Ah Yeah Gidday

Other posts had too many comments. Um… I got not much else to say, really, apart from gidday.


Gidday starts at first comment

“Moe comes out for Bloom” starts here

“Ask Moe a Question” starts here

“Cop shot Walter Scott starts here


I dwell near Moehau Mountain in the rugged Coromandel area. I am refined and artistic and bang bones together for rhythm. I belong to a rock group called The Banging Boners (all drummers). We are looking for a vocalist, preferably a female Moehau Man. Tune and lyrics all one note, all one word in rhythm with the Boners.

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  1. Farm Boy says:

    a female Moehau Man.

    You are being sexist again.

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  2. Moehau Man says:



  3. Moehau Man says:

    ‘Ere y’ going, all right?


  4. Cill says:

    It will be a challenge to remain on topic here…


  5. M says:

    Well Hello, you big handsome fellow !

    A little bird tells me you are lonely over here all on your ownsome. Can I sit with you for a while? I’ll be nice and quiet, I promise. 🙂

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  6. Liz says:

    Gidday, Moe!
    How’s everything over there in your area of the big planet?


  7. Moehau Man says:

    Well Liz, while Mrs Moehau Man (my domesticated old mum) cleaned cave at sparrow fart this morning, I climbed to the top of Mount Moehau and looked out over my demesne. All was well in the rugged Coromandel. The air is clean here, y’know.

    They say Auckland is a clean city by international standards, but whenever I go there I smell the stink of car exhaust from miles out, and the tap water stinks of chlorine.

    Back here, at my place, we drink water from rain that fell on the mountains 100 years ago and is slowly filtered through the subterranean shingle. It’s the highest quality undistilled water in the world, they say. Dunno if they export it, but if you ever get a chance to buy water from a wee place called Putaruru, that’s it.

    And “how are you” back at you, Liz?

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  8. Yoda says:

    A thick neck Moe does have.
    A thin neck Bloom does have.
    Opposites attract they do?

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  9. Cill says:

    Moe has just beaten his old record for comments on his posts! His previous record was 7 comments (none of which were on topic). That was way back in October last year. This is his first post since then.

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  10. M says:

    “Opposites attract they do?”

    Opposites do attract and I got here first! This big hunk is all mine!
    Sorry Bloom 😉

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  11. M says:

    If I had my way I’d hunker him down in his cave and sooth him to sleepiness with sweet clan lullabies. Ah me, a girl can but dream.

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  12. Liz says:

    M is such a cutie. 🙂

    “And “how are you” back at you, Liz?”

    Well…nothing so exciting as the sound of things over in your side of the pond! 🙂
    We went to a restaurant on the boat, saw some tarpon.

    There’s some ship that has been docked in the bay for about a year and a half. It hasn’t moved at all and I’m not sure what their deal is. The lights are on every night so it isn’t abandoned. We’re assuming they’re fugitives, but not terribly concerned since they seem to keep to themselves….

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  13. Cill says:

    They might be illegal aliens who can’t go ashore but they’re ok as long as they stay aboard ship. They probably lack the fuel to cruise home anyway. Like it or not, they have made themselves your government’s problem. It has happened elsewhere too.


  14. Liz says:

    I hadn’t even thought of that, Cill!
    I’ll bet you’re right.


  15. Cill says:

    Liz I just read your comment re “wife wouldn’t let me”. Ain’t no way that’s gonna happen to me! 😉


  16. Cill says:

    And these men were masculine you say?


  17. M says:

    Thank you Liz! It’s possible, the two wives have seen you somewhere and the mere thought of their husbands out on a boat with that babe? No siree! 😉 lol


  18. Cill says:

    If they saw her other avatar, that would do it.

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  19. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    More boom for Bloom.

    And yes, It will be exceedingly hard to keep this thread on topic.

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  20. Cill says:

    Well to compensate for Moe’s paucity of post content I’ll tell an anecdote. It’s a true story about one of my long-lost Australian relatives, which I saw on Ripley’s Believe It Or Not.

    Back in the days when Australia was a penal colony for the Poms, my relative was in charge of the construction of a new prison. On the day it was completed he went out on the town to celebrate. He created such drunken mayhem that he became the prison’s first inmate! 😮

    P.S. did you know a Pom is really an Aussie? It stands for Prisoner Of Mother England.

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  21. Yoda says:

    And yes, It will be exceedingly hard to keep this thread on topic.

    Which topic would that be?


  22. Moehau Man says:

    Well it’s sort of about saying gidday to each other and being friendly or hostile as the mood takes us. Mrs Moehau Man (my affable old mum) says gidday.

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  23. M says:

    Gidday 😛


  24. Padawan says:

    GIDDAY (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)


  25. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, raff off.

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  26. Yoda says:

    Gidday say I do


  27. FuzzieWuzzie says:



  28. Gidday!

    Now M I am a might confused, wasn’t it Cill you fancy? Double timing with Mo? You know Cill might cat h wind of all this (or Padawan may write a poem!)

    Boom boom boom boom….great tune, Fuzzie!

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  29. Gidday
    (By Bloom, who should have stopped typing hours ago)

    Am I getting this right?
    There it is day
    And here it is night
    Tomorrow it might
    Be in New Zealand tonight
    So should I say gidday
    Or gnite?
    Either way if I might
    Say somehow we seem to get it right!
    Mo don’t let you mum catch sight
    Of that boom boom poetery flight!

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  30. M says:

    O yes I double play them, Bloom lol!
    My Moe has a hairless chest smooth as steel (apart from the scars)
    I wanna hug Moe then Cill then Moe then Cill – what a terrible two-timer I am! lol

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  31. Sumo says:

    Why the hell is everyone so giddy?

    Liked by 2 people

  32. M says:

    Oops! I have let the cat out of the bag. Was I allowed to do that?

    Liked by 2 people

  33. Yes M, go ahead, tell us everything…..

    (Pulls up a chair and rests chin in hands at full attention, wide eyes urging you to go on….)

    I have chocolate….

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  34. Cill says:

    Sumo, you haven’t had your customary shot yet bro. Once you’ve had a pick-me-up things will settle down, or appear to at least. I might join you in a shot. Same as last night for me. Chivas Royal Salute. Cheers! Salute!

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  35. Cill says:

    Now Bloom. You had retired for the night. You’re supposed to be asleep.
    You’re feeling sleepy, your eyelids weigh half a ton
    Your head is heavy, lay it to rest now


  36. It’s ok M, these guys don’t read a thing we post anyway, honest…..

    Go on… You were spilling…er… I mean saying…


  37. Sumo says:

    No no no, I’m about 8 shots and 2 beers in. It’s just that no one picked up on my intentional misreading of “gidday” as “giddy”. Because it’s funny to insult foreigners. 😀

    And yes, I realize that we’re all “foreigners” to each other.

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  38. M says:

    You do know Cill and Moe are… like… how can I say this..
    Aw gee I don’t know what to say.

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  39. It’s only 9 pm here Cill, no hurry…I just had to drop my kiddos off, back home and getting read for bed.

    But first, a story. Go on M, tell us more about Moe…and Cill…and Mo…and you…


  40. M says:

    Peas in a pod?


  41. Sumo says:

    Evil twins? Except I’m not entirely certain which one is the “evil” one.

    It would be so much easier if we were talking about me. Because the answer would be….both.


  42. You know, anything, funny stories, darkest secrets, first memory, worst day ever, best day ever… Just start anywhere… We’ll follow along! 🙂


  43. M says:

    Yes! Both! I like them both! I more than “like” them actually.

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  44. Yes Sumo, that’s right…go on… You can tell stories too…

    (Blink blink, big wide eyed blank expectant stare)

    Uh huh…go on… You were saying, about you being evil…


  45. Sumo says:

    Apparently, M is in to some freaky stuff. 😉


  46. Ooooh more than like? Maybe something else that starts with “L” hummm….


  47. Sumo says:

    Bloomer, after all this time, you have doubts about my evilness? If I had any feelings, I’d almost be offended.

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  48. Let’s all tell stories!

    Truth or dare?


  49. M says:

    Well when I wakened this morning I held Cill’s hand. Now this afternoon it’s Moe’s big hand around a glass of Chivas in the next room.. They’re equally lovely huggable men. Am I making sense? You know, don’t you? How much do/don’t you all know about this? Sumo knows, I think.

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  50. Sumo you look deceptively *not* evil is the thing. I know you are likely evil, then I see your grinning icon looking like such a nice guy in a kitchen, and I forget you are evil (in fact, you might try “I’m not evil like those othe guys game” I think it might work for you…)


  51. Sumo says:

    The Mighty Sumo knows all.


  52. Ooooh you woke up with Cill? Go on…


  53. M says:

    Fuzzie knows, Farm Boy knows. Come on, fess up! OMG have I spoken completely out of turn? I’m too chagrined to ask Moe now. O no! O dear O dear !


  54. Ok wait is this where I realize I have been talking to one person with multiple personality disorder all this time? Because I am not sure one bar of Toblerone is going to be enough to help me cope with that…

    But you were saying M, before evil Sumo interrupted…

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  55. Sumo says:

    Bloomer, my motto is “Smile. It makes them wonder what you’re up to.”

    Liked by 1 person

  56. Fuzzie? Farm boy? Chime in anytime…


  57. M says:

    Well Cill likes Colin Meads a famous Rugby player of times gone by. He likes to imitate Colin’s voice. He has it down pat. The Moe voice in this blog is exactly Colin’s voice, how Colin likes to mention the favourite woman in his life (“Mrs Moehau Man” my * old mum). Hey, you know all this already, you play with me Bloom! 😉

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  58. No, no truly I am not playing…do tell!


  59. Ok wait, let’s go back… You woke up holding Cill’s hand and…

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  60. Sumo says:

    Methinks Bloomers needs someone to send her a copy of that 50 Shades of Shite, or whatever the hell it’s called.


  61. Me confused, time for sleep, maybe it will make sense in the morning?

    (True confession line is still open, go ahead, type away! I’ll catch up!)


  62. M says:

    No after I woke up I dressed and found Cill and I held his hand. It was a big monemt for me because he had set a rule of “no touching”. Hehehehe he thinks he’ll lose control and rape me (wish he would!) he’s got the hots so much. He’s scared of oxytocin or something.


  63. Go on Sumo, you were telling us about you being evil, specific examples are always helpful…


  64. Tell him it’s too late to worry about that! Silly boys!


  65. Cill says:

    Well hell I’m on shot #6 here Sumo and damn I feel good, witnessing M’s tale of travail unfolding. Cheers!

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  66. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Have you ever noticed that when Superman shows up, you can’t find Clark Kent anywhere?
    Now, about the other matter, would you like to be teased about bears?

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  67. (Ahem, Cill, not sure if you are following but she said “I wish he would.” That would be a green light! Do you have red and green and yellow traffic lights on no? If not green means “Go!”)


  68. Sumo says:

    You want to hear about the time I split man’s head open on a fire alarm, the time I seduced a girl who was about to enter a convent, or the time I tried to pull a man out of a car and kill him?

    FWIW, one of those anecdotes is untrue. Have fun figuring out which one. 😉

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  69. M says:

    So Cill is Moe and vice-versa. You knew so Bloom, course you did! You were playing me all along! 😉 Moe is Cill’s Colin Meads, who speaks in Colin’s voice and says all the things Colin would say in any situation. It’s clever.

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  70. Oh thank goodness Fuzzie, yes, tell me about bears…and what I am missing???

    * that was NZ not no, sorry!


  71. M I am still confused! But go on…

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  72. Cill says:

    “Have fun figuring out which one”
    No bro, not after 7 shots I’m not.


  73. M says:



  74. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I’m sure Mrs Moehau Man (my long suffering old mum) would be as confused as I am at M’s convoluted explanation of a very simple matter.

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  75. Ok wait, moe I am not your long suffering old mum am I? Omg what day is this? Who am I????? Where is that Toblerone bar???


  76. Moehau Man says:

    A moehau Man female would be more direct about the whole thing. Something along the lines of “Look here, this Colin Meads is a Kiwi joker who imitates our Moe something dreadful”.


  77. Maybe I should try online dating? I may be spending too much time alone, lol!!! Or maybe I just need sleep, yeah that’s it… Zzzzzzzzz 😉

    You guys are sure weirdos but I still like ya!


  78. Cill says:

    What was I supposed to be figuring out again?
    1. Split man’s head open on a fire alarm…
    2. Seduced a girl who was about to enter a convent…
    3. Tried to pull a man out of a car and kill him?
    (glug) Chivas down the hatch.
    Now I’m feeling honed up to go.

    For starters, #3 is true.
    I’ll come back to the other 2

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  79. Sumo says:

    Really, Bloomer? All the weirdos you’ve met online (like The Mighty Sumo), and you still think online dating is a good idea?

    I done thought you was smarter than that.

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  80. Oh, oh I want to guess too, is it number one? Split guy’s head on a fire alarm? While grinning and laughing all evil like?


  81. You have a point there Sumo. Maybe I should go down to the cat shelter tomorrow instead….hummm


  82. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bears like honey. We’re very furry and cuddly.
    That’s for starters.

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  83. @ fuzzie you know I have a wild bee hive on my place with 30+ years of stored honey in it by now, yes? And a river filled with salmon and steelhead just a 1/4 mile walk away? And lots of wild blackberries, too! But no bears….


  84. Cill says:

    Shit. My sisters have arrived, in cahoots with Molly. Mischief is afoot. I’m being ganged up on here.

    Sumo, Split man’s head open on a fire alarm is false.

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  85. Not one single bear anywhere!


  86. Sumo says:

    Cill, brother…..I feel your pain. I would gladly chop my own arm off to avoid being around my sister.

    And, since you made your guess…………sorry, no. You be wrong.

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  87. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    You’re tempting me. Would you make me chamomile tea and lemon cookies?

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  88. Cill says:

    Sumo, fair question: are you Roman Catholic?
    ( “Yes” would mean #2 is probably true “Seduced a girl who was about to enter a convent”)

    I’m already thinking “You baad man, you bad bad man…”

    “No” would mean back to drawing board I must go.


  89. Cill says:

    “Would you make me chamomile tea and lemon cookies?”
    Ohh wot?
    Is this Beatrix Potter here? Enid Blyton?
    Ferk chamomile tea, we want Scotch on the Rocks bro!

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  90. @ fuzzie I have a whole box of sleepy time tea (my favorite) and could indeed make some lemon cookies!

    But first, you aren’t moe’s mum, are you? 😉

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  91. So was I right? Split head on fire alarm? If so the tell was more concrete and visual detail in that one than then the other two tales…


  92. Sumo says:

    Bloomer…….you and Cill made the same guess. Try to pay attention, doll. 😉

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  93. Cill says:

    We all root for Fuzzy!
    We’ve got your back Fuzzy Bear!




  94. Padawan says:

    The Word is mightier than the Sword (by Padawan, Blog Laureate 2014 – ?)

    The fair maiden disappeared
    By kidnapping, it was feared
    So Yoda and crew
    A plan they drew
    And space ships they also prepared

    Across space they flew out far
    To a planet of the Bear Star
    And sure enough
    They saw her trussed
    In a room with the door ajar

    Yoda’s bright light-sabre swished
    While Meddy shook his wee fist
    And bold Padawan
    With Fuzzy his man
    Saw her about to be kissed

    It was Jabba the loathsome brute
    About to give her a beaut
    His knees were bent
    With evil intent
    To add to his ill repute

    So Padawan chanted his verse
    And Jabba started to curse
    With hands on his ears
    He fell down in tears
    As the verse got steadily worse

    When Jabba fell comatose
    They snatched her from under his nose
    Out they did skip
    And into their ship
    Without need for battle or blows

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  95. Cill says:

    Go Fuzzy! G-O-O-O-O-O-O-!-!-!


  96. Padawan, did you post that one some time ago on a blog far, far away? 😉 I seem to remember a similar poem starting a rhyming spree that got both all put in time out!

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  97. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I am not Moe’s mum. I had thought about introducing more characters but, I like being a bear too much.
    All these concessions. Oh my!

    I have to be careful flirting with Bloom. It matters because I care.

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  98. Cill says:

    Sumo it’s a bit post fait accompli but:
    the answer is “Seduced a girl who was about to enter a convent”
    Nevertheless You are, indeed, a bad SOB, is all.


  99. Cill says:

    You’re right, Bloom. I got us both put on detention by obs. Please accept a belated apology from me.

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  100. Cill says:

    I know that Fuzzy.

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  101. @ cill so you are padawan, too? I actually suspected that one.

    @ fuzzie I get that, and respect it. (Leaves a big pot of honey and a pile of cookies)

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  102. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Ahhhh, cookies of contentment!!! Yum!


  103. Spawny Get says:

    “cill so you are padawan, too? I actually suspected that one”

    I’m sorry to say that you have, once again, failed to qualify for even
    The Cub Scout ‘I can detecting’ Badge

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  104. Yoda says:

    Poem started with me a hero I was.
    Then I was hero not.
    Not like this I do.

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  105. Yoda says:

    My Moe has a hairless chest smooth as steel

    Shave it he does?


  106. Liz says:

    Whoa…this thread has moved along since I posted last night. Haven’t read through any. Want to ‘like’ them all, so I probably won’t like many more. Too many likes makes Liz an unebil girl. I stopped with liking this one:

    “Why the hell is everyone so giddy?”
    That one made me laugh out loud, Sumo.
    I “got” it. 😛

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  107. Sumo says:

    Thanks, Liz. Birds of an ebul feather and all that noize.

    Grats, Cill. You figured it out. The other two anecdotes were from my days as a bouncer.


  108. Spawny Get says:

    I spoke to an actual Aussie today, apparently Cill has been withholding the big accent tells:

    the number between five and seven

    ‘fish and chips’

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  109. theasdgamer says:

    Soap Opera titles:

    “Spawny’s Place”

    “All my bloggers”

    “As the Web World Turns”

    “The Young and the Dateless”

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  110. theasdgamer says:

    Was dancing with a woman last night who wanted to polish belt buckles and said she’d invite me to her party. Said she had a great time. Women commonly have a great time with me. Almost like it’s too perfect for the women. If they aren’t unhappy, then they’re not happy, lolz.


  111. Spawny Get says:

    Spawny Space as SciFi dope opera?
    ‘dope’ == ‘idiot’, not dope dope, dopey dope

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  112. theasdgamer says:

    Looking at Liz’s avatar, I want that puppy on my chest, “kissing” my face. Puppy love is great.

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  113. Farm Boy says:

    I liked the old Spawny avatar better.

    Liked by 1 person

  114. theasdgamer says:

    My point about women not being happy being happy is that they need some drama, too. Likely competition with other women.

    Liked by 1 person

  115. Cill says:

    ‘fish and chips’
    Aussie = “Fesh and cheps”
    Kiwi = “Fush and chups”

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  116. Cill says:

    FB, “I liked the old Spawny avatar better.”
    I preferred the old Spawy tin suit avatar, complete with Cornish tin hat with boob on top painted blue to resemble an old bobby helmet and boob inside helmet with MSGL face.


  117. @farm boy the story of the shooting is tragic. I do wonder if it will draw attention to some of the injustice and insanity in the family court system? Perhaps a chance for mra to advocate for reform?

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  118. And btw even after sleep and retreading this I am still totally confused!


  119. So Cill, which other characters are also you? I feel like I am the last to know! Or are you a character of someone else?


  120. Cill says:

    I am me. Moe is my “Colin Meads” voice. Padawan is my ditty-writer. And that’s all, Bloom. That’s my limit.

    I’ve been a great admirer of Colin Meads since my childhood and became expert at imitating his voice IRL. In social gatherings people would ask me to “do Colin Meads”, and I would hold forth on sports or current affairs in my Meads voice, and they’d all crack up laughing – especially when I came to the “my old mum” bit.

    I thought hard about dropping the Moe persona because his presence here might cause some confusion. I did drop him for quite a long while but brought him back at Yoda’s request. Yoda and co. knew he was me, you see. I actually explained it all way back before you arrived here, Bloom.

    I am Cill, Moe, Padawan and no more than that. I regret the confusion.

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  121. Yoda says:

    I regret the confusion.

    Not true this would be

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  122. It’s ok Cill, I like mo and padawan and hope they are not retired 🙂

    Yoda and co. Hummm… What’s that about? Hummmmm


  123. Cill says:

    “Yoda and co. Hummm… What’s that about?”
    Yoda, Fuzzy, Spawny, Tarn. Not many of us here in them days.


  124. Padawan
    (By Bloom, feeling poetic)

    Padawan, dear padawan
    I hope you are not now gone
    The world, you see, needs a pawn
    To reveal the secrets of life upon
    Just like night becomes dawn
    You shine a light, dear padawan
    I hope your verse is not forgone
    For it puts a smile my face upon
    And for that I thank you padawan
    Prank away, you impish one
    The world needs glee as much as brawn

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  125. @ cill oh I see, I thought you meant Yoda is one of many characters, too! (Hummmm)

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  126. Moehau Man says:

    “oh I see, I thought you meant Yoda is one of many characters, too”

    Yes well, Yoda’s not a bad bloke, but dunno if I’d be partial to sharing me skin with someone green. The line has to be drawn somewhere. As Mrs Moehau Man (my mono-hued old mum) once said, “We come in many colors but in the end there is only one.”

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  127. Asdgamer “My point about women not being happy being happy is that they need some drama, too. Likely competition with other women.”

    Sadly this is true of many many women–they’re not happy without drama. :I

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  128. Liz says:

    ‘Sadly this is true of many many women–they’re not happy without drama. :I “

    Yes. The odd thing is, you’ll seldom meet a woman who claims to like drama. They all say they don’t like it, and then (with a few NAWALT exceptions) bring it. Like there’s some bug in their programming.

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  129. Liz says:

    You spoiled the fun, Cill. 😛

    I’d guessed about Moe and Padawan a while back. 😉

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  130. Cill says:

    Sumo at 5:59 am

    Too many shots last night or I would’ve got the joke there and then.

    “50 Shades of Shite”


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  131. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well Cill, you must admit you had 3 shades of shite going on anyhow.


  132. Cill says:

    Complete change of subject.
    Yoda’s link

    ‘Scott’s “level of desperation” was “not uncommon among persons who in arrears in their child support.”’
    Well… whaddaya know.

    I find it amusing that Patterson’s investigation into men “people” being jailed for child support arrears is yet another TOTAL FAILURE to address the real issue, which is the institutionalized, codified hatred of feminism towards men. It was feminists who pressured for incarceration for child support arrears in the first place. Not content with that, they then pressured for incarceration without need for due process.

    In 2011 the Supreme Court ruled that the right to counsel only applied to criminal cases, not to people in civil or family court proceedings. So… you can be imprisoned without due process in family court matters. Civil (as opposed to criminal) imprisonment? How can this be? Simple: family court matters involve precious women + odious men = punish the men. Imprisonment for debt is pre Charles Dickens’ days. He (Dickens) would turn in his grave.

    This Western World is blind to white woman’s hatred. The rape culture frenzy is not the only exemplification of it.

    Last night I chatted with my mother on this subject and she would totally agree with what I’m writing here. So NAWALT. But far too many women *are* like that, I’m afraid.

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  133. Farm Boy says:

    ‘Scott’s “level of desperation” was “not uncommon among persons who in arrears in their child support.”’

    If he was a she, there would be sob stories all over the media.

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  134. Liz says:

    “In 1990, Lockheed employee and divorced father Bobby Sherrill was captured in Kuwait and spent nearly five harrowing months as an Iraqi hostage.

    When Mr. Sherrill was released, he returned to his joyful, weeping family in North Carolina.

    The next night, the sheriff came to arrest Mr. Sherrill. The charge: not paying $1,425 in child support while he was a hostage. – Washington Times”

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  135. theasdgamer says:

    Regarding drama, I think that the prevailing view among women is OWALTBNM (other women are like that but not me). And, of course, they are like that. Some precious few accept the reality that they are wired to need drama and they are able to mitigate it somewhat on their own. Of course, if we accept the pedestalized view that women are perfect, then NWALT, so there’s nothing to fix.

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  136. Poseidon says:

    @ All:

    You’ve been fun for me the past few days, so here is a link from my heart. This web site I recently discovered. The sentiments expressed mirror my own. I consider it to be red pill Christianity. Tarn, I hope you also put a few minutes into reading some of it.


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  137. Sumo says:

    For the record, I figured out the Cill/Moe thing months ago. Highly skilled investigator, doncha know.

    Cill admitted to being Padawan back at J4G, so not taking credit for that one.

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  138. Moe I found this image of you that I thought you might enjoy! It’s filled with lots of emotion, I thought, the trials of being a mysterious and misunderstood Moeheu Man.

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  139. Poseidon I am a very spiritual person and believe deeply, deeply, deeply but I too have had trouble finding a church that fits what I am reading in the Book. I hope to someday. I miss the (good, at least) fellowship. Too much crossover of church and state and politics and religion…plus it seemed that whole pharisee message went right over the heads of far too many…

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  140. Maybe a better way to say it is a church the *jives* with, not fits with.


  141. Poseidon says:

    and a pastor that is real and does not JIVE

    When I was a kid the term, Jive Turkey, was popular.

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  142. Moehau Man says:

    Yes indeed Bloom, it does pay to be misunderstood in the foreign world. You’re nothing if you’re not a victim out there. The shortage of head in the image tends to sort of tickle me pink as well. It suggests a certain lack of space for a brain, which makes me rather pathetic. More the victim, me, if you get my drift.

    Mrs Moehau Man (my acute old mum) put it succinctly when she said “victim bikkie tin o’ shite!”. I’d never heard her yell before. She was reading a false rape case at the time.

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  143. Great mission statement under the “About Us” section, very cool! I’d agree w all of that.


  144. Cill says:

    Liz 11 April, 2015 at 8:17 pm
    “The charge: not paying $1,425 in child support while he was a hostage”

    How bad does it have to get, before we reach tipping point? Every time I think it can’t get worse, the feminist world proves me wrong.

    Just as well I’ve got Moe for a bit of light relief…

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  145. When I started to feel things were not right with the church gosh, 10 plus years ago now, I didn’t dare tell a soul. I could see the drift, but everyone else was firmly on board. I am glad to see I was not alone in feeling that way. I used to attend every Sunday. Sadly I have not been in many years, could not find a church where I felt people were loving each other, even in brokenness, rather than judging each other. But I do read and study. I have been doing the daily devotional at Our Daily Bread, it is amazing how often it speaks right to my heart, is just what I needed to hear. I also used to read a chapter of Proverbs a night, I should start doing that again, lots of wisdom there. (Sorry to get “churchy” here, I do not mean to offend or push my thoughts on anyone, peace.)

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  146. Liz says:

    I agree, Bloom. We’ve had some unbelieveably bad experiences with churches…with all the moves it’s pretty difficult to find a good church home. Occasionally, we’re successful other times…ick. Just ick. It gets tiresome. I think Catholics have an advantage there with a cohesive structure. Protestants are all over the map. You step in there, no idea what to expect.

    I miss the fellowship too. In the modern world we’re losing touch with a lot of the reason behind why the church has traditionally been a center for community and social activity. A person once asked on a different forum, a while back, why an atheist might go to church, and this was one person’s response. I thought it was very apt:

    ‘If one wants a “quick shot” of community and possibly some help, but without as much risk as you’re likely to get from any recovery group, a church is the best place to go. Also, recovery groups tend to be focused on their recovery issue. If you’re lonely, in a new city, but not an alcoholic, AA isn’t really going to be the place for you. There are other places as well, but most of the others are all focused on a single activity, or aren’t as open as churches. Other examples include the wide array of service organizations (Kiwanis, Shriners, assorted masonic lodges, etc), but with those one is generally invited into the community. With most churches, just show up. Bars, well, while they can be welcoming, most aren’t actually like Cheers.”

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  147. theasdgamer says:

    Oh, that broad who was all over me apologized for being all over me once some of the liquor wore off. And she continued to be all over me, lolz, saying, “I’m not normally like this.”

    Sound familiar, ladies and gentlemen? Blame it on Rio or the liquor. Tweren’t the tinglezz.

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  148. Agreed Cill, to put a POW in jail upon his release is insanity. How can people (men and women) push for a system that makes more sense? How does punishments like taking away a driver’s license, or putting a dad in jail help anyone? I know a lot of people think this is pushed by the liberals, and it has been, but there was also a huge lashing out by conservatives against welfare moms, and deadbeat dads, and that the taxpayers should not have to foot the bill of their parenting decisions. It is complex. How do you have a safety net, without it becoming a crutch or a noose?

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  149. Cill says:



    I don’t attend church except for weddings, funerals and christenings. I can’t help noticing that, apart from the “guests” such as myself, the congregations are almost entirely female. One of my rellies is an Anglican Priest and she quietly tries to encourage me and my male cuzzies to go to her churches because, she says, the presence of young men raises the tone. Our strong voices singing along during the hymns etc. Everyone is noticeably happier and more vigorous, she says. FWIW

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  150. That’s a good point Liz. I was not raised Catholic but I have attended Catholic services on occasion and found them to be very nice. In fact, it was in a small Catholic Church that I reluctantly went to on Easter, I was I think 18 at the time, that God spoke right to my heart. I felt such a strong conviction right then and there that I was on the wrong path (usual teen angst but not on the right path), and needed to turn back to God. It wasn’t anything the priest said, it was like God was talking directly to me. I didn’t have much, but I upended my purse and put the handful of change I had to my name in the collection box on the way out. A nun said, “Bless you.” That very day I stopped drinking and smoking pot, stopped hanging out with my wayward friends, started reading the Book, read the whole thing front to back in a year. Within months events beyond my explanation transported me from the town I grew up in back to the town where my parents were from, among relatives, enrolled in college, a new peer group of church going friends, a fresh new start. I truly was born again. Not that my pride didn’t take me off that firm and straight path in years since, and I do regret that and many choices I made trying to do it “my way” but I am back there now, one step at a time. Maybe I will go check out the Catholic church around the corner tomorrow! See what I think…

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  151. (And again, I am not trying to make anyone uncomfortable, I very rarely speak about my faith, and would never want to make anyone feel thrust upon, these are my beliefs, I don’t expect anyone else to agree, nor do I judge them for it.)


  152. should say nor would I judge them for it if they believed differently…that’s what I meant to say.


  153. Moehau Man says:

    More the victim, me

    (heh) (heh) Truly shoulder-shaking stuff that.

    I quite like that.

    Mo’e the victim, me

    Want mo’e lollypop, me does.

    You foreign jokers and sheilas from U.S.A. use the misnomer “candy” for lollypops, I think.


  154. Moehau Man I think in the picture, you are hanging your head, looking tired, that’s why the head looks small. I will try to find a more upbeat photo of you, you are right, this one does not fit your upbeat attitude. My apologies! 🙂


  155. So I find it interesting that most stories of the Moehau or Bigfoot or Yeti type all seem to occur in areas with volcanoes. Hummm…

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  156. Poseidon says:

    I’ve come to realize that denomination is irrelevant. It is faith in Christ that is paramount. Catholic, Protestant, Mickey Mouse Club, makes no difference. Just faith in our savior and subsequent love for one another.

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  157. Cill says:

    Good point Bloom. (volcanoes)


  158. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I don’t think that a bear would be well recieved in church.
    Maybe if he stood at the back?

    Upthread, someone alluded to reversing the genders on the Scott shooting. If a policeman had emptied a full clip into a woman over what amounts to a monetary debt, the whole metro area would be occupied by the National Guard. It would be THE news story on the 24 hour channels since it came to light.

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  159. Yoda says:

    I don’t think that a bear would be well recieved in church.

    If cub you were,
    accepted you would be.

    Discriminate against adult males the world does.

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  160. I don’t see why bears would not be welcomed in church, they are part of creation, are they not? 😉

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  161. Liz says:

    You’re a cordial and good mannered, considerate bear, Fuzzie.
    You’d be beary welcome. (I’m sure that one never gets old, eh?)

    I was searching for good bear videos, but you’ve posted most of them. Did you know there was a war bear? I’ll bet you do…Too cool! 🙂


  162. Cill says:

    Would 8-shot jokers like me and Sumo be allowed in church?

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  163. Liz says:

    Uh…you could lead the prayer group. Prayer group is down the hall, to your left…no, not there…yeah, room’s a little small.
    Don’t worry about the mop and broom just push that to the side. Wait here and we’ll be joining you in a little bit. 😛

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  164. Cill says:

    We’d be beary beery welcome, eh?

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  165. SFC Ton says:

    The Catholic church is the enemy as it does all.it can to replace my people with Catholic Mexicans and what not.

    Plus its way far.to the left on all issues but gay marriage and abortion


  166. @ Cill you and Sumo are welcome — but you have to sit with me! Promise? I’ll bring the bottle… 😉


  167. Liz says:

    “Survivors they are”

    This author speaks truth. She’d better watch it or she’ll get lynched by the “tolerance” crowd.

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  168. Sumo says:

    I prefer to not set foot inside churches, due to my unreasonable aversion to bursting into flame.

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  169. Farm Boy says:

    You’re a cordial and good mannered, considerate bear, Fuzzie.

    But if he was mean, would he get the girl?

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  170. Cill says:

    I’ve gone thru church meetings unscathed so I guess that means I’m pure and good – unless weddings and funerals don’t count? I mean, there didn’t seem to be much preaching at the church meetings I went to. What usually goes on in a regular church meeting anyhow?

    Sumo, the Mafia Dons went to church, which means you must be badder than them. You should turn a new leaf and be pure as the driven snow, like me.

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  171. Cill says:

    …and promptly die of boredom.


  172. Cill says:

    Bloom, sure I’ll sit with you. I’ve got the bottle for it! 😀


  173. Farm Boy says:

    Would Moe be allowed in church?

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  174. Cill says:

    Spawny will know what “got the bottle for it” means. If anyone doesn’t know what it means, all ye have to do is ask, and an explanation ye shall be given.

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  175. Moehau Man says:

    Well some of my clan claim to be regular church goers, and can be insufferably narrow minded. Mrs Moehau Man (my reverent old mum) says they are so narrow they can see with both eyes through a keyhole.

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  176. Farm Boy says:


    Do you wear anything over your nether-regions?


  177. Moehau Man says:

    Well I have taken to wearing a codpiece, for modesty in the Summer. In the Winter I wear a cock-warmer, knitted out of Thar wool by Mrs Moehau Man (my industrious old mum). She says her cock-warmers could hold their heads high in any company. Compared with garments, for example, they’d be right up there with a jumper, and they’d stand up to any jerkin.


  178. @ sumo you will not burst into flames, I promise. Moe is also most welcome. Cill apparently will bring the bottle. Farm boy, fuzzie, Liz…. We’ll have a whole pew! 🙂

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  179. Now that would be a Sunday to remember! 🙂


  180. Cill says:

    Spawny will be busy fending off the church dowagers whilst we chug on the bottle and get jovial. After church, feeling holier than thou by then, we can all carry the pew back to my boat and build a bonfire on the shore. We’ll watch the pew burn while we imbibe on the ship supply. We won’t remember much on Monday morning.

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  181. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Just tell them that I am Russian Orthodox. That will set them to scrtching their heads.

    Wojtek the hero bear has been featured on this blog twice. What a magnificent bear!

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  182. Ok Cill, that sounds good… Of course Spawny will be there, and ton, and anyone who wants!

    P.s. sumo I am pretty sure if those who lie, cheat, and steal all week then show up for their deacon duty on Sunday so they can judge others don’t burst into flames, you’re good.


  183. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I forgot to say thanks for the recognition and compliments. I am blushing.

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  184. Fuzzie I have only managed to eat 4 triangle sections of the Toblerone so far, still plenty left! 🙂 it’s kind of sad eating chocolate alone somehow…


  185. Cill says:

    Heh heh
    I’m here eating scallops straight out of the sea, some Sauvignon Gris to wash it down and all is well in the State of Cill.
    Ahhhh this is wickedly good…
    Only one thing could better this…

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  186. Bear video for fuzzie, not sure if you hAve seen this one?


    I suspect the bear is eating wasps or something, not honey, but a bear has got to eat, right? 🙂


  187. Yoda says:

    Fuzzie I have only managed to eat 4 triangle sections of the Toblerone so far, still plenty left!

    Stop teasing the bear you should.

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  188. Sauvignon Gris? You mean Sauvignon blanc? Maybe they call it different there. Mmmmm, scallops, yum.

    …And what would that one better thing be, Cill?


  189. @ Yoda I was being good, I didn’t even mention I was considering going to get a white Toblerone bar w honey and almond nougat, too, with more milk, bc I thought that might be too much? I was holding back on the Toblerone taunting, really I was!

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  190. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    That was one very determined bear! About the chocolate, I understand. I have been eating alone too long myself.
    Vintners down under do some unusual things. I wouldn’t put it past them to try anything. However, Sauvignon Gris is a new one for me. Pinot Gris has a worldwide following.

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  191. P. s. cill I had a Kiwi stop in my biz today! He was from the middle part, I would have to look at the map again to tell you the exact city, starts with an “m” and he said is cloudy most of the time. He married an American gal who went there bc she likes “lord of the Rings” and he says he was the closest to a hobbit she could find. They were both very nice and said they had heard of Moeheau man! 🙂

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  192. Sumo says:

    From what I’m told, they have some friggin’ spectacular wines Down Under.

    Also, re: SSC (Spontaneous Sumo Combustion), not going to risk it. I came to an understanding with the Big Guy Up There a long time ago – I stay out of his way, and He doesn’t smite me for sh*ts & giggles. It’s worked so far.

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  193. Bloom Grape trivia: Sauvignon blanc, a white wine grape, crossed with Cabernet Franc, a red wine grape, to create their much more famous offspring – Cabernet sauvignon. Yep!

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  194. Cill says:

    It contains Sauvignon Blanc and Pinot Gris grape varieties and is delicious. I’m not a great white wine fan, and Sauvignon Gris is the first white I’ve really liked. Sumo is right, there are some spectacular wines down under.

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  195. FuzzieWuzzie says:


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  196. Sumo says:

    Sumo is right

    He usually is.


  197. Cill says:

    “P. s. cill I had a Kiwi stop in my biz today”
    The city they live in began with “m”. Okay, in the “middle part” the only city is Wellington.

    Marlborough maybe? It’s a wine-growing region at top of South Island.
    “They were both very nice” yep, they were Kiwis
    “they had heard of Moehau man”. Aha! very nice! 😉

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  198. Cill says:

    “Sumo is right

    He usually is.”

    Are you okay bro?

    “He always is is what the real dinkum Sumo would say.


  199. Sumo says:

    Nah, that would be egotistical and inaccurate. I am, on rare occasions, wrong.

    Especially when it comes to mathy stuff. I’m not that kind of Asian.

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  200. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I was wrong once in saying me left ball hung lower than me right. A Kiwi joker put a bet on it with me once, and I made a snap decision and lost. Us males should always check our ball-hang at the start of the day.


  201. Cill says:

    “And what would that one better thing be, Cill?”


    You *know* what I mean!

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  202. Oooooooh

    Boom boom! 😉


  203. Liz says:

    A LEO once sent us a portion of a training video (I’ve never seen this one online, not sure why). It showed footage of an unarmed man shot to death at a gas station. There were three different cameras (one the police dashboard camera, the other two were above, from the vantage point over the gas pumps. Two of the videos showed the man killed in cold blood seemingly for no reason whatsoever. The third, from a different vantage point, showed a man with something that looked exactly like a revolver, and the man positioning himself in the ‘fire’ position several times. I’m not embellishing at all…no matter how many times you rewound that video and watched it, you saw the same thing. It turned out to be a cell phone, and the antenna was thick and the man looked like he was aiming it, twice, but it happened REALLY fast. That made quite an impression on me.

    In the Rodney King videos, the media used selective footage as well and when the actual full tape was released the jurors said the untelevised portions were crucial to the defense’s case. And there have been so many more…the Italians who were shot at the security checkpoint in Iraq were another, wow after the investigation that shed a lot of light on things the media had completely ignored. I just try never come to any conclusions anymore until an investigation is over.

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  204. SFC Ton says:

    Yea there is always more going on then the msm shows.

    This may be a justifiable shooting or not but the initial reaction of parts of the man o sphere has been no different then the anti White SJW’s. Which is why the msm releases edited video clips and why I don’t get spun up about it.

    Guilt comes down to “was it reasonable.Will most reasonable adults do A during that situation”. Right now we don’t have enough intell to say either way


  205. Yoda says:

    Which is why the msm releases edited video clips and why I don’t get spun up about it.

    Media agenda it does have.
    Tool of the dark side often it is.

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  206. Farm Boy says:


    Does your Mum wear anything to cover her nether-regions?


  207. Moehau Man says:

    Mrs Moehau Man (my modest old mum) wears a deerskin cover from shoulder to knee. We do have cultural sensitivity, y’know. We respect the modesty of Kiwi sheilas.

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  208. Farm Boy says:


    I would say that would be an improvement over the PPP types.

    Perhaps we should join you.

    You culture seems to have some virtues

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  209. Moehau Man says:

    Mrs Moehau Man (my virtuous old mum) teaches cultural sensitivity classes. It was some time before she could convince Moehau Man males to wear a codpiece during the Summer months, but she persuaded us in the end. She knits the codpieces and sells them for a healthy profit, y’know.


  210. Farm Boy says:

    There seems to be capitalism in Moe’s world.

    Perhaps the U.S. should take note.


  211. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps the topic of this thread should change to “Ask Moe a Question”.

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  212. Liz says:

    Are the cod-pieces custom fit, Moe? 😛

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  213. Farm Boy says:


    My girlfriend is rebellious. What do I do?


  214. Moehau Man says:

    Doesn’t “Ah Yeah Gidday” mean the same thing as “Ask Moe a Question”? I’ll never quite understand the ways of you foreign types.


  215. Farm Boy says:


    What is the best way to attract a Sheila?


  216. Farm Boy says:


    If you live on the bottom of the world, how do you not fall off?

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  217. Liz says:

    Moe, how do you celebrate?


  218. Moehau Man says:

    I’ll do me best to answer any genuine question that is appropriately modest.

    Okay here’s the first one, from Liz:

    “Are the cod-pieces custom fit, Moe?”

    Mrs Moehau Man (my virtuous old mum) advertises them as “tailor made to fit any size”.
    She got the idea from a tiny cod piece she knitted for me when I was knee high to a grasshopper. She knitted an image of a tiny Thar-skin kayak into the stitch. Today when I wear it the bloody thing’s more like a battleship – especially when I’m on a raging stand.

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  219. Moehau Man says:

    “My girlfriend is rebellious. What do I do?”

    I deem that a put it in the too hard basket immodest question.

    Next question please.


  220. Moehau Man says:

    “What is the best way to attract a Sheila?”

    Shove an oblong rock into your codpiece.

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  221. Moehau Man says:

    “If you live on the bottom of the world, how do you not fall off?”

    Remove the oblong rock from your codpiece

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  222. Moehau Man says:

    “Moe, how do you celebrate?”

    We restore the oblong rock to our codpiece before putting them to use.

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  223. Yoda says:

    Oblong rock important it is.

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  224. Moe what advice does your dear old mum have for me?


  225. Moehau Man says:

    “Moe what advice does your dear old mum have for me?”

    Give short shrift to the man who approaches with an oblong rock in his codpiece.

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  226. And what about you moe? What advice would you give me?


  227. Yoda says:

    Give short shrift to the man who approaches with an oblong rock in his codpiece.

    One needs to do this not.
    Fall off of the world he will.

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  228. theasdgamer says:

    Moe, is there any extra charge for more material for the codpieces? Heh.


  229. theasdgamer says:

    Since Liz is too modest to ask herself (Ok, I don’t really believe this, but play along, lol), does your mum require the services of an assistant to measure for the custom-fitting?

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  230. Moehau Man says:

    “the services of an assistant”

    I stand behind her with a Kauri Club in one hand, tapping it into the palm of the other hand.
    Tap.. tap.. tap..

    Mrs Moehau Man (my innocent old mum) has never had any problems with her customers.

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  231. Spawny Get says:

    I see the cop got the sack already, has he been charged yet? What with?


  232. Poseidon says:

    Not charged yet, but speculation predominates 2nd degree murder. What a shame for all involved!


  233. theasdgamer says:

    @ Moe

    I deem that a put it in the [strikeout]too hard basket [end strikeout] immodest question.

    I saw what you did there, you ornery rascal. :-]

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  234. SFC Ton says:

    Spwany that is not the full video

    The full.video comes.from.th dash board cam that I posts showing a struggle etc before the shooting

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  235. theasdgamer says:

    My new face with stache, goat, and chin wig:



  236. SFC Ton says:

    Story I read said murder 1 which this clearly is not even if it’s murder at all

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  237. Yoda says:

    Murder One requires premeditation does it not?

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  238. Poseidon says:

    @ Yoda:

    “Murder One requires premeditation does it not?”

    Yes, it does not. (in Yodage)

    Murder two, second degree is partially defined as “in the heat of the moment” as might be considered the case with this cop.

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  239. SFC Ton says:

    Yep. Malice a forethought or some such. The whole guilty act and guilty mind thing.

    Which could be out there, who knows? I do know this, the politics of the event will matter more then the truth.


  240. theasdgamer says:

    Regarding the broad in my latest post–she’s separated. That’s why I didn’t make a play on her. After a bullet shot by an estranged husband once passed within ten feet of me, I’m gun-shy about married women. No, I wasn’t the boyfriend of the estranged woman who was the target of the murder attempt–merely an innocent bystander.

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  241. Poseidon says:

    Married women are completely off limits to me. I’m not shopping anyway, but if I were in the market I would never do a married woman.

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  242. Sumo says:

    I’ve investigated more use of force incidents than I can count, and I absolutely hated having to watch video footage.

    It’s not like the movies, friends – a single point of view, shitty or no audio, and unless you know the context (the events preceeding where the recording begins), then it almost always looks bad.

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  243. Spawny Get says:

    Pretty sure my video has the money shots. The ones that got him fired and charged. Why would you say yours is more informative?


  244. Spawny Get says:

    How do you make shooting an unarmed man who’s running away, eight times in the back (iirc) look ‘not bad’?

    He already got sacked, even the cops knew his goose was cooked ffs.


  245. Sumo says:

    I haven’t watched the video in question. I know nothing about the dead man’s past actions or possible criminal history.

    However, if I was a cop dealing with an individual whom I knew had a history of violence, and I had a reasonable belief that by not stopping that individual right then and there, that individual would likely go off and commit another act of violence, then yes – I might shoot said individual in the back, and continue to shoot until the threat (or potential threat) had been neutralized.

    I’m not suggesting that this is the case here; I am merely offering a hypothetical possibility.

    And re: the officer getting sacked – police agencies have been known to sacrifice their own members to appease public outcry. I’m not suggesting that the officer did not deserve to be fired or charged, but after the events last year in Ferguson, it seems plausible that the Powers That Be would try to stem the potential backlash by making a quick “show of force”.


  246. @ mo “be bloom”

    Hugs and kisses for moe!!!! (Don’t worry M, just as a friend!)

    Caveman wisdom, good stuff! Thank you. 🙂

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  247. Spawny Get says:

    Just watch the video that I linked.

    I’m not anti police, all my dealings with them have been fair and reasonable. That’s all I ask.

    I am crystal clear that Ferguson was an utterly different scenario.

    If I were you, I wouldn’t choose this hill to die on, that’s all.

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  248. Sumo says:

    Ok, I watched the video, and it showed me……not a hell of a lot. Basically picks up right when Scott starts to run away, and shows the cop fire his gun. No way to determine what happened previously. I might have seen something drop to the ground right before Scott started to run, but the video quality is shite, and I can’t be certain. Could have been a weapon, could have been a cell phone, could have been nothing.

    That would be the “lack of context” thing that I mentioned.

    Has there been any report of how many of the shots actually hit Scott? I ask because police are trained to shoot until the threat is neutralized, meaning firing 8 shots is not unreasonable.

    FWIW, I have never gotten the impression that you are anti-police. I’m not even saying that I disagree with you when it comes to punishing the officer if this was actually murder. I’m just saying that these types of incidents are convoluted, and the answer cannot be found in shitty iPhone videos.

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  249. Spawny Get says:

    I haven’t disagreed with anything you said.

    Good night


  250. Farm Boy says:

    A new post is up.


  251. Cill says:

    Well this post has just beaten the record number of comments to a post by Moe by a whopping 3800%


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  252. theasdgamer says:

    No one liked my comment about being gun-shy of married women? Something wrong with my aim?


  253. SFC Ton says:

    Because it has the initial struggle and (if I recall correctly) less dead space in the video

    Remember the bystander did not start recording until after shut went down.


  254. SFC Ton says:

    5 rounds hit Sumo, only two in the lethal areas. Or so I have been told.

    I find the difference in opinion between trained observers and non trained pretty interesting

    The whole chain of events is important Spwany. If Scott is running away with the cops tazer, then perhaps lethal force is justifiable. Not saying that occurred but giving you a realistic what if

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  255. Sumo says:

    Thanks Ton.


  256. Spawny Get says:

    “If Scott is running away with the cops tazer, then perhaps lethal force is justifiable.”

    I don’t think you shoot him over the involuntary theft of a tazer (was it still wired to him? so, being dragged along? IDK)…BUT if you had reasonable grounds to believe he’d endanger the public (or the cop himself) THEN you might have justification.

    From what I saw, that’s going to be a tough sell.

    I’ve heard conflicting reports over the dead guy’s legal history (so history that the cop might have heard over the radio back at the stop), so we’ll see. I’m sure that those recordings will exist.

    Pretty fair summary here, I think. Skip the first 5 mins and 5 seconds if you’ve seen the dash cam footage.

    (FTR just checked again, still not hyperventilating. Thanks for your concern)


  257. SFC Ton says:

    Having the tazer ( if he has the tazer) puts the cops life (potentially) @ risk opening up a decent defense for the cop ( maybe. Even that depends on the state and other factors)

    & as Liz pointed out, it doesn’t even need to be an actuall weapon. During a shoot/ don’t shoot simulation I killed two people pulling gun like objects. Justifiable shooting in each case. In the real world I broke a hajji’s skull with the butt stock because his hair brush looked like an old school Soviet grenade. Justifiable.

    Really it boils down to reasonable doubt. One attorney will try to create that reasonable doubt and th other will try to remove it.

    So far, th only thing that looks bad for the cop is it looks like he moved evidence, but that might not be spot on. However the media and the SJW will do their best to ensure negros riot if things don’t go there way


  258. Spawny Get says:

    just speculating a little as I can’t be arsed to chase details that aren’t important.

    IF he’s running away with the cop’s tazer, I believe it’s because the hooks are still in him from the cop tazing him. IF I am right, then it’s just being dragged along by the wires (I’d forgive the cop for picking it up and moving it towards the body IF this is the case). So, IF I am right, it’s a bit harsh to back-shoot the guy for that, is it not? Also, not played with a tazer, but wouldn’t it need reloading before firing again? So really it’s not an offense weapon anymore, is it? A third person might think it is, but the cop who has already used it knows it isn’t and the dead guy made no aggressive moves that I saw.

    & as Liz pointed out, it doesn’t even need to be an actuall weapon. During a shoot/ don’t shoot simulation I killed two people pulling gun like objects. Justifiable shooting in each case. In the real world I broke a hajji’s skull with the butt stock because his hair brush looked like an old school Soviet grenade. Justifiable.

    Really it boils down to reasonable doubt. One attorney will try to create that reasonable doubt and th other will try to remove it.

    Fine. Bad idea to be dumb when a gun is aimed at you (As Tommy says in the clip I just linked – I think you’ll find it agreeable). That you only slammed the stock of the gun into the third guy makes him one lucky mo-fo. I wouldn’t have had any problem with you not being so merciful.

    Watch the Tommy clip, he actually (aside from the brief damn singing interludes) says some sensible things. You can skip to 5:05 to avoid the dash cam footage, some singing and some stuff about the shit he’s taking over his views (from black guys).


  259. theasdgamer says:

    Re Scott: The key point in all this is whether the victim was brandishing a weapon. He wasn’t, so far as we can tell. The victim gets the benefit of the doubt.

    Still, better to wait for more info to come out over the next two weeks or so. No reason to rush to judgment.


  260. SFC Ton says:

    I have to switch devices to watch the video but I will

    Tazer class my freind, the hooks etc would pop out/ can be removed then Scot would have a stun gun. My understanding is they found the stun gun cap by the car meaning he possibly took of with the stun gun portion. That’s after Scott recovered from being tazed( if he was…. lots o.questions but it’s my understanding he was tazed to no effect which could scare the shit out of the cop)

    Maybe. Hell if I know one way or the other but what you said about the stun gun is not necessarily true. Of course could be the way it went as well


  261. Spawny Get says:

    “Scot would have a stun gun.”
    Yeah, I understand that, but during the encounter (after him being tazed) it wasn’t a viable weapon, unless Scott had a replacement set of lines.

    I understand that neither of us know, I was just saying that moving ‘whatever it was’ wasn’t necessarily terminal either.


  262. SFC Ton says:

    It is a viable weapon

    Without the cap/ once the darts are fired, the tazer maybe be used as a stun gun


    And while the tazer is not routinely lethal, once the cop is incapacitated he would be easy prey.


  263. jf13 says:

    I’m going to make an educated guess that “they” recently lowered the electrical charge delivered, in order to be more humane/safer, but the training materials haven’t caught up.


  264. Spawny Get says:

    Thanks for the tazer update. I see the danger had the guy not been running away.


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