Why not Boris?

We’re talking Johnsons here, not Yeltsins.

From a couple of years ago.

Not so much a simple car crash, more…

And an analysis in the admittedly lefty Grauniad

It must have seemed a good idea at the time. A 15-minute light grilling on the morning BBC sofa with whichever stand-in presenter the corporation had dredged up to fill the void left by Andrew Marr, still recovering from a stroke. Nothing that an old hand like Boris Johnson need fear.

Tousle the hair a little, some self-deprecation and a bit of a plug for the BBC TV documentary on Monday to remind the Tory backbenchers that if the ball ever popped out of the scrum, he would be on hand to take it, almost accidentally, over the line. A spot of liberal differentiation from his school chum David Cameron on the benefits of migrants might provide with him an entry to the likely story of the day, the prime minister’s imminent speech on migrants and access to social housing. But after the 15 minutes of chilling inquisition by the softly spoken Eddie Mair, Johnson’s reputation had taken a severe pounding. Indeed, it was probably the worst interview the mayor has ever conducted.

After the opening exchanges – “Good morning, how are you?”; “Very, very good, thank you” – Johnson went downhill at an alarming pace until by the interview’s close, admitting he had “sandpapered” quotes as a Times journalist, failing to deny he lied to the party leader at the time, Michael Howard, about an extramarital affair and conceding that he had humoured an old friend when he asked for a phone number in the knowledge that the friend intended to beat up the owner of it.

By the interview’s close, “You’re a nasty piece of work, aren’t you?” was one of Mair’s more generous reflections on Johnson’s integrity.

Doubtless Johnson had been lulled into a false sense of security by the opening minutes in which he was able to hint, without providing incontrovertible proof, that he thought Cameron was misunderstanding the importance of migrants to the London economy.

But then Mair took the interview on an unexpected turn, and asked Johnson why he had agreed to be interviewed for the Michael Cockerell documentary. Johnson flannelled before, saying he had not seen the programme. Suddenly Mair’s tone changed lethally: “But this happened in your life, so you know about this. The Times let you go after you made up a quote. Why did you make up a quote?”

It is impossible to describe the menacing politeness of tone in which Mair specialises, or his ability to pause mid-sentence to maximise the impact. Johnson asked plaintively: “Are you sure your viewers wouldn’t want to hear more about housing in London?” It was, he added, a long and lamentable story, to which Mair replied: “OK. But you made a quote up.”

Johnson was cornered. “Well, what happened was that … I ascribed events that were supposed to have taken place before the death of Piers Gaveston to events that actually took place after the death of Piers Gaveston,” he said.

“Yes. You made something up,” Mair replied. Johnson said: “Well, I mean, I mildly sandpapered something somebody said, and yes it’s very embarrassing and I’m very sorry about it.”

With this admission trousered, Mair continued: “Let me ask you about a barefaced lie. When you were in Michael Howard’s team, you denied to him you were having an affair. It turned out you were and he sacked you for that. Why did you lie to your party leader?”

Johnson squirmed. “Well, I mean again, I’m … with great respect … on that, I never had any conversation with Michael Howard about that matter and, you know, I don’t propose …”

Mair interrupted: “You did lie to him.”

Johnson: “Well, you know, I don’t propose to go into all that again.”

Mair: “I don’t blame you.”

I must admit that reading that last bit that I quoted made me cackle.  I’m not sure that that humour travels well, but this is masterful work with a stilleto.  Here it is again

Mair interrupted: “You did lie to him.”

Johnson: “Well, you know, I don’t propose to go into all that again.”

Mair: “I don’t blame you.”


So, don’t be fooled by his good-natured, bumbling buffoon…but with hidden abilities schtick.  He has an act which plays well with people who don’t look any further than that.  But when the mask slips?  Not so lovable is he? (see above).

This type of thing was why I said yesterday that the GoT cards were rather generous in some cases, vis


General Election 2015 – Politicians as Game of Thrones characters

Unduly kind there, would you not agree, folks?

In the last few days a few Tories tried out the line that one should vote Tory because after Call-me-Dave fails to get a straight majority (almost guaranteed that he will so fail), the mantle would be slipped from Dave’s much unloved political corpse and on to Gool Ol’ Bumblin’ But Sharp-As-A-Dagger Boris’s shambling form.

Here’s were that all went to shi…pot.  I’m amazed to say that I think Ed Millibland actually beat Boris.  Ed winning anything is a red-letter day event.

No Boris, no thank you.  By all means get rid of Call-me-Dave, but don’t expect to slip the mantle of leadership onto Boris and get good results.  Your biggest issue, Conservative Party INO, is that there aren’t any other great viable candidates either, are there?

The contenders include (from the GoT link)

Michael Lannister (11)

Theresa Lannister (13)

George Baelish (20)


Why not Boris?
That’s why. With interviews like those in the can, ready to be whipped out at the right time…what happened to his chances?

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47 comments on “Why not Boris?
  1. missattempts says:

    The road to hell is INDEED paved with good intentions.
    Unreformed “reformers” can destroy a country 8 ways to Sunday.
    John Lennon”s first version of “Revolution” was astute. Free YOURSELF instead.
    The second version of “Revolution” in which he counted himself “in,” came from
    an embittered ,drug addled,mind.


  2. SFC Ton says:

    Reform is always about transferring power/ resources from one group to an other but reform has the air of moral superiority and doesn’t get the scrutiny it should


  3. Farm Boy says:

    If one needs a clown for a job, why not Bozo?


  4. Spawny Get says:

    Gallipoli: When Murdoch Went to War
    Documentary. The story of the disastrous British-led Gallipoli military campaign from the perspective of Keith Murdoch, an Australian journalist and father of Rupert Murdoch.

    To commemorate one of the First World War’s most important and dramatic anniversaries – the Gallipoli campaign of 1915 – this hour-long special tells the true story behind the ‘Gallipoli Letter’, written in September 1915 by a young Australian journalist, Keith Murdoch.
    According to journalistic legend, Keith Murdoch’s letter toppled a general, shook a government and ended the bloodbath that was Gallipoli, one of the most infamous calamities of the First World War. The truth, however, is both more fascinating and more complex.


    With interviews and testimony from Rupert Murdoch, Sir Max Hastings, Sir Hew Strachan and other experts, plus dramatic reconstructions based on Keith Murdoch’s own writings, this documentary tells the story of a young, ambitious journalist who visits the killing fields of Gallipoli and becomes embroiled in a scheme to evade the military censor. When top-brass generals, cabinet ministers and press barons become involved, the scene is set for a political struggle in which reputations are destroyed, careers are made and the foundations for a new journalistic empire are laid.

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  5. jf13 says:

    Wow, Mair is good.

    For the benefit of the ignorati, which evidently include Boris and his Trumped-up hair, let me offer this helpful reminder: Conservative is not at all identical with “sucking up to the rich”.


  6. Choicy says:

    Gidday Spawny how are you going. I was interested in your BBC Gallipoli link, mate. Only trouble is, it’s forbidden to us plebs outside the U.K. BBC iPlayer TV “programmes” are available to play in the UK only. What is it you Poms don’t want us to hear, eh mate? Can it be any worse then the way you spell “programmes”?


  7. Spawny Get says:

    Hi Choicy,

    I watched the documentary and it was interesting. Whether it’s the last word in balanced, I don’t know. I’d guess that it’s reasonably so, it expanded my knowledge (which wasn’t hard). I had thought that Gallipoli was pretty much only a ANZAC campaign, it wasn’t. The proportion of the populations of the nations killed was what really stood out in their case though.

    The numbers of ANZAC troops that died were a hideous percentage of the nations’ populations. The English mirrors to this phenomenon were the Pals Battalions

    Several of these battalions suffered heavy casualties during the Somme offensives of 1916. One of the most notable was the 11th (Service) Battalion (Accrington), East Lancashire Regiment, better known as the Accrington Pals. The Accrington Pals were ordered to attack Serre, the most northerly part of the main assault, on the opening day of the battle. The Accrington Pals were accompanied by pals battalions drawn from Sheffield, Leeds, Barnsley, and Bradford.[2] Of an estimated 700 Accrington Pals who took part in the attack, 235 were killed and 350 wounded within the space of twenty minutes.[3] Despite repeated attempts, Serre was not taken until February 1917, at which time the German forces had evacuated to the Hindenburg Line.

    The practice of drawing recruits from a particular region or group meant that, when a “pals battalion” suffered heavy casualties, the impact on individual towns, villages, neighborhoods, and communities back in Britain could be immediate and devastating. With the introduction of conscription in January 1916, further Pals battalions were not sought. Most pals battalions were decimated by the end of 1917 and beginning of 1918, and most were amalgamated into other battalions to regularise battalion strength.

    I think that Australia and New Zealand suffered this on a national basis.

    From wiki Gallipoli Campaign

    Only one Dubliner officer survived the landing,[96] while of the 1,012 Dubliners who landed, just 11 survived the Gallipoli campaign unscathed.[97]

    There was a drama programme made about this Pals’ Battalion (or Company in this case) some years ago

    The events of the day later gained significance due to the loss of a company of the Norfolk Regiment. Having been recruited from men who worked on King George V’s Sandringham estate they were dubbed the “Sandringham Company”. After being isolated and destroyed during the 12 August attack it was rumoured that they had advanced into a mist and “simply disappeared”. This gave rise to legends that they had been executed or that they had been taken by some supernatural force, but some members were later found to have been taken prisoner.[161]

    The programme ends on how Murdoch’s report was fed into the narrative of the Generals are throwing the lives of men away (one that’s pretty hard not to agree with). One part of the programme described troops without ammo throwing stones at armed Turks (who had artillery backup. This narrative was a political attack against the set of aristos in power, by the aristos in opposition. Murdoch milked what was a very real issue, his point of view was naturally that of his own nation. It certainly was not just a matter for the men of the ANZAC battalions, it was a murderous campaign involving the first opposed landing of troops via the sea

    Dead Wounded Missing&Prisoners Total
    Ottoman Empire[5] 56,643 107,007 11,178 174,828
    United Kingdom[228] 34,072 78,520 7,654 120,246
    France[229] 9,798 17,371 – 27,169
    Australia[230] 8,709 19,441 – 28,150
    New Zealand[230] 2,721 4,752 – 7,473
    British India[230] 1,358 3,421 – 4,779
    Newfoundland[230] 49 93 – 142
    Total Allies[228][230][229]56,707 123,598 7,654 187,959

    It’s when you view those numbers as a proportion of the nations’ populations at the time that you understand the crushing nature of the death toll on the smaller countries.

    If you were to have VPN access to the UK you could watch the video via that link, or even download it. The highest res version would be 650MB…I imagine.

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  8. Spawny Get says:

    The Sandringham Company film was All the King’s Men (1999)

    Feature-length drama about the mystery of Sandringham Company, which disappeared in action at Gallipoli in 1915. Commanded by Captain Frank Beck, their estate manager, the men advanced into battle, were enveloped in a strange mist and never seen again.
    – Written by Martin Pollard
    On the outbreak of World War One the male staff at the royal residence of Sandringham are swept along by the tide of jingoism and all enlist including 14 year old George Dacre, who lies about his age, the recently-married Ted Grimes and the elderly estate manager, veteran soldier Frank Beck. Blissfully ignorant of the horrors in store they arrive at the Dardanelles, where Beck is shocked by the lack of supplies and organization. Camped on a beach to await orders they are easy prey to Turkish snipers. Ultimately they go into action at Gallipoli where they are apparently swallowed up by a cloud of mist and never seen again. Only Ted, wounded by a sniper and a prisoner of the Germans, returns to Sandringham. Although the queen mother, Alexandra, sends men to try and discover the soldiers’ whereabouts, only Beck’s watch is ever found.
    – Written by don @ minifie-1

    I’ve seen it it (years ago), it was okay. I suspect the gung-ho attitude that got these kids killed is the same as that throughout the young men in the Commonwealth. That and the bitches handing out white feathers.

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  9. Choicy says:

    Thanks for the info mate. For the Kiwis, Passchendaele was worst than Gallipoli.


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  10. Choicy says:

    At Passchendaele like Gallipoli there was plenty of incompetence in upper class officers. Haig and godfrey between them fucked it up something dreadful. The silly pricks didn’t allow for front wheels sinking in more than back so artillery trajectory (supposed to take out barbed wire and german macine gun positions prior to Kiwi charge) rained straight down on the Kiwi troops. The battered Kiwis were then ordered to charge the barbed wire and gun positions which were undamaged. It was a turkey shoot for the Jerries. Kiwi General Andrew Russell knew it would be a disaster but Godfrey wouldn’t listen to him.

    Yeah feelings still run deep. Like Cill said there were Brits and Scumbrits. There’s scum in any nation. Plenty of bogans in Aus, mate.

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  11. Cill says:

    Gidday Choicy you reprobate bastard! What are you up to?


  12. Choicy says:

    Keeping me nose clean, Cillo me mate. And you?


  13. theasdgamer says:

    There was a voluptuous brunette with blonde hilights who was wearing flip flops, so she kicked them off to dance with me in her bare feet at my country bar. A woman in love is willing to crawl over jagged obsidian to be with her man. She 5h1t-tested me on seeing me 4 the 1st time in months. Complimented my “pimp” shirt (my phraseology, not hers). She wanted 6 bear hugs after dancing. She was in a dance fantasy. Lasered me with her eyes while we were dancing. I said she was a sweetheart and she responded in kind. I gave her a very rare kiss on the cheek, then immediately turned to leave. Not much into PDA. For some reason I was feeling affectionate towards her. I turned to look back at her and smiled. She smiled and blew me a kiss.

    The key point is that the woman was willing to risk injury to her feet to dance with me. Tingles.

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  14. Cill says:

    Yeah I’m all right Choicy. Much of the same, mate, much of the same. You been bitten by the insomniac bug or something?


  15. Choicy says:

    No mate, I went out on the wallop a couple of nights ago and woke up beside a face (I think it was a woman) that could scare a pack of hungry dogs off a butcher’s truck. It scared me shitless and I haven’t hardly had a wink of sleep since.

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  16. Spawny Get says:

    Latest ‘Gold Standard’ polling with all their fiddling with (which does UKIP down) removed. Other issues that disfavour UKIP exist. From a comment on Guido’s blog.

    “ICMs voting intention question prompts for the Conservative, Labour and the Liberal Democrats parties, but not UKIP.
    It would be interesting to know if they prompted for the SNP within Scotland ?
    They also apply ‘weighting by past votes cast’ (GE) for undecided replies (Don’t knows or refused to say).

    So non weighted and with the “Don’t knows” and “Will not vote” replies still included, the poll looks like this (Table 2) –
    Conservatives 22%
    Labour 21%
    Liberal Democrats 4%
    Green 4%
    UKIP 10%
    Undecided 21%
    Will not vote 8%

    I wonder how many of those 21% of undecided voters turn out to be shy-UKIP voters in the voting booths ?

    May 8th could be very interesting.


    Look at the Tory and Labour numbers…that’s a mandate?


  17. Spawny Get says:

    Mound of the Hound of the Baskervilles, Choicy?


  18. Spawny Get says:

    Also from Guido:

    The Northampton Police report finding a man’s body in the River Nene, near Becketts Park. The dead man’s name will not be released until his family has been notified..

    The victim apparently drowned due to excessive beer consumption.

    He was wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a pink G-string, a strap-on dildo, purple lipstick, and a ‘Milliband for PM’ on 2015 T-shirt.

    He also had a cucumber in his rectum.

    The police removed the Ed Milliband T-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.

    In spite of what we sometimes think, the Police do care.

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  19. Cill says:

    Well that doesn’t sound much like keeping your nose clean there, Choicy, but you’ll recover mate. You always do.

    Anyway that was a good point you made about every nation having its scum. We have our fair share of them too.

    What beats me is how in places where whites are indigenous e.g. Europe they insist on diversity (i.e. promoting imported cultures ahead of indigenous) while in places where others are indigenous (e.g. NZ) the indigenous people are given special separate status and rights. It’s not always the fembot anti-white male thing either. It happened against non-Malays in Malaysia too, as Alana mentioned, which especially affected the Chinese Malaysians. I knew some who emigrated for that reason.

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  20. Choicy says:

    Hey Spawny “He also had a cucumber in his rectum”.
    You know they say “You can’t make this stuff up”. You’re not, are ya?


  21. Spawny Get says:

    Nah, mate. Bloke in comments on a blog said. S’truth it is.

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  22. Choicy says:

    I’ll take your word for it Spawny, though thousands wouldn’t. (wink)

    theasdgamer my interest is pricked with the voluptuous brunette with blonde hilights who was wearing flip flops, that sounds a bit better than my experience the other night. I looking for anything to cheer me up a bit. Has there been anything positive from that sheila since?


  23. Cill says:

    Spawny looking back say a couple of months, would you have predicted UKIP as high as 10% at this stage?


  24. Cill says:

    What gets me is the proportions of those numbers.

    Conservatives 22%
    Labour 21%
    Liberal Democrats 4%
    Green 4%
    UKIP 10%
    Undecided 21%
    Will not vote 8%

    UKIP near 50% of Conservatives or Labour and beating the arse off Liberal Democrats and Greens.


  25. Spawny Get says:

    That’s 10% when LabiaCon are on 21-22. ie before they strip out non voters and redistribute the undecided in a way that downplays UKIP (they use past voting results from when UKIP was very fringe).

    Recent polls have UKIP’s ‘corrected’ support between 13 to 18%. LabiaCons are then in the low thirties.

    But what if non-voters decide to vote ‘fu’kip (vote UKIP as an fu) and undecideds break more for sending a message too?

    Tories say kippers will come home to stop Miliband…been saying that for a while…hasn’t happened yet.

    May 8th could be very interesting. Scrub that. It will be fascinating.


  26. Choicy says:

    Me mates, the famous Choicy constitution is starting to wilt and flag under the strain. Sleepiness is closing in. I’ll have to leave you diggers to live it up without me. Goodnight.

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  27. Cill says:

    Sleep the sleep of the dead, Choicy mate.

    “It will be fascinating”
    You can put a ring around that one, Spawny bro.

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  28. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    As Spawny linked an Adolf Hitler video upthread, I’ll link an appeopos retort.


  29. Choicy says:

    “It will be fascinating”.
    I concur with you and Cill Spawny bro.

    The link at your comment 8:44 pm http://www.icmunlimited.com/da
    Is it the right link? “Look at the Tory and Labour numbers”. I’m interested to see the numbers. Can you correct the link address mate? Thanks.


  30. Spawny Get says:

    Looking now. As a start, the comment that I copied from was on this post on Guido’s blog


  31. Spawny Get says:

    Food for thought about this ‘gold standard poll’

    Cloaked buggerer • a day ago
    Let us see here…

    ICM ‘gold standard’ Euro election polling, 11 days before election in May 2014.
    UKIP 15%

    Actual result
    UKIP 26.6%

    So the question is, do we multiply this figure by 1.78 or just simply add 11.6?
    It’s either 23% or 24.6% on this basis.

    Sounds about right.

    Vote UKIP!


  32. Spawny Get says:

    Nick Wood’s Campaign Commentary: Cameron is running out of time to turn the tide

    We are near the end game – in fact, nearer than we think. For political leaders desperate to melt the glacier of apparent electoral indifference, time is now very short.


  33. Spawny Get says:

    Reader’s Comment of the Day: Does it matter which mediocre pipsqueak occupies No 10?

    In response to Nick Wood’s Campaign Commentary: Ten days to save our country. Can Dave find the passion to get the message across?, Oliver J.S McMullen wrote:

    But Cameron and his party are part of the problem – not the solution, as this article seems to be suggesting. His management of the Scottish referendum was risible to put it mildly – panicking at the last moment when it seemed that the vote might actually go the “wrong” way.

    As for the “sheer muscle of the two big parties” – what is big about them? They are both moribund failing organisations that represent almost no one. The Tories are steadily losing members – I’ve seen figures quoted of well below 100,000. Both parties would keep us in the European Union, a status which means we are no longer a sovereign nation state anyway. We are already living with an alliance of the Left (social democratic liberal Tories) and the far left (Liberal Democrats). All the main parties are variants of social democratic liberalism, offering no genuine choice. In this context Ukip is a response to failure – a symptom not a cause.

    The author references the supposed economic recovery – based on what? We apparently produce very little of concrete export value. The country floats along on a dangerously inflated house price bubble fuelling cheap credit. Our prosperity is an illusion. We have been lucky with the low oil price, but how long will that last? And how long before interest rates have to rise – will we be able to service our colossal national debt? No, we will eventually have to default on at least a significant part of it. We will all then have to get used to living within much reduced means.

    So bad is the situation that we have Lord Tebbit of all people suggesting that Scottish Tories might be better off voting Labour in Scotland – presumably in a forlorn attempt to save the Union. This in what Peter Hitchens of the Mail on Sunday rightly describes as the most fraudulent election in living memory. The entire political system is broken; lies and delusions are the norm. So does it matter which mediocre pipsqueak occupies No 10 Downing Street? Neither of them can win an outright majority – this is a good thing. With luck they’ll all be reduced to squabbling impotently amongst themselves as the looming economic and financial crisis forces the rest of us to face a very bleak future.


  34. Choicy says:

    Thanks Spawny me mate. Read all links and understood all of ’em.. sorta. So to speak, as they say, if you see what I mean. Wish I could vote but, They also serve who only stand and wait.

    Wee hours of the morning in my locale, second late night in a row for Choicy. I have a date with me pillow. Good night.


  35. Spawny Get says:

    Sweet dreams and happy awakenings


  36. theasdgamer says:

    @ Choicy

    theasdgamer my interest is pricked with the voluptuous brunette with blonde hilights who was wearing flip flops, that sounds a bit better than my experience the other night. I looking for anything to cheer me up a bit. Has there been anything positive from that sheila since?

    Sorry, mate, no news. Didn’t get her no. It was late and I was tired and it slipped my mind. Maybe next week. It occurred to me that the sheila got under my emotional shield, what with me giving her a kiss on the cheek and saying that she was a sweetheart. I was a bit touched by her exuberant bear hugs. I thought that Fuzzy might have something to moan about that. Bear with me.


  37. Cill says:

    Nick Wood: “Faced between a choice between another front page story on what is widely regarded as the most boring election in living memory and adorable pictures of the newly arrived fourth in line to the throne, there will be little need for an editorial conference.”

    Yeah? This election could trigger big changes in the history of the planet, seems like the wrong part of the planet has got the vote. Well at least some of you don’t think it’s boring. Hence this post.

    Hell, apart from women’s magazines and their readers, no-one Down Under could give a toss about the “newly arrived fourth in line to the throne”. It’s dead boring, Nick.

    Boring pollies? Yep. Boring political parties? Yep. Jaded performances? Yup. Boring election? Nope.

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    “Boring pollies? Yep. Boring political parties? Yep. Jaded performances? Yup. Boring election? Nope.”

    Nailed it

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    Lorra lorra laffs

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  40. Choicy says:

    Borro is embarrassing. Some of those upper class jokers ooze disrespect for dinkum jokers like you and me mate. He doesn’t care, or he wouldn’t sit there beside Eddie wider than a choir boy’s arsehole. Yeah he rubs me up the wrong way. Get a life Borro you egg.

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    think I got the gist of that, Choicy. Nous sommes d’accord. Which is as foreign as wot u sed.

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  42. Choicy says:

    Glad Looked up ^^
    I’m a wanker! Worth a listen, is it what!

    Speaking of lorra lorra laffs, Cillo’s pretty quiet isn’t he? He’s usually up all night, where is he now?

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    Aha! Finally a fellow cultured bloke wot understands the significance of lorra lorra laffs…well done.

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