Hush now, the politicians decide the acceptable debates

Camermong, Millimong and al ja-beeb-a all conspire to shut down debate on quitting the EU

This is without doubt the no-choice, phoney election. Take the EU. Opinion polls say that the majority of Britons would vote to leave if given the chance. That is why David Cameron and Ed Miliband are actually working to shut down debate on both the UK’s relationship with the EU and its closely-related bedfellow, immigration.

David Cameron is as much in his own way a Brussels enthusiast as Kenneth Clarke, Ted Heath or Michael Heseltine. He certainly fits into the same tradition of Conservatism. His declared ambition is that the EU’s domain eventually stretches from the Atlantic to the Urals. At every opportunity he and George Osborne say that they want the UK to stay inside what has now become arguably a bigger socialist/statist experiment than the USSR ever was.

For his part, Ed Miliband makes no bones that he wants to cosy up to the Eurocrats and the federalists in the same way that Tony Blair did. Without doubt, five years of a Labour-SNP government would enmesh us even deeper in the Brussels mire.

In this space it is impossible to unpick the full range of Corporation bias as the election approaches. Suffice it to say that they are enthusiastic partners in the Camerband dance. A primary feature of coverage is that there has been massive bias by omission – an editorial avoidance of discussing the issue of withdrawal itself.

Another aspect of the endemic bias is that editors bust a gut to find and explore the views of those who oppose withdrawal – and virtually ignore those who favour it. Tony Blair’s intervention in the election is a classic case in point. Blair’s pronouncements on the economic disaster that would ensue if the UK left the EU were given maximum exposure and weight – and those who genuinely disagreed did not get a look in, as analysis of the flagship coverage on BBC1 News at 10 shows.

BBC impartiality review was compromised by personal connections and riddled with basic errors

So the election strategy chosen by the LibLabCon party?

Both MIliband and Cameron clearly know that their approaches to the EU are hated by a significant part of their core vote. But their calculated, cynical gamble is to focus their electoral fire elsewhere. Their hope is that the country’s deep and visceral distrust of the EU won’t really count when the ballot boxes are opened. And afterwards, whoever is elected will carry on regardless in their pro-EU trajectory.

BUT, they’re starting to sweat as we approach the election day because the polls are not moving. The UKIP vote is not ‘coming home’ despite such pleas as Dear Ukippers, quit while you’re ahead in The Times. There’s a pay wall but you can see the start Only fruitcakes or loonies would let Ed Balls and Alex Salmond into power. The time for protest is over — for now. So the journalist Capt NumbNutz uses the phrase ‘fruitcakes or loonies’ which only serves to remind ‘kippers of Cameron’s old insult to them. Well done, mate. Well done. That should get ‘er done.

The political class has never been so remote and so despised. But they earned it. They have resolutely ignored every warning to clean up their act.

Bask in my BTMSGL

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party is on TV at lunchtime, I’ll see if I can get a clip to share.

In the meantime. Here are the Mong Brothers, Dave and Ed. Who wouldn’t want to vote for them?

Posted in Politics, UKIP
25 comments on “Hush now, the politicians decide the acceptable debates
  1. Cill says:

    Hang on, hang on. You once accused those two pointy-lugged Munsters ^^^ of being myself and my brother and now you say they are the Mong brothers. What’s going on?


  2. Cill says:

    “Bask in my BTMSGL”
    That’s you holding the “I’m Voting UKIP” sign, I take it. I admit to feeling of sinking disappointment.


  3. Spawny Get says:

    They’re no Munsters! They’re OddBod and OddBod Jr

    Check out the post again, I’ve improverated it


  4. Spawny Get says:

    “That’s you holding the “I’m Voting UKIP” sign, I take it.”

    No, just teasing. That’s my younger, better looking brother


  5. Cill says:

    That hapless pig is stuck in a lose – lose situation, a kind of Heads you win Tails I lose predicament.


  6. Spawny Get says:

    The pig isn’t talking about himself…Shirley, that’s obvious?


  7. Spawny Get says:

    From Guido Fawkes’ blog

    Kelvin MacKenzie reports on an unnamed senior Mirror executive’s reaction to his paper’s “My Pledge” Miliband front page:

    “It’s f***ing terrifying to think that c*** might be running the country in three weeks’ time.”


  8. Cill says:

    “The pig isn’t talking about himself…Shirley, that’s obvious?”
    Yup. Lose – Lose.


  9. Cill says:

    “there is a wealth of well-documented material which – unlike Open Europe – suggests that leaving the EU would boost the British economy. This document, by economist Ian Milne for the Bruges Group, shows that 90 per cent (by value) of UK trade is not with the EU – 10 per cent is, but 80 per cent occurs within Britain and 10 per cent with the rest of the world. And this paper, by Michael Burrage, for Civitas, concludes that the trade advantages of being in the EU are virtually non-existent because the volume of trade with EU countries is exactly the same now as it was in 1973 when the UK joined.” (

    Pre 1973, when the UK joined the EU, England imported cheap-priced high quality primary produce from New Zealand. Post 1973 the same cheap-priced high quality primary produce was almost priced out of the market by tarrifs and restricts imposed to protect the inefficient primary producers of Europe.


  10. Spawny Get says:

    They didn’t let me vote then. And the vote they had described the EU as merely a free trade area.


  11. Spawny Get says:

    One of the biggest tricks is to say blah% of our trade is with Europe. They count stuff sent via Rotterdam for re-shipping as trade with Europe even when the ship goes elsewhere. It’s all lies. It’s lies all the way down.


  12. Yoda says:

    Sit on the pig she will?

    Liked by 1 person

  13. Spawny Get says:

    Nice one, Yoda.


  14. jf13 says:

    Controlling the frame only gets you so far.


  15. Spawny Get says:

    JF, if that’s about the lies, it is still working with many.


  16. jf13 says:

    re: “if that’s about the lies”

    It’s about playing field design. “Let’s restrict the discussion to EU-friendly policies. And now we’ll open the discussion on EU policies.”


  17. missattempts says:

    I don’t know how knowledgeable anyone here is about American politics, but
    the media is set to place Hilary Clinton into the Presidency.
    She is, quite simpily, a criminal POS. But the media comes from the pit of hell.
    It is Satan’s mouthpiece. People are sheep. So she is a shoe in.
    I do not want dreary, non stop criminality for the next 8 years. I want the best possible
    person for the job. I want TARNISHED. She is my President.

    Liked by 1 person

  18. Spawny Get says:

    Lon, that’s not the worst idea I’ve seen, not by a long chalk.

    Liked by 1 person

  19. Cill says:

    Tarn for President? Nah, she’d be too honest for politics.

    Liked by 1 person

  20. Cill says:

    Well it’s 6:45 a.m. and I haven’t been to sleep yet. I’m going to try to get in a couple of hours (wishful thinking probably) then I’ll try to contact Choicy. Over and Out

    Liked by 1 person

  21. jf13 says:

    re: sex, lies, manipulation, games, fun, politics as usual

    Noncooperative game theory’s big developments (and funding) came about as a result of the Cold War. Anyone remember Mutual Assured Destruction? Anyone remember precisely how we (US, and y’all, besides Them) won the Cold War?

    We promoted the idea of *inevitable* overwhelming “strategic” strikes whenever we felt there was the slightest justification. The buttons were pre-pushed, supposedly. We showed Them all the evidence that we were MAD to the bone.

    And we also promoted the idea, in flagrant contradiction, of a practically unlimited number of limited “tactical” strikes. And thus we showed Them just how coldly calculatingly rational we were.

    And we also gaslighted the Soviets, telling them, as they came to believe, that they had no strategy except tit for tat. Meanwhile our strategy was to use all strategies, simultaneously titting and tatting all along.

    Meanwhile, how big of a business is it nowadays to simulate a populace’s responses, and to influence that response?


  22. Spawny Get says:

    The refusal of countries to join in on attacking Syria et al was a promising sign, I think.


  23. jf13 says:

    Our bread is far worse than back in Roman times, and in place of circuses wherein men’s brains get splattered around the arena and on the audience we have reality shows in which stealing candy bars from teammates while pretending to starve on a undeserted island is considered rough play.


  24. Spawny Get says:

    UK political leaders debate just ended


    the Welsh bird and then the Scottish one, then Nuttilie the Green mong so kindly lent to us by the Aussies.


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