Hypergamy Unleashed – Impacts Part Two


In a previous post, the some of the impact to society of women’s  unrestrained hypergamy was examined.  Here are more.  There are more beyond this.  I am getting tired (and depressed) about discussing them.  Perhaps in the future, I will detail them all.

Mens Respect For Themselves

Men marry less often and later when they do.  If they do, they may have a family.  This family is not something that he can be proud of, because he controls very little of it.  The law effectively places it control with the wife.  How might it do this?  Through the threat of divorce.  And what does hypergamy have to do with this?  Well, she spent her twenties on the carousel, perhaps becoming an alpha-widow.  She married what she considered to be a chump.  And she even then might not have done it if there was not the opportunity for cash and prizes when she desires them.  Yes, hypergamy had something to do with that.

Wasted Energy on Useless Activities

The woman is spending her twenties scratching her hypergamy itch.  She might have been doing something useful during that time.  Furthermore, her age cohorts are mostly left cooling their heels, perhaps doing very little.  Wasted everything, everywhere.

General Mistrust

Men don’t trust sluts.  It starts with the question of paternity issue and rolls forward from there.  Large swaths of women insist on becoming sluts in search for the alpha tingles.  So where does this leave the relationship between men and women?

But wait, there is another special case.  When aging women finally do decide to get married, they often settle (in their minds) for a fella.  Even if the man does not fully understand the alpha fux/ beta bux dynamic, he sure does realize that she could have had him all along, but waited until now.  , “If I am as special as she says, why not earlier”?  He concludes that she is lying.  This is not good for trust.

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68 comments on “Hypergamy Unleashed – Impacts Part Two
  1. Yoda says:

    New thread over here it is.

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  2. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    I am getting sad too.
    Back to the thread. It is as Chris Rock states, “You weren’t her first choice.” That she wasn’t yours is of littl import
    It’s all about her.

    The current father cannot take pride in his children. With one phone call, they are gone and out of his life. They aren’t his.

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  3. Spawny Get says:

    Getting pretty blatant : A college sexual harassment claim, Chicago-style

    This is college, Chicago-style. It’s the tale of a university administrator, who claims she was fired when she refused to cooperate in a plot to file multiple false sexual harassment accusations against a critic of her school’s president.

    LaShondra Peebles, the former interim vice president for enrollment and student affairs at Chicago State University, filed a statement last week in federal court alleging she was pressured by the university’s president to file a false sexual harassment claim against a professor.

    Peebles said CSU President Wayne Watson wanted her to file the false accusation because the professor, Philip Beverly, ran a blog that was critical of Watson’s administration.

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  4. Farm Boy says:

    alleging she was pressured by the university’s president to file a false sexual harassment claim against a professor.

    The president probably thought that she would be the perfect weapon. And if she had cooperated, he would have been right.

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  5. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    Now that the Feds have a conspirocy to prosecute, maybe they will do a decent job of it.

    Farm Boy,
    While I can’t answer for you, what has me down is that this isn’t a game for honest players. Dishonesty is rewarded.

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  6. Spawny Get says:

    It’s been surreal on Twitter, the UK national union of students banned clapping at the conference so as not to trigger sound sensitive types. Jazz hands instead. They then, unwisely, proceeded to get into a Twitter discussion with red pill guys. Check out @SpawnySpace and look at the favourites and the conversations containing the faves and retweets.

    The sjws just have no awareness of the crap they spew.

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  7. Farm Boy says:

    You weren’t her first choice.” That she wasn’t yours is of little import
    It’s all about her.

    That is the purpose of the large wedding. To make sure that you know it is all about her.

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  8. Farm Boy says:

    The father cannot take pride in his children. With one phone call, they are gone and out of his life. They aren’t his.

    I wonder if this is as large of a reason for any for MGTOW…

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    The sjws just have no awareness of the crap they spew.

    I will get to them eventually.

    They won’t be spared.

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    So how well can a society work without trust?

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  11. Yeah, I am getting depressed too! Who all just got dumped here? Not that its about me, clearly. But maybe as i have been trying to say all along, nobody is winning in the broken smp/mmp. Even the pua’s of any duration sound burned out.

    Mmmm cookies of betrayal and regret… Yummy 😦

    Who did this? How can we make it stop????

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  12. This sucks, it doesn’t work, it can’t work long term, this is not progress. I think we can agree on that much? Perhaps we are the sacrificed generation, born into the wors biggest failed so iCal experiment ever.

    But now what???

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  13. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    The idea has to come from somewhere. We have all been eating too many of these bad tasting cookies!!! Yeeeeech!!!!
    The idea could come from you.

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  14. I will do my best fuzzie, maybe that is my fate? To try to stop the cray cray, if not for myself, for all. And actually if I could do that, none of this would have been in vain.

    I am giving it up to God. There is no other way. It’s too big for little old me to grasp or fix. This one is up to the big guns!

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  15. Maybe we have all lost sight of the true Alpha… And Omega? It’s never worked before, has it?

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  16. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    It would be east enough to find an individual solution. What ia really needed is a collective soolution.
    It’s bigger than you, or me. We won’t get a direct answer.

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  17. @ fuzzie true enough. That’s why we may as well try to sell blurry yeti/mo man/Sasquatch pics in the meantime. People gotta believe in something, yes? 😉

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  18. …and hopefully by now you guys are familiar enough w my sick dry sense of humor not to mount some kind of save bloom from herself intervention, yes?

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  19. Cill says:

    We seek only to assist you in the growing of your business, Bloom. I managed to dig out another grainy photo of Moe and wee Meddy, but unfortunately Moe is wearing clothes. Not what we want at all…

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  20. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    We love you! You love us! There is sno one else in the whole world that thought enough of me to return a bear video.
    “Those wicked American girls! They’ll take bear videos from me all night and day long but, will they ever think of posting one back? Heck, no!”

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  21. But what the h€ll was that weird pick of some mutant baby this I just saw??? Am I not traumatized enough?

    Than you Fuzzie, I truly do feel love and loved. I have discovered thru this last experience that I am an “empath.” Which like all things is good and bad. I believe in good. I like that about me. But apparently I need to protect it as well.

    I am not sure I can top light saber bear, but I will try! 🙂

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  22. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    If we are going to have a cause, we may need some music.
    Is this a little grandiose?

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  23. SFC Ton says:

    LOL…Who is winning? I am. But I also don’t hide from reality or want things that cannot be.

    To put these various failed social experiments to rest White men will have to embrace reality and act on it… wade that river of blood. Not likely to happen

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  24. Spawny Get says:

    For the LOLs, expanding on the NUS Jazz hands I mentioned last night (patriarch time)

    Eight things you hadn’t realised other people find offensive and upsetting

    (I’ve cut down the details, go read it in its full glory)

    1. Clapping your hands
    This week, Britain’s booming university mollycoddle culture soared to new and absurd heights when the NUS Women’s Conference asked delegates to stop clapping as it “triggered anxiety”. Bizarrely, top brass asked the audience to instead switch to “jazz hands”. As we processed the idea of future equalities ministers doing their best Al Jolson impersonations in a silent yet anxiety-free auditorium, social media asked the pertinent question: how will these people ever function in the real world?
    2. The Athena tennis girl poster
    The iconic erotic image that launched a generation of healthy fantasies has racked up 20 million sales since its 1979 release. Now, 26 years later, the Everyday Sexism Project has, of course, declared it “sexist”.
    3. Minecraft
    Proving if nothing else that PC madness isn’t unique to our shores, earlier this month the Turkish Family and Social Policies Ministry tabled a banning order on kids’ computer game Minecraft claiming it was “based on violence”.
    4. Using the word ‘old’
    5. Dippy the Dinosaur
    When it was announced in January that Dippy, a model of a 66-million-year-old diplodocus, was finally to be retired from the Natural History Museum, the dearly-beloved dinosaur sparked a #savedippy protest that became strangely malicious. Dippy’s replacement – a blue whale – was chosen as a “reminder of our immense environmental responsibility,” yet when some people pointed out they just preferred dinosaurs, they were labelled “climate-change deniers”.
    6. Smiling at women
    Earlier this month a study by Northeastern University, Boston, appeared to conclude that men who smile at women and behave in a warm, friendly, chivalrous manner are guilty of “benevolent sexism” that was, in its own weird way, as harmful as shouting abuse at a woman.
    7. Using the word ‘girl’
    From ‘coloured’ to ‘terrorist’, the spoken word is a minefield these days. But the BBC surpassed itself in May last year after cutting the word ‘girl’ from a documentary about the Commonwealth Games, fearing it might cause offence.
    8. Breakfast cereals
    You’d probably answer “no” to an incredulous 2013 Jezebel article “Every Noticed There Aren’t Any Female Breakfast Cereal Mascots?”

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  25. Yoda says:

    yet when some people pointed out they just preferred dinosaurs, they were labelled “climate-change deniers”.

    Kids dinosaurs they do like.
    Whales less interesting they are.

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  26. Yoda says:

    “Every Noticed There Aren’t Any Female Breakfast Cereal Mascots?”

    Associated with high carbs want they do?

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  27. Yoda says:

    how will these people ever function in the real world?

    “Subsidies” the word would be.

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  28. Yoda says:

    are guilty of “benevolent sexism

    Perhaps women this desire they should.

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  29. Yoda says:

    To put these various failed social experiments to rest White men will have to embrace reality and act on it…

    Brainwashed they are.
    To correct is why here we are.

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  30. jf13 says:

    re: Men don’t trust sluts

    Nor former sluts. Nor probable future sluts.

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  31. jf13 says:

    re: “he sure does realize that she could have had him all along, but waited until now. , “If I am as special as she says, why not earlier”? He concludes that she is lying. This is not good for trust.”

    Good precis of the air-tight reasoning of the man. I truly don’t see how any woman can possibily convince any such reasoning man that she has changed and is really truly now finally ready internally, without her being continually all day every day on her knees barefoot and weepingly servile all day every day without letup.

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  32. jf13 says:

    Congratulations on 10,000 comments six weeks ago! Then about three weeks ago, something happened …

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  33. jf13 says:

    re: He concludes that she is lying.

    The first step in rebuilding trust HAS to be her acknowledging the reality of his concerns. Any attempt at denying that she had lied would work directly against trust.

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  34. jf13 says:

    re: hypergamy + apex fallacy

    Earlier I mentioned that the apex fallacy cuts both ways for women. The apex fallacy means that a woman deludes herself that alphas are more available to her than they really are, since she is convinced there are more of them than they really are. Moreover, she is *constantly* disappointed that her current choice, which she had deluded herself could have been an alpha, really isn’t one. “You mentioned you sort of had a girlfriend once a few years ago. So, you probably have slept with dozens and dozens of sluts since then. Am I right, or am I right?”

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  35. jf13 says:

    I believe that for any woman to truly convince any beta that she has changed, it is necessary but not sufficient for her to treat him as if he were the biggest alpha. On the other hand, it would be extremely counterproductive for her to try to convince him that what she desires now, finally, after coming to her senses, is the world’s bestest beta which happens to be him.

    But that’s the exact advice that all women give all women: “I’m sorry it’s taken me an extra three hours to get ready for you, and I’m really sorry for having kept you waiting all this time (snicker), but I really am now, finally, ready! You may now escort me to the car, and put me in the car, and drive me to the restaurant, and walk me properly, tip the maitre d, and seat me properly, and order me what I don’t know I want, etc. etc. etc. Oh wait, first, I want to take a couple of pictures of us, leaving on our first date! and read my fakebook friends’ responses first, ok? You’re sure you won’t mind?”

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  36. jf13 says:

    I’ll keep trying to say this in different ways. It is NOT enough for a woman to try to convince such a man that she now, finally, realizes he is good enough for her. That’s entirely the wrong approach. What she must do is convince him that she now, finally, realizes she was totally unworthy of him all along, now and forever.

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  37. jf13 says:

    Deti is arguing the same point at Dalock’s, discussing “Most men would be fine for “being settled for”, as long as the women who were “doing the settling” were fine with that too.”

    It is NOT difficult for a woman to lower herself, to debase herself, if she really wants to. If she refuses to, then she is lying about wanting to.

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  38. jf13 says:

    As a recent graduate of The Rational Male (in fact, I moved my tassel here), it still astonishes me how in touch Rollo is, in the article Spawny linked.
    “There is a subconscious expectation on the part of Beta men who find themselves at or just past women’s Epiphany Phase, that predisposes them to believing that what they’ve become as a result of their perseverance throughout their 20’s has now come to fruition and the women who ignored them then have now matured to a point where he’s the ‘sexy’ one at last.

    Unless men have a moment of clarity or a Red Pill initiation of their own prior to this, what they don’t accept is that this expectation is a calculated conditioning of the Feminine Imperative to prepare him for women like this; women who can no longer sexually compete for the Alpha Fucks they enjoyed in their Party Years. The Feminine Imperative teaches him that he can expect a woman’s “real” sexual best from the “real” her – why else would she agree to a lifelong marriage if he weren’t the optimal choice to settle down with? Why wouldn’t she be even more sexual than in her past with the man she’s chosen to spend her life with and have children with?

    That is the message the Feminine Imperative used to subtly and indirectly imply to Betas-in-waiting.”

    Again, my advice to such a woman is to NOT merely treat the beta for whom you’re settling as if he were the biggest sexiest alpha to you. That’s not enough for him to believe you truly “get it”, nor, I say, is it enough for YOU. What you have to do is convince him you realize just how wrong things were for him, just how wrong you ARE, and that you are willing to lower yourself beneath his feet as long as he wants.

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  39. Yoda says:

    It is NOT difficult for a woman to lower herself, to debase herself, if she really wants to.

    True for modern women this is?

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  40. Yoda says:

    “I’m sorry it’s taken me an extra three hours to get ready for you, and I’m really sorry for having kept you waiting all this time (snicker), but I really am now, finally, ready!

    Expect this relation to work she does?

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  41. Yoda says:

    I believe that for any woman to truly convince any beta that she has changed,

    But change she does want?

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  42. Yoda says:

    this expectation is a calculated conditioning of the Feminine Imperative to prepare him for women like this

    How this is done I know not.
    Perhaps by lack of criticism done it is.

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  43. jf13 says:

    re: “True for modern women this is?”

    Very true. It is never difficult for anyone to actually lower themselves. It’s like gravity; it’s not at all difficult to fall into thepool water from the diving board. The only thing that can be difficult is wanting to lower yourself. And, especially for modern women with modern men, her *wanting* to abase herself is entirely meaningless. What’s important is that he sees her doing it.

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  44. jf13 says:

    I don’t think enough importance has been yet placed on the triumphalism inherent in the recent social phenomenon of Open Hypergamy. And, I contend, it is that triumphalism that ensures the quick failure of Open Hypergamy. And overblown as it may sound coming from me, I think that Rollo’s article Betas In Waiting shows that the grave for Open Hypergamy has already been dug.

    I can’t believe anyone now seriously expects a return to concealed hypergamy. So if women don’t immediately start overtly lowering themselves tremendously by *highly* rewarding men for settling for women, I don’t see how else this plays out.

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  45. Yoda says:

    the triumphalism inherent in the recent social phenomenon of Open Hypergamy

    Getting difficult to hide it is.

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  46. Yoda says:

    It is never difficult for anyone to actually lower themselves.

    Men used to it they are.
    Women not so much

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  47. jf13 says:

    re: Doing things you don’t want to do vs not getting to do the things you do want to do

    I could be wrong, but. I think most men’s major problem with women is that the men expect some kind of appreciation for the men persevering despite the men feeling like the men are not getting to do what the men want to do. It’s a very very rational expectation of men.

    Symplectically, I think most women’s major problem with men is the women think that the men should think more highly of the women for the women refusing to do things that the women do not want to do! It’s a very very irrational expectation of women.

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  48. jf13 says:

    Every amount of time, talent, and treasure a person spends in trying vainly to get some other person to want to do something that the other person will enjoy is 101% complete waste. Even if the other person eventually goes along with it, every bit of that investment is wasted on trying to motivate the person instead of doing the activity.

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  49. jf13 says:

    Imagine if you had to bribe a child with a new dvd player and some new dvds for the long car ride to go to Disney World. Every bid of that dvd money is wasted since it should have been spent on Disney World activities.

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  50. jf13 says:

    On stooping to conquer.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Stoops_to_Conquer

    I seriously see no other recourse for the modern woman to convince a good man that she really is interested in him than by debasing herself before him.

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    JF, while he seldom intersects my immediate way of life, I think Rollo is teh smartz. If I were looking to make decisions rather than view them in the rear view mirror, then I’d be reading his blog and books intently.

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  52. jf13 says:

    Beuna Vista made this comment at Rollo’s: “Men, to these women, are just creatures to be roped, dropped, branded and harnessed to the cart.”

    To which I’d add also: blindered and muzzled. Now, to a great extent I’d have to agree with the blindered part. Provided that this really is to be his life, i.e. harnessed in marriage and trudging though the daily grind, it really probably is a good thing if a bull ox cannot see escape routes and/or other females besides his one and only cow.

    But do not muzzle the ox (Deuteronomy 25:4, 1 Cor 9:9, 1 Tim 5:18). And do not support muzzling other oxen. Let him be as happy as he can be in his harness. Don’t make it *worse* for him, for God’s sake! He’ll happily die in his traces for you, if you only ensure he gets what he wants.

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  53. jf13 says:

    A quibble. “You don’t saddle a plowhorse! They’re for *working*, not *riding*.”

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  54. jf13 says:

    The theme of the manosphere this week appears to be the openness of women’s hypergamy causing men’s open distrust of women.

    I think we covered the trust issues in a big post, but I think we need to keep covering them.

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  55. Yoda says:

    The theme of the manosphere this week appears to be the openness of women’s hypergamy causing men’s open distrust of women.

    An accident this was.

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  56. SFC Ton says:

    Jf 13 pERT certain women don’t want you to die happy they want you to die when it’s convenient and in a timely manner

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  57. Farm Boy says:

    New post is up

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  58. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I broke down and read Rollo’s post. As usual, it hurt. In conclusion, American women have very much painted themselves into a corner. Now that it is all out in the open, duplicity isn’t going to work anymore.
    They are in trouble.

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  59. jf13 says:

    re: convenient and timely

    Excusez-moi for tooting my own horn, but I’ve finally completed my theory of sexual conflict, which I began to elaborate at Rollo’s. He may be interested, if nobody else. And by completed, I mean tied neatly in a nice pretty symplectic bow:

    The male sexual strategy is to maximize the number of reproducing females.
    The female sexual strategy is to maximize the number of nonreproducing males.

    This reason this formulation is so neat is that it makes clear that females do have to reproduce with *some* males.

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  60. jf13 says:

    What goes up must come down.

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