Pettiness — The Cost and the Benefit


FuzzieWuzzie directed readers to this post, Petty Revenge.   Wives, sometimes in their frustrations, take revenge on their husbands.  Behold,

When I’m annoyed I’ll put more broccoli on his dinner plate, or less sandwich filling in his sandwiches. Sometimes I’ll even turn the cold water on when he’s having a shower. It’s the little things.  

My “pettiness” has occasionally reached such heights that i have sneaked outside and flicked the power main off for a second…just enough to reset the modem and upset his ps3 game or tv viewing

Let us consider the benefit of this first.  For a fleeting period of time, a person gets a small revenge high.  That is about it.

Now, let us look at the minus side.  A wife and a husband are supposed to be a team.  A unit.  If one hurts the team, then one is hurting themselves.  Surprisingly, people cannot see this.  Perhaps it is because they do not really view the marriage as a unit; but rather as a utility.  This of course makes it easy to be petty.  Who after all, hasn’t raged at a cable TV company?

So if one catches themselves thinking and acting in a petty way toward their spouse, then it is wise to consider what you are doing, and what it implies.

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251 comments on “Pettiness — The Cost and the Benefit
  1. Tarnished says:

    Advice:
    Whenever possible, drop people like this out of your life like they’re a sack of boiled fish heads. This kind of acting out should be done by age 10.

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  2. Liz says:

    This reminds me of the video with the wife whining and shrieking like a toddler to her husband about wanting to go to the lake.
    Boiled fish heads yes. Boiled fish heads left in a hot car for 48 hours.

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  3. Liz says:

    That’s the one!

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  4. Spawny Get says:

    So much for Team my man.

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  5. Tarnished says:

    Wasn’t the My Man team disbanded around 40 years ago? 😦

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  6. Tarnished says:

    Wha…what was that? Was that woman possessed or something? Holy shite, I’d have carried her to the lake and dropped her tantrum throwing ass in it.

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  7. SFC Ton says:

    And that’s what the tradcons/socons want you to sign up for.

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  8. SFC Ton says:

    There was only a team My Man because it was forced on to them.

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  9. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Could the “Team My Man” concept have gone by the wayside when it became accepted that women were “the better half” of the relationship? Hubby did not come on board to be the servant to the Princess.
    A princess in real life could tell anyone that humility is a virtue and one that she would rely on heavily.

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  10. Spawny Get says:

    “There was only a team My Man because it was forced on to them.”

    It honestly looks like that might be true. It’s like they hate men on principle. Penis envy? Or brainwashing from the mental radfems.

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  11. SFC Ton says:

    They hate betas etc for not being apex alphas. Her not landing Prince charming etc and being forced to settle for a regular dude is undeniable evidence that she is in fact not all that. Complete destruction of validation. And that is the worse thing in the world for women.

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  12. SFC Ton says:

    Women are not complex they are convoluted. Once you have the basic operating system figured out its pretty easy to break down their words and actions

    Validation
    Attention whoring
    Alpha seed
    Beta bucks
    High status in the herd
    Risk aversion
    Pys Ops etc vs direct action

    Pretty much covers everything you need to know about them. Just about everything boils down to just a couple of things. Many of which over lap

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  13. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny and Ton,
    I think that you are right in that it is hate. I also think that this is a relatively new phenomenon. That they all want to draw their mates from a small pool may be at the source of this.
    We need to know for sure before we address, otherwise, we are going off half cocked.

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    We need to know for sure before we address, otherwise, we are going off half cocked.

    That never stopped the feminists

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  15. Yoda says:

    Complete destruction of validation. And that is the worse thing in the world for women.

    On to something there you are.

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  16. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    That this never stopped the feminists is of no matter. We have to think like partisans and conserve ammo.

    The post that this is drawn from, Stingray’s at On the Rock, really got to me. There are women out there that genuinely hate their husbands. How did this happen? How did they ever get married? Deti made a good observation, these are women who have no interest in havi8ng sex with their husbands. Again, how did they marry?

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  17. SFC Ton says:

    No Fuzzie people don’t love mules,and the most of men are mules to the most of women. Women played the game because they were dependant on men. labor required horse power the women themselves lacked. Those who didn’t where on their own, and not that far back, if she was to far out of line, no one would bitch about a man using his pimp hand. Fear keeps them in check

    Technology and feminism did not create these problems in women, they exposed what was already there.

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  18. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    SfcTon,
    I don’t think that mules were ever hated. If they had to go through what we go through, they would walk of the reservation with us, not out of sympathy but, knowing that men would treat them better.
    From what you say, the only conclusion to draw is that we are not fit company for each other. Men aren’t needed and they are making it abundantly clear.

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  19. Farm boy 100% in agreement w the post. well said.

    now, onto the lake biz. Wow that video was just painful to watch.

    I have a different take on it that may get me in hot water but hear me out.

    First, her behavior is way out of line for sure. Not ok.

    But am I the only one not feeling so great about his behavior either? And granted, I’m sure they have been to this rodeo before, and it is getting old old old.

    I would bet my bottom dollar there is a whole heck of a lot of backstory leading to this place. This is one moment, but much has led it here.

    If anyone is interested in attachment theory, this is the perfect example of the most toxic match in action. I will look up a link that can explain it much better than I possibly can. Short story: both of their very old unresolved stuff drew them to each other, so they could replay that old broken script.

    I just hope they did not have children witnessing all this. I hope they do not have children period.

    That whole video is just one big “don’t.”

    Ok let me find this link that explains what’s going down here: depth psychology style. Deep stuff, that.

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  20. General attachment theory background:

    http://jebkinnison.com/bad-boyfriends-the-book/attachment-types/

    This couple’s toxic combo:
    (Also one of the longest lasting “bad match” unfortunately, neither is healthy enough to pull the plug, their toxic combo is their bond, sad.)

    http://jebkinnison.com/2014/08/04/anxious-preoccupied-stuck-on-the-dismissive/

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  21. Depth psychology explained:

    http://www.whywesuffer.com/basic-principle/

    The whole blog is mind blowing eye opening stuff, IMHO. Much of what we do (as adults) we do to ourselves. Suffering is a choice (often subconcious but once concious, easily broken) Ommmmm.

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  22. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    I saw an interview with him, Paul Elam, and Tara Palmatier a few weeks after he posted the video on youtube. They were getting a divorce. No kids, I think. I couldn’t find the interview and i’ts over a year.
    What’s crazt id that feminists were condemning his taping the outburst. He had to have been at this rodeo before.

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  23. I am curious also about this neo masculinity thing Roosh is on about. I thought the same Spawney when he basically claimed to be the genisis of red pill, the father of heartiste and rollo. I don’t follow all that closely but does anyone know of heartiste or rollo responded to roosh’s claims?

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  24. @ fuzzie I would be interested to watch their take on it.

    What I see is a whole lot of pain and frustration and not good stuff there. That is NOT what love looks like. No, no, no. That is “love” gone wrong.

    And yes she is acting like a child. She is coming from a “child” emotional place. It’s not about her husband not taking her to the lake. It’s about someone long before him. Even though it seems completely counterintuitive, compassion (not giving in but simply compassion) from him would have disarmed this whole standoff. His dismissiveness only ups her neediness. It’s lose-lose.

    (Putting on my flame proof suit…ok…go ahead and blast me!)

    P.s. remember I am not saying what she is doing is ok, I am saying there is more than meets the eye there.

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  25. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    I went looking and didn’t find it.
    What would I have done in his shoes? Taken her home and got the maintenece done to the vehicle. The lake would still be there tomorrow.

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  26. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    Found it but it runs two hours as a podcast.
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/avoiceformen/2013/08/02/mwt-radio-lake-tantrum-special
    I didn’t take the time to listen to it again.

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    Women are not complex they are convoluted. Once you have the basic operating system figured out its pretty easy to break down their words and actions

    Validation
    Attention whoring
    Alpha seed
    Beta bucks
    High status in the herd
    Risk aversion
    Pys Ops etc vs direct action

    Pretty much covers everything you need to know about them. Just about everything boils down to just a couple of things. Many of which over lap

    Oh Boy. You need to write a post on that. It’s not Red-Pill basics, though. That’s advanced stuff. To see the truth of that you need to have been around the sphere for a while. A kid brought up knowing that will have a much better time dealing with women in the real world. NAWALT, but the ones that you have to watch out for, are.

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  28. Spawny Get says:

    Bloom,

    I’d look at the relationship between her parents. Did she learn that this behaviour works at mommy’s knee? This looks like a situation where you see the parents and think it’s terrible…but their daughter is okay, right? I mean she’s normal. She must see it’s no way to go through life. Is that a man putting up with that shit?

    I was disgusted when the Mangina Clan and the Femeroid Hordes swept in to blame it all on him. That video was the action of a guy pushed past the limit by her actions over time, but (I guess) still getting flak from everyone around him somehow blaming it on him. It’s a “I fucking told you that she was crazy” video. I hope that a huge number of guys quietly apologised to him for their accusations. ‘Real men(tm)’ would have done it loudly and in public.

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  29. SFC Ton says:

    No know one hates their mules per say Fuzzie, but mules are put down when no longer useful and the cost of feed/ up keep exceed their value in work. Bifirts law or whatever the fellas name is. That’s a goodly part of the equation.

    Where does the hate comes in? Women despise being rutted by betas (betas
    as know this heance their drive/ almost obsession to get her off as a measure of sexual success) because beteas confirmed her secert dread of being to low value to land an alpha. Therein lies the grounds for hate.

    Feminism is about man hate at it’s more extreme end, it’s about beta hate among the less radical rank and file. I think even more so sense it’s betas who tend to support feminism in the everyday living.

    In that video, compassion would have been failing the shit test and earned him more hissy fits down he road. She is like that because men, father etc complied with her temper tantrums. As it is, he did pretty good. Shit tests are not about what is going on at the surface level. Shit tests are about control. Fail them and she gains control, her vag dries up and the man looses frame control.

    The worse thing a man can do is loose frame. Loose frame to often and she is gone and your soul is crushed to dust. Maintain frame and your self respect and masculine pride stays in tact. Which makes it easier for you to dump that bitch and bang ten more.

    Him recording the temper tantrum would carry some weight in court. That’s why feminist hated it. They have to keep their bullshit secert to pull it off. They fear men collectively wising up and seeing that yes AWALT.

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  30. SFC Ton says:

    Re video

    His behavior was rational, consistent, calm and deliberate, based on consequences for her actions. Calling it into question reeks of team woman closing ranks.

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  31. Liz says:

    “But am I the only one not feeling so great about his behavior either? And granted, I’m sure they have been to this rodeo before, and it is getting old old old.”

    I’m sure it has gotten old, old, old. She’s texting friends about him and getting onto facebook and ranting and talking badly about him at work “everybody at work makes comments about you!” She’s an uber manipulative nutter. It is implied in the context that he’s trying to set her off so he can show what he has to deal with, to explain it to all the people she has been bad-mouthing him to, who believe her (“they’ll understand after they see this…”).

    To be frank, I can’t imagine living with that thing. I can’t really fault his behavior because if I’d had to live with that I’d have probably drowned her like a sewer rat. She needs to be in a padded room with a shock collar.

    Imagine living with someone like this. A person who turns into a hysterical lunatic at home, sweet to everyone else while talking about how hard it is to endure you.

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  32. SFC Ton says:

    Reckon most the men don’t have to do all that much imaging darling Liz. She is a version of theme and not particularly unique, expect by degrees

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    “Imagine living with someone like this. A person who turns into a hysterical lunatic at home, sweet to everyone else while talking about how hard it is to endure you.”

    I could have had the t-shirt had divorce been impossible. I was gone looooong before it got to that, but as soon as I could see her mother breaking through I knew it was going to become toxic. Never in lake girl’s league. But post break up she did enough for me to know I’d made the right decision. NO LOYALTY. That’s what got me. There was NO LOYALTY from her or her parents. I was just something to be bitched about and thrown into psycho-drama sessions with harpies at work. Harpies that she’d bitch to me about (until she realised I wasn’t interested in that kind of thing). I was her donation to the drama-fest. And then…she actually started believing the bullshit thrown out by people that had never met me! I suspect that my marriage was destroyed by her lack of loyalty, the bitchiness of her friends who did it just to make her life (and mine) worse and her gullibility in believing what these bitches said. Her parents bought into the whole drama too. They kinda-sorta apologised after it was all over. But they could have turned her around if they’d not bought into the drama themselves. I can only imagine what their story over the marriage is now, or only begin to imagine.

    Very few women dissent from the herd line when it comes to doing someone down. It’s a character thing found only in men and unicorn women – to stand up for someone else just because it’s the right thing to do. A key thing men want from their woman is not to fight the fight necessarily, but at least have his back. Have some damn loyalty.

    dismounts soap box, checks time, nope too early for a beer on Friday afternoon. Damn. At least it’s in the fridge waiting.

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    “His behavior was rational, consistent, calm and deliberate, based on consequences for her actions.”

    Yep. I don’t see that he had a better option. Except to have divorced the psycho bitch years before. She is not someone to raise kids with, she is a child. A fucking insane brat. The trouble with such women is that they can play normal and sweet until they reckon that they have hand. OR They actual are normal and sweet and then have some mental snap that turns them into this. Not that you can tell a trad-con that women change. They insist you can always tell…always.

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  35. SFC Ton says:

    Most women lack that fundamental level of loyalty to not talk shit about…. everyone and they have developed all sorts of smoke screens for their lack of basic loyalty. Like they just have to “vent”. It’s never gossip it’s always about venting before they lose their mind (yet they vent and still lose it) or helping poor so and so fell better, get closure etc etc. It’s all just hamsterbating

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  36. SFC Ton says:

    More then that listen to him

    I wanna go to.the lake
    We cannot, have to get the truck worked on
    You should have done that two days ago or whatever she said
    I could because I was doing bullshit for you on that day
    I want cigarettes
    Why didn’t you get them
    My car was down
    Why didn’t you take it to the shop on X day
    I want to go to the lake
    We cannot afford it
    Yes we can
    No we cannot because you are always bitching about money
    Etc etc etc

    Adult male dealing with a child’s temper tantrum. Calm and rational establishing a chain of events spoiled brat who needs a pimp slap

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  37. Liz says:

    “Most women lack that fundamental level of loyalty to not talk shit about…. everyone and they have developed all sorts of smoke screens for their lack of basic loyalty. Like they just have to “vent”. It’s never gossip it’s always about venting before they lose their mind (yet they vent and still lose it) or helping poor so and so fell better, get closure etc etc. It’s all just hamsterbating”

    This is so true. But I’d like to believe this is as much learned behavior as it is instinctive. I think it must be, because it is so out of control now in an environment where it is encouraged. Back when it was discouraged (social taboo), there was less…and heavily discouraged (social and legal taboos), almost never.

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  38. Liz says:

    Though, just thinking further…I guess women have always bitched. My mother did this with me. She’d do something to set me up so she could complain about me to others, often in front of me. She never said one nice thing about my dad and even bitches about him now that he is gone.
    This is probably why I’ve always felt very alone. (or did, until I met Mike)

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  39. Liz says:

    Boys rule! Okay, going to change my avatar again….
    How’s about some happy stories? We need more happy stories!
    Bear?

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    “Bear?”

    Beer. It’s mid-day

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  41. Liz says:

    Lol! No…I’m calling for Fuzzie. 🙂
    My avatar looks kind of like a mop when it’s miniaturized.
    Do you think people can tell what it is? Or should I change it again?

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  42. Liz says:

    I am sad.

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  43. Liz says:

    Probably hormonal.

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  44. SFC Ton says:

    Women gossip etc enough the Bible mentions it as a sin and for older women to train the younger women not to gossip

    These things we mention about women, all the various ancient collections of wisdom talk about as well

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  45. Tarnished says:

    Don’t be sad, Liz!
    Here, watch this:

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  46. Tarnished says:

    Bloom,

    Yes, he was baiting her a bit as you can hear him suppressing laughter when he talks…he’s obviously frustrated but still is having some fun pushing her buttons. Slightly manipulative? Yes, but if he didn’t, he wouldn’t have a video to prove his point. It’s a toxic relationship all around, probably 90% her doing.

    The thing is though, she should be adult enough to
    A) stop leaving her buttons open for pushing
    B) understand that she can’t always get her way
    C) stop being so needy
    D) realize that tantrums are for 5 year olds
    E) just go out on the lake by herself if it means that frickin much

    The issue in this video is not “the lake”. The lake is an unintentional metaphor for everything wrong in their marriage up till that boiling point…it’s obvious that it’s been simmering for a while and slowly creeping up in temperature, leading to the overflow we see in the video.

    The best thing for both of them would be divorce, hopefully they already have. He needs to either GHOW or find a woman who understands what it means to be an adult. She needs to not have *any* relationships for at least a year or two and learn to become an adult while getting help fixing her issues.

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  47. Tarnished says:

    New avatar options for Liz…though I do love the running Komondor pup.

    I offer you;
    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/007/445/pancake_bunny.jpg ?1249339142
    Oolong the balancing bunny

    and

    Stormtroopers riding hovercats

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  48. SFC Ton says:

    Personally I see no call to be sad or a pessimists at the individual level

    Yea big picture? Shit is fucked up but knowing that a man can plan for the futures

    In Liz’s case? Even less so

    Being a pessimist etc is for tradcons etc people denying reality and clinging to false hoods because they can see no other path to happiness and prosperity besides propping up a corrupt and dying system

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    You want cats?

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  50. Liz says:

    Thanks for the videos and picture Tarn and Swithy. (hugs) 🙂

    “Yes, he was baiting her a bit as you can hear him suppressing laughter when he talks…he’s obviously frustrated but still is having some fun pushing her buttons. Slightly manipulative? Yes, but if he didn’t, he wouldn’t have a video to prove his point.”

    I wouldn’t use the word manipulative there. How about demonstrative? He wanted to demonstrate what he has to put up with. I have no doubt he spends the vast majority of time with the nutter in silence. I also have no doubt there are an innumerable number of subjects that set her off into a fit. This was just one.

    Normally, he’d probably drop it (for his own sanity’s sake) after she starts throwing a shit fit, screaming and flailing and pounding the dashboard with her feet.

    This time he thought, “You know what? I’m going to record this so people will have some idea of what I’m dealing with. I’ll show them how she responds when I just try to have a normal conversation.”

    Ton: I’m typically very upbeat and happy, but sometimes thinking about my mom gets me down.
    Never for long though. 🙂

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  51. Yes I totally agree lake lady is a psycho, no doubt. Nor am I saying he caused that or he is wrong or it’s his fault or really that he could have done anything different. There just is no making a relationship w this dynamic work. But it’s a common and toxic dynamic, and one to avoid, for sure!

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  52. SFC Ton says:

    Don’t give the bitch free rent in your oh so tiny girl brain space

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  53. @ Liz I can see why thinking about your mom gets you down. Hugs! You are all the more impressive for your own having done different! Xoxoxo

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  54. Spawny Get says:

    Thanks Ton, I was just taking a sip of beer. That stuff stings when it comes out of your nose, you knows?

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    The Conjugal Unpleasantness Rights Guide

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  56. Spawny Get says:

    WOMEN FOR PITY’S SAKE DON’T DRIVE

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    Finally…Badfellas

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  58. SFC Ton says:

    LOL thanks be to the Almighty it’s only beer and not a serious party foul

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  59. Yoda says:

    Do you think people can tell what it is?

    Never a concern before this was.

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  60. theasdgamer says:

    Imagine living with someone like this. A person who turns into a hysterical lunatic at home, sweet to everyone else while talking about how hard it is to endure you.

    That broad is mild compared with Mrs. Gamer when she gets going.

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    Holy Crap, Gamer!

    The only thing I can think is worse is coming after you with a knife.

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  62. Lake girl brought to mind a memory:

    A few years back, a gal I was just getting to know (kids in same preschool) and I were going to the river. On the way she called her husband. When he didn’t answer, she left him the most venomous voicemail, calling him a miserable piece of s#it, loser,bastard, etc. she hung up and turned to me, all sweet innocence, continuing talking as if none of that had just happened– like jeckle and Hyde. Creepy. Her kids (and mine) were unfortunately in the backseat. We did not become friends. I heard they divorced. No surprise. 😦 I remember thinking no wonder he didn’t pick up her call.

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  63. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    The thing that stood out to me (because I’m an amateur, I suspect) is that she was absolutely losing her shit, but was still together enough to text. Might be a man/woman thing, but if I were able to text, I’d be able to keep my shit together. Because I was brought up to regard women as men with different plumbing, I’d be thinking the whole tantrum was a calculated act. And she wouldn’t be riding in my car anymore.

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  64. True cp, note how she just completely snaps out of it as she turns her attention to the phone. Based on her body language, i bet she was probably posting something like “we’re going to the lake, yay!” Or some such fantasy vs reality bs.

    Again, please don’t get me wrong, she’s scary for sure! I am in no way defending her or saying her actions are in any was acceptable/justified/etc.

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  65. Tarnished says:

    Of course it was calculated. See how about 2/3 of the way through she stopped going full tantrum to angrily telling him how everyone talks about him at work? She saw that a tantrum by itself wouldn’t “work”, and decided to throw in some attempts at shaming/threats of public name calling.

    Kids do it too, if they have parents without backbones or lacking any discipline techniques. Makes me wonder just how much of “daddy’s little princess” she was growing up…

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  66. Tarnished says:

    Lol. Bloom and I posted at the same time. 🙂

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  67. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    I doubt very much that she was posting “Yay! Lake!” I think it far more likely it was more along the lines of “Creepy husband abusing me!”

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  68. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    “Of course it was calculated.”

    Yeah, see, that wasn’t part of my training. Were I to be sure it was calculated, my “Psycho-bitchometer” would peg, she’d be on the side of the road, and I’d be headed out of country. Men are wising up, and that should terrify women.

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  69. @ cp that would be the correct response too. Going to this rodeo more than once is a fail. Cut loose is the only option here.

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Yep she knew what she was doing as they do for most shit tests.

    Let’s face it she is that out of control because a string on men didn’t put that bitch in her place. That’s how she has gotten her way for a very long time

    I also suspect the dude is semi new to the Red Pill. He played it like a boss to be, but probably married her before he was up to speed.

    I kind of hate to say it, but a man has no bidness marrying etc until he’s been through at least 30 women. 100 would be better but I reckon 30 would do

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  71. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Well, I know it’s not seven. At least in my case, I wasn’t interested/was unteachable until I was actually married and was forced into desperate measures. Then again, not everyone’s dumb as me.

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  72. Spawny Get says:

    “Were I to be sure it was calculated, my “Psycho-bitchometer” would peg,”

    Yep. I will not play those games. It’s over.

    Somewhere or other, I saw INTJs described as having the trait of ‘being the first to cut out and walk away from a perceived bad deal’. I guess we don’t value ‘sunk costs’ and are prepared to take it on the chin and admit that we fucked up and there’s nothing to be gained from prolonging the game.

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  73. missattempts says:

    My late mom and pa fought like cats and dogs. I didn’t know why, except it was
    lack of compatibility. She was born in the Year Of The Horse. He was born in the
    Year Of The Rat.
    On one ocassion I accompanied them to a store. My mother was miffed at something
    my father did, and dragged along. I heard this was a way women show displeasure,
    by making a man wait. It was surly behavior my father and I noticed. Later on, my
    father said to her: “You don’t know how much I hate you at times.” It seemed a very
    extreme reaction to me, but it was honest. When I questioned her about it, she said,
    “It’s not as bad as you think. He’s been hating me for 30 years.”
    Anyone interested in this kind of behavior should see the film, “Who’s Afraid Of
    Virgina Wolf,” (1966) It was an apt description of their marriage.

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  74. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    “I guess we don’t value ‘sunk costs’ and are prepared to take it on the chin and admit that we fucked up and there’s nothing to be gained from prolonging the game.”

    It is far more important to be right than to be seen as right.

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  75. SFC Ton says:

    Good point CP and for women ist the appearance that counts which is why they can be suckered in by so much bullshit

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  76. Yoda says:

    In limelight she must stay,

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/357137.php

    Let me quote from her windy introduction to her amateur rape porn. Read this carefully; this gives the game away.

    “”Ceci N’est Pas Un Viol is not about one night in August, 2012. It’s about your decisions, starting now. It’s only a reenactment if you disregard my words. It’s about you, not him.
    Do not watch this video if your motives would upset me, my desires are unclear to you, or my nuances are indecipherable.

    You might be wondering why I’ve made myself this vulnerable. Look–I want to change the world, and that begins with you, seeing yourself. If you watch this video without my consent, then I hope you reflect on your reasons for objectifying me and participating in my rape, for, in that case, you were the one who couldn’t resist the urge to make Ceci N’est Pas Un Viol about what you wanted to make it about: rape.””

    Please, don’t participate in my rape. Watch kindly.
    If you watch this video “without her consent,” you’re raping her. A video she’s putting up herself — not something hacked from her account.

    And what constitutes “consent”? That you watch it on the terms she demands, in support of her beliefs. That is, if you emotionally affirm her, then you have not raped her.

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  77. theasdgamer says:

    The only thing I can think is worse is coming after you with a knife.

    That would be a mistake on her part. No, she just screams louder and longer and more continuously (“You’re a SOB, you’re a loser, etc.”), throws my crap on the floor, mangles my glasses, stretches the clothes I’m wearing, etc.

    I should have divorced her after four years of marriage when she wouldn’t go with me to the University of Chicago. We had one kid then.

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  78. That Emma girl just can’t deal without having the attention, can she? What a weirdo.

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  79. theasdgamer says:

    Mrs. Gamer, like the broad in the vid, is very frustrated. We need to downsize our home and that would make housekeeping easier and keep our living expenses down. Mrs. Gamer won’t let go of our current house.

    Nothing to be done about her half-blindness, which she might have avoided had she gone to the doctor like I suggested. She can’t drive at night. More of a problem in winter. Rebellion has its cost.

    And Mrs. Gamer likes the four ten-hour days with Friday off, which also contributes to her frustration during those four days.

    And Mrs. Gamer is working 50-hour workweeks because her dept. is understaffed. More frustration.

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  80. I tried to view Emma’s video but the link didnt seem to be working, did she take it down already?

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  81. Gamer maybe I missed something but what’s this half blindness thing?

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  82. Tarnished says:

    Why *didn’t* you leave, Gamer? To protect your child?

    Like Spawny said above, INTJ = not being willing to put up with crap, emotional, physical, or otherwise.

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  83. Tarnished says:

    Maybe he means night blindness?

    And Mrs. Gamer is working 50-hour workweeks because her dept. is understaffed. More frustration.

    I can appreciate that. My work week is typically 60 hours…I only have off on Sunday.
    But that’s hardly your doing, and she shouldn’t take it out on you.

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  84. Alana says:

    My friend sent me this link–suggestion for why u’re single based on MBTI type. I laughed cos I think there’s some truth to it.

    http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/03/heres-why-youre-still-single-based-on-your-myers-briggs-personality-type/

    INFPs like Bloom and me:

    “You’re single because: You idealize the crap out of potential partners and then get upset when their reality doesn’t measure up.

    You’ll get into a relationship when: You meet someone who also wants the rest of his or her life to resemble a Nicholas Sparks novel.”

    Dammit.

    INTJs like a majority of u:

    “You’re single because: You over-analyze social interactions to the point where it seems easier to just avoid them altogether.

    You’ll get into a relationship when: A hell-bent ENFP follows you around for a long enough period of time that you eventually just accept that you’re dating.”

    Maybe u guys need to meet ur ENFP like Liz. 😄

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  85. Spawny Get says:

    My commiserations, Gamer. Could-a been me. The divorce absolute was imminent when my wife told me she wanted my children. If she’d decided that a year earlier…could have been an ‘oops’. The night she said that was the most depressing of my life.

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  86. Tarnished says:

    Holy cheese, Alana!

    That is precisely what happened to me, right down to the playfully “following” me around and “forcing” me to accept we were going to be FwB. He’s a solid ENFP, too.
    Liz and I are uber lucky. 🎉🎊💙

    Spawny,
    Wow.
    I’m so sorry, mate. 😦

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  87. Choicy says:

    Yeah Farm Boy, it’s pretty sad when women get the vindictiveness bug that bad. I can think of two slappers who got the feminism rabies and forced their husbands into the grave. Revenge against “him” was revenge against “The Patriarchy”, right? They were enough to make lucifer cry tears of blood, mate. A rogue croc never ripped up a man’s flesh half as bad as those mad bitches.

    My apologies to Cillo if I’ve spoken out of turn. It’s goodnight from Choicy, alone and alive.

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  88. Alana says:

    Aww Spawny, sorry that u were sad. 😦 😦 Apologies for my denseness, but were u depressed cos u were wistful abt wishing u could have kids? Or some other reason?

    Heh Tarn, it’s lovely to see that u and your ENFP are happy together. 🙂 When someone meets their right match, the sum is so much greater than the parts.

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  89. Spawny Get says:

    Alana,
    wanting out is very distinct from being happy about it. You might call it a safety mechanism that overrides the emotional wants.

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  90. Alana says:

    Btw Spawny, no need to share more if u don’t wanna.

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  91. Spawny Get says:

    Choicy, Cill’s a little quiet. He’s still alive, p’raps he’s pinin’ for M?

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  92. Spawny Get says:

    Alana, no probs. I don’t do that. We’re looking back nearly two decades, there’s no heat. Just residual regret. Nobody gets married expecting a divorce…

    No man, anyway. I don’t know WTF women and their discussions of starter marriages are smoking. I think it’s a revolting reflection of their desire to be the centre of attention at a marriage wedding. Repulsive.

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  93. Alana says:

    Oops, we posted at the same time.

    And I get what u mean, Spawny. 😦

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  94. Spawny Get says:

    Sharing my experiences, at my stage, is putting out information that might help other guys recognise their own situation, or avoid such a situation.

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  95. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    And remember, Spawny, this is for posterity, so be honest. How did you feel?

    (Not assigning motives, Alana. Just pissing in the pool of public discourse)

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  96. Alana says:

    Heh we posted at the same time, again.

    ‘Starter marriage’ is a loathsome term for a loathsome thing. Yuck.

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    It’s a male phenomenon called, ‘Save the next guy’.

    Women discovering they screwed up by getting frivorced seem to encourage their ‘friends’ to blow up their marriage as well. Toxic femininity.

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  98. Spawny Get says:

    “How did you feel?”

    Cut to bone. Extremely depressed. Like I’d failed (I’ve never purely blamed her for all of the problems). The normal stuff in divorce.

    But that after what she did during the split was not something that allowed for the marriage to continue. Ongoing marriage would have been a catastrophe for me – fact.

    “wanting out is very distinct from being happy about it. You might call it a safety mechanism that overrides the emotional wants.”

    I had feelings aplenty…but no options.

    INTJs have feelings, they try not to be driven by them. I did allow feelings to take the wheel when I got married… LMFAO… She asked me to marry her…I…fucked up by saying yes. There’s a lesson, multiple lessons, there for all men.

    If I’d been asked by anyone twenty years ago why I was getting married…the only answer would have been something like, “It’s what you do. Marriage. Wife. Kids”. Blue Pill to the max. I suspect that just about every other man here will say something similar. Some might add religion to the mix.

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  99. Spawny Get says:

    “It is far more important to be right than to be seen as right.”

    oh, yes. to me? yes.

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  100. Cill says:

    I’m still very much alive, Spawny me old cobber. I’ve just arrived here, early a.m.

    INTJs like a majority of u:

    “You’re single because: You over-analyze social interactions to the point where it seems easier to just avoid them altogether.

    You’ll get into a relationship when: A hell-bent ENFP follows you around for a long enough period of time that you eventually just accept that you’re dating.”

    Heh. Tarn is not the only one. It sorta resembles my situation too. It’s a good situation to find myself in, to be honest.

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  101. Alana says:

    ” It sorta resembles my situation too. It’s a good situation to find myself in, to be honest.”

    I’m sure it is, Cill, u lucky thing. 😉

    Have a serene and blessed day ahead, people! I’m going to bed.~ Zzz

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  102. Alana says:

    Hugs to Spawny the…lion? tiger? cheetah? Heh.

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  103. Tarnished says:

    It is, isn’t it Cill.
    To find someone who truly *gets* you, whilst simultaneously being nearly as different from you in petsonality as possible. You fill out each other in totally unexpected ways.

    It’s a wish of mine to see all my mates here find someone who does this for them, be it lover…friend…or just a companion.

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  104. Tarnished says:

    CP,

    A “Princess Bride” quote? Love it!

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  105. Cill says:

    Would it were that easy, Tarn.

    To make that wish for all our mates here, I mean.

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  106. We just need to find where the enfp types hang out and in it’s them to spawny’s for a meet and greet. They will take the intj stalking from there! Lol.

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  107. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    “A “Princess Bride” quote? Love it!”

    I blame a liberal education.

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  108. Tarnished says:

    I know, Cill.
    One can always hope though.

    Bloom,
    Not a bad idea. It’d have to be somewhere that our hypothetical ENFPs can shine. They love to be in the limelight…center-of-attention social butterfly weirdos that they are. 😉

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  109. Alana tis true, we are idealists. However, the upside is its a pretty easily cracked code: courtly, genetlemanly, romanticism, the usual flowers and such. We are simply suckers for such things. Nothing wrong with high ideals in the most important relationship in one’s life, I would hope. Likewise, we enjoy treating our mate just as abundantly and hold ourselves to high standards on our end as well. But it’s good to know to check thidealism. Also good to remember that it can be worked by dark triads professing tru wuv 4eva!!! And guard our hearts accordingly.

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  110. theasdgamer says:

    Why *didn’t* you leave, Gamer? To protect your child?

    I was in lurve, Mrs. Gamer was very hot, and religious reasons against divorce.

    Mrs. Gamer was generally very sweet to me. I didn’t realize the problem with her rebellion at the time. I was very Blue Pill. Mrs. Gamer didn’t start these emotional tantrums until much later. They were also very infrequent. She bottles things up and they come spilling out. Lately a lot more frequently.

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  111. Cill says:

    I just had a thought! Perhaps I could introduce a gaggle of PPPs to the blog. How ’bout that?

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  112. theasdgamer says:

    And remember, Spawny, this is for posterity, so be honest. How did you feel?

    Ok, dial up the torment one more notch in the Machine.

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  113. Spawny Get says:

    Yay! Cill’s starting his own blog!

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  114. Spawny Get says:

    It’s alright with me, Gamer. Old news. No kids. $5k all in.

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  115. Cill says:

    It will become widely known as “PPP Paradise”.

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  116. Cill says:

    … or “Cill and The Crew”

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  117. Spawny Get says:

    Ashley, an interview with a few PPPs could be enlightening. But Shirley no more than that.

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  118. Cill says:

    “Ashley and Shirley.” Another good title for the blog.
    Shouldn’t be too hard to find a couple of PPPs by those names. Make it truly topical.
    “Ashley Shirley Pumps and Dumps” could be the title of the first post, to start the ball rolling.

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  119. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Okay, so for the benefit of those that speak proper Murckin, Shirley immediately evokes ‘Airplane’, but Ashley is a blank, apart from Ash from Evil Dead. What’s the real meaning? Educate us foreign Devils, please.

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  120. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Yoda proves my point. I am not the only crank.

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  121. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Liz,
    Sorry to be so late responding. This is a good one. Sunshine Thiry is very sparing with her likes. Nobody gets hurt but the bear does get his point across.

    What I think got the bear really going was applying that tag. I think they rivet them to the bear’s ear, a most sensitive part of their anatomy.

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  122. Cill says:

    “Ashley and Surely”
    CP, it’s Spawny-speak for “Actually” and “Surely”

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  123. Spawny Get says:

    ‘Foreign Devil’!
    Sir, you delight me with your flattery. Cheers me ol’ mucker

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  124. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    That’s Mister Mucker to you, Limey. 😜

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    Having a good Friday, I gather. Good.

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  126. Cill says:

    It’s Saturday in the land of the living, pal.

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  127. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Better than some. And have you seen Evil Dead 2? Or Army of Darkness? I’d hate for you to judge based on The Evil Dead or Evil Dead. That would be an injustice. They were young, poor, and didn’t know any better. They made up for it when they had the funding. The remake I’ve got no excuse for. Corruption of Hollywood, I guess.

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  128. Cill says:

    Breakfast time. Marmite on toast.

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  129. Spawny Get says:

    Groovy!
    I’ve seen all four. And a couple of different edits of a couple of ’em.

    My favourite scene is the kitchen fight, which ends with, “That’s right uh-huh who’s laughing now?” Cracks me up.

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  130. Spawny Get says:

    Not real Marmite, Cill. It’s only yourself that you’re foolin’.

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  131. Spawny Get says:

    The retrieval scene in three is pretty cool. Klaatu Verata…Nicto mumble mumble

    I’ve liked Brucie since seeing him in Crimewave. Another fun film.

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  132. Spawny Get says:

    The remake wasn’t a fave of mine.

    Frightnight, however…magnificent. Loved both versions, in different ways.

    David Tenant was epic. Did you watch the cock up scenes? With the trousers?

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  133. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    “Hail to the king, baby.” You’re not responding in ignorance, so there’s that.

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  134. Spawny Get says:

    Shop smart, shop s-mart, baby

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  135. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Liz,
    I don’t know if you will see this but, it is a terrible thing to lose faith in your mother. That revelation came to me at age five and I was the oldest.

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  136. Spawny Get says:

    I’m on the hard stuff now, Bloom. Mango pop…no sugar added

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  137. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    While I think it was Alana that wanted to see Emma Sulkowicz’s video, here it is. While I haven’t read the post, I watched the video. My first reactionn was “attention whore” is an understatement for her and the second was WTF?
    http://www.returnofkings.com/65421/mattress-girl-emma-sulkowicz-makes-a-rape-sex-tape#!

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  138. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    In my last comment, the post that I linked had Roosh as first commenter. He warned men that things will get very weird, very soon.
    I had no idea it would be quite this soon.
    http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2015/06/sexual-re-education-camps-coming-soon/

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  139. Sumo says:

    How the hell did I miss out on the Evil Dead/Army of Darkness convo?

    “You ain’t leading but two things – Jack and shit. And Jack left town.”

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  140. Farm Boy says:

    A PPP on the loose,

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11459276

    A teacher who seduced two of her pupils – including ‘sexting’ them and pulling one boy out of classes so they could have sex – has lost her teacher’s license, but will not face criminal charges over the inappropriate relationships.

    Melanie Hendriks initiated sexual relationships with the St John’s College pupils when she was a drama teacher at the Hamilton school.

    During that time she engaged in sexual acts on school premises with one of the boys, known as Student A, and excused him from classes, study periods and assemblies so they could have sex, a Teacher’s Council disciplinary decision said.

    Ms Hendriks also sent the student text messages – the contents of which are too graphic to print – and sexy and provocative photographs. The photographs were taken on school premises and during school hours, and were sent to Student A during school hours, the Teacher’s Council report says.

    The communication continued even after she was stood down from the school in November last year, when the allegations first emerged.

    “I can’t stop thinking about us,” she told him.

    A second pupil, Student B, began a sexual relationship with Ms Hendriks after she gave him a number of lifts home from school and took him into her drama room to “talk about ‘us”‘, the decision says.

    She took him home up to 15 times, and they had sex in the back of her car four times, it was claimed.

    Ms Hendriks also sent Student B text messages, including one in which she encouraged him to lie to his mother so he could get out of the house and meet up with her.

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  141. Tarnished says:

    This vile piece of crap is not a PPP. She is a predator, a potential statutory rapist, and just overall scum. Those who use the power of their authority to force people into having sex with them are just as disgusting and worthy of punishment as those who use physical means.

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  142. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    “And Jack left town.”

    Well hello, Mister Fancy Pants.

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  143. Cill says:

    Sex between teacher and pupil is bad per se, but it looks as if this case is worse than just that.

    Principal Shane Tong is not exaggerating when he describes the pupils of St John’s College as “fine young men”. I have little doubt that Melanie Hendriks would have initiated the sex in each case and applied pressure for it to continue. Her pressure on one of the boys to lie to his parents was a giveaway. The fact that she wasn’t satisfied with the sex at the school but hounded him after hours as well shows she was Predatory and Promiscuous and undoubtedly a Princess.

    I have to agree with Tarn though. The regular PPPs, appalling though they are, are angels compared with Melanie Hendriks.

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  144. Yoda says:

    I don’t know WTF women and their discussions of starter marriages are smoking.

    Hypergamshish.

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  145. molly says:

    I’ll sneak in here while it is quiet. It’s silent as a church, eh. Is it safe as a church tho, is Sumo around? Shhh…. I can hear myself breath…
    Can I hear my own thoughts? Nothing. Not a sound…

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  146. Sumo says:

    Churches are generally safe from The Mighty Sumo. I have a slight aversion to bursting into flame.

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  147. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Molly says that it is too quiet. I have the cure for that!

    It’s good to see you!

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  148. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    I have to concur, PPPs are angels compared to a teacher preying on students. There is a lot of this going around but, I hadn’t thought that it had gone overseas. It is cfurious in that it takes the whole presumed male dominant/female submissive and turns it on its head.
    Tarn is correct to be so disgusted. It is all about abuse of position and power.
    They keep geeting away with it or, better stated, the better looking the ooffender, the more likely she is to skate.
    Another thought. Given that some of the boys will be pschologically unprepared for sick sex, where are they going to go for help? They have nowhere to go with this.

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  149. molly says:

    Heh heh I was kidding. My big cuzzie told me Bad Sumo would protect me, and big cuzzie is never wrong with things like that. 😉

    Good to see ya, F. W. Bear !! 🙂

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  150. molly says:

    Your video broke the silence, Fuzzie Wow!!

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  151. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Molly!
    Here’s another.

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  152. Cill says:

    Fuzzy, I can’t prove it but I suspect women exploiting boys – including prepubescent boys – for sex has for a long time been much more prevalent than society will admit. Society turned a blind eye because sex is “always” pleasurable for males. Physically it is pleasurable, but psychologically not always for young boys when older women are “doing” them. Men are likely to laugh and say “Lucky young bugger” if they hear a young boy has been exploited for sex. Although it is physically pleasant or even comforting for a kid at the time, he knows very well it is secretive and his parents would be furious if they found out. He becomes part of a nasty little conspiracy with the older woman and if he’s honest by nature, he hates the deceit of it. Exploitation of young boys by women does damage the boys.

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  153. Sumo says:

    My big cuzzie told me Bad Sumo would protect me, and big cuzzie is never wrong with things like that.

    Of course he isn’t wrong; I just wouldn’t be able to do much for ya in a churchian setting, due to the aforementioned aversion to spontaneous Sumo combustion. 😉

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  154. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    It’s that these oys are being exposed to sick sex before they have a chance to experience healthy sex.
    Thisw is not good.
    I do have to agree that it likely has gone on, in one form or another, for time out of mind. Men tend to give women a pass because little boys can’t get p[regnant. However, last year a juvenile was ordered to pay child support on reaching majority. Another teacher/student affair and she kept the baby.

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  155. Cill says:

    “a juvenile was ordered to pay child support”
    Yeah I’ve heard of that Fuzzy –
    The Muslims punish a woman for having been raped. We punish a boy by forcing him to pay money for having been raped. The reason for the former is Troglodyte shit, the reason for the latter is Feminist hate.

    In view of this, let the lugged mattress be an artistic depiction of small-minded feminist hate.

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  156. Yoda says:

    Bear videos like more I do

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  157. Cill says:

    Yoda what? Tchaikovsky like not you do?

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  158. molly says:

    Yoda the trampoline bear likes. ❤

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  159. Cill says:

    Understood, Sumo bro, understood.

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  160. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    One of these days, I will find bears playing musical instruments. Until then,

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  161. Cill says:

    Crusaders vs Auckland Blues 5 minutes hence, at which time I either watch the game or lose the will to live.

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  162. molly says:

    And I’m going out. Enjoy the game cuz! Goodnight all 🙂

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  163. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Have fun all!

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  164. @ fuzzie well I watched Emma’s video and… I don’t know what to say. It makes me sad. Casual sex is so… Yuck. Putting oneself in such a position w someone you don’t really know or trust, not good. The whole thing is so emotionless, on both sides. Yuck. The video should be a big “don’t” warning I would hope to men and women. Don’t do casual. This stuff destroys one’s soul. There is nothing sexy, erotic, or enriching to be bad from encounters like this, even before the controversial part. Just don’t. 😦 it can be so much more beautiful an meaningful and loving than this. And it’s a lot better when it’s not “just sex” too. IMHO.

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  165. Spawny Get says:

    BREAKING NEWS

    Nun of That has arrived

    Beer’s in the fridge ready for tonight. Today is going to be better than I expected.

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  166. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    You can go ahead and call me mercenary but, it takes a lot to start a sexual relationship. I would want to come back for more. A point to consider, it would be best if both were good company for the other too. Gee where is this reasoning leading?

    Spawny,
    Nuns with guns!?!? You showed a posterr of a sequel with a Nun holding two of these.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schofield_Model_3#Schofield_Revolver
    Impressive.

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  167. Alana says:

    “Nothing wrong with high ideals in the most important relationship in one’s life, I would hope. Likewise, we enjoy treating our mate just as abundantly and hold ourselves to high standards on our end as well. But it’s good to know to check thidealism.
    Also good to remember that it can be worked by dark triads professing tru wuv 4eva!!! And guard our hearts accordingly.”

    U’re right, Bloom, including about having to check the idealism. Knowing our MBTIs isn’t just about finding out what we’re like, but also about knowing what weaknesses and issues we’re prone to, and working on those. Idealism at a reasonable moderate degree can bring happiness and affirmation to ourselves and the pple around us, but idealism at the extreme is just flat-out naive, foolish and problem-causing. Not just in romantic rships, but at a macro/societal level too.

    …Is your chick wearing sunglasses? Lol.

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  168. Alana says:

    “While I think it was Alana that wanted to see Emma Sulkowicz’s video, here it is.”

    Fuzzie Wuzzie, it wasn’t me who asked for the video, as I didn’t even know it existed till now haha. But thanks for the link, I’m looking at it now–this girl is disturbed! Gd grief. I thought Columbia was a good university, how did she get in??

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  169. Alana says:

    Then again, there are book-smart pple who are nutty. I guess it’s not that shocking.

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  170. SFC Ton says:

    [SG – I removed the ‘m.’ just after the //]

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  171. Spawny Get says:

    They send their kids to ‘Gaia Democratic School’ and wonder why their kids end up under the ‘care’ of weirdos…

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  172. Spawny Get says:

    I misquoted last night! It’s; “uh-huh…that’s right…who’s laughing now?”

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  173. Spawny Get says:

    Other great inspirational lines from transcendent works of philosophy

    “I have come here to chew bubble-gum and kick ass…and I’m all out of bubble-gum.”

    The whole thing

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  174. SFC Ton says:

    Love that movie Swpany. And it’s basically the truth disguised as a movie

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  175. Liz says:

    I’m not much of a poet unlike Padawan and bloom but even I feel inspired after reading ton’s article.
    It’s rough. I’m on the cell and out righ now but here it goes…

    At Gaia Democratic curriculum’s fantastic
    For future hoes pimps and thieves
    Parents claimed shock
    That the subject was cock
    And positions requiring ones knees
    Always clear by the name, it must be said
    The agenda was subtle as a dildo painted red

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  176. @ Liz, you are a poet, you just don’t know it! 🙂 bravo!

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  177. Liz says:

    Thanks bloom. 😛

    I’m sitting in the parking lot now waiting for the library to open so I can loiter there. Too many bugs outside to cop a squat at the park. It’s all very glam.

    Had to drive my oldest to SAT testing today and the place is and hour and a half from our home. Small town environment so there’s nowhere else to go really. I hate reading and writing on my cell. Time to read through the posts now.

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  178. Liz says:

    “That broad is mild compared with Mrs. Gamer when she gets going.

    Just saw this. That sucks. Sorry gamer. 😦

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  179. Spawny Get says:

    Best of luck major-minor

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  180. theasdgamer says:

    @ RPG

    Gamer maybe I missed something but what’s this half blindness thing?

    One eye only has peripheral vision. Diabetes thing.

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  181. Spawny Get says:

    “@ Liz, you are a poet, you just don’t know it! 🙂 bravo!”

    Ironically, the complete mirror to Padawan’s situation.

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  182. Liz says:

    Thanks Swithy! 🙂
    This highschool is interesting. There are actual crabs roaming the halls. Not the type of crabs that has been virtually eradicated by modern day grooming habits, but actual sea crabs! One just snapped close by. It was hiding by a railing on the stairway.

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  183. theasdgamer says:

    As regards an early divorce, I lacked confidence in relationships. I knew that there was something non-normal about myself, but didn’t know that it was autism. Mrs. Gamer is three years older than me and she was popular with everybody. I figured that she knew a lot more about relationships than I did (not necessarily so). My social understanding was underdeveloped and I assumed that this carried over into relationships (which it does somewhat). So, I relied on Mrs. Gamer’s judgment too heavily and I was Blue Pill to boot. I should have been more selfish about pursuing my mission.

    My social understanding has caught up a lot and now I can Monday-morning quarterback my own decision-making. I didn’t have a Red Pill friend to ask for advice.

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  184. Cill says:

    asd you’ve given some good advice to me.

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  185. Tarnished says:

    Bloom, I didn’t know you did poetry like Padawan and myself! Do you post it on your blog?

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  186. Liz says:

    Sorry tarn for leaving you out.
    I forgot you did poetry!

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  187. @ tarn I haven’t broken out in verse for awhile, I should go so more often!

    It was actually that rascally Padawan that got me started, we got into a fun and spirited rhyme-off on the j4g board and it was not appreciated by the moderator at the time. He must not have been a patron of the arts?

    That was the first time I had written poetry in years. I was highly encouraged to pursue poetry by my first poetry teacher only to have my verse attacked by the next prof who was a bitter failed best era poet who apparently taught classes with the intent of squashing dreams of a poetry future in the bed. And it worked. I stopped writing poetry. Until padawan! It was a very gleeful and healing release. I felt bad our mutual mirth caused such a ruckus. Oops.

    And actually, it wasn’t about us, anyway!

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  188. Poems With Padawan

    By Bloom
    Recovering Poet

    There is something just divine
    About playing around with rhyme
    And on one this truth does dawn
    His name is simply Padawan
    He loves poem so he can scare contain
    The need to riff a refrain
    About singing to the sea
    Or other things that bring him glee
    Let padawan be a guide
    For those afraid to abide
    Just let the rhymes amble out
    And fret not at all about
    Whether others think them good
    The secret to be understood
    Is that if rhyme brings you joy
    Then a poet you are forevermore!

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  189. Cill says:

    Heh I just did Bloom’s test ( http://jebkinnison.com/bad-boyfriends-the-book/attachment-types/ ) and I’m Secure!
    Wee hours of the morning here, nothing else to do so I thought what the heck I’ll do this test.

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  190. Spawny Get says:

    Re poetry (the first bit, the rest is for the laughs)

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  191. Padawan says:

    Bloom (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)

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  192. Farm Boy says:

    This here is all much more artistic than Emma Sulkowicz’ art.

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  193. Spawny Get says:

    According to your questionnaire responses, your attachment-related anxiety score is 2.22, on a scale ranging from 1 (low anxiety) to 7 (high anxiety). Your attachment-related avoidance score is 2.33, on a scale ranging from 1 (low avoidance) to 7 (high avoidance).

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  194. Padawan says:

    Heart (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)

    All of this is Shirley art
    Speshly Padawan’s big red heart

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  195. Spawny Get says:

    Speshly Patrick’ly Padawan’s big red heart

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  196. Spawny Get says:

    Very generous ‘like’ there Cill, I was working it hard.

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  197. Cill says:

    Browny points are awarded for trying, mate

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  198. Cill says:

    According to your questionnaire responses, your attachment-related anxiety score is 1.22, on a scale ranging from 1 (low anxiety) to 7 (high anxiety). Your attachment-related avoidance score is 1.56, on a scale ranging from 1 (low avoidance) to 7 (high avoidance)

    Spawny and I are secure. We’d both make a good catch. lol
    I wonder if the Movie Star Good Looks gave him a head start in the test, though?

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  199. Spawny Get says:

    I think you have to care a little. But as the guy, you can’t live according to her moment to moment feelings about you. (Speaking as a divorced guy… 😉 ). A woman with my scores is not a woman I’d marry, however. Her worrying some about your stable and sensible attitude to her, should matter to her. It should be a stabilising influence on her…I reckon. Just an opinion.

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  200. Spawny Get says:

    I married at your age…like I think you might be sensible to do…seeing as you want kids and have a great candidate (or so I’ve heard).

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  201. Liz says:

    We be back home.

    Left son number two in charge, for the first time I think. Everything seems to be in order. No casualties.

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  202. Tarnished says:

    No worries, Liz!
    Did you like the “Xmas carol” I parodied for you before? 😉

    Bloom,
    Tell me about it. Some of the guys over at J4G weren’t fond of our (Padawan & me) poetry battles. *sniff* They just don’t appreciate the finer arts, it seems.

    Cill & Spawny,
    I took the test as well:
    According to your questionnaire responses, your attachment-related anxiety score is 1.22, on a scale ranging from 1 (low anxiety) to 7 (high anxiety). Your attachment-related avoidance score is 1.81, on a scale ranging from 1 (low avoidance) to 7 (high avoidance).

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  203. Liz says:

    Just took the attachment style quiz. My results would be different, I’m sure, if I had a number of different relationships. I’m squarely in the ‘secure’ category.

    Attachment-related anxiety score is 1.83
    Attachment-related avoidance score is 1.56

    My sons are calling me to play poker now. Texas hold ’em.
    This could be interesting.
    I’ll see which one has the most Italian in him…

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  204. Tarnished says:

    A woman with my scores is not a woman I’d marry, however.

    *sigh* See? I knew it wasn’t meant to be, Spawny. 😉 😛

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  205. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn and Cill,
    given the usual arbitrariness of some of the questions and even more so the answers…we end similar…damn. Freaks.

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  206. Cill says:

    M is due home today. After she has done the attachment-related test, I’m going to make her a special treat. Marmite on toast.

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  207. Spawny Get says:

    “*sigh* See? I knew it wasn’t meant to be, Spawny.”

    I’m going to tread carefully here *hic* I’ve been doing DIY which I traditionally consider justification for beer with qualifying.

    You’re not the type to need external stabilisation. Which you’ll note was my primary reason for my statement.

    Given your sex-drive, I doubt I’d have much ability to build tension over any issues. As with most men, quantity of sex does wonders with my outlook on life. <<– wise women keep this in mind.

    So we're down to the three thousand miles, three decades and immigration rules keeping us safe.

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  208. Spawny Get says:

    “Marmite on toast.”

    That’s the spirit! Don’t wait for marriage. Start the domestic abuse early.

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  209. Spawny Get says:

    “I wonder if the Movie Star Good Looks gave him a head start in the test, though?”

    Just relaxing at the end of the day, so I wouldn’t disagree with those numbers, but I regard them merely as indicative rather than specific.

    Qiestions like ‘do you care if your partner agrees with your decisions?’
    is it time to change the tyres on the car? don’t care
    what colour curtains should we have in the lounge? don’t care (over to you baby…probably 😉 )
    should we have kids? yeah…bit of a biggy

    Not as bad as the Psych0 test used to diagnose Tarn, but still not great.

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  210. Yoda says:

    Pr0n discussion on new thread there is

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  211. Tarnished says:

    Lol! I was gonna say, Cill…did you plan this revenge for a while now, or what?

    Spawny,
    Truth.

    This brings up a question that I see on various red pill subreddits from time to time. A guy posts about how he essentially has a “perfect” relationship: calm, fun, and anti-drama girlfriend who keeps up with her looks + his desire for sex…He has “it all”, in other words. Yet he wants to know how to build tension, either as a preventative to (so far) nonexistent shit tests or because he is bored with his ability to get affection on demand.

    As you spoke of building tension, what do you think a guy in that situation should do?

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  212. Spawny Get says:

    “calm, fun, and anti-drama girlfriend who keeps up with her looks + his desire for sex…He has “it all”, in other words”

    Yes he has. Sounds great. Maybe he should have had a psycho girlfriend before this one?

    I did mention that you were a unicorn, right?

    “preventative to (so far) nonexistent shit tests”

    Perhaps, deep down, he doesn’t believe in unicorns? I do see where he’s coming from. Not saying that he’s right.

    “he is bored with his ability to get affection on demand.”
    don’t think that I want to comment on this right now.

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  213. Cill says:

    I thought the Marmite on toast would be a nice, Secure gesture, is all, especially as a lot of thought and effort would go into it:

    Slotting the bread into the toaster
    Pulling the bread out of the toaster
    Spreading butter on the toast.
    Spreading the Marmite on the buttered toast.
    Slicing the toast diagonally with a very sharp knife
    Placing the toast tastefully on a plate
    Taking no more than one chomp (two at the most) out of a corner of the toast
    etc

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  214. Liz says:

    ‘“he is bored with his ability to get affection on demand.”

    This is either proof that some guys like drama. Or, this is not a guy, but a chick.

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  215. Spawny Get says:

    Slotting the bread into the toaster
    Pulling the bread out of the toaster
    Spreading butter on the toast.
    Spreading the Marmite on the buttered toast.
    Slicing the toast diagonally with a very sharp knife
    Placing the toast tastefully on a plate
    Taking no more than one chomp (two at the most) out of a corner of the toast
    etc

    Sorry mate, but that’s hardly 9 1/2 weeks, know what I mean?

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  216. Tarnished says:

    Arrrgh, I wish I could find the link but my break is over now. It was in one of the RP subreddits…op sounded very much like a guy…admitted he missed the “thrill of the chase”…they were young (early 20s)…he was her first, she his second. Half the commenters told him to enjoy what he had before she became a AWALT or said they’d kill for what he had. Other half said he should dump her because he obviously needed more pussy/experience.

    If I find it later, I’ll post the link.

    TTFN.

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  217. SFC Ton says:

    1.5
    3.94

    Which is probably about right for any man with some understanding of how women operate.

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  218. Liz says:

    Tarn, my husband probably would have said that about his ex girlfriend. The reason he felt that way was, he didn’t actually like her very much.

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  219. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Padawan big red heart???

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  220. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I took the attachment test.

    According to your questionnaire responses, your attachment-related anxiety score is 3.31, on a scale ranging from 1 (low anxiety) to 7 (high anxiety). Your attachment-related avoidance score is 3.22, on a scale ranging from 1 (low avoidance) to 7 (high avoidance).
    This puts me well withinn the secure quadrant of their graph.

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  221. So the attachment test, there are no “bad” answers bc these attachment decisions happens long ago and were based on factors out of our control.

    However understanding your style, and your partners, and they yours can help.

    Secure: lucky enough to be born into a situation where things were stable and their needs as an infant/toddler were met. The world is safe is the assumption. Secures “bounce off” unhealthy folk, so they tend to only tolerate a healthy pairing. (Not that secures can’t struggle w other stuff like money, addiction, etc)

    All the rest are a response to unmet needs as an infant/neglect/abuse/parents were ill or unable/etc. three out comes:

    Anxious avoidant: responds to lack by seeking more attachment. overly preoccupied that the relationship is ok. Abandonment fears. May pull the plug if abandonment is feared. Reassurance soothes, withdrawl spirals. Best paired w a secure who responds to their needs which in time helps them build inner security.

    Avoidant: responds to lack by deciding to self compartmentalize, rely on self. Can see needing others as weakness. Neediness drives them away. Very self reliant and self sufficient. Can lack empathy. Best w a secure who does not interpret their autonomy as rejection or abandonment.

    Anxious avoidant: responds to neglect by relying on self, but still longs for connection. May seek connection yet sabatoge it or not move forward out of fear of attachment and loss. Wants a relationship but also unable to take the risk. Best paired w a secure who can help them feel it is safe, they can take the risk.

    That’s the short version, lots more to it than that. Understanding your and your mates style can help avoid much drama. Takeaway point: if you have kids, provide them w what they need, they will be secure. If your partner is not a secure, that is their journey to build and heal themself but understanding their struggles and how to help them can help.

    Not being a secure is not a pass for bad behavior. It’s not the hand you were dealt that counts as much as how you play it.

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  222. Alana says:

    I remember taking that test months ago, and both scores were extremely low, in the low 1s. Very secure attachment. Actually part of me wanted to be avoidant, so my score was a bit disappointing. :p (I blame my parents and the very nice pple I grew up with). If I remember correctly, approximately half of pple are in the secure category, so it’s not rare.

    Frankly as I was taking the test and almost always picking options at one extreme, I was finding it hard to believe anyone picked options at the other extreme. But some people do, and that’s quite depressing. It seems almost impossible to be happy if your scores are like in the 5s and 6s.

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  223. Spawny Get says:

    I ended up with a lot of ‘agree’ and ‘disagree’ rather than ‘strongly…’ meaning I ended up with 2s, rather than 1s. Why not ‘strongly’? because for many of the questions I could easily thing of scenarios where (while I ‘agreed’ generally), I disagreed in that case. Iron rules in muddy circumstances are poor rules, IMHO.

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  224. Alana says:

    2s are still very secure scores though, Spawny. (That avatar crackes me up btw).

    It’s been months since I took the test, so I looked over the questions again. And for some of the questions, I wouldn’t say it’s definitely ‘healthier’ to pick strongly agree/disagree instead of agree/disagree. For eg, “I tell my partner just about everything.” Sometimes your partner doesn’t need/want to hear about Everything…Lol.

    Plus there may be a gender component to it. For questions like “I feel comfortable depending on romantic partners”, it seems reasonable that a man is a bit more wary of depending on a female partner, even if they have a good rship, because he feels like he should be strong and not depend on others much.

    But overall I think it would suck to have a score that isn’t in the secure category. I’d hate to live like that.

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  225. Alana says:

    I just took the test, got:
    “your attachment-related anxiety score is 1.28…Your attachment-related avoidance score is 2.12”.

    Oh no, I seem to have gotten a bit more avoidant over the past few months…perhaps learning more about human nature on this blog is to blame! Lol.

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  226. Spawny Get says:

    “a man is a bit more wary of depending on a female partner, even if they have a good rship, because he feels like he should be strong and not depend on others much.”
    Yep.

    I do think a man should be able to rely on his partner having his back.

    I suspect women want the guy in front of her.

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  227. Spawny Get says:

    “perhaps learning more about human nature on this blog is to blame! Lol.”
    LOL indeed

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  228. Liz says:

    I think the answers depend on one’s partner. I know my answers would be 180 out from what they were if I was taking that quiz when dating my ex. I’d have been on the uber-side of avoidant.

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  229. theasdgamer says:

    Bloom, your interpretation of results is based on women’s views being the correct way to perceive things. Ton gives a RP perspective on healthy test results for men.

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  230. theasdgamer says:

    Wow, I’m even more avoidant than Ton! A lot more! Maybe it’s due to autism?

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  231. theasdgamer says:

    This post is about the opposite of sweetness. About how women chisel men in relationships. Does that contribute to men’s avoidant behavior?

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  232. Liz says:

    “Does that contribute to men’s avoidant behavior?”

    I’m sure it does, Gamer. I could not be more certain, actually.

    Side note: Great new gravatar image Bloom! 🙂

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  233. SFC Ton says:

    Got to have a balance
    To advoident and you’ll drop plates
    Not advoident enough it’s an express ticket to AFC status

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  234. theasdgamer says:

    @ Ton

    I’m sure I drop plates…need more pull and a little less push…kind of hard to change now, though. Although, there’s this gal I recently met who said she’d come to dance with me at a venue. I like her as a preferred dance partner. I invested a lot of dances in her last night. Very nice and sweet right now, but I just met her. It’s easier to find a gf than a preferred dance partner.

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  235. SFC Ton says:

    You want to keep the prize just out of reach. Not so far away they cannot see that full commitment/ looking you down and putting you to the cart. Just a tad out of reach.

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