Red Pill Classroom – Careers


More specifically, women’s careers.  Which are different from men’s careers.  Feminism has sold women the idea that they must have careers.  Nots so much jobs, but careers.  The difference seemingly being that careers are “white collar” and prestigious; and not everybody can have them as there typically is an educational barrier to entry.  Women like formal education (though useful learning might be a different matter) and they like to fill white collar positions; so what is not for them to like?

Actually a good bit.  Perhaps their career positions are too challenging, or perhaps they are the dreaded boring.  Or perhaps they are “make work” positions.  Any way that you want to you look at it, they are usually not glamorous and/or fun like they were implicitly promised.  And complain they do.

Men understand this these issues.  The expectations for careers and men are such that if a career is sometimes gratifying, then it exceeds what they expected.  Notice the difference.

And finally, there is the fulfilling issue.  But what precisely is fulfilling?  “Making a difference” and what not?  How fulfilling is a a typical woman’s career?  Perhaps women were sold a bill of goods with respect to expectations.

Maybe the biggest impact of women’s careers is that they now have their own money, giving them independence from individual men.  And in the end, has this combination of money, independence, and career fulfillment brought them happiness?

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111 comments on “Red Pill Classroom – Careers
  1. Farm Boy says:

    “Making a difference”

    Often “making a difference” means working to take working peoples money and spending it foolishly.

    And then feeling awesome about themselves for doing so.

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  2. SFC Ton says:

    Women lie like they breath, natural and automatically. To themselves most of all

    Sooooo in this case it’s about the hamster covering down for them not doing their primary job; spit out kids. If there career is important enough they can give themselves a pass for failing to create the next generation

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  3. Yoda says:

    Good that fulfilling they are.
    For many they are not.

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  4. Yoda says:

    Many women at Jedi Academy unhappy they were.
    Paycheck the only reason to come in it was.
    Big bureaucracies bad for women they are

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  5. Yoda says:

    Big bureaucracies bad for men also they would be.

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  6. theasdgamer says:

    Hit Happy Hour at a couple of bars…a pint of beer and a margarita later on top of my two Sangrias…and I’ve got a decent buzz on!

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  7. theasdgamer says:

    And in the end, has this combination of money, independence, and career fulfillment brought them happiness?

    In Mrs. Gamer’s case, it looks like it will bring her…cats. Good thing is, she thinks that cats are underrated, lol.

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  8. Tarnished says:

    If you have a career it should do 3 things:
    1. Be useful to at least a sizable segment of the population/demographic of your area.
    2. Be gratifying on a personal level.
    3. Ensure you make enough income to not leech off the government.

    If it does not have these 3 traits, you should question just how much of a “career” you have. My career fulfills all 3, and I wouldn’t trade it for the majority of jobs I see others slaving away at.

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  9. Tarnished says:

    Oooooo….sangria. Yum!

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    That is pretty good criteria Tarn

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  11. Tarnished says:

    Thanks, FB.
    It’s the combined wisdom of my grandmother, and a male neighbor/father of a friend I knew growing up who was a true role model.

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    Sangria? Part of your five a day fruit and veg and ethanol , I spose

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  13. Yoda says:

    Difficult to meet Tarn’s criteria often it is.
    Compromise sometimes one must

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  14. Yoda says:

    Fulfilling -what precisely it would be?

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  15. Farm Boy says:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/357259.php

    Yes, you read that right. The Kangaroo Court found that the boy was likely blacked out unconscious from drinking during the accuser’s performing of oral sex on him, but that this is never an excuse.

    Apparently, if you’re asleep or unconscious, and a woman performs oral sex on your unconscious body, you can be later be accused and convicted (in a college civil tribunal) of rape, if she decides that this was all rather ill-advised.

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/357259.php

    he incident dated from the early morning hours of February 5, 2012, when the accused student (who filed the suit pseudonymously, as John Doe) was a sophomore. After a night of heavy drinking by Doe, he accompanied the accusing student (who I’ll call AS) back to her room, where she performed oral sex on him. (Doe had no recollection of the sexual encounter, a claim that even Amherst’s tribunal found “credible”) When news of her having hooked up with her roommate’s boyfriend got around, a former friend recalled that AS (unsurprisingly) “lost her group of friends.”

    AS’s new group of friends, much like Rolling Stone’s “Jackie” in the UVA case, came from campus victims’ rights circles. AS first mentioned the alleged assault in a column from an activist campus website to which she regularly contributes and which reflected the viewpoint of the most extreme campus victims’ rights advocates–though the thrust of the column focused on her friends (unsurprisingly) turning on her after the hookup….

    Twenty-one months after hooking up with her roommate’s boyfriend, AS filed a claim of sexual assault. She did not go to the police, and of course had not sought medical attention after the alleged attack….

    In her written response, the accuser claimed that after Doe left her room, she felt “very alone and confused,” so texted a friend to come over and spend the night with her.
    In fact, as Doe’s attorneys later would discover, AS had texted two people after the hookup–a friend, and a possible paramour. Even before hooking up with Doe, AS had texted the other male student, telling him, “I mean I happen to have my room to myself this weekend, if you wanted to come over and entertain me.”…

    Just after Doe left her room, AS also had (as she told the disciplinary panel) texted a friend. But (contrary to what she told the disciplinary panel) she didn’t invite the friend over to her room. Instead, she informed the friend, “Ohmygod I jus did something so fuckig stupid.”Coarse language from her in subsequent texts implied an awareness that she had initiated sexual contact with the student she later accused of rape. AS was upset in these messages–but not from being raped.
    Rather, she worried (not unreasonably) about the fallout of a sexual liaison with the boyfriend of her roommate, who “would literally never speak to me again” if she found out. AS continued texting her friend after the male student arrived; she described her attitude toward her guest: “Like, hot girl in a slutty dress. Make. Your. Move. YEAH.” At 5am, she sent another text to the friend indicating that some sort of sexual liaison had occurred with her male visitor…..

    Despite an accuser who offered borderline non-coherent responses that subtly expanded on her initial story, the panel ultimately accepted her credibility. It ruled that while Doe likely was “blacked out” during the oral sex, “[b]eing intoxicated or impaired by drugs or alcohol is never an excuse.”

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  17. Tarnished says:

    Fulfilling is when one gets a sense of true accomplishment for an action. Going to work everyday and hating/disliking each moment of it just because it gives one a paycheck is unfulfilling.

    Going to work because you truly enjoy it and/or because it creates a noticeable, perceived difference in one’s community is fulfilling.

    Compromises do have to be made sometimes, but one should take note of said compromises and ensure they are temporary or leading to a more preferred career path. If they don’t, it’s time to consider other options.

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  18. Tarnished says:

    FB,

    That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve read today. And that includes the article about the Christian couple who “threatened” to get divorced if gay marriage is made legal.

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  19. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    That story from Amhearst is so bad, I wondered if it’s possible to criminally prosecute those who handed sown this judgement. A man ajudged guilty of rape for being conked out when oral sex was performed on him? This is not negligence.
    At the least, this kis is going to get a very large award.

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  20. I think women often expect a career to be ffikling, like on TV or something. Many men work often pretty my Dane but essential jobs, they don’t seem to expect fulfillment, it’s a out a paycheck like the post says, fulfillment is a bonus

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  21. Err … fulfillment and mundane that should have said

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  22. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Careers re the vehicle to see women free of their dependence on men. But, if you couple this with a woman’s desire to pair up with a man of superior status, there is a problem.

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  23. Choicy says:

    I quote Tarn, “If you have a career it should do 3 things:

    1. Be useful to at least a sizable segment of the population/demographic of your area.
    2. Be gratifying on a personal level.
    3. Ensure you make enough income to not leech off the government.”

    Tarn I think I satisfy your criteria including the first, which I’m a bit doubtful about. I am of fairly high net value to my community, however I would not rate “useful to at least a sizable segment of the population/demographic of your area” very high on my agenda. I think white men already bust a bollock for a society that will only shit on them when it comes to the nitty gritty. I’d advise young jokers, if you satisfy criteria 2 and 3 your doing fairly well mate.

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  24. molly says:

    Choicy Choice! Yarooo! 😀

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  25. Choicy says:

    Molly Voice! My midday break is over and it’s back to work for this over-worked Digger. I’ll catch up,with you on the phone Molly, and that’s a promise! 🙂

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  26. molly says:

    Yaya Choicy! Take care. 🙂

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  27. BuenaVista says:

    Doesn’t matter how feminist, strong, independent or even rich a woman is: in the end she’s going to want a man to take care of her materially. Very, very, very few Harvard Business School female graduates follow a career path equivalent to that of their male counterparts.

    Try this experiment when a woman begins the inevitable effort to lock down a man and co-opt his resources and earning power: “Oh. It never occurred to me that you didn’t have your own money and job ambitions, because you seem to take great pride and pleasure in both.” There’s some major short-circuiting about to ensue.

    I think this relates to the prior rent-seeking post. Again, doesn’t matter how feminist, sex-pozzie, libertinish, professional, strong and awesome a woman is; when she decides to lock down a guy, she’ll default to the ethic of 1955: if she provides sexual access to her magical pussy, she believes she’s owed provisioning, protection, and a bump-up in social status. (i.e., the inverse of what the feminist culture says women want.) You’ll lose your mind if you attempt to reason your way out t of these contradictions.

    All women are strong, good looking, above average, and independent. Until they’re in love. Then the party starts, the party where someone is saying, “I never felt this way before, I want only you, and for you to want only me. Let’s go to the Caymans for the weekend! You’re buying, right?”

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  28. BuenaVista says:

    Okay, not all women. I’ve known two who gave as good as they received.

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  29. Tarnished says:

    Choicy,

    Many not-so-glamorous careers are of use to one’s community, they don’t have to be earning the big bucks or become a city’s household name. I’d argue that even a career like lawn care, rowboat repair, or a dog walking is actively helpful to those who use said services.

    Now, having a career that helps nobody/only a very small portion of people? That’s a make-work career, or one that relies on bureaucracy/victim mentalities to even exist. Being a pencil pusher at a 3,000 employee company comes to mind as does being a Gender Studies professor. Those are the mind-numbing careers I speak of.

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  30. Tarnished says:

    Let’s go to the Caymans for the weekend! You’re buying, right?

    The only good response to that is either a hearty belly laugh, or a look of solemn sincerity as you say “Oh no my love, I’d never dream of taking away your financial independence. We’ll split it, 50/50.”

    If she agrees, you’ve probably got a decent woman. If not, then you’ll see how she upholds double standards.

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  31. Liz says:

    “1. Be useful to at least a sizable segment of the population/demographic of your area.
    2. Be gratifying on a personal level.
    3. Ensure you make enough income to not leech off the government.”

    I number two is a hard one. Even number three, considering the cost of medical care these days. Most people are one big accident/heart attack/ special-needs child away from declaring bankruptcy, even if they work 60 hours per week.

    I’ve tried to steer my oldest (who has to make a decision pretty soon) toward the medical field. At least that can’t be outsourced (as much). With an aging population, there’s going to be a continuous cash cow. BUT the government regulations plus litigation are making medicine a very stressful career choice too. Hard to find something gratifying when you are unable to provide the type of care you want to your patients due to all the regulatory paperwork and ridiculous patient load.

    Mike met a trauma surgeon on the plane a few weeks back. He said that guy looked awful, even worse than a fed ex pilot (those guys really look awful…terrible hours). The physician told him he hadn’t really slept in four days. They don’t have enough surgeons, so they fly them around and this cuts into their sleep with the weird hours. He said it’s a lifestyle, always like that. Imagine knowing your surgeon hadn’t slept in days. That’s like being drunk, performance falls in a big way. It’s bad for pilots, so I imagine it’s very very bad it is for trauma surgeons.

    My son wants to go into particle physics. He knows a disturbing amount about quantum mechanics for a 16 year old, especially considering he learned it all on his own. But it’s very difficult to make a living with a physics degree and you have to have a phD.

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  32. Liz says:

    BTW, the average GPA to get into the University of Florida is now 4.25.
    It’s a crazy competitive environment, especially considering there’s no guarantee of a job after, or anything close.

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  33. Yoda says:

    He knows a disturbing amount about quantum mechanics for a 16 year old

    The green eyed one this is?
    Proud I would be

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  34. Liz says:

    Hee hee. No, he’s a blue-eye.
    I am proud of him, thanks Yoda. 🙂
    Intellectual curiosity is a very good thing, and it’s pretty rare. He’ll go biking for hours and think about physics. I don’t know how marketable it is, but I’m glad he likes it.

    Boys are different from girls in this respect, in my experience, when it comes to stuff like physics. Every woman I know (myself included) with a hard science (or math) background went into that field to “prove” something to herself and others. Not because she actually just loved learning it. They can do well on tests (I did), but the deep level of understanding of how it works and why isn’t really there.

    I thought I was unique in this way but I’ve spoken to a lot of women who (after getting to know them enough to get an honest response, not a ‘go gurlz! response) admit the same. They felt good being a girl who could do it, but weren’t super-excited about the material (mostly…I really did LOVE basic chemistry, organic, materials engineering classes, but not others, not all hard science is the same even within a chemistry program. Organic chem, for instance has virtually nothing in common with physical chemistry).
    Anyway….blah blah blah

    Always funny to hear the female scientists (example Swithy’s recent post on another thread) complain that women are discouraged, not due to lack of interest but ridicule. By contrast look at the main career paths/work fields they choose. They are the very most likely to actively choose employment where they had to wear something ridiculous, sell something ridicule-worth, and/or manipulate people. They’re fine with all that…but oh, God! No! Don’t put them in a lab coat and expect them to feel comfortable unless everyone tells them they are awesome.

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  35. Liz says:

    If only female educational administrators/ federal workers were so defected from their prospective career fields! There’s a ubiquitous message from all folks capable of thought, that the vast majority of them are useless parasites. Doesn’t seem to dissuade, strangely. Unlike hard stuff like science and math.

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  36. Liz says:

    Chick: “I want to be a TSA agent”
    response: “Rocks aspire to be as stupid as a TSA agent”
    Chick: “Haterz!!”

    Chick: “I want to be a physicist”
    response: “Wow, that’s a really hard goal.”
    Chick: “You’re saying I’m stupid? A girl can’t do it? That does it! I’m going to be a TSA agent..”

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    It seems to be very tricky to be a chick…and that doesn’t seem to require any oppression from men. Women just seem to invent genuinely felt oppression from…nothing.

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  38. Tarnished says:

    They do, Spawny.
    It’s really ridiculous, and can be difficult having a conversation about many topics with them…even ones that would seem “safe”.

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  39. Tarnished says:

    That’s one of the things that is truly awesome about having male friends: you can have scientific conversations with people who not only understand the topic, but are just as interested in it as you. 🙂

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  40. BuenaVista says:

    Liz: my surgeon friend is a gynecological oncologist and is one of two available in … two states. So her life, like the trauma surgeon Mike met, is often not her own. She’s spending the weekends though building an RV, if you know what they are.

    On college admissions, in two states where I lived, there is guaranteed admission to the Tier 1 state schools if the applicant matriculates from a community college. For example, U of Virginia has a quota system for Northern VA applicants, so it’s a lot like the UF situation you mentioned. You can be a straight A with 750/750/750 on your SATs and not get admitted. But if you maintain a B average at a community college for two years, and take the right courses, admissions to UVa is guaranteed. In the state where I’m living now, same deal. One of the boys I mentor here is penniless but a very strong math/science kid, and I’m hopeful he goes this route (if he doesn’t go in the service).

    I employed a lot of Russian and American physicists — as software and numerical research professionals. They made a lot more than college professors or researchers at the Jet Propulsion Lab. Physicists are highly valued for their quantitative research skills. It is a prime skill in risk arbitrage (Big Finance), and highly desirable there. Obviously physicists are essential to intelligence community activities related to, again, quantitative analysis (say, the discovery, in large data sources, of illicit and malignant sub rosa networks). I don’t think physics is at all a dead-end street professionally, provided the individual wants to do applied mathematic research. Quite the contrary.

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  41. Yoda says:

    It seems to be very tricky to be a chick…and that doesn’t seem to require any oppression from men. Women just seem to invent genuinely felt oppression from…nothing.

    Women of the world — oppress yourself.

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  42. Liz says:

    Thanks so much for the response, BV.

    Wow, that was helpful! 🙂
    (my son is considering military service also, but I really hope he doesn’t go that route, due to stuff I rant about ad nauseum).

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  43. BuenaVista says:

    Tarnished, 12:22: Of course one should reject such a person, or at minimum construct some guard rails. This is just how women behave.

    I was too brief, mostly because I was too tired (heavy volume on the squat rack at 5:30 a.m., the most for me in three decades, and certainly since my airport ‘excursion’ last year). I meant to reference the turn-on-a-dime behavior of SIW once they decide it’s time to be June Cleaver, not Lady GaGa. This was a terribly confusing phenomenon for a grown man who swallowed blue pill, feminist teachings without so much as a glass of water.

    One minute they’re equalists, the next their complementarians, to use a Christian opposition. This is how they are. Rollo simply calls it the Feminine Imperative, or the acceptance of Sandberg’s Open Hypergamy life plan.

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  44. Good tip re the community college route bv. Plus, saves a lot of $$ and they are mostly just prerequisites anyway. It can be a wise path for some.

    A 4.25 average GPA? How is that even possible?

    Your son being intellectually curious is a good thing. More people should be! If he is that, he will be a success no matter what.

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  45. BuenaVista says:

    On the ‘misogyny’ of the laboratory, it’s important for us to remember that a woman being wrong about something like … a mathematical solution to a difficult problem … does not absolve of us of the obligation to encourage, empower, and praise. Because human history is only recently being challenged, and only recently have women been allowed to challenge the slavery of the patriarchy. Patronizing head-patting is just another form of reparations for the embedded cruelties of men in society. Also, girls cry because they are so brave in listening to their feelings.

    Similarly, Amy Schumer is empowering and liberating, when she says such things as “I’m like, umm, 160 pounds now and I can catch a dick whenever I want.” Because, you see, this is how men think, and finally a chubby girl has the Courage and Wit to say such things at a magazine awards event. One might be tempted to suggest that Schumer change her own oil, or fix her own toilet, or design the link access protocol that streams such brilliant insights over glass or satellite. But holding her to such standards of achievement is, umm, wrong, and just points out how far we have to go before women claim their righteous place at the dais of life.

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  46. Spawny Get says:

    “ad nauseum”

    once again, Spawny corrects, Spawny edumacates:

    it’s ‘per ardua ad astra’ (“Through adversity to the stars”). RAF motto

    What kind of air-force would have a motto of ‘ad nauseam’? Sounds more like a naval motto. Not our navy’s!

    The Royal Navy’s is ‘Si vis pacem, para bellum’ (“If you want peace, prepare for war”)

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  47. BuenaVista says:

    Bloom, I’m really down on the college racket these days. It’s too much like summer camp, but with beer-bongs and six-figure bills. Given the authority, I would have just given son #1 $25K per year and told him he had to spend 8 hours a day int he New York Public Library. Also, that would have saved me $200K (after tax) that his four years at an indoctrinating summer camp cost.

    Also, at the big schools, very rarely does the student have access to the premier teaching scholars in years 1 and 2. Too often they are TAs working off their Ph.D fees, talking to an auditorium with 200 kids in attendance. That’s not teaching.

    I just think it’s a scam. Check out the community college plan in your state: most people don’t know it’s there, but it’s popular with college administrators because it checks a social progressive’s “access and compassion for the poor” box. It’s unpopular because mommie can’t put the university sticker on her Volvo. (IOW, too much of the college rat race is about delivering status to the parents, not an education to the child.)

    I agree wholeheartedly with this guy (who incidentally used to be a neighbor of my folks). But his views are not the current norm. Hunter Rawlings:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/09/college-is-not-a-commodity-stop-treating-it-like-one/

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  48. BuenaVista says:

    Lord Nelson: “Never mind maneuvers, go straight at them.” (The noted fictional fighting captain, Jack Aubrey, agrees.) That was a fighting navy.

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  49. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I’ve built quite a career for meself in the fashioning of Kauri Clubs from rare dead trees. I can congratulate meself that my career does all of Tarn’s “3 things”.

    2. Be gratifying on a personal level
    Well, to quote Tarn herself, “Yup”.

    3. Ensure you make enough income to not leech off the government
    Pretty much irrelevant to me I reckon. I suppose if I don’t pay tax I don’t expect handouts (let me be clear, though, if I did pay tax I’d expect something back).

    1. Be useful to at least a sizable segment of the population/demographic of your area
    Ah now this is where me chest swells with pride. Subtle skill goes into the whittling of a Club. I have perfected the various bumps and grooves that make a club more effective. Kauri Clubs add to the cohesion of Moehau Man culture. *And* I have been altruistic – I have taught the craft to young Moehau Man up-and-comers.

    Pride in my career is one of the few things that can bring a tear to me eye.

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  50. Yoda says:

    Moe,

    Your Mum feel the same way about making cod pieces she does?

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    Hey Cill,
    how about whittlin’ a nice Kauri Club for your Uncle Spawny?

    Maybe to celebrate me noo ‘do’?

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  52. Liz says:

    Bloom: “A 4.25 average GPA? How is that even possible?”

    AP courses. Some of these students REALLY have the eye of the tiger and take online AP courses in addition to AP at the local highschool. There are also special math academies and so forth that offer weighted grade averages for courses. I know an MIT graduate (late 20s) who had over a 6.0 when he applied to MIT. This is so very different from the way things were when I enrolled, 20+ years ago. I didn’t worry at all about admission to UF. It’s was basically a foregone conclusion. My son’s grades are comparable, and SAT better than mine, and I doubt he will make it in. He isn’t sure he even wants to.

    BV, I had him read your response, thanks again for that.
    Per the college ‘racket’, I’m not sure if you’ve read this blog. I’ve shared it before here, it’s extremely informative. Confessions of a college professor:

    http://professorconfess.blogspot.kr

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  53. Yoda says:

    Similarly, Amy Schumer is empowering and liberating, when she says such things as “I’m like, umm, 160 pounds now and I can catch a dick whenever I want.”

    Read this one should,

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/who-will-pay-the-rent/

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  54. missattempts says:

    A few years ago a book was written titled, “The Fall Of Men, And The Raise Of
    Women. The women are educated and professional. The men are manuel and blue collar.
    The gender balance via education, now favors women. Men are obscelete, except
    to be used as sex toys for the women.
    If Tarnished is here, I would like to ask her, how she withstood the abuse at school.
    How did she excel at school when she was treated so terribly?
    The abuse she got at home was bad enough, but she could compartmentalize.
    I thought she was “free” at school. If you dread showing up someplace, how can
    you perform at your optimum level? It’s like white children going to a black majority
    school. I would dread the sun coming up.
    My only experience of being assulted BOTH at home and school was when I lived in
    a haunted house. It was a given that I’d be tormented in school. But I was also attacked
    by unseen hands in my house, and other frightening things happened.
    A double whammy of abuse.

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  55. Liz says:

    Interesting article on college-as-a-commodity. I think there’s a “Veblen good” aspect to college too. Parents want their ducks to go to the best, because that’s a status thing giving them a bit of an ‘attaboy/attagirl’ for their fine parenting. I’m honest enough with myself to know this. And Mike is smart and perceptive enough to say, when I freak about about a B grade and so forth, “Liz, make sure this is about him and not you.”

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  56. Moehau Man says:

    Wait on a minute there, Yoda. I’ve just brought a bunch of seaweed up from the beach to dab me eyes on. That’s better. Now what were we saying? Oh yes, Mrs Moehau Man (my industrious old mum) and her career in Codpieces –

    Yes well, she also sells Pikelets, don’t forget that, but getting back to the Codpieces, these are her responses to Tarn’s criteria:

    1. Be useful to at least a sizable segment of the population/demographic of your area.
    “Equipped with his Codpeice, a Moehau Man can hang out with confidence on the bottom of the world.”

    2. Be gratifying on a personal level
    “I rejoice to see them being worn in both senses of the word”

    3. Ensure you make enough income to not leech off the government.
    “Sure. I have a flare for sales. I wonder if I could interest that Lion in an oral variety of codpiece that would be useful as a bung.” (Um, she looked at Spawny’s avatar when she made that remark. This is where old Moe here believes the gesture of a rare emoticon might be a good idea: 😉 )

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  57. BuenaVista says:

    Liz, we hired “computer science” majors to do testing, run the internal network, and be technical support for sales reps and customers who called in. (i.e., they were the janitors.) We hired physicists, mathematicians, even quantitative chemists to build complex software. My best VP Engineering was/is a chemist. He has the social skills of an aggressive emu. The scientists working for him love him. All math, all the time.

    ***

    Anecdote: because that is what I do:

    I had a killer HR director; she runs HR now for a top 10 insurer. (We only had 100 people.)

    She finds an MIT Ph.D with the perfect resume. Math, optimization, prior employment. He wants to leave a multi-billion dollar company to work for us. We fly him in. HR director, who happened to be the hottest thing I’d seen since I was 19, is vibrating with her recruiting skills.

    Pash (the chemist/VP Engineering) is the first interview. Pash says, “How would you solve this problem? The white board is right there.”

    Candidate mumbles and fumbles.

    Pash ends the interview after 10 minutes, goes to Aleksi, my partner. “I can’t do anything with him.” Aleksi takes another drag on his Marlboro (we had super high-powered fans in his office and mine) and says, “Fine.”

    Candidate goes to HR director’s office. And cries.

    HR director comes storming into my office cursing like an ex-Special Forces colonel with a Silver Star, which her father is. Threatens to quit. Throws shit.

    I go see Aleksi. “He’s a resume, not a brain.”

    Moral: people in advanced research know brains, and pay a lot for them. Also, don’t get drunk at home with your HR director.

    ***

    So.

    Writing code is a fucking joke for a physicist. Creating a numerical model of a complex problem that no one has solved? Hire a physicist or someone of his ilk.

    This only applies in quant-heavy software, the software you build to solve problems in finance or to kill bad guys or other such things the private sector prizes. Not the crap that other people call ‘software.’ I use as little of the latter as possible.

    A physicist with coding skills will have a first year starting salary in the six figures if he interviews with the right people in the private sector.

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  58. BuenaVista says:

    Haha, Veblen good. So busted.

    I admit to a 25 year-old Volvo brick in the driveway with certain stickers on it.

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  59. theasdgamer says:

    A physicist with coding skills

    I don’t see how a physicist could NOT have coding skills.

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  60. theasdgamer says:

    Reminds me of a problem I was asked to solve–how to render an ellipse on a rasterized output. My engineering boss who went to Johns Hopkins couldn’t solve it. I ended up publishing a paper about it in a tech journal. Not highly quantitative, but it did require calculus.

    The funny thing is that I failed my first computer programming course. 😄

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    Mixed news at Beitbart-London
    Farage as a comulnist: TTIP is about giant corporations dominating our economies

    Milo & Delingpole to leave / have left?
    Turmoil at Breitbart-London

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  62. Long story short: cream rises. I know degrees and credentials matter far more on the east coast, but scrappy and smart can go a long, long way!

    For example, I managed Ivy League folk, with my small urban college degree. why? I was faster/better/smarter. They were soft, needed direction.

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  63. Choicy says:

    Yeah Tarn, I concur. Your criteria #1 is good for identifying the make-work careers such as Womens Studies Teacher or some other job of that kind, as useless as a chocolate fireguard. However as a criterion for a young joker deciding on a career, I think he should ignore it. My Aussie-talk confused the issue I think. When we say “a young joker” we’re ruling out the manginas. A young joker won’t be looking for a wart job such as Diversity Officer. He’ll be thinking of being a dustman or engineer or bouncer or chef, which is already net value to the community. I think he should ignore #1 if it is going to distract him from #2 and #3.

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  64. Choicy says:

    For example he might start to wonder, is a barman net value?

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    “wart job”

    you fancy foreign types come up with some great phrases. I like that one a lot.

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  66. Choicy says:

    Thanks mate, I gave you a Like and saw your avatar reminding me I do live in Bunyip land. Fair go mate, where did you dig him up from? Lol

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  67. Spawny Get says:

    “where did you dig him up from?”

    As it happens, mate. It’s a bit of a tale of treachery and betrayal. We I get that a lot around here.

    1) I get stick for having a laughing (young) lion (so, no mane) as an avatar
    2) this, I am informed, is unfitting for a Patriarch like wot I yam. fair does.
    3) Cill offers up an image of a lion with a main, but he ain’t larfin’ like. (Which was kind, even though it fell short)
    4) so, I scalped said Lion and stuck it on me young bonce as a syrup.
    5) and what gratitude, congratulations and renewed abeyance for my new fearsome form? None.
    6) it’s faded, you look senile, I get.
    7) it’s not faded, it’s Loreal #68 Beach Blonde, I say.
    8) why? Because I’m worth it.
    9) why #68 no one asked?
    10) because it’s like a #69 except it’s ‘You do me and I’ll owe you one’
    11) reaction to said righteous ripsnorter?
    12) tumbleweeds, mate, tumbleweeds.

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  68. Cill says:

    “3) Cill offers up an image of a lion with a main, but he ain’t larfin’ like.”
    He had his arse in the air, if you recall. If thought it explained the expression on his face quite well at the time.

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  69. Spawny Get says:

    Looks good to me

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  70. Spawny Get says:

    This guy loves it too

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  71. Yoda says:

    Once again,

    The mane is plain but good enough to maintain frame

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  72. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda, I’ll warn you just once. There’s absolutely no guarantee that the man will remain plain.

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  73. Spawny Get says:


    still love the smile

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  74. Cill says:

    You love that bird, Spawny. You really do.

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  75. Cill says:

    Er, what age is she?

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  76. Spawny Get says:

    What’s not to like?
    “In the early 1970s Drake was associated with the boom in British sexploitation movies, repeatedly appearing nude or topless. She played a nude artist’s model in the 1970 film Connecting Rooms, and was one of Peter Sellers’ conquests in the film There’s a Girl in My Soup. She also played one of the lead roles in the sex comedy Au Pair Girls (1972) “

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    late twenties for the sexploitation stuff.

    she actually aged very well. she was a MILF (in the purest, most wholesome way) many years later.

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  78. Spawny Get says:

    She was in her forties in this (the one with the bag)

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  79. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    Sage is the state flower of Nevada. That makes tumbleweeds also.

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  80. Spawny Get says:

    Kim Novak, she knew how to keep quiet. She made her patriarch proud.

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  81. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    BuenaVista at 3:08pm,
    That was the first time that I saw anything from Amy Schumer. I can’t believe that she actually said that. That she can pull guys while overweight says more about how sick the SMP is than her brilliance at being a woman. If she is a model of femininity, guys should stick to video games.
    As a counterpoint, consider Grace Kelly. Part of her allure is that she doesn’t say much. Smart girl.

    Spawny Get,
    Stop torturing me with her image. When I heard that she was over seventy, I wanted to cry.
    I like the new avatar. Please keep it for a while.

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  82. BuenaVista says:

    Drake looks pretty good, all the moreso as she from the all-natural era. But, you know, tits or GTFO.

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  83. Liz says:

    Fuzzie, yeah there’s much too much Amy now.
    She was actually kind of funny a few years back (she was also thinner then) but the ‘I’m a slut, get it?’ shtick is old and worn and Chelsey Handler did it first, and better.

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  84. Yoda says:

    Stop torturing me with her image.

    Clear her image from your mind this will,

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  85. BuenaVista says:

    FW: Schumer is a leading female cultural model. Her schtick involves talking about her vagina and claiming that she’s a SJW for women’s freedom. ‘Because men do it too.’

    Know any men who talk about their dicks a lot?

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  86. SFC Ton says:

    Sure she can pull guys question is what sort of dudes?

    Reckon she would be a lot happier if she was getting jackhammered by alphas and the reason why most overt femisinst are feminists is because they don’t get their gash flooded by alpha seed on the regular. Hence the need to redefine what men want in a piece of ass

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  87. Yoda says:

    Know any men who talk about their dicks a lot?

    Write a play you should
    Call it “Dick Monologues” one might.

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  88. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    BuenaVista,
    I was joyously ignorant of Amy until today. That she is so popular underscores how sick the SMP is. Somebody should tell her, while she is sitting down, That if she has any success with men, it’s because this culture has rendered them desperate.What a crude, loudmouth swellhead.

    Andrea Dworkin countermeasure

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  89. Yoda says:

    Cure the cure this will

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  90. Yoda says:

    Bear and I think a like we do

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  91. Yoda says:

    Becoming immune we are.
    Perhaps double dosage needed it is.

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  92. theasdgamer says:

    Spawny, Kim Novak is of Czech descent. The Czechs are a beautiful people.

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  93. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    “Know any men that talk about their dicks a lot?”
    Not any that you would co9nsider sane.

    This business of glorifying sluts has got to stop. To begin with, that a gal can pull a guy out of her league for short term is a given. If she can’t pull one for long term is a problem that requires introspection.

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  94. @ fuzzie I think she sadly represents the main stream assumption that guys can and always have scored as much as they like, but it’s projection not reality. I didn’t realize it either until the manosphere. People accept that apex theory as a given… When it is not.

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  95. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    This insidious focus women tend to have on apex alphas, it’s almost as if teir’s is the only experience that matters.
    The price of hypergamy is that, according to the Pareto Principle or 80/20 rule, eighty percent of the men will be left with the last twenty percent of the action while the top twenty will get eighty. In the meanwhile eighty percent of the women will have to settle for sharing these top tier men. At least, before feminism, women had a better shot at finding a full time partner.
    Kind of a long way to go about saying that the bottom eighty percent can be ignored.

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  96. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Remember last month the woman who threatened to call security on a student who was waiting to talk to a counselor as “harrassment”?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/05/kennesaw-state-advisor_n_7521164.html?cps=gravity_1787_-5882755336422137459

    While my gut tells me that she wouldn’t do this to a female student, the comments are tearing into her as a power mad bureaucrat.

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  97. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  98. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    I don’t know what to think. One commenter said that she is right up there with Mattress Girl but not as destructive, I.e> no false allegations, etc..
    It it is anyhing, it is an insult from her to all men and a declaration that she is entitled to a sweetie

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  99. Spawny Get says:

    Domestic+ robots are going to be great for men (doing domestic work ‘+’ a few other things).

    For women? Not so much.

    Such things can replace women for ‘leisure’ activities for men. Or…lower the desire to bother going looking for a real woman to the point where he’ll save his time, money and energy. Attention whores are going to get desperate.

    But women want social prestige and cash from men. Robots aren’t going to deliver that.

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  100. Spawny Get says:

    You guys* Americans are weird
    A Big Slobbery Welcome To My Newest Trans-Black Sister, Rachel Dolezal

    As if this wasn’t amazing enough, there are signs that the BAB (“Black At Birth”) community, referred to in the established social justice literature as “cis-raced,” is also beginning to accept their “stealthy soul brothers”, the trans-blacks – or, as one brave sista refers to herself, transn—-rs.

    Rachel Dolezal became a national sensation in the US on Thursday after local news stations KXLY and KREM reported stories about her trans-blackness, which was later picked up by Buzzfeed and spread throughout the internet faster than a trans-black who hears a police siren.

    Dolezal is the real deal when it comes to trans-blackness. A less enlightened writer might suggest she has gone full native. She has apparently altered her appearance through atomic tanning sessions and a pact with the devil for kinky hair – which, ironically, cis-black women spend their entire lives fighting against – all in an effort to embrace her inner blackness and reject her German and Czech dead-ethnicities.

    (*’guys’ is now defined as being sexist…sorry)

    also

    You Think Being Trans-Black is Bad, Rachel Dolezal? Wait Till You Hear About My Problem…

    The problem is this: I was born Trans Class.

    Imagine how it feels to stare into your bathroom mirror every day and to see, reflected back, not the extravagantly be-sideburned, gimlet-eyed, red-cheeked aristocrat you know you really are, but just the pallid, gaunt features of a middle-middle-class nobody struggling to make a living, just like all the “little people”.

    Imagine waking up, not in the four-poster-bed that has been in the family for generations and which its rumoured Anne Boleyn once slept in, but just a fairly ordinary pocket-sprung number you picked up ten years ago from a boring high street chain with some name like SlumberWorld or DreamLand or Bed-U-Like.

    Imagine the stabbing agony you experience every day when you realise that nothing you ever do – NOTHING – is ever going to alter the fact that you will never have a foxhunt bearing your name (like the Duke of Beaufort does), that neither you nor in all likelihood your children, will ever inherit a 52 bedroom Baroque palace with 5,000 acres of parkland landscaped by Capability Brown and swarming with unusual-looking sheep, rare-breed cattle and exotic deer which your ancestor brought back from the Forbidden City in Peking.

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  101. theasdgamer says:

    Fuzzie was born trans-species, heh.

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  102. Spawny Get says:

    I hate to rain on Fuzzie’s parade, but he’s far too sane sounding to be otherkin

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