Libertarianism and Its Issues


There are many versions of libertarianism, but they all more or less say “maximum liberty, minimal government”.   This is appealing, but there are issues.

The problems with Libertarianism come down to

1.  The tragedy of the commons.   Because nobody really owns the air, the water, etc. then exploitation and ruination is very possible.

2.  What to do with those that mess up?  Given too much freedom, many people have the lack of self control, and will invariably do stupid stuff.  Pure libertarianism would suggest that we just let these people be.  But this would never happen in a wealthy country.

So how might this relate to feminism?  Especially with respect to their sexuality, women are very much libertarians.  They have wanted as much freedom as possible, and have received it.  All the more to exploit it for themselves, and themselves only.  There is no thought given to how what they do may affect their future marriage and/or children.  And according to Hillary Clinton, the children are a common good that needs effort from all to make right.  Yet we allow women the liberty to despoil their future children with today’s behavior.

Perhaps the evil Patriarchy had it correct to restrict women’s sexuality.  Liberty for those who behave irresponsibly is asking for trouble within a society.

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148 comments on “Libertarianism and Its Issues
  1. Farm Boy says:

    One thing that always burned me is women saying things like “it’s for the children”, when at the same time doing things that are clearly not in the children’s best interest.

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  2. Cill says:

    “Especially with respect to their sexuality, women are very much libertarians. They have wanted as much freedom as possible, and have received it.”

    Women want to have their cake and eat it, by getting the advantages of sexual freedom (libertarianism) and big govt (the antithesis of libertarianism). In a P.C. environment big government will always prefer women – even white women – because they are not the Patriarchy (straight white men). In order to meet women’s needs big govt must suppress and oppress males, especially white males. This happens all around women much of the time and they don’t spare it a second thought, not even for their sons.

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  3. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    In another thread, the issue was raised that what was concealed is now out in the open and undeniable. It is as if men are just going to have to accept it. I don’t think so and I think it will backfire.

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  4. Yoda says:

    It is as if men are just going to have to accept it.

    Doubtful this is.

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  5. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    A few years ago, the fembots thought they could shove “fat acceptence” down the throats of men. That went too far.
    I am sure that I have mentioned Karen Straughan’s observation that always, women were essentially guaranteed an opportunity to reproduce. What they wanted was an upgrade in the quality of men. Feminism tried to deliver that but couldn’t. Not enough top tier men to go around, one to a customer.
    What we may have entered is a time in which this all backfires on feminism and that they won’t even deliver one man for each woman, hypergamy notwithstanding.

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  6. Yoda says:

    From GBFM via Dalrock this does come,

    Deti Genesis:
    Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee, to the degree he games you and makes your gina go tinzgzzlolzozozozozoz.

    Deti Matthew:
    3The Pharisees (Detis) also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh so long as he makes her gina go tingzzlzoozlzozozozoz during the dating period? 6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh, so as aas he maketh her gina tingzlzozozlolzolzolz. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder unless her gina stops tingzlzlzzizlzizlzzizlz. 7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. But if the wife’s gina fails to tinzgzlzozzizlzozoz she can file for divorce and take the children and home and pension and savings, for such is the gospel of the Deti.

    Deti Exodus:
    Thou shalt not commit adultery. (unless you are a woman whose gina has stopped going tingzzlzlzgzzlzlolzlzlzoz. then shalt ye transform yer husband into a beta bucks atm machine and seek gina tingzlzlzozzo elsewhere)

    Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, unless thy neighbor doesn’t make her gina go tinzgzlzlzlzooloz in which case butztzhetxtz is righeous, godly, and good.

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  7. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    Moses’s wife is throwing dishes at GBFM. All those tingles.

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  8. Spawny Get says:

    GBFM is an odd one. When he speaks in clear he can make some great points. Other times he speaks gibberish and here he appears to confuse what Deti is saying about what IS, with what he and Deti (I suspect) would prefer.

    This is where tradcons fall into two distinct camps, IMHO, the ones that address reality (Dalrock, Deti et al) are the ones worth spending time reading. The ones quoting the bible and inviting men under the bus are not.

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  9. SFC Ton says:

    The main problem with libertarians and libertarianism is….. it’s liberal and they have that liberal Pollyanna view of humanity….. which would probably work well enough if your nation is small enough, monoethnic and lacking in diversity, vibrancy etc etc.

    I see GBFM as unhelpful… he’d rather eat his own then get anything accomplished. I think this stems from his piety but who knows?

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  10. Cill says:

    Who/what is GBFM?

    I search on it and get Galway Bay FM, Great Books for Men, Global Boreal Forest Mapping. Follow this link:
    http://www.cafepress.com/greatbooksformen
    … and you’ll see how confusing it can be for people who happen to be unfamiliar with the endless acronyms.

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  11. Yoda says:

    Pollyanna view of humanity

    Common problem this is.
    Look at true human nature one must.

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  12. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Cill, he’s a longtime commenter. Great Books For Men. I primarily see him on Dalrock’s site, but I suspect he frequents other sites as well.

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  13. Yoda says:

    Great Books For Men he is.
    A distinct style he does have.

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  14. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Libertarianism can serve as a gateway from liberal to conservative, but I found it impossible to reconcile what the world is with what it would need to be in order for libertarianism to work (particularly with foreign policy). To stay somewhat on topic, feminism’s foreign policy (towards men) is problematic as well, making unwarranted assumptions about how men will react to changing conditions.

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    lozlozlozzzzlozzll
    you haven’t had the Great Books For Men experience?
    lozlozlozzzzlozzll

    his legend is that he exclaims major truths..and in truth he may often do that. But usually he encrypts it is bolloxspeak. I don’t know whether it’s AMOGing (you want the message you have to figure it out because I’m worth it)…I don’t know. I don’t bother with that stuff. It might just be a privacy / identity hiding practice(?) but it’s one I find tiresome and not worth the effort to penetrate.

    When he speaks clearly he usually does have good things to say.

    BUT he appears to have a cobb on over Dalrock and Deti when they speak about how things are. That’s where, again. he loses my interest. lozlozlozzzzlozzll

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  16. Cill says:

    LCATSIATYCPCSCSC

    “longtime commenter.”
    Ah. That says it all.
    Thank you, CP

    Cheers
    (signed) Cill
    (shorttime commenter)

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    “LCATSIATYCPCSCSC”
    OH!NO!WTF

    it’s loz / lol / lozl in any combination

    I pronounce you BLASPHEMERLOZLLOL

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  18. Cill says:

    Mate, Aus thrashed India in the second semi and will face NZ in the World Cup Final.
    FWIW on a NTK* basis.

    * Need To Know

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  19. Cill says:

    Quite a useful acronym, this:
    FWIWOANTKB

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  20. Cill says:

    But you must admit, I coined MSGL, from which is derived the mother of all acronyms:
    BTMSGL
    We’ll never beat that.

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  21. Cill says:

    I smile when I go to sleep at night, thinking about it.

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  22. Cill says:

    …which is what you are right now, mate. Asleep in the middle of the day
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    PPTNISS
    (Pom Productivity, Thy Name Is Spawny Sleep)

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  23. Cill says:

    PPTNISS pronounced LLitniss (“LL” as in “LLewellyn’s Dog”)

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  24. Yoda says:

    making unwarranted assumptions

    Happens to feminists often this does.
    SJWs afflicted also they are.

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  25. Yoda says:

    GBFM captured essence of modern feminist bible he did.

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  26. Yoda says:

    reconcile what the world is with what it would need to be in order for libertarianism to work

    Needs intelligent moral people in order to work it does.
    Not likely to occur this is.

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  27. jf13 says:

    re: bolloxspeak

    Is their a gbfm linguistic generator?

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  28. Cill says:

    An all-time personal record for me, 5 consecutive comments, and Yoda blithely ignores them.
    😉
    lol

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  29. Yoda says:

    What they wanted was an upgrade in the quality of men. Feminism tried to deliver that but couldn’t.

    Upgrade through disincentivization.
    Odd approach this would be.

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  30. Libertarianism sounds good, let everybody be adults and make their own choices. But as we have seen, many people make bad choices. It’s a great idealism, but not reality. I would prefer less govt. involvement in my biz, etc. smaller govt. but it’s usually because someone else colored outside the lines that these additional regulations exist. Sadly.

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  31. jf13 says:

    re: Women want to have their cake and eat it

    Moreover, they want their men to bake it, and to feed it to them.

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  32. Cill says:

    …but JF does not 😀

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  33. Yoda says:

    Yoda not into acronyms he is.
    Yodish more his style it would be.

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  34. Cill says:

    .
    “Libertarianism sounds good”

    Trouble is, it ends with “ism”. Not many good words end in “ism”. Abstract nouns are a blessing and a curse for humanity.

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  35. Cill says:

    An abstract noun is an invitation for a coup d’etat, along with metaphiers and metaphrands.
    Or an an invitation for confusion, as in “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind”.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    Spawny wasn’t sleeping, he was saving a mate from a fate worse than needing a lift to pick up his newly MOT’d car

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  37. Cill says:

    Read “The Emperor’s New Mind” by Roger Penrose.
    Blow your mind it will
    Knucklebump, Roger

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda doing acronyms, French would look
    NATO –> OTAN (roughly Organisation of the Treaty of the Atlantic of the North)
    United States –> États-Unis (States United)
    Hi speed train -> TGV Train of High Speed (Train á Grand Vitesse).
    VAT -> TVA

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  39. Cill says:

    “MOT’d” = Ministry Of Transported?

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  40. Cill says:

    Yoda BTMSGLII
    Better Than Movie Star Good Looks It Is.

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  41. Cill says:

    Pronounced Bee Tee Ems Gigli (as in Beniamino Gigli)

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  42. Cill says:

    “The Emperor’s New Mind” should be a must-read in Womyns Studies classes.
    Fail many students it would.

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  43. Cill says:

    Big Red pass she would not.

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  44. Cill says:

    Caught up with my sleep I have
    Box of birds I am
    Life a box of fluffy ducks it is
    Up with the Sparrow Fart I am
    Your heart out Yoda eat

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  45. jf13 says:

    re: JF does not

    Sez who? I would *enjoy* being fed cake. I merely have no expectation of it.

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  46. Cill says:

    Up at 12:32 p.m. Pom time I got ^^^
    1:32 a.m. New Zealand time it was

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  47. Cill says:

    “Sez who? I would *enjoy* being fed cake. I merely have no expectation of it.”
    No-no-no-no-no-no-no.
    JF does not feed the cake to his wife (or any other woman for that matter)

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  48. jf13 says:

    As redpillgirl noted, Libertarianism is idealist, meaning anti-realist. “it’s usually because someone else colored outside the lines that these additional regulations exist. Sadly.”

    But moreover, the fundamental purpose of government is to improve cooperation by regulating those people who don’t play well with others. Said another way, government is intended to protect against exploitation. Yes, it’s probably true that the strong independent types don’t “need” government protection from the unwashed masses. But the unwashed masses probably do need the government

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  49. Cill says:

    Let them bake it if they must, but not eat it.

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  50. jf13 says:

    re: feed the cake

    I do too, and I would say “all the time”, although she might say “hardly ever”.

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  51. Cill says:

    Depends what you mean by “feed the cake” 😉

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  52. Cill says:

    … in which case she would say “all the time”, although you might say “hardly ever”.

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    MOT = French carte grise (card grey)
    vehicle roadworthiness certificate

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  54. Padawan says:

    Bye for Now (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)
    The clock is coming up 5 a.m.
    Chores await in the world of men…

    I got deeds to do and promises to keep,
    Not dappled or drowsy or ready to sleep.
    Let the morning time drop all its petals on me,
    Life, I love you; all is groovy…

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  55. jf13 says:

    Off topic.
    Question: Can there possibly be any better, much less quicker, way to directly satisfy both men’s and women’s sexual strategies than to use the Apocalypse Opener?
    Answer: No. Hence, from the lack of popularity of the AO, it follows that women don’t want their sexual strategy satisfied directly.

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  56. Cill says:

    .
    A parting thought
    Have their cake and eat it – men bake it better:

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2015/03/a-damning-indictment-from-multiple-angles/

    I’m off. See ya later

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  57. jf13 says:

    Idealist woman says out loud what all women think. “I don’t want to have sex with him to keep him happy”.
    http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/519009-resentful-about-so-many-years-crappy-sex-8.html#post6234085
    What she means, of course, is that she wishes that his treating her well induced sexual desire within her. Newsflash: men wish women were that way too. But in reality-ville, the causality is opposite.

    Similarly, libertarians wish that people didn’t have to have governance to keep order.

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  58. Yoda says:

    “I don’t want to have sex with him to keep him happy”.

    Works poorly this approach does.
    Sex, not so difficult it would be.
    Problem where it is?

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  59. jf13 says:

    Answer: problem = hamster
    “Sex should flow *from* happiness, but I’m not haapppy, so there’ll be no sex.”

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  60. jf13 says:

    Badpainter said the same thing at Rollo’s, accurately characterizing women’s thinking thusly: “they want men to commit to them based on their value exclusive of sex. What that non-sexual value is and why any man would commit to that without the sexual component is beyond my ability to imagine. But is does strike me that this is what they do when accept a commitment from the Beta provider. They value everything but his sexual value, which to them doesn’t exist and doesn’t matter.”

    “I want him to love me for meee! I don’t want him to be a slave to his feelings, needing this and needing that. I want him to be a slave to MY feelings instead.”

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  61. Yoda says:

    . What that non-sexual value is and why any man would commit to that without the sexual component is beyond my ability to imagine

    A difficult sell this is.
    Old time women cultivated value other than sex they did.
    Not so true today this is.

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  62. Yoda says:

    “Sex should flow *from* happiness, but I’m not haapppy, so there’ll be no sex.”

    Eat a candy bar only when happy one does?

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  63. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    Exceedingly cute this animal indeed is.

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  64. jf13 says:

    Pika, cute attack, now!

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    Has anyone checked whether it’s April the first on the Chinese calender?

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  66. Yoda says:

    Doubt the Daily Mail you do?

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  67. jf13 says:

    re: candy bar

    “Sex is NOT like hunger!!! And even if it were you should never be so hungry as to just want to narf it down. It should be more like eating from a full course dinner when you AREN’T so hungry, a dinner paid for and prepared by someone else, from which you get to sit and choose liitle bits of everything that happens to be just right and complain about the porridge which is simultaneously too hot and too cold, like he did it deliberately just to annoy you. Sex is what you should feel like doing when you already feel good enough WITHOUT sex, and you aren’t hungry, or thirsty, or sleepy, and there’s nothing good on, and your fakebook friends aren’t posting, and you’ve just checked the kids are asleep, and it’s not that time, and it’s not *that* time [c’mon ladies, tell me you aren’t grinning just a little through your tears], …”

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  68. jf13 says:

    If wishes were plowhorses then they would, um, …

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  69. jf13 says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice if the world were such that libertarianism actually worked? Does that mean that we should try to change the world such that our preferred method of dealing with the world would work better?

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  70. Cill says:

    “Sex is what you should feel like doing when you already feel good enough WITHOUT sex”
    I wonder if hypnotism would work. Maybe no marriage license unless the bloke has passed the hypnotist test?

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  71. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    “If wishes were plowhorses then they would, um, …”

    Be marriage material?

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  72. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    “Does that mean that we should try to change the world such that our preferred method of dealing with the world would work better?”

    Sadly, the only cure for human nature is fatal.

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  73. Yoda says:

    Does that mean that we should try to change the world such that our preferred method of dealing with the world would work better?

    If a communist one is.
    Then answer yes it would be.

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  74. Yoda says:

    [c’mon ladies, tell me you aren’t grinning just a little through your tears]

    Perhaps the spinsters not.

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  75. jf13 says:

    “The more important question I see being raised by Hemingway is why, exactly, middle-aged men are so entranced with women over half their age.”
    http://www.salon.com/2015/03/26/its_worse_than_just_woody_allen_middle_age_men_younger_women_and_the_true_horror_in_mariel_hemingways_new_disclosures/
    I question whether Hemingway truly ever wondered “why, exactly”. In fact, I question whether Ms. Bussel actually wonders “why, exactly”.

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  76. Yoda says:

    I question whether Hemingway truly ever wondered “why, exactly”. In fact, I question whether Ms. Bussel actually wonders “why, exactly

    Because women they are.
    View the world this way they do.
    Men’s perspective is relevant not.

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  77. jf13 says:

    Roughly, the basis for libertarianism suffers from both a naturalistic fallacy and a fallacious appeal to nature: “From each according to his desire, to each according to his strength.” Thus, libertarianism falls far short of even bothering to pretend it wants the bestest for the mostest: it wants to secure to the strongest the ability to retain the mostest.

    In fact, the utopian hedonistic ideal would be more like “From each according to his strength, to each according to his desire.”

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  78. Yoda says:

    Protected they must be,

    In another recent example, New York Times opinion writer Judith Shulevitz described a special “safe space” at Brown University, a room with “cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies, as well as students and staff members trained to deal with trauma.”

    Why is such infantilization of grown college students necessary? Because the students couldn’t handle hearing the opinions of writer Wendy McElroy, who was speaking on campus and criticizing the concept of “rape culture.” (McElroy’s views are not that far off from those of feminist former judge Nancy Gertner, I might add.)

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  79. jf13 says:

    The more important question I see is why someone would think the expression “women over half their age” would be the best way to speak about girls less than half their age. I presume it has to do with Bussel trying to intensify half in that expression, i.e. we’re supposed to emphatically pronounce “*half*” as if it were bolded as I like to indicate via the old WordStar asterisk operator.

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  80. Yoda says:

    cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies

    Cookies good they are.
    Sammiches better it would be.

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  81. Yoda says:

    “women over half their age”

    Women like men who make twice what they do.
    Odd this is considered not.

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  82. jf13 says:

    Ah. Seek, find. Mystery solved. “I’m a LOT more experienced than women over half my age. So men my age ought to like me a LOT more.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Kramer_Bussel
    “I’m a LOT more experienced than women over half my age. So men ought to like me more.”

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  83. jf13 says:

    Was it WordStar, or Word for DOS?

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  84. Yoda says:

    This is where a homeschool setting has the advantage over a public educational system simmered in cultural Marxism. Unlike teachers, mothers are not required to pound their boys into a cultural and political mold.

    Rather than being appreciated for the future explorers, warriors and leaders they were designed to be, boys are viewed as defective little girls. Teachers want them to love reading and play nice, and no one wants to know where their hands have been. What is the real trouble with boys? Well, simply put, they are not girls.

    Boys are no longer judged by their developmental standards. We have lost sight of a very basic tenet of humanity, one that our ancestors understood since the beginning of time: girls are very different from boys. Boys with uniquely masculine strengths, once prized, are no longer valued. In fact, these traits of boyhood are considered pathological.

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  85. Poseidon says:

    “Is their a gbfm linguistic generator?”

    Yes. My rectum twelve hours after I eat at the Indian buffet down the street from the gym.

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  86. jf13 says:

    In his Idealism post, Rollo asked why more men still refuse to be more jerky to women even when they know it will work for them.
    ForgetheSky answers correctly, I think. Of course it feels *bad* to treat someone worse than you could, because it is quite literally *bad*: “This explains a reluctance to be a jerk to people in general, though; there’s something more going on if a man fears being a jerk more to women than other men. Perhaps a women’s reactions just feel like more of a black box to them – more mysterious? I suspect living in a society where the FI is dominant creates a subconscious reverence as well. It’s not like being a jerk towards an equal, it’s like being a jerk to your boss.

    If you could demonstrate to me, intellectually, that being a jerk to my boss would enhance my career, I suspect we’d find a similar difficulty in my applying it.

    Myself, I’ve found a sort of exposure therapy to be the only thing that works. Start will very mild insolence in convos, teasing, don’t smile at a girl who looks at you – just stare dead at her – things like that. Gradually learn that you tend to get a new sort of response, and even when it’s negative you don’t die or ruin your life or anything. Escalate from that.”

    Selfishness, i.e. the practice of being a jerk whenever it works, is inarguably the essence of libertarianism. “But you can be as selfish as you can be, too!” is not a great argument for one’s empowered selfishness. So too is “You’re not my boss because nobody is my boss, so I can be a jerk to you” not a great argument.

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  87. jf13 says:

    “The sense of closeness increases if the disclosures are emotional rather than factual. Personal disclosures that are too general reduce the sense of openness, thus reducing the feeling of closeness. Disclosures that are too intimate often highlight character and personality flaws, thus decreasing likeability.
    A negative response made to a genuine self-disclosure can instantly terminate a relationship.
    The veracity of information exchanged online is suspect.”
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/let-their-words-do-the-talking/201503/self-disclosures-increase-attraction

    Hence, and you heard it explicitly here, the way to attract women online is to make up nonfactual disclosures that are “just right”, neither too hot nor too cold.

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  88. Yoda says:

    So liberty for women and their sexuality — good or bad this would be?

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  89. Cill says:

    If Big Red arrived at my beach I would molester her I think. I would duck her head in the tide to shut her up. The bubbles out of her mouth would pop up like (shut the fuck up) (pop) (shut the fuck up)

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  90. Cill says:

    Then I would chuck her toy boy off the 80 foot cliff. As she watches him fall she will go:

    AWWW HAW-HAW HAW HAW HAW!
    AWWW HAW-HAW HAW HAW HAW!

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  91. jf13 says:

    re: liberty

    It is neither socially possible nor socially desirable to force men to become more jerky in order for more men to become whom more women sexually want. Thus, agreeing and amplifying the bad boy selection cannot be the best way to increase women’s liberty.

    In fact, as an inarguable tautology, we *should* work to increase the ability of women to choose whom they *ought* to choose, instead of whom they merely *want* to choose. Thus, the sole path forward is making women want to see their own desires modified externally, freed from themselves. For example by religion, or by the monogamy drugs coming soon.
    http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/05/female-viagra-will-save-monogamy-unfortunately.html

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  92. Cill says:

    When I chuck her off as well, she’ll make quite a splash. As she falls she will sing “Cry me a River”.

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  93. jf13 says:

    I *think* this is accurate.
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-brief-political-history-of-the-united-kingdom/
    UKIP self-describes as libertarian, fwiw.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party

    Propertarianism seems to be the more accurate descriptor of libertarianism, in both the US and UK.

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  94. Cill says:

    I’ll make a recording of it and send it to Fuzzy. It will become his favorite.

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  95. Yoda says:

    Andrea Dworkin involve in your fantasy you should.

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  96. Cill says:

    Fuzzy will play it instead of “Teddy Bears Picnic” whenever he looks at this:

    His therapist will recommend it as phobia therapy

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  97. Cill says:

    Big Red’s red wig would float to the surface.

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  98. Cill says:

    Big Red will take to rogering Davey Jones in his locker.

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  99. Cill says:

    Davey will be doomed to the role of victim for as long as the world holds water.

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  100. Yoda says:

    Andrea would float would she not?

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  101. Cill says:

    The sea will turn to steam.

    THE END

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  102. Cill says:

    I’d use Andrea as an inflatable. Fasten a 300 h.p. Evinrude to her rump and plow through the waves with a wake like Queen Mary’s.

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  103. Cill says:

    Fuzzy could stand on her chuff and welcome me aboard with a bosun’s whistle..

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  104. jf13 says:

    re: Evinrude

    Rule 34.

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  105. SFC Ton says:

    Anyone else craving Chinese food after reading Yoda’s link?

    The experiment in female liberty and equality as failed. At every societal level…. so to answer Yoda’s question…. all bad.

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  106. Cill says:

    Fuzzy could take her out surf-jumping like a jet ski. As she’s more round bilge than hard chine, she’d crash down in the troughs like a breaching whale

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  107. Spawny Get says:

    “she’d crash down in the troughs like a breaching whale”
    Well…duhhhh

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  108. Cill says:

    “The experiment in female liberty and equality has failed”
    Andea with a 300 h.p. Evinrude U-clamped to her rump would be sure to agree. If she doesn’t, just up the revs.

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  109. Spawny Get says:

    You don’t power the Queen of Marys with a 300hp outboard.

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  110. Spawny Get says:

    Funnier if you call them Marys, obviously

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  111. Cill says:

    Well the 330 h.p. Yamaha is the most powerful outboard. We could U-clamp one to each butt cheek and thereby double the horse. That’d make the fat lady sing…

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  112. Spawny Get says:

    Just feed ‘er beans and light the no smoking sign.

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  113. Cill says:

    Edit: 350-Horsepower 5.3 Liter 4-Stroke V8 Yamaha Outboard

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  114. Cill says:

    “Just feed ‘er beans and light the no smoking sign.”
    Well the jet boat was invented by a kiwi, so I guess it would be topical to give her jet-power. You’d have to grip her hair like reins and pull her head back to make a prow. You could name her “Chewed Mintie”, in honor of Choicy. He’d like that.

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  115. Spawny Get says:

    The daft bint wondering what men see in younger women should watch Species. Natasha Henstridge aged 21. Fresh faced, gorgeous figure, psychopathic killing machine…what’s not to like?

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    RMS Chewed Minty?
    Right Munty Shitpile

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  117. Cill says:

    “Miss Fuzzy Folly” might be a better name for a boat, come to think of it.

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  118. Spawny Get says:

    Could just make a stupendous longtail boat with an F1 engine

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  119. Spawny Get says:

    Oops Natasha just unleashed the nipple tentacles, not a personal turn on. Some jewellery can look nice, but tentacles? Nah.

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  120. Spawny Get says:

    Did I say stupendous? Given the hull, perhaps stupid-pendulous

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  121. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I’ll hold off on Teddy Bears’ Picnic for a little while if this works.

    Here is someone’s response to Big Red over her trivializing men’s suicide.

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  122. Cill says:

    Hey, look at my comment 10:06 pm as you play Big Red’s “Shut the Fuck Up”. Had me laughing, it did.

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  123. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I just had a horrible thought. While I can see bolting a V* powered outboard to you-know-who, what I can’t see happening is a Coast Guard inspection.

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  124. Cill says:

    As I say, Fuzzy, we could do it by the book. You could pipe them aboard with a Bosun’s whistle. We could be polite and helpful and point out all the sneaky places where she could store contraband. Behind the boob-flaps would be the place to start.

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  125. Farm Boy says:

    The experiment in female liberty and equality as failed. At every societal level…. so to answer Yoda’s question…. all bad.

    Yes, that is the correct answer. Bad for men. Bad for women. Bad for children.

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  126. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    Call me crazy but, I can’t see a genuine government agency issuing a license to an outboard powered fembot.
    It boggles the mind!

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  127. Farm Boy says:

    Does Andrea have the waist of her pants pulled up to cover her “anatomy”?

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  128. Cill says:

    An inboard engine might be more appropriate then. An old Ford Zephyr would be indistinguishable from Andrea, as it’s cracked in the block and fucked in the head.

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  129. SFC Ton says:

    anything that is bad for men is ultimately bad for kids…. (and I reckon women too when I have enough caring to extend that far) as men create, provide, rebuild protect in a way children can not and women have shown aptitude for

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  130. Alana says:

    Yeah that pika bear is cute. 🙂 From the name, I was expecting smthg more pikachu-like though, lol.

    I think Japanese spitzes are flipping cute too.

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  131. Alana says:

    Oops Spawny, I typed my email address wrongly in the previous comment, so u’ll have to moderate it. 🙂

    I agree, Natasha Henstridge was such a babe in Species. I was a teen when I saw it and I was like “Wow”.

    And yeah I never figured out if one should say “less than half his age” or “more than half his age” if say u’re comparing 23 to 50. I think one should technically say “less than half his age”, but I know some pple will misinterpret if one uses that wording

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  132. Alana says:

    To clarify, I was a kid when the 1st Species film came out in the cinema, I saw it in early teens on TV re-runs. Back then our parents weren’t so controlling about what we watched. I think I was anywhere from 7-10 when I watched Robocop on TV, which had some -gruesome- scenes.

    I think parent heads would explode nowadays if a TV company broadcast a show like Robocop anytime before about 11pm, when kids are still awake. :p “What about the children???!!!” lol

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  133. Alana says:

    I wish libertarianism could work, but it probably couldn’t. We’d probably be overestimating the average human being.

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  134. jf13 says:

    re: Natasha Henstridge

    I never saw Species, but watched a clip involving her trying to get pregnant. I suspect the plot is intended to support a man’s rational certainty, from experience, that any hot woman who actually seeks sex with him must be a blood sucking alien in disguise.

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  135. Farm Boy says:

    As for the “tragedy of the commons”, women have just about destroyed the good will that hey all enjoyed from men.

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  136. Spawny Get says:

    “From the name, I was expecting smthg more pikachu-like ”
    That was my suspicion too, Then when I saw it, it looks like a stuffed toy. Hence my ‘April first’ pseudo-query (I’m sure that the Chinese don’t have ‘April’)

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  137. Spawny Get says:

    ‘Species’ is not a bad film. It has a couple of great lines. They combine alien genes with human genes to make Sil (Natasha Henstridge)

    Xavier Fitch: We decided to make it female so it would be more docile and controllable.
    Preston Lennox: More docile and controllable, eh? You guys don’t get out much.

    Natasha at 21 is just gorgeous, fresh faced…beautiful. Apart from the psychopathic murdering alien aspects (problematic) she exemplifies what most men want in women physically.

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  138. Yoda says:

    Natasha at 21 is just gorgeous, fresh faced…beautiful. Apart from the psychopathic murdering alien aspects (problematic) she exemplifies what most men want in women physically.

    If men bad girls they did iike
    as women like bad boys they do
    then extra hot she would be.

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  139. jf13 says:

    re: Apart from the psychopathic murdering alien aspects

    Well, ok, maybe, even then.

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  140. Yoda says:

    Women love murders they do.
    Men also they should?

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