example. Her story of a ‘car’ ‘crash’ was actually a Hoopla-Sex related incident of her throwing herself off the ceiling fan / chandelier onto Mr Tarn’s Hoopla-pole, but not noticing that the fan was in reverse mode…cricked neck. Yikes.
    This version is made even better by the fact that there’s a frozen yogurt buffet franchise called Hoopla. Now I’m imagining indecent things with whipped cream, lol.

    Change details, lose details. Tarn was speaking of the difficulty for a touch phobic person of receiving physiotherapy, how the injury came about was not relevant.
    This is truth. I did need to go to the chiropractor, and it was a very difficult series of appointments to deal with, but it was for a different reason than I described. Thing is, while I do stick to the truth about very important topics, the minutiae of certain stories changes so that I’m not so identifiable. Even if someone *thinks* they’ve found me…they are almost certainly incorrect because they’ll have followed a false trail. It is smart to do this online, for both sexes!

    Oh and TW for the sexy bit.
    I think the warning is meant to come first, mate.

    Re: blog overrun by women

    Fwiw, it would be very interesting to see a MGTOW-positive blog with numerous female supporters, but methinks that Molly’s crew is more geared towards finding men for mutually committed, strong family oriented relationships. 😉

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  55. Cill says:

    Big storm here
    The other side of paradise. It’s bad

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  56. Yoda says:

    Too white it all is,

    A student at Columbia University is urging the school to inject more diversity into its required courses, claiming she suffered severe emotional trauma from reading too many books by and about white people.

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/20/columbia-student-claims-to-be-traumatized-by-reading-about-white-people/

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  57. Yoda says:

    All women are lesbians not.

    Guess what, girls? As of this month, everything you think you know about your own sexuality is wrong. If you think you’re straight, think again. And if men and men alone turn you on, well . . . you’re wrong.

    You see, ladies—we’re all secretly lesbians! At least, that’s what “science” would have you believe.

    Earlier this month, researchers from Essex University “discovered” through a “scientific study” that “all” women are bisexual or homosexual. Supposedly, the straight woman is a matter of myth.

    In the study, some three hundred women were shown sexually provocative videos of attractive men and women. Researchers claim that most female participants, including those who identified as heterosexual, became sexually aroused in response to images of both sexes. The primary evidence? Pupil dilation. The sensationalist conclusion? All women are gay.

    In the words of lead researcher Gerulf Rieger, the man behind the madness, “Even though the majority of women identify as straight, our research clearly demonstrates that when it comes to what turns them on, they are either bisexual or gay, but never straight.”

    That a random male researcher would conclude that he understands every single woman’s sexuality better than women do themselves is bad enough. That these researchers would point to painfully fragile evidence to paint a broad, black-and-white picture of female sexuality and then pass it off as infallible fact or universal truth is reckless and irresponsible.

    Nonetheless, we’re left with the science fiction that if your eyes get too wide when you see an attractive woman—boom!—you’re a lesbian.

    http://acculturated.com/not-all-women-are-lesbians/

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  58. Yoda says:

    Make stuff up they do.

    In 2002, Michael Finkel was fired from the New York Times after the newspaper discovered that his feature story was not about a single victim of the African slave trade, but actually a fake character made up of several men he had interviewed in the region.

    It appears that same tactic has been used by researcher David Lisak, whose theory about serial rapists on college campuses has heavily influenced campus sexual assault policies and who was featured prominently in the film, “The Hunting Ground.”

    Lisak gives a presentation about sexual assault that includes a video “reenactment of an interview conducted by Dr. David Lisak … as part of a study of men who had raped but were never reported or prosecuted for their crimes.” The video shows Lisak interviewing “Frank,” an actor purported to be reading a transcript from an interview Lisak actually conducted as part of his research.

    “Rather, he is an aggregation of several interviews from Lisak’s dissertation research, which raises the level of concern by an order of magnitude,” wrote Reason’s Linda LeFauve. “Material cut-and-pasted is material at risk of serving an agenda. Had Lisak described the video as intentionally designed to make a point, it might — might — even be an understandable agenda were it not for the two problems already noted: It is based on material decades out of date, and it is edited to make a point about serial predators not backed by research.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/more-problems-with-a-famous-campus-sexual-assault-study/article/2576856

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  59. Yoda says:

    No Pajama Boy a MGTOW he is,

    route from Beowulf to Pajama Boy has been a very long downhill slide. Popular culture has always shaped our standards and expectations, then as well as now. “Pajama Boy” is the current archetype of a new style of male — the government-approved, popular-culture-validated male, perhaps best defined recently by the New York Times list of 27 ways to be a Modern Man.

    From wastefulness (“The modern man checks the status of his Irish Spring bar before jumping in for a wash. Too small, it gets swapped out”), to silliness (“Does the modern man have a melon baller? What do you think? How else would the cantaloupe, watermelon and honeydew he serves be so uniformly shaped?”), to the assumption that he lives in the city (“The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn’t own one, and he never will”) to the relaxation of expectations (“The modern man cries. He cries often”), the modern male-identity situation has deteriorated into ambiguity.

    Pajama Boy is the embodiment of the absence of physical strength, and thereby the supplantation of the concept of physical masculinity. Some have rebelled against this situation in their own way.

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2015/11/20/pajama-boy-redux-the-male-in-modern-society

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    “Relax. I have thrown at least as many bum steers as Tarn has.”

    Makes a change from goats, I guess

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    %s/sheep/goat/g
    %s/Sheep/Goat/g

    A man goes into a pub in a small town and, for whatever reason, gets introduced to the clientele. There’s Farmer Jack, Barman Jim, Maurice “Dancer” and Sheepshagger John. After a few pints, the visitor’s curiosity gets the better of him and he asks John what’s with the nickname.

    “See this pub?” asks John, “I built it, but they don’t call me Pubbuilder John? I’m the local doctor, I saved Barman Jim’s life once when he choked on a peanut, but they don’t call me Lifesaver John. Every year, I supply a huge Christmas tree for the village green, but the don’t call me Christmas Tree John.

    “But you shag one lousy sheep…”

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  62. Farm Boy says:

    From the front lines of Ivy League privilege:

    “I was accepted as the class of 2014,” Nissy Aya, CC ’16, said. “I will not receive a degree until 2016, if that is any marker of how hard it has been for me to get through this institution.”

    Aya was a panelist at an open discussion on Wednesday evening where students and faculty called for more inclusive curricula and greater centralization of resources for marginalized communities at Columbia—particularly for students of color.

    Why has it been so hard for Nissy Aya to get her degree on time? She was forced to read books by white people:

    Aya said that the the Core Curriculum further silences students of color by requiring students to read texts that ignore the existence of marginalized people and their histories.

    “It’s traumatizing to sit in Core classes,” Aya said. “We are looking at history through the lens of these powerful, white men. I have no power or agency as a black woman, so where do I fit in?”

    Aya mentioned that even in her most recent Art Humanities class, the word “primitive” was used five times to describe Congolese art—a label she did not speak up against because she was tired of already having worked that day to address so many other instances of racism and discrimination, she said.

    Hey Nissy Aya, maybe the problem is you — and maybe some grown-up at the university needs to tell you that. As the Daily Caller points out, Columbia has one of the highest four-year graduation rates in the country. Maybe Nissy Aya didn’t study hard enough. I graduated on time by the skin of my teeth because I was lazy, and didn’t study hard enough in one class I found difficult and boring. If the university has a stellar four-year graduation rate, that suggests that the problem is more likely to lie with Nissy Aya than with the university. Can we even say that these days?

    If a white kid were studying jazz at Juilliard, would he get away with blaming identity trauma for failing his classes, saying that he had to listen to too many black jazz composers? Could a black student studying classical music at the same institution get away with claiming trauma because all the composers were Dead White European Males? Come on.

    The college professor who tipped me off to this Columbia story said:

    Our patrimony is under assault. At some point someone just has to tell these kids the truth: some civilizations are better than others. But that has nothing to do with you. You are not inexorably linked to your ancestors. You can appropriate all the good insights anywhere you find them. To deny yourself goodness, truth, and beauty wherever it is, you wind up diminishing your own dignity, treating yourself as if you were no more than your color or your genes

    They key quote is “At some point someone just has to tell these kids the truth: some civilizations are better than others. ”

    Perhaps all civilizations have some virtues, but the above statement still holds.

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  63. blurkel says:

    “Pajama boy” is the latest derogatory term for the Metrosexual, who is clearly gay and has more dollars than sense. No man who is a regular of this site would ever consider adopting that lifestyle, and few men would. Not even the majority of gay men.

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  64. Farm Boy says:

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/11/the-dnc-just-lost-its-mind-and-maybe-its-own-base-with-this-new-ad/

    I’ve seen my share of nasty, bizarre, and over-the-top political ads. But this may be the first that I can honestly say is just plain stupid.

    To begin with, the ad is horribly tone-deaf. I don’t doubt that the decision-makers in the Democratic Party are horrified by the phrase “radical Islam.” But a new poll released today on the issue found that a supermajority of Americans agree that the United States is at war with radical Islam, including 56% of Democratic voters. Only 24% of the country agrees with the president. So right off the bat, the Democratic Party is attacking Republicans for a stance their own voters agree with.

    But of course, the ad attacked Republicans for just saying “radical Islam,” not saying we’re at war with it. Well, 92% of Americans also say “radical Islamic terrorism” is a serious threat to the United States. But hey, at least the DNC is making inroads with that 8%.

    To say nothing of the timing behind the ad. Literally any other time of the year, voters might have just rolled their eyes at the unbearable PC-ness of it all. But the DNC ad comes after a series of major terrorist attacks across the globe… and after President Barack Obama gave a speech in response that left the impression that he was more fired up about attacking his domestic critics than taking on ISIS. To attack Republicans for “inciting fear” about radical Islam in the wake of nonstop news about radical Islamic terror is just an unbelievable misfire.

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  65. Tarnished says:

    Okay…I have good customers and close acquaintances who are Muslim. I’ve flown in a private plane with a Muslim pilot. There’s a local mosque that holds a food drive every year in October for my area’s food pantry. At the risk of being cliché: Not All Muslims Are Radicals.

    But the ones that are?
    The terrorists who seek to actively destroy us and our civilization? Damn straight we’re at war with them, as it should be. Anyone with a brain in their head can see that.

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  66. Yoda says:

    How fast MGTOW grow it will?

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  67. Yoda says:

    Wonder what percentage of MGTOws never heard the term they did…

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  68. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I think that MGTOW will grow at a rate in diret proportion to the fembots finding ways to heap scorn on ordinary, innocent men.

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  69. Tarnished says:

    So…exponentially?

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  70. Cill says:

    “At some point someone just has to tell these kids the truth: some civilizations are better than others”

    Well I for one would feel traumatized by studying the ancient Minoans. How dare the people who provide information about it on the internet put me through the distressing experience of being exposed to all those Mediterraneans without one mention – one mention – of my Cillsquatch ancestors? Come to think of it, how dare we have search engines at all, when they are built predominantly by white men – as evidenced by the fact that the world wide web contains far more information about white civilization than my Cillsquatch clan? My clan had as many as a whopping 30 members at one time FFS.

    These are reasons why I demand a safe space.

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic, Dalrock hit one out of the park. Wife claims to be abused by a husband who has spent the last three yars in an Iranian prison for preaching hristianity.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/11/21/the-temptation-for-wives-to-claim-abuse/

    Tarn,
    With a story like this, exponentially may be correct.

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  72. Spawny Get says:

    “At some point someone just has to tell these kids the truth: some civilizations are better than others”

    Sounds problematically akin to perma-victim blaming. Blaming perma-victims. Something like that.

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  73. Cill says:

    “Relax. I have thrown at least as many bum steers as Tarn has.”

    Makes a change from goats, I guess

    It might, for example, come as a shock to some to learn that I might not necessarily be a Cillsquatch. The very notion of Cillsquatchery itself might be a – wait for it – bum steer. (Or a goat’s blue-chalked arse whatever (shrug))

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  74. Cill says:

    Hell Fuzzy. “Wife claims to be abused by a husband who has spent the last three yars in an Iranian prison for preaching [C]hristianity.” ??? Must read.

    (Sounds like the bloke who was prosecuted for not paying child support while he was held kidnapped in Iraq)

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  75. Cill says:

    I can’t believe my eyes. The abuse started early in their marriage and has worsened during Saeed’s imprisonment, she said.

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  76. Farm Boy says:

    They want everybody to know that the clowns are not in charge,

    With changes afoot, the University of Missouri is facing an image crisis after days of protests over concerns about the administration’s handling of racial issues and subsequent leadership resignations.

    Upset and embarrassed, confused graduates are calling the alumni association to vent and ask questions about what’s happened. State lawmakers who represent Columbia say state funding for the university likely will be under closer scrutiny this year. Worried parents have told the school they’re concerned about their sons and daughters.

    University of Missouri spokeswoman Mary Jo Banken says there’s no denying that the school went through “a really unsettling time – and it’s probably going to be somewhat unsettling for a while.”

    As the school deals with its tarnished reputation, the University of Missouri System has hired the son of U.S. Sen. Roy Blunt as a lobbyist, and about 20,000 newly accepted students who would start in the fall have been sent letters assuring them that campus is safe.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNIVERSITY_OF_MISSOURI_TURMOIL_PUBLIC_RELATIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-21-12-12-57

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  77. Farm Boy says:

    The abuse started early in their marriage and has worsened during Saeed’s imprisonment, she said.

    I wonder if he does this with Jedi Powers. Perhaps Yoda will chime in.

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  78. Farm Boy says:

    Historical Headline,

    “British Army Launches Offensive in the Somme — Women Hit Hardest”

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  79. Cill says:

    spawnyspace is not called spawny space for nuttin’, y’know.

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  80. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    It might be better if the clowns were running the circus. At least they might be funny.
    These people are not funny. I wouldn’t want anyone I care about to attend. It does sem fitting that so many people are making inquiries.

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  81. Tarnished says:

    It might, for example, come as a shock to some to learn that I might not necessarily be a Cillsquatch.

    What?!
    I don’t even know you anymore!
    Next you’re gonna say you’re not a man. Or a human. Or even a vertebrate.

    Cill…I want the truth…
    Are you a sentient jellyfish?

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  82. Tarnished says:

    The abuse started early in their marriage and has worsened during Saeed’s imprisonment, she said.

    Excuse me for a minute…

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  83. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I think that the concept of abuse has been abused.

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  84. blurkel says:

    …the University of Missouri System has hired the son of U.S. Sen. Roy Blunt as a lobbyist…

    Obviously, the State of Missouri isn’t seen as competent enough to deal with this issue. They have to resort to nepotism -hiring the son of a sitting US Senator- to drag in the Federal Government as enforcer.

    There is NO better way for big money (in this instance, the University of Missouri System, with millions if not billions in assets) to get the results they desire, bought relatively on the cheap, from the Best Government Corporate Money Can Buy.

    “The UM System is governed by a board of curators, consisting of nine members appointed by the governor with the advice and consent of the Missouri Senate.” (Wikipedia) In other words, UMS is essentially chartered to exist as an entity of the Government of the State of Missouri, which is now hiring the next level of government to do PR work it doesn’t feel like doing itself – nor paying for.

    Missouri is a state where the politics are closely divided between Red and Blue factions, and it isn’t clear which way the State Government would go. So the curators kick the can to the most-corrupt agency in American Governance, the US Senate, which is essentially owned by Wall St investors using taxpayer money to purchase the services of what passes for government in the US and who will stick the taxpayers with the bill through tax write-off contained in the tax laws which mere mortal humans with jobs can never use.

    Regardless of how one feels about the protesters at Mizzou and their issues, THIS is the greater crime, and will go unaddressed under the law, a system which only serves the interests of Big Money. We the People need not apply for such redress of grievance no matter what our Founding Documents say.

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  85. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I am sorry to hear that. Rejection is painful but, he should be leaing you alone. What it should mean to a man is “find another girl”. Could it be that men don’t see that many girls out there?
    I any event, I am sorry for you. He shouldn’t be putting you through all that.

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  86. blurkel says:

    I, too, am sorry about Bloom’s experience. But I’d never call such a male a man. Real men don’t need to abuse women like that to feel manly. In addition, such abuse goes beyond what I consider to be MGTOW.

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  87. Cill says:

    Yes, molly and cilhouette and others have had similar problems IRL.

    If his obsession is bad enough, we’ve found only one way of stopping it, and that’s by a bloke seeing him face to face and sorting it out.

    [I’m only talking from experiences at this end. Not recommending that a man put himself in danger]

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  88. Farm Boy says:

    Obviously, the State of Missouri isn’t seen as competent enough to deal with this issue. They have to resort to nepotism -hiring the son of a sitting US Senator- to drag in the Federal Government as enforcer

    That is embarrassing on many counts,
    1. That a senator’s son has to play off of his Dad’s influence. It as if he could not make it on his own.
    2. That the University has to resort to such a blatant ploy.

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  89. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    It seems as if all the parties to this have covered themselves in something we’d rather not step in.

    Cill,
    Have you had to do a little sorting out on behalf of Molly and Cillhouette?

    Bloom,
    Given Cill’s input, thee has been a need for this throughout time.

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  90. Cill says:

    Yes Fuzzy. Such problems arise due to the pulchritude of the female half of Cillsquatchdom.
    (The males on the other hand are about as pretty as hacked rock.)

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    That all depend on your point of view. To the women, the men must look good. That, or they have other redeeming traits.
    I do believe you when you say the Cillsquatch ladies are beautiful.

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  92. Sumo says:

    Such problems arise due to the pulchritude of the female half of Cillsquatchdom.
    (The males on the other hand are about as pretty as hacked rock.)

    That’s nearly an exact opposite of my family – the wimminfolk in Clan Sumo are fugly, whereas I…….. 😉

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  93. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I am glad that you got it behind you.
    You have had more than your share of bad luck

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  94. Cill says:

    Bloom, if it starts up again, the one you warned was probably not him after all, so give the same warning to this bloke.

    I doubt that he’ll bother you again. At my end some have needed more than a warning, and that’s where I came in. Basically it’s conditioning. Make them consciously and subconsciously associate the woman with something extremely unpleasant.

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  95. Farm Boy says:

    Blurkel,

    Didn’t you have a post scheduled?

    Like

  96. Cill says:

    Blurkel does have one there but it’s not scheduled for a publish time. One of us should fire ahead and publish it, I think.

    Like

  97. Cill says:

    New Post by Blurkel “The Gender Games

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  98. SFC Ton says:

    I think any version of a bachelor tax would have to be pretty stealthy, like obma care. Taxing video games at a higher rate might also cause a backlash as girls are growing fans of sports, video games, guns, bikes etc. Maybe a small up side of hatch wounds pushing themselves into male spaces?

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  99. SFC Ton says:

    Lets be honest, we are at war wit islam or rather islam is at war with us

    it is commanded by the child rapist mohamet

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  100. SFC Ton says:

    Many men do under stand female sexuality better then most women. Few women understand their own sexuality… think of the I want a nice guy statement from a chick sucking every bad boy cock in town.

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  101. SFC Ton says:

    No worries Bloom. Just think, that is the kind of 24 hour security you could have here at Camp Ton…..

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  102. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    There is something wrong with him. That he would propose a relationship that you could not accept should have ended ithere.
    We are dancing around a profound issue here. It’s rejection.
    In his case, he must have given his hope free rein. He shouldn’t have done that.

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  103. molly says:

    Fuzzie still awake?

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  104. Spawny Get says:

    “Make them consciously and subconsciously associate the woman with something extremely unpleasant.”

    Aww mate, don’t be hard on yourself. Me love you long time.

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  105. Spawny Get says:

    Hatch wounds? Ton, you incorrigible romantic, you

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  106. Cill says:

    Fuck a flapping duck me old mate…

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  107. Cill says:

    That’s it for the night. I’m off to the land of nod. Goodnight my mates.

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  108. blurkel says:

    Re: the delayed publishing of my latest post:

    When I scheduled it, I was on a WordPress page I didn’t recognize. I can’t tell you how I got there, but it seemed to do as I expected. I guess if things don’t look quite right to me in the future, I’ll reload and see what happens then.

    Thanks for the launch, Cill.

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  109. Tarnished says:

    Bloom,
    Sorry to hear you’ve put up with such a louse of a guy. I’ve also had to deal with men who just refuse to accept a polite decline of a date and resort to spreading untrue gossip or following me around, but it must be even worse for you. After all, you’ve got younglings. At least I only have to watch my own back…can’t begin to imagine how it’d be if I had kids.

    For me, it usually (but not always) happens on the rare occasion I dress in a feminine way. Have you noticed the same? This has served to make me associate dresses/skirts with vulnerability. Lol, I wore a nice form fitting dress with red knee high stockings for my love yesterday…and was paranoid and incredibly self-conscious the entire day. Couldn’t wait to take the wretched thing off. *sigh* The things one does for love…

    Blurkel,
    Not only do we have a comic shop, but I work at it!

    Ton,
    Really…”hatchet wound”? 😒 😝
    You silver tongued rogue.
    I bet that’s how you get all the ladies.

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  110. SFC Ton says:

    to the tune of a 300 plus N count and a ploy home with women much younger then me

    I dropped about 40 pounds of pork belly in her lap and said “there bitch I brought home the bacon now get on your knees” and down she went with some mock out rage and one of those I am trying not to smile mean faces

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  111. SFC Ton says:

    Don’t tell Bloom y’all are sorry! Tell her to move to Camp Ton……

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  112. Spawny Get says:

    “I wore a nice form fitting dress with red knee high stockings for my love yesterday”

    Pix or it didn’t happen

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  113. Tarn I wear skirts and dresses often. I don’t find doing so attracts unwanted attention, if anything I find I am acknowledged w more respect than when I am in my tomboy attire. That said they are pretty demure, so the results might vary if they were more on the sexy side. I don’t dress like that unless I was w a guy and it was for him. That way other guys won’t approach or if they do they can talk to the man! Lol. Sweet of you to do that for your guy!

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  114. Tarnished says:

    Sorry, Spawny. I’ve not a single picture of me in a dress. 😛

    I don’t find doing so attracts unwanted attention, if anything I find I am acknowledged w more respect than when I am in my tomboy attire.
    Hmm, yet it’s opposite for me. I wonder if it’s something to do with the demographic of my state. Although the worst occurance happened while walking around in Indianapolis, so that doesn’t necessarily seem like the reason…Weird.

    That said they are pretty demure, so the results might vary if they were more on the sexy side.
    Lol. I don’t think the few I’ve worn are all that sexy, but then I’ve no fashion sense, so they could’ve been, I suppose. None of them are slinky gowns or have plunging collars though.

    I don’t dress like that unless I was w a guy and it was for him.
    Yeah, that’s the main reason of why I dress like that sometimes. He really enjoys knowing other guys look at me when I’m dressed in a feminine manner…it’s a huge turn on for him to be with me when I’m “highly desired”. I don’t fully get it, because it doesn’t matter to me if others want him. *I* desire him and find him attractive, and that’s enough for me.

    Sweet of you to do that for your guy!
    In a way, yes. But I’d be lying through my teeth if I said it was purely altruistic. I needed sex, and knew that dressing as such would help spark his libido despite his depressive “winter mood”. It was a last ditch effort which thankfully worked…I just hope it wasn’t manipulative. :/

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  115. Tarnished says:

    I think it was, at least a little, and that doesn’t sit well with my morals at all. But if it’s the only thing that breaks him from his depression, even temporarily, is it bad? Ugh…

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    “I just hope it wasn’t manipulative”
    You’re looking too deeply. I’m sure he was happy with the whole scenario. I wouldn’t reckon that he likes being down. You picked his mood up. He got rampant…s’all good.

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  117. Spawny Get says:

    Put down the self flagellation whip and step away from it.

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  118. Tarnished says:

    Okay…
    You’re right. I’m looking at it the wrong way. He was much happier, which is a good thing. 😄

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  119. @ Tarn nah, I wouldn’t call that manipulation. I can’t say this for sure not being a guy, but I suspect if they don’t want to, they don’t. But I will leave that to the guys to answer…

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  120. SFC Ton says:

    good be a difference in how y’all are dressing
    one girls sexy might be hot librarian look the other dressed like an immodest hooker

    and no I am not saying Tarn dressed like a hooker. Although…….

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  121. Spawny Get says:

    My guess is that a dress is as ‘extreme’ as Tarn’s outfits get.

    Wouldn’t it be great if women wanting sex followed this unicorn’s lead? Dress up, make him horny, bonkedy-bonk annnnd everyone’s a winner. Sounds like Nirvana.

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  122. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    That’s too simple and too direct..

    Tarn,
    If it’s manipulation it’s fairly overt. I think you’re Ok.

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  123. Spawny Get says:

    “That’s too simple and too direct..”
    Could women practice and work their way up to it? Or is it only for unicorns?

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  124. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t think so. I am beginning to lose faith and hope.

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    If you can lose caring, you can let faith and hope simmer on a back ring. Outcome independence, if you can manage it, is a better way to live. For me, anyway.

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  126. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That may be afault of mine. I care. Why else would I choose a bear for an avatar?

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  127. Spawny Get says:

    At least you get to meet a real life Unicorn next year. Seeing as it’ll be at a con, maybe you can wear a bear suit? Tarn could dress up as Goldilocks… I want pics.

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  128. Spawny Get says:

    I’d love to help you, mate. I really would

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  129. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Thanks for the good wishes.

    Liked by 3 people

  130. SFC Ton says:

    Out come independence is based on knowing I will be better then ok regardless of any short term set back

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  131. Cill says:

    Different words, but basically the same thing I tell my young men.

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  132. Cillhouette says:

    Change type of clothes is something we can try, and different styles. Also, try one or 2 little movements or mannerisms and watch the man very closley (slyly so he won’t notice! 😉 ). Practice the walk and keep it for him in private! Observe what arouses him. Don’t try it too soon, store it away and test another movement or mannerism next day. Don’t make it obvious! During the next few weeks try different types of clothing. I know how to do it, I was taught. I knew a *lot* about his libido before we had sex. That’s why I got pregnant withing a few hours of our wedding! He’s a very happy man that can’t wait to get home from work each day! 🙂

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  133. Tarnished says:

    Bloom,
    Believe me…that is very true.

    Cillhouette,
    I wish mine was that easy. Seasonal depression sucks.

    Ton,
    I’ve no hooker-esque outfits. Neither of us have an “appreciation” for slutty clothes. I’d sooner be naked than wear them. Regular day dresses/sundresses are indeed the extreme of what I’ll wear in public, and even then only sparingly for reasons mentioned prior.

    Spawny,
    See, because it’s Gencon and already full of cosplayers, a Goldilocks outfit wouldn’t even get a second glance.

    Wouldn’t it be great if women wanting sex followed this unicorn’s lead? Dress up, make him horny, bonkedy-bonk annnnd everyone’s a winner.
    Ah, but see, Spawny…you’re missing the point of the equation where the type we’re speaking of don’t want the bonkedy-bonk. That’s the issue, and we come around full circle to the fact that these women use sex as a reward/tool instead of something to mutually enjoy.

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  134. Spawny Get says:

    Perhaps, to round out the three bears, Cill could come as Boo-boo and I’ll come as Winnie the Grand Pooh-Bah.

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  135. Spawny Get says:

    *Wiktionary(0.00 / 0 votes)Rate this definition:

    grand poobah(Noun)
    A person who is important or high-ranking.

    grand poobah(Noun)
    An extremely pompous person.

    Origin: From Pooh-Bah, the name of the character in Gilbert and Sullivan’s The Mikado (1885).

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  136. Spawny Get says:

    Clearly the first definition is the applicable one. Don’t know how the second one got there.

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  137. Tarnished says:

    Lol! That’d certainly be something to see, Spawny. 😀

    Back onto semi-topic of Blurkel’s post here.
    What happens when the guy “gets it” for years…But then he’s told the entire thing was basically an illusion, and his prowess was a pretty lie:
    https://reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/3ts48u/good_lord_where_do_i_even_start/

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  138. Tarnished says:

    Damn it.
    Clicked on the wrong post. Bringing this comment over there now…

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  139. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    My response to it is on the correct thread then. Good.

    I like the ‘Three Bears” concept!

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  140. Congrats on the pending arrival Cillouette! 😀

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