Red Pill Classroom — The Double Standard


Women enjoy complaining about the the double standard.  They claim that it is something imposed upon them by the Patriarchy.  And that because it is a double standard, it is unfair.  The reality of the situation is a bit more complex.

When it comes to marriage, men prefer chaste women, or in modern times, ones that are as chaste as possible. This due to the issue of uncertainty of the paternity of any children coming from a marriage.  A woman who has not fooled around in the past is assumed to be a good candidate to not fool around in the future. And thus a man can have greater confidence that the children she bears are his.  This is what a man wants, and sluts do not fit the bill.

Women on the other hand, value perceived quality seed highly.  The thought is that, once she does obtain that seed, she can use deception and her feminine wiles to obtain sustenance.  If she can pull this off, then in her mind she has won.  One question remains however, how to determine which man has the quality seed (hint — crowdsourcing).  Especially in situations where much is hidden and there are many unknowns.  One shortcut that might be good enough is to determine which of the men the other women are seeking.  Why not put the knowledge of other women who are seeking the exact same thing as you are to good use?  And indeed women do.  When said and done, it only takes five minutes (or less) to get what she wants.  Furthermore, it matters little to her that other women have utilized that same source of seed.  She got hers, so what else matters?  In short — these men have long sexual histories and women are attracted to them because of it, not despite it.

So what is the double standard?  Men demand chaste women for marriage, while women are more forgiving in this regard.  That is how it often expressed by women; an expression that casts them in the best light (much better than cuckolder I might say).  Because, of course, forgiveness is a virtue.  Still, in the end, we see that the double standard is actually a joint venture between men and women; it is not something created out of whole cloth by the Patriarchy.

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137 comments on “Red Pill Classroom — The Double Standard
  1. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    The more i think about it, the more that I realize that our species is not cut out for the tournament social order. Child rearing is too intensive to allow for single parenting. Having a single source for male DNA does not provide for genetic diversity. Put both of these together in a species that reproduces as slowly as ours and, it renders us weak.

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    Fuzzie,

    As long as she gets hers, she is happy.

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps that suggests why there were controls at one time.

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  4. SFC Ton says:

    We don’t need controls just better sex ed….

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  5. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    The demand for more quality from men by women is new and coincidental with feminism. It comes at a price and, so far, it’s only been men to pay it. I don’t know how it’s going to happen but, women are going wish that they hadn’t gone down this road.

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  6. Yoda says:

    It comes at a price and, so far, it’s only been men to pay it

    Children pay dearly they do.
    Credit for this feminism gets not.

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  7. Tarnished says:

    “When it comes to marriage, men prefer chaste women, or in modern times, ones that are as chaste as possible.”

    This is true of most marriage minded men (although nobody I know wanted a virgin bride). But what of eternal bachelors, or PUAs, or even just the average teen boy who isn’t thinking about marriage til 10 years from now? These guys don’t want women to wait for marriage…they desire sex, and aren’t willing to put a ring on it at the moment, if ever. Yet if you are a woman who specifically says “no sex til there’s a wedding ring” men will call you frigid, or a prude, or a cocktease. The only exception is if you’re dating a man who *also* wants to wait for marriage…then it can work out.

    So what should women be? Dateless prude or promiscuous slut? Because sometimes it seems like those are the only 2 options according to much of the manosphere. If all women are supposed to wait til after marriage to have sex, then the same would necessarily have to go for men since there’d be no partners for them outside of matrimony. Some guys would be okay with this…others would absolutely hate it.

    The entire idea of this “double standard” is a generalization, but only for a segment of the male population. Perhaps this is why it’s so difficult to talk about…

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  8. Liz says:

    I think women do flight risk calculations too.
    But it’s a more complex cost to gains algorithm and N number (within reason) is less directly connected to future fidelity for the man than the woman. Plus (as mentioned), there’s no risk the woman won’t know the offspring is hers, whereas the male takes on a much higher risk.

    I disagree that women only want the man for quick “seeding” and then they “got what they wanted”…there’s a whole lot of time when the female is VERY vulnerable during the breeding process after that she and her offspring are vulnerable. And I don’t buy that she rationalizes she’ll just pick another “beta” man with “her wiles” to be the cuck after she’s through with the “hot one”. THAT would be a huge resource drain at a time when the woman and new baby are most vulnerable.

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  9. Liz says:

    Not all men care about N count, though. Usually those men have N counts so high they don’t know how many women they’ve been with though. Case in point, Ginger:

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    If all women wait then men would have to wait…

    But it’s up to women if they want to have a high N count that is their option and they have ways had that option,but men have an option in who they ask to marry. If a woman wants to marry she should do those things which lead to marriage

    Men should never marry. Dumbest legal decision a man can make short of giving a power of attorney to the 1st crack fiend he meets

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  11. Spawny Get says:

    But it’s up to women if they want to have a high N count that is their option and they have ways had that option,but men have an option in who they ask to marry. If a woman wants to marry she should do those things which lead to marriage

    Yeah, that’s my position too. I’m not interested in pushing women back into the kitchen etc. It’s their life.

    But my preferred plan is:
    1) teach them about actions and consequences
    2) teach them that most men don’t see a high-N ex-carouseller as future mummy of his kids material.
    3) teach them that men with options don’t get together for LTR etc with single mommmies
    4) set ’em free to make their decisions
    5) make sure that they get to live with the consequences. I don’t care if Christian Grey picks some lucky ex-slut – good for her. I mean that the single mum life style is hers to finance. Don’t care if it’s grim, the produce of single mommies are killing society (boys and girls). There is nothing to be celebrated in single mommydumb.

    If women were actually concerned about women, those that fucked up their lives would advise their fellow gynocrats of how to make better decisions than they did (c.f. real men save the next guy). But women don’t do they? Because they don’t sacrifice their ego for anybody, it’s just not what women do. It’s an honour/code thing.

    Men should never marry. Dumbest legal decision a man can make short of giving a power of attorney to the 1st crack fiend he meets

    I would knucklebump you, but I like my knuckles just as they are.

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    PaulProteus speaks from the soul.

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  13. Liz says:

    “Don’t care if it’s grim, the produce of single mommies are killing society (boys and girls). There is nothing to be celebrated in single mommydumb.”

    I agree 100 percent. But not single mommy=unmarried mommy. And how’s that going to happen if men don’t marry?
    Or should the human race die out and/or continue to be raised, not only by some single mommies by all single mommies?

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  14. Liz says:

    Lol! Meant to say single mommy=unmarried mommy.

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  15. Liz says:

    And not single mommy means…oh, you know. My brain is too damned groggy right now. Coffee. Must. Chug. It.

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  16. Yoda says:

    I think women do flight risk calculations too.

    Poorly they do.
    Or perhaps they care not.
    Or perhaps care for tingles more.

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  17. SFC Ton says:

    Single mom’s in fact mean the human race is not dying out.

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  18. Liz says:

    Yoda, they do poor flight risk calculations for the same reason people take risks in other areas of their lives. Look at the economy, look at all the fat people, look at politics….it’s all the direct result of short term thinking.

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  19. SFC Ton says:

    Not pushing women back into the kitchen etc is dooming our demographic density

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  20. Sumo says:

    On a personal note, I’m perfectly content to not have any of those crazy beeyotches in my kitchen. Makes it much easier to get work done.

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  21. Tarnished says:

    Comments like this are why I like you, Sumo. 👍

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  22. Tarnished says:

    “Not all men care about N count, though.”

    Mine doesn’t. He firmly believes that what’s good for the gander is good for the goose, and both sexes ‘just need to grow the hell up about sex’ in his words. One of the many reasons I love him. 🙂

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  23. Yoda says:

    On a personal note, I’m perfectly content to not have any of those crazy beeyotches in my kitchen.

    Make sammiches they could?

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  24. Yoda says:

    “Not all men care about N count, though.”

    Mine doesn’t.

    Looking for marriage and children is he?

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  25. Yoda says:

    From Tattoine to Curisant marriage minded men about n count they do care.

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  26. Yoda says:

    Single mom’s in fact mean the human race is not dying out.

    If being a baby mama not allowed it was,
    real moms they might be.
    Better for all this situation would.

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  27. Yoda says:

    I disagree that women only want the man for quick “seeding” and then they “got what they wanted”

    Want both they do.
    Not always possible this is.
    Choose which they should?

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  28. Yoda says:

    So what should women be?

    Pleasant and non-fat starters they are.

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  29. Tarnished says:

    Actually, Yoda, that’s a good point. I have 6 male friends who are married, anywhere from 5 years to 22 years. Neither they nor their wives were virgins when they got married. I asked them if they cared about the N of their wives.

    Answers as follows:

    1. What? No, why should I? She didn’t care about mine and it’s bigger.

    2. I would have if she had a lot of partners…like 30 or something outrageous. Once you get above 10 or so, it’s like you’re trying to use sex to overcompensate.

    3. Only if she’d had more than me and bragged about it.

    4. I’d care if she consistantly did crazy sex moves for other guys but not for me. Otherwise, no.

    5. You’re reading the internet again, aren’t you? Stop it.

    6. I’d care if she’d had a kid or diseases. But 5 or 6 partners, nah. It’s cool.

    General consensus was that a bit of mileage shows experience and that she knows what to do in bed. *This is just what my friends believe. Your results may (and likely will) vary. Opinions do that.*

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  30. Tarnished says:

    And yes, that was #5’s answer. He really doesn’t care about most of the things we talk about here, and thinks most of it is nitpicking or a bad case of schadenfreude.

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  31. Liz says:

    “General consensus was that a bit of mileage shows experience and that she knows what to do in bed. *This is just what my friends believe. Your results may (and likely will) vary. Opinions do that.*

    My husband cared about N count a great, great deal. He was actually borderline pathologically jealous when we first started out…it was almost a deal breaker, it was that bad. But he was young and learned to have trust in me. I doubt it would matter as much to him if we’d met later in life if he’d been around more, but I don’t know. I’m sure it would matter SOME though (especially if the number was in the double digits, or something).

    We know all sorts of people. Most of the pilots my husband flies with are more cavalier about their wives’ or girlfriends’ prior sex lives. To the point it’s almost odd….very odd to us, anyway. One guy met his wife (a former flight attendant) as a ONS. They didn’t even exchange numbers…then, they met again on another flight, had another ONS, still didn’t exchange numbers. By the third time the met up and hit it they figured they might as well exchange numbers…and she got pregnant. My husband didn’t ask how the guy knew it was his, but…I’d say the flight risk of that one is pretty high.

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  32. Liz says:

    Just to elaborate since it isn’t clear above, I dont’ think she got pregnant the third time around, I think she eventually got pregnant…I’m not sure how long after numbers were exchanged.

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    I agree 100 percent. But not single mommy=unmarried mommy. And how’s that going to happen if men don’t marry?
    Or should the human race die out and/or continue to be raised, not only by some single mommies by all single mommies?

    As a MGTOW, I’m not joking here, best of luck with that. It’s not my problem anymore. I personally think that the future is going to get a lot worse before it has a chance to get any better. I’m not at all sure that it will get better.

    Surveillance, automated enforcement…1984 is where we’re headed.

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  34. Tarnished says:

    Exactly, Liz.
    Different things matter more to different people. My friends cared a LOT more about whether their spouse was a smoker, or an alcoholic/drank every weekend, or did recreational drugs. These traits were dealbreakers…not sex. I know I would never date anyone with these issues, just as some men here would never date a woman with more than 3 sex partners. It is what it is, and shaming other men for not believing as you do is one of the major problems I see with the manosphere as a whole.

    It’s strange to assume everyone has the same perogatives when looking for a spouse or lover, just because they share your chromosomes or genitals.

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  35. Yoda says:

    But he was young and learned to have trust in me

    “Trust” the issue is.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    “Not pushing women back into the kitchen etc is dooming our demographic density”

    I can’t be doing with pushing half the race back into the kitchen (‘back’ in as far as they ever were ONLY allowed there, which I don’t believe happened all that widely). Being a housewife is not a full time job anymore and never will be (homeschooling might be worth it). I’ll be buggered if I have to work my arse off so that a pampered Peggy Bundy type can sit eating bon-bons on my dime.

    We’re not going back to the mythologised 50s, we can only go forwards. But we can stop stomping on men just to allow women the myth of their exact equivalence to men. Vive les differences.

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  37. Yoda says:

    Tarn,

    Children they do have?

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  38. Yoda says:

    Part-time women could work.
    Home business a possiblity it is.
    Children best they are with a real mom at home she is.

    With a baby mama, children better with her working during day it would be.

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  39. Yoda says:

    it was that bad

    Or good perhaps.
    Upon perspective it does depend

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    A guy who knows the correlation between her N and divorce risk, and knows what divorce with kids means…that’s a guy who would be rightly concerned about her N. I would be in that extremely highly ludicrous hypothetical scenario that isn’t going to happen.

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  41. Yoda says:

    I’m not joking here, best of luck with that. It’s not my problem anymore. I personally think that the future is going to get a lot worse before it has a chance to get any better.

    Tingles Uber Alles

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  42. Spawny Get says:

    In case there’s doubt. Having kids does change the SAHM viability for their tender years. If I were to have kids I’d think very carefully about homeschooling, or have her or I get involved in homework to check what line of BS the state was pushing.

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    For those that might be interested, this comment is worth a gander. Nigel says some interesting stuff. He stands up well to direct questioning, unlike the liblabcon artists and the woeful greenies.

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  44. Liz says:

    “Or good perhaps.
    Upon perspective it does depend”

    Perhaps I was vague.
    Psychopathic levels of jealousy based on nothing whatsoever aren’t good for anyone. There’s no perspective where that would be beneficial.

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  45. Yoda says:

    Nigel useful in the old republic he would have been.
    A better senator than Padme or Jar Jar he would have been.

    Looks over Jar Jar great they would be.
    Articulate logical thoughts much better than Padme Nigel could.

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  46. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,

    Yes, all of them.
    Anywhere from 1 child to 3.

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  47. Yoda says:

    Yes, all of them.

    Play Russian Roulette they do.
    Bullet in the chamber one question is.
    Which bullet the other is.

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  48. Tarnished says:

    Perhaps. Perhaps not.
    Regardless, it was their decision to play, just as it was Liz’s husbands decision to play. You can’t take this ability to choose away from men or women without it turning into 1984…or worse.

    The most you can do is make sure people are informed.

    [SG – yep. anyway the correlation is statistical, not an iron rule]

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  49. Lon Spector says:

    Historically speaking, there were only 4 ways a man could “get” a woman:

    1) Arrainged marriage/Mail order bride. The woman had no choice. It was a
    business transaction. (See Filddler On The Roof.)

    2) Charm (modern)

    3) Purchase her sexual favors. (Often connected to #2.)

    4) Force himself on her. (Not a perminate way of life.)

    Is it any wonder that there are so many Eliot Rodgers’ in the making?
    *****************************************************************************************************************
    Did you ever see films where the plot line was about a woman being relucantly
    to a man’s attentions? She might be a male order bride, or someone held
    involeentarily. She is absolutely certain she will hate the experience. But the man and
    wife undergo common struggles and she eventually learns to love him.
    I saw a couple of films like that. One was titled “Something Wild.” A girl is raped
    on the way home from school, and decides to throw herself off a bridge. A man
    disuades her and brings her home. When she “recovers” she wants to leave. But he
    won’t let her. (He has his own “problems”)
    They form an odd relationship. She manages to escape, when he is out, and joyfully
    walks about the city. She returns to him. She finds him miserable and contrite.
    “Why did you come back?,” he asks. “Because you need me,” she responds. She
    later tells her mother, that the joyfull couple is going to be married and she looks at them
    like they are insane.
    Another good film was about a man (A French fur trapper) who buys a wife from
    a family. He was played by the late Oliver Reed. I forgot the name of the film.
    She is also reluctant and tries to escape. She manages to get back to her family
    and finds “you can’t go home anymore.” He takes her back. You can see her loves her
    in his own way. He is attacked by wolves, and she saves him. They live happily ever
    after.
    Should Eliot Rodgers have tried something like this?

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  50. Yoda says:

    You can’t take this ability to choose away from men or women without it turning into 1984…or worse.

    Exaggerate you do.

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  51. Tarnished says:

    Not by much.

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  52. Yoda says:

    Feed bear Molly does.
    Hibernation this does cause.

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  53. Liz says:

    Tarn: “…just as it was Liz’s husbands decision to play”

    Yep. And mine too! 😉
    (when I said it was almost a deal breaker…I was actually the one who had had enough of that)

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  54. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    I agree with Tarn. 1984 is a stretch. I don’t think it’s a day over 1938.

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  55. Yoda says:

    I don’t think it’s a day over 1938.

    The evil Patriarchy in power at that time it was?

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  56. Liz says:

    Hitler was man of the year in 1938.

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  57. Liz says:

    How many chiropractors does it take to screw on a lightbulb?

    Answer: One, but it will take ten visits.

    …always wanted to use that one…it never seems to come up 🙂

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  58. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    I was thinking about the release of Snow White by The Mouse, and his subsequent rise to power. But yeah, there was that whole spinning up of World War II as well.

    Come to think of it, that’s probably a better analogy, now that you mention it. 😉

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  59. Yoda says:

    Hitler was man of the year in 1938.

    Choose on impact Time Magazine does

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  60. jf12 says:

    Although this fact may not change anyone’s opinion, it ought to: Regardless of perception the objective measurements tell us that cads tend to have quite lower quality seed than dads, and in general almost every alpha quality (especially, dark triad) is associated with lower quality sperm. Rollo has also made this clear many times: for women sex with alphas is NOT about the “seed”, NOT about “genetic quality” at all.

    Keep in mind I’m not even talking about raising children, just spawning them. In terms of multigenational fertility, especially, in nonprehistoric times almost always the slightly feminine but libinous skinny nerd to whom most women are disattracted will have more grandchildren than any ubermasculine cad, not least because of the unsexy daughter effect.

    Sex with alphas is validational for women. Not for seed.

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  61. SFC Ton says:

    Because a man says he doesn’t care about her N count doesn’t mean he doesn’t care Tarn and I imagine you run in very progressive circles. Every man I know who has married a knoen slut has lost his standing among men but at the same time men are taught her past doesn’t impact her future. Which is a load of shit. Past performance being indicative of future performance. An N count of 5-6 is damn near to virgin as most men will find ( though if she says 5-6 it’s likely she has dropped the 0).

    Vive last difference gets you an England full of hostile foreigners. The 1950’s was very liberal time. Everything but two bits of legislation that is gutting the usa was in place by 1950

    So everyone lived in a totalitarian state before the sexual revolution and feminism?

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  62. Liz says:

    Wouldn’t it also have something to do with protection though, Jf12?
    Humans are born very wimpy by comparison to most animals, and children are vulnerable for a very long time…a woman could conceivably (heh) have four essentially helpless offspring to tend, and one in the oven. In five years time (as happened to Angela, of Angela’s ashes).

    BTW, good to see you! 🙂

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  63. Yoda says:

    for women sex with alphas is NOT about the “seed”, NOT about “genetic quality” at all.

    About perceived quality seed it is.

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  64. Yoda says:

    Ton vs. Tarn it is.

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  65. Liz says:

    “Ton vs. Tarn it is.”

    Oh, fun! Let’s think of a really controversial topic.
    Hm…Nitrogen in tires. Yeah, neah, or indifferent? 😛

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  66. Liz says:

    I once actually got into a long argument on that one…
    Took up about 10 pages, and 1000 posts on a blog.
    So it must be very very controversial indeed.

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  67. jf12 says:

    @Liz, re: “Wouldn’t it also have something to do with protection though, Jf12?”

    I don’t think so. For example, dark triad men are MUCH more likely to inflict harm than prevent harm. Before leaving there because of, um, being read by too many people, in a comment at Rollo’s I managed to show that every bit of Donal Graeme’s PSALM vectors were merely proxies for “likely to inflict violence on a woman”. Moreover, nowadays and prehistorically most people lived in communities which provided *group* protection against threats. About the only thing that a man’s individual strength was good for, in this context, was forcing individual women.

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  68. jf12 says:

    @Yoda, re: perceived quality vs real quality.

    Yes. Women also erroneously perceive cads as better dads.

    More generally, and on topic, it does in fact significantly increase a man’s perceived sexual attractiveness when a woman *believes* he is promiscuous. Bizarrely for any rationality, it increases more when she *believes* he uses a lot of sluts and doesn’t use any protection (which if true would tend to greatly decrease his fertility, btw. The same effect is stronger in women (semen allergy, e.g. (double and triple nested parentheses, sorry))). In contrast, men perceive allegedly slutty women as significantly LESS attractive but much easier.

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  69. Liz says:

    “Bizarrely for any rationality, it increases more when she *believes* he uses a lot of sluts and doesn’t use any protection”

    I must be very very abnormal.

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  70. jf12 says:

    re: abnormal

    Liz, I don’t perceive you as abnormal, but I think that statement is not viewed as a Major Award by you. I’ll try to present my view of Caveman Double Standard, and we’ll see where we disagree.

    Cave man prefers multiple young healthy nice cave women who don’t take too much effort on his part. What he’s attracted to is exactly reflected in them being the most fertilest: their ability to bear healthy children for him and to be *able* to raise them to reproductive status without much effort by him.

    Cave woman prefers that the largest mean cave man not get any ideas and bonk her on the head too hard, thereby killing her and eliminating her from the gene pool early. Also, she prefers that he not be too fertile, or else she’ll die too young in childbirth and not be able to raise her children, since she’s the one who’s going to have to anyway.

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  71. jf12 says:

    Double standard, shorter version (shortest?): Male strategy is to reproduce as much as possible with as many females as possible. Female strategy is to *prevent* as many males as possible from reproducing.

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  72. Liz says:

    Where we disagree…well, I agree it’s nice not to get one’s cranium shattered.
    I’m not sure about the infertility angle.
    Protection still makes more sense to me for choosing the “manly one” than some underlying discombobulated bio-rationale exists, telling the woman’s primal brain that “the manlier guys are actually LESS fertile! That’s why you want them!”
    So…we’ll probably just have to disagree.
    I can tell you for a fact I find random unprotected slut-riding to be a very unattractive trait. I’m not with that sort of person for a reason.

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  73. Tarnished says:

    “Ton vs Tarn it is.”

    No. I have enough crap going on in my real life. Don’t need to worry about disagreements in my online life too. Scfton has his opinions based on his life experiences…I have my opinions based on mine, and neither of us is going to convince the other of anything.

    A fantastic friend reminded me today that getting into unnecessary debates (especially online) can be frustrating for no good reason. Right now I’m very inclined to take this advice and am just gonna take a back seat for now.

    Life’s too short, even if I do believe we get numerous ones. 😉

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  74. Liz says:

    Oh, boo!
    Can you at least weigh in on the nitrogen tire angle?
    (JK) 😛

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  75. Spawny Get says:

    “More generally, and on topic
    We don’t worry about that sort of thing around here, despite a recent period of distressing relevance of comments.

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  76. Spawny Get says:

    Nitrogen in tyres (oh yes! Tyres) is good, lower coefficient of thermal expansion iirc. Not sure how the apparent contradiction to the ideal gas laws is resolved. Any physicists care to explain?

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  77. Tarnished says:

    None of the above, Liz.
    I want this car:

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  78. Spawny Get says:

    The mass in the tyres would be lower with pure nitrogen, than with air…is that it?

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  79. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn, does it have a bar and a Jacuzzi?

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  80. Spawny Get says:

    “Nitrogen tire”
    This is nobelgasphobia, nitrogen is not tired (implying lazy), it is just naturally inert. GGTOW.

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  81. Liz says:

    I think the theory is that nitrogen molecules are larger, so they maintain tire pressure longer (less likely to escape). But since air is about 80 percent nitrogen anyway….

    Cool car, Tarn!

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  82. Liz says:

    GGTOW! Lol! 🙂

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  83. Tarnished says:

    No, but it has facial recognition software that can tell when you’re tired or blinking a lot, and it’ll automatically talk to you and let you know where the nearest coffee/tea shop is. 🙂

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  84. Spawny Get says:

    I’ll wait for v2.0 then

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  85. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarn,
    What is old in made new again.

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  86. jf12 says:

    If oxygen really permeates sidewalls so wel, then it has to work so well both ways, molecular processes being so reversible an’ all, so external atmospheric oxygen must rapidly contaminate initially pure internal nitrogen at the appropriate ratios with partial pressures i.e. 21%/78% * 14.7/(14.7 + 32) = 8.5%

    So even if there is a huge effect, then you get the most stable results starting with about half air and half pure nitrogen.

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  87. SFC Ton says:

    Jf 12 as you know…. everything in the smp is a proxy for violence. Everything.

    I already covered why bad boys spell evolutionary success.

    No ton vs tarn…. hells bells she is so divorced from reality she thinks European Pagan’s and their gods would be ok with homosexuals, equal rights and what not. Hard to take someone like that for cereal

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  88. Yoda says:

    New post there would be.

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  89. Tarnished says:

    What the heck are you going on about? I’m Wiccan…my faith only was invented in the 1930s-1940s. Most of us don’t follow a specific pantheon of any particular culture. I personally believe in a Goddess and a God who created our universe through natural means, but with a deist bent as I don’t think they necessarily answer our prayers. Your assumption that I follow the deities of ancient Europe is so incorrect that I have to conclude you erroneously believed I was Druidic or Asatru.

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  90. Liz says:

    Jf12 is our physicist! 🙂
    Been a long, long time since I’ve seen that equation.

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  91. Spawny Get says:

    Damn! I had money on me being involved in the first religious war on this blog. Curses! Foiled again.

    Speaking of religion. Just finished watching the final series of ‘Borgia’ on Netflix US. Preferred it to the Showtime series ‘The Borgias’, though I liked that one too. Definitely recommended. John Doman made a better Borgia Bull than that limey bloke Jeremy Something.

    Those guys knew how to party hard.

    Do we need a row here? Nobody will be changing their minds after all.

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  92. Spawny Get says:

    I thought the supposed benefits to over rich people with fast cars and too much money, was thermally related. High speed stuff, but as I said, the ideal gas laws would contradict that. Now those gas laws are an approximation, but I thought it was a good one at RTP(?) Suggesting that the effect is minor…but lucrative?

    Good night

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  93. Tarnished says:

    No rows, just strokes…

    A man went to the park and flashed 3 little old ladies. The 1st had a stroke, the 2nd had a stroke, but the 3rd couldn’t reach. 😈

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  94. Liz says:

    Lol! Tarn.

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  95. SFC Ton says:

    My bad Mexican totally made up out of thin air. Really little difference between the two regarding divorced from reality.

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  96. Cill says:

    Tarn it was Hyde Park, London. The 3rd little old lady lacked a tub to stand on. XD

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  97. Tarnished says:

    …Mexican?
    😕

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  98. Tarnished says:

    How are my beliefs any more “divorced from reality” than yours?

    I know the Theory of Evolution is true, though we are constantly learning more details about it. I believe in reincarnation due to personal experience which I can admit might be faulty, and various blind studies carried out that show it could be a plausible occurance. I don’t think the Goddess and God did anything more than initiate the Big Bang and perhaps give the slightest of direction so that evolution would begin (abiogenesis). I think that most “miracles” aren’t actually due to anything other than serendipity, coincidence, and the rare possibility that the human mind can have a small degree of control over its immediate environment. Very little of this is outside the realm of reality as we experience it.

    Regardless, this is how I think of various faiths:

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  99. Liz says:

    Religious debate. My least favorite. Time for another joke.

    Q: How many fembots does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    Answer: The act of “screwing” in a lightbulb through inserting a hard object by the swollen end into a tight receptical is considered a sexually-suggestive act consistant with the establish definitions of sexual harassment and in violation of zero tolerance policies. Authorities have already been contacted. Rape apologist!!!

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  100. Tarnished says:

    What do you call a lesbian with long fingers?

    Well hung.

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  101. Tarnished says:

    I’m not clumsy. The wall jumps out in front of me, and the floor is a douche.

    Good girls are found in every corner of the Earth.
    Unfortunately, Earth is round.

    You want to argue online?
    That’s cool, I have CAPS LOCK.

    I love it when customers see me outside of work, like at the post office or grocery store.
    They always ask “What are you doing here?”
    I always say “Stalking you.”

    Facebook is like jail. You have a couple mug shots, sit around wasting time, write on walls, and get poked by guys you don’t know.

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  102. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    What’s the difference between a lightbulb and a pregnant woman?

    You can unscrew a lightbulb.

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  103. Tarnished says:

    BA-Dum-Tsh.🎵

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  104. Tarnished says:

    Who, me? 😇

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  105. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Then there was that embarrassing Freudian slip I made at dinner yesterday with my wife. I meant to say “Pass the salt,” but it came out as “You ruined my life, you fucking bitch.”

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  106. Tarnished says:

    I am the very picture of innocence. 🌈

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  107. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Everyone knows what a Freudian slip is, right? It’s when you meant to say one thing, but end up saying a mother.

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  108. Tarnished says:

    Well played, sir.
    Well played. 👏

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  109. Spawny Get says:

    “Who, me?”
    yes you and your fancy musical notes

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  110. Yoda says:

    Facebook is like jail. You have a couple mug shots, sit around wasting time, write on walls, and get poked by guys you don’t know.

    True this is. Bad outcomes this leads to.

    Fun fact this is:
    Darth Vader spent his free time on Facebook he did.
    Obsessed with likes he was.
    Chicks dug the mask and voice.

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  111. SFC Ton says:

    Mexican was a spell check thing. Doesn’t like Wiccan any more the I do I reckon

    As for the rest, to assine to engage but it was developed to give the a ok to a bunch of bad shit

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  112. Tarnished says:

    As you wish.

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  113. This is true of most marriage minded men (although nobody I know wanted a virgin bride). But what of eternal bachelors, or PUAs, or even just the average teen boy who isn’t thinking about marriage til 10 years from now?

    What about them? The PUAs aren’t getting any. Most “eternal bachelors” are that way because they recognize that marriage is dangerous for men. It’s only a small group of teen boys that gets laid a lot.

    We’re talking about the vast majority of men here, not the 20% (or less) that gets a lot of sex and definitely not the guys who are lying about getting laid a lot.

    Yet if you are a woman who specifically says “no sex til there’s a wedding ring” men will call you frigid, or a prude, or a cocktease.

    That’s because most women like that aren’t actually waiting for marriage. Those women were sluts with other guys, but now they’re in a desperate search to get married. The alphas aren’t interested so many of them fake inexperience and/or waiting until marriage to entrap non-alpha men.

    PMAFT has encountered a lot of these “born again virgin” sluts, and he talks about them on his blog. They always end up putting out for him.

    So what should women be? Dateless prude or promiscuous slut? Because sometimes it seems like those are the only 2 options according to much of the manosphere. If all women are supposed to wait til after marriage to have sex, then the same would necessarily have to go for men since there’d be no partners for them outside of matrimony.

    The manuresphere is full of lies so that’s why this doesn’t make sense. Here’s the problem. The median number of sex partners for a woman is much higher than the median number of sex partners for a man. (Notice I said median not mean or average. Median is not the same as average.) Anything that forces equalization like waiting until marriage benefits most men. This is why alphas and women hate it.

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  114. Spawny Get says:

    I enjoyed reading PMAFT’s tales of his two born again virgin types being his lovers simultaneously. It just showcased the churchianity phenomenon of Sunday Morning slut meets perfectly.

    Nobody tells the truth, the questions are usually slanted to get the answer that the researchers ideologues want, who then incompetently process the data and pretty much make up the results they want to see anyway. Even if they don’t then other ideologues ‘reference’ their results, but then say what they want to say even if the original paper doesn’t back it. The social sciences are just feminised lab coat dress up for idiots, mentals and ideologues.

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  115. Liz says:

    PMAFT? Acronym help please. 🙂

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  116. Liz says:

    Thanks Yoda! 🙂

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  117. Yoda says:

    Nobody tells the truth, the questions are usually slanted to get the answer that the researchers ideologues want, who then incompetently process the data and pretty much make up the results they want to see anyway.

    Useful this might be,

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/you-cant-touch-this/

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  118. Spawny Get says:

    An uplifting musical interdude

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  119. Yoda says:

    Thanks Yoda!

    Yoda knows many things he does.
    World listen they should.

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2015/02/27/wisdom-of-the-ages/

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  120. Spawny Get says:

    PMAFT’s posts on his experiences in Sunday Morning Nightclubs

    And the start of the pMolly saga. One of the born again virgins called ‘Molly’, but for the purposes of disambiguation I think pMolly is the way to go…

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  121. Cill says:

    PMAFT = “Pro Male Anti Feminist Tech”

    It’s like the towns that don’t bother with signs to give the names of streets. If the locals don’t need signs, why should anyone else? When visitors arrive in town they look for the street signs. When they don’t find them, they:
    1. Ask someone for directions – which is a pain in the ass when you want to see max within min time
    2. Drive on. There are thousands more towns to see, and the ones that bother to put up signs are likely to be more user-easy across the board.

    By signs I don’t mean tedious lists of acronyms. I mean “Pro Male Anti Feminist Tech” (unless you want your convo to remain local – which is fair enough).

    I must confess to acronym fatigue. I can no longer be bothered with searching or inquiring re acronyms. I take choice #2 and pass over the comments containing them, which is fair enough too.

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  122. Cill says:

    Edit “I take choice #2 and pass over the comments containing them”

    “I take choice #2 and pass over the comments containing an unfamiliar acronym.”

    I know enough of them already.

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  123. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    You overlooked the acronyms that have more than one meaning. An old roomate tried to look up Northern California Golf Association and was asked for a password when he found it on the internet. He had found National Corn Growers Association. Both are NCGA.

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  124. Cill says:

    Fuzzie, “MGTOW” itself conflicts with “Maximum Gross Takeoff Weight”

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  125. Cill says:

    Haahaha!
    I just gave myself an idea for a post ^^

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  126. Spawny Get says:

    I might know where you’re going to go…because it occurs to me that there’re laughs to be had. Go ahead, big boy, make my day

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  127. Cill says:

    Very well. I shall apply my craggy cranium to the task. A bit of help here and there would always be welcome, of course, especially from the man with the MSGL 😀

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  128. Spawny Get says:

    MSGL – genius! just think how much typing that’ll save everyone. Me, myself being too modest to often mention my Move Star Good Looks.

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  129. Cill says:

    Acronyms:

    It reminds me of when I was a member of Coastguard and putting in calls like:

    “CC, Pacific CC, DR, O” (Calling Coastguard, Pacific calling Coastguard, do you read, over)
    “CC TO Pacific, receiving you loud and clear. What is your situation, over”.
    “Pacific TO CC, MSIFUOSOTR, O” (Pacific to Coastguard, my situation is fucked up on scotch on the rocks, over)

    They were mates and already knew I had settled down for the night in a bay. You simply can’t stop the banter between Kiwis. The higher powers turned a blind eye deaf ear to it.

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  130. I enjoyed reading PMAFT’s tales of his two born again virgin types being his lovers simultaneously. It just showcased the churchianity phenomenon of Sunday Morning slut meets perfectly.

    I also recommend reading about PMAFT’s experience with a middle eastern slut (I think she was middle eastern) who tried to pull something similar to the born again virgin types. The middle eastern slut used her culture instead of religion, but it was all the same. It just shows that women eventually all try to run the same scam with some differences in minor details.

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  131. Spawny Get says:

    Thanks for the reminder
    She’s Conservative Because She’s “Ethnic”

    My current girlfriend, Leila, has brought this to a new level. She has tried to pull this “being a conservative con”, but the dimension she adds is that since her Persian ancestors were from a conservative culture she must be conservative by association. Simply put, Leila is trying to convince me that she’s conservative because she’s “ethnic”. Leila doesn’t dress conservatively, doesn’t lead a religious lifestyle, puts out immediately, and all around doesn’t lead a conservative lifestyle. (I have also met her parents who aren’t conservative either.) Yet, she expects me to believe she’s conservative only because she’s Persian. On top of this Leila is from Los Angeles and more than anything else is a creature of L.A.

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  132. Yoda says:

    but it was all the same. It just shows that women eventually all try to run the same scam with some differences in minor details.

    Shows that some know they do.
    Men like sluts not.
    For marriage that would be.

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