At the suggestion of Bloom, here it is. Be creative. Suggest early, suggest often.
“A Women’s Study degree will leave you uniquely qualified for so very many careers”
[SG – Thread winner at comment #1? Greedy]
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“That student loan debt? You can get your future husband to pay it off”
“Yes, we’d be glad to have him enroll in our classes, subject to certain rulez. Any man is welcome to study women, but only if I can be certain he is sincerely trying to study women from a woman’s point of view. So there are certain, uh, procedures he will have to undergo.”
“No. Your tuition dollars are not being consumed by excess University administration. Diversity coordinators are worth every penny”
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“No, no. The room you want is second hall to the left. This is the anti-non-cis-gendered Womyn’s Studyz class, currently.”
“Welcome to Intersectionality 101. I had my creepily ambiguous assistant non-exploitatively hand out some initial self assessment forms, which you should feel free to fill out, or not. Let’s find out what you can hope to get out of this class. Raise your hands, if you have at least one, or feel free to raise or not raise anything else you might have or not have.”
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“You will notice that we spell certain words differently here. Many people take that for stupidity. But it isn’t. Really. Truly”
“Why, yes. I am the author of your $120 textbook.”
“Facts and logic are social constructs”
“I’m sorry to report that the departmental Recognizing Microaggressions workshop has been canceled again due to unresolved disagreements.”
“We will provide you will spellchecker modifications”
“Micro-aggressions are not the only thing about men that are micro”
“Why, yes, I suppose you’re right. It might seem strange at first to have Men’s Studies in the Women’s Studies department, but you’ll get used to it soon enough.”
re: spellchecker modifications
You’ve sussed out the Whole Plan! People that spell the same, think the same!! She who controls Spelling is Queen Witch. Who, coincidentally, happens to be my ex ….
“With many things related to women, the fashion, in this case of ideas, around here change regularly”
“Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated”
“Men are, by and large, superfluous. After obtaining sperm from a relative few, we could do without 80% of them, keeping some to mine, work in agriculture, and construction.
“Misandry isn’t a word.”
*Points out that it is in fact a word, gives first examples of where/when it was used, and defines it accurately using the original Greek terms.*
“Ok, technically it is a word. But it doesn’t mean anything of relevance to society, so it’s almost a non description.”
Also known as “The Argument Where Women Can’t Be Sexist Against Men Because Penis”.
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“The most unfortunate thing about abortion is the inconvenience”
“We have our classes during the day because the evening is for other pursuits”
Yes that’s right, every male student must take and pass this women’s studies course to graduate. (Mwah ha ha ebul laugh). Now again Ralph, you were saying that you disagree with all sex being rape and all men being abusers? Go on….class comments do count toward your grade! Speak up!!!
Is there a physiological women’s study program specif to the geographic regions of a human female’s body?
Cheryl, did I see you holding hands with a male student yesterday? You know he just wants to rape and abuse you. Or you would if you were paying attention in class. I think you need to repeat the course…oh you graduate this term? Apparently not!
To her On-call Abortion Specialist (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)
If it’s white with a dick
Give it the flick
Why isn’t there a men’s studies course? Why would you even ask that? There’s no reason to study men, they have oppressed and repressed and controlled that narrative all along. All you need to know about men is that they hate and oppress women, and the are rapists and abusers.
Four out of five of the women in this class either have been raped or will be raped. The women in this class will also make 60 cents on the dollar just because they don’t have a penis. Where did those statistics come from? Why everybody knows this, it’s just fact. End of story.
Somebody prescribe a valium for RPC
Today we are going to have a special guest speaker, her chilling story was bravely published in Rolling Stone magazine, but of course then men forced the magazine to retract the story and make up lies, because all men are rapists and abusers. It’s a proven fact that all rape stories are absolutey true and even questioning that is skin to the victim being raped all over again.
Um yes, can you move your mattress over a but dear so she can get to the front? You are such a brave strong girl, you speak for all women who are too ashamed to admit they were taped, too. everywhere.
Instructions To Her Undercover Vasectomy Squad (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)
If he’s white with a dick
Give him the nick
Trigger warning: all sex is rape. That means every one of you is a product of rape. All of your dads are rapists, like all men. I know, it’s hard to think of your dad that way, but remember it’s on the final exam.
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Math and science are hard.
Ok today we are going to do an interactive project. All of the men in the class, go stand under that sign that says “I am a rapist” ok women, go stand under the sign that says, “I am a victim.” Ok what did we learn today? Tonight’s assignment is for you to write 500 times what it says on the sign above your group. Due tomorrow. Oh and yes it’s 30% of your grade. Extra credit for every 100 extra times you write it. Unless you are a rapist, naturally.
I’m sorry, I know you did every assignment and passed every test and agreed with everything I said, but I have a policy against giving rapists credit for this class. You really should be ashamed of yourself!
Yes math and science are hard. Why? Because men invented math and science to oppress women. Math and science are sexist.
(I am obviously having too much fun with this!)
*I’m 18, standing in line with my (male) friends in the library at our high school, waiting to put my name down for the Draft. One of the librarians, well known as a die-hard feminist, noticed me and came over to our line.*
L: You know you don’t have to be in this line, right? Women don’t have to sign up.
T: I know. But all my friends do, so I’m going to also.
L: Why? Do you want to join the military?
L: But there’s a good chance you’ll be injured, maybe even just in training.
T: I know.
L: *frustrated* You know women have died, even without being on the front lines. Do you want to risk that?
T: No. But my friends don’t either, and they don’t get a choice.
*Looks at me like I slapped her. Says “Oh…” and walks back to her desk.*
Somebody prescribe a valium forRPG
Feel the force flow through you.
Let it calm you.
Thoughts of Women’s Studies brings out the Dark Side it does.
Release your anger.
Men don’t reals!
Have The State as “Who’s Your Daddy” (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)
Wed the Great Alpha and soon you won’t need
He who put up the erection
Wed the Great Dad and it might as well be
The Emaculate Conception.
Intelligent Men are our Enemy!
Size don’t matter except when the head down below is smaller than the one up there.
“How can you be raped. Let me list the ways.
“Here is the inspiration for the Feminist’s plan for world political domination”
“All criticism of Hillary is sexist”
“Andrea Dworkin is our God”
(The things I said above are not far off what my women’s studies teacher was like in college. I have been waiting 20+ years to make fun of it! 🙂 )
Oh and class, this seems obvious to me, but apparently one can never be specific enough: when i said all sex is tape i meant all *heterosexual* sex is rape.
STEM is Hard (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)
Good things are fem like a Hen with a Pen
Better than Cock, the Hen is,
Best is, we know it’s the fault of Men
That STEM is more hard than the Pen is
Moe know what Women’s Studies is he does?
(Back then I would have identified as a feminist but even so she seemed like a complete loon! And she had so much power bc it was a required class to graduate. Otoh, she was so extreme, she made me question feminism and how far and what it really meant, so I guess it was good!)
“Today learn how to be a victim we will”
Feminist gets dumped very politely by a guy. Sends godawful text and freaks the frak out.
If man opens a door for you, what he is secretly saying is that you are inferior bc you are a woman. The correct response is to tell him, “stop trying to oppress me!”
“Oblong rocks symbols of the Patriarchy they are”
Yes well, young Yoda asks “Moe know what Women’s Studies is he does?”
Just judging by the tone of the Women’s Studies Prof’s comments, I think she might go down like a whore’s drawers among the Moehau Man womenfolk of the rugged Coromandel.
As Mrs Moehau Man (my straight old mum) said, “She strives to save herself the overhead of the 5th aperture, you know, and confine herself to mouth, ears, and anus, like a bloke.”
Phallic symbols are proof of man thinking he is better bc-penis! Washington monument, Empire State Building, Eiffel tower, Chrysler buildings. There are all secretly saying “I will rape and abuse you — because I can!”
“If man opens a door for you, what he is secretly saying is that you are inferior bc you are a woman.”
Huh. And here I always just thought they wanted to be able to look at your ass… 😉
Btw, I found the best way to pick up women. A piano:
Exactly Tarn, that’s a good point — he’s also eye raping you!
they wanted to be able to look at your ass
True for me this is.
At eye level asses would be.
As well true for me
Quality ass level with eye pleasant to see
A plus minus the panty
Result: Increased blood to wee wee
See class, what these two men have admitted under anonymity is the REAL truth! Eye rapists! Abusers!
Also class note that Tarn looking at your ass is ok because –vagina! Tarn cannot be a rapist.
Also class, beware “nice guys” tm. They are only being nice to you so they can guilt you into feeling you owe them sex, aka rape, later!
It is a good thing you are taking this class, otherwise you may not even realize you are a victim! Women power!
We’ve Finally Done It! WE KILLED LA DIFFÉRENCE:! (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)
I peeped in to say good night
When I heard my child in prayer.
“And for me a scarlet ribbon,
Lovely ribbon for my hair.”
All girl shops were closed and shuttered
Girly outlets, all were bare
Not one ribbon, lovely ribbon,
Scarlet ribbon for her hair
If I live to be a hundred
I will never know to where
Went those ribbons,
All those ribbons
Lovely ribbons for her hair.
All people need to love vaginas. Even gay men. Otherwise, oppression.
“All women deserve a steam cleaning down below like Gwyneth Paltrow does. It is our right. Men dirty it up, so they should pay to clean it up”
(I am pretty sure I have exhausted things my old women’s prof would say, it was pretty repetitive, but maybe something more will come to me.)
You are on a roll! Keep going!
Do you think this may help with Bloom’s prof?
“When your father restricted your dating, was he protecting you or oppressing you?”
“This building was built by men to oppress women. As such, we will adjourn class and reconvene outside”
“The projector’s light bulb just died. What should I do?”
“A piece of chalk in my hand I do hold.
A phallic symbol of oppression by the male professors of old it was.”
Question for you: was your Women’s Studies Prof sane? Subscribing to an ideology to that extent can’t be sane. Then there are the tenets held sacred by that ideology.
She was scary fuzzie, I can only imagine how the guys in class felt
(Meanwhile the girls and I elevrated an 80 degree sunny day w a BBQ and dancing our hearts out to silly music. I just shared some of my to let one stash and now they are gobbling it down quicker than anything. Drat! These spawn are after me chocolate!!!)
(Omg they are closing in on me, like little Chickie dolls, demanding more Toblerone!!!!)
This song is a perfect example of how rapey and abusive men are!
Kids like candy. It has always been that way, Patriarchy or no patriarchy.
Maybe you can answer a question for me. What is it that feminists have against “The Male Gaze”? Like kids and candy, boys like looking at pretty girls. In a video, Christian Hoff Summers made mention of it but, left out details.
(Fuzzie it’s a big secret but women like to be admired! Yep)
Looking a women is rapey and oppressive and wrong! He just wants to victimize you! The correct response is “stop objectifying me, I am a human being!”
( these kids seriously finished the last half of my toblerone in 10 seconds! Worse,now they realize what the “good” chocolate is like!)
OH NOES!!! They’ll want MORE!!!
So, it’s evil for men to feel lust but, for women, it’s nature?
Fuzzie, a chording to my women’s prof teacher men feel lust but women are asexual,. I disagree, but I wanted to graduate so at the time I said, amen! Preach it sista!!!) 😉
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Now, why do I think that she believed every word she said?
She was CWWWWAAAAZZZY!
What’s that? You’re enrolling for Fembotulism 101 and you don’t have any mental issues?
Can we fix it? Yes we can!
(It’s okay, I know what you’re thinking, but Bob is actually a cross-dressing lesbian that merely passes as a shitlord)
(Wendy, the officious bint with the clipboard, is reassuringly non-cis-normative)
How very DARE you, you SHITLORD!
How dare you ask me, “Do I know any happy feminists?”?
I know an oxymoron when I see one.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
VICTIMHOOD IS JOY
REALITY IS A PATRIARCHAL CONSTRUCT
REASON IS OPPRESSION
FACTS ARE SUBJECTIVE
Tarn 2:05am: Wow that woman who sent that text is a shameless bottom-of-the-barrel b-tch. She should go to the Lost-and-found, maybe her Dignity is there.
“If your boyfriend (or one-night-stand) pulls out and c-ms on u, u have every right to inseminate yourself with it. Hey it’s your body. If u get pregnant this way, he has to Man Up and start writing checks”.
(I didn’t think this one up myself, I actually saw a discussion on it on a blog).
What do you mean, “Men are people too”?
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH…
Oops, Spawny beat me to it. DAMNIT SPAWNY GET! Foiled again…
[SG – Patriarchy has it’s privileges, as does living in Patriarchal Mean Time – hours in your future]
Any woman who shaves will fail this course. An extra twenty percent added to your grade fore a butch haircut.
The active voice should be outlawed.
“This class will be a refuge for women.. The rape epidemic happening on the campus outside is just devastating”
“Today we will watch clips from Oprah. Next week, from The View”
“Wars are good. They kill men. But Hillary is right. Women do suffer the most in war”
“This class is what Hillary meant when she said “It takes a village””
“In this class you will learn that “carpet bombing” can be a good thing”
“What is it that feminists have against “The Male Gaze”?”
As it was explained to me by a feminist commenter, the male gaze objectifies women in a way that the reverse cannot. In other words, when a man looks at a woman he immediately thinks of her as an item rather than a person…She’s no longer a fellow human being, but a selection of body parts presented (usually involuntarily and unbeknownst to her) for his approval or disappointment. The “male gaze” strips a woman of her humanity and makes her into a walking object of potential sex, pleasure, or gratification for his personal use.
Conversely, the “female gaze” is almost nonexistent because women aren’t taught to sexualize men’s bodies at all. In fact, studies show that a majority of women don’t find the naked male body erotic at all or only think very well sculpted male pecs/abs are sexy…or *maybe* a likewise heavily muscled male ass. And the male genitals? Forget about it. Most women believe that the penis and scrotum are;
C. Stupid looking
D. Threatening (Thankfully not many believe D, but enough that it’s a significant minority. Explains why that Sleepwalker statue caused such a ruckus, eh?) Because women don’t see men as anything other than A Man, his personhood remains intact even when he’s a Chippendale dancer. So saith the feminist professor.
For those that don’t know the statue I’m talking about:http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/02/06/statue-sleepwalking-man-triggers-controversy-wellesley-college/cTvPcGKDnExMs1bp0mnrzJ/story.html
Why major in Women’s Studies?
Because none of us are as dumb as all of us.
a fellow fan of the demotivational posters? I bought the calendar
Tarn would SEEM to have EVERYTHING she needs at this stage of her life.
In my viewpoint, she lacks only one thing: DEMONSTRATIVE LOVE.
True enough, she gets with her F.W.B. for “arraingements” (Assignations.) But
in what way is that LOVE? It’s like the film “Same Time, Next Year.” F.W.B.’s
go through the “motions of love.” They “make love.” Ridiculious. You can’t “make”
love. It’s there or it’s not.
There’s a simple test to see if it’s truly love: “If some irreversible imparement should
occur like, burning or breast removal, or an inability to “consumate” the “relationship,”
would this “love” wither on the vine?
Tarn’s two fathers’ (Who only wanted her for one purpose) WOULD put her out with the
trash. How would Tarn’s F.W.B. (Who lives apart from her, and suggests that she have
sex with other men) react?
Tarn gave the long answer, a short one is that most of the feminist bleedership are man hating lesbians. Another is that fembots know that the gaze of desirable men give them guilty tingles that are verboten by the bleedership, undesirable ones make them feel icky.
I should note a few things:
1. I don’t believe this. It’s just what was said to me. 😛
2. I think most guys are physically attractive, and that unless it is grotesquely obese or anorexic, the male body is just as arousing as the female body…If I’m 100% honest, I’d be inclined to say it’s slightly more. 👍
3. Healthy male genitals be sexy. Goes for cut and uncut, though here in the US it’s difficult to find uncut. 😦
4. The “Sleepwalker” statue isn’t triggering or scary or traumatizing. It evokes in me a need to help and rescue, not run away from. I just want to give “him” a blanket and mug of hot cocoa. ☕
5. I have too many emoticons at my disposal.
I am pretty sure I’ve mentioned this before, but my FwB and I are equal parts Friends and Benefits.
No, we don’t live together.
No, we won’t ever marry or have kids.
No, we don’t pay each others bills (well, I pay for our dinners out, but that’s not truly a “bill”).
But that doesn’t mean we aren’t demonstrative with our love or emotions.
We’ve seen each other cry over the loss of loved ones or during movies, and neither of us thinks the other is “weak”.
He has taught me that touch can be good and not humiliating, I have taught him that it’s okay to initiate sex and be desired.
I have accepted that he will always be more outgoing and emotional than myself, and he has accepted that I’m always going to be more reserved and introverted.
He prefers the limelight and attention, I am happiest in the background observing and making plans.
Perhaps we are more than FwB, but I don’t think our society has a term for “very close friends who are always there for each other, share numerous hobbies and interests, and also have sex but aren’t dating or committed”. 😉
Trust me, Lon. I’m exactly where I want to be, and have everything I could realistically want. 🙂
I’m starting to get carpal tunnel from liking so many posts.
And I look too agreeable.
Assume everything here is a ‘like’ to me.
“May I kiss you” classes should be mandatory for soldiers!
Oh, wait, that’s already being done. Good job then.
(as a side note there used to be money to be made providing soldiers with women to “kiss”…now there’s money to be made in doing the exact opposite…this pretty much goes against the grain of 10,000 years of war history)
“Men and women are exactly the same. It can work, it just hasn’t been tried right yet!”
“Welcome to Women’s Studies. Where being unhappy makes us happy”
“In Women’s Studies we use many prefixes. You will need to learn trans, hetero, homo, cis, boom, bah.”
Kissing training classes would be awesome! Then, the next step, …
Bob the builder the wood he does bring.
re: “men invented math and science to oppress women”
I have HEARD this on campuses plural.
“Happiness is a social construct. We will teach you how to be happy even when you are not.”
“men invented math and science to oppress women”
Oppressing women important it is.
Civilization unimportant it would be.
Tingles Uber Alles.
Being gay as discrimination against women (because prefer men) is the greatest new idea I’ve heard in a while.
“Kissing training classes would be awesome! Then, the next step, …”
Yeah, I see where you’re going with this…
but they won’t be having those classes for women though, Jf13.
(I do foresee ‘may I suck you’ courses in GI Joe’s future though, if not Jane’s. Someone on another forum put it this way:
“If you draw a straight line on a graph…
…the future money will be in instructing GI Joe on how to responsibly suck diick and hum nuts.
…with the line continuing on to tranny diick and nuts.
Of course this really isn’t a straight line… being that the first part is 10,000+ years of warfare followed by less than two decades of change… sort of a “hockey stick” of politically-correct fueled mandated perversion.”
(Insert everything is awesome music, as required…I think Gamer’s Italian quote was a good one)
re: “*maybe* a likewise heavily muscled male ass”
Really, bigger muscles being better there? I felt I suffered when younger from having rather large but well developed bottom parts, being a runner and bicyclist, but maybe it was simply my underdeveloped shoulders all along.
Students, by now I am sure you have heard of the school’s new “yes means yes” policy that I spearheaded. On the left are the stacks of consent forms, please take at least 100 each. On the right are the new CONSENT t-shirts I ordered for each of you. I expect you to wear them at all times. Students seen not wearing the t-shirt automatically fail the class. Isn’t this exciting???
“The primary purpose of this class is to teach you when you should demand trigger warnings.”
“Yes Means Yes is a good way to prevent sexual assaults of men on women.”
In the largest university in which YMY was made most mandatory the earliest, the number of *reports* of sexual assaults and other mandatorily Clery reportable crimes of is statistically unchanged. Moreover, the fact that most of the reliable reports (i.e. names given, evidence supports reports) are of male-on-male sexual crimes is also unchanged.
“Asking for consent is mandatory! You must ask every woman that you want to have sex with for her consent *before* you initiate anything sexual.”
“Asking for consent is forbidden! You cannot ask any woman that you want to have sex with for her consent, because you never know if she doesn’t want to be asked.”
The only legal option available to men is to have the set of “women that you want to have sex with” to be empty.
The only people hurt by yes means yes are rapists!
Venn diagrams math it would be.
Hard for women this is.
Note that LGBT Studies is subordinate to Women’s Studies, which has its own department and major. You can only minor in LBGT studies.
Say this stuff they would,
“Welcome to Women’s Studies. Where being unhappy makes us happy”
This sounds more realistic than it probably should. I learned things at age 23 in my Women’s Studies course that I’d never heard of, but the other women took for granted.
To always let a friend know who you’re dating/where you’ll be/when you’ll be back.
Never walking alone after dark, even in your own neighborhood.
Have 911 predialed/at the ready as your walking to your car at night (this was before most phones had that emergency setting).
Keep pepper spray in your purse at all times (lol, I don’t even own one!).
Hold your keys facing out in between your fingers so that when (not if) you have to punch an attacker it does more damage.
Assume the guy walking behind you on campus is a danger/walk in a different direction than he seems to be, even if it makes you late for class.
Never rely on a man to help you against another man.
If someone makes you uncomfortable, it is acceptable to alert authority figures.
I saved this one for last, because I had a real problem with it and I brought it up in class. (There’s a problem with just about all of them, of course, but I’d had experience with this particular situation.)
Anyway, I pointed out that sometimes guys can be big and awkward but harmless, or really bad at making eye contact during conversations due to shyness, or might seem “off” because of social anxiety, autism/aspergers, lack of confidence, etc. and that they might accidentally make others/women uncomfortable. I said that a little empathy goes a long way, and it really is not responsible to teach that someone should be “reported” because they are different. I got a few glares from some of the other students, and the professor said that I was falling prey to patriarchal expectations of women needing to place the welfare/emotions of others above her own at all costs.
Which is totally NOT what I was endorsing, but whatever… 😡
What made you decide to take Women’s Studies, Tarn?
As maybe first emphasized in its full glory on this site, the power of Spelling and Incantation has long been overlooked by patriarchal oppressors, such as Ed Driscoll and his puny complaints about patriarchally-spelled definitions.
It was a graduation requirement for the 2-year school I was attending. Either that, or Black Studies.
I actually ended up taking both, because I had a 50 minute time slot one semester that I had nothing to do. Figured I might as well get a few additional credits. I liked Black Studies better…we had a lot of really good, honest talks that probably weren’t 100% PC, but were very educational. That class was 4 of us whites, 2 mixed hispanics, and 21 blacks, including our professor. Her husband was white, and it never turned into a white-bashing course despite 1 guy’s constant attempts.
Compared to my Women’s Studies, with about the same class size but only 3 males? Good Gods…it was like Teh Penis Is Ebul 24/7.
men’s → persons’
p → v
sons’ → syn
Note the anticapitalist depossessive as well as the ambiguization of plurality in the last shift. Some individuals may believe they are groups, and vice versa, even legally as with corporations.
re: “I think most guys are physically attractive”
I have heard this from women more often than not, and partly motivated by good will here I’m willing to concede that most women might feel this way. In that case, women’s sexual responses are primarily determined by the guys’ behavior, which experimentally seems to be accurate.
But I think we all can agree, can’t we?, that most women do not behave in ways that would let most guys think women actually feel as if most guys are physically attractive. There’s probably a number of good-for-women (evopsych-wise) reasons for that, which are therefore bad-for-men because sexual conflict. I’m NOT picking on folks, just thinking out loud.
Suppose that Moe with his codpiece strolled in to class he did.
Reaction it would be?
Lubricated she is,
“Teh Penis Is Ebul 24/7.”
Yes Tarn, that’s right! Extra credit for that keen observation. Class, Tarn is an exceptional student.
Very bright. Listen and learn.
Ok for tonight’s assignment, I want everyone to make a list, 100 ways Teh penis is ebul.
To any (hetero) man, the honest answer to the question “What do you most like about me?” from his woman, if the question were miraculously assumed to be in good faith, would be “Because you’re a woman.” I think most women would not take that as a compliment, but I could be wrong.
But I’m not wrong to say that the men would take the corresponding answer “Because you’re a man.” as a definite compliment.
You are having way too much fun with this, Bloom. 😉
Jf13, I’m actually not sure that most women find most men physically attractive. Didn’t a dating site actually conduct a survey and determined that it was the opposite?
re: tribes with codpieces
I seem to recall that of the handful of remaining tribes in which it is considered immoral/declasse not to wear a codpiece, all but one insist on strapping it up/forward instead of down/backward.
“But I’m not wrong to say that the men would take the corresponding answer “Because you’re a man.” as a definite compliment.”
Depends on how highly the guy values his individuality. I recall a friend in high school who, being a romantic, told his girlfriend that he loved her smile…the way she laughed…how she always got pencil smudges on her fingers from her constant doodling…just all the little things he noticed that made her attractive to him. She kissed him when he was done and told him that she loved him for being a wonderful guy annnnnd that was it. Nothing else from her side.
He told me later that it made him feel kinda worthless. Like he could be replaced with any other “wonderful guy” and she’d be just as happy. It’s because of this conversation that I remember, years later, to always thank my FwB for things that make him, him.
re; “Didn’t a dating site actually conduct a survey and determined that it was the opposite?”
Yes. But I’m willing to concede otherwise anyway, a presumably temporary offer. I do think most women find only a small percentage of men “actually” physically attractive, the same sort of way that men find women actually attractive – drawing their gaze etc. Which means %80+ of men may just be “meh”, but “meh” may certainly be attractive enough for the purposes of sex.
I’ve offered other reasons (oxytocin, etc) for possibly making myself feel more unattractive than “really”, as well as (as I’ve realized) almost unfounded extrapolations and definitely suspect projections from male behaviors onto female behaviors.
Ok class from now on we are going to only use gender less pronouns because gender implies differences, aka women are inferior. From here on there will be no acknedgement of gender allowed. Thank you.
re: “Nothing else from her side. He told me later that it made him feel kinda worthless.”
I allow me to put on my hat designating me a Professor Of Gender Relations. The beta knew he was being extraordinarily pleasing to his woman, and so he got miffed when she counted it as merely ordinarily pleasing. Yes, the alpha-beta model is oversimplifying crudely, but it fits observed behavior anyway.
A very short digression down the beta path, very short I promise, will not push. One of the hallmarks of betaness is his desire/willingness to please without reciprocation. He really truly honest to goodness does not want much less expect her to magically produce a reciprocal banana from herself. He is gratified sufficently and necessarily by seeing her gratification. To the extent that he sees her reciprocation as her way of expressing her gratification, then it’s great, of course.
A question I would like answered by a woman with a beta is to what extent she sees her reciprocation as expressing her gratification, and/or to what extent she is aware that him being gratified independent of her gratification is or is not important to her, based on the relative frequencies of her own behavior.
Jf13 please report to the dean’s office. Your use of gender pronouns has harassed me. I am sexually harassed by the use of those words!
See class, jf13 is clearly a sexist, misogynist, rapey, abuser. Go ahead and throw stuff at jf13 on “it’s” way out… “It” will also be in the sw stocks just installed In the student commons, so you can go harass the harasser there later today.
Jf13, “I like you because you’re a man” is a compliment (at least, it has been…and is up until now, until the Womenz Studies professors change this patriarchial oppressive dynamic) because it implies something good.
Consider the statements: “Now, you’re a man!” “You’re a real man!” and so forth…that’s why “man up” is shaming language…it’s implied that the guy ISN’T being a man. Otherwise it wouldnt’ be shaming.
On the flip side, “I like you because you’re a woman” isnt’ really a compliment to a woman. There’s no shaming to the “woman up” language either…unless it’s intended to be ironic.
“You’re a lady” might work much better.
A rather uninformative debate at Donal’s concerns sexual conflict poorly defined. On one side, there are those who say there is conflict. On the other side, there are those who say there is no conflict …
Ok now back to today’s topic, how the Salem Witch Trials were grossly misunderstood and once again, the accusers were not believed bc of patriarchy and it’s lies…
From male point of view:
“Most of the women in this room are attractive”=> “I would have sex with most women in this room.”
From female point of view:
“Most of the men in this room are attractive” => “The ambiance is good here”
“You’re a lady”, unironically.
re: “it implies something good”
Yes, specifically implying her wanting him to know about her perception of him, making it that much more likely that “something” good will be happening.
Women’s Studies Prof calls from her car “Excuse me, I’m looking for a public toilet on the good side of town. Can you tell me where the nobs hang out?”
Big thread this is.
More fun than usual it would be.
Only a picture of Andrea Dworkin spoil it could.
“A question I would like answered by a woman with a beta is to what extent she sees her reciprocation as expressing her gratification, and/or to what extent she is aware that him being gratified independent of her gratification is or is not important to her, based on the relative frequencies of her own behavior.”
I just practice “Do unto others/Harm none”. I like seeing people happy. I’ll try to help/relieve stress from just about anyone I meet. However, I am even more caring about the happiness levels of my friends and certain family members. For those people, I will go above and beyond to make them smile/be unstressed. It doesn’t matter to me if someone is an alpha, beta, or omega…
Sorry if this isn’t a very specific answer.
No shit that’s my cue
Things a woman studies prof might say;
Tarn’s feminist commenter is in fact correct; women are items. Get over it.
Donael is squishy; more concerned about not offending the ladies etc then kicking ideas around seeking truth, even when he agrees with said truth.being non offense counts for more. Even when said offensive words have been said by his Popes of the past.
re: “Sorry if this isn’t a very specific answer.”
Ok now here is a perfect example, see how “some” people in class are now howling and gouging put their eyes? That’s because they are misogynistic, fat hating, rapist, abusers. Look at this photo again, see the beauty in it? See it???!!!??? You MUST see it!
Today class we will be participating in a slut walk I have organized. We are going to reclaim the word slut! Being a slut is good and empowering, unless you have a penis, then it’s wrong.
Yoda: “Suppose that Moe with his codpiece strolled in to class he did.
Reaction it would be?”
I’d say pretty much like dropping Andrea on this post, a pie onto concrete like.
Hey Choicy, we catch up at last! Are you in Bali? I’ll see you in the mail, mate. Have a look at your mail.
Everyone is an item…to the right person. 😉
I was in the mall yesterday getting new sneakers and a late 20s/early 30s guy in a tight shirt and *ahem* well-packaged yoga pants walked by.
Had to get a cold drink to cool down, I did. Why can’t more guys dress that way? 😛
re: “Why can’t more guys dress that way?”
I’m easily the worst possible person in the manosphere to ask since I don’t even wear short sleeve shirts (in public). Gratuituous exposure, especially of actual skin but including bodily form e.g. in tights, is completely frowned upon in my beliefs/upbringing/etc. Because of the mental blinders and recoil, it’s only fairly recently that I’ve correctly surmised that this also helps to keep the ladies’ minds on their own business.
See class, it’s ok for Tarn to say this about the tight clothing bc vagina. If Tarn had a penis, such comments would be creepy inappropriate eye rape.
I’ll sum it up like this:
Penis = can’t do anything right
Vagina = can’t do anything wrong.
See how easy this is? Isn’t feminism great?
Isn’t feminism great?
Great perhaps not.
Simple it would be.
Bloom’s comments have enlightened me as to what goes on in a Womens Bigotry class. I already knew the substance of it, but the details are hilarious.
Yoga pants? Because most dudes don’t suck dick
Things Women’s Studies Professors Do Say.
1. Standardized testing is ebul.
I held off as long as I could. When Bloom started saying all those nice things about Andrea, it was too much.
I had to watch the whole thing!
Because most dudes don’t suck dick
Good this would be.
Bloom: “Ok class from now on we are going to only use gender less pronouns because gender implies differences, aka women are inferior. From here on there will be no acknedgement of gender allowed.”
I’ve never attended a women’s studies class (I doubt we even have them over here), but I did notice how pple don’t much use mankind or Man anymore to refer to pple in general, the PC term is humanity. U’re apparently not supposed to say ‘flight stewardess’ anymore, the ‘correct’ term is flight attendant.
It’s not a huge issue, but I just think it’s such a lame thing to be complaining about lol. (“Mankind? But what about women? What about meee”?)
That’s fairly mild. It does get worse. Whenever men do anything noble ora are made to suffer, they are referred to by their occupation. Firefighters save little old ladies from burning buildings and miners are killed in cave ins.
You are having too much fun with this.
Lol JF13 that article is one of the funniest things I read in a long time. I just glanced over it because she is super long-winded, but she basically seems to be think standardised testing is some egregious violation of human rights.
Actually the past 2 days I was reading a lot about Nazi concentration camps, and some of the very cruelest guards who were female. So contrasting those very horrific things and the stuff she’s complaining about is giving me a weird mix of amusement and anger. Ugh.
What about meee”?
The true issue it so.
“The true issue it so.”
The true issue it is it should read
Yoda not perfect he is.
But close he would be.
@Fuzzie Wuzzie: Yeah I’ve noticed the press tends to treat men’s lives as more expendable. Another eg is in tragedies, the report goes “70 people died/were killed, including 20 women and children”. I understand why one might single out children’s deaths as being more tragic, but there’s no reason to distinguish the women’s deaths from the men’s.
Alana “I’ve never attended a women’s studies class (I doubt we even have them over here)”
I doubt that the late great Lee would have approved of them.
I remember a MSM report on a sunk ferry: “The loss of life comes to at least 52. Sadly 2 women and 4 children are included among the fatalities.”
Men expendable they are.
2. “Feminist, women’s, and gender studies grew partly from Simone de Beauvoir’s observation that “one is not born, but rather becomes, a woman.””
says Finn Enke, born the woman formerly known as Anne Enke, unironically.
“I doubt that the late great Lee would have approved of them.”
Lol indeed. Gosh most of the country was really quite sad about his passing, although he lived to a good age. The queues to pay final respects was often about 8 hours long. And Singapore’s weather is not the nicest to queue in…
“There should be more men in tights.”
Me mates, I’m basting bollocks* on a sun baked beach, chugging Mai Tais whist listening in at your convo. How goes it with you all?
*I’m not literally sunning me pills, I’m wearing me budgie smugglers.
Hi Fuzzie mate!
Farm Boy, still tilling the soil, or livestock?
“Singapore’s weather is not the nicest to queue in”
Singapore’s weather is bloody awful to queue in, Summer or Winter.
(Re: genderless pronouns, it goes even further, I will have to find the link again but I saw a story a few months ago where a teacher was suing the college for using the prefix Ms or Mrs in front of her name. Even the use of he, she, man, woman, etc. was under attack. Nutty!)
re: genderless pronouns
Hey jf13 “I seem to recall that of the handful of remaining tribes in which it is considered immoral/declasse not to wear a codpiece, all but one insist on strapping it up/forward instead of down/backward.”
Hey what’s this “down/backward” shite? Them keeping in touch with their feminine side?
I know you all heard is this but I’ll say it anyway:
There once was a man from Kent
Whose dick was all battered and bent
To save himself trouble he bent it double
And instead of coming he went
Yeah yeah I know, you all heard it already, don’t rub it in. Makes me wonder what sort of company I’m keeping.
Apologies to Spawny Get in advance for linking to A Voice for Men. But this qualifies as news.
If I read this right, Alison Tieman, Typhonblue, banned from a comic convention? She is the most inoffensive person I have ever seen on youtube. I the think the Honetbadgerws had a booth.
@ Cill and these things they were saying in my Women’s Studies class, that was 20+ years ago! Who knows what they say now I am sure my version is Women’s Studies “light” by comparison.
You can bet your bottom dollar, Bloom 😉
Ummm, what exactly is a codpiece? I was going to Google it but then thought maybe best not to….
I have it on reliable-ish non-authority that nontribal women, such as ours, expect that if they do see something it will be down/backward i.e. e.g. down the leg.
Class, I cannot believe I forgot to mention this one, but under NO circumstances should you make sandwiches, food, pick up after, clean up after, do laundry of, or complete any task that was once considered “women’s work.” Women have done these things for thousands of years, it’s time for men to step up! Hint: call it “choreplay” and act like MAYBE he’ll get sex, I mean rape.
(Randomly found while trying to find the gender language lawsuit. The cost of promoting patriarchy? http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/pastor-accused-of-using-nanny-as-sex-object-2/)
Damn Fuzzie, Allison’s a good egg.
(Link where you want, brother)
Hey! I was born in Kent. I’m a Kentish Man. As opposed to a Man of Kent. It’s a Medway thing.
“I’ve never attended a women’s studies class (I doubt we even have them over here)”
I doubt that the late great Lee would have approved of them.
Probably for Robert E Lee true also it was.
Bloom muses, “Ummm, what exactly is a codpiece?”
la la la la
If you watch the link at 10:23 you’ll see a codpiece modelled.
Did Choicy peruse my proposed literary perambulations?
“We have scheduled Smol Namba Pride Walks for mothers’ enjoyments.”
“In northern islands, long mats wrapped around the waist are worn instead.”
Instead? Let me tell you, our mats HAVE to be that big.
“Ok class from now on we are going to only use gender less pronouns because gender implies differences, aka women are inferior. From here on there will be no acknedgement of gender allowed. Thank you.”
Bloom please pass this onto the Womenz Prof from me :
You can take your “Thank you” and turn it into a diamond.
Take this you daft old moo. I give you Patriarchy a genderless noun
So where does that leave your Womenz Studies now? Eh?
Translation of Aussie “turn it into a diamond”
He means her butt is so tight it could turn a lump of coal into a diamond.
As you can tell, most of us down South were smart enough to.oppose national suicide…. I mean universal suffrage
I actually oppose universal suffrage as well…just not based on sex, ethnicity, religion, skin color, etc.
The problem is, we have too many Stupids who don’t even know what a platform is or how to spell our political candidates names, much less have an intelligent conversation about what they stand for.
I firmly believe we need to give an on-the-spot political policies test to all voters. (I realize this will likely never happen, but one can dream…)
“Did Choicy peruse my proposed literary perambulations?”
Spawny how are you mate? Shit you’re my only mate here to acknowledge my greetings! I was almost wondering if I’d farted in a lift, and here I am out in the wide open air on a beach!
Yeah I looked at them Spawny my cobber my mate. Very impressive. I would turn them into a masterpiece of a post, except mate I’m here with one hand cupped around a good chunk of beep and the other around a glass of Mai Tai. I might head back to the hotel later and have a shot to clear my head and spread your literary perambulations out on the bed and give them what ho!
Good to talk to you mate. Put it there, my old son, put it there.
Consider it put there, mate.
Expect you can break down who votes to limit govt on all those things.
Bottoms up as Cillo would say! Up guards and adam! Westward Ho! Chuggalug!
Fosters will be my next order I think. It’s hot enough.
Translation of Aussie: “beep” = boob, breast (not in polite use)
Comments closed, seems they weren’t toeing the correct line.
Choicy mate, you are going to behave if Bloom produces more examples of the Womenz Prof? You’re not going to get too peesed orf?
Bloom the last 4 lines of Choicy at 11:02 pm were directed at your fictitious Prof, definitely not at you. 😉
(@ Choicy I will pass it along but I don’t think the prof. is going to like it! But luckily I graduated long ago so hey, nothing to lose! Maybe I should take the class again, in fact, just to play devil’s advocate at every turn!)
(@ Cill, look at you trolling for likes…you KNEW I’d like it …la la la la 😉 )
Ton, I see you’ll be repeating this class again, for the 10th time…you don’t even WANT to graduate anymore, do you? Oppose universal suffrage, we’ll see about THAT!
Sitting up straight with feet together and both hands on desk, Cillo. Lay the old Prof* on me, Bloom, I’m mellowed out to dry.
(*the old bag slapper hoe dear)
“@ Cill, look at you trolling for likes”
Well, my desensitization program is far from complete, Bloom.
Beeb admits biased audience (even more than normal)
Then Beeb backs down
Hey Tarnished that’s a good looking brumby you gort there! Not to be ridden because of spike, best let it loose to patrol my stock, keep the male roos clear. Everything would steer clear of the spike, Big Red Male Roos included.
‘Gort’ what fresh fiendish tricksy lingo is this? Or a typo?
Prof Bloom taking charge she is
“Victory for Ukip: BBC backs down and gives Farage his own TV show after debate fix row”
Sheesh. I didn’t expect to see that happening in my lifetime. Farage will maximize it but how useful is it, too little too late?
Spawny, I’m heading for the hotel now mate. I’ll give the old post the what ho but most likely I’ll be flake-o before you can say jack.
Have you been sitting at your computer for the past 36 hours continuously at this post?
How much chocolate does this tenacity require?
Farm Boy, still tilling the soil, or livestock?
I live in the city, but I go to my farm on weekends. Thanks for asking.
More Honey Badger news.
Choicy’s new post is at large. Check it out.
Posideon believe it or not I have had a completely productive two day spree in spite of commenting! I type really fast (with lots of errors…)
Upthread, Spawny linked to youtuber Vee who promised an interview with Karen Straughan. I am thirty miniutes into it with an hour to go. While I don’t know the first thing about Candadian law, Karen thinks the Honey Badgers have serious grounds.
Class (and by now I am pretty sure only females are listening) don’t try to look attractive, if he doesn’t love you as you are, he’s a rapey oppressor abuser. In fact, do your best NOT to be attractive, bc that’s how you screen out the riff raff (and they all are riff raff)
She was a STINKER!!! “Look your worst, so he’ll love you as you really are???!!!!”
“But of course this doesn’t apply with the genders reversed. If a man doesn’t bother trying to look attractive, that shows he thinks he’s automatically entitled to sex from women. That rapist”.
Hey this job seems kinda fun…U’re basically allowed to talk nonsense and get paid for it.
re: “If a man doesn’t bother trying to look attractive, that shows he thinks he’s automatically entitled to sex from women.”
Another fun post topic would be comparating IOIs between the genders.
Alana, you’re hired! Welcome to the man hating, I mean women’s studies dept! As a bonus we were able to fire two math professors (both men, of course, sadistic math loving rapist abusers) to hire you and give all the other professors in the women’s studies dept raises. Nobody takes math anymore anyway.
That’s an excellent idea for a post. We could talk about indicators of interest, what they are, differences in how the sexes flirt with each other, and theories on how people are supposed to learn these things.
Also how to avoid using body language that cause unintentional/nonexistent IOI. (I’ll admit to needing help with this personally. 😛 )
I was once a “client” of a rehabilitation program for people with physical and mental
handicaps. To say that the atmosphere was bleak would be an understatement.
I was assigned to this young woman rehab worker that I was quite impressed with.
Before we proceed firther, I should describe this woman. She had the perfect model’s
shape, and the blue jeans she wore seemed like they were sewn on her body.
So tight was her clothing, that you could envision her nude. Every curve was
When I first sat across from her, during our introductory interview, I imagined her
perfect lips around… I couldn’t help it. I even said, “I’m getting stimulated.”
She heaved a sign of disapointment as though it happened all too often.
She seemed completely oblivious to her visible effect. She would hunch over tables
and her derrier would stick out. There was a Frenchman dying from terminal cancer
and he would look at her arse with such depression on his face.
I just couldn’t control my reaction to this girl. Why did she dress like that? Did she feel
she could safely get away with that in that enviornment? It was comprised of
physically AND emotional cripples.
Are some women consciously trying to get a raise out of the men? Or, do they
deny to themselves the affect they have on men?
I was given over to someone else’s charge. This one wasn’t nearly as bad, but by
that time, I was so frustrated, I decided I would confront the REAL WORLD inspite
of my “handicaps.”
I went to the Department Of Labour. One of the female employees there didn’t
wear underware, She flashed me once. I can sniff the food but never eat it.
Wow…I’m sorry you and other guys went through that, Lon/Missattempts. That is not what I’d consider proper workplace attire, especially for that line of work. Did the company not have a dress code for all the employees? If the men and women are all wearing the same/similar clothing, it makes the company look more professional and can definitely lessen the impact of one’s natural endowments. It can’t fully eliminate it, but I’m sure it would have helped in the situation you describe.
I think that there’s a terrible lack of empathy in most women. She probably wanted to look good for herself (for any doctors and any female competition), that anyone else (especially men) might be adversely affected? not her problem, if it even occurred to her that someone might be
If she sighed like being told her manner of dress is too accentuating happens a lot, you’d think she’d take the hint.
I know that I have a well endowed body. But I also know that putting oneself on display is uncouth and can even be cruel in certain cases. Hence, the only times I’ll dress down to that extent are when I’m at home or at the beach. Still get disrespectful comments at times regardless of what I wear…but that’s not a “male” problem, that’s an “asshole” problem.
It’s a good point.
I recall a party in England where a woman said she’d spent 20,000+ pounds on plastic surgery. Men were ogling her, and it clearly appealed to her vanity. Needless to say there were other women present (aren’t there always?) who berated her for pandering to the sexism of men. She placated them by saying she did it to taunt men. The mentality behind her comment was so self-contradictory, I didn’t pay it much heed at the time and walked off to join another discussion.
There are women who will go to any lengths to make their appearance the most tormenting possible experience for some men. It’s difficult for me to comprehend such a mentality, but it does exist I’m afraid.
I’ve known a few who do it because that’s what their boyfriends or husbands want. Those types of men want to “flaunt” their ability to get the best arm-candy, and will even pay through the nose for their spouses cosmetic “upgrades”.
But yeah…even more women do it for vanity, attention, or just because they can.
Tarn, they would do that? God some men are idiots.
When my parents shifted house I helped the carrier man lift things. He wasn’t a bad bloke, but it was obvious my mother and sisters disturbed him a lot. He couldn’t take his eyes off them even though they don’t dress provocatively. He couldn’t speak to them either. Instead of getting pissed off about it, I thought of your blog and Lon’s past comments and I asked him about it as we worked. He opened up after a bit and said, “Honestly mate, it drives me round the twist. The more beautiful they are the worse it is. I’ll never get to speak to them properly, it’s so bad.”
I suggested he take a trip to Indonesia or Manilla, and he said he’ll think about it but I could tell he won’t do it (you and I both know how I could tell 😉 ). I don’t know why he won’t do it. I reckon it would help him if he did. Maybe he thinks he’s too far gone to trust himself with a good looking woman?
One of the few purposes women have is to look good as army candy. Damn straight that plays a major roll in target selection
I think that was a brilliant idea, Cill. Too bad you’re likely correct in that he won’t do it.
I blame the fact that beautiful (or even just pretty) women are so unjustly pedestalized in most societies. While guys like this would still probably be shy towards us, the rampant gynocentrism creates a false sense of female superiority…Then we not only have gents like this who can’t even talk to an attractive but fully clothed woman, but on the other extreme we have guys who literally go crazy thinking that an attractive woman is an indicator of masculine worth/validation like Rodgers. It’s a truly terrible thing, for everyone involved. 😦
The “20,000+ pounds on plastic surgery” woman also said she didn’t let any man get anywhere with her, and the places she liked best were places where you find the most men. She wanted to maximize her derision and humiliation of men. She admitted that 20000+ was all her savings, the daft bint. Apart from me, the people around her reacted as if her attitude was normal and understandable.
As for the men who spend tens of thousands on the arm-candy, I wouldn’t want to spend on something as effete as the biggest bouquet at a funeral. I’d rather save it for a new bike.
re: Deparment of Victims’ Studies
Unlike activities in science or art classes, overt creativity in creating victims still isn’t rewarded as such. But clearly the mere fact that “Women’s Studies” already evolved in a generation into “Gender and/or Nongender Disparity Studies” means that the success of the Women’s Studies programs wasn’t intended to be measured by the advancement of women (e.g. advancing from 57% of college graduates to 69%).
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