How Much is Enough?


How much is enough for wives?  Women have a natural inclination to procure and lock down resources, be it money, material, or services.  People in general often have a desire to hoard, which might come in handy from time to time (and possibly in the near future).  And of course, modern women in general often have a strong sense of entitlement.

Combine all of these together, and the result is often a home-life built around the wife procuring resources, with the husband bearing the brunt of this.  Very likely this leads to unhappy husbands, unhappy wives, and unhappy children.  This is obviously an unhealthy situation.

The obvious question would be how to avoid this problem.  And the follow up question is. “How much is enough?”  First consider what the resources are ostensibly for: the welfare of the children.  But once above a basic level, the children are pretty much taken care of.  Additional resources have a much smaller marginal rate of return with respect to the children’s welfare.  If one is rich, then they can and will pay the money required for increased child welfare (e.g. boarding schools, Harvard).  But those that are not rich must make decisions.  They should decide how best to spend resources, and when done with that, not pine for more.  For trying to squeezed every last drop out undoes the good that one is supposedly trying to gain.

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233 comments on “How Much is Enough?
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Can modern women be content?

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/14/im-sooo-bored-of-being-gay/

    All the best sex – in fact, all the best things in life – are transgressive and naughty. But there’s a problem when forbidden fruits go mainstream. When you teach yourself to be excited solely by transgressive acts, and end up only really happy when you’re breaking rules or upsetting someone, you’re at the mercy of changing fashions.

    Today, thanks to society’s endless mollycoddling and celebration of “alternative” lifestyles, the joy of rebellion is drying up for me. You see, I only plumped for homosexuality to irritate my parents. But now even they are fine with it. A few years ago, my mum said, perhaps cannily, “All I want is for you to be happy.”

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  3. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    This does go to explaining a lot. I am afraid that the answer is no. What you have brought to light here may be the root cause of the housing bubble. We still haven’t worked that through the economy. Will people start paying on the principle of HELOCs going back that far if their homes are still underwater?

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  4. BuenaVista says:

    Somebody always has a bigger plane. Or, a bigger bank account, a bigger dick, a bigger house, a better resume, a younger wife blah blah blah the fuck blah.

    So. The question is unanswerable. I just tell the kids, “If you can’t be happy in 200 square feet (about 20 square meters, you weird Euros), you’ll never be happy.” Of course, none of them believe me, and that includes my own.

    If anyone were to ask me where and when I was happiest, it was living in a two-room with a bathtub in the kitchen, in a slum in NYC, where I wrote a play at night that later featured Forest Whitaker and my wife slept with me on the floor on a strip of foam, where we fucked like wild animals. In the morning I would wake to the sound of the water boiling, as she would nurture me back to life with Bustelo coffee.

    The important thing is to have a body of work, and set of relationships, that endure beyond death. I like fancy stuff as much as the next guy. But I know, I really know, that I’m only going to sleep every other night irrespective.

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  5. Yoda says:

    Resources for you they are?
    Or resources for the children they are?

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  6. Yoda says:

    Be happy with what you have one can be?
    Or make oneself and others miserable you should?

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  7. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    Are the resources for the advancement of the family or, are they for promoting the ego of the Mommy? My mother succumbed to this.

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  8. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Someone finds something that could dut the incidence of rape in half.
    Feminists object.
    http://www.cotwa.info/2015/06/anti-rape-program-cuts-campus-rape-in.html
    I don’t think advancing the welfare of womenis their primary agenda.

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  9. Yoda says:

    I don’t think advancing the welfare of women is their primary agenda

    Agenda be what it would?

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  10. Yoda says:

    Are the resources for the advancement of the family or, are they for promoting the ego of the Mommy? My mother succumbed to this.

    Played out how this did?

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  11. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    The only one who could have said or done anything effective, my Dad, was bamboozled. We kids saw it and kept our mouths shut.

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  12. Stuff, more stuff, even more stuff! Uh oh, now this stuff is the wrong color, or season, or style. Donate or throw away all that stuff. New stuff more stuff. Same stuff as the neighbor. On TV. Seen on Pinterest. That stuff is old news. More stuff. New stuff. Rinse and repeat. How dull? Life is not about stuff. Like bv says someone else will always have more. Being content with little means you can be content always.

    My mom is a big time shopper. She burned me out on shopping for “stuff” very young. I did not see the upside to this until I was older. Stuff has never defined me, nor have I ever thought stuff made someone better. Stuff is irrelevant, transitory, hollow. That realization is the upside, I guess, of having a mom who shows love through “stuff” and not time or attention. I’ll gladly pass on “stuff” for substance.

    My girls have learned this, too. At Christmas or birthdays, their focus is not “the stuff.” It’s on the traditions, the fun, the festivities, the moment. They never pout that they “didn’t get x, y, z.” thry dont live for stuff. They make me proud, they do! Sniff!

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  13. Meanwhile their grandmother has somehow delivered overcthe years two 2×2 foot boxes worth filled with Barbie dolls, seriously like 40+ Barbie dolls easily, I am not kidding, and yet she has not once ever played Barbie’s with them. Ironically my girls have no interest in Barbie dolls (again, proud, sniff!) but grandma (who lives a 25 minute drive away) doesn’t know them well enough to know that. Stuff means nothing…

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  14. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I like the Bloomettes!
    I had a thought about all the Barbie stuff. By the time they need money for college, it may help to auction it o eBay.

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  15. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    A sad day for movie villians and all who appreciate them.
    http://didactsreach.blogspot.com/2015/06/rip-christopher-lee.html

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  16. Cill says:

    Right now I’m enjoying baked steak done Sumo style. Also fried prawns and onion rings. My wine tonight is the Lochar Estate Pinot Noir, first cut harvest. I know people who would ask me (if they were here), “Why that choice of wine, to have with the steak?” My answer would be: “Because I like it”.

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  17. Cill says:

    P.S. I’m only having wine because I’ve run out of beer

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  18. Cill says:

    I wonder if I should buy a Barbie. I could cloth it, comb its hair, take liberties with it – whatever little girls do with Barbies. I wouldn’t have thought of this bright idea had not a feminist exhorted me earlier today to “get in touch with the feminine aspect of myself”.

    Meanwhile the Sumo recipe is going down a treat. Chomp, munch, munch (sip) munch, munch (sip)
    Eat yer hearts out, people. To hell with Barbie, after this I’m going out with Dog to do some spotlighting on possums (i.e. shoot the bastards)

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  19. @Cill I would be happy to send a herd of Barbie’s your way! Perhaps you could stage a red pillesque you tube video of them going over the cliff? You know, in the name of art! Lol. Seriously…as many as you like…all yours!

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  20. Cill says:

    Bloom, Lochar Estate is on an alluvial fan below karst peaks in Central Otago. The rough soils and cool climate (with the Foehn Winds over the Southern Alps) produce exceptional grapes. Peter Bartle picks them in small batches (mine tonight is “first cut harvest). Superb Pinot Noir.

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  21. Cill says:

    I think Dog would put paid to the barbies before they got anywhere near the edge of the cliff. Dog is something of a psychopath, really. He has a need to kill.

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  22. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    If you can take a drink, red wine with dinner is an excelleny choice. There is something wonderful in it that helps circulation and aids digestion.

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  23. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    What a mental image. All those Barbies leaping off a cliff.

    Cill,
    We had opossums in California and they didn’t cause any problems, aside from being hit by cars.

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  24. Cill says:

    I shall take you literally, Fuzzy. (sip)

    The smart arses I mentioned earlier would try to tell me I should have a Cabinet or Shiraz with steak. I usually answer them with a retort such as “Farts are the ghosts of dinners past”, or something nonsensical like that. It usually shuts them up.

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  25. Cill says:

    In NZ possums are officially a noxious pest. They destroy our native forest and give tuberculosis to our livestock. If we don’t cull them they will make our unique forests disappear – along with a lot of the unique native fauna. It’s every man’s duty to shoot as many of them as he can, which is kinder than the government’s approach of poisoning them with 10-80.

    Just finished my meal. There’s no reason why I should stop sipping the wine though. (sip) Damn that’s good.

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  26. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I don’t see too much wrong. It is a matter of personal preference. The question did not come up until I was a few ears into the job but, someone asked what the domestic equivilent of a French burgundy would be. It’s pinot noir. Confirming this is that it is put into burgundy bottles. Cabernet Sauvignon and Bordeaux go in claret bottles.

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  27. Cill says:

    “Barbies leaping off a cliff”.

    Bloom you’ve given me an idea. I could try some animation. “My” young men could help me…

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  28. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    This can be expanded into whites too. Suavignon Blanc and white Bordeaux go in claret bottles. Chardonnay and white Burgundy in burgundy bottles.

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  29. Cill says:

    Fuzzy you’re right, my Lochar Estate Pinot Noir is in burgundy bottles as you say.

    Getting back to the possums, I’ve done a good job of contolling the pests in my forest. As soon as there’s a sniff of possum or rat or stoat, Dog and I are onto it like a shot. The biggest threat to the fauna is actually the sea birds. Anyone who knows the sea knows that sea birds are some of the most ruthless predators on this planet. Like the Terminator, they never stop.

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  30. Cill says:

    that’s very interesting. Sounds like you are in the wine business Fuzzy. Is wine produced in Indiana?

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  31. Cill says:

    “The question did not come up until I was a few ears into the job”. Struth Fuzzy, I better not tell Molly that bit about the ears. Was it a Freudian slip by you? 😀

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  32. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    There is not much to be done with wine here in Indiana. I did work for a very large retailer in California until the chain closed in 1992.

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  33. @ Fuzzie it had not occurred to me before that sauv blanc was white Bordeaux. Interesting. Did you know Sauvignon blanc (a white) is one of the parents of Cabernet, along with Cabernet franc (a red)? Cabernet franc plus Sauvignon blanc beget Cabernet Sauvignon! Out of random curiosity one day I blended the two 50/50 and sure enough the was very close to Cabernet sauv! Obviously, random and weird things interest me. My mind is filled with trivial pursuit answers! Lol.

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  34. Cill says:

    I can’t be bothered spotlighting possums now. Dog senses my slothful mood and lowers his chin to his paws. It’s just me and Dog and Horse for company now. And… I’m feeling good. It’s a fun life people! Nope I don’t feel the least bit guilty saying that. It bloody well is a fun life for some.

    Back to topic, a lot of people could get more enjoyment out of life if they altered their mindset. The happiest people I’ve met are actually some of the poorest of people in Siberia, North Western Asia, Indonesia and South America. I’m spouting off the place names as a way of saying I’ve been around the block more than a couple of times. The most unhappy people I’ve met are in the most affluent countries, the ones most afflicted with Feminism. The more privileged a section of people become, the more they complain.

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  35. Cill says:

    Am I right in thinking the Sauvignon grape has red skijn and white flesh? The Sauvignon in the red wine (Cabernet Sauvignon) has the skin left on and Sauvignon Blanc has the skin off. As most of the antioxidants are in the skin, the red Sauvignon is better nutritional value than the Sauvignon Blanc. That’s my rather ignorant 2c.

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  36. Cill says:

    It’s close to Super Rugby watching time here. You American lot will all be asleep by now. I raise my glass of Pinot Noir to you. Sleep well folks, and pleasant dreams.

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  37. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    I only heard the Sauvignon Blanc/Cabernet Franc story recently. I had thought that the two were combined into one new grape varietal.
    Cabernet Franc is hard to come by. While most vinters will use it to build up Cabernet Sauvignon, theyt seem ressistant to sell it as its own varietal.

    Cill,
    Years ago, I was watching TV with the household cat and I could hear his cat food getting munched. I looked at him as he looked at me. Some bold opossum had walked into the house to avail himself of the cat’s food.
    Out he went!I may not have telled at him enough because he came back to be seen by someone else. Later, he was trapped in a Hav-a-Hart and a new home was found for him.

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    Partially not completely off topic.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3120571/Twitter-tip-criminals-Edward-Snowden-leaks-scandal.html

    We’ll tell suspects they’re on spy radar, says Twitter: Arrogance of social media bosses who vow to sabotage fight against terrorism
    * Twitter will only keep security service probes secret if compelled by court
    * Technology companies have decided customer ‘privacy’ takes priority
    * Report also warned security services were losing ability to track suspects
    * It was commissioned in the wake of leaks by US traitor Edward Snowden

    Nice one Twitter. No blanket denial of privacy to the public. If they have evidence of legitimate suspicion able to satisfy even the most toe-the-line judge? Fine.

    BTW
    Theresa May is a Tory Blowhard. Her words and her actions? Totally separate. She tries the con that’s she’s an heir to Thatcher, she’s actually just another hot air balloon in ridiculous kitten heels.

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  39. Cill says:

    ” She tries the con that’s she’s an heir to Thatcher, she’s actually just another hot air balloon in ridiculous kitten heels.”
    Bwahaha!

    Half time scores Highlanders 20 Auckland Blues 0

    Highlanders lower average quality player punching as usual well above their weight.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    JtO with ‘A question for women’.
    FTR I doubt the readers with lady-bumps here will find it to be news.

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  41. Cill says:

    Final score Highlanders 44 Auckland Blues 7. The Highlanders are an interesting team. They are the only international team apart from the All Blacks to carry the game of Rugby forward since the 1980s.

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  42. Liz says:

    “My wine tonight is the Lochar Estate Pinot Noir, first cut harvest. I know people who would ask me (if they were here), “Why that choice of wine, to have with the steak?” My answer would be: “Because I like it”.”

    I had no idea that pinot noir was a poor choice for steak. When we lived in Italy Piculit Neri was my favorite and I served it with just about everything. It’s similar to pinot noir.

    (if anyone takes a trip to Northern Italy and wants to buy some wine, this place is awesome and I recommend piculit neri:
    http://www.bulfon.it/eng/vitigni.html

    🙂

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  43. missattempts says:

    People can be happy, but the must access their “higher selves.”
    The higher self is all you need, providing you have food, clothing and shelter.
    “If you can’t be happy without it, you won’t be happy with it.”

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  44. Yoda says:

    People choose to be unhappy they do?

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  45. Yoda says:

    Would people choose to be unhappy if realized that a choice they have?

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  46. Back on topic: perhaps the ancient hunter/gatherer thing is at play too? Women are natural “gatherers” which places like shopping malls exploit? Does shopping for “stuff” somehow satisfy this female urge to gather and hoard extra “stuff” beyond what is immediately needed? Perhaps hunters, who need to travel light, don’t have this urge? Ton mentioned long ago how little a male bachelor needs. And how women complicate life by bringing in “stuff.” Just speculating…

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  47. Yoda says:

    The happiest people I’ve met are actually some of the poorest of people in Siberia, North Western Asia, Indonesia and South America.

    Traveled the Galaxy I have.
    Noticed this also I did.
    Simplicity a virtue it is.
    But more to it there would be?

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  48. Yoda says:

    Women are natural “gatherers” which places like shopping malls exploit?

    True this is.
    But mostly gather useful resources they do?
    A big issue this would be.

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve been told by someone who would know that the decoration in my house is very 2000s. I think that I was supposed to have a reaction other than smiling a friendly ‘whatever’ smile.

    If you think that a single straight guy is going to update the kitchen because the wood doors (that he likes) are sooo yesterday, because today we have wood painted white…(tomorrow might be wood again)…you are completely out of luck. The next house I’m looking at needs a new kitchen. That kitchen will be 90% what I like, with 10% nod towards fashion in order to possibly help make it saleable in the future…if the cost is acceptable.

    When men live on their own, or have balls, you don’t have new kitchens / dining room decor / settees / bedroom furniture every few years. I don;t have a minimalist set up, but I buy what I like if I see something that I like at a price I feel is reasonable.

    Manufacturers of furniture must absolutely fear the death of marriages and co-habitation. Unless she gets to spend his income as well as her own on fripperies…they are cooked.

    I have two lovely big leather settees, barring accidents I expect they’ll see me out.

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  50. BuenaVista says:

    Bloom: ” … heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, etc. it is speculated this is why the French and Italians despite a rich diet (butter, meat, cheese) do not get these illnesses … ‘

    The USDA move in the 1970’s to promote ‘low-fat’ diets was never supported by either science or experience. The explosion in obesity in the USA is an outcome of this low-fat mantra, as everyone began to pound the carbs (and simultaneously consume primarily processed food). Carbs are just sugars, after all.

    Gary Taubes has written extensively on the beneficial role of protein, fat, and greens, and the corruption of the USA food system by agri-interests pushing cash grains and derivatives such as corn fructose. And incidentally, what is called “wheat” today is a hybridized successor to what we grew pre-1960. A lot of people think the grain itself is doing massive damage, and recommend heirloom alternatives.

    Yeah, I’m semi-Paleo. I was pushing 200 when I started, am stabilized now at 180 or so (I’m 6’1″). It took three months and I ate as much as I wished.) I still bake bread, but things like pasta and pizza I reserve solely for cheat days. I haven’t put ice cream, frozen meals, prepared meals (other than canned soup), candy or crap like Gatorade in my cart in years. I might buy a conventional loaf of bread once a month. I do put bacon, eggs, butter, steak, pork, cheese, cottage cheese, and the like in the cart. At my last physical my doctor said I had the highest ‘good’ cholesterol (itself now being skeptically viewed as a health marker by many) figure for a man over 40, that he had ever seen. So he asked me how I ate, and he turned white. Of course, he’s a chubby, and this part of the country considers a 200 pound woman fairly normal.

    Taubes is more than a hack diet theorist. Most of his work is being vindicated now, by working scientists and medical researchers, as well as by observed experience. Basically, he just suggests people eat like our grandparents or great-grandparents did, with maybe a few less pies and cakes.

    “For decades we have been taught that fat is bad for us, carbohydrates better, and that the key to a healthy weight is eating less and exercising more. Yet despite this advice, we have seen unprecedented epidemics of obesity and diabetes. Taubes argues that the problem lies in refined carbohydrates, like white flour, easily digested starches, and sugars, and that the key to good health is the kind of calories we take in, not the number. In this groundbreaking book, award-winning science writer Gary Taubes shows us that almost everything we believe about the nature of a healthy diet is wrong.”

    http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400033462/ref=la_B0034P66MY_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1434120810&sr=1-2

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  51. BuenaVista says:

    His refutation, therefore, of the ‘calories in, calories out’ theory of weight management is probably the most challenging for us to confront. We were all brainwashed.

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  52. Yoda says:

    “A feminist is a woman who lives the life she chooses,” Mrs. Fiorina told a free-market interest group dinner in Washington in speech that was billed as her first major policy address since declaring her candidacy May 5. “A woman may choose to have five children and home-school them. She may choose to become a CEO or run for president.”

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  53. Yoda says:


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    Poor Little Rich Women

    MALIKA FAVRE
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    By WEDNESDAY MARTIN
    MAY 16, 2015
    WHEN our family moved from the West Village to the Upper East Side in 2004, seeking proximity to Central Park, my in-laws and a good public school, I thought it unlikely that the neighborhood would hold any big surprises. For many years I had immersed myself — through interviews, reviews of the anthropological literature and participant-observation — in the lives of women from the Amazon basin to sororities at a Big Ten school. I thought I knew from foreign.

    Then I met the women I came to call the Glam SAHMs, for glamorous stay-at-home-moms, of my new habitat. My culture shock was immediate and comprehensive. In a country where women now outpace men in college completion, continue to increase their participation in the labor force and make gains toward equal pay, it was a shock to discover that the most elite stratum of all is a glittering, moneyed backwater.

    A social researcher works where she lands and resists the notion that any group is inherently more or less worthy of study than another. I stuck to the facts. The women I met, mainly at playgrounds, play groups and the nursery schools where I took my sons, were mostly 30-somethings with advanced degrees from prestigious universities and business schools. They were married to rich, powerful men, many of whom ran hedge or private equity funds; they often had three or four children under the age of 10; they lived west of Lexington Avenue, north of 63rd Street and south of 94th Street; and they did not work outside the home.

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  54. BuenaVista says:

    Yoda, Carly is my favorite, mostly because I was a tech ceo and I like listening to someone who is trained to interact with very, very tough, smart and factual execs, bankers and analysts. but I think she has little chance in a crowded field. It’s a shame because the level of intelligence and verbal acuity required by someone in her career is an order of magnitude higher than it is with buffoon reporters and talking-point politicos. She’s also experienced deep personal tragedy and is a self-made woman with a body of work — not just a relationship with a man that she leverages to plum jobs. She’s religious without being a thumper or demanding that other people subscribe to her values, she’s truly married and not inhabiting a sham arrangement with a serial rapist. With luck she’ll be a VP pick. But at the moment she’s driving around Iowa with a clipboard, and the other guys have tens of millions of dollars.

    ***

    I read Wednesday Martin’s book as I used to live in that neighborhood and know the ethos and demographics and schools racket. (Son #2 still lives on Park Avenue in the 70’s.) However, it’s pretty clear that she fabricated a lot of it, as explained in the NY Post and elsewhere. Also, her Ph.D is not in anthropology but comp lit. So it’s just another ‘narrative.’

    There was no reason for Martin to lie, the reality of the upper east side is sufficiently bizarre. (I once had an urgent parent-teacher conference because my 3 year-old son always raced to the front of the line when it was time for recess. His nursery school cost $30K per year. The teacher requested that we get him counseling with — it just so happened — a good friend who was a child shrink to the neighborhood. And on and on.)

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  55. BuenaVista says:

    “Just shop the outside aisles” is probably the best diet/weight management advice one can give, though I suppose one could get diabetes eating too much fruit.

    I go for cheese flavored ruffles, myself. I used to pick up a tall boy and a bag for my nightly drive home, in DC.

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  56. 🐱 OT Momma cat report: after eating yesterday she disappeared but she came this morning when I called to her and ate her cat food followed by two big dollops of whipped cream (for calories). She’s very thin, has nipples on her belly as if lactating, so either there are kittens stashed somewhere already or they are arriving soon. She doesnt look pregnant but hard to tell as she is so thin. She was quite happy after breakfast, purting loudly and rolling playfully about. Looks like she’s here to stay!

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    Getyerself over to PMAFT
    http://www.antifeministtech.info/category/entitlement-princess-of-the-month/

    Every contender is a cracker, competition is very stiff.

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  58. Yoda says:

    she came this morning when I called to her and ate her cat food

    Like to eat cat food you do?

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  59. Spawny Get says:

    “Like to eat cat food you do?”

    Cheers, Bro. It’s good to spare the load of making such cracks. *knuckle bump*

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  60. Yoda says:

    A cat the patriarch is.
    Like cat food he might?

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    It’s okay for snacking between gazelle

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  62. Cill says:

    Bloom at 2:47 pm “The Pinot you mention,the website says it is pressed off the skin in 4 days, which is rather short”.

    Due to its clear atmosphere, the South Island of NZ has more severe ultra violet than any other inhabitated part of the Earth. Without inquiring into it, I always took this to be the reason for NZ reds being darker in color than the equivalent reds overseas. The Lochar Pinot Noir is a dark red color – about as dark as a Wolf Blass Cabinet Merlot from Australia (I’m comparing the two right now IRL).

    The foregoing is off the top of my head. I’m no expert in wine production. I did look at the ins and outs of a vineyard shortly after I purchased my farm, and decided it would be too much of a commitment in terms of expertise. I’m a one man operation and I spend a lot of time overseas. Production of home brewed beer is a much easier way to go. My own “Draught Downunder” is actually a passable beer (puns intended).

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  63. Spawny Get says:

    it’s going to end in tears
    https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAfNl59JGLwY

    Sargon isn’t very diplomatic, but I think he’s right in that she, or rather he, is still living under the delusions of feminism. When he starts working out the reality he now has…then the tears start. Feminists of both sexes have little to no idea what being a man is actually like.

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  64. Spawny Get says:

    Copied from the last thread

    You guys* Americans are weird
    A Big Slobbery Welcome To My Newest Trans-Black Sister, Rachel Dolezal

    As if this wasn’t amazing enough, there are signs that the BAB (“Black At Birth”) community, referred to in the established social justice literature as “cis-raced,” is also beginning to accept their “stealthy soul brothers”, the trans-blacks – or, as one brave sista refers to herself, transn—-rs.

    Rachel Dolezal became a national sensation in the US on Thursday after local news stations KXLY and KREM reported stories about her trans-blackness, which was later picked up by Buzzfeed and spread throughout the internet faster than a trans-black who hears a police siren.

    Dolezal is the real deal when it comes to trans-blackness. A less enlightened writer might suggest she has gone full native. She has apparently altered her appearance through atomic tanning sessions and a pact with the devil for kinky hair – which, ironically, cis-black women spend their entire lives fighting against – all in an effort to embrace her inner blackness and reject her German and Czech dead-ethnicities.

    (*’guys’ is now defined as being sexist…sorry)

    also

    You Think Being Trans-Black is Bad, Rachel Dolezal? Wait Till You Hear About My Problem…

    The problem is this: I was born Trans Class.

    Imagine how it feels to stare into your bathroom mirror every day and to see, reflected back, not the extravagantly be-sideburned, gimlet-eyed, red-cheeked aristocrat you know you really are, but just the pallid, gaunt features of a middle-middle-class nobody struggling to make a living, just like all the “little people”.

    Imagine waking up, not in the four-poster-bed that has been in the family for generations and which its rumoured Anne Boleyn once slept in, but just a fairly ordinary pocket-sprung number you picked up ten years ago from a boring high street chain with some name like SlumberWorld or DreamLand or Bed-U-Like.

    Imagine the stabbing agony you experience every day when you realise that nothing you ever do – NOTHING – is ever going to alter the fact that you will never have a foxhunt bearing your name (like the Duke of Beaufort does), that neither you nor in all likelihood your children, will ever inherit a 52 bedroom Baroque palace with 5,000 acres of parkland landscaped by Capability Brown and swarming with unusual-looking sheep, rare-breed cattle and exotic deer which your ancestor brought back from the Forbidden City in Peking.

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  65. Cill says:

    Spawny I can’t use your link at 7:40. It throws up the “unusual traffic from your computer network” warning from Google. Does this happen to others when they try to follow the link? When sent from my network at least, it seems that the url looks like an automated request.

    [Cill self edit: Ah I see, at the time I tried to follow the link you were still working on the comment. I should’ve looked at the url more closely]

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    Yeah, I messed up cleaning up the e-mailed to me version of the link.

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  67. Spawny Get says:

    Whoa
    Just getting to the end of the first episode of the French series ‘The Returned’. Remade by the Americans. Remake was okay (seen series one), but the original series is waaaaay darker. Les revenents
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2521668

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  68. Spawny Get says:

    Got to the end of episode one. Make that WAAAAAAY darker.

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  69. Cill says:

    “I was born Trans Class”

    BWAHAHAHA!

    Me ditto.

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  70. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, get on Netflix and watch the French ‘The Returned’. It’s subtitled, but it’s worth it. The American version kept the mystery, but this one is way spookier.

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  71. Cill says:

    “Watching Movie Here. Do Not Disturb. Interrupt at Peril of your Life”

    (heh heh. Not really. If you’re a sexy broad feel free to interrupt any time you like. 😄 )
    lol

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  72. Spawny Get says:

    I’m watching the 2012 remake French series, not the 2004 French film.

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  73. Sumo says:

    “Watching Movie Here. Do Not Disturb. Interrupt at Peril of your Life”

    Cill? Hey Cill! Cill, you got a minute? CILL!!!

    The Mighty Sumo laughs in the face of danger. And talks trash about it behind its back.

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  74. Yoda says:

    BV like to post in near future he would?

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  75. Yoda says:

    Anybody like to post in the near future they would?

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  76. BuenaVista says:

    I’ve been thinking of writing about physical recovery/rebirth, and its effects in the SMP, but I’m struggling with the confessional aspects. (I’m trying to move on from personal tales, and not very successfully.) It would simply be a personal memoir of recovery from shoulda-been-dead. And probably too long. I would be happy to contribute something else, Yoda, that you consider me able to discuss.

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    Moi? Je n’ai rien. A demain, mes braves

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  78. Cill says:

    Spit it out in English Spawny, why doncha 😉

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  79. Spawny Get says:

    me? I have nothing. Till tomorrow, my good friends.

    I’m watching froggy tv. I’m having flash backs. Well chuffed that I can catch some of it, especially as they’re not enunciating clearly and are going at full on attack speed.

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  80. Yoda says:

    Any topic good for BV it would be.
    Different perspectives valuable they are

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  81. Cill says:

    Kiwi breakthrough.

    “Wheelchair users might one day be able to walk again thanks to groundbreaking medical research… It could also be used to treat other inflammatory disorders such as strokes, traumatic brain injuries, diabetes and obesity as well as Alzheimers and Parkinson’s disease”:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/69333330/royal-zara-phillips-praises-kiwi-research-into-spinal-injuries

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  82. Yoda says:

    This thread a bear video needs it does

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  83. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    Why is it that Mama Bears don’t ask for a whole lot and Mama humans can’t stop asking for …

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  84. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    As for a post, Spawny linked this last night and it may be the best work JtO has ever written. A one paragraph introduction and we are off to the races.

    He does tend to exaggerate. I can’t see businesses turning away female patronage and there are legal problems with not hiring women.
    However, the sense that I am getting is that the general public is losing patience with feminist antics.

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  85. Spawny Get says:

    Skin colour by atomic uv lamp $250
    Pant suit by PoorFit $50
    Hair by Mr Whippy…priceless

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/06/12/everything-you-need-to-know-about-transracial-hero-rachel-dolezal/

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  86. Liz says:

    Chinese hackers gained access to the sensitive background information submitted by intelligence and military personnel for security clearances. Good grief.

    http://news.yahoo.com/union-says-federal-workers-fell-victim-hackers-071851098–politics.html

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  87. Yoda says:

    Cuomo screened the film for a private audience at the Lincoln Center last week, and promoted his “Enough is Enough” strategy for combating campus sexual assault. His proposal would make “yes means yes” consent standards the law of the land for all New York colleges and universities — including private universities.

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  88. Liz says:

    Here’s another, more informative article (from my link above) from Wired for anyone interested:

    http://www.wired.com/2015/06/opm-breach-security-privacy-debacle/

    “Although reports are conflicting about how the OPM discovered the breach, it took investigators four months to uncover it, which means the EINSTEIN system failed. According to a statement from the OPM, the breach was found after administrators made upgrades to unspecified systems. But the Wall Street Journal reported today that the breach was actually discovered during a sales demonstration by a security company named CyTech Services (paywall), showing the OPM its forensic product.

    There are also some questions now about the number of people affected by the breach. Bloomberg and the Associated Press report that the figure may be closer to 14 million—affecting not only current and federal employees but also military, intelligence and government contractor staff going back to the 1980s. But others are disputing this.”

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  89. Liz says:

    Maybe we should just cut out the “middle men” and ask the Chinese to screen for our security clearances.

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  90. BuenaVista says:

    They have “Hillary’s” emails, of course. I say “Hillary’s” because if one of us transmitted and destroyed top secret State and WH and DoD information via private server, we’d be in federal prison.

    And of note is that the “personal information” for anyone with a clearance, that they have, is not just name, address, and social security #. It’s everyone you’ve ever worked with, it’s everyone you’ve ever slept with, it’s polygraph-derived info on your weird personal habits, it’s a precis on your personal spending patterns and behavior.

    One of the things that would amaze your average civilian is how dull, stupid, and lazy 99% of the intelligence community employees are. It would amaze you. As someone recently said in the WashPost, “Think middle schoolers with clearances.” In truth, I have known middle schoolers (the children of my staff) who have much higher quantitative skills.

    The Chief Technology Officer of a three letter agency once told me he lacked *anyone* on his staff qualified to evaluate our technology (I don’t want to say what it was because I don’t want to out myself — but it was central to their counter-terrorism function). That meant that he had no one on staff who could even *formulate* a solution to the problem we solved, which was easily in the top-3 list of problems they are supposed to be solving. Which meant that a three-letter agency had no one capable of conversation about a class of mathematics that any PhD candidate in physics or math understands, at any decent university (Not just CalTech or MIT). So since they couldn’t articulate the problem they had, much less evaluate the mathematics of its solution, the core mission of this agency was subverted to … collect data, which they were unable to incorporate in unified warehouse. But it got a lot of guys to a no-stress retirement point.

    I’d go on but it’s unbelievable unless you’ve been in the room with these people.

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  91. BuenaVista says:

    More on the OPM. If you have a clearance, they have your records, which they kindly provided the hackers:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/11/china-s-spies-hit-the-blackmail-jackpot-with-every-data-on-federal-worker.html

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  92. Liz says:

    I don’t know if it was appropriate to ‘like’ your post BV, since it’s so disturbing, but I hit the like anyway.
    We need a ‘interesting/informative’ button. 🙂

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  93. Spawny Get says:

    Just line your frog helmet with tin foil, Liz. It won’t change the competence of our security system, but at least it’ll keep the aliens out of your bonce.

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  94. Liz says:

    My froggie helmet is made of tin foil, Swithy! 😛

    (but I only wear tin foil on the head. Never go full tin foil!)

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  95. BuenaVista says:

    Now another 4 mm records have been added to the exposed list. So we’re pushing 18 mm.

    A whole lot of people are about to be blackmailed. Correction: a whole lot of people ARE being blackmailed, already.

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  96. Cill says:

    Listen to them
    The Children of the Night
    What sweet music they make.

    (Bella Lugosi)

    4:48 a.m. here.

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    I used to be a werewolf, but I’m alright nooooooww

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  98. Spawny Get says:

    Every time I look at this avatar, it looks a little more like a tribute to ABBA. Bjarne or Bjorn. Iirc. Whichever had the beard.

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  99. Choicy says:

    It’s been a mini goal of mine to be live on the blog with Cillo and kick me if it isn’t true but I think I’ve done it.
    How are you mate?

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  100. Cill says:

    Still as busy as a cat burying shit here, Choicy.

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  101. Spawny Get says:

    While you’re here, Choicy. I left an explanation of my avatar in response to your kind query as to where I ‘dug it up’. Maybe someone on a pc can resurrect a link?

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  102. Choicy says:

    Onya mate. Well mate now that I hit my mini goal my day is done. Jeez I’m nackered out. I wish all you fine people a good day or night whichever it is in your part of the world. Goodnight all my mates from Choicy in the great southern land.

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  103. theasdgamer says:

    Kind of tangential…I just published a post about makeout technique. I’m sure that the girls will find that stuff boring. Heh.

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  104. Yoda says:

    Copy it over one should,

    “where did you dig him up from?”

    As it happens, mate. It’s a bit of a tale of treachery and betrayal. We I get that a lot around here.

    1) I get stick for having a laughing (young) lion (so, no mane) as an avatar
    2) this, I am informed, is unfitting for a Patriarch like wot I yam. fair does.
    3) Cill offers up an image of a lion with a main, but he ain’t larfin’ like. (Which was kind, even though it fell short)
    4) so, I scalped said Lion and stuck it on me young bonce as a syrup.
    5) and what gratitude, congratulations and renewed abeyance for my new fearsome form? None.
    6) it’s faded, you look senile, I get.
    7) it’s not faded, it’s Loreal #68 Beach Blonde, I say.
    8) why? Because I’m worth it.
    9) why #68 no one asked?
    10) because it’s like a #69 except it’s ‘You do me and I’ll owe you one’
    11) reaction to said righteous ripsnorter?
    12) tumbleweeds, mate, tumbleweeds.

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  105. Choicy says:

    Hi Spawny. I read the explanation and printed it off. Thanks mate. I can’t understand it yet mate, my brain is cactus. I’ll take another Captain Cook at it in the morning. With a bit of luck I’ll see you same time tomorrow. The time is almost 2 a.m. so Choicy signs out now.

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  106. Spawny Get says:

    Cheers guys.

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  107. Yoda says:

    7) it’s not faded, it’s Loreal #68 Beach Blonde, I say.
    8) why? Because I’m worth it.
    9) why #68 no one asked?
    10) because it’s like a #69

    Special dye for manes there is?
    Perhaps need this you do.

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  108. Spawny Get says:

    Nah, think I’ll keep it au naturelle.

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  109. Cill says:

    Re the Spawny explanation of his avatar – I wonder if Choicy will get the joke? Outback Aussies tend to be… how can I put it… straight forward people.

    I didn’t get it at first because I misread the expression on the Lion’s face. You need to see it not as a grimace of disgust but a smile of “yeah you do me and I’ll owe you one baby.”
    LOL

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  110. Sumo says:

    You need to see it not as a grimace of disgust but a smile of “yeah you do me and I’ll owe you one baby.”

    I still prefer the lecherous panda.

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  111. Spawny Get says:

    “Outback Aussies tend to be… ” just about the same as the rest of you buggers that failed to laugh.

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  112. Spawny Get says:

    Sumo, fair do’s, it was a classic post. I’m just cleaning it…

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  113. Cill says:

    Heh heh There’s more to it than that. 68 69… Go figure, me old cobbers.

    If Sumo was that Lion it’d be a case of “who’s yer daddy baby” before you could say “Shot”.

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  114. Spawny Get says:

    It’s the same laughing lion as before, but with a donor syrup atop his bonce. Giving an all round bonzer of a Barnett.

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  115. Spawny Get says:

    Is the 68 really that subtle?

    It’s like looking at a pinup and saying, “on a scale of one to ten…I’d give her one”

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  116. Cill says:

    Mate, it’s as subtle as mine at 7:34 pm. Quid pro quo.

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  117. Spawny Get says:

    It’s the same laughing lion as before, why are you now of the opinion that he’s giving it the beans? Previously you said he’d dropped one.

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  118. Cill says:

    If Sumo was involved, this would happen before you could say “Shot”:


    Who’s your daddy baby?

    (Photo courtesy of Sumo : https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2015/04/04/times-as-a-bad-boy/comment-page-1/#comment-16850 )

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  119. Spawny Get says:

    Ah look, the boy panda is giving the girl panda a nice back rub.

    Liked by 1 person

  120. Cill says:

    Bottoms up!

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  121. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Please note that girl panda is cooperating fully. No coyness, no foolishness, no setting up for “plausible deniability”. She wants pands cubs.

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  122. Spawny Get says:

    Just finished the 2012 French series ‘The Returned’ ‘Les Revenants’

    Great series. Will definitely be watching series two. While it was all tidied up at the personal level, the overall mystery remains. Really enjoyed it. Much better than the American sort of remake. They aren’t the same stories, just the central premise is shared. The French version had more atmosphere, more mystery, more frenchiness. The American one was exactly like every other US drama. There’s plenty of room for both.

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  123. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Could it be that this is what feminism is opposed to?

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  124. Cill says:

    ‘no setting up for “plausible deniability”’
    Yeah Fuzzy her feet are giving her a good solid grip of terra firma, providing a stable platform. She actually appreciates being exploited I reckon.

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    The French one was much darker, too.

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  126. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Back at 2:34pm, Yoda had a link saying that Andrew Cuomo Gov-NY(D) was going to shove “Yes means Yes” down the throats of his constituents by exectutive order. At least, Jerry Brown Gov-Ca(D) had the courtesy to allow it be legislated.
    Rhen, I read this.
    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/dont-blame-heartiste-for-the-equation-of-alpha-with-virtue/
    The next step is having a woman’s right to “tingles” enshrined in law. That men will be legally required to provide them at all times.
    For political expediency both the Govenors of New York and California have sold due process down the river Daffy Duck says it best about these two.
    That men are held responsible for that which they have no control over and lso misdirected about is too much.

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  127. Yoda says:

    Please note that girl panda is cooperating fully. No coyness, no foolishness, no setting up for “plausible deniability”. She wants pands cubs.

    Through backrubs they do come?
    Know this I did not.

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  128. Yoda says:

    Liz and Bloom have big imaginations they do

    “I was told by the founding members of the Women’s Studies Department at the State University of New York at Albany that I had been brainwashed by male scientists to believe that hormones even existed, much less had any role in the shaping of our identity and character.” Hormones are socially constructed

    http://reason.com/archives/2015/05/30/everythings-awesome-and-camill

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  129. Yoda says:

    A beehive for Fuzzie Bear,

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  130. Cill says:

    Anyone want the Slow Loris for an avatar?

    Warning:
    “They have very sharp needle-like teeth on their lower jaw, shaped like a spade. Their bite is so painful and agonizing that they can create extreme allergic reactions (up to anaphylactic shock), followed by Hematuria, which is a reaction to the allergen. Their elbows plays an important part as a lethal weapon, in their defense mechanism. On the inside of the elbows, lies a patch which is used to store a foul smelling toxin. Right before the toxic biting, the loris will suck some poison from the patch and mix it with their saliva, inside their mouth.”

    The world’s only poisonous primate.

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  131. Sumo says:

    The world’s only poisonous primate.

    LIEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The lack of physical connection between the brachial gland and the tooth comb makes it hard for lorises to fit in most of the definitions of a venomous animal. Additionally, this “venom” is toxic only for some incidentally susceptible species.

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  132. Sumo says:

    Because, y’know – Wikipedia is never wrong.

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  133. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Understanding from a completely unexpected source.
    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/why-are-some-beta-males-bitter-about-women/
    You may want to read his post from the previous day also.
    For those tl;dr, alphas reject women and these women then take it out on betas. With prejudice. Roissy commiserates.
    What is not said is that Game is not powerful enough to compensate or overcome. It may add a point on the SMV scale? To get over, betas would have to become rock stars.
    Guys, this isn;t going to work and we will never have acceptance from women who are close to being SMV equal.

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  134. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    It’s a good thing that beehive hairstyles went out of fashion when Reagan was Governor.

    To add to my point that men would need a 2.5 bump in SMV.

    http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/

    A 2.5 point increase out of a possible ten would still put men behind but, not as badly. Ok Trends works on a five point scale, not a ten.

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  135. Yoda says:

    alphas reject women and these women then take it out on betas

    Like kicking the dog it is.
    Dogs like it not

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  136. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    I can’t think of a being with more willingness to cooperate and fit in that you can bring in to a house than a dog. That some one would abuse them hurts.

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  137. Sumo says:

    What kind of a world do we live in if you can’t bust your buddy’s balls in good fun?

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  138. Spawny Get says:


    That was my ‘Hair by Mr Whippy…priceless’
    Mr Whippy? Ice cream van chain selling ice cream cones.

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  139. Spawny Get says:

    This Mr Whippy looking Most Appropriate Indeed

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  140. Spawny Get says:

    As with a lot of these lefty types, I would be fascinated ti really know how much of their BS comes from legitimate crazy, how much from being reality-averse and how much they know that they’re lying about.

    Mind you, I’d turn that same spotlight on a lot of politicians too.

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  141. SFC Ton says:

    A woman’s spending habits is just another shit test. Fail them and of course to much will never be enough

    She needs security. When a man fails to say no he fails to show strength of anysorts so she needs another form of security, fiscal security in this case

    Everything in the smp/mmp is a proxy for violence or the ability to have others commit violence on your behalf. Fail fail to have a strong frame and keep her in check she “knows” you have failed the can he commit violence test so she will check out the can he have others commit violence on his behalf side of things. That takes money so she pisses through cash

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  142. SFC Ton says:

    I have been saying women dump on betas because it confirms her low smp/mmp value for awhile now

    Nice to see science and the big name catch up

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  143. Liz says:

    “Now another 4 mm records have been added to the exposed list. So we’re pushing 18 mm.

    A whole lot of people are about to be blackmailed. Correction: a whole lot of people ARE being blackmailed, already.”

    It’s okay. The government’s got this.
    They’ll give everyone a free year of credit monitoring.
    Problem solved!

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  144. Liz says:

    “Nice to see science and the Big Name catch up”

    Lol Ton. You seem to suffer from a lack of confidence.
    There, I capitalized and bolded it for you. 😛
    😀

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  145. Liz says:

    Cill: “Anyone want the Slow Loris for an avatar?”

    Whoa. Look at his precious wee hands.
    How can something so cute and fluffy, with big eyes like that be lethal?
    Thought that only happened in Pixar films.

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  146. Liz says:

    Well…and (*cough* obviously) gravatar images….

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  147. Liz says:

    I’m feeling a little punchy today. And spammy.

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  148. Liz says:

    Okay, a lot punchy. Jumping up and down.
    I feel so alone!!!
    It’s Sunday morning and everyone in the house is still asleep.
    No one here is talking.
    BV, do you still have that little kitten Sqeeky?
    Ton, how’s halfton?
    Bloom….anyone?
    Wish my f*cking tendon in my foot was better. I REALLY need to go for a long run.

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  149. SFC Ton says:

    Ton-Spawn is still likes tits. Bout all we have in common at this point.

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  150. SFC Ton says:

    Women hating low value men; that’s what nuclear rejections are about. It’s less about the man and more about her lossing her shit about a hit to her smp rank. I have never seen a full out nuclear rejection but the semi nukes I have seen where from mid level women. I have never seen an 8 or a 9 nuke a dude for asking her to dance etc her position is secure any which way.

    Fear it’s what makes the hamster spin just like blood makes the grass grow

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  151. Liz says:

    “I have never seen an 8 or a 9 nuke a dude for asking her to dance etc her position is secure any which way.”

    I think that’s very true, Big Name Ton. 🙂

    Women are shite to other women too. I haven’t totally figured that formula out, but I know part of it depends how useful they are to the herd and/or that particular individual, having been on both the persona-non-grata AND ‘It girl’ side of things.

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  152. BuenaVista says:

    Nah, Liz, Squeaky didn’t want to live on the porch or garage and moved on down the road. (I don’t do diapers or cat boxes any more.)

    ***

    When the ideology of the female-primary personality is challenged, totalitarian impulses are exposed. Opinion is derived from egoistic demands, not observation, logic or quaint human qualities such as “kindness.” They’ve been taught to worship themselves, avoid self-criticism, and attack anything that moves that doesn’t affirm their special specialness.

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  153. Cill says:

    “still have that little kitten Sqeeky?”

    Well I still have Dog and Horse.**

    It’s cold as charity here, 4 degrees C. Snow down to 300 meters down south. Southern Alps are white all the way down the coast. Stars ablaze.

    ** I went outside to prove it earlier, hit the howl button with Dog and we sent long mournful notes out into the frigid sky. Everything becomes stiller than still after we do that. I looked at a pic of Andrea Dorking to help my boner subside. It’s Cill back to normal mode now.

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  154. Spawny Get says:

    Those of you getting emails…can you hold off doing anything with them?

    techy fiddling going on…elsewhere.

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  155. Cill says:

    I’m helping Spawny and Liz with alternatives to their dreadful unfortunate avatars.

    Liked by 1 person

  156. theasdgamer says:

    The boy panda better watch out lest the girl panda gives him a 5h1t-test. Literally.

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  157. Cill says:

    Spawny’s expression when he gazes at himself in the mirror before shaving:

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  158. Spawny Get says:

    Do you guys want to experiment a little at… http://spawny.space

    I’ll move over the last few comments if we have a goer

    and check yer email

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  159. Spawny Get says:

    I’m hoping that the images will pop into place when I hit the right plugin

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  160. Spawny Get says:

    And I’ll get the theme updated. The comments seem to have come across okay.

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  161. Cill says:

    “find an extrovert”:

    STEP RIGHT UP TO THE GREAT BLOOM CARNIVAAL!

    We’re off to see the wild Bloom show,
    The Elephants and the Kangaroos!
    Never mind the weather as long as we’re together
    We’re off to see the wild Bloom show!

    Ladies and Gentlemen in this corner we have the WinkYank bird,
    Yes Ladies and Gentlemen *the* WinkYank bird,
    The only bird in the world to have its foreskin attached to its eyelash!
    When it winks it yanks and when it yanks it winks –
    LADY, DON’T THROW SAND IN THE BIRD’S EYE!

    We’re off to see the wild Bloom show,
    The Elephants and the Kangaroo-hoo-hoo-hoos!
    Never mind the weather as long as we’re together
    We’re off to see the wild Bloom show!

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  162. Oh dear Cill! I am not sure what to make of that! Lol.

    I will keep that in mind today, people will wonder why does that silly Bloom keep laughing to herself! 😀

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  163. Cill says:

    Also, I’ve added a crucial line to it Bloom. 😉
    lol

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  164. Liz says:

    “It’s cold as charity here”

    More squee wee fun colloquialisms!
    I’ve heard “cold as a witch’s teet” and “cold as a gold digger’s heart” and “cold as a snowman’s piss”
    but never that one. 🙂

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  165. Yoda says:

    One afternoon this past April, a Florida mom and dad I’ll call Cindy and Fred could not get home in time to let their 11-year-old son into the house. The boy didn’t have a key, so he played basketball in the yard. He was alone for 90 minutes. A neighbor called the cops, and when the parents arrived—having been delayed by traffic and rain—they were arrested for negligence.

    They were put in handcuffs, strip searched, fingerprinted, and held overnight in jail.

    It would be a month before their sons—the 11-year-old and his 4-year-old brother—were allowed home again. Only after the eldest spoke up and begged a judge to give him back to his parents did the situation improve.

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  166. Cill says:

    Honestly Yoda, who’d be a parent in this batshit crazy Big Sister world?

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  167. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    You were missed.

    Yoda,
    If I were those parents, or someone seeing this second hand, I would not reccommend the State of Florida as a place to raise children.
    I think a lot of feminists, once they graduate, find their way into Child Protective Services.

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  168. BuenaVista says:

    Jeez, it’s +4C and he thinks it’s cold.

    It’s cold when you empty your airplane of oil, upon landing, and take it into the cabin or tent and put it next to the fire so it’s not a lumpen block of frozen sludge. It’s cold (that would be minus 40C) when the Quebecois instructors don’t venture outside, and your boy, who doesn’t give a shit, has frostbite on his face and belly (the latter because he doesn’t bother with a closed up jacket). It’s cold when you have to wrap your privates in a small towel, out on your run, because you plan on using them again.

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  169. Spawny Get says:

    It might be cloudy a lot, and sometimes raining pissistantly, but there are upsides to a maritime climate.

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  170. Farm Boy says:

    I think a lot of feminists, once they graduate, find their way into Child Protective Services.

    They must justify their jobs. And they often do evil in doing so.

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  171. […] Farm Boy on How Much is Enough? […]

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  172. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  173. Cill says:

    “It might be cloudy a lot, and sometimes raining pissistantly”. Describes some parts of the country, but not my part.

    I’d doubt that many other countries of comparable size have as many mini-climates as NZ does. There’s very little overcast in my locality. It’s either shining or raining, not much in between.

    4 C is as cold as it gets here. FWIW I have experienced real cold though, e.g. Siberia and Antarctica.

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  174. Sumo says:

    FWIW I have experienced real cold though, e.g. Siberia and Antarctica.

    Don’t forget Alberta. 😉

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  175. Cill says:

    “Don’t forget Alberta”
    You’re not wrong. The cold that shocks most is the biggest change in temperature. I was biking in Alberta in the clear weather when I hit a frozen fog like a physical blow. It was not the coldest temperature I’ve been in but it was the biggest shock. The Alberta media reported it was a “frozen fog” or “frozen mist” and they had an Eskimo or Indian (I think) word for it. I was unprepared for it and damn near died bro. I couldn’t breath.

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  176. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    When I lived in Reno NV, the word for frozen fog was “pogonip” taken from Paiute.
    Smo is not kidding about real cold. From the time that I tried to do an LDR, she kept reminding me that minus forty Celcius is the same as minus forty Fahenheit.
    That’s Siberian.

    Liz,
    I spent some time in Florida back in the 80s and the depth of contempt for state government appalled me. Has it gotten better, or worse?

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  177. molly says:

    I remember the cold of Canada! When I walked out of a warm house to a car, my skin stung like little needles pricks! Brrr. The Canadians don’t walk far outside in the Winter, eh. Their buildings have an entrance room having an outside door followed by a second door to keep in the warmth. They take off their outdoor clothes and hang them on pegs in the entrance. Kiwis don’t do that. We like to dash indoors and outdoors all year round.

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  178. Sumo says:

    What part of Canada were you in, Molls? I’ve never heard of any set up like the one you describe…. O_o

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  179. molly says:

    I was a child with my parents. They stayed with their very nice friends here and there wherever they went. All the friends’ houses had “entrances”. Is “entrances” the right word? A place where you hang your Winter coat etc.

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  180. molly says:

    Sumo’s avatar Grrrrr…
    Don’t attack me Sumo, remember I am unarmed! (heh heh) 😀
    LOL

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  181. molly says:

    I am armless!? saying goodnight.

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  182. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Molly,
    Three points. A swish from the far side of the half court line!

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  183. molly says:

    Sumo is the coolest sport ever! Goodnight all you lovely people.

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  184. molly says:

    Goodnight. ❤

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  185. BuenaVista says:

    My house in the upper midwest has the foyer that Molly described. Two storm doors, foyer with closet, then heavy main entrance door. 1916 construction, originally coal-boiler heated.

    But it’s not nearly as cold here as Alberta. The worst that it gets is -30F, and not often.

    I used to ski in Quebec a fair bit, and there it was not unusual to reach minus 40 (minus 40 is the same for F and C; the lines converge). The worst I have experienced is -54F in Minneapolis once; now that was somewhat painful, and you did think about personal safety.

    There was a cold snap in DC once — probably -15F — and I decided to fly down to Florida. Experienced induction icing over mountains, at night. But there’s a lever to fix that.

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  186. BuenaVista says:

    Disoriented

    By 3:30 a.m. we’ve exhausted all strategies for conversation. The ground below swims in moonlight, an
    uninviting day-for-night tableau, unwinding. We focus on our own alertness, querying ourselves for
    signals of fatigue. In the still air, warmer by the mile, our aircraft flies its own heading and altitude, which
    is ours, which is verified every 20 seconds with a sweeping panel scan — left-right, down, right-left.
    Everything is as it should be, we say, droning forward and southward, warm-ward. Earlier, like a tired
    clock, the aircraft lost interest in our steady state, slowed, and then, untrimmed, began its slow-descent into
    night-shrouded mountains, ice-fog filling the steep ravines. Just like that, no alarms and no piercing
    awareness, just the bleeding away of inertia, altitude, and safety. The outside air temperature was minus 18
    C. Induction icing, we decide, and we have a bright red lever for that, which we move three inches, which
    works. Now it is warm, the radio is quiet, sleep is a set of cool starched sheets on a farm evening after
    weeks of unbroken heat and labor. We smoke like laboratory creatures, it works. Another state passes
    behind and below the aircraft, the moon, which created this particular world, is wonderful to stare at, so we
    do. Are we drowsing? Heading and altitude. Airspeed, amps and fuel pressure. The CDI. Heading and
    altitude. Apparently not.

    Then a peripheral form jerks our vision, right, and down — there, on the ground, was something: precise,
    geometric shape of light, now gone. Hallucination? we wonder. It was the shape of a child’s puzzle-toy.
    Time to land, wait for daylight? The shape of the mysterious light-form lingers. We still see it, in mind.
    Perhaps it is time to stop. Then another slashing side-form of light. Looking down and to the right,
    nothing. We look left: nothing. Then another. Another. Then it is plain: we know. We traverse the
    Carolina lowlands now, the moon, to our right, reflects itself in ponds and swamp-pools, the angle of that
    reflection briefly trapped by our sidelong vision. It is only moonlight on water. It is not fantastical. It is
    not the letter that we put away 12 years ago, or the conversation on the steps of the Duomo in that Umbrian
    hill-town, or the promises that got hammered into dust by all of our daily panting after nothing. It is only
    moonlight on water in the swamps and farm ponds of coastal Carolina. The radio is silent. The highways,
    in moonlight, empty. We pass another state, check fuel. The shape of that light disturbs us yet. But we are
    material people and it is gone. We scan heading and altitude, measure fuel consumed and remaining. We
    remember not knowing, and we remember our dislocation of five minutes. It was real but it is gone. We
    know what it was, after all. Heading and altitude. Check fuel.

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  187. molly says:

    Hey! You can write.

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  188. Spawny Get says:

    “There was a cold snap in DC once — probably -15F — and I decided to fly down to Florida. Experienced induction icing over mountains, at night. But there’s a lever to fix that.”

    There was a Jimmy Stewart movie about the Pony Express taking to the air in the pioneer days that showed the issue and solution, wasn’t there? I had a quick look, but the guy made a lot of movies and I have little time.

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  189. molly says:

    Unca S when should we pick and run with yer shiny new site?

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  190. SFC Ton says:

    Everyone should hold government in contempt; that’s how “we the people” keep government in check.

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  191. Spawny Get says:

    “hold government in contempt”

    Given their willful incompetence and refusal to reform…how can one not?

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  192. BuenaVista says:

    Spawny, induction icing was a common issue with carburated engines; you can get induction icing on a humid 60F degree day. So this was common in the early days of flight.

    That was the only time I experienced it with fuel injection. Perhaps there was moisture (via condensation) in the fuel tanks. The engine didn’t burp or run rough — it just wouldn’t make power. It’s a similar sensation to driving a diesel in severe cold, when you’re running warm weather diesel with no additive and the fuel starts to gel and clog the fuel filter.

    I’m about as far off-topic as I can get now, eh.

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  193. SFC Ton says:

    Most folks are happy with what the govt does because they now feed at the govt tit

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  194. BuenaVista says:

    The USG was designed, originally, to provide for the common defense and to lubricate commerce between the states. Everything else — what we have today — was considered an assault on liberty and the authority of the states under federalism. And of course, the notion of an unelected fourth arm of government — the bureaucracy — was anathema, if it was even conceptually understood. The Pentagon and its millions of staff and contractors was, by contrast, nonexistent during the bloodiest of American wars (Civil War): there were 50 men in Lincoln’s War Department.

    In regard to holding government and its pretensions to effectiveness and wisdom in contempt, I watched the re-release of Coppola’s Apocalypse Now (“Apocalypse Now Redux”) last night. The Conradian antihero, the gone-native Special Forces Colonel Kurtz, who has disappeared into the Cambodian bush with an army of Montagnards, shares this contempt for his civilian and military superiors (because of their incompetence and cupidity). So he has chosen to fight the war at its brutal zenith, and quite effectively at that. His effectiveness, his disavowal of any restraint, his brutality and the cult of personality that ensues with the tribesman, renders him an ‘insane’ actor to be assassinated.

    Kurtz notes with respect that, as a SF commander, he entered a village and inoculated the village children against polio. After which the VC re-entered the village and cut the arms off of all the children, throwing the severed limbs in a pile. Kurtz understands the commitment of the VC in this example, and seeks to match it with his rogue tribe of beheading, dismembering guerrillas.

    What is extremely striking about Kurtz and his men is how directly they reflect the ethics and practices of Daesh (ISIS, ISIL). When the movie came out in 1979 Kurtz’ band were an absurd exaggeration: psychedelic in their violence. Not any longer: They simply predict Daesh.

    What separates Kurtz from the regular Army’s ethos is what prevents the American bureaucratic state, and the president, from comprehending what Daesh truly is. It’s certainly not the JV team. It’s somewhat staggering to me to observe the simultaneous incompetence and explained-away slaughter, from Libya to the Stan. To the mandarins who think they are entitled to run the country, there is no heart of darkness against which to defend.

    ***

    There’s an interesting new scene in ‘Redux’ in which the Sheen character encounters a lingering French plantation, one held by a man choosing to stay until the end. There’s a good dinner discussion about the French incapacity to fight, and the American incapacity to fight effectively or even construct a justification for fighting.

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  195. theasdgamer says:

    Just saw this.

    Christopher Lee was a real bada$$. He was a WW2 commando and member of the Special Operations Executive. Lee was a master fencer and did his own stunts.

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  196. SFC Ton says:

    Christopher Lee is in Valhalla now and we are unlikely to see the likes of him again.

    Not the commando part. The men doing that now have taken things to a level our forefathers couldn’t imagine but the high level of achievement in different and unrelated areas of life. Things are so competitive in every aspect of life it doesn’t allow for men to be all that well rounded. I was on the tail end of that. In my day most of us where pretty damn handy in a wide range of endeavours but that is much less so these days. The war is never ending at our level so you don’t have a peace time unless you get out & turn down the big money contracts.

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  197. Liz says:

    “Liz,
    I spent some time in Florida back in the 80s and the depth of contempt for state government appalled me. Has it gotten better, or worse?”

    Funny thing, I’m so used to moving around quickly that I never really got involved in the local politics (unless it hits really close to home, like closing my sons’ school or changing policy at the hospital I work at or something like that).

    Short story is…I have no idea! 🙂 But we’re really far south. So far we don’t even live on the mainland, and the Islands are pretty ecclectic and the kids run free. But we don’t lock the doors so they can always go inside (except the one time when I was at work and they were in school, and Mike locked the door…they were outside for a few hours).

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  198. BuenaVista says:

    I don’t know anything about Ton’s profession (SOF, direct action), but I would assert that the intelligence business presented more effective personnel when they were not “intelligence professionals.” When Bill Donovan started the OSS (CIA forerunner) in WWII he just hired smart, well-traveled, well-educated people and gave them room to work. Those people couldn’t get in the door these days, though they may be hired as non-official cover operatives, given the “intelligence professionals” mania for self-preservation and never making a mistake.

    “Middle schoolers with clearances” is a pretty good summary of the people inhabiting their cubicals in Langley and working their 7.5 hour days. The “R&D” group at Fort Meade is a shabby shit show of guys who should be teaching high school physics, a DoD “analyst” is someone who has a licensed copy of SAS on her computer but cannot define accurately “constraint based optimization”, and deep invention at the FBI is a never-completed “fusion database”.

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  199. Liz says:

    I had a French friend in Las Vegas who was reported for abuse by her son’s preschool teacher. Her son (2 or 3 years old) tended to have meltdowns and wouldn’t sit silently in the “naughty” corner. Instead, he would throw himself on the ground screaming in a lather, and break things. The teacher asked the mother how she handles it and she said when he does that she puts him in a small room with padding and so he won’t hurt himself until he calms down (a closet). The teacher called the authorities and the mom had regular random visits from state inspectors about twice a month after that. I always wondered what better advice they’d give her to handle the behavior…probably drugs I guess. Unconscious and/or lobotomized children are very well behaved.

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  200. “Instead, he would throw himself on the ground screaming in a lather, and break things…”

    Typical French behavior! Lol. It’s genetic!

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  201. Liz says:

    Everyone I know who has ever worked at the Pentagon (a great many people) told me the primary job of the masses who work there is to attempt to get a bigger slice of the government pie (aka funding) from the other services. That’s it. I’ve seen a lot of people leave the service in disgust after working at the Pentagon.

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  202. SFC Ton says:

    The good intell guys I know are engineers by training who hate being engineers

    One guy bent rocket tubes for Delta 4 rockets so yea a real life rocket surgeon. How good? We took over this area getting hammered by rockets. Well he looked at the old units intell, put 2 &2 together and we killed the rocket teams within 30 days and within 72 hours of starting the operation. All out going fire. Beautiful. We had a good year and he was a goodly portion of that.

    Engineers make pretty good officers once they get above the company level.

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  203. Spawny Get says:

    I have to stick up for the French here. The guys and gurls that I worked with (around three years) were overwhelmingly friendly (perhaps partially a product of my comedy accent when speaking French). Their kids, those I met, tended to be under ten, they were nice kids. The teens on the streets of small towns near Marseille didn’t worry me either.

    The petty bureaucrats were very good at being petty. Customer service was chancy at best.

    But the normal folks, as soon as you attempted to speak their language (this is VERY important), might try their equally poor English back, or at least work with you as you hunted for understanding. In that area, speaking English is NOT a given. They might well not be pretending not to understand you.

    Go there as a Rosbif, or an American being rude in English while refusing to speak French…you’ll be insulted in ways you don’t even see. As well as the fuck-you attitude that you do. Perfectly fine attitude to have, I do it too.

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  204. Liz says:

    Lol Bloom. A lot of boys do that when they are toddlers. I had a friend whose son would bang his head on the ground…kitchen tile floors/concrete, ect. He often had a black and blue swollen forehead. Or they’ll throw themselves back and hit the back of their heads on the concrete. And just keep screaming. No idea why. They get frustrated about whatever and raise hell. They grow out of it, but it’s a rough few years.

    Another anecdote, the military child checkups were often interesting. The physician had a list of questions. “When you get on a bike, what’s the first thing your mom does?” “When you go out in the sun, what does your mom do first?” “when you get in a car, where to you sit?” and so forth. Fortunately my kids always responded with the right answers (helmet, sunscreen, child car seat, and so forth). I’ve always wondered what would have happened if they answered incorrectly. Probably inspections and mandatory childcare classes for Mom.

    I had another friend with five children, pregnant with another. Every time a military spouse is pregnant (I’m assuming this is still the case) the woman has to take a class on childcare/pregnancy and so forth that lasts half a day or a full day. Childcare is NOT provided, and this can be a real hardship if the other parent is deployed or doesn’t have enough time off to watch the kids and there’s no sitter available for the day (that can be a tall order, especially overseas). This woman had to cancel the class several times because her husband couldn’t make it home to watch their children. She was put on a ‘bad parent’ list and his superior officer was contacted (think he received a letter of reprimand). Not sure what they thought she was supposed to do with the kids? Leave them alone at home with a salt lick and a bowl? She was actually demonstrating good parenting by NOT doing that (plus, she’d taken the class five times already). There isn’t enough satire in the world to cover this sort of stuff. Catch 22 did it best though.

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  205. But speaking of child services, I can see how easily that could go down. For example, last week when my oldest decided she didn’t want to ride the bus to the sitters so she called dad at work instead, led him and the folks at the school office to believe I had failed to pick her up… I could see how a little misunderstanding like that (or her dad seizing the moment to his advantage if he wanted to be a bugger) could trigger untold bs. Not good. I am sure once someone’s in “the system” it could become a quagmire of backwater madness. The parenting police are omnipresent. A general trend in our society actually that could go — the do gooder, tabs keeper, minding and then reporting everyone else’s business. I wonder what that’s about? People who have a issue w a neighbor are more likely to involve local authorities as some kind of grown up playground cop than just confront the issue themselves and work it out (could you turn the music down? Or whatever.)

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  206. SFC Ton says:

    I hated working with the French and found that joke about French ww2 battle riles to be true

    Never fired, dropped once

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  207. Liz says:

    Lol Bloom. A lot of boys do that when they are toddlers. I had a friend whose son would bang his head on the ground…kitchen tile floors/concrete, ect. He often had a black and blue swollen forehead. Or they’ll throw themselves back and hit the back of their heads on the concrete. And just keep screaming. No idea why. They get frustrated about whatever and raise hell. They grow out of it, but it’s a rough few years.

    Another anecdote, the military child checkups were often interesting. The physician had a list of questions. “When you get on a bike, what’s the first thing your mom does?” “When you go out in the sun, what does your mom do first?” “when you get in a car, where to you sit?” and so forth. Fortunately my kids always responded with the right answers (helmet, sunscreen, child car seat, and so forth). I’ve always wondered what would have happened if they answered incorrectly. Probably inspections and mandatory childcare classes for Mom.

    I had another friend with five children, pregnant with another. Every time a military spouse is pregnant (I’m assuming this is still the case) the woman has to take a class on childcare/pregnancy and so forth that lasts half a day or a full day. Childcare is NOT provided, and this can be a real hardship if the other parent is deployed or doesn’t have enough time off to watch the kids and there’s no sitter available for the day (that can be a tall order, especially overseas). This woman had to cancel the class several times because her husband couldn’t make it home to watch their children. She was put on a ‘bad parent’ list and his superior officer was contacted (think he received a letter of reprimand). Not sure what they thought she was supposed to do with the kids? Leave them alone at home with a salt lick and a bowl? She was actually demonstrating good parenting by NOT doing that (plus, she’d taken the class five times already). There isn’t enough satire in the world to cover this sort of stuff. Catch 22 did it best though.

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  208. Spawny Get says:

    A couple of them allowed me to play with their 9 m1ls, they’re golden with me. Not possible where I live.

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  209. Spawny I did not mean that as a barb, I admire the French and their feisty ways. Agreed, act like a “typical American tourist” and one gets what they get. C’est la vie!

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  210. SFC Ton says:

    The school called CPS on my sister. She said they were reasonable.

    Back story is she walked into the kitchen to see her daughter destroying it. Seen the pictures. Looked like a mini hurricane rolled through. My sister told her to go to so and so ‘s house and stay there.

    Well at school, my niece told the teacher her mommy kicked her out of the house and once the teacher heard that, training and protocol took over.

    CPS did a quick interview said sorry for the intrusion and left

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  211. Liz says:

    I’m sure the Italians (who are virtually childless) watched my interactions with the kiddos in dismay. They’re great kids now, and have been for years, but toddlerhood and infancy were unbelieveably rough. Screaming, flailing, hitting each other. Constant trips to the ER.

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  212. SFC Ton says:

    Salt lick and bowl? Hell no! Need a dog to keep the kid in check

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  213. Spawny Get says:

    I think a major problem between the Americans+English and the French is that they are generally very polite towards each other, and they find us abrasive. Ve haf ze same issue vif ze Chermanz. The Germans aren’t being rude according to their culture, but they can rub you up the wrong way unintentionally. I did find some locals frustrating, it was because they wouldn’t make allowances for me being overly pointed about some things because I lacked the vocabulary. I was doing my best.

    I saw a sign on a door once along the lines of (this is from distant memory)
    ‘merci de bien vouloir de fermer la porte, s’il vous plait’

    as opposed to what I expected
    ‘fermez la porte, svp’ ((polite form of verb) shut the door, please)

    What does it mean, approximately?
    ‘Thank you for kindly wishing to shut the door, if it pleases you.’ !!!

    I asked a French friend about it, she said that when someone asks her how to ask/say something in English…how to ask/say it politely. She tells them ‘just say what you want/mean. it’s fine’

    So perhaps you can see that even when we do our best, we just don’t do polite at that level. We show basic respect in tone, use polite words…et ca suffit pour les rosbifs

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  214. Lol Liz I somehow think witnessing all that did not help increase the Italian birth rate!

    People wo kids have no idea. I had no idea myself. It is not for the feint of heart. Then, each comes with their own particular flavor of challenging. Just when you figure one stage out, it’s on to the next.

    Parents really could use a little more kudos and respect. Like in the neighbor story, if they were so concerned maybe they could have walked over and said something like, “everything ok? Do you need to use a phone or anything?”

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