World Views — Part I


A book that has had a particularly large impact on me is this one,

Every person has a world view.  It is just a question of what it is.  In my case, it it an INTX driven reality based logical one.  And as such, I have always had trouble understanding why other people think and behave the way that they do.  Yet, often these seemingly inexplicable attitudes and behaviors make sense if one considers the subject’s world view.  Dalrymple first focuses on what a world view is,

Human behavior cannot be explained without references to the meaning and intentions people give to their acts and omissions; and everyone has a Weltanschauung, a worldview, whether he knows it or not.  It is the ideas that my patients have that fascinate — and, to be honest appall me: for they are the source of their misery.

And then he explains how it works for the underclass.  A large part of their world view is of being victims that are helpless,

The idea that one is not agent but helpless victim of circumstances, or of large occult sociological or economic forces does not come naturally, as an inevitable concomitant of experience.  On the contrary, only in extreme circumstances is helplessness directly experienced in the way that blueness of the sky is experienced.  Agency, by contrast, is the common experience of us all.

World views of the underclass are often of convenience, accepted because they “feel good”, are self-serving and authorities say that they are true.

The contrary idea, however, has been endlessly propagated by intellectuals and academics who do not believe it themselves, of course, but only of others less fortunately placed than themselves.  In there is a considerable element of condescension: that  some people do not measure up fully to the status of human. The extension of term addiction, for example, to cover any undesirable but nonetheless gratifying behavior that is repeated, is one example of denial of personal agency that has swiftly percolated downward from academe.

In fact most of the social pathology exhibited by the underclass has its origins in the ideas that have filtered down from intelligentsia.  Of nothing is this more true than the system of sexual relations that now prevails in the underclass, with the result that 70% of the births in my hospital are now illegitimate.

Literature and common sense attest that sexual relations between men and women have been fraught with difficulty down the ages precisely because man is conscious social being who bears a culture, and is not merely a biological being.  But intellectuals in the twentieth century sought to free our sexual relations of all social, contractual, or moral obligations and meaning what so ever, so that henceforth only raw sexual desire itself would count in our decision-making.

The intellectuals were about as sincere as Marie Antoinette when she played the shepherdess.  While their own sexual mores no doubt became more relaxed and liberal, they nonetheless continued to recognize inescapable obligations with regard to children, for example.  Whatever they said, they did not want a complete breakdown of family relations.  If anybody wants to see what sexual relations are like, freed of contractual and social obligations, let him look at the chaos of the personal lives of members of the underclass.

But of course, not all world views that are of the underclass.   There are middle class views, upper class vies, liberal views, conservative views, etc.   They all try to explain the world (and the more successful ones take into account the issues of human nature).

The take-away is that everybody develops a world view (often with outside help).  And these are often internally mostly consistent.  But that does not mean that they model the world effectively, for often their basis is mostly wrong (e.g. feminism).  And poor world views cause problems for everyone.

So as Lenin asked, “What is to be done”?

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52 comments on “World Views — Part I
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Inj the early Soviet Union, there was a lot of experimenting going on with sexual mores. NOt that Lenin ever said those words in reference to this, it was Stalin who answered. His answer was to return to conventional mores. At the time, the Societ Union was isolated and had no friends. They had to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Forget wasting time or enrgy promoting feminist ideals.

    That lesson from history has been buried.

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “In fact most of the social pathology exhibited by the underclass has its origins in the ideas that have filtered down from intelligentsia. Of nothing is this more true than the system of sexual relations that now prevails in the underclass, with the result that 70% of the births in my hospital are now illegitimate.”

    I am having a lot of trouble with this. While I can see male participants sucked in for recreational sex, in this day where women have toatal reproductive control once inseminated, a seventy percent illegetimate birth rate is not mere negligence, it’s deliberate. The only thing that allows this to continuie is that men are coerced to pay child support.

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    You put a lot into this post. I wish that the thread had taken off.
    While I agree that everyone has a worldview, in mentioning feminists, I have to ask, how do they function in real life with a worldview so flawed?

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  4. Farm Boy says:

    I have to ask, how do they function in real life with a worldview so flawed?

    It is funny that you ask that. I touch on the subject in tomorrow’s post.

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    in this day where women have total reproductive control once inseminated, a seventy percent illegitimate birth rate is not mere negligence, it’s deliberate.

    Read the book, and you will have an answer.

    Short answer — because they want a child. Something to love, and something to love them. But it often does not work out that way for the underclass

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    In the early Soviet Union, there was a lot of experimenting going on with sexual mores.

    Why don’t you write a guest post on that?

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  7. Farm Boy says:

    That lesson from history has been buried.

    There are many things buried in the former Soviet Union.

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  8. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “There are many things buried in the former Soviet Union.”
    Brrrrrrrr. Bear is shivering. Brrrrrrrrrr.

    A mass grave was discovered in Riga, Latvia some years ag. All the investigators dreaded going over one more instance of Stalin’s purges or the Great Patriotic War. As it turned out, the site was much older, dating back to Napoleon’s retreat from Moscow. They were much more interested.

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  9. molly says:

    In my world view feminism is a disease that grew out of woman’s natural group bias against males. My world view tells me why the countries of the “West” are in decline. It tells me, if we want to find who is really to blame, look for the ones who blame everything on the men of the West. Look at the women.

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    While I can see what you’re saying and agree, the natural group bias is counterproductive. It’s like the wheels on the left side of the wagon are mad at the wheels on the right. Maybe I am thinking like a man on this.

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  11. Liz says:

    “The only thing that allows this to continuie is that men are coerced to pay child support.”

    I’m betting Joe taxpayer is the main child supporter, not Joe-has-eight-baby-mamas (the typical underclass sperm provider…that 70 percent most likely didn’t come from 70 percent of the males in the random working class and/or affluent population).

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  12. Liz says:

    “In the early Soviet Union, there was a lot of experimenting going on with sexual mores.”

    That’s the way it was in the late Weimar Republic as well. Seems to be a common theme for societies in decline.

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  13. SFC Ton says:

    What is to be done? Well the solution is rather straightforward but will never be done. Lack of willpower is the issue at hand.

    I live among underclass negroes. They don’t really function. Of the families around me, all are on some form of government assistance, only in one case is the disability legit(his hip was crushed while on active duty) & that is the only intact family, with intact grandparents etc. Even in that family, one son has an out of wedlock child the grandparents are raising and that son did 15 years for robbing, dealing etc.

    They make poor decisions all the way around and the govt keeps them from paying the price of it. Lot of ratchets in the same house, no doubt all claiming some version of rent/ utility assistance plus wic and all that. Then they push for some sort of disability ( one ratchet has the ptsd though no combat time or what not so she is on disability as well as everything else). Once the girls have the govt money, they become the target of various dudes hussuel; they don’t get much out of them but two or three chicks like that plus the money they have come in and what ever side money they get funds a modest lifestyle or drinking cheap beer, little weed and living with their mom.

    When they do “better” themselves, they fuck it all up. The intact family I know, the mother/ wife went to a historically black college, racking up the bills. Now, she cannot get a job, mostly because that college’s academic record is shit ( as in bad enough the state pulled some of its programs and took over the nursing program in its entirety). Instead of recognizing the mistake in selecting a historically black college they break out the racism card and double down on it by sending her to get a masters.

    They refuse to listen to advice from the three White families living here because we’re White; most common topic of conversation, out side of discussing everyone’s drama and dysfunction is how to get more govt money or some low grade side work like trying to sneak in and sell beer at the race track.

    They live in what amounts to a wholly separate world as well. The only news the trust is from BET and the like. They believe lies like it’s the gospel (like White folks have a different and better welfare systems, Egyptians that built those monuments were black with scify type technology etc etc). Some ratchet will say the govt gave her extra money for xyz to explain her new tv(vs owning up to turning tricks or dealing) & everyone of them gets on the bus to the social services building and thinks the county clerks are lying when denied instead of looking twice at the ratchet.

    It is probably not possible to understand the systematic level of dysfunction and profound lack of intelligence (brain power and information) among lower class blacks.

    Which doesn’t address the legit economic issues which impact poor folks at an alarming rate, like immigration, stagnate wages, no growth in jobs, automation replacing entry level jobs where they could gain general employment skillz etc etc

    None of this will ever be addressed. The lies that keep the bullshit spining is easier to digest then the ugly truth.

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  14. thedeti says:

    “Inj the early Soviet Union, there was a lot of experimenting going on with sexual mores”

    J4G’s Han Solo did a post on that a while back.

    http://www.justfourguys.com/red-pill-russia-hypergamy-and-polygynous-cads-unleashed-in-the-early-soviet-union/

    Summing up: Early Bolshevik Russia, later consolidated into the USSR, liberalized divorce and abortion laws. No fault divorce. Child support laws.

    What was the result?

    Wives divorcing husbands on a whim.

    Rampant polygamy among the attractive men. Attractive men divorcing wives on a whim.

    A “small cadre of cads” impregnating a larger number of women. Attractive men engaging in soft harems, sexual hoarding of women.

    Confiscatory child support.

    Bastardy.

    Single motherhood.

    Destruction of families.

    Demoralized beta men, unable or unwilling to work. Unwilling to marry.

    Alcoholism and drug abuse.

    Alpha widowhood.

    Gold diggers (Alpha Fux, Beta Bux).

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one. Any of this sound familiar?

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  15. Yoda says:

    feminists, I have to ask, how do they function in real life with a worldview so flawed?

    Rules stacked in their favor they do have.

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  16. Yoda says:

    look for the ones who blame everything on the men of the West.

    Like to blame they sure do.
    Easiest way to escape responsibility it is.

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  17. Yoda says:

    Deti,

    Natural state when no rules there are.
    Wonder if women like that state I do.

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  18. Spawny Get says:

    A different world view…

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  19. missattempts says:

    Dear SFC Ton:
    You say you live among lower class blacks and have not yet had the crap
    beaten out of you as shown on the Colin Flattery YOU-TUBE channel? Lucky you!
    People’s idenities are accquired. The MIND must be persuaded. This is how a PIMP
    operates. An actor. A politican. A salesman. Women are especially suseptible to this.
    I read a pimp’s blog site, and he said he could take a bag of poop, and make a woman
    think it smelled like a rose. Does Europe have a problem with “Loverboys?”
    Sociopaths are expert at doing this. Like the two prisoners in upstate N.Y. that
    enjoyed a few weeks of freedom. You could put a sociopath (If he’s good looking)
    deep into the prison system, and he’s still a sex magnet.
    Today’s western world is mush. The white race will go extinct because it has no
    backbone.
    “To the victors go the spoils.” She will have blond hair and blue eyes.

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  20. Liz says:

    ‘The Nicest Most Dependable Guy In the World’ was the title of a chick lit best seller, never.

    But neither was ‘Pimpin’ Mah Hos!!’

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  21. Liz says:

    Sometimes I wonder if people who say black men have it made in the shade with blonde pussy, have ever seen these women.

    Look at what Ice T, with ‘fat stacks so hiz dime don’t bounce!” gets. Cocoa is unbelieveably hideous, and she’s the creme de la creme.

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  22. Yoda says:

    chick lit

    Classified as literature it is?

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  23. Yoda says:

    But neither was ‘Pimpin’ Mah Hos!!’

    Sure of this you are?

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  24. Liz says:

    “Sure of this you are?”

    Yes. Go to a chick lit “romance” section of the bookstore and take a looksy. If you see one best selling (or even well selling) novel espousing the hawtness of ghetto culture, I’ll eat my pink feature boa.

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  25. Liz says:

    Or froggy hat.

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  26. Liz says:

    “Sometimes I wonder if people who say black men have it made in the shade with blonde pussy, have ever seen these women.”

    Ii should have added ‘thug culture’ black men, up there. I know black men married to beautiful women, but those men aren’t a part of ghetto culture.

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  27. SFC Ton says:

    No luck involved. Every once in awhile something would come up, I would put them down and life would go on. Doesn’t happen all that often these days and given my profession it doesn’t require much effort.

    Last dipshit had a gmip so one decent shin kick put him down. Took you longer to read that then me to knock him down

    Yea I don’t personally know a black dude married to a high quality White woman. Even the guy I know who played in the NFL or his friend who played in the NBA. seems to work the other way around, but it’s a small sample size, to small to put much stock on it

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  28. Liz says:

    I’ve been thinking more about ‘Pimpin’ Mah Hoes!!’ while sitting at the DMV this morning, and believe this idea could work.
    But it would have to be a picture book…with popups!

    Also, when you set the book down it could go up and down like one of those pimp cars driving on the highway.
    On each page would be a hidden piece of bling.
    There could be scratch and sniff inhalants on the pages, and at least one collector’s item.
    Something along the lines of, “buy four books and get all of these pieces to make your own personal prison shanking tool!”

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  29. Yoda says:

    It is the ideas that my patients have that fascinate — and, to be honest appall me: for they are the source of their misery.

    If understand this people could.
    Much better the world would be.

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  30. Yoda says:

    so that henceforth only raw sexual desire itself would count in our decision-making.

    Odd that these people did see the problem not.
    Perhaps intentionally blind they were.
    If so, moral they are not.

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  31. Yoda says:

    Whatever they said, they did not want a complete breakdown of family relations.

    For us elites, nothing too good for our children there would be.
    For the poor, us elites care not.

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  32. Yoda says:

    Elites much damage they have done.
    Own up to it ever they will?

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    Liz, is the DMV the right place to take drugs? One feels forced to ask

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  34. Yoda says:

    DMV the perfect place for creative juices to flow?

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    Liz, your ‘eating the frog helmet’ comment had me loling. It seems likely you’re having a good day.

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  36. Liz says:

    Inhalents don’t show up on a drug screen, Swithy.
    And they kill brain cells perfect for the DMV (both for working there and frequenting there). Sniff more glue!

    Yes, the clientel made me think very creatively.
    My ‘Tap A Hoe’ hood series is on the way! You can say you knew me way back when…

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  37. Yoda says:

    It seems likely you’re having a good day

    Gravitar changed not it has.

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  38. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti at 2:15pm,
    Yes, it was all that and, yes, it does sound familiar. That all this became commonplace so quickly and went by the wayside after Lenin’s death, is remarkable too.
    Have you seen or heard of Han recently?

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  39. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Liz,
    Please don’t eat your froggy hat. I’m finally getting used to it.
    As for child upport, it’s my understand that once the babymama applies for welfare, they are chasing down the reported father to recover a portion of what is paid out.
    Somehow, I can’t see you writing romance.

    Spawny Get,
    I am still laughing at that tl;dr video. There are people out there that are like that. Thank goodness they don’t try to work.

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  40. Yoda says:

    Han in next Star Wars movie he is.
    Out Christmastime it will be.

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    I don’t know enough about what happened in the early Soviet Union to speak with authority. It is, however, a remarkable glimpse into history and decades before birth control. That people went crazy so quickly and that it was brought to heel so quickly is remarkable.

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic. I just saw this and had to share. Canada missed out on the housing crash in 2008 and prices have been going up to bubble levels, especially in Toronto. I have to agree with Sandman. Hypergamy is driving the market.

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    “After we moved in here my ex would randomly stand out in the yard in his underwear… into the air.”
    Always treasure the good times.

    That behaviour might attract attention at Spawny’s Achers (one’s country abode)

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    “That behaviour might attract attention at Spawny’s Achers”
    Not necessarily in a good way either.

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  45. […] redpillgirlnotes on World Views — Part I […]

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  46. Yoda says:

    New post there is

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  47. @ Liz I want to buy your very first book sold in this brilliant new series! Promise??? 🙂

    @ spawny treasure the good times! Oh vay, I actually wrote a post about how misunderstood that caveman was by his then wife. I used to read him the riot act for doing stuff like that! (Oops! I cringe to admit it.)

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  48. Liz says:

    As long as you promise not to put it on your coffeetable, Bloom.
    Some of those popups won’t be appropriate for children. 😛

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  49. […] here pretty much believe in the general correctness of our world view.  We believe that we have facts and logic on our side.  We are willing to explain the situation to […]

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