You Can’t Touch This

Previously it was suggested that new psychological research address areas related to females that might prove to be embarrassing (or at least a bit deflating) to women in general.  How did this sorry state of affairs arise?

The modern watershed moment occurred in 2005 when then Harvard University President Lawrence Summers suggested in a speech that there might be innate differences between the genders with respect to intellectual development; and that research in this area might prove to be fruitful.  A firestorm of controversy broke out, with professor Nancy Hopkins of MIT at the center.  From her account, listening to Summer’s suggestions caused a strong response in her.  “I felt I was going to be sick” she stated.  Columnist Jonah Goldberg even suggested that she had the vapors.

Lawrence Summers was quickly gone from Harvard.  At the time of his hiring, he was considered to be the ideal candidate for that position.  A former Treasury Secretary under President Clinton, he was universally hailed as a brilliant economist.  As President of the Premier US University, it was the perfect marriage.

Many people assume that universities are institutions oriented toward teaching.  This they are not.  Teaching is secondary (if that).  Universities are research institutions.  This is made clear to professors (and the world at large) though hiring and promotion decisions.  This research focus is justified by the idea that the pursuit of knowledge benefits all (thus the public funding for most).  At the bedrock of this is the scientific method (which is dispassionate and apolitical).  Further more, professors have “academic freedom” in which they can pursue new knowledge without outside interference,  The justification for such is that some lines of inquiry may prove to be unpopular, and the pursuit of pure knowledge requires protection.

Once again, what is it that Lawrence Summers suggested? And what was the result? And did this happen at the top US University?  And what is the logical conclusion?

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  1. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    This may be the crowning achievement in feminism’s abuse of power. He didn’t deserve to be driven out of his job for having a disagreement with the fembots. They proceeded to make an example of him to intimidate others.

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  2. Tarnished says:

    “Summers also tagged, as the leading cause of women’s scarcity in the hard sciences, the demanding, 80-hour-a-week nature of such careers and the unwillingness of many women with children to make the necessary sacrifices.”

    Always thought this had a huge part to play in the smaller amount of women in time-guzzling jobs. Why is is “sexist” to suggest that the female of our species tends to desire children/family more than the male? And how exactly would we be able to make all jobs more flexible to the point where you could both be a good parent + have a 60-80 hour work week?

    Honestly, it sounds like people believe they can have it all when this is rarely the case for either men or women.

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    Why is is “sexist” to suggest that the female of our species tends to desire children/family more than the male?

    Because that is not what feminists want women to do.

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  4. molly says:

    “I felt I was going to be sick”
    Coz she’s afraid of Truth. Male brains better. More objective.
    Ergo better at Research inter alia


  5. Spawny Get says:

    Anonymous Conservative says the sickness might well be real. These types have hypersensitive, underdeveloped amygdala. Bad think causes it to crash and cause genuine pain.

    What the hell such amygdala damaged types, who can’t handle contrary thought, are doing in research? (Outside of a cage) I don’t know.

    I keep linking to his books and website on ‘the books are free days’. Vox Day has talked about his theories.


  6. Farm Boy says:

    Anonymous Conservative says the sickness might well be real. These types have hypersensitive, underdeveloped amygdala.

    Is this a modern sickness? Did the people of the olden days have it?


  7. Spawny Get says:

    I doubt that an inability to recognise reality and deal with it was a survival trait in days of yore. Maybe it’s worse now because it’s not corrected hard and early by the unfriendly day to day of olden days’ peasant life. In these more ‘enlightened’ times, it is instead incubated through school life (particularly girls’) and then allowed to fester through the carousel years…delivering them to the wall capable only of herding cats and munching meds.


  8. Yoda says:

    “Reality early, reality often” Jedis do teach.


  9. Yoda says:

    Too much self-esteem training Anakin did have.
    Clouded his judgement it did.
    Price all pay we do.


  10. Yoda says:

    munching meds

    Munch crisps.
    Smoke fags.
    Watch Tele.


  11. Yoda says:

    Today’s neuroscientists are using new technologies to unwittingly perpetuate stereotypes.

    Terrible offense this is.
    Cut off their money we should.

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  12. Yoda says:

    Everything in the brain is a combination of nature and nurture.

    True this is.
    Innate differences still there they are.
    Differences they do make.

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  13. Yoda says:

    Challenge Ms. Hughes to debate here I do.
    Little green men they bite not.


  14. Yoda says:

    College one must have.
    Improves “intellect” it does.
    Good thing this might be not.


  15. Yoda says:

    Howard Dean, a former Presidential Candidate he is.
    Chairman of Democratic Party he was.
    Says this he does,

    Howard Dean: This is a particular problem for Scott Walker which has not been an issue yet, but it will. Scott Walker, were he to become president, would be the first president in many generations who did not have a college degree. So the issue here is not just the issue of dancing around the question of evolution for political reasons, the issue is, how well educated is this guy?

    Joe Scarborough: Are you serious?
    HowardDean: I’m absolutely serious.
    JS: Are you serious?
    Donny Deutsch: He didn’t finish his senior year so he didn’t get all the stuff.
    JS: Because he didn’t get his degree?
    HD: I think a lot of people are going to be worried about this.
    JS: Do you worry about people who don’t finish college?
    HD: I worry about people not knowing much about the world and not knowing much about science.
    JS: Let’s name the people who didn’t finish college and who have changed this world. Did Bill Gates finish college?
    HD: Bill Gates is a little different. Nobody is accusing Scott Walker of having the intellect of Bill Gates.
    JS: Well nobody is accusing Scott Walker of being dumb because he didn’t finish college except you.
    HD: I didn’t say dumb. I said unknowledgeable. […]
    Willie Geist: And how do you know he’s unknowledgeable? He’s knowledgeable about what goes on in his state.
    JS: And what the hell does that have to do with him answering the question the way he did, or were you just taking a cheap shot?
    HD: Because evolution is a widely accepted scientific construct, and people who don’t believe in evolution either do it for hard right religious reasons or because they don’t know anything.


  16. Yoda says:

    Some of us knew forty years ago that feminism would bring trouble to society but if we voiced our concerns we were accused of misogyny. A good example of the damage this wretched movement has done is described by Mallory Millett (the sister of feminist writer Kate Millett), in these words:

    I’ve known women who fell for this creed in their youth who now, in their fifties and sixties, cry themselves to sleep decades of countless nights grieving for the children they’ll never have and the ones they coldly murdered because they were protecting the empty loveless futures they now live with no way of going back. “Where are my children? Where are my grandchildren?” they cry to me.

    “Your sister’s books destroyed my sister’s life!” I’ve heard numerous times. “She was happily married with four kids and after she read those books, walked out on a bewildered man and didn’t look back.” The man fell into despairing rack and ruin. The children were stunted, set off their tracks, deeply harmed; the family profoundly dislocated and there was “no putting Humpty-Dumpty together again.”

    Difficult to counter this is.
    Commenters countered when tried to change subject they did.
    Look – witches from the Middle Ages over yonder there are.

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  17. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Feminists, in supporting the mattress story, are going suffer a loss of creibility. Keep yout fingers crossed, it may be enough to take down rape culture with it.

    Spawny Get,
    That story from the Conservative Woman should be linked far and wide.

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  18. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    In the “At home” link, I always thought this was situation normal.

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  19. Farm Boy says:

    As a programming note, I do not expect to post on the weekends. I intend to post mostly on weekdays from now on. Probably my next post will be early Monday morning.


  20. Farm Boy says:


    There is lots of good fodder there. One might be able to write posts for days related to that content.

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  21. Farm Boy says:

    Let’s start again with the more honest version. You haven’t been in relationships with ‘bad boys’. You’ve been in relationships with adult men who have chosen to abuse you emotionally, physically and financially.

    Yes, you chose them. And you liked it.

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  22. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I just had a wicked thought. There have to be a lot of guys out there “plate spinning”. When they can only take out one girl on Valentine’s Day, the rest are going to be sitting at home turning red with steam coming out their ears.

    Ithink that it would be a good thing for bachelors to boycott Valentine’s Day.

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  23. Tarnished says:

    Hey everyone!

    Happy 24 Hours-Before-Chocolate-Is-50%-Off Day


    Crap-That’s-A-Lot-Of-Dead-Flowers-What-The-Fucks-The-Point Day.

    Also known as the day when happily single/casual relationship people laugh at everyone who’s running around trying to fulfill the stupidity of a Hallmark Holiday.

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  24. Spawny Get says:

    So now you’re St ValenScrooge?


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  25. Tarnished says:

    I’m keeping that name, fyi. 😉

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  26. Tarnished says:

    Sorry, but Valentines Day serves no purpose other than to appeal to rampant consumerism and materialistic tendencies. If you have a “valentine” aka someone you love, guess what? Showing you love them can happen year round…you don’t ever have to wait to buy them little candies to slip in their pockets to find later, or a plant (preferably alive, dead ones are a waste and quite messy) to brighten up their living room. And dinner…oh, the Valentines Day dinners. These are a special sore spot with me. The restaurants figured out that if you have romantic music playing, offer heart shaped desserts, and throw a few candles on the table you can successfully charge 15-40% more for the same meal. Because hey! It’s Valentines Day!

    My lover and I are going to celebrate the way it’s meant to be…meet at my apartment after work, order some pizza, play Mass Effect, and share a box of chocolates. 😀

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  27. Yoda says:

    Another male supplication day.
    Many of these there are.


  28. Yoda says:

    Many mothers/wives not deserving of reward they are.


  29. Yoda says:

    Lump of coal perhaps.


  30. Yoda says:

    Boost to corn growers this holiday is.


  31. Sumo says:

    I’ve always thought of this “holiday” as “The Day that Physicians Everywhere Develop Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from Writing Antibiotic Prescriptions Eve”.

    I realize that’s a bit of a mouthful, so I usually just shorten it to VD. Pretty much means the same thing.

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  32. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Thanks for the link to the Other McCain. I needed to be reminded of how hateful Radfems are. It is hard to see how feminism got as far as it has while embracing these sickos..

    Having pizza at home with your sweetie is a godd workaround to the commercialization of this minor holiday.
    When I was a kid, it was about trading handmade cards that we made in grade school.

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  33. Liz says:

    But imagine the impact on our economy if we shrugged off all of those pointless holidays. Bakeries, flower shops, jewelry and chocolate “providers” (buyers, sellers, producers, distributers and endorsers) depend on this stuff. These are multi, multi billion dollar industries. We need our bread and circuses, people.

    What ‘special days’ make sense, in the broad scheme of things, really? The birthday. The day we hurt our mother and did absolutely nothing useful for society. Why should we celebrate that?

    Anyway, I made chocolate chip scones this morning, and gave my man a card. He gave me a box of chocolates and card. Done. 🙂

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    one common criticism of films about male-female relationships is that they’re written by sex-obsessed men who can’t write female characters. Fifty Shades of Grey flips the script completely. Here you have a sex-obsessed female writer who can’t write men

    That is pretty pathetic. Men are easy to write.


  35. Farm Boy says:

    In the context of these two works, the word “submission” takes on very different meanings and plays out in opposite ways. On the one hand, the Bible lays out a pattern of submission built around a permanent relationship—a marriage—where the wife submits fully and unconditionally to her husband, who in equal turn loves his wife more than he loves himself. There is balance and selflessness.

    “Fifty Shades” is built around a temporary relationship, with no promises for the future or stability. The woman in this relationship is also called to fully submit; more than honoring her partner, she is to allow him complete control over every aspect of her life and body In return, she receives a partner focused on his own gratification. Both relationships start with signing a legal contract: one a marriage license and the other a legal non-disclosure. After that, they wildly diverge.

    Which one on the surface would seem more appealing to women?
    Which one actually gets them hot to trot?


  36. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps all of us men should dress like cavemen and walk around swinging baseball bats (not cricket ones). That will get the women going.

    Where did Moe go?


  37. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Moehau Man may be starting up a school to teach precisely that.

    Farm Boy,
    With contraception, women are at liberty to pursue short term relationships. This hasn’t worked all that well and it may be treated as being counterproductive socially.


  38. Farm Boy says:

    Over at Dalrock’s, commenter PhillyAstro said the following,

    I just saw a truck commercial showing two photos to a panel of women. One photo had a guy in front of a large pickup truck and the other had a guy in front of a dependable sedan. Of course, all the women said they’d rather be with the guy in front of the pickup truck. The last woman’s quote was, “The first guy (sedan) looks like the guy who your Mom wants you to marry. The second guy is the one you leave him for (pickup truck).” Also, they superimposed a picture of the same guy in each photo.

    I suppose that I should buy a pickup truck. I need it to haul my Honda Rancher 4×4 anyway.

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  39. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    I don’t know what to think any more. I have tried doing things along those lines and it gets to be like apuppy chasing his own tail.


  40. Spawny Get says:

    “Farm Boy,
    With contraception, women are at liberty to pursue short term relationships. This hasn’t worked all that well and it may be treated as being counterproductive socially.”

    Not a bad attempt at a joke, but…Contraception is counterreproductive. Just saying.


  41. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    It does seem as if we are rehashing old issues. That or I am running short on inspiration.


  42. Spawny Get says:

    it may well be that the red pill has no fresh horrors left for you. Merely refinements, clarifications and handy examples of some points. It may be, my fine furry friend, that you have taken and digested the red pill.

    You’ve come a long way, friend. Well done. Now you can start deciding where you want to try to go with your life. And what risks you might be taking.


  43. Liz says:

    Minor quibble with one part of Swithy’s 50 Shades link:
    “He tracks her movements, ignores her desires about her possessions, replacing her car with one he prefers, and becomes increasingly angry when she does not listen to him.”

    Mr Gray’s “replacement” of old stuff with new stuff, “forcing her” to “submit” to lots and lots of largess was a fundamental aspect of the plot line. If he’d arbitrarily taken her stuff and replaced it with an item of inferior quality (or never replaced it at all), it would have been a different story, and probably sold about 100 e-books instead of 100 million.

    “Oh, Anastasia, my little dumpling, you deserve the best…because you’re so very plain and impossibly stupid…but also strong and independent, which I admire so…I will tame you by tying you down and forcing you to take Prada, and very expensive cars/computers/and…anything else I can think of. I know I have to force you because you are so so very cool and independent you’ll resist me all the way…I know what you require, my little Anastasia.”

    Make no mistake, Anastasia IS a “strong independent woman” in the minds of the hormonally- lobotomized women who read this shite and actually like it. Rather than simply accepting largess, she has it forced upon her, afterall.

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  44. Tarnished says:

    I wouldn’t say female contraceptives are the problem…after all, married couples use them too. I imagine it’s kinda unsexy to need a condom on your wedding night, lol. And while a tubaligation or vasectomy is definitely a choice for couples, these options are more permanent than not. Heck, unless it’s medically necessary, I can’t even get a tubaligation till I’m over 35. Doctors just won’t do it.

    The issues as I see them are not birth control, short term relationships, the natural differences between the sexes, or even sex. It’s the fact that the past few generations have not been taught the true meaning of respect.

    Respect for oneself.
    Respect for your mate.
    Respect for your friends, and lovers, and parents. This is no longer a core aspect of our communities, and it shows.


  45. Spawny Get says:

    she can’t be accused of being a gold diggin’ ho because she’s ‘forced’. Plausible deniability…chick crack (NACALT)

    Don’t want to be a Debbie Downer, but the film you’re so ‘anxious’ to see is getting a regular pounding (nope! in a bad way) in the press.

    Not quite as bad as Law’n’Order SVU’s gamergate episode which took all the ammunition provided by the anti-GG meedja whores and uses it to paint all gamers are vile shites. Nice job SJWeasels, nice job. Even Literally Who and Literally Wu are both whining about, it seems.


  46. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn, snot just respect. I don’t think that the young, particularly the estrogen afflicted, are not raised to reason. Feelings uber alles.

    Rizzle covers it here


  47. Liz says:

    “Don’t want to be a Debbie Downer, but the film you’re so ‘anxious’ to see is getting a regular pounding (nope! in a bad way) in the press.”

    I’m glad the reviews are bad. From what I’ve read, it doesn’t help that the costars have no chemistry whatsoever.
    If one is going to watch flotsam and loathsome go at it for the cameras, at least THEY THEMSELVES should like each other. Makes it .01 percent more easy to suspend one’s disbelief for the story line anyway.

    Did you ever see the Secretary? That was a more cerebral film in the genre, and I did like that one…quite a lot, actually. And they did end up married, but unlike Flotsam and Loathsome in the 50 Shades book, I think their story was very likely to end up ‘happily ever after’.


  48. Liz says:

    Tarn: “I wouldn’t say female contraceptives are the problem…after all, married couples use them too. I imagine it’s kinda unsexy to need a condom on your wedding night, lol. And while a tubaligation or vasectomy is definitely a choice for couples, these options are more permanent than not. Heck, unless it’s medically necessary, I can’t even get a tubaligation till I’m over 35. Doctors just won’t do it.”

    Our life would be horrible without birth control. It would be like something out of Monty Python with the Catholics…I get pregnant at the drop of a hat (or did, at any rate). And there isn’t so much sex with pregnancies and babies and toddlers, life becomes like living in a daycare center. That said, I do think hormonal birth control and the widespread use of oral contraception has really, really fueled the crazy. Hormones have huge effects on people…their personalities, physically, everything, and the doctors hand them out like candy, not only for birth control but menstral regulation and so forth. There’s no acknowledgement of the truly awful effects this medication can have on people.


  49. Yoda says:

    Did you ever see the Secretary?

    In 50 Shades of Gray Bear I did.
    Light Saber remained holstered it did.


  50. Liz says:

    lol Yoda. 🙂

    Just read this one and thought I’d share:
    “Ever notice that cartoonists are described as “controversial” but the people who shoot them aren’t?

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  51. Tarnished says:


    You bring up a good point. While I don’t need any, I’m very grateful that birth control/hormonal regulators are available for those who’d be miserable or forced into parenthood without them. (Come on, male pill!)

    Female Anatomy Talk
    I do wonder why it is that so very many girls and women have menstrual problems though. From an evolutionary perspective, it’s just nonsensical. What on earth would genetically select for a span of time when a female is vomiting, has migraines, mood swings, bleeds profusely, is nauseous, retains water, and is just generally lethargic? Without “birth control” my mother, paternal aunt, and sisters would suffer from all these complaints for 1/4 of every month…it’s crazy! How much of this do you, as a nurse, think is psychosomatic? Have these symptoms simply become so mentally ingrained as being cycle-related in our culture that it’s assumed all women will have them? I tend to think this theory is at least partially true, similar to how society still says a woman bleeds/is in pain when she shares her virginity.

    What say you?


  52. Tarnished says:


    Love it! And yes, it’s true…our past few generations really got the short end of the stick when it comes to being taught how to really function in civilization. 😦


  53. Liz says:

    I don’t think it’s psychosomatic, Tarn. I’ve actually been told “it’s all in your head” a number of times when I was on the pill. Think of the impact adolescence has on the brain and body…that’s hormonal. For me, the pill actually does the opposite of what it does for your family…it gives me all those awful symptoms every day of the month, without a break. Plus significant depression. I’d probably be dead if I stayed on them, I’d have “offed” myself long ago. I know of a gyn who refused to take progesterone, and took only estrogen…even though she knew that eventually this leads to endometrial hyperplasia and hysterectomy. She took the hysterectomy over the depression progesterone gave her.

    I don’t know why women have such high maintenance equipment, but we definitely do. Even childbirth…think about that process and how “unnatural” it seems. Yes, in the old days women might have squatted in the field to give birth but a great many of them died in childbirth too. For that matter, even now about one in three pregnancies are lost, for “natural” reasons.


  54. Liz says:

    Consider that (this is a well documented fact, to scoffers) pregnancy hormones actually make women stupid. Any woman who has experienced a complete gestational pregnancy and thinks this is erroneous likely either 1)Doesn’t know herself very well or 2) Doesn’t have many tasks to perform that are dependent on her intelligence.
    My husband recently listened to a podcast by a female physician who noted this phenomenon in herself and decided to do a comparison study on male and female brains. They are indeed, very different.

    But what biological advantage does stupidity bring…especially at a time when fast thinking would be especially beneficial? I can’t think of anything on the individual level. The answer must be social (the woman becomes disadvantaged and especially dependent during this timeframe of greatest need).


  55. Yoda says:

    I don’t know why women have such high maintenance equipment

    True cause of feminism this is.
    Not penis envy — but this.


  56. Spawny Get says:

    Liz, on a level of ‘bloke down the pub told me’…women’s brains shrink during pregnancy in order to protect them from swelling / high blood pressure at birthy-fun-party-time…kind of thing…ish…something like that…anecdotally.

    Don’t know if it comes back (seriously, I don’t know), you might know that bit but I suspect that post-partum you’re kept with too little sleep to feel your best anyway, so that kind of muddies the water(s)


  57. Yoda says:

    decided to do a comparison study on male and female brains. They are indeed, very different.

    A post about this somebody should write.

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