An Open Letter to Cill and Molly


In reference to the extended family of Cill and Molly it has been mentioned on several occasions that the girls and young women are raised in a manner most unlike the majority of modern women.  The approach used would seem to be a resounding success, as these women have had fruitful and happy lives, and fine individual families.  It would be a great service to the world if these two fine people would write a post about the secrets to their family’s success.  Who knows, a lurker might be inspired to take such a path?

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198 comments on “An Open Letter to Cill and Molly
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have to second. Relationship ready women are thin on the ground and very much in demand.

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  2. Yoda says:

    Interesting this information would be.

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Have you considered that this may be a closely held family secret? It enhances the value of the family’s women.

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  4. To make it even easier, I’ll cut and paste the whe post linked to above here:

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    Guest Post By Ezzy: The Secret to Choosing Your Man

    The following comment was posted in response to another blog post but I felt it worthy of its own guest post.

    This comes from “Ezzy” who is a happily married woman living in New Zealand, the secret advice her mother gave to her and hers before that and the advice “Ezzy” gives her own daughters on how to choose a man to marry. Enjoy!

    —————————————–

    “I followed the advices my mother had received from her mother, and so on, going back many generations. I have passed the same advices to my daughters. I was told these advices were too precious to be owned, that each woman was a caretaker of them until she passed them on to the next caretaker. On seeing her daughter heed them, the weight of responsibility becomes sunlight on a mother’s shoulders.

    My ancestors knew all about female ‘group think’ (as it is now called) long ago, except they decided to apply it vertically (through the generations) rather than horizontally (across present generations). They saw the vertical approach as a strength and the horizontal as a fatal flaw. We draw our strength from all woman before us who have heeded the advices. All women have the capacity to carry them within.

    Love a man for his character, that is the base, and all else is ‘learning steps’ about each other, some delightful, some painful. Feel it from the wisdom of women who committed to men of good character in the past. This was instilled in me so strongly, good character became the romance of my dreams at an early age. My imaginary Prince Charmings thrilled me with their integrity, empathy, steadfastness and power of good character. I married a man who could not have taken my heart had he not been first and foremost a good man.

    Once committed, for as long as he stands to the contract and he shows his commitment by his words and actions, we will honor it. Whenever we start to feel critical or impatient, or (most fatally of all) start ‘comparing our lot’, we feel the support of the sisterhood who started failing in the past and yet stayed strong.”

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    It has been a while since I have read that. my understanding is deeper now. Her observatin on horizontal group think is telling .

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  6. I forget now the exact connection, is Ezzy Molly’s mom? Cill?

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I think that Ezzt is Cill’s mom but, I am not sure. Molly seems to be the only one who will post comments away from Cill’s house. That’s why we haven’t heard very much from her since.

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  8. Sumo says:

    From re-reading the comments on YOUR website, Bloomer, I’m guessing that Ezzy is Molly’s mummy. 😉

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  9. Yoda says:

    Unimpressive she is

    http://www.gq.com/gallery/amy-schumer-photos-star-wars-trainwreck

    Involve me she did not.
    Grateful I am.

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The last word that we had from either Cill or Molly was from Molly saying they were going out to catch some fish. I hope that these fish did not take them on a Nantucket Sleigh Ride all the way to Nantucket.

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  11. Yoda says:

    Hot Latin passion she does like.
    Exciting it is.
    Jedis seek excitement not.
    Good reason for this there is.

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I do remember Amy Schumer’s statement about being over 160 lbs. and still able to pull men. For a girl that a man can’t take home to his mother, look how far men have fallen in respect to SMV rank. I looked up Princess Leia on youtube. I won’t link it as the comparison is depressing.

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda 6:258/am,
    I read that link. If this is an option that modern American women want, the Radfems have won. They always wanted to kill marriage.

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  14. Re the open marriage article, yikes! That doesn’t sound exciting at all. The commenter who said were the roles reversed and he was the one who hatched this scheme people would be screaming, “abuser! Misogynist!” Are right on.

    Marriage 3.0? Gosh I sure hope not! 😦

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    Thanks Molly, false alarm.

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  16. Tarnished says:

    Re: Open marriage article

    First, let me put it out there that I don’t think open marriage makes much sense. A marriage is a physical/sexual/financial commitment to a person (in some cultures more than 1, but let’s keep it to the West for now). It can be legal and religious, or just legal, or just religious. But if you want to have numerous other partners on the side…why the hell would you get married? Perhaps it can work for some people, but I can’t think of many.

    If you still want to have sex with more than one person…stay single. It’s not that difficult a concept. The only possible exception I can think of is if after year of marital commitment one of the partners eliminates/severely decreases the sex. Would it be better for them to seek counseling to get their sex life back? Yes. But if that fails, I have a very hard time condemning someone who takes a lover on the side. (While being proactive about their sexual health, obviously.)

    One thing about the article that was very confusing was this:
    When people ask how it started, I say this: We married young. She’d had sex before me, but only with a handful of people a handful of times. She never had a boyfriend, never had a lover. I was the first man she ever had the chance to get to know intimately.

    Umm…what?
    If she had sex with 4-5 people but he’s the first man she knew intimately…were all her previous partners women? Or were some/all of them men, but because they were repeat ONS that doesn’t count as intimacy? Does not compute…

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  17. SFC Ton says:

    Willing cuckolds are faggots.

    Feminism isn’t about equal results but equal opportunity? Since when? It’s about special rights and extra opportunities with mandated successful results. But so is all the other diversity bullshit about affirmative action based on race and what not.

    Any White man who supports that bullshit is a nutless faggot, one step away from sucking cock himself, useless as a man to himself, family, tribe and race.

    A sane society would hunt such men to extinction

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  18. Spawny Get says:

    If his nuts dropped off, I doubt he’d notice.

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  19. Tarnished says:

    Thankfully, the vast majority of homosexual men have their testicles firmly attached. Unfortunately, this means they are hurt by feminist ideologies like hetero men and boys are…especially if they don’t join hands and sing along with such “allies”.

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  20. There were several things that bothered me about the open marriage article:

    1. They have kids
    2. It was a closed marriage that she opened
    3. She did it at a time when he was unemployed and a stay at home dad
    4. It sounds like she was going to do it whether he agreed or not
    5. He seems to have went along against his will to preserve the marriage
    6. She seems to have insisted he do it too to make it “fair”
    7. This sounds like how sexuality works in gay marriage
    8. This does not sound like it is written by a man to me
    9. Someone in the comments pointed out this “author” can’t be found elsewhere
    10. It reads like some kind of secret confessional
    11. Another “agenda?” Maybe “monogamy is the old black”?
    12. He accosts it in the end but more like an abuse victim rationalized things to make it work than how a healthy person does
    13. Her coming home and whispering titilating details about her excursions in his ear is just weird
    14. What is wrong w this world? Hopefully this doesn’t become the new normal – hypergamy wo the divorce? Hey, she needs someone to watch the kids while she has NSA sex, right? That’s what husbands are for???
    15. Ak!!!

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  21. * accepts not accosts

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  22. Tarnished says:

    I agree with most of what you’ve said above, Bloom. Honestly, I don’t think it’s real. Reads more like a secret fantasy or sexcapade from Penthouse or Literotica than anything else.

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  23. Every couple I know who tried to open up a formerly closed marriage all ended up divorced. I predict if this is a real story, it likely will not end well. Branch swing ahead!

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  24. This sounds like what my friend’s sister is doing, the one who was at the party spouting radfem nonsense.

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  25. Yoda says:

    If his nuts dropped off, I doubt he’d notice.

    Wife notice she would?

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    It sounds like the typical projection of a fembot lesbian. Because all men go out and shag women everywhere, all the time…right? So that means women should do it as well, because empowering.

    mad and/or retarded.

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  27. Wasn’t there some new book coming out w a similar “eat, pray, love minus the actual divorce part” theme?

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  28. missattempts says:

    Speaking of finding comfort in music…
    I find the group “Three Dog Night,” one of the best groups. They began in 1968
    with a song called “One Is The Loneliest Number.” Then they did “Mama Told Me
    Not To Come,” a remake of Eric Burden And The Animal’s, and “Joy To The World,”
    the number 1 song of 1971. Not to meantion, “Easy To Be Hard” from the play “Hair.”
    Lead singer Chuck Negron’s voice was probably the best in all history. They never
    wrote their own music but they sure knew how to pick their song writers. Negron got
    caught up in drugs but barely escaped. His wife told him to quit or suck pavement.
    He wrote the book “Three Dog Nightmare.” (1999.)
    In my opinion the best rock groups of all time are: The Beatles (For obvious reasons.)
    Three Dog Night, and The Hollies. Talent wise, The Hollies rank right up with the Beatles.
    “Bus Stop, STOP, STOP, STOP, and of course: “He Ain’t Heavy. He’s My Brother.”
    BTW, Cill, You are aware of a group of back up musicians called “The Wrecking Crew?”
    Did they have something like that where you came from? If you had emigrated to
    the States, do you think YOU could have been employed as one of them?

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  29. Yoda says:

    Reads more like a secret fantasy or sexcapade

    Fifty shades of cray-cray

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  30. @ tarn I noticed the “she only had several partners before me so she “needed” to do this” hamster action. No, more like she was on the carousel, married, had kids, now wants back on the carousel despite being MARRIED and of course wo any repercussions or consequences. Handy! “Don’t judge me!”

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    Nice one FarmBoy
    “Fifty shades of cray-cray”

    Jealous I am. Green with it.

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  32. Yoda says:

    Wasn’t there some new book coming out w a similar “eat, pray, love minus the actual divorce part” theme?

    “Eat, Pray, Cuckold”

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  33. Yoda says:

    Nice one FarmBoy

    Green I am.
    Green he is not.
    Eyes checked you should.

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  34. More hamster “if it’s not a secret, it’s not cheating. Lying is the issue, not the sex outside marriage.”

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    If his nuts dropped off, I doubt he’d notice.

    Wife notice she would?”

    She’d have slightly more space in her purse…saboutit

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  36. Yoda says:

    Lying is the issue, not the sex outside marriage

    So if evil deed one does.
    And lie not they do.
    Then fine this would be?

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  37. Yoda says:

    Many things in open marriage wrong they could go.
    To counter balance, list things that right they may go one could.
    Perhaps short list it would be.

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  38. Yoda says:

    I do remember Amy Schumer’s statement about being over 160 lbs. and still able to pull men

    Basis of future post this might be.

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  39. Tarnished says:

    To be fair, Bloom, I used to know a man who said the same thing. He had a fling now and then when he traveled to other countries for work, but always told his wife about it when he got back home. Unsurprisingly, they got divorced in 3 years (luckily no kids). If you truly desire casual sex…DON’T GET MARRIED.

    Another part of this that confused me was the fact “he” thought having only 5 or so partners was low enough that her NSA sex request was valid. If this were a true story, just how many previous women had he slept with to get this kind of reaction? 20? 35? 50? Is she married to Roosh?! 😛

    I can actually sympathize with a husband/wife who’s only had, say, 1 previous sex partner before marriage but their spouse had 10+. That could be a valid cause for some resentment, especially if they mention past experiences often.

    But again, this is where the whole “investigate the background of your partner before marrying them” comes in. If you are a man/woman who has a low N, it’d be better overall to wed someone with a similar N. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp?

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  40. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    After sleping on that open marriage post but not having reread it, I’m still mad. Not so much at him but at her. It does seem to be all her idea. There is a sense of unreality to the post and it’s likely phony but, if this is what women want from marriage, count the guys out. Really, you us to keep the home fires burning and watch the kids while you go out and screw strangers?

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  41. Liz says:

    Starting at the beginning, reading through…
    “I do remember Amy Schumer’s statement about being over 160 lbs. and still able to pull men. For a girl that a man can’t take home to his mother, look how far men have fallen in respect to SMV rank.”

    I think her exact words were “catch a dick whenever I want” Fuzzie. Women have always been able to “catch a dick”, even 160 pound ones. Back in the day they were usually called whores though.

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  42. Liz says:

    “I can actually sympathize with a husband/wife who’s only had, say, 1 previous sex partner before marriage but their spouse had 10+. That could be a valid cause for some resentment, especially if they mention past experiences often.”

    Mentioning past experiences often would be, in a word, weird. And definitely bad manners. If the man is the one with the experience I don’t think there would be a problem. Reversed, definitely. Women and men aren’t the same.

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  43. Tarnished says:

    Really, you us to keep the home fires burning and watch the kids while you go out and screw strangers?

    It reads less like a confessional and more like a radfem’s “revenge erotica”. After all, in days past the majority of men would leave their wives and children at home a few times a week to go out and play with every skirt that caught their eye…right? It’s not as though men that openly did this were considered cheating scum by their peers…

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  44. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    I was trying to put a good face on it but, you’re right. That does seem to be her criteria. Now, do men have to do all that is possible to appeal to this mentality?
    Privateman had a post a while ago.
    https://theprivateman.wordpress.com/2015/02/26/fuck-marry-kill-fmk-the-game/

    What gets me is that the standards are more stingent for no strings sex than for marriage. I still haven’t got over this WTF moment.
    I am beginning to think that most women have the mentality of Amy Schumer and not you, Liz.

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  45. Tarnished says:

    If the man is the one with the experience I don’t think there would be a problem. Reversed, definitely. Women and men aren’t the same.

    Perhaps it’s just my own strangeness talking, then. The only reason I’m fine with my lover having so many previous partners is because we aren’t wed/committed…I don’t own him, he doesn’t own me. However, if I suddenly decided to get married tomorrow, I’d seek out a man with a very low N like myself, or even a virgin male.

    I’d not like to spend the rest of my life with someone who has more experience than me. I would absolutely be resentful and jealous of what they had and I missed. I know this already.

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  46. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I don’t think there was a whole lot of men getting out of the house to “cat” around. What would be more likely would be that men would hunt, fish, or play cards.

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  47. Tarnished says:

    I know, Fuzzie.
    That entire comment was dripping with sarcasm. 😛

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  48. Tarnished says:

    Lol. I just realized how much of a typical guy I sounded like at 4:47…

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  49. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    In a sense, you do. OkCupid had a question and most women wanted men with more experience. Tought to satisfy when they have greater opportunity. I think it all ties in to wanting to be “swept off her feet”.

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  50. Yoda says:

    Back in the day they were usually called whores though.

    Today “hoes” they wod be called.
    Progress this is?

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  51. Yoda says:

    Really, you us to keep the home fires burning and watch the kids while you go out and screw strangers?

    Today’s average mother not as good as normally portrayed they are.
    Media should stop covering for them they should.

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  52. Yoda says:

    Grammer off today it is.
    Not so much sleep last night I did have.
    Mrs. Yoda happy she would be.

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  53. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I didn’t sleep too well either. I think that your link to that post about open relationships was unsettling.

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    After watching that Paulk Joseph Watson video, I conclused that these people should not vote. For a republic to work, there is a minimum standard for its citizens.

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  55. Tarnished says:

    Glad to hear it, Yoda.
    800 years and still able to swing that lightsaber, eh? 😉

    I think it all ties in to wanting to be “swept off her feet”.

    Ain’t nobody got time for that.

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  56. Yoda says:

    Thanks Molly, false alarm

    Probably more added it could be.

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  57. Talking about past sexual experiences to a current partner, not a good practice. Almost (but not quite) as bad as whispering details of current escapades into the hubby’s ear. These things can make people very jealous, insecure, and/or emotional. Especially uncool are comparisons, “so and so was better/really knew how to/would do such and such.” My feelings on it anyway. It just seems hurtful whether it is guy saying it to girl or other way around, although I suspect girl saying such to a guy might find he can’t get those thoughts out of his head. Not good.

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  58. Choicy says:

    It’s a pity Cillo or Molly hasn’t seen this yet. I think he’s got a lot on his plate at the moment and Molly is always as busy as a cash machine in a lucky lotto shop.

    I can give you this little bit of inside info, my mates, the traditional side that Farm Boy hinted at in his topic came down through the great grandmother who died earlier this year. She was the living proof of where the “grand” in grandmother came from. The “grand” is there because of reverence for the elderly. Well the reverence is gone like hay in a drought, which is feminism’s gain, and the ladies of Cillo’s clan are quick enough to know it.

    Unfortunately a lot of them grand old great aunts and so forth are now as old as Adam. I have a horrible feeling funerals will keep Cillo and Molly as busy as centipedes on a hotplate over the next year or so. I plan to bring some good digger cheer to them, my mates.

    Struth I’m getting as mopey as a Jerry on Anzac Day. I’ll think I’ll have me a pick-me-up before bed.

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  59. Once again I think there is a reason for the old ways. When people married young and stayed together for life and society endorsed such as the path, it eliminated so many of the problems seen in relationships today. Like my sitter I have described, society today might say that’s oppression but she is probably one of the happiest/most content people I know. After she married she showed up with a sky grin and hickies on her neck for weeks. And I was very happy for her, and him! They seem to have figured it out without any prior practice! And now they have a lifetime to explore it. 🙂

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  60. That’s a good point Choicy, women were respected, cared for, and looked after under patriarchy and women acted in a way worthy of such treatment. Today, this is largely no longer the case. And we have feminism to thank.

    However smart ladies, like Cill’s folk, are still respected, cared for, looked out for because they still act in the old way. I think (many) men would prefer to revere women rather than treat them as equals or lessers, if the women behave accordingly (not take advantage or abuse.) Women are wise to see being revered is hardly “oppression” as feminism claims. It’s actually quite nice!

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  61. Choicy says:

    Yeah Bloom, the old-fashioned ladies are as rare as horse feathers. Old-fashioned is as irresistible as returning a smile to Cillo’s sisters, mate. Stone the crows but a snifter of brandy makes a bloke mellow at night. Goodnight my mates.

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  62. Yoda says:

    However smart ladies, like Cill’s folk, are still respected, cared for, looked out for because they still act in the old way.

    Throughout galaxy true this is.
    Universal law it would be.

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  63. Tarnished says:

    I think (many) men would prefer to revere women rather than treat them as equals or lessers, if the women behave accordingly (not take advantage or abuse.)

    This sounds very similar to what Missattempts would repeat numerous times on my blog. Maybe someone here can discuss/explain why ANY woman or man should be “revered”?

    I’ll be honest…the idea of such makes me highly uncomfortable. You don’t get a cookie for being a decent human being. That’s kinda the minimum requirement. :/

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  64. Tarnished says:

    And I’m not saying men and women shouldn’t respect and care for/about one another. Not at all! It’s just this idea of showing reverence for nothing more than being a good spouse is very, very strange sounding to me. I’d like to understand this point of view if possible though…

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  65. Tarn it’s a hard thing to put into words, not to mention totally not pc. So it goes something like this… Women are physically the “weaker” sex, just purely by physiology (less muscle, less strength, etc.) there is much data to prove this. Men just are more muscular and stronger. Sure there are bodybuilder women or very slight framed men but even small guys are usually stronger than a woman. Add to that the idea that women are, before birth control, often incapacitated due to pregnancy and or having young children thru the childbearing years. But women can do one thing that men cannot – gestate and have babies. Men revered women bc they needed them to have their babies. And of course women did many other things. Men revered and protected women bc they were the vessels thru which their children came. But they needed chaste women bc a man had no way of knowing otherwise if a baby was his. Chaste women were prized and revered. Likewise, women who would make good mothers were too. Plus women provided their man beauty, pleasure, refuge and comfort in an otherwise cruel world. Men could not get this from other men. Men were willing to provide and protect “his” woman/daughters/sisters/mother because they were treasured and special. If women behave in a crass, low way like they do today they are not really special, not good mate or mother prospects. Men want a woman worthy of reverence, a woman who is special. men derive a lot of personal worth and satisfaction from providing and protecting “their” family. they live for it, some might say. it drives them to achieve what men have. Women lower their value by behaving like they do today. Why bother? Men go mtgow and get by on much less. like ton has said, men’s lives are easier w/o women yet Ton himself shelters three. why? because it brings him joy (i assume.) he dorsnt “need” them, he “wants” them. likewise Gamer has spoken of how his wife is special, a unicorn, etc. thats why he wants her/wanted her. Neither of them “needs” a woman like their women need them. And Women are still weaker despite all this feminism/equality women still need men. Women actually blew up their own good deal.

    I am not sure that makes sense, I typed it rather quickly and should think on this more.

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  66. Put more simply Cill regards the women in his life bc they are worthy of that regard.

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  67. Yoda says:

    If women behave in a crass, low way like they do today they are not really special, not good mate or mother prospects.

    True this is.
    Negative value to men they would have.
    If not for men’s little head, hurting greatly women as a whole would be.

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  68. Cill says:

    Bloom, is Ezzy Molly’s mom? Yes. I had to check back to your blog because any one of my mother or her sisters, or earlier women going back through the line, could have written that. I can understand why people are confused, “Ezzy” and “Elizabeth” sound so similar.

    missattempts Cill, You are aware of a group of back up musicians called “The Wrecking Crew?”
    Did they have something like that where you came from? If you had emigrated to
    the States, do you think YOU could have been employed as one of them?

    You’ve lost me. Maybe Fuzzy or Bloom, who Liked your comment, could throw some light?

    Tarn, I think Choicy was referring to reverence for old age, rather than pedestalizing good wives. He reveres the wisdom of old age that passes the lessons of history down to those who would listen. Feminism is worse than deaf ears, it outright refuses to listen or learn from history. It actually prefers to rewrite history to suit itself.

    Words have so much power they are at once our tool and our tyrant. “Reverence” is just such a word. I know husbands who feel great gratitude for their wives, which is returned by their wives. Some would call it reverence. Definitions again.

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  69. Tarnished says:

    Bloom,

    I get the basic biological differences between the sexes, regardless of whether they are generalizations or not. I guess I’m just having trouble seeing why those differences should necessarily mean that women are/can be worthy of reverence.

    Males typically have the ability to wield greater strength…but that’s not “special” anymore than a female’s ability to be pregnant. Women typically can see a wider range of colors and infant girls have fewer sex-linked disorders that would kill an infant boy. Men typically are taller and have an easier time building muscle.

    These differences don’t (again, imo) make any one of us worthy of reverence though. To me, reverence is like Respect Plus…something you’d show towards someone who goes above and beyond what the typical male/female is capable of. A guy being stronger than me is no awesome feat, and my ability to potentially conceive and carry offspring is nothing that billions of other women before me have also had.

    I can understand loving someone, caring for someone, working yourself to the bone for their well being or yes, even dying for them. But giving someone reverence for what essentially amounts to a genetic lottery just is…strange. I had no say in whether I was born with a womb or not. I didn’t have to work to earn it, I didn’t have to prove myself to get it any more than my love had to strive to be 6’2″ or stronger than me.

    It is what it is.
    It’s just how nature “made” us to be.
    I’d like to be revered for some aspect of myself I actually had a hand in rather than just accepting it because “woo hoo, I can get pregnant like the other 3.4 billion people alive today”.

    That’s my take on it. Not saying I’m correct, but it’s my view.

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  70. Yoda says:

    It actually prefers to rewrite history to suit itself.

    If do this you must,
    Then pathetic you are.

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  71. Tarnished says:

    Tarn, I think Choicy was referring to reverence for old age, rather than pedestalizing good wives. He reveres the wisdom of old age that passes the lessons of history down to those who would listen.

    Reverence for elders who possess wisdom and are willing to teach is something I not only understand, but have.

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  72. Yoda says:

    I think it all ties in to wanting to be “swept off her feet”.

    Deserve to be swept off their feet they should be,
    if to happen this will.

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  73. Tarnished says:

    Before he left, Gamer actually said something on the last post that I thought was odd. He was talking to Liz, and was saying she should describe what it’s like to be female so he could understand/sympathize or whatever. One of the examples he gave was along the lines of “tell me what it’s like to feel insecure because I’m physically weak”.

    I gave a half-hearted reply, but have been thinking about this more, especially given Bloom’s recent comments. Do any women here ever feel insecure because they’re not as strong as most men?

    Like I said, I’ve been seriously thinking about this and can’t come up with a single time I’ve felt insecure or scared or lesser “just because”. Truthfully, it’s not something that I tend to take much notice of. I lift 90 lbs boxes, and unload vans, and carry metal display racks up flights of stairs just as my male coworkers do…and yes, sometimes I carry more than them. (Whether this is from laziness on their part, or because I’m stronger than my more overweight coworkers, I don’t know.) I am certainly not saying I’m She-Hulk or anything! But other than times when a guy has literally used his strength against me in a violent manner, this issue never comes up.

    The 19 year old who picked up my 15 year old frame by the throat and slammed his knee into my crotch 3 times while holding me against the lockers at school is a good example.
    Was he male? Yes.
    Was he stronger? Yes.
    Did he hurt me? Hell, yes.
    But to me, that had nothing to do with him *being* male. It had do do with him being an utter douchey asshole bully.

    I don’t get the concept of being insecure around people who are stronger. Otherwise, shouldn’t children feel insecure around both men AND women because both are more physically capable? Shouldn’t our pets feel insecure around us? Do weak men feel innately insecure around stronger men?

    Blah. I rambled a bit and have to go now, but wanted to throw this meandering line of questions out there.

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  74. Tarnished says:

    To clarify a little:

    I see being insecure around people just because they could be/are more muscular similar to how feminists talk about constantly living with the fear of being raped. They say things like “I can’t walk in my gated community alone at night because of the threat of rape” or “male privilege is not knowing what it’s like to need to hold your keys in your fist/a can of mace ready in your purse as you walk to your car with groceries”.

    I think to myself, how can anyone live like that? Always fearful, always expecting a murderer or rapist is crouched behind every tree or car? It’s the same confusion I have about being afraid of men simply because they have better muscle mass.
    *shakes head*

    Ok, bye for real!

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  75. “But other than times when a guy has literally used his strength against me in a violent manner, this issue never comes up.”

    Bingo. This is why women need men, to protect them from other (not nice) men.

    I am very strong and capable andift heavy things and am I telligent and successful etc. but I realized when the herion addict came to my door late that night, I am very very vulnerable as are my girls without a man here. Of course not just any man will do. Some men as we all know might be worse/more damaging to me and my girls than a violent stranger. I am not talking about that ki d of man. Better to be alone than w a man like that for sure!

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  76. Tarnished says:

    Bingo. This is why women need men, to protect them from other (not nice) men.

    I think I’d rather have shooting lessons and a gun.

    Not because I am trying to act tough or be all “I am female, hear me roar”. It’s because I don’t want any man to feel he has to/should be expected to potentially sacrifice himself for my safety because I was born female. I’d take a bullet for my love or throw myself in front of a car for him if it meant he was left unharmed. That’s just what you do for those you cherish. It has nothing to do with their sex.

    Then again, there is the distinct possibility this is an instance of my mind and body being dysphoric again. In which case, what I’m saying doesn’t have any actual relevance to standard M/F relationships and should be ignored. :/

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  77. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic. I don’t know what is going on with Jessica Valenti. A while ago, she wrote about how she wouldn’t leave the house without looking her best. Judgybitch slammed her, Now, ther is this.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/07/20/where-have-all-of-the-bad-men-gone/

    To borrow from liz, the next thing that will happen is that she will get a boob job and frivorce her husband.
    Everybody, enjot your popcorn!

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  78. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny, congrats for getting first comment. Hard to do on a Dalrock post.

    Tarn,
    I would think that the “reverence” would be reserved for motherhood. Feminism has done a thourogh job of killing that. All that’s left to women is sexual attractiveness. Having seen recent TFM video

    Clos to the end, he states that all this will have a negative impact on desirability to men that women want.

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  79. Liz says:

    I suggest all women:
    1) own a gun and know how to use it.
    2) Don’t be stupid.
    3) see number 2 again.

    If you live in a bad area, especially, don’t walk at night alone, don’t wear slinky outfits that draw attention and then be surprised when you get attention. I have no problem with women who are hyper vigilant about their own safety. I have a problem when women talk about how afraid of the boogy man they are and then don’t do the square root of fuck all to protect themselves….it’s the opposite. “Heavens to betsy! This skirt isn’t covering my ass and I’m alone on a dark street…it just isn’t right that I don’t feel safe! I should be able to walk naked alone at night anywhere! What happened to chivalry?”

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  80. Yoda says:

    This skirt isn’t covering my ass and I’m alone on a dark street…it just isn’t right that I don’t feel safe! I should be able to walk naked alone at night anywhere!

    Kind of like this it is,

    I think there is another side to the same coin. These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, I think the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land.

    They want this all to happen without giving up their freedom; they want to play this out in the context of serial monogamy, so they can feel loved while also claiming their promiscuity is moral. They want to lose control to a string of strangers who have all of the hallmarks of very dangerous men, and they want a promise that this will always end well.

    They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They are telling men to build a sort of serial monogamy amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them safely feeling unsafe.

    One more thing. As I mentioned above they don’t want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actual amusement park, they want roller coasters to spring up randomly in the same exact circumstances where the real danger they mimic would appear. They want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of control. They want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute. And all they ask is your guarantee that all of this will be safe.

    From Dalrock this is.

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  81. Liz says:

    Fuzzie, I’ve noticed now that JB writes for the Examiner I can’t post there anymore without a Facebook or Twitter account, or one of those affiliates. I wanted to because her latest drone topic was quite erroneous.

    I’ve heard that there is a program in the works that will take any photo anyone has ever posted online, anywhere, and identify them via Facebook (and any other persona they have, presumably). These channels are all connected, I think. Days of privacy via aliases are squeaking to a slow end, I think.

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  82. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    TFM had a video today on the open relationship link. He addresses it to all male feminists. There is a little synchronicity with Jessica Valenti. Having seen pictures of her and her husband, it’s plain that she is dominant but, he’s as loving and loyal as a puppy dog. This won’t end well for him.

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  83. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    It is curious that you mention that in light of Ashley Madison getting hacked. For those who don’t know, Ashley Madison is an online dating site for married peoplke who want to cheat. The hackers are demanding that they shut down or they’ll release all information. That will out everyone on the site.
    This sounds like extortion and the company is valued at $100 million.

    Speaking of losing anonimity, feminists say the most horrible things imaginable under their own names. Even using psuedonyms, we’re more circumspect and, ultimately, kind.

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  84. Cill says:

    Hell I didn’t know that, Fuzzy. Last I heard the company was about to list on the stock exchange, or issue a prospectus at least. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

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  85. SFC Ton says:

    I can only assume if guy is ok with his bitch fucking other dudes he likes the taste of cock when he kisses her and thereby a queer. To small in number to give a fuck about such dudes other then the should be ridiculed etc in public

    tarn do you believe there was a time the majority of men would leave hearth and home to go fuck other chicks?

    Him being strong enough to pick you up had everything to do with him being male

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    It is a good thing that this occurred before they went public.

    Ton,
    From a purely ethical perspective, he is doing the right thing. He is trying to keep the family together. It’s not what I would do, not is it what you would do.

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  87. Liz says:

    I hadn’t heard about the Ashley Madison hack. It will be interesting to see how that one works out.

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  88. molly says:

    “That will out everyone on the site.”

    Boo-Hoo-hahahahaha!

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry as well. I’m laughing to think of cheaters getting hoist by their own petard. I’m crying because I was so looking forward to the share float falling flat on its face!
    lol (sob) lol lol

    Tee hee hee hee (yeah the laugh won in the end)

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  89. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    Like you, I have all kinds of mixed feelings about this. The one good thing that can be said for the existence of Ashley Madison is that it made a home for cheaters. Better than having them register as “single” on a normal site.

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  90. Liz says:

    Well, China has ALL of our personal information (to include my mother’s naturalization info, and the in-laws naturalization info).
    So I’m not inclined to sympathize with the purveyors of Ashley Madison. Thinking further though, if that sort of thing catches on it could be curtains for those Lifestyle communities too (aka swinger communities online…it’s a secret society of sorts, for a lot of them).

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  91. molly says:

    On topic “write a post about the secrets to their family’s success”

    Farm Boy we don’t see so much of each other now (Cillo and me). This gives us another excuse to get together and he might let me hit his top shelf! I’ll have a shot like Cill and Sumo, I’ll have 8 shots with X for breakfast! 😛

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  92. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    I was thinking about carry over to normal dating sites. This will be bad news for them too.

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  93. Sumo says:

    8 shots for breakfast? Is that what you think of me?

    I’ll have you know that I am not an alcoholic, thank you very much.

    Alcoholics go to meetings. 😉

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  94. molly says:

    Hey it’s real cool getting Liked by “fuzziewuzziebear” 🙂

    See if it happens again
    “Liked by…

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  95. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly, you like to be “liked”.

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  96. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  97. Liz says:

    Lol!
    Conversation when Mike got home.
    Me: “Hey, did you hear Ashley Madison got hacked?”
    Him: (Loudly) “HOLY FUCK! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?”
    Me: “Did you use an alias at least?”
    Him: “Yeah. Pigdick.”
    Me: “Pigdick?”
    Him: “Bigdick was taken. If I went with bigdick it would have had to be bigdick1247, but there was no pigdick! I didn’t even need a number after it.
    Me: “And everyone loves pigdick.”

    We have fun, my man and I. 😛

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  98. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz.
    You two have fun. One of Dalrock’s kids noticed something odd about his parents while on vacation. While sitting down in a restaurant waiting for breakfast, he piped up saying tha Mommie and Daddy talk to each other. None of the other married couples were.
    I have mentioned this before but, being so simple that a child can see it counts for veracity.

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  99. Yoda says:

    pigdick

    Two orifices it does have?

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  100. Yoda says:

    Like pigsnout it would be?

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  101. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I would appreciate it if we refrained from mentioning Al Gore’s ficticious “ManBearPig”.

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  102. Liz says:

    “Two orifices it does have?”
    I dont’ know, but it reminds me of the Canadian moose cock joke.

    Two Canadians are sitting at a bar.

    One of them leans over and says, “Ay, why don’t we play 20 questions, ay?”

    The second one says, “OK, ay.”

    The first one tries to think of a word and finally thinks up “Moose Cock.”

    The second thinks a moment, and for his first clue asks, “Ay, can you eat it, ay?”

    The first guy rubs his chin and says, “Ay, I guess so, ay.”

    The second guy goes, “Is it a moose cock?”

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  103. Liz says:

    That was for Sumo. 😛

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  104. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    MJoose trampoline video. Much different out come. Girl moose displays good sense.

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  105. Sumo says:

    Dammit, Lizard……it’s “EH”. Get it right.

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  106. Cill says:

    Kiwis say “eh” a lot too, eh.

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  107. Cill says:

    Down Under, “ay” is pronounced “I” as in “high”.
    “Eh” is pronounced “a” as in “hay”.

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  108. Farm Boy says:

    Kiwis say “eh” a lot too, eh

    Probably the Scottish influence.

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  109. Sumo says:

    Down Under, “ay” is pronounced “I” as in “high”.
    “Eh” is pronounced “a” as in “hay”.

    ‘Tis the same in Canuckistan.

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  110. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am so twisted. I loved this program.

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  111. Black Pill says:

    If you are a man/woman who has a low N, it’d be better overall to wed someone with a similar N. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp?

    The problem is not understanding it. The problem is that there are lots of men with a low N, but hardly any women with a low N. If men held the line on finding a woman with a similar N, then men would be refusing en masse to get married.

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  112. Black Pill says:

    I think (many) men would prefer to revere women rather than treat them as equals or lessers, if the women behave accordingly (not take advantage or abuse.)

    This sounds very similar to what Missattempts would repeat numerous times on my blog. Maybe someone here can discuss/explain why ANY woman or man should be “revered”?

    There’s no reason why a woman should be revered. The reason why lots of men want to revere women is a holdover from biology. It’s like the problem the Pak Protectors have that I talked about on my blog. And even many of the Pak Protectors who know they have a problem can’t break free of it. Most men don’t know they have a problem, and most of the men who do can’t break free of it.

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  113. Tarnished says:

    tarn do you believe there was a time the majority of men would leave hearth and home to go fuck other chicks?

    Nope. Do you think there was?

    Him being strong enough to pick you up had everything to do with him being male

    Who said he has ever physically picked me up? He has, once, but I’d be with him even if he couldn’t. And it doesn’t matter to me if he can lift me or not, since I don’t like it.

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  114. missattempts says:

    Dear Cill,
    About “Three Dog Night:”
    They got their name from the aborigonies in the Australian outback. People would
    sleep next to their dogs for warmth. If it was especially cold, it was termed:
    “A three dog night.”
    “The Wrecking Crew” was a group of studio musicians that played on many
    DIVERSE styles of music from Frank Sanatra (“Stranger’s In The Night,”) to
    rock songs. What was interesting about them, was their versitality in the varieties
    of music they played on. Many derided “Rock and Roll, and thought it was only a
    passing fad. They were the “best kept secret” for people who thought most groups
    played their own music.

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  115. Liz says:

    “Ashley Madison was hacked! That’s a betrayal of our trust.”

    -author unknown

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    Irony is dead, long live irony

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  117. Tarnished says:

    BP,

    True, this wouldn’t work for the current generation of 30’s-40’s men and women. Maybe it could change in the future though, as we were talking about at your place.

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  118. SFC Ton says:

    me and you Fuzzie, our sense of ethics don’t align at all

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  119. Liz says:

    Going on a road trip! (visiting mom)
    See ya’ all on Friday. 🙂

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  120. Spawny Get says:

    I watched the film ‘Fury’ last night. I liked it. It exaggerated a few things for the hard-of-thinking amongst the audience, but I generally liked it.

    The scenario towards the end, to me, is a great example of what being a man is about in a healthy society, or the mythos of a healthy society. The men chose to face almost certain death in order to prevent the Germans breaking through to the rear and so threatening the region’s supply train. cf 300 / ‘Horatius at the Bridge’.

    It was a very male story. Have any of the wimminz here seen it? 😉 Do you understand the attraction of the scenario? The ideal of dying to protect a society worth defending.

    N.B. I don’t think the concept is valid at a national level anymore. Die to defend the EU? Get bent.

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  121. Spawny Get says:

    Liz, bonne route (bon voyage for driving. bon vol – good flight)

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  122. Spawny Get says:

    Visiting Mum? yikes. Bonne route is the least of it.

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  123. Tarnished says:

    Have a safe trip, Liz!

    Do you understand the attraction of the scenario? The ideal of dying to protect a society worth defending.

    Yup. It’s also a matter of sacrificing one life…your own…to ensure others can live. Our individual lives are the one thing that honestly, truly belongs to us and nobody else, and giving one to save many is the most noble (though still sad) action one can take.

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  124. Spawny Get says:

    I don’t think that that level of self sacrifice is often marketed as the kind of thing that women should aspire to… IS THIS A GENDERED ISSUE??? I’m off to my fainting couch. Shocked I am, shocked.

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  125. Tarnished says:

    Lol. It’s most assuredly not.
    In my college history class, we were going over some of the sacrifices people made in WW2, and the professor asked a question very similar to yours. He asked us to raise our hand if we would give our lives if it meant that the rest of the room would be spared death. I raised my hand, and about 2/3 of the boys.

    We talked about this concept of dying so that others may live for a while. The professor then asked the students who didn’t raise their hand why. The general consensus was that they didn’t know anyone in the class well enough to really care about whether they lived or died. The girl behind me offered up her opinion that I shouldn’t have raised my hand because I have a responsibility to care for my family before helping any strangers.

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  126. Tarnished says:

    Also, I don’t have any experience with fainting couches, but I used to know a fainting goat…

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  127. Black Pill says:

    True, this wouldn’t work for the current generation of 30’s-40’s men and women. Maybe it could change in the future though, as we were talking about at your place.

    It also won’t work for men in their 20s. Besides the problem is much more fundamental than that. Women consider around 80% of men to be subhuman. Thus women don’t want to have a similar N count to most men.

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  128. Spawny Get says:

    Just found a comment from BP in the spam filter (4:25am patriarch time). Freed up.

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  129. Thinking more on this open marriage article (if it is real) he would have been far better off to bring her to heel than to put the leash and collar on himself. Had he done so he’d likely be the one sexing up his naughty little wife instead of Tom, Dick, and Harry.

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  130. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I think he lost her when she became the breadwinner. TFM’s observation is right. If he were the breadwinner, he have been tossed out. With her as the income producer, divorce would mean that she would have to pay alimony and child support. He’d be taking care of the children. Going the “open marriage” route allows her to line up a new guy for the monkey branch swing.
    This whole thing is so sad and sick.

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  131. Black Pill says:

    Thinking more on this open marriage article (if it is real) he would have been far better off to bring her to heel than to put the leash and collar on himself.

    This would have landed him in prison. That would have gotten him laid by being the victim of prison rape.

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  132. Black pill I wasn’t implying physical violence. There are other ways much more effective than that, no prison necessary!

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  133. To put it another way, that open marriage thing was a huge s#it test, and he failed by agreeing to her plan. Better had he stood the line and risked divorce, as fuzzie points out she would have to pay him!

    That’s just my 2 cents. And please don’t misread this as my saying its his fault. But had he set a hard line I think she would have respected that more.

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  134. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    It’s inevitable that there will be points of contention. There should also be a means to resolves them. However, Domesitc Violence legislation has overlooked this point. It’s considered abuse if a man argues with logic. The feminists are writing the rules.

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  135. Spawny Get says:

    Now Fuzzie, I’m sure we’ve been through this before.

    Logic, reason and reality are patriarchal constructs.

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  136. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Equality is not enough. As George Orwell put it so eloquently, they want to be “more equal”.
    My head is getting sore from all this scratching.

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  137. molly says:

    I shall make a poultice for your sore head Fuzzie Bear 🙂

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  138. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    Maybe I should do something else. Eat crackers? How about quackers? I’d be up to my knees in feathers before too long.

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  139. molly says:

    Bloom

    Black Pill is right. At least in U. fembot K. (Theresa May). If he stood the line verbally he risks a charge of DV:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2204778/Domestic-violence-include-mental-torment-laws-applied-aged-18.html

    Men can be jailed for it.

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  140. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    What the Daily Mail neglected to mention was that there will be penalties. Up to fourteen years in prison.

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  141. @ fuzzie and Molly I would be more exicit but I don’t want to shock anyone. I am not talking about verbal or physical altercation or restraint. I am talking about emotional and sexual dominance.

    One appropriate response to her nonsense, for example, might have been something like, “oh, so you want to get fuc*ed, do you? Is that what you want?” And then proceeded to show her who’s the boss, so to speak. Chances are what she was saying with all this is his warm, fuzzy, tender style wasn’t doing it for her so since he wasn’t giving her a good rogering, she’d look elsewhere. Had he done this, then continued on a frequent and escalating scale, say adding in some hair pulling, light discipline, etc. until he discovers what the boundaries are (and he’d probably be surprised just how bad his strong independent woman wants to submit.) I guarentee it would have made her forget all about that open marriage nonsense.

    It’s the blue pill dirty little secret… Women want to be possessed, consumed, owned by a man. even if they protest its not so. That’s what she’s searching for and when she finds it, if that man will have her, she’ll jump.

    Her husband could still stop the nonsense if he did this, but as long as he pussyfoots and kow tows, he’s as good as gone. Doing the above would save his marriage. Dominant seduction. Doing what he is doing will only drive her to keep seeking it elsewhere.

    I know that’s shocking stuff to some but it’s true! Like it or not…

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  142. molly says:

    Bloom I agree! 🙂 There are ways and ways, eh. Some call it “game”.

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  143. Yoda says:

    I shall make a poultice for your sore head Fuzzie Bear

    Arms you have not.

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  144. molly says:

    States facts Yoda does
    (heh heh)

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  145. molly says:

    I can mush the poultice with me feet and stomp it on 😉

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  146. Yoda says:

    I can mush the poultice with me feet and stomp it on 😉

    A winemaker also you are?

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  147. To further complicate matters, his wife liky only wants things on the wild side during certain points of her cycle, namely ovulation. At other times such an approach might not be welcomed when a more tender one would. I don’t envy men having to sift thru these tea leaves when dealing w women, but if one is going to tango, best to know the steps and how to take the lead. Letting her lead means letting her hormones lead both of you… Not good!

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  148. SFC Ton says:

    When going through my divorce one of the many issues of abuse I was guilty of was….. establishing a budget/ restricting how she spent money.

    These days, everything is abuse so nothing is abuse

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  149. @ ton I have heard of that. And restricting access to money can be used as an abuse tactic but I think setting a budget is hardly that! Insanity, the whole thing these days!

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  150. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    SFC Ton,
    Having heard how family courts operate, I have no truble believing you. That any attorney woulld try it or, any judge would hear it is something for Rod Serling to write. It’s that crazy.

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  151. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I have to wonder what a judge in family court would think of a husband spanking his wife after hearing what Ton had to say.

    Hearing about modern marriage and divorce, as a single guy, the downsides keep getting worse and worse.
    It’s not very encouraging.

    Something more encouraging.

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  152. @ fuzzie….yeah I don’t know how to explain it any better, done right she won’t be calling the courts in… She’ll be happily whipping up sammiches. Or crawling thru broken glass. And btw the time at set the dynamic is before one ever needs to. Not that it can’t still derail but played on tune a happy wife it makes! Ah the mystery of it all… Rational male gets it.

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  153. Oh and trigger warning, whoops!

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  154. Tarnished says:

    Trigger for Yoda

    That page Bloom linked to is pretty standard bdsm stuff. Being the sub is fun, but it’s also great to be the dom. Switching it up may not be for everyone…but it comes highly recommended. 😉

    And of course, this isn’t for every time! Even d/s sex would get boring if it was the only meal on your plate, lol.

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  155. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I went there. You do realize that fembots would be violently opposed to this ooncept? I have heard that, in person and behind closed doors, they are very much different. H/T Hipster Racist.
    Now, I have to do something besides scratching my head.

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  156. Spawny Get says:

    Done right vs domestic abuse via controlling behaviour is Russian Roulette.

    It might be worth trying to save a marriage your already trapped in, but it’s bananas to go into a marriage gambling that you’ll keep her happy for the rest of your life.

    Given the legal system, I’m amazed that marriage is still a thing. If the antics of family court were known by men before any ltr, it would all be dead.

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  157. SFC Ton says:

    LOL I have never had a woman leave my bed because I was to rough

    Had some decide not to come back but they were still dripping while it was going on

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  158. Spawny Get says:

    If you have any understanding of UK politics be prepared to laugh your tits off

    Having had a terrible general election due to being utterly clueless about the realities of the people. Labour is dropping useless prat Ed Miliband and it looks like electing a delusional class warrior from the seventies, slightly to the left of Lenin. He appeals to other delusional fuckwit lefties, but any sane people can see he’s a loon living in the past. He only got put on the ballot to ‘broaden the debate’. A charitable gesture to the far left. Now it looks like he might win.

    They’re in the bath with the cutthroat razor and they’ve started with some trial cuts. You beauties!

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  159. Spawny Get says:

    And the clip shows why I prefer male presenters. The women are tripping over themselves and talking over each other. Amateur hour on the BBC flagship daily news program.

    On the daily politics show…
    Andrew Neil interrupts when the politicians dodge the questions, his copresenter does it all the time, to no purpose, even when her own question is being addressed.

    Bring back the men.

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  160. Cill says:

    People of spawnyspace, Farm Boy and others, take heed! Be warned advised that an extraordinary meeting has taken place between Miss World finalists my sisters, molly, and sundry other female cuzzies. I heard the sounds of jollity, animated chatter and much laughter, but when they emerged hours later they assured me the outcome of the meeting will be a post titled “Wisdom of the Ages”. Be prepared.

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  161. As a disclaimer, remember the context: they are already married. Have kids. She’s whatever enough to want to open up their marriage and cuckhold him. Why? Because she wants someone (him ideally) to put a stop to it.

    As Tarn said, it’s not every gals cup of tea and of course not first date stuff. But most women will respond to such drama, female erotica is rife with it. Better to help her act it out safely and in tease bonding at the same time.

    Desperate times call for desperate measures. Certainly better than the scnerio presented.

    And yes fuzzie, those you’d think most opposed likely would be the first in line. There’s a reason women fear men being dominant – it’s their Achilles heel.

    I am just trying to help… Not tryong to offend anyone. Perhaps this belongs on the excitement
    post?

    Ya’ll would be shocked how many unhaaaapy women have told me this is what they secretly long for. .

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  162. Sumo says:

    Anyone else kinda sorta maybe a wee bit scared right now?

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  163. As with all things, frame has to be right. Best to test the water before plunging in as well, it’s easily done with a little creativity.. If she melts, proceed, if she gets tensed up, act like you were kidding, plausable deniability (i heard women were into 50 shades of grey, but if not thats cool, my bad.) then back it off.

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  164. Lol sumo! Sorry!

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  165. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Scared, who me?

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  166. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I did date a gal who said that she was into it but, she wanted to put the handcuffs on me. I never got to find out.

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  167. Her putting handcuffs on him is a whole different thing… I imagine its not so much a male fantasy… Think war bride fantasy, guys find that idea ummm… not so much…

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  168. Cill says:

    LOL Sumo is not scared of a bit of game Bloom! He was talking about something else (or I’m a fat Chinaman and not a svelte Kiwi)

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  169. Ok maybe I have said too much already so I will end on this note: there is *fantasy* (fun!) and then there is consentual role play (fun!) and then there is reality (not fun.) a woman w such ca tidies does not want to actually be accosted. It’s “a game.”

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  170. Yeah I figured Cill! Lol. Sumo could probably tell it better than I could!

    I didn’t design the machine. I just own one! Lol.

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  171. Tarnished says:

    Bloom,

    Well said. People sometimes forget that fantasies can be fun because they could be enjoyed irl *or* just in one’s mind. Thinking about X doesn’t necessarily mean you actually want to do X.

    Fuzzie,

    Seems you missed out… 😉

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  172. Cill says:

    Well I’m with you, Bloom. I know what you’re saying. FWIW.

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  173. Tarnished says:

    Btw, Fuzz-meister, I’m just joking. Not all guys…probably most…aren’t into having a game of Mistress.

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  174. Cill says:

    I don’t think I’d be too keen to whack a bear’s arse with a pair of scented bootlaces…

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  175. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tarn,
    I did tease her that the whole purpose of the exercise was to get me to promise to perform household chores.
    I broke it all off for bigger reasons.

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  176. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post.

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  177. Tarnished says:

    Scented bootlaces…?!
    Damn, Cill. You kinky Kiwi bastard! 😀
    Who said anything about whacking anyone’s arse, anyway? It’s far more fun to tease and tantalize a restrained guy than to flog or paddle him.

    You here…you’re all too “out there” for me. 😉

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  178. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,

    Chores? Bleh. Boring!
    Sorry it had to be broken off, but if you say so it was likely for the best.

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  179. Cill says:

    I should’ve put a trigger warning on it. Damn, sorry Tarn.

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  180. Sumo says:

    For the record, I may or may not be slightly nervous at the thought of Molls and her female relatives conspiring to edumacate the rest of us.

    Re: handcuffs – during my LEO career, I was the head of training for my organization, which meant I was responsible for teaching folks how to do takedowns, beat dirtbags with metal stick, and, of course, apply handcuffs.

    I may or may not have used the handcuffing techniques during certain personal endeavors, which may or may not have resulted in sopping panties and some superb, freaky-ass sex. 😉

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  181. Cill says:

    Knew you wouldn’t let me down, bro.

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  182. Omg Sumo!!! Like tmi! 😉

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  183. You people are all freaks! !!! For shame!!!

    Kidding, of course. 😉

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  184. Sumo says:

    Bloomer, Bloomer, Bloomer……you know that my may-or-may-not-be-true story made you tingle. 😉

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  185. @ sumo I was not doubting it until you put that out there! Frame, bro, frame!!!

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  186. SFC Ton says:

    It’s every girls cup of tea if your frame is strong enough.

    Smack her on the ass and say mine/ lay ownership etc

    Kiss her cleavage before her/ say hi to her tits before looking her in the eye and saying hi

    Tell her she is not allowed to cum without permission

    Hand around her throat when you kiss her(better yet, don’t kiss her, make her work for the kiss)

    Pin her arms behind her back and grope her at random

    Etc etc.

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  187. Spawny Get says:

    Ton,
    Probably needed a trigger warning before the ‘etc etc’

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  188. SFC Ton says:

    LOL the byline Ton is the trigger warning…..

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  189. There are many variations to the game, too. I would not abide a man doing such things in public (the tamer stuff of course.) He’d probably get smacked (plausible deniability.) meanwhile, other gals may get off on public displays. And it’s all situational, as well. That’s why these sorts of games are best played long term IMHO, stretched out over time. But then again, others may disagree. Individual results may vary.

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  190. SFC Ton says:

    Girl#1 walks up to me when we’re in my bar

    I say howdy girls to her boobs and kiss her cleavage

    She gets that look women get when they are wet, mad and trying not to laugh

    Then she slaps me

    I laugh

    All the other chicks are damp in the pants

    All based on frame…. and covered last night

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