Connecting Educated Women with Less Educated Men


Recently this post was brought to my attention.  Where might these women find these men the question is ask.  But before we go there, let us consider the background to the situation.  Much of this comes out in the comments on the site,

The basic problem of the male-female ratio of college undergraduates tending towards 40-60.  What this has to mean is that one third of all graduating women are going to have to marry a man without a four year degree, if they marry a man at all.

Unless it is Science or Math, the over-educated woman has mostly been schooled to be upset at most all aspects of Life under the Patriarchy.

The women could start by realizing that higher levels of education have no correlation to higher levels of intelligence.

Being educated does not improve the SMV of a woman, in fact as has been alluded to it is more likely to make her the kind of entitled, demanding, and unfeminine “feminist’ type that is a turnoff to any self respecting masculine man.

Over-educated women: you have done this to yourself.

Let’s not lose track of the fact that we are really not discussing intelligence, here: What we are really discussing is educationally-conferred social status, which is not at all the same. While I know some really smart, really sharp folks with impressive educational attainments, the sad fact remains that there are also a lot of really stupid people that have those same pieces of paper.

Women have traditionally married up, that is they have married a man with more status, education, money etc. than herself.  In the days of the Patriarchy, this happened a bit more naturally as women’s career and education prospects were more constrained.  But, perhaps the social convention should change, and women not marry up.  This could conceivably solve the problems, except for the fact that it really was not a social convention that caused women to marry up, it was hypergamy.  Women really, really desire to marry up, social convention or not.

Education is used as a marker for status.  Actually it is considered to be a very important marker.  How will these women find guys that they can happily marry?  The key word here is happily, as they could no doubt find a guy to marry; however deep down they will resent him for the fact that he forced her to marry down.

What is to be done?

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146 comments on “Connecting Educated Women with Less Educated Men
  1. Yoda says:

    Wonder if Darth Maul educated he is.

    Wonder if Moe educated he is.

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  2. Just put out a TV show about some cool and edgy college Educated rebel gals doing so and boom! New trend.

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  3. I wonder of people would watch reality shows featuring fairly “normal” highly functioning people w positive attitudes and low drama? Hummm…

    (I ask and start the post with “I” because female solipsism, yeah yeah yeah…)

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  4. Tarnished says:

    As stated above, educated does not always equal intelligent, nor do intelligent people necessarily have the resources to obtain a formal education. A woman with a Master’s in Gender Studies would…in my opinion…be marrying up if she wed a plumber who owned the company and had a large, satisfied amount of clientele. He probably makes more money than she, and thus has more than a little status.

    Or, people could learn to be happy with similarly educated/intellectual backgrounds. For example, I have a Bachelor’s in Business and was always on the Honor Roll/Dean’s List, took AP classes, etc. My love has a Master’s in Teaching, but never took any special classes and has a lower GPA. It evens out rather well, and due to our differences in preferred subjects we complement each other during discussions.

    Perhaps something like this is possible?

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  5. Tarnished says:

    Either that, or women are just going to keep wondering where all the good men went…

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  6. Yoda says:

    A woman with a Master’s in Gender Studies

    Less value/status than a high school drop out she would have.

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  7. Tarnished says:

    Sadly, not to everyone. Some see a degree and automatically believe it’s holder is akin to a demigod of intellectual brilliance. 😦

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  8. Liz says:

    “Education is used as a marker for status. Actually it is considered to be a very important marker. “

    I think this is the case less and less with the education bubble. Tarn is correct above, lots of degrees are worthless. Mike has an MBA and only got it because he had to get a masters for promotion. It’s essentially worthless as far as my “evaluation” of him (we actually make fun of his MBA because I’m the one that does the finances and investments, he’s not so good at that and it doesn’t interest him). I could be a doctor and he’d still be “above me” in my eyes. There’s a lot more to the equation than education or money (money CAN BE a big factor, but other things compensate…my mom in law is a corporate executive and has made more than my father in law for the past 20 years. Significantly more, but he is still superior to her in her eyes).

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  9. Liz says:

    “Sadly, not to everyone. Some see a degree and automatically believe it’s holder is akin to a demigod of intellectual brilliance.”

    And that itself is an intelligence test.

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    I’ve banged all manner of educated gash. They are most definitely willing to pair up with uneducated men if a man’s frame is strong.

    What’s to be done? Butch up butter cup. And that means killing the beta etc

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/07/why-college-educated-women-can-t-find-love.html

    You feel like you’re in romantic purgatory.

    It’s real. It’s not a hazy paranoia.

    And it’s not a matter of being too fat or too loud, too timid or too aggressive, too slutty or too frigid. If you’re a single, college-educated woman in Manhattan, the cards of love are stacked in favor of you remaining single—but it has nothing to do with texting a guy too soon or (not) sleeping with someone on a third date.

    Let’s be honest. Most women don’t live in Manhattan. And if the women in Manhattan all disappeared, probably the world would go on.

    Not for nothing are there 39 percent more women ages 22 to 29 with college degrees in Manhattan than men in the same bracket, with a gap of 100,000 between female and male college degree holders under the age of 35 in the entire city.

    And while the land of Sex and the City is tough for single women seeking college-educated men, it’s hardly the worst. Fort Lauderdale has 71 percent more female college grads than male between ages 22-29, followed by Providence, which has 60 percent more.

    So why are there so many women, and so few men in these places? Anyone? Bueller?

    The gap’s impact on dating for straight, single women is exacerbated, Birger explains, because men with college degrees are consciously or subconsciously aware that they are in scarce supply. They take advantage of their rarefied status by holding off settling down and enjoying the market of riches

    What a laugh. This is only true if you have a degree and game (natural or otherwise).

    When a work friend in her late thirties mentioned that she and her boyfriend, a man in his mid-forties, broke up because he wasn’t ready to settle down, her visible sadness left Birger feeling frustrated enough to investigate what he had long pondered: Why were his amazing female friends and colleagues single after years of dating and seeking marriage?

    When I hear about “amazing women”, I cringe. Perhaps you do also. So what is the solution?

    “More boys need to go to college. That’s the long-term solution,” Birger says.

    This is interesting,

    a study conducted by Columbia Business School professor Shang-Jin Wei and economist Xiabao Zhang showing that “20 percent of China’s GDP growth from 2000 through 2005 was attributable to the oversupply of men.” With women in China in short supply, the eligible bachelorettes made it clear that they prioritized guys with cash—which in turn, may have fueled the economy.

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  12. SFC Ton says:

    am I the only one who hates that not for nothing phrase?

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It’s deliberate. Degrees are status markers and women do respond to that. Now that so many of them are racking tens of thousands of dollars in debt and hoping for marriage to relieve that, it has become a two edged sword against them.
    They won’t marry down in educational status.

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    So he winds up with this,

    At the same time, men and women should both be less resistant to what Birger refers to as “mixed-collar marriages,” i.e, doctors, lawyers, and bankers marrying people without college degrees who work in blue-collar professions.

    “It’s a problem that we, as a society, are not more open-minded about who we are willing to date and marry. I was trading emails recently with a dating book author, and he made this comment that classism is a bigger problem in dating than racism. I agree,” Birger says.
    By confining themselves to degree-holders, Birger argues that women are “limiting their options and giving those college grad men too much leverage.”

    “I can’t accept the idea that a guy who doesn’t have a college degree means you’re marrying down. That’s a classist thing,” he says, rather adamantly.

    Never once is hypergamy mentioned

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  15. Liz says:

    “So why are there so many women, and so few men in these places? Anyone? Bueller?”

    I don’t know. But I don’t think Ft Lauderdale has a “man shortage” of any type. That’s not so far from our neck of the woods…one really ugly middle aged woman (and crazy, works at the base) with three kids married her third husband just last year, and they live in Ft Lauderdale.

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps she chased all of the men out of Ft Lauderdale

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Ugly, crazy, has three kids and two ex-husbnads and she found someone to marry her?
    I give up.

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  18. Liz says:

    Sorry Fuzzie. Yes, to all the above. I have no idea how.
    No one can even work with this person, she’s really a horrible human.
    He probably has something wrong with him too to marry her though.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    As for Bueller’s response, do you think it is because Title IX has dome such a good job of making colleges and universities a “hostile enviornment” for men?
    Ironic.

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  20. Liz says:

    Not for nothing. Not for nothing.
    Hm.
    Yes, yes I think I hate it too.

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  21. Liz says:

    Course if I made a list of common phrases I hate that list would be darn long.
    “I could care less” tops the list (it’s couldn’t care less, dammit!)

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  22. Farm Boy says:

    “I could care less” tops the list (it’s couldn’t care less, dammit!)

    Your answer is in here,

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    Can somebody translate this?

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  24. Farm Boy says:

    So why are there so many women, and so few men in these places? Anyone? Bueller?

    I am kinda thinking it has something to do with hypergamy.

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  25. Farm Boy says:

    I wonder if the mattress girl has done more pr0n…

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    Instead of “mattress girl”, why can’t there be “sammich girls”?

    Life for everybody would be so much better.

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  27. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    A few years ago, I saw a quote by Angry Harry. “Regretted sex is not rape.” I never thought that a woman would dare to try it, until this year. They are going to get it written into law.

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  28. Tarnished says:

    What else (besides the ever present sandwich) should a woman bring to a relationship with a man of Fuzzie’s or Farm Boy’s ilk? What would she get in return? And how to go about finding said women for said men?

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  29. Tarnished says:

    Farm Boy beat me to it with Weird Al video he did.

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  30. Sumo says:

    Can somebody translate this?

    Basically, she’s saying “I’m a useless twat who doesn’t know shit about video games, but I was able to con a bunch of people into funding this project, so here’s my shitty video. Don’t bother looking for the rest of the series, suckas!”

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Sumo,
    If it were only that. She has to keep coming back to the well.

    Tarn,
    I don’t know but, if the woman that Liz described can find herself a husband… It just makes me sick.

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  32. If that woman can find a husband, why am I single :/ me, me, me, me…

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  33. Yoda says:

    She has to keep coming back to the well.

    Pay for her hair dye and eyebrow plucking she does.

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  34. Ummmm, Yoda was that about me? If so I was thinking….blah blah…me…then….me…and…I thought/felt/said…always about meeeeee!!!!

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  35. Chocolate…that’s what’s missing! No Toblerone…whhhhhyyyyyyyyyyy??????

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  36. The manosphere is about ME, dang it!!!!! Humph. Stomps. Throws dishes…. Where is that Farm Boy?

    Kidding! Cookies?

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  37. Yoda says:

    Gratuitous video here it would be,

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  38. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    Not that you need my permission to go to the store for Toblerone…
    Will you please get some?

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  39. I would go get some fuzzie but it’s kiddo bedtime, time for bed myself. Toblerone tomorrow…

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  40. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    It is too bad that I don’t live nearby. Knowing how much you need it, I’d bring you some.

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  41. molly says:

    I make more money than my “educated” friends. 🙂 I have more wannabe boyfriends as well. 😉

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    You reminded me of the story of the founder of FedEx. He laid out the model for his class and his professor gave him a D.

    Tarn,
    I think that Farm boy and I need a collective solution. The current SMP in applying the 80/20 rule has cuased men a lot of harm. I don’t think that they will be too motivated to help a society that has cut them of at the knees.

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  43. I am ok fuzzie, I was just kidding!

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  44. Chalk it up to a silly mood and an inside joke w Liz about the me me me stuff. Gnite 🙂

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  45. Sumo says:

    Random anecdote alert: I spent the weekend working alongside a 19 y/o hottie who is currently enrolled in college; she mentioned that her boyfriend is a tradesman, and she seemed to be perfectly happy with their “educational disparity”.

    She appeared to be so happy that I actually felt a teensy bit bad about the fact that I was giving her Sumo-sized tingles all weekend. Oops.

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  46. molly says:

    I give men tsunami size hots. It’s not my fault. It’s my ‘armless shape, eh. 😉

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  47. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    All this time , I thought it was about you caring enough to see a boy well fed. 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

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  48. molly says:

    That too
    (heh heh)
    🌯 🌯 🌯 🌯 🐻

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  49. Sumo says:

    Molls, it’s unseemly for you to be bragging like that.

    Bragging is my territory. Find yer own niche. 😉

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  50. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Sumo,
    Molyy can girl rag while you boy brag. It’s almost two differnt things.

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  51. molly says:

    Sumo dinna ye want a groupie?
    :XD

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  52. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    I am still angry about hearing of that middle aged, ugly, with three kids and two ex-husbands. It’s like the SMP is so lopsided that someone like her can handicap herself to that extent and still write her own ticket.
    It’s more than a little discouraging.

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  53. Cill says:

    “Sumo dinna ye want a groupie?”
    I’m clarifying.
    She doesn’t mean she’s into group sex or any kind of sleaze. She meant “don’t you like the idea of having a supporter? (humor)”.

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  54. SFC Ton says:

    It’s a basic economic question really if one party wants xyz in a product and your product is weak on x you need to make damn sure the y & z of your product carries enough weight to overcome the short failings of x

    Another issue here is the basic dishonesty in women and what they say they want in a man vs what they actually want.

    That Laslo dude is a riot

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  55. Sumo says:

    I’m clarifying.

    Ghee is awesome!!!

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  56. Yoda says:

    Connecting Educated Women with Less Educated Men

    Wonder if want to be connected the women do.

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  57. Yoda says:

    Be happy married to a less educated man a woman can be?

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  58. Liz says:

    “Be happy married to a less educated man a woman can be?”

    I think the key word missing is “formally” there.
    “Be happy married to a less formally educated man a woman can be?”
    THe answer is yes.

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  59. Liz says:

    Good grief that barber link, Ton! 😦

    I didn’t read the next link in it’s entirety. Too depressing.

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  60. Liz says:

    “its entirety”, should’ve said.
    If I’m going to be a pedantic peckerwood about phrases I’d better not violate those rules myself. 🙂

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  61. Liz says:

    …at least, not on the same thread topic.
    I’ll totes go back to bad English on a different thread.

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  62. Liz says:

    I very good friend of ours (he’s in his late twenties) is one of the most intelligent people I’ve ever met. He never went to college, he’s entirely self taught, but very knowledgable about a great many things. He didn’t even do well in school…he only passed each grade because the teachers didn’t want to see him another year so they refused to fail him.

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  63. Liz says:

    Actually, he’s one of the key characters in my book. But it’s about forty years into the future and he’s homeless.
    He goes by the name ‘Cat Guy’. He did I told our friend he was my inspiration for the Cat Guy character and he is flattered. 😛
    Our friend is never without female company. Usually the female company is more formally educated (he seems to like nurses in particular).

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  64. Actually, I am not laslo. But I used to follow that blog just for his comments.

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  65. SFC Ton says:

    The smartest guy I know dropped out of college. Why? He rightly determined that phd holders in math and statistics did not understand the subjects as well as he did. No he is like a nerd gun for hire, pimping out his skillz to tech firms, doing the math other nerds cannot

    This nerd of nerds joined up because he didn’t want to think for a couple of years. Real socially awkward dude who caused problems in other platoons. Misfit toys do well under my care so I scooped him up and kept in touch.

    Where he doesn’t fit in this thread is he already had a master’s degree in math and statistics before he signed up. Where he does fit in is…. he didn’t finish college and claims his army time was more valuable as it taught him….. people skillz. Ie learned to pull ass

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  66. Liz says:

    Where is Laslo? He’s been mentioned twice. I’ve never heard of him. What blog?

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  67. SFC Ton says:

    He is a commenter at the blog referred to in the beginning of the OP. He does trolling right

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  68. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    You’re going to have to get the details from Bloom. He my have taken down his blog.

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  69. Liz says:

    Thanks! I went to the original and clicked on his link. Looks like his blog is still up.
    🙂

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  70. Cill says:

    The predictability of Dog and Horse is pleasant. The predictability of some humans ain’t.

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  71. His blog is here:
    http://iamlaslo.blogspot.com/?m=1

    I think he saves his comments so they are there even if deleted. Funny as heck on their own, but in context they are crazy brilliant. Enjoy!

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  72. Laslo is basically the ultimat crap talking, poo stirring, smart a**. And hilariously so.

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  73. For example:
    http://iamlaslo.blogspot.com/2015/09/i-wasnt-too-worried-because-i-held.html?m=1

    Laslo is always good antidote when a real troll gets ya worked up. How could somebody NOT laugh at that. Or maybe I am weird, I love sick dark humor!

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  74. Yoda says:

    he’s one of the key characters in my book

    A pimp or hoe he is not.

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  75. Liz says:

    It’s not the pimpin’ one, Yoda. 😛

    Thanks Bloom! I like that sort of humor too. 🙂

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  76. Liz says:

    There’s a really funny guy who posts at one of the military blogs I frequent. He has a similar sense of humor. The following is his response to the latest cover of the South Korean edition of Maxim (those interested can see it, here):
    http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-called-maxim-korea-pull-132914298.html

    His comment:

    “This Maxim cover is a shocking case of corporate irresponsibility which promotes incorrect actions and sends the wrong message to society.

    Smoking a cigarette with a girl’s tape-wrapped body halfway in a trunk is wrong on so many levels.

    To start, it promotes instant gratification and unprofessionalism to be lighting up a cigarette before the body is fully in the trunk and it is securely closed. Other points, such as flashy clothes and a distinctive car, just add to the misinformation. On top of this, that particular tape is a fiber and DNA magnet.

    Maxim should recall this magazine and reprint a more responsible cover of a ten year-old Avante burning in an alley while the Bad Boy in a helmet rides away on a delivery motorcycle.

    I might add, after observing that shirt, the white belt, and the perfectly coiffured hair, the picture might actually be showing the legs of a missing high school boy.”

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  77. Yoda says:

    Wonder if Darth Maul pimps on the side he does.

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  78. Liz’s book is about ME!!! Squee!

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  79. Liz says:

    Lol You don’t want it to be about you, Bloom…unless you want to be a 22 year old highschool dropout mafia mistress who dies three times and wakes up once from a coma.
    😛

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  80. See, totally about ME!!!

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  81. Yoda says:

    a 22 year old highschool dropout mafia mistress who dies three times and wakes up once from a coma.

    So about your mum it would be.

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  82. Yoda says:

    What percentage of women accept lesser educated men they would?

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  83. Liz says:

    “What percentage of women accept lesser educated men they would?”

    100 percent of the ones worth having.

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  84. Cill says:

    Has anyone had to cope with male-on-male jealousy? Male A is jealous of male B’s friendship with male C.

    I was staying in town. Male B knocked on the door and suggested we go out on the rantan. I agreed and off we went. We had a hell of a great time at the pubs and nightclubs, and news of our riotous night spread around my friends.

    There’s a knock at my door and I think to myself, This will be male A, sure to be. He’s as predictable as death and taxes.

    Sure enough, it’s male A. He stares past me and sees some empty beer bottles on the table. He then launches into a tirade about male B, that I shouldn’t trust male B who is a prick. He (male A) is angry and accusing, as if I’ve committed a crime. Without going into the detail, it ends with me telling him to go home and calm down and sort himself out. This has happened before and I’m tired of it.

    I reckon male B has played me, too. Although he obviously likes my company, he knew male A would be pissed off.

    I’m back at my paradise now, where Dog and Horse greet me like true friends. Give me their predictability any day.

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  85. SFC Ton says:

    Not sure you can put a percentage on it as it would depend heavily on the less educated man

    I will say all women would take a less educated man depending on his frame, vibe or whatever we are call it these days

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  86. Liz says:

    Cill, I didn’t know guys did that…women do it all the time, except it’s usually not as direct, more passive-aggressive. I have one female friend who has been “ousted” by the “herd”. When I meet up with her for lunch I feel like I’m cheating with a mistress or something. It’s a weird feeling.

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  87. Darth Maul says:

    Wonder if Darth Maul pimps on the side he does.

    No pimping for this Sith. That shit ain’t easy.

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  88. BuenaVista says:

    Cill, I’ve experienced it socially (as recently as last week) and professionally, when the staff became fonder of me than the boss. That’s a major reason why I stopped working for other people. The last time I worked for someone, I was the #2, and the CEO actively sought to spread negative gossip about me: he wanted me to be the hatchet man, not the guy people trusted.

    So he spread untrue stories about me, and also had me handle the really awkward problems that he created, such as hiring his best friend from college and cutting his pay in half after he moved cross country, or hiring his unemployable brother, who rewarded us with a series of sexual harassment lawsuits.

    I have had a little dinner club with two other guys, one of whom I’ve known well for 6 years. The third guy I’ve only known a few months; he is neighbors with the other. Each Wednesday this summer we had a steak night, and I would cook. My friend appears to have gotten weird because I’m spending time with the third guy independently of my longtime friend. He picked a fight last week and walked off a big job we were doing for a hog farmer; the farmer then fired me and #3 because the job was taking too long. The dinner club is no more. We’re too old for this crap.

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  89. SFC Ton says:

    Well played Darth

    Sean Connery is unschooled iirc but how many women would say no to his marriage proposal?

    Kind of far fetched I know but applies none the less

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  90. Cill says:

    Liz, it suddenly occurred to me that I had male A and male B arse about face in my comment above. I’ve edited it so it should now make more sense.

    Yeah I doubt that this jealousy occurs much with men. I’ll have sort it out, as it’s starting to interfere with my life.

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  91. SFC Ton says:

    I’d get new friends

    I have a no bitch rule, literal or figuratively speaking.

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  92. Cill says:

    BV I’m going to invite them to my place in town and if they come to blows (which they probably will) I’ll give them both a kick in the arse. That might just solve the problem, actually. I’ll get them to shake hands afterwards.

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  93. Cill says:

    …failing which I’ll tell them both to raff off. Yeah. Simplest solution.

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  94. Liz says:

    Have I ever mentioned I love men?
    So fucking refreshing and direct.

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  95. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    What Yoda asked earlier still hasn’t ben addressed. Would a woman marry down in educational status? Usually not. If she did, it would be with great reluctance. We have to remember that this is what is killing Blsck America.Women are getting through college and getting advanced by affirmative action because they’re worth double points as black and female.
    These women end up in white collar positins with lofty sounding titles and no man is their equal.

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  96. SFC Ton says:

    I see it all the time Fuzzie, but the men bring other status symbols to the table

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  97. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I found this and thought to share. Now why would men be reluctant to donate to a feminist run sperm bank? Let me count the ways.
    https://wordsmouthwick.wordpress.com/2015/09/09/british-sperm-bank-only-has-9-donors/
    Wae it in the UK where confidence was broken and a donor was chased down for child support?

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  98. Cill says:

    Good article there Fuzzy. Last I heard, most of NZ’s sperm “donations” these days are by homosexual men.

    Another reason men should not “donate” is that children will be given the right to know who their biological father is. It’s just a matter of time (if it hasn’t happened already). I vaguely remember a case where a woman sought child support from a donor.

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  99. Liz says:

    I think the problem with black America (gender disparity) isn’t the lack of male education but lack of actual accomplishment/achievement. Which isn’t surprising given the overwhelming prevalence of single parent, female-run households.

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  100. Liz says:

    As Tyrone, the ‘Head Pimp’ might say to those less fortunate….

    “Driving fast cars and fuckin’ fine lookin’ hoes ain’t a plan. It’s the result of a plan.”

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  101. blurkel says:

    I find this topic interesting, in that I’ve been supporting a masters degreed woman on my almost associate degree ejimikashun for several decades. She is always correct in her own mind. You all know how well THAT attitude has worked for her.

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  102. SFC Ton says:

    The problems with black “america” are legion

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  103. SFC Ton says:

    Along Bkurkel’s comment, asshole that I am, I get a real sense of enjoyment telling educated folks how little money they make.

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  104. Cill says:

    I found a case of a lesbian couple who had a child from sperm donated privately to one of them. Later, the Kansas Department for Children and Families filed an application to have the donor declared the father so they could force him to pay child support and reimburse the state for $6,000 already provided to the lesbians. The judge declared him the father.

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  105. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    I do remember that. It is curious, thye lengths government will go to in assigning paternity.

    I haven’t ben ommenting much. It may be a good thing. When attitude sinks this low, I amy say something to be regretted later.

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  106. molly says:

    Fuzzie 🐻 food ➡




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  107. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    You never fail to give my spirits a lift. “burrito: 🌯 🌯 🐻 🙄

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  108. molly says:

    Fuzzie, I’m searching for women marrying down in NZ. There’s a link. I’ll find it yet! 🙂

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  109. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    Thank you. While that may solve things on an individual level, wht is called for is a collective answer.

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  110. molly says:

    On topic. A lot of NZ women will “marry down”. Research by Callister.

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  111. molly says:

    “Among people in the 30-34 age bracket with a university degree or similar qualification, there are 155 women for every 100 men”.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/5841416/Where-have-all-the-smart-men-gone

    “In the past with men being more likely to hold formal educational qualifications than women there was more likelihood of women ‘marrying up’ educationally. In 1986, when there were far fewer women with degrees or higher qualifications just over 60% had a similarly qualified partner. But this percentage declined to just over half by 2006. So women are ‘partnering down’ educationally. However, few partner with men with no formal qualification, less than 3 percent (Callister and Didham, 2010).”
    http://callister.co.nz/nz-man-drought.pdf

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  112. Liz says:

    I just just reading this writeup entitled the “worst in diversity” over at Professor Doom’s place and thought I’d share. Addresses the topic of current “black culture” and “value” of higher education these days. This is hilarious. And sad. It’s true comedy noir.

    http://professorconfess.blogspot.kr/2015/09/the-worst-of-diversity.html

    “The faculty were gathered, as it was so often the case, for a mandatory meeting, for a Diversity Training workshop. The speaker was highly esteemed, being a head of some diversity-type department (I’ll avoid naming names here), from some place up north, with over 20 years in diversity-type education, and, of course, a Ph. D. (in the subject of African History, if I recall correctly).
    He began his talk with a question:
    “When were there no more European Wars in North America?”
    I’m no historian, but I responded with a cautious “1776,” supposing that with the Declaration of Independence, it would be problematic to define the wars in North America as “European.” I was wrong, and he was quick to inform me:
    “No. There were never any wars between the European powers in North America.”
    I really feel that in a room full of educated people, this sort of claim would cause a small riot, if not laughter at the very least. Believing I misunderstood, I responded “Not even between France and England?” Again, my claim was wrong, although I sure seemed to remember an altercation or two.
    “France and England didn’t have any wars in North America. Do you know why? Because they united to keep the black man down.”
    One faculty responded with a feeble “I don’t agree,” but I felt the need to inform the supposedly knowledgeable speaker that George Washington’s early military career was working for the British, against the French—I’m no historian, but I know a little (and, apparently, more than the many Educationists I was working with). The esteemed speaker would have none of it, merely repeating himself with emphasis:
    “France and England didn’t have any wars in North America because when they got here, they united to keep the black man down. This was how they solved the problems of war, and managed to not bring the European wars to the New World.”
    While through experience I’ve learned not to pay much attention to Diversity nonsense, I actually took a whole page of notes of his gibberish—the mind has a hard time remembering gibberish with precision, and I wanted to be sure that I recalled what he said in detail. For the most part, his grasp of history was simply demented, but I trust the above gives the basic gist of it.
    (snip)
    “Diversity without equity is meaningless.”
    I started paying attention again, since this is actually a relevant truth: equity, fairness, is the important thing. Not diversity. Apparently someone told him it was an important quote, but he didn’t understand it:
    “[The quote] means the most important thing the US needs is diversity at all levels.”
    All I could do was write down; if I didn’t have it written down in my own hand, I wouldn’t believe anyone could have such confusion of ideas. This alleged scholar then wandered back to history:
    “Memphis, in North Africa, is the oldest city in the world,”
    I again foolishly chose to interrupt him, to mention that Sumeria predates Memphis by 1,000 years. Now, I’ll grant archeologists probably have a few things wrong, and I’ve an open mind to alternative interpretations of historical evidence…but there was no evidence provided, he simply repeated himself, doubling down with, and I’m going to break this next quote down into pieces because it’s such a train wreck:
    “When Alexander the Great captured Alexandria,”
    Again, I’m no historian, but I know a thing or two. Alexander the Great was a bit of a megalomaniac, and named many cities after himself…he did this naming after he did the conquering, of course. So, I was confused when the esteemed department head said this. Again the historical evidence says Alexandria wasn’t much before Alexander came there, but this scholar had more to say…
    “When Alexander the Great captured Alexandria, it was called Memphis at the time,”
    This, of course, added more momentary confusion, since “the” Alexandria is located some distance from Memphis. Memphis, incidentally, was something of a holy city in its day, and you really, really, can’t move holy ground (not to mention, the stone temples are really tough to move). But the train wreck continues:
    (snip)

    “How many of you were familiar with this chronology?”
    Nobody indicated familiarity, which under the circumstances, was understandable. I had to admit, I wasn’t, but I’m also not intimately familiar with other fictional timelines, like the Star Wars or Lord of the Rings histories, either. Again, he provided no evidence; one other faculty asked if there was a book on this, which the scholar cited. To my own shame, I haven’t tracked down the book so I could see with my own eyes that this sort of stuff is passed off as fact.

    The speaker then wandered back into victim-speak, spewing just pure silliness. For what it’s worth, my ancestry doesn’t go anywhere near Sumeria and not much near Greece (but I’m quite willing to accept that the evidence says Plato was from Greece, not Memphis, and that the wheel came from Sumeria, again not Memphis)…my own ancestors were likely conquered and enslaved by the ancient Romans. Stuff happens. By the time the speaker finished up with:
    “Hitler only persecuted the Jews because there were no black people in Germany,”
    I was covering my mouth with both hands, and yes, I was sitting in the front row. There was no reason to point out that Hitler wrote a well known book on the subject, listing his issues. Again, I admit ignorance of much of the book, but I’m pretty sure “skin not dark enough” wasn’t one of his problems with Jews (to be clear, I’m simply addressing contents, or lack therof). Perhaps I’m wrong on this, however.
    Still, it really highlights how little control faculty, real scholars, have over higher education, that someone could spout such unsubstantiated and highly questionable “information” and become head of a department with a successful career in academia. I’m all for overthrowing invalid orthodoxy…but I feel it should be done in a more civilized way than simply shouting down and ignoring other points of view.

    After the talk, one of the more spineless of the sycophants rushed up to shake the speaker’s hand….

    Liz’s thoughts: You know, up until this moment it never occured to me but perhaps I’ve been focusing on the wrong market. Higher education appears ready for my ‘Pimpin Ma Hoe’ series of academic textbooks! Happy days!!

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  113. Liz says:

    FWIW, I was subjected to the same sort of “gibberish” long ago with my first teaching assignment at Westover Middle. I took over a classroom a couple of months into the school year. Right before the first grade reports were supposed to come out. The previous teacher left everything, including her grade book devoid of grades, and her planner devoid of any assignments. She’d had a nervous breakdown on the job.

    At any rate, it was either black history day, or black history week, or black history month that we were pulling into the auditorium to learn that African people had in fact invented EVERYTHING. We took a tour in the life of a hypothetical dear little Tyrone born in a world without black people, who had no comb, no shoes, no suitable clothing items, no furniture, no functioning ceiling on his home, no bus to go to school in, and so forth (I can’t remember specifics but that about covers it…unlike Professor Doom I didn’t take notes).

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  114. Yoda says:

    I had to admit, I wasn’t, but I’m also not intimately familiar with other timelines, like the Star Wars

    Loses all credibility he does.

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  115. SFC Ton says:

    Westover middle? As in Westover middle of Fayetteville NC infamy?

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  116. JDG says:

    Edumacated women make fewer sammiches. The end.

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  117. Liz says:

    Yes Ton, Dat Westover.
    (easy to believe a teacher left with a nervous breakdown, init?)

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  118. Yoda says:

    From Molly’s link,

    A shortage of bright single men does not surprise Tara Sutherland, a successful, high-flying career woman and part-time dive instructor.

    The 37-year-old is attractive and has a busy social life. But at a time when her friends are having babies, the Telecom infrastructure designer is single.

    “It seems that the educated men go overseas and stay there. Both my brothers did and they both met foreign women and stayed overseas.”

    In fact, apart from a few dates she has been single for seven years.

    Says Auckland-based Sutherland: “I don’t want to stand in a bar on a Friday night and try to meet someone. I want to meet someone who enjoys doing the things I do.”

    Sutherland wouldn’t care if she partnered with a man who was less qualified than her, but she owns her own house, and there is more at stake in hooking up with someone. She also doesn’t want a man to depend on her.

    And she finds the men she meets seem intimidated by her success. “They say things like, ‘Tara you scare the pants off me’.”

    Success they are intimidated by?
    Or perhaps something else it would be?
    Or perhaps not “intimidated” at all they are?
    Perhaps “not like” a better description it would be.

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  119. Yoda says:

    Moe weigh in on the subject he should.

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  120. Yoda says:

    “It seems that the educated men go overseas and stay there. Both my brothers did and they both met foreign women and stayed overseas.”

    Perhaps a lesson here there could be.

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  121. Yoda says:

    Molly,

    One needs to point a bear to food not.
    Nose more effective it would be.

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  122. Yoda says:

    Speaking of education,

    http://www.mindingthecampus.org/2015/09/office-for-civil-rights-goes-after-michigan-state/

    As described in the resolution letter, Michigan State is a university whose leadership is obsessed with sexual assault. (According to Clery Act figures, there were 27 reported sexual assaults in 2013 at MSU, from an enrollment of about 35,000 students.) In 2013, the university initiated what it called a “No Excuse for Sexual Assault” campaign, designed in part, according to the OCR letter, “to debunk common myths regarding sexual assault.” MSU “distributed posters with images and messages intended to dispel various myths regarding sexual assault”; handed out shirts, stickers, buttons, and brochures with the slogan at various university events; developed a “No Excuse” Facebook page; created a special help line for students who wanted to report a sexual assault; and translated all of these materials into different languages—including Korean, Arabic, and Chinese. Students interviewed by OCR recalled these initiatives, along with material from the two required training sessions on sexual assault directed at all incoming students. (Athletes receive additional training.)

    It appears that MSU’s training is creating some myths, rather than dispelling them. In a survey of all first-year and transfer students, 74.9 percent (incorrectly) said it was “false” that “someone can still give consent for sex if they are using alcohol or drugs.”

    Yet to OCR, at Michigan State, a “sexually hostile environment existed for and affected numerous students,” while “the University’s failure to address complaints of sexual harassment, including sexual violence, in a prompt and equitable manner caused and may have contributed to a continuation of this sexually hostile environment.” The agency seemed troubled by findings (from campus surveys) that students would be more likely to report sexual assault to the police than to the university office that handles college investigations—as if, somehow, this is a bad thing. The resolution letter also went out of its way to include extraneous comments from random students: “OCR heard,” for instance, that a student had reported being raped at a fraternity shortly before the investigator came to campus. Well: Had she? Though this information presumably would have been very easy to ascertain, OCR investigators seemed uninterested in finding out. Another: “Many students referenced a walkway on campus near the river (the river trail) as being routinely referred to by students as the ‘rape trail.” This sounds ominous, until OCR informs us that this reputation dated from events in the 1970s or 1980s—that is, before 99.99 percent of MSU’s current undergrads were born.

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  123. Yoda says:

    More education,

    http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/09/expel-people-who-demand-trigger-warnings/

    In other words, how can you be so cruel as to expect these students to engage with knowledge as it actually exists? They’re just trying to get the degrees they paid for in peace. Leave them alone.

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  124. SFC Ton says:

    All I have to say about that Liz is…. it was a clever idea on your husband’s part. You get shot, he gets the insurance money and a new woman. Very clever.

    You must have upped your wife cred but damn that is diabolical of him. Two Ton thumbs up on that murder by proxy set up….. there where two rapes and a murder in that muddled school one year which was considered an improvement over the year before when it was two murders and a gang rape….which probably wasn’t a rape. Also on of that towns high schools had the gold star for largest pcp bust in NC. Not Detroit but not a good place either.

    Maybe the lady with the high flying career and part time dive instructor is spending her free time doing other shit vs finding a log term lay.

    Yea Yoda as if any man would say that line about being scart. Sounds like more like you go girl/ chick lit emo porno then reality.

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  125. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Poor Moo U.

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  126. Cill says:

    Liz at 12:05 pm. The lunatics are running the asylum.

    One of the ways this blog has been good for me is in providing information about the extremism of leftbot-feminism. I have an MEng (Master of Engineering) from a prestigious STEM university overseas, which failed to educate me how to deal with leftbot-feminism. My parents educated me as to the invalidity of feminism, so I wasn’t as tongue-tied against the SJWs as most Civil Engineers would be.

    The universities actually train women and milksop men to be SJWs (i.e. lunatics). There’s no attempt in Education to provide a counterweight against the madness. Enlightened blogs are the only place I’ve been able to find the necessary balance. Academics are exposed in all their group-think barking madness. Apart from a few like the bloke you quoted (the one who queried the African Studies twerp) what a lot of weaklings they are. I’ve lost all respect for them.

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  127. molly says:

    “One needs to point a bear to food not.
    Nose more effective it would be”

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  128. molly says:

    ‘Tara you scare the pants off me’. ➡
    ‘Tara thanks, but no thanks.’

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  129. molly says:

    Off to work I go ho ho!
    KA-ROAR!!!!

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  130. Yoda says:

    Interesting this is,

    http://pjmedia.com/drhelen/2015/09/02/the-female-psychopath/

    Research suggests that young women who later become psychopaths may look different than young men who later present the same disorder. Specifically, Verona (2006) found that young women who later develop the disorder show a more relational form of aggression characterized by jealousy, self-harm, manipulation, and verbal aggression.
    Other research has examined the importance of relational aggression among females, suggesting that women may display aggression differently than their male counterparts. Crick and Grotpeter (1996) studied relational aggression, also known as covert aggression, which is a type of aggression in which harm is caused by damaging someone’s relationships or social status—and it’s different from the type of aggression (typically, physical) that males show each other. Relational aggression tends to be more subtle and manipulative.
    It may be that while many male psychopaths act in traditionally aggressive, socially -constructed ways which can eventually lead them to be incarcerated (and evaluated for psychopathy), female psychopaths operate in more nuanced, less overtly physically aggressive ways, though they can ultimately lead to equally destructive outcomes

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  131. Sumo says:

    That sounds like every girl I’ve ever dated, smiled at, or spoken to. In other words, AWALT. 😉

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  132. BuenaVista says:

    It’s funny until your (Hare score 30+) wife has a 170 IQ and turns the State onto your fabricated failures. Then you don’t see your son anymore. And he thinks he’s been abandoned by his father, who will be imprisoned in Rikers if he attempts to attend a parent-teacher conference.

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  133. Liz says:

    That sucks, BV. 😦
    Not to make light of your horrifying experience with a psychotic bitch, but I have to wonder what it’s like to live with someone with a 170 IQ.
    I wonder if it’s like the people who went to Harvard. They always pull that one out in the first fifteen or so minutes of conversation.
    (Chewing on sandwich) “Oh, we had the best sandwiches at Harvard!”
    (pushing away on a kayak) “Oh, I remember the yacht club at Harvard!”

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  134. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “That sounds lik every girl I have dated, smiled at, or spoken to. In other words, AWALT.”
    That bachelors can say thid about Western women and have credibility doesn’t speak well for Western women.
    It was they who sought advantage.

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  135. BuenaVista says:

    Liz, she never mentioned it in the manner you suggest. Perhaps because a) she has two degrees from Harvard; b) my sister taught there at the time; and c) I sent my nephew there. Also, likely, because I would have laughed, considering it an inferior education to my own.

    IOW, my fascination with Harvard ended when I lost my virginity in Harvard Yard at 17. It was snowing. The girl was someone from my Iowa hometown. The location was Harvard Yard, 39 Thayer Hall. My fascination with smart girls remains, and that is my big problem.

    My father, after I returned home from my interviews at Harvard, Williams and another place, said, “I hope you don’t go to Harvard.” So I didn’t.

    I like smart people, but I am vulnerable to crazy smart people. It’s a flaw. Unfortunately, there is a strong correlation between smart, and truly crazy.

    My pastor today asked me how I deal with a particular temptation. I shrugged and said, “Pfft. Simple, I avoid her.” He was pleased, naive as he is. That’s pretty much how I deal with smart, crazy humans.

    More seriously, any single man should know what a Hare score is, and should apply the Hare filter to any woman they are seriously contemplating.

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  136. Yoda says:

    (Chewing on sandwich) “Oh, we had the best sandwiches at Harvard!”

    As good as Mrs. Yoda’s sammiches they could not be.

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  137. Liz says:

    I have a thing for brilliant men too, BV. Fortunately they are seldom crazy. Mercurial, with obsessive-compulsive tendencies perhaps, but not psycho. Which is fortunate for the human race (and probably a reason the human race survived).

    Speaking of which (this applies more to your post at Bloom’s about “men goggles”…how men might perceive themselves as much younger than they are), Mike is going to spar a young wippersnapper (age 25) this weekend at the base. It started just between the two of them but I guess word got around and now people will be coming to watch it, and rumor has it they are setting bets.

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  138. BuenaVista says:

    Yeah, in the gym this morning my coach was talking about how he played a bunch of “old guys” last week in slow-pitch. “They were like 40 or something.” I just looked at him. It’s always a shocker. Stepping outside the personal, I think we see this refusal to age universally. Isn’t it a bit ridiculous that Redford still colors his hair? He can color his hair, but at some point, if he’s in his seduction mode, the shirt is coming off, and then we have a clown show.

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