Scheme Early, Scheme Often


What do modern young girls have planned for their future?  It would seem that some them have schemes in place early.  From this post at Dalrock’s,

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/02/07/2014-never-married-data/

comes this comment from Dalrock himself,

My wife has taught at private Christian schools. Her jr. high aged girls were shocked when she told them she had been married for almost 20 years. Their response: “To the same man?” These same girls talked freely about their “starter husbands”

One might invoke the children’s activity of “what is wrong with this picture”?  A good bit, I would think.

First of all, since this is a Christian school, how is that these girls are plotting divorces even before marrying?  The bible clear on marriage.  Perhaps these girls got such ideas from their primary role model, their mother.

As a second matter, there is the question of the vows of marriage.  Apparently these are meaningless to young girls, who probably expect to get away with all sorts of misdeeds.  After all, they are girls, and they are morally superior, more valuable, and just outright more special.  Whose fault might this situation be (parents, society, feminism)?  And more importantly, how will this “anything I do is AOK” approach work out for them in the long run?

Thirdly, the girls are brazenly open about their less than moral plans to the teacher in a Christian school.  The reader is left to ponder the implications of this.

Finally, there is the issue of the starter husband.  Have these girls considered the morality of this?  How might they be planning to use their starter husband?  A couple of scenarios appear below.

Perhaps the starter husband is there to provide children and future financial support for those children.  After a divorce when she is still quite young, she rides the carousel.  Call this the Jenny Erikson option.

Or perhaps he is there to provide general financial support while she attends university and is establishing her career.  And as her time with her husband nears the end, she is looking to trade-up.

There are other scenarios.  Readers can chime in.  But in any scenario, the scheme is highly exploitive.  Yet the concept is discussed openly with no shame.

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90 comments on “Scheme Early, Scheme Often
  1. tamerlame says:

    Christianity is a dead religion. I have talked to Christians protesting against gay marriage. When I told them that marriage was killed by no fault divorce they go. “Eh?!!” It is like they can’t even compute what I am saying.

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  2. Cill says:

    Would you blokes agree to be best man at a friend’s wedding?

    I don’t know why, but I seem to be thought of as a best man. I’ve only once declined to be a best man, and it cost me a friend for life. Otherwise I haven’t had the heart to turn down a “would you be my best man” request.

    The bigger the wedding, the more awkward I feel in the role. All this lavish expense, and likely as not it will all be bust up and bitter within 5 years. And more likely than not, the blushing bride will be the one who does the busting up.

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  3. Liz says:

    “Thirdly, the girls are brazenly open about their less than moral plans to the teacher in a Christian school. The reader is left to ponder the implications of this.”

    That is disturbing in the extreme. It reminds me of a friend who taught in highschool years ago, and was pregnant. The students asked her if she knew who the father was. But, that was a bad school, not a Christian school, and half of the class was either pregnant or had a child.

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  4. Liz says:

    My husband’s sister did mention something similar, back in the day, though. She said she didn’t intend to be faithful to (whomever she married, she had no one in mind). I thought that was very very odd at the time…why marry? But she ended up marrying pretty late in life to the person who was finally crazy enough to sign the papers…and blew up to about 300 pounds after that. She’s totally faithful. Slim pickins makes it so.

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  5. Yoda says:

    blew up to about 300 pounds after that. She’s totally faithful. Slim pickins makes it so.

    Slim pickins she was not.

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  6. Yoda says:

    Christianity is a dead religion.

    Basic morality dead also it appears.

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  7. Yoda says:

    All this lavish expense, and likely as not it will all be bust up and bitter within 5 years

    Party for her it is.
    Always worth it she is.

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  8. Yoda says:

    I thought that was very very odd at the time…why marry?

    Prestige and resources she gets.

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  9. Cill says:

    A lawyer told me “In the end a contract is as good as the parties to it”. He also said most of mercantile law works on trust. For the most part, the trust works very well.

    Marriage too works on trust. The trust gets broken as a matter of course, and it’s usually women who do the breaking. Marriage is a fundamentally failed contract. Feminism has made it so.

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  10. Yoda says:

    And more likely than not, the blushing bride will be the one who does the busting up.

    Perhaps embarrassed she is.
    Underhanded undertaking engage in she does.

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  11. Yoda says:

    Women trust problem they do have.
    Address it they should.

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  12. Yoda says:

    blew up to about 300 pounds

    Move she did.
    A disturbance in the force I did sense.

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  13. Cill says:

    “Starter husbands” just smacks of feminism. Deceit is Feminism’s starting position for female attitude toward men.

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  14. Yoda says:

    Deceit is Feminism’s starting position for female attitude toward men.

    True this is.
    Starting point for future post this might be.

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  15. Tarnished says:

    Cill,
    Leaving aside that I wouldn’t be the best “man” at a wedding…I would, but only if it seemed like the future couple truly cared for each other. If it seemed like my friend was being taken for a ride, I’d decline and try my absolute best to dissuade him from such a commitment without pushing him away.

    Re: The post
    The fact that for some unknown reason Christianity is still held up as being full of perfectly moral and ethically bound members is hysterical. Even if the faith itself was a bastion of morality, surely most can see its been all but taken over by “churchianity” by now?

    The most stable and harmonious marriages I know of are typically either some kind of Pagan/agnostic/atheist combination, or what I’d at this point call “old fashioned” Christian where the people involved accept the teachings of the Bible as parables and stories rather than hard fact.

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  16. Liz says:

    I just googled ‘starter husband’.
    Some seriously sad/crazy stuff there.

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  17. Yoda says:

    The fact that for some unknown reason Christianity is still held up as being full of perfectly moral and ethically bound members is hysterical.

    Misread you do.
    Actual Christians realize that sinners they are.

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  18. Cill says:

    Fellow posters, I left a comment in Writers Corner explaining my present situation.

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  19. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Cill,
    Regarding being best man, it really boils down to whether you want to keep your friend or not. My own experience suggests that refusal can break a friendship regardless of how disastrous the marriage is obviously going to be. Conversely, you are unlikely to be blamed for not trying to stop him once the disaster is playing out.

    Fortunately, being a misanthrope means, among other things, that I can stand on principle regardless of social cost. 😊

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  20. Cill says:

    CP, I refused in one case where I’d already told the stupid buggar his wife-to-be was a disaster. He’s still married, they are both miserable, kids all over the place, he’s trapped, and they both hate me.

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  21. Liz says:

    “CP, I refused in one case where I’d already told the stupid buggar his wife-to-be was a disaster. He’s still married, they are both miserable, kids all over the place, he’s trapped, and they both hate me.”

    Damn, that sucks Cill. 😦
    Didn’t mean to hit that ‘like’ button, I was just copying to paste…

    My husband had a roomate like that. His fiance was a disaster. Even so, he was best man. He told him exactly what he thought, but he was best man at the wedding. They didn’t have kids though, thank Christ…he has three with someone much better now.

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  22. Yoda says:

    She said she didn’t intend to be faithful to (whomever she married, she had no one in mind)

    Female entitlement this would be.
    Consider a man thinking as such.
    Treated well he would be not.

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  23. Liz says:

    “Female entitlement this would be.
    Consider a man thinking as such.
    Treated well he would be not.”

    Considered a good choice, she was not
    limited to a special “choice” few friends she was
    Bigger circle for those types these days, most likely

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  24. Liz says:

    That would be a good one for the ‘research topic’ suggestion on FB’s Diversity thread.
    “Are women qualified to referee?”

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  25. Spawny Get says:

    Cill; “they both hate me”

    Hey man, that’s great that you’re bringing them together on at least one issue.

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    “Didn’t mean to hit that ‘like’ button, I was just copying to paste…”

    hit it again Liz, it’s a toggle.

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  27. Tarnished says:

    Women should be allowed to referee in the same way as any other job…if they are actually capable, not just for “diversity” purposes.

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  28. Liz says:

    “hit it again Liz, it’s a toggle.”

    It worked! How cool! 🙂

    I could never be a ref.
    I can’t even say no to the stupid 50 Shades movie, that is going to suck my will to live.
    “Want to go see 50 shades with us on Monday?” (team of hens)
    “Oh…um, I didn’t really like the book…” (me)
    “Comeon! It’ll be fun! We’ll meet up with our guys after…”
    “Um.”
    “Don’t be a party pooper.”
    “Okay, I’m…in, I guess.”
    “Of course you are, you silly banana!”
    I might be noticeably stupider after the 16th. Just giving the heads up.

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  29. Spawny Get says:

    “I might be noticeably stupider after the 16th. Just giving the heads up.”

    Hubby could be noticeably more fatigued (but in a good way) after the 16th.

    The book might well be kerrap (never read it at all), but it might have improved some marriages nevertheless.

    It’s a glass half full kinda thing.

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  30. Tarnished says:

    It’s the worst bdsm “literature”.
    In the world.
    Ever.

    I’m sorry you’re seeing the movie.

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  31. Yoda says:

    “Want to go see 50 shades with us on Monday?” (team of hens)

    Says much about women this does.
    Dominance they do like.
    Except when they say not.
    But still really do.
    Confused they are.

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  32. Yoda says:

    Good way to honor Presidents this is.
    BSDM movies say much about republic they do.

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  33. Yoda says:

    Wonder if a good starter husband Christian Gray would be…

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  34. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Getting back to the original post, when junior high school girls are talking openly about trading in husbands, the cat is out of the bag. This applies doubly to Christians. Mrs. Dalrock should have asked them if any were marriage worthy in holding this attitude.

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  35. Liz says:

    You said it, Tarn. No way is this flick going to not suck.
    Captain Obvious might even step into the dungeon room
    (an action figure they could sell to little girls!)
    Now, I am going to practice domination over self and turn off my internet for a few days!
    Need to curb some of my OCD tendencies…
    (wish me luck, and flog me if I return before…er…Saturday!) 🙂

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  36. Yoda says:

    Mrs. Dalrock should have asked them if any were marriage worthy in holding this attitude.

    But of course they are.
    “Women awesomely awesome they would be.”
    New directive from Empress Leia this is.
    Far from tree the apple did not fall.

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  37. Yoda says:

    Perhaps women see movie to be tortured they will.

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  38. Tarnished says:

    What I want to know is, why do women like the ones Liz mentioned want to watch what amounts to softcore porn together? In a movie theater? Is this the new female bonding experience?

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  39. Yoda says:

    why do women like the ones Liz mentioned want to watch what amounts to softcore porn together

    Empowering it would be.
    Why one knows not.

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  40. Tarnished says:

    Yeah…Um.
    I think ladies are sexy and all, but unless we’re together that way, I’m not interested in watching crappy porn with them.

    But hey, maybe that’s just me.

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    So, does “scheming” work in the long run?
    Maybe it depends on the definition of “work”.

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    And where did these girls probably learn to scheme?

    Did their mothers respect their husbands?

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  43. Cill says:

    “we have to keep feeding the bear. This is his home now.”
    More comment in Writers Block Corner

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  44. Yoda says:

    Hungry the bear would be.

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  45. I haven’t read all the comments, so maybe someone said this but…

    I have not attended a Christian school myself, but friends who had said they were often filled either with kids rebelling against their Christian parents or with “troubled kids” who had gotten kicked out of the public school system. So I would not assume 1.) these kids are (practicing) Christians or 2.) that they have been raised in a truly Christian (not churchian or a “on Sunday only” or even an atheist) household.

    Hopefully the teacher seized the “teachable moment” and set them straight?
    Being a Christian does not divorce-proof a marriage, unfortunately. But I do believe two people being of the same faith, and actually living and practicing that faith and believing there is more to all this than just “this” probably increases the odds.

    Something I saw too much of in the church was high school and college kids being urged to marry so they could “legitimately” have sex. Not that I am advocating they have sex outside of marriage, but to get married for that reason and not because they are emotionally mature and ready and a good match, well I think that is a bad practice.

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  46. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I have to differ with Redpillgirlnotes. While I think the kids are “Churchian”, they are a reflection of the society at large.

    This post bothers me right down to the core. It presumes that women are manipulative from day one and men are just chumps to be used.
    Not a recipe for a long term relationship.

    Please keep feeding the bear. Since I can’t see emoticons anymore here, I’m not getting burritos from Molly.

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  47. Cill says:

    “Yeah…Um.
    I think ladies are sexy and all, but unless we’re together that way, I’m not interested in watching crappy porn with them

    But hey, maybe that’s just me.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Ahhh me… Tarn you’ve done it again.
    You’ll be the death of me one day…

    Thinking about it though, why do women watch crappy porn together? Why together? The mind boggles. Is it a trial, a rite of passage of some sort? Does the togetherness assuage the misery of subjecting themselves to such excruciating drivel? We might solve one of the world’s great mysteries, if we can resolve that.

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  48. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Why do they do it as a group? Moral safety in numbers. It’s naughty.I think you can chalk it up to the herd mentality.

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  49. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,

    Oh, please. 50 Shades just barely on the cusp of being considered “pornography”. It’s droll, juvenile, terribly written, and actually features a lot of abusive themes that should NOT EVER be present in a real bdsm situation. It’s like if someone only had the absolute barest idea of what happens between partners who enjoy this sort of play, and they were also a 15 year old girl. Seriously, if people want to read decent-really good erotica, they should visit literotica dot com.

    Cill,
    Oh Gods…if this is a female rite of passage, I’m incredibly glad I missed out.

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    Why the porn? Because it makes fembots feel like they’re rebelling, the little minxes. They are transgressing society’s rules *tingles*

    It’s like when Mr Mayonnaise, or was it Bearnaise? Anyway Mr Creosote Bernays was asked to market smoking to women. He came up with a campaign calling fags ‘torches of freedom’ *facepalm*. This women smoking were doing it not just because they were manipulated and following the herd, oh no. It was to bravely claim their freedom (from intelligence?)

    http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/08/16/specials/bernays-obit.html

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    Oops. This is Mr Creosote

    My bad, getting them mixed up.

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  52. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t think that we can blame the fembots for this one.When I was a kid, Valentine’s Day was mutual. Boys got girls gifts and girls did as much for boys. I don’t know when it all went one way. While he is not MGTOW, Privateman has a similar position.

    https://theprivateman.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/valentines-day-2015-a-rant/

    Just a thought. What are all the plate spinning guys going to do on holidays?

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    Fags are cigarettes in Brittanese BTW

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  54. Cill says:

    “Moral safety in numbers. It’s naughty.I think you can chalk it up to the herd mentality.”

    Fuzzy, your answers raise more questions:

    1. Do women realize that more than a few minutes of exposure to “50 shades” is an unpleasant experience?

    2. If so, why do they willingly subject themselves to it? Do they want to be victims of their own penchant for unpleasant experiences?

    If the answer to #1 is “No”, I feel sorry for them, I really do.

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  55. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    In an earlier comment, I reccommended that men go out and but their own steak dinners on Feb.14. Bad idea. Better to stay at home and not fight crowds.

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  56. “why do women like the ones Liz mentioned want to watch what amounts to softcore porn together”

    @ Tarn a group of gals I know are going to the movie, too, and invited me but I politely declined. It’s some herd thing, “everyone’s reading/seeing it so it must be good!” I have not read the book but have heard the writing is atrocious. Somehow it outsold Harry Potter though!

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, your answer

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  58. “This post bothers me right down to the core. It presumes that women are manipulative from day one and men are just chumps to be used.”

    @ Fuzzie, I know it’s hard, but try not to get too jaded!

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  59. Spawny Get says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2948024/Labour-s-Harriet-Harman-launches-bid-win-female-voters-women-election-battle-bus-painted-PINK.html

    Hatie Harm-men denies patronising women by painting a crap van pink and writing ‘vote for teh labia party’ on it

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  60. Cill says:

    Harridan Harm-men

    Bloom you must admit this face would make anyone feel jaded:

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  61. Cill says:

    … so why did I have to show it here? To be a victim of my own penchant for unpleasant experiences?

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  62. Tarnished says:

    Cill,
    “1. Do women realize that more than a few minutes of exposure to “50 shades” is an unpleasant experience?

    2. If so, why do they willingly subject themselves to it? Do they want to be victims of their own penchant for unpleasant experiences?”

    1. No, they have no sense of taste. This is due to being fed Entitlement and Herd Mentality wafers all day, which taste like old shoe leather dipped in marmite and broken dreams. The llamas told me, so it must be true…

    2. They subject themselves to it because, as others have stated previously, it makes them feel “naughty”. This is so incredibly, pathetically sad, since it necessarily means their bedrooms are about as exciting as a senior citizen Bingo tournament or a silent auction of unique dust bunnies. I’d invite them into the depths of my deliciously depraved mind, but I fear the poor dears would either join a nunnery or never leave. 😈

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  63. Yoda says:

    Fags are cigarettes in Brittanese BTW

    And fries chips they are.
    And chips crisps they are.
    Odd these people are.

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  64. Cill says:

    “their bedrooms are about as exciting as a senior citizen Bingo tournament or a silent auction of unique dust bunnies”
    That.Is.Sad.

    “I’d invite them into the depths of my deliciously depraved mind, but I fear the poor dears would either join a nunnery or never leave”

    … or you would shock them to death. We’d better pass round the hat for a fund to raise Kardashian from the dead to defend Tarn as miraculously as he defended OJ… Because that’s what tarn is going to need to defend herself against the charge of homicide by wickedness. Miracles.

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  65. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Next you’ll be saying they have some weird name for elevators and apartments.

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  66. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I am laughing at the Labour feminists having to defend themselves of being patronizing to women.

    Redpillgirlnotes,
    I am trying not to close my mind but, they’re not all like you.

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  67. Cill says:

    CP

    “elevators and apartments”

    Lifts and Flats. We have them in NZ too.

    And Marmite and Pikelets

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  68. Cill says:

    And life is as good as a fluffy duck.
    Good as.

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  69. Farm Boy says:

    She looks like she should be a Prussian Chancellor.
    Ms. HH, that is.

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  70. Farm Boy says:

    “their bedrooms are about as exciting as a senior citizen Bingo tournament or a silent auction of unique dust bunnies”

    They are probably not INTs. INTs are never bored. That is one positive we have.

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  71. Farm Boy says:

    They even name a “truck” with a girl’s name.
    In the USA, a truck is about the ultimate symbol of manhood.
    Though much of it is posturing.

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  72. Padawan says:

    Harriet Harm-Mens Face (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)

    Harridan Harm-men has a face that inspires
    Like the hull of a ship of the line
    Her nose is the keel, her ears are the tires
    So she won’t on the wharf bump and grind

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  73. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I had a wicked thought. Had they left the van with the original white, they would have had broader appeal.

    I went and looked up Harriet on wikipedia because in Spawny’s link, she was referred to ss “Miss”. Married since 1982 with two sons and one daughter. She never took her husband’s name.

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  74. Padawan says:

    Harriet has the Face of the Public Purse (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)

    There’s deceit in her eyes, she’s summing the prize
    She can take from you by taxes,
    If you’re a mere man she’ll do what she can
    To fleece your sorry asses

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  75. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Lifts and flats? Pull the other one.

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  76. Padawan says:

    The Face that Launched The Pink Car (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)

    If she smiled her face would shatter to bits
    And rip herself a new one
    So she sends her pink car to scare witless tits
    Into voting for Harridan Harm-done

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  77. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Thinking about harriet’s appearance, she’s plain enough to pass as not ugly but not so glamorous as to put people off.
    It is crafted.

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  78. molly says:

    Hel-O-ho! You there-here? Have you got your emoticons back F-Wuzzie Bear?
    Anyone?

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  79. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Molly,
    Still no emoticons. *sniff* I getting hungry for burritos.
    You were missed and I accused Cill of locking you in a closet.

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  80. molly says:

    O no, I’ve been out working. I went out with girls too, not PPPs tho. Have you been a good bear while I was out? ( Be truthful now, no burritos for fibbers 😉 )

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  81. molly says:

    After work this blog has always gone quiet. (sigh)
    It’s probably a good thing. It’s beautiful afternoon here. I should go have a dip in the sea. It’s past midnight in the land of the bear. Sleep a nice peaceful sleep, Fuzzie!
    I’ll see ya tomorrow 🙂

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  82. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Molly,
    It’s a little past my bedtime.I have been a good bear. I hardly ever do anything that could get me in trouble.Missed you and worried for Cill as he is at a big crossroads in his life.
    Time now to climb under the covers so that only my little round ears are visible.

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  83. Spawny Get says:

    “They even name a “truck” with a girl’s name.”

    A blatant, vicious slur.

    Lorry and Laurie, they don’t even sound the same when spoken (much)

    And while we’re on the subject of gurlz names…Sidney…it’s a fcuking man’s name. Sidney James…movie star…butt ugly bloke, evidence follows.

    Annnd what’s up with naming a gurl after a cheese? I mean, seriously…Brie?

    Next you’ll be naming women with varicose veins, Stilton. Or Blue Stilton in the unlikely event that she works in pr0n.

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  84. Cill says:

    Sidney James…movie star…butt ugly bloke
    … but he did not originate in the same land as you-know-who with the movie star good looks. Sid James was South African.

    I’ve added a new post

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  85. SFC Ton says:

    Cill, I don’t attend weddings of any sorts these days; weddings are basically dishonest funerals

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  86. @ scfton, guess I will take you off the invite list then! 😉

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  87. SFC Ton says:

    The last wedding I attended was my sisters; I tried to talk my future brother in law out of it; told her I would never attained a second wedding or recognize children not from him as legitimate

    She does a pretty good job of being a wife and mother but her husband has pretty good game

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