Frivorce — Part VI


So a man learns that he is about to be frivorced.  What should he do? Since it is a frivorce, reconciliation does not make sense.  He should realize that the situation is now contest, he should be calm and resolute, and not take things personally.  For the drama is about to begin.

First, lawyer up.  Find a good one.  Realize that most every conceivable accusation can and will be thrown at you.  Be ready for it.  If there are children involved, she will use them as pawns, and try to leverage them to her benefit; even to their detriment.  You must be ready for this and counter it.

If you want the greatest feasible parental rights with your children, you need to be (and maintain) a squeaky clean situation.  This would include a good job, no brushes with the law, a fine home. etc.  The father is always held to a higher standard with respect to these things.

When you do gain parental rights (e.g. weekends), make sure that the children see only the best of you.  Don’t be drunk, don’t be swearing, keep the place clean, etc.  You want the kids to be able to tell the truth to officials about the situation at your place.

The ex will probably try to bait you into doing something foolish.  Don’t fall for it.  Keep your cool. Realize that this is what she is trying to do.

This really becomes a game of chess.  One needs to think several moves ahead.

I am sure that commenters have other tips.

As usual, NAWALT applies

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165 comments on “Frivorce — Part VI
  1. SFC Ton says:

    To win a man needs to be willing to destroy everything. Kids included. Sourced earth is the only tactic

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  2. Tarnished says:

    I am sure that commenters have other tips.

    Keep records of any correspondence between you and your ex. Save emails, have copies of letters, and…if legal in your state…record phone conversations.

    Do not have friends or new girlfriends over while you have visitation, at least for the first month or so. You don’t want your ex being able to claim you’re “not paying attention” to your child.

    Keep your home clean, groceries stocked, keep helping your kid with homework/projects, ask them questions about school and friends. Make sure they realize that you are still there for them and love them, even though there has been a divorce.

    Never be late for a meeting with your child’s law guardian. They are supposed to represent your child in divorce/custody proceedings…but I can attest through personal experience with mine that they do have biases based on parental interactions.

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Something is wrong when half of all marriages end in divorce and that two thirds of those are likely to be frivorce. Considering the average guy has no clue until papers are served, he is completely unprepared. The first order of business is to retain a cutthroat lawyer.
    There is going to be hell to pay in the hereafter for all the people who abused the process while throwinhg away a sound marriage. There will never be any justice in this plane of existence.

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  4. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic, It may well be that the sexual grievance industry is grasping at straws. I don’t know. From COTWA

    http://www.cotwa.info/2015/10/colleges-are-covering-up-epic-numbers.html

    I had a wicked thought. I wonder if sting operations can be mounted against bad rape counselors?

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  5. SFC Ton says:

    Semi on topic…. well helps drive frivorce

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  6. Yoda says:

    To win a man needs to be willing to destroy everything.

    Keyser Soze strategy this would be.
    If one does intend,
    best to let spouse know during marriage it would be

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  7. Yoda says:

    I wonder if sting operations can be mounted against bad rape counselors?

    A planned parenthood record operation you do mean?
    Interesting it would be

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  8. Yoda says:

    From Dr Helen,

    The article spends the first part telling how a man can get the shaft if he does his “duty” and then tells him to do it anyway? No thanks. Why love a country that hates you? Why spend all the time trying to help kids who will turn on you on a dime if mom tells them to? Why have a moral code that keeps you trapped doing the “right thing” that leaves your life and emotional health in turmoil? The right thing according to society is for men to do as they are told and keep their mouths shut no matter what the consequences. Is this a real man?

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  9. Yoda says:

    From Dr Helen’s comments


    This culture has bought the feminist line. So, real men have to go their own way. MGTOW is a reaction to feminist hatred. Most people realize that hard times are coming. The open perversion practiced in this country are symptomatic of the fall of a civilization. I must admit that I understand the ancient Roman men who deserted to the various Barbarians. Feminism has destroyed civilization before.

    So, what happens to real men? If they have a strong sense of their moral self, how could they defend this culture of death? I reckon that some folks aren’t amused by selling baby parts. Outright horror is an honest reaction. As women descend into feral feminism, there’s no real hope for a family and children. ANY woman can destroy her family on a whim……she gets unhappy, and that’s that. You see, American women don’t have to profess rabid feminism to benefit from the legal benefits. So, no young man can actually trust a young woman. Sad, but true.

    The outright destruction of the family is in sight. And, that will put paid to the American experiment. Civil war is coming. Most older folks know SOMETHING is coming. Barbarians are drawn to effeminate perversion. Americans have never fought openly since the last Civil War.

    True masculinity is repelled by perversion. Islam is an obvious solution. Young men are going to see that Islam controls it’s women. They don’t tolerate the madness that is so prevalent here. Historically, this won’t end well.

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I hope that it doesn’t go that far.

    Your thought about doing a clandestine recording is a lot more practical than hoping for prosecution. To see them condemned in the court of public opinion may be enough.
    It would be good to wath a youtube video of false victim being encouraged to tell tall tales in court.

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    To see them condemned in the court of public opinion may be enough.

    The media does all that it can to not talk about planned parenthood. Such an operation would be treated in the same manner.

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Perhaps liberals see protecting Planned Parenthood as protecting abortion on demand? From what little I have seen of the tapes, the PP bunch are a bunch of ghouls. I am surprised they are still funded.
    However, there are alternatives to MSN and the word got out.
    It would be good to see a few of these rape counselors, who turn confusion into major crimes, end up on youtube for the world to see.

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  13. Spawny Get says:

    The threat of scorched earth is, I believe, what Deti uses / used to keep his marriage together. He may drop in to confirm that. It can work, but clearly the resultant marriage is pure red pill for the man. The blue pill love is incompatible with it.

    Happy to delete this if I’m wrong.

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  14. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn…just do it

    Fuzzie et al…consider it a bear video with a lot of good natured black humour. Safe for children too.

    Link is blocked here…does it work for you?

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t know if Deti used “scorched earth”, although, I think he would have threatened it. In one comment, he said that he kept it all together for the kids. If it were just he and Mrs. Deti, he’d be out of there. More than that would be speculation. It would be best to hear it straight from him. The last word I had, things at home were calm. Keep fingers crossed.

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  16. Spawny Get says:

    “I think he would have threatened it”
    Yep. That’s what I meant to say. Just to be clear. Sweet dreams

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    On second thoughts, Father Ted is only suitable for children that don’t know what ‘arse’ means…or ‘feck’ either. Father Jack’s other favoured word, that he repeats endlessly is ‘drink’

    His last eye test gave him miraculous eyesight results

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  18. Tarnished says:

    To win a man needs to be willing to destroy everything. Kids included. Scorched earth is the only tactic.

    Clarification on the terms “destroy” and “scorched earth” in this context would be nice. It means something to me, given my own biological father…but I am fairly confident scfton didn’t mean it the way my dad did. At least, I’m very much hoping not.

    Don’t want my own experiences to taint someone else’s comment…

    Tarn edited to add:
    Just for clarification on my end in case my own comment was too vague, “destroy” in *my* experience means “kill”. As in, during a drunken rage one day, dear ol’ dad said he’d “destroy” me and my half-sister if he didn’t win full custody. Because if he couldn’t have us, our mothers sure as hell shouldn’t. Obviously this was one of the nails in the coffin of our relationship, as not many kids want to be around a “parent” who thinks their life is nothing more than a pawn.

    So…yeah. That’s the initial thought that ran through my mind, but I’m pretty sure it’s not what scfton meant.

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  19. Tarnished says:

    Link is blocked here…does it work for you?

    It does indeed! Lol

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  20. Tarnished says:

    Before it, quite frankly, turned to crap, AVFM had a well-loved commenter/contributor who was divorced and sometimes made clandestine videos of his interactions with his young daughter’s law guardians and the lawyers in general.

    One video in particular was very disturbing. It involved the fact his daughter had been put on some form of medication to take during school hours (probably an anti-adhd), but the only reason he knew was because the girl casually mentioned it. He was justifiably upset that he wasn’t notified of this change in her lifestyle.

    Shockingly, the law guardian and counselor told him he really didn’t have any need…or right…to know. If this is what truly goes on behind the scenes of custodial court, I firmly believe more men should get vasectomized and become MGTOW.

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  21. Yoda says:

    Do not have friends or new girlfriends over while you have visitation

    Focus on children you should.
    Clear to them by actions this should be

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  22. Yoda says:

    Never ask children to spy on ex you should.
    If they want to talk about the ex, listen you should

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  23. Yoda says:

    Bad mouth the ex to the children one should not

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  24. Yoda says:

    View the ex with emotion not.
    Strong emotion causes mistakes they do

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  25. Yoda says:

    Realize that over it is.
    Then move on one can

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  26. Yoda says:

    Realize that evil thrust upon you it will.
    Be like a Boy Scout — Prepared this would be

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  27. Yoda says:

    Understand that guilty of the dastardly deed she will be.
    Try to justify her evil she will.
    Blame you in all cases happen it shall

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  28. Tarnished says:

    All very good points, Yoda.

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  29. Yoda says:

    Expect her to turn mutual friends against you

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  30. Yoda says:

    Understand that life will be different now one should.
    Perhaps the starting point this is.

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    Gamergate,

    Unless you count ISIS, it’s hard to think of a recent movement with a worse image than GamerGate. It has been variously described as a “hate group,” a “misogynist harassment campaign disguised as consumer revolt,” and a would-be political movement based on “threatening with rape any woman who has the temerity to offer an opinion about a video game.” This reputation has made GamerGate an easy target for scapegoating: in the past few weeks, it has been blamed for the hacking of the Patreon crowdfunding site and linked to Vesper Flanagan, the Virginia man who fatally shot two journalists on live television—in both cases wrongly, due to a hoax.

    But is GamerGate’s bad reputation itself unfair—the result of both deliberate smears and poor reporting? After following the movement for a year and interacting with its members, I strongly believe it is. And while the politics of video game journalism may not seem that important a subject, GamerGate—still active a year after it was first declared dead—is a phenomenon with far larger significance.

    http://observer.com/2015/10/blame-gamergates-bad-rep-on-smears-and-shoddy-journalism/

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  32. Good points Yoda has. Women could follow such advice to minimize troubles co-parenting, too.

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    Oh my goodness,

    http://spectator.org/blog/64345/behold-lena-dunham-costume-children

    That’s right, parents of America: nothing says “heroic role model for your daughter” like an over-rated, oversharing untalented television hack with a penchant for describing humiliating sexual experiences in great detail, lobbing unfounded accusations of rape against real people, and potentially engaging in unlawful sexual contact with a minor child. Perhaps you can even train your Kindergartener to say ridiculous things like, “I think I’m the voice of my generation,” “I blame Republicans for my lack of self-esteem,” and “Planned Parenthood killed at least a third of my classmates.” For added effect, she could tear off all of her clothes and run around naked eating cake.

    She probably does that anyway, since it’s acceptable behavior for a toddler.

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  34. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    That is not how I came to understand “scorched earth”. Given the context, what I belive what is meant is that all the assets will be destroyed, leaving no way for the initiatior to profit from the breakup.
    That your father would threaten to kill you, a daughter, over child support is something I have never heard of before.I am shuddering.

    Yoda,
    Good ideas, all of them.

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  35. Yoda says:

    what I belive what is meant is that all the assets will be destroyed, leaving no way for the initiatior to profit from the breakup.

    The common definition I do believe this is.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    Pretty sure that the fucknuts that came up with the progressive stack did not have this in mind

    I ❤ what she says.

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    This is what happens when the manginas take over the church, when the leftists control the attitude to any issue, when the clergy advocates removing signs of Christianity within churches so as not to upset muslims (this issue from Norway iirc)

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/14/church-england-set-collapse-rural-areas-plans-christmas-parishes/

    I’ve seen church research that said that the greatest guide to how religion continues in the children, is the father’s attitude. Women control the money given to the church, but when the men abandon the mangina church…the kids don’t turn up in the future.

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  38. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    More off topic. COTWA takes a swipe at #cocksnotglocks.
    http://www.cotwa.info/2015/10/creator-of-cocksnotglocks-protest.html
    Are campus feminists crazy, or what?

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  39. molly says:

    The saga continues! Lol. Last night I had friends at my house. We heard a noise and we went out and found 2 naked men tied up so tight they couldn’t move! They were too embarrassed to say what happened. One guess who did it and why! 😄

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  40. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    I wouldn’t appen to besomeone who drov all the wayino town, went to an importanteeting, and then saw that omeone had written”Iuck goats.” on his forehead?
    It’s beginning to soun as of practical jkes are goinga little too far. 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    It’s hard not to like Mercedes Carrera, she is very direct.

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  42. Tarnished says:

    That your father would threaten to kill you, a daughter, over child support is something I have never heard of before. I am shuddering.

    Oh, it wasn’t over child support…he actually was not paying any at the time. It was just ultra-possessiveness. The “if you don’t live with me, you won’t live with anyone” mentality. Fairly common in people who are narcissistic and have deliberately unmedicated mood disorders like my dad.

    A case like this happened in Texas this past summer, matter of fact. The guy shot and killed his ex, her new husband, his own son, and the other 5 kids. Even if I could comprehend the fact he hated his ex enough to kill her, I can’t possibly know what would make one snap enough to murder 6 children under 13, including your own. People are scary sometimes…

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  43. Yoda says:

    Probably Moe guilty he is.

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  44. Yoda says:

    It’s hard not to like Mercedes Carrera

    A car this is?

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  45. Yoda says:

    Mercedes Carrera

    Powerful headlights that model has.

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  46. Tarnished says:

    Holy crap. This just showed up in my inbox:

    https://www.change.org/p/congress-don-t-force-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-go-to-the-police-vote-no-on-the-unsafecampusact

    So now victims of sexual assault shouldn’t even have to go to the police? Yet their supposed attackers should still be subjected to the full extent of the law?

    Wow. And it already has 13,100 supporters. What the hell…

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  47. Tarnished says:

    Probably Moe guilty he is.

    Picturing Cill in a homemade Moe mask tying these guys up now…Can totally see it. 😛

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  48. Yoda says:

    The club big thing with Moe it would be.

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    Why are you guys denying the true victims? The goats.

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  50. Tarnished says:

    Poor goats!
    They need their fainting couches…

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  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Porn stars usually retire into obscurity. This one has chosen a whole new road as a youtuber.

    Somehow, I can’t see the goats tying up someone. Who could this mysterious person be?

    Molly,
    We are correct in assuming this is all a joke, right?

    Tarn,
    I love it when the goats are immobile except for their little tails wagging from playing with their humans.

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  52. Spawny Get says:

    I just hope they don’t come to ‘regret’ their liaisons. Either of their own accord or if they’re nannied into it.

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  53. molly says:

    The 2 men didn’t know Cill well enough. They know him a bit better now 😉

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  54. Spawny Get says:

    Not as well as the goats, I trust.

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  55. Tarnished says:

    Really, Spawny? Puns? I thought you were better than that. *sigh* You’re such a woggle-bug…

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  56. Spawny Get says:

    “I thought you were better than that”
    I can’t imagine why.

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  57. Tarnished says:

    A cute video for Fuzzie:

    Bob Ross and a baby owl

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  58. Tarnished says:

    I can’t imagine why.

    It’s the accent.

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  59. Tarnished says:

    Oh, oh…wait!
    Spawny, do you actually know what/who the Woggle-bug is?!
    I will be so amazingly happy if you (or anyone, really) does!

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    Ahh, you colonials. You hear an English accent and drop your guard. Unwise. Very. I mean, how silly do you feel about it now? 🙂

    Btw I reckon that Sargon has a similar accent to mine. In case you were wondering.

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    Nope…entirely new one to me

    What did you reckon of Father Ted? I reckon I’ve mentioned it before, but it seems you’re especially gullible… 😉 it really is a great series.

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  62. Tarnished says:

    Sargon of Akkad? Nice.

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  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    It was the fainting goats video that got this thread rolling!

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  64. Tarnished says:

    Professor H.M. Woggle-bug, T.E.

    Apparently I’m the only person who’s read all the Oz books. 😛

    I enjoyed it, Spawny. Much better than that “Absolutely Fabulous” crap of ours mi madre watches.

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  65. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    What happened? I am beginning to think that this was not a practical joke. Did someone try to play a trik on you?

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    iirc Sargon lives in Swindon…Not all that far from Bristol. Don’t think he grew up there though. He sounds mostly generic south east to me…mostly

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  67. Sumo says:

    The 2 men didn’t know Cill well enough. They know him a bit better now

    I had no idea that Cill swung that way.

    Also, I knew that woggle bug thing. The Mighty Sumo surprisingly well read.

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  68. Spawny Get says:

    Perhaps it’s an antipodean thing? I hear Aussies tie their kangaroos down…sport.

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  69. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    Were they policemen who tried tro give you a ticket for speeding?

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Before men became pussies killing your wife etc for trying to ruin you would have been a tad bit extreme but not untoward. They are, after all property

    I would note, women behave better under such duress, fear makes them wet and well behaved, but the one of the reasons it is difficult to discuss anything with Tarn is that sort of extreme is her go to wondering. I get it comes from a terrible child hood experience but it’s a default negative view of actually masculinty

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  71. Spawny Get says:

    The Tarn conundrum is that those experiences made Tarn idealistic and good hearted. I didn’t become friends out of sympathy, I very much like the spirit and humanity. I’d like to think that the masculinity here is a good example of how ideas and experiences are batted around by men looking to solve issues.

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  72. Spawny Get says:

    I had a productive day and have enjoyed the banter here very much. Would have been even better if Cill was around too…

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  73. Tarnished says:

    Also, I knew that woggle bug thing. The Mighty Sumo surprisingly well read.

    And amazing.
    But you knew that already, of course.

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  74. Tarnished says:

    I’d like to think that the masculinity here is a good example of how ideas and experiences are batted around by men looking to solve issues.

    Indeed. There are many forms that masculinity can take, which is quite evident in the wide range of menfolk we have here. Yet everyone is trying to solve similar issues brought on by rampant feminism.

    The Tarn conundrum is that those experiences made Tarn idealistic and good hearted.

    Spawny is kind, but gives me too much credit. He forgets that I work in retail, and thus have no soul or faith in humanity left to speak of, with it being perpetually crushed by the unwashed masses.

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  75. Tarnished says:

    I had a customer today who put his PS3 in his freezer. Because the fan was “being too loud”. It still had frost on it when he put the poor thing on my counter.
    *click*
    Hear that?
    It’s the sound of my brain restarting after talking to this lovely failure of natural selection. I’m sure I don’t need to remind Spawny how dangerous this is, given that I’m blonde. 😛

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  76. Tarnished says:

    Would have been even better if Cill was around too…
    Hopefully he’s not off tying up anymore dudes.
    Or goats.

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn became my friend because I told a little fib…that I had a Bristolian accent…

    Good night

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  78. Spawny Get says:

    3 crackers in a row there, Tarn

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  79. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Or policemen who would give tickets to Molly.

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  80. molly says:

    Fuzzie those cops were soo nice to me, eh. 😉 (when I take off my helmet and climb off my bike in tight leathers)
    Do u think I should do that? Is it fair?
    A bribe for your thoughts O wise 🐻 …
    🌯 🌯 🌯 🌯 🙄

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  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    I can see you getting off the motorcycle and a a cascade of hair fom taking off your helmet. That would melt any man’s heart.
    As for speeding, you have to be hyper aware to anticipate other’s mistakes.

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  82. Tarnished says:

    I would note, women behave better under such duress, fear makes them wet

    The desire to soothe my lover is infinitely more of an arousal trigger, speaking for myself. When he’s upset, I want him to be happy. When he’s in pain, I want to give him pleasure. When he trusts me with his fears and talks about his grievances of the day, the need to provide intimacy and sensual comfort is nearly overwhelming.

    Unfortunately, this seems to be the direct opposite reaction of most female types according to the manosphere. Perhaps if it wasn’t, there’d be fewer manosphere denizens.

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  83. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    I went to Google Chrome and saw wonderful burritos! Thank you!

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  84. Sumo says:

    And amazing.
    But you knew that already, of course.

    Well……yes.

    A challenge for Tarn from The Mighty Sumo!!!! Tell me who Smoit is. Or at least which literary work I’m referencing.

    This is on the honor system, mind. No Googling allowed. 😉

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  85. Tarnished says:

    Was this particular Smoit a king, perchance? If so, then he’s from The Black Cauldron. I know it’s a trilogy, but that’s the only one I’ve read.

    If I got it right, let’s try this one on for size…What is Milamber’s original name? If you can’t recall, what novels is he from?

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Sumo,
    Google is magic. It makes burritos appear.
    I do have a problem with IE9. Its security won’t allow wordpress emoticons.

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  87. Tarnished says:

    IE9? Crap, Fuzzie. Nobody was kind enough to give you the memo?
    Internet Explorer’s sole remaining purpose is to download Chrome or Firefox. 😉

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  88. molly says:

    Fuzzie! Always use Chrome instead!
    (or palemoon or iron or a proxy server like I do 🙂 )

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  89. Sumo says:

    Point of order – The Chronicles of Prydain is a quintet, not a trilogy. Otherwise, you are correct.

    I’m attempting to sound superior as a way to cover the fact that I don’t know your reference. Never heard of that character.

    On the topic of original names, what was Thorn Drumheller’s?

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  90. molly says:

    Ho! I got one for ya! Who is William the Conqueror’s many many many times great granddaughter? (clue: not the Queen)

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    Cill did make a passing reference to that some months ago.
    Years ago, my grandmother showed me something mde for her at Burke’s Peerage. I should have been sitting down when I saw it. However, the Conqueror wasn’t among them.

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  92. Tarnished says:

    Molly, I am at a loss for your question!

    Sumo,
    Pfft. Really? I was expecting more…
    Willow, of course. You really think I’d miss out on something by Lucas *and* Claremont? For shame, sir.

    My question was regarding Pug aka Milamber from The Riftwar Saga by Feist. Obviously something you should read. 😉

    Hmm. Ok, I’ve only got time for one more then I must bid everyone a fair evening. Argh, so many choices!

    Ok, this one should be easy: In The Last Unicorn, what type of creature is the only other true mythological one in the carnival/sideshow besides, obviously, the Unicorn herself?

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  93. Sumo says:

    Really? After the displeasure you expressed with my question, you lob a softball like that? The harpy, of course.

    Although, it’s entirely appropriate considering some of the “people” we tend to discuss around here.

    When you return, Tarn, maybe you can tell us who Cubby and Fidget were?

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  94. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I’m guessing but, a talking bear?
    That is what is needed. More fiction with talking bears!

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  95. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If I don’t get a chance later, good night, Tarn.

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  96. molly says:

    The answer is: millions. Approx 1.5. million Americans descended from William the Conqueror incl. every President of America.

    http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Famous_Descendants_of_William_the_Conqueror_of_England

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  97. Sumo says:

    Fairly certain I’m not descended from ol’ Billy. But, I’m not American, praise the Light.

    (Sorry, I’m re-reading “The Wheel of Time” series right now)

    The truth is impossible to verify, but family legend claims that I’m descended from Tokugawa Ieyasu.

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  98. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    After looking at that list, you can count me among the 1.5 million.

    Sumo,
    That is not a lightweight ancestor. Do you find it hard to live up their reputations?

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  99. molly says:

    Fancy that, I’m related to a bear! Wickedly Cool! 😀

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  100. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    And I am related to a Furby.
    Let’s go motorcycle riding. By the way, as a Furby, how do you do that?

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  101. molly says:

    Easy! I hop into a molly-body-double suit like this one and push the right buttons..

    [Cill edit: image removed at her request]

    LOL

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  102. Yoda says:

    Let’s go motorcycle riding. By the way, as a Furby, how do you do that?

    Helmet cover entire body it does?

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  103. Yoda says:

    Never far from the Norman invaders threads here are.

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  104. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    You are never going to get a ticket.
    OH MY!

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  105. SFC Ton says:

    The other two sides of the scorched earth route is…..

    Gives you a way to negotiate if you want the divorce to proceed. Fear will have her negotiating in good faith. Otherwise, given the hostility of the courts and how the laws favor women, you, as a man, don’t have any leverage

    Scorched earth reinforces your position as a man not to be fucked with. Tingles galore, and on the other side of divorce, it sets the correct tone when dealing with the next set of bitches.

    You never not get laid in the long term with overt, Pagan Europe style displays of masculinity

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  106. SFC Ton says:

    Given Molly’s diminutive dimensions, why I reckon she is quite easy to place on a motorcycle. Probably fit in the tool bag on the front forks

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  107. Yoda says:

    Tingles galore

    Always come down to tingles it does.
    Deep Throat did say “Follow the Tingles”

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  108. Yoda says:

    Wonder how often with a scorched earth threat,
    followed through with it happens it does

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  109. Yoda says:

    Wonder how well women respond to scorched earth threats they do.
    Perhaps bluffing he is they do think

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  110. Yoda says:

    The war on women over it is?

    Women’s issues took a back seat at Tuesday’s Democratic presidential debate, and attacks against Republicans for waging a supposed “war on women” were kept to a minimum. In fact, the phrase was never uttered — a sharp departure from the tactic employed by Democrats in 2012 and 2014.

    Hillary Clinton was the only candidate even to mention Planned Parenthood or allude to abortion (Democrats rarely use the word since it doesn’t poll well; they say instead, as Clinton did, “a woman’s right to choose”). Debate moderator Anderson Cooper didn’t ask a single question about the devastating videos that appeared to show Planned Parenthood administrators haggling over reimbursement rates for fetal tissue donated to medical science or altering abortion procedures to secure better tissue. There was no question about the recent announcement by the organization that it would no longer collect reimbursements.

    Clinton’s only mention of the organization came when she suggested Republicans are for Big Government when it works for them.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/are-democrats-back-benching-the-war-on-women/article/2574125

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  111. SFC Ton says:

    They always think you are bluffing but it only requires a small amount of doubt to amplify her natural insecurity to work

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  112. Yoda says:


    One major and negative narrative about the justice system is that wealthy and well-connected people get to live by different rules than the rest of us. One can find examples both reinforcing and undermining this, but the prevailing narrative remains.

    If one wanted to find a blatant example of wealthy, privileged people getting their own justice system they can bend to their will, look no further than the anti-campus sexual assault movement. Born of false statistics and exaggerated (or wholly made up) victimhood, the movement has created (and seeks to maintain) a separate court system for those who can afford college.

    What we’re left with is a movement that seeks “easy justice for me, but not for thee.” It’s a slap in the face to the millions of Americans who are at a higher risk for sexual assault and who cannot afford college, many of them poor, minority women.

    This elitist view was confirmed by Connecticut State Sen. Mae Flexer, D-Killingly, who plans to re-introduce an extreme campus sexual assault bill (which had previously failed) in the legislature. Flexer defended the separate justice system against accusations that laws were being created that treated college students differently than the general population.

    “Flexer countered that colleges and universities are privileged environments that demand a higher set of standards,” the Connecticut Mirror reported. “She said state law is integral to protecting students on campus, and encourages colleges and universities to create better policy.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-anti-campus-sexual-assault-movement-is-elitist/article/2574000

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  113. Dragonfly says:

    Wow Spawny that woman! Awesome youtube vid!

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  114. Spawny Get says:

    Dragon, oh yeah. A kick-arse woman. Loved the message.

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  115. Cill says:

    There are no posts scheduled. I’ll work on one for Friday 21:01 a.m. if no-one else is.

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    Hey Cill, been a while…how you going?

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  117. Yoda says:

    Cill,

    OK this would be

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  118. Cill says:

    Busy as an old garden gate 😉

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  119. Yoda says:

    Write about goats he will

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  120. Spawny Get says:

    Now, now Yoda. No need to be a billy bully about it.

    I’m glad he’s back and no butts about it.

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  121. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, I hear you’ve been trapping in an urban environment. No girlies involved.

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  122. Spawny Get says:

    I’m guessing that it’s one of the downsides of your height. Nobody stops a 6’5″ guy in a hurry to a meeting (looking determined and pushed for time) and risks pointing him towards a mirror

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  123. Cill says:

    Hmm. I’ve switched to a proxy server because Chrome crashed spawnyspace and won’t re-open it. Anyone else having the same problem?

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  124. Cill says:

    Well I guess if you are having the same problem you won’t be able to reply..

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  125. Cill says:

    It opens ok in Ms Edge and palemoon.

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  126. Cill says:

    Back to Chrome at last.
    Now what were you blokes harping on about..
    Goats?

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  127. Spawny Get says:

    I’m using Iron (v 45.0.2400.0), all okay here

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  128. Spawny Get says:

    First rule of goat-shagger club…don’t mention goat-shagger club

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  129. Cill says:

    Although I vehemently and vigorously refute the goat allegations, I had to give 8:49 pm a begrudging Like.

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  130. Sumo says:

    As far as I know, KiwiLand is famous for it’s enormous sheep population, not goats.

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  131. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I am glad that Sargon of Akkad can find Laci Green funny. Is there something wrong with me because I can’t?

    Yoda,
    “The war on women is over?”
    I don’t think they’ll use that one again. Invite someone to spend a day in family court and that notion is out the window. In spite of the contempt that society holds for men, it may be more easily argued that ther is a war on men.

    Cill,
    What did theose two guys do to Molly?

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  132. Spawny Get says:

    Perhaps Sargon is blessed with the gift of deafness? Blessed in the context of that harpy’s screeching.

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  133. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic. COTWA dug up something different, a false accusation from a gay guy against a fraternity.
    http://www.cotwa.info/2015/10/another-fraternity-is-falsely-accused.html

    If I were involved with a fraternity, I would be urging that there would be no more guests allowed and, certainly, no more parties.

    If you didn’t read the link, please do so. This one is outrageous and the police got to the bottom of it in very little time.

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  134. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Perhaps Sargon finds her logical inconsistancies to be funny. That could be an acquired taste. For myself, she didn’t get so much as a chuckle.
    Laci Green is NOT funny.

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  135. Spawny Get says:

    The last video I watched featuring Rebecca Twatson, just after the charity jape about men calling her a cunt, or becoming manginas…I ended up just feeling pity for her. What a hideous, twisted creature.

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  136. Spawny Get says:

    Not had enough cuntitude?

    I guess that triggering elevatorgate wasn’t a ticket to fun, happiness and PFUDOR.

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  137. Spawny Get says:

    There’s a ten hour version too..be grateful for Spawny’s benevolence…or else

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  138. Cill says:

    What is that thing, a sheep with a knife through its heart? If it’s worse than the two fembots, I don’t wanna know.

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  139. Tarnished says:

    When I introduced Flufflepuff, I didn’t think it would create a monster. I apologize to everyone.

    Except Spawny, for obvious reasons. 😉

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  140. Spawny Get says:

    You missed Tarn’s kind introduction to Pink Fluffy Unicorns Dancing On Rainbows…PFUDOR.
    Brony fan fiction My little pony…

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  141. Spawny Get says:

    This is what happens when you take time off for bad behaviour…perpetrate bad behaviour that is

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  142. Tarnished says:

    Sumo,

    Are they from Enchanter? It’s a novel on my reading list. Never would have even heard of it if I didn’t know about the Zork games from the early 1980’s…

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  143. Spawny Get says:

    Preferred these

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  144. Tarnished says:

    And now everyone knows more about kool-aid colored talking ponies than they ever wanted to.
    My work here is done.

    Just be glad I didn’t start putting links to the really terrible things me and my friends find hilarious. Fuzzie would never go online again…

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  145. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can’t understand Rebecca Watson’s motives. Women are free to hafe men while men love their Mommies. That has to be all there is to feminism. Pure, unadulderated, unreasoning hate of white, Christian, straight men.
    I did see a recent video of Rebecca Watson in which she attempted to defend Planned Parenthood in the wake of released videos. It was all knee jerk defense of feminist icons. She should have no credibility with anyone.

    There is a ten hour version of this too. I may need it after all this exposure to Laci Green and Rebecca Watson.

    I have to hand it to Russia. I think they don’t want to see their birth rates fll throught the floor. Feminism seems to have that effect.

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  146. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I like this one much more than Llamas with Hats. They’re a little ttoo homocidal for my taste.

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  147. Tarnished says:

    They’re a little too homocidal for my taste.
    I promise to never post anything about the brony fics of Rainbow Factory or Pinkys Cupcakes, then. Only cute, cuddly, non-murderous stuff for the bear!

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  148. Sumo says:

    Are they from Enchanter? It’s a novel on my reading list. Never would have even heard of it if I didn’t know about the Zork games from the early 1980’s…

    Impressive. Most impressive. If you want my advice (or even if you don’t) move that book to the top of your reading list. Not only is it a good read, it bloody well hilarious in some places.

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  149. Tarnished says:

    Thank you, mighty Sumo! I’ll do so.

    Hmm. If you want a last question, how about this:

    What trilogy are Detective Elijah Baley and R. Daneel Olivaw from? Going sci-fi now…

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  150. Tarnished says:

    I admit to feeling like a cheat on your last question, given that it was my video game knowledge rather than literary that gave me the answer… :/

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  151. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Malamute puppies!!!!
    I love them!

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  152. Sumo says:

    Sorry, my sci-fi knowledge is limited to TV & movies. How about Dell Brandstone’s nickname? You know that one?

    Also, I don’t think that was cheating; the book is based off of the video game mythos, after all.

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  153. Spawny Get says:

    Caves of steel and The naked sun. Asimov has never been a guaranteed good read to me, but they were both very good.

    Louis Wu and Speaker-to-animals?

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  154. Yoda says:

    Kind of like this the above would be.

    http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/desert-bus-the-very-worst-video-game-ever-created

    The drive from Tucson, Arizona, to Las Vegas, Nevada, takes approximately eight hours when travelling in a vehicle whose top speed is forty-five miles per hour. In Desert Bus, an unreleased video game from 1995 conceived by the American illusionists and entertainers Penn Jillette and Teller, players must complete that journey in real time. Finishing a single leg of the trip requires considerable stamina and concentration in the face of arch boredom: the vehicle constantly lists to the right, so players cannot take their hands off the virtual wheel; swerving from the road will cause the bus’s engine to stall, forcing the player to be towed back to the beginning. The game cannot be paused. The bus carries no virtual passengers to add human interest, and there is no traffic to negotiate. The only scenery is the odd sand-pocked rock or road sign. Players earn a single point for each eight-hour trip completed between the two cities, making a Desert Bus high score perhaps the most costly in gaming.

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  155. Spawny Get says:

    I enjoyed the Takeshi Kovacs books. Altered Carbon being the first.

    Also by Richard Morgan, perhaps fitting more into the new thread; A land fit for heroes series. ‘The steel remains’ ends extremely interestingly. I’m not usually a fantasy fan, but…

    Ringil, the hero of the bloody slaughter at Gallows Gap is a legend to all who don’t know him and a twisted degenerate to those that do. A veteran of the wars against the lizards he makes a living from telling credulous travellers of his exploits. Until one day he is pulled away from his life and into the depths of the Empire’s slave trade. Where he will discover a secret infinitely more frightening than the trade in lives.

    Archeth – pragmatist, cynic and engineer, the last of her race – is called from her work at the whim of the most powerful man in the Empire and sent to its farthest reaches to investigate a demonic incursion against the Empire’s borders.

    Egar Dragonbane, steppe-nomad, one-time fighter for the Empire finds himself entangled in a small-town battle between common sense and religious fervour. But out in the wider world there is something on the move far more alien than any of his tribe’s petty gods.

    Anti-social, anti-heroic, and decidedly irritated, all three of them are about to be sent unwillingly forth into a vicious, vigorous and thoroughly unsuspecting fantasy world. Called upon by an Empire that owes them everything and gave them nothing.

    Richard Morgan brings his trademark visceral writing style, turbo-driven plotting and thought provoking characterisation to the fantasy genre and produces a landmark work with his first foray.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002U94SHA

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