Artificial Love — Part I — Needs and Objections


Over at Dalrock’s, the age old question of artificial love came up again.  It would appear that developers are getting closer.  As such, this subject should be explored more fully.

Why might there be a market for artificial love?  It starts with the fact that men are naturally horny.  Especially when they are young.   And they really want relief from this.  There are natural means (i.e. real women) and artificial means (pr0n, self-service).  Of course, the natural method is typically most satisfying (at least during the act).  But it is not always available to men, or if it is, the price might be too high (in money and otherwise).  So that leaves artificial means, which can be inexpensive, yet are not totally satisfying.  Men would like for the artificial means to improve, and do so for a reasonable cost.  That is where virtual reality and sexbot comes in.  They are approaching a point of being able to deliver.

So how did it come to this?  Where men long for what are essentially artificial women.  There are lots of aspects to how the world got here, but the short answer a combination of unleashed hypergamy, combined with modern women putting all of their eggs in the sexual basket.  It used to be that women were prodded by the Patriarchal System to marry a young promising guy about equal in expected average lifetime status.  This meant that there was essentially a gal for every guy, and the better the guy, the better the gal that he could win.  This is not true anymore.  Women also at one time possessed a multitude of attributes/skills that were attractive to men, examples being pleasurable company, domestic skills, mothering skills, etc.  In modern times, women have found that they can do just fine when placing all of their bets on their sexuality.  Lots of men want to have sex, and women have what they want, so modern women leverage this to the max.  Invariably they overplay this card, to the detriment of both man and woman. Furthermore, in the long run, this approach often works poorly; but that is a topic for another discussion.

This all results in the manosphere cliche of the 80-20 rule; that is, that 80% of the women are having sex with 20% of the men.  It is not known if the numbers are exactly correct, but from lots of anecdotal evidence they would seem to be in the ballpark numbers.  This leaves lots of men who really want sex, without sex.  Thus the desire for better value substitutes.

Now onto the objections to artificial love.  First and foremost from the modern woman’s perspective is that it chips away at their sex provider monopoly, or rather, cartel.  But such economic arrangements are normally considered to be bad, for the primary reason that they are unfair.  That is, one side exploits the other.  But in this case, since women have the halo effect, and are considered to be naturally virtuous, the true situation is rarely mentioned.  This is the real objection to artificial love, but speaking such is verboten.

Instead, other objections must be put forth.  Examples such as

  • Objectifying women.  Of course, women really do want to be objectified, but only by men that she deems worthy.  In any case, this is irrelevant to the artificial love discussion.
  • There is no emotional connection, so therefore it is not real, sanctified, legitimate, whatever.
  • Only worthless men would do it.  Since women are hypergamous, and because of such only want to love the top men; naturally enough they would think this way.  Guys are not really hypergamous, and good enough is good enough.
  • It is disgusting.  You decide.

Commenters can add to the list if so desired.  So it would seem that there is a market, and the products are maturing into the early adopter phase.  So what is next?

Stay tuned for further installments in this series.

And of course, NAWALT applies.

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91 comments on “Artificial Love — Part I — Needs and Objections
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Thereis a scene where James Bond visits Q and is told about the recent innovation of exploding teddy bears. “Let’s get them in the stores inh time for Christmas!” is James Bond’s retort. I think this has been used in more than one film.
    As a bachelor, I have had to jump through a lot of hoops to get a date. It’s not so much that the product is commercially viable, it’s that it will change the psychology of the SMP>

    Then there are the bottom eighty percent of men whjo will go through life alone.

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  2. Yoda says:

    I have had to jump through a lot of hoops to get a date

    The circus rewards you in this manner they do?

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    If it were up to the circus, all my neds and desires would be met. Happy bears are more cooperative.
    What I can’t understand is why the girls want their boys so grumpy?

    On the other thread, Spawny Get said that he had a new toy that he hadn’t had time to play with yet.
    Cill fires bak, “Does it have a page boy haircut?”
    I hereby nominate that Charlotte Proudman be forever honored with being the image of a sexbot prototype.

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  4. Yoda says:

    Wonder if Sith need sexbots they do

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  5. Cill says:

    I second you, Fuzzy. May the image of the Proudman effigy-doll be the permanent icon of the sexbot. May an emoticon be made to this end.

    (hang on, we don’t want to put a damper on sexbot sales, do we? The slightest reminder of her will give the men Cooper’s Droop.)

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  6. Sumo says:

    It is disgusting. You decide.

    Well, I dunno about that….is it really any more “disgusting” than a chick shoving a piece of plastic into her yoohoo?

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I would think that being among the Dark Lords of the Sith would place someone well above the top twenty percent. So, no.
    On the previous thread, Mrs. Yoda offered to make a sandwich for Darth Maul. May I suggest that it include lots of peppers and spices? He looks as if he would not be satisfied unless steam was coming out his ears.

    Cill,
    With Charlotte, it is not her visage that’s unpleaqsant, it’s her demeanor.

    Even Judgybitch wrote a post aon this subject.

    http://judgybitch.com/2015/09/17/sexbots-increase-the-market-value-of-some-women-bring-em-on/

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  8. Yoda says:

    With Charlotte, it is not her visage that’s unpleaqsant, it’s her demeanor.

    More unpleasant than Darth Maul she is?

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  9. SFC Ton says:

    Love is a social construct

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    With Darth Maul, you can enter into direct combat with him and there are no qualms. I would like to take Charlotte, hold her up by her ankles,and shake her until she throws up.
    I don’t think this tactic would be socially approved.

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  11. Cill says:

    emotional superiority is a social construct 😄

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  12. Cill says:

    nurturing and care are social constructs.
    So are tits!
    Mwahahahahaha!

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  13. Yoda says:

    Love is a social construct

    Then create and project unto a sexbot one can?

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  14. Yoda says:

    If blank slate people are,
    then all a social construct it is?

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  15. Cill says:

    “Then create and project unto a sexbot one can?”
    Yep. And nurturing and care. And tits.
    I draw the line at emotional superiority, though.

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  16. Cill says:

    Of all claims to gender superiority that women make, the most nonsensical is the claim to emotional superiority. In order to make the comparison she must presume to know how I experience my emotions. Only a numbskull could make such a claim.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    We are starting yo get more than a little silly. Maybe a bear video displaying good maternal behavior?

    How do they know they belong to each other?
    Smart bears.

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  18. Cill says:

    Fuzzy the big bear just wanted to eat the small one. Hence the groan of hunger. 😄

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    That was painful to read. THERE ARE NO FENINIST BEARS!
    I have heard of mothers rejecting their young.

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    NAEALT

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  21. Cill says:

    I like the one of the old bloke and the elephant as well:

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I hope that Molly sees thi!

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  23. Cill says:

    12 bar blues. Note how the elephant crosses his hind legs at one stage

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This is the best video I have found discusing “The Male Gaze”. Feminists are just beyond crazy. They want to drive a wedge between men and women to the point where we won’t talk to each other.

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  25. blurkel says:

    Fuzzie:

    What I can’t understand is why the girls want their boys so grumpy?

    It’s similar to the martial arts principle of keeping your opponent off-balance. She then has the control, which is what all women demand. AWALT!

    Feminists are just beyond crazy. They want to drive a wedge between men and women to the point where we won’t talk to each other.

    One doesn’t talk to the hired help except to give orders!

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  26. blurkel says:

    re: the Fiamengo File: if women’s cycles synchronize when in close contact over time, one has to ask if their ticking clocks will as well. The mechanical resonance of synch’d ticks could destroy the world! It would serve women such as those discussed in the flick right!

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    El Fuzz,
    Grumpy males give her some drama and something whine about to her frenemies.

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  28. SFC Ton says:

    A grumpy man equals she is winning. …. some how. I reckon women do not like most men most especially who ever married her. Inferiority complex? She knows she isn’t worth much so despises the fact she married someone low value enough to marry her? It’s a default hostile situation. High value man doesn’t need to marry….he married…. he is low value?

    They are convoluted not complex

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  29. I am not against sex bots but I guess I don’t see how plastic is a substitute for the real thing in either case. The way I see it there’s a lot more to sex than the physical act. It’s a merger of souls.

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  30. SFC Ton says:

    That’s because you are a woman and#2) get to deal with men.

    Most women are miserable bitches to most men most of the time and weak men (most men) put up with it for some small chance at sex, to keep what little bit of his money he gets to spend on himself etc. Sex is that big of a deal.

    Also robolust and porn etc dont remove the top 20% of the men from the market but the fall back guys in the middle of the pack. Women hate when their security is threaten

    Not sure how many dudes will go for the robolove thing but I am also not sure how many more men need to drop out before women suffer enough to notice they as a collective have fucked up. What would another 3% drop in beta provider /back up plan men do to women’s smp /mmp options and behaviour?

    Some sort of netflix type deal for robolovers is probably a bigger threat then men buying a model and sticking with it. A new sexbot every 5-7 days could be a big deal to men who see less then 3 dates a year let alone see every 10th date are 4 year

    I have a friend who gets about every 100th date he asks for. Another about every 30th. They already do not have much of an incentive to keep getting shot down. The one guy gets “to short” a few more times……

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    “It’s a merger of souls.”

    Wait…women claim to have souls? *ebul patriarchal laughter*

    More seriously, you have just quoted one of the lines used to sucker men into marriage. The belief that women and men get the same thing, bring the same thing, to marriage. And have the same commitment to it as blue pill he does. It ignores the ability of women to (as I have seen it) switch off the love, turn on the hatred, when she feels that the deal is no longer big enough, good enough…for her. At core, women have extremely cold hearts regarding men.

    I still think that most women just do not like men…they just do not.

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    You’re a romantic. I love you for it.
    What are we going to do about all these meanies who want to screw it up for ones like you?

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  33. SFC Ton says:

    That’s close Spawny
    They
    Dislike the kind of man they can pull. A woman with the beta is pissy she is not of high enough value to pull better & she dislikes the fact she is stuck with a man who settled for her

    Even in their dislike etc it’s all about her

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  34. Tarnished says:

    When the Oculus Rift comes out in 2016, it will have an overall cost of $1500. This includes the Rift + a computer strong enough to run it…if people already own a top of the line setup, obviously it is quite a bit cheaper.

    Prostate massagers, tenga eggs, masturbatory sleeves, etc range from $10 for one-time use items to $200 for deluxe reusable items with all the bells and whistles.

    One can siphon porn and erotic stories into nearly any electronic device with a screen for “free”, and all you need is WiFi, which is just about anywhere nowadays.

    Playboy, Hustler, and other sexy mags are still in production and can be delivered to your door or purchased at sex-shops/some gas stations for a whopping $5 or so.

    Real Dolls by Abyss Creations have been available for decades at this point. They feature incredibly realistic looking dolls of both the male and female variety, which weigh roughly 120 lbs each, and can either be customized or one can pick from a multitude of faces, body types, hairstyles, and of course genitalia. They are made to feel as real as possible, and have detachable cavities that are easily cleaned and will last for years with proper care. They cost approx $5-7000, though major customization will increase this number.

    The fact is, if we eventually have sexbots, they will really just be the next logical step in sex toy history. I’m not worried about much of the supposed “fallout” that the current detractors say will occur. The only thing I’d want to know is if these bots are going to have an actual AI once we reach that singularity, or if they are simply going to be well programed, albeit pretty, machines. That is the only ethical issue I’d see, which is still moot at this time. Right now, a sexbot would still just be a very cool, very expensive toy.

    My love of such books and shows as A.I., I, Robot, Bicentennial Man, Alex and Ada, and Chobits have made me question the ethics of creating a legitimate artificial intelligence, especially regarding how we would treat beings with it, and what our responsibilities to them would be, if any.

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    The other thing is that lefties (thus women) demand equality (if they cannot get supremacy) and so if she isn’t happy (and just how many happy women are there? they appear largely to be misery seeking, self sabotaging machines) well…she needs to make sure that anyone around her isn’t happy either. Especially men…the bastards. A hubby is uniquely vulnerable to her misery inducing efforts. Particularly a blue pill guy who is wired to see her misery as something that he must solve for her.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    “bells and whistles”? on a wank gadget? Man, that’s living the high life…

    1) make sure that the walls are sound proofed and the windows are shut.

    2) puts the hazards of shagging women who are screamers into perspective

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    I for one welcome our coming sex-bot AI overlords.

    Will it feel so different being screwed by them as by the current set of insane global leaders (reptilian and/or otherwise)?

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  38. Tarnished says:

    Nah. We’ll all just be kept in zoos anyway…
    http://higherperspectives.com/people-zoo/

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  39. Liz says:

    “Dislike the kind of man they can pull. A woman with the beta is pissy she is not of high enough value to pull better & she dislikes the fact she is stuck with a man who settled for her

    Even in their dislike etc it’s all about her”

    Ouch. That is so fucking true (but I wouldn’t say a ‘beta’, I don’t categorize men that way…i’d say a man they BELIEVE to be beneath them). This is why they get fat, too, and then have even more contempt for their spouses…”This is all he can pull, a fat whale…look at me.”
    Weird stuff, but it seems to be true.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    If I had my way there’d already be many (sterilised) homo bonobus semi-demi-sapiens types in zoos. TOWIE / Jersey Shore types.

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think that Chris Rock summed it up in one of his routines.
    “You weren’t her first choice.”
    It is odd how the effect is more profound on women. But, I never knew, until Liz’s last comment, that they would take it that far by self sabotaging.

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  42. I know you guys are right and I do see miserable marriages where good guys are treated horribly more often than not. I guess I don’t get Those women. I like men and always have. I truly enjoy male company. Maybe I am a weirdo!

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  43. Yoda says:

    I like men and always have. I truly enjoy male company. Maybe I am a weirdo!

    Perhaps a space alien you are.
    Examine you I could in order to determine.
    Know these things I do.
    Do this for a sammich I would

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  44. Yoda says:

    A grumpy man equals she is winning. …. some how

    A pyrrhic victory it is.
    But see this not they can.
    Odd this would be

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  45. Yoda says:

    gender superiority that women make, the most nonsensical is the claim to emotional superiority

    The “more is better” rule invoke they do.
    “Quantity over quality”

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  46. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    It’s not that you are a weirdo, it’s that there is something wrong with all the man haters. Why they are that way, I don’t know. I am glad that you are not that way.
    Do you think that they could be using man hating as some form of crutch?

    Cill mentioned upthread about the need for a Charlotte Proudman emoticon. That shouldn’t be too hard. Just put a page boy haircut on a smiley face. Voila!

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  47. Yoda says:

    Grumpy males give her some drama and something whine about to her frenemies.

    Her life complete it will be.
    Except for cat ownership it is.

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  48. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    One of the reasons I think such a big stink is being made is that the primary market for sexbots is the betabucks chump. Especially the IT geeks. Yeah, the sex, but also… ROBOT. Make the thing’s behavior open source, and nerdgasms in Nerdvana will commence in 3, 2…

    I guaran-damn-tee you that thing will be able to make a tasty sandwich and clean the tub inside a month of the source code being released.

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  49. Liz says:

    I remember when virtual reality was supposed to bring us the long distance and/or artificial sexual experience. What happened to that? Seems like the tech for that is advanced enough to make it happen (unlike the sexbot, which is a ways away yet).

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  50. Further I think far too many people make the mistake of taking their inner crap out on their partner. It takes self discipline to consciously choose not to but it is possible.

    Even though I have always liked men, I also find myself being far more aware of men’s feelings since finding the manosphere.

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  51. Liz says:

    I think, Bloom, women are taught that “he should love you for who you are”. I’m not sure what that is supposed to mean exactly. If I were sitting on the couch refusing to move and didn’t value myself, I’m sure Mike would start to think less of me and be less attracted to me.

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  52. Liz says:

    Not that I’m not lazy….
    but the lazy shit is under control, and I have other things that compensate. 😛

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  53. I don’t get the man haters Fuzzie. Except maybe they bought the line that men are their enemy and are acting accordingly? I wrote a post about that, how looking at life thru that lens can create that reality. If you believe yourself oppressed, you see oppression everywhere.

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  54. True Liz, a lot of women let it slide once in a relationship. Or even if they keep it together physically they turn harpy and miserable. Maybe sex bots are the better way to go! :/

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  55. Liz says:

    “I hereby nominate that Charlotte Proudman be forever honored with being the image of a sexbot prototype.”

    I must assume this is an ass-fuck only prototype?

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  56. Yoda says:

    Except maybe they bought the line that men are their enemy and are acting accordingly?

    So why marry them they do?

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  57. Liz says:

    I think the Proudmoticon could be a sort of ‘award’.
    Similar to a Darwin award. Equally stupid but less lethal, more pungent.
    The internet could really use one of those.

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  58. That’s a good question Yoda. I am not sure…. The book “the Mastery of Love” goes into that quite a bit, how the big mistake many couples make is to start to power struggle w each other and it goes downhill from there… Familiarity breeds contempt, or something? I dunno…

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  59. Spawny Get says:

    Remember the row over the fact that Jeremy Corblimy didn’t appoint a wymmynz to any of the top jobs in the Shadow Special Cabinet?

    No? Who cares.

    A happy tale over the row over the row
    Jess vs the Abbopotamus

    Voila l’Abbopotamus in her natural pose…gob wide open

    Female labour MP told alleged racist, definite hypocrite* Diane Abbotopomus…well, read it for yourself

    Labour MP Jess Phillips told Diane Abbott to “fuck off” during a heated row about a lack of women in the top shadow cabinet jobs, The Huffington Post UK can reveal.

    The Birmingham Yardley MP clashed with Ms Abbott at a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) on Monday, after it emerged the four top jobs in Mr Corbyn’s team had gone to men.

    As well as Mr Corbyn as leader, Andy Burnham is Shadow Home Secretary, Hilary Benn in Shadow Foreign Secretary and John McDonnell is Shadow Chancellor.

    Ms Abbott accused Ms Phillips of asking a “sanctimonious” question, and told her “you’re not the only feminist in the PLP.”

    Mr Corbyn looked on in silence as the two MPs argued.

    Talking to The Huffington Post UK, Ms Phillips, who despite being elected in May has already earned a reputation for being one of the most outspoken MPs, said: “I roundly told her to fuck off.”

    When asked what Ms Abbott did after that suggestion, Ms Phillips replied: “She fucked off.”

    She added: “People said to me they had always wanted to say that to her, and I don’t know why they don’t as the opportunity presents itself every other minute.”

    “I said: ‘Who the fuck do you think you are?’”

    Seems that they’re not all bad in the Laba Party. We need more of this. Perhaps Trump can learn from this?

    *Loves state schools, but not for her son.

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  60. Yoda says:

    “You weren’t her first choice.”

    So all women alpha widows they are?

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  61. blurkel says:

    The Book of Responses

    @ Bloom

    Maybe I am a weirdo!

    If so, figure out how to bottle it so we men can apply it to our women! You’ll retire wealthy!

    @ Liz

    women are taught that “he should love you for who you are”

    Yet even before the wedding she’s busy changing him into something different. When does “she love him for who he is”? I suspect that women who actually do this have the good and nurturing relationships.

    @ Bloom

    Maybe sex bots are the better way to go!

    Since you, Liz, and Tarn already have relationships, it’s the only way left to go! 😀

    @Yoda

    So why marry them they do?

    Money, Master Yoda – the ONLY force that women have with no restraints. Recall the recent post which included how much debt women rack up? They can only do this because HE Will Pay!

    @ Bloom

    The book “the Mastery of Love” goes into that quite a bit, how the big mistake many couples make is to start to power struggle w each other and it goes downhill from there…

    Recall the tired old adage of “Two can live as one”? This is the economic basis of the lie which is marriage. Yet when the bills come in, he’s the one who tends to lose out more than she does. He resents that she’s usually the one controlling the money (and thus him), and the war over relatively scarce resources is on. The hurts and animosities grow, and what started out unicorns and rainbows becomes The Battle of Peleliu.

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  62. blurkel says:

    This comment from the judgybitch article ( http://judgybitch.com/2015/09/17/sexbots-increase-the-market-value-of-some-women-bring-em-on/ ) cuts it all down to the bare essentials:

    Tom Simunovic • an hour ago

    Foundation of gender relationships is expressed by this formula: C – P = E
    (Women consume [C] more than produce [P] and the difference is covered by exploitation of men [E].)
    TS

    http://judgybitch.com/2015/09/17/sexbots-increase-the-market-value-of-some-women-bring-em-on/#comment-2260596296

    BRILLIANT! [Bracketed additions mine. Added for clarity.]

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  63. Liz says:

    From Pimpin’
    Chapter 8 “Bangin’ Robotic Bitches!”

    Tyrone: “Your robot ho will tell you anything you want to hear. Your human ho will tell you anything she wants you to hear.”

    “Your human ho flops around in sweatpants and nurse shoes because “it’s comfortable.” Your robot ho struts around in leather boots and spandex askin’, “Are you comfortable?”

    “You come home late and drunk, your human ho gives you at least three tight questions and looks for holes in your story. You come home late and drunk and your robot ho gives you three tight holes and doesn’t even ask for your story!”

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  64. Spawny Get says:

    Heard of BoHo chique, so RoHo?

    I must insist on receiving a first edition of Pimpin’

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  65. BuenaVista says:

    “Where men long for what are essentially artificial women.”

    Actually, men just long for women. When we meet one, we call them ‘unicorns’ for a reason: This must be a dream.

    The female sex we have at the moment are clearly pod people, not women. Humanity would have died 5000 years ago if the current feminine imperatives, enforced by the guys with the guns, had been dominant 5200 years ago.

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  66. BuenaVista says:

    “Love is a social construct.”

    Well, yeah. But since 10% of the population enjoys enduring love, in some fashion, I suppose that makes love a pathology.

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  67. BuenaVista says:

    “This leaves lots of men who really want sex, without sex.”

    Well, this manosphere truism always grates. Seriously, like 80% of the women are attractive to 20% of the men. I don’t think so.

    In regard to a solution: As the barn painter I was recently hanging out with enjoys saying, “I go for the fat chicks. They’re so appreciative.”

    Good news for the so-called 80% of loveless men: there are A LOT of fat chicks out there just waiting to be appreciative. You’ll find them at Walmart at 3 pm on a Saturday.

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  68. BuenaVista says:

    “She knows she isn’t worth much so despises the fact she married someone low value enough to marry her?”

    I don’t know much about the sociology and psychology of this, but I do know that the more I state my unwillingness to marry, the crazier the women become. Including, alas, the ones who are married. Logic? Nah, this is a Sinatra song.

    I had never considered, Ton, the idea that women loathe their husbands and hence seek men who refuse to be husbands. (Before they demand they become husbands.) (Just fuck me now, I’m already dead.)

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  69. BuenaVista says:

    Bloom, reprising her role as Mrs. Walton:

    “I am not against sex bots but I guess I don’t see how plastic is a substitute for the real thing in either case.”

    Dear,

    We live in a society in which *any* sexual encounter may destroy or utterly derail any man’s life. That is not true for women. In your efforts to construct a new married life, it might be useful to occasionally note this fact. You’ll attract a higher class of man if you do.

    In regard to plastic vs. pussy, it’s sort of the inverse of Orson Welles’ comment: “We will sell no wine before its time.”

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  70. BuenaVista says:

    Ton: “What would another 3% drop in beta provider /back up plan men do to women’s smp /mmp options and behaviour?”

    It takes a 7% imbalance in buy-sell activity to collapse the New York SE. I mean, at 7% they shut it down.

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  71. I do get that BV. And it’s true, these days a woman can flaunt her slut status and people cheer. A guy? He gets tarred and feathered, labeled a predator. I get it.

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  72. You would think feminists would embrace sex bots. Now those pesky horn dog men can leave them be. And it’s not like a sex bot is a “victim” as they claim prostitutes are. I really don’t see the difference between sluts and goes except goes don’t give it up for free?

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  73. Yoda says:

    I think far too many people make the mistake of taking their inner crap out on their partner.

    Introspection good it would be.
    But encouraged it is not.
    Makes the world worse this does.

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  74. Yoda says:

    these days a woman can flaunt her slut status and people cheer.

    Why this they do?
    Empowering it supposed is?
    But if easy to do it is,
    how empowering would it be?

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  75. Yoda says:

    ow those pesky horn dog men can leave them be.

    Perhaps in the future all male students required to buy powerful VR system they will.
    Though software female characters probably require vitual consent forms they will.

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  76. Yoda says:

    Familiarity breeds contempt

    Being entitled and ungrateful builds contempt it does.
    Describes many modern women this would

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  77. Tarnished says:

    So all women alpha widows they are?
    Statistically possible this is not.

    Familiarity breeds contempt.
    Strange and illogical this is. Familiarity with a lover breeds knowledge of safety, being cherished, and cared about it does. Bad this is?

    Why this they do?
    Puts then on same level as men they believe. Think all/most men bed hopping every night with ease they are. Understand that this is not so they do not. Apex fallacy this is, but know/accept this they don’t.

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  78. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “So, all women alpha widows they re?”
    Considering that girls start acquiring boyfriends in junior higgh school and don’t get married till close to thirty, I’d say that this is a big factor. To compond this, our Seadiy Eddy marriage candidate is going to be compared to the best in all her boyfriends while he has less experience with the opposite sex.

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  79. Yoda says:

    Bear and Unicorn disagree they do

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  80. SFC Ton says:

    A key aspect of the female operating system is insecurity

    She off sets that by the status of the she man locks down

    Part of what drives her insecurity is knowing she doesn’t offer much.

    Any man who settles for her isn’t all that high status or she could do better

    Around and around and around the hamster/ hypergamy goes. Or so my reckoning goes

    Sex and deception are the only weapons women have. Anything that illuminates the deception or reduces the value of sex with women is a dagger in the dark to women. Not simply feminists but the whole feminine imperative

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  81. SFC Ton says:

    A woman doesn’t have to have an apex alpha to be an alpha widow. She only has to have had a guy more alpha then her current. So yes it is likely most women are alpha widows

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  82. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    You just reminded me that Tarn would have an altogether difrent point of view on this.

    Off topic. Dalrock has a new post up today. For those of us hoping the two party system might yield a little relief from feminism, “fugggetaboutit!”

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/were-the-real-feminists/

    Carly Fiorina is very bright but, she is still going to pander to feminists. They all will.

    Here is something else from Captain Capitalism. He is having serious doubts about sources of economic information. Without good info, it’s garbage in–> garbage out.

    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2015/09/why-i-no-longer-trust-academic-studies.html

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  83. Tarnished says:

    Bear and Unicorn disagree they do.

    Do we?

    Fuzzie said: “Considering that girls start acquiring boyfriends in junior high school and don’t get married till close to thirty, I’d say that this is a big factor.”

    He is not incorrect. Many girls…and obviously the guys they are dating during said times…do this. Though junior high (5th-8th grade) is on the early side in my own observations, it is certainly true by high school (9th-12th grade). Just because our ursine companion didn’t specifically state Not All Girls, doesn’t mean he was saying All Girls. 😉

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  84. Tarnished says:

    I had a whopping 2 “boyfriends” in high school after 9th grade, both of which lasted a total of 7-10 days because they truly were jackasses. It became clear very early on that they were only really interested in sex, and assumed that because I was a nerdy/quiet female and they were in the popular crowd I’d be likely to spread my legs to keep in their good favor and, I don’t know, be invited to crappy parties or something.

    As I knew I was not in a mentally/emotionally mature enough place to share sex with anyone at that time, I broke up with them quickly. Both of them were fairly shocked by the revelation that not all females give a shit about high school popularity contests, or are just going to put out willy-nilly to get a glimpse of the “spotlight”. 😂

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  85. Tarnished says:

    To compound this, our Steady Eddy marriage candidate is going to be compared to the best in all her boyfriends while he has less experience with the opposite sex.

    Then it would seem that such females are not mature enough for marriage, or any sort of even semi-committed LTR. If you are actively choosing to be in a relationship with someone, it stands to reason that this is due to them having traits that already set them apart as better…or at least preferable…over others. A marriage/committed relationship *should* essentially be a statement of “I’m willing to give up looking for another partner, because I think you are the best for me.” Hence, the majority of comparisons, if any are made, should be found in favor of the current partner. Any traits that are not can be discussed and if possible the partner could learn to replicate them and vice versa.

    Disclaimer: Yes, it’s obvious this is not what it means anymore. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s what it used to mean, or that it should continue to mean.

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    To clarify, when I said that girls in junior high had boyfriends, I didn’t mean that they were having sex with them.

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  87. Tarnished says:

    Thought not, Fuzzie. 😉

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  88. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    While I don’t know what is in the line up, it seems that we are about due for another post and a new subject. So, this may be the tail end of this thread.
    About sexbots, It’s not that I like them per se, It’s that something has to break up the feminine sexual cartel. Things do have to get back to girls have something boys like and boys have something girls like.

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  89. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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