Questions, Questions

Packs of feral women (PPPs) are running loose in New Zealand.  This phenomenon leads to many questions, ones that society should be asking.  But apparently it is not doing so.  Hopefully Cill will step up and provide a public service by answering them as best he can.

The first line of questioning relates to Society’s reaction.  It appears to be muted, probably due to political correctness and the like.  However, there must surely be undercurrents of thought questioning this behavior.  It should be obvious that these women are highly unlikely to be good mothers.  It is in a society’s interest that the next generation be raised well, and it would be correct for it to ask questions on the matter.

Another line of questioning relates to men’s reaction.  Which appears from afar to be a combination of short term engagement with women (perhaps for those who do not know any better), followed by a long term withdrawal. Apparently men as individuals are not viewed as having value (other than in terms of having short term sex); but men as a whole are essential for society’s functioning.  Would not the withdrawal of men as a whole from opposite sex relationships followed by the natural withdrawal from society as a whole be an question that people would discuss?  Or has the situation not degenerated enough yet for people to notice?

Thirdly, what kind of primordial soup allowed the PPPs to evolve?  Is the feminine imperative more effective there?  Do women push for privileges, and then receive them?  Is there a level of prosperity such that the fallout of this behavior can be easily accommodated?  Are the young women so full of self-esteem that “what they want is what they deserve”, no questions asked?

The last line of questioning asks how the primordial soup came to be?  Were there court decisions that cleared the path?  Did men just decide to sit back, relax, and let it happen?  Was there a conspiracy to force rule changes down people’s throats?

Answers would be very enlightening.

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57 comments on “Questions, Questions
  1. Farm Boy says:

    It is odd that Kiwi Society is not asking these questions.

    Perhaps it is the Ostrich Society…


  2. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    It is our prejudice, in looking at a world map, that New Zealand is a hop, skip. and a junp away from South Africa, where the ostriches live. I asked this once of a South African ad he said that it was over three thousand miles to Austrailia.
    It could well be that ordiary people are not aware of what goes on in the clubs at night. One thing for sure, those who work in emergency services are very much aware. I am still finding all this hard to fathom.


  3. Cill says:

    “Perhaps it is the Ostrich Society”
    In the immortal words of Tarn, “Yup”.

    There is no academic or official attention to the PPP sickness, because it’s an innately female sickness. Any examination of it threatens the feminism that created it. Therefore it is ideologically beyond diagnosis.

    The MSM is feminist. The silence is the fault of the MSM. The ignorance is a result of the silence. The PPP is a result of the ignorance. A permanent loss of all trust, confidence, respect, friendship, and affection between men and women will be the result of the PPP.

    In allowing itself to become feminist, the MSM is responsible for that permanent loss. Here in NZ the MSM is the problem more than anything else.

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  4. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I have heard it said that the marketplace works in the manner that the female herd wants it to. That we have “hookup culture” is because, collectively, women want it.
    That you have noticed that men are not accepting what women are offering and are choosing not to participate is a marketplace failure. The female herd will have to adjust.
    About the mainstream media, people in the US have less faith in them than they do in legislators. Not good.


  5. Cill says:

    “About the mainstream media, people in the US have less faith in them than they do in legislators. Not good”

    Then there’s a long way to go. In NZ, in terms of the least-respected people in society, journalists have rated down amongst politicians and used car salesmen for decades. Regardless, the MSM became ever more feminist.

    Fuzzy, “the female herd” has indoctrinated itself into an illogical mess out of which it is incapable of achieving anything. It can’t make ideological or political gain without the support of sycophantic white males.

    The causes of PPP:
    So far we’ve got:
    MSM + Sycophantic white males…


  6. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    This isn’t working. Men are leaving the playing field. In previous times, this would be beyond conception. That is how bad they are making a mess of it. Change is coming and the feminine imperative will have to consider male sensibilities.


  7. Cill says:

    Fuzzy said “Men are leaving the playing field.”


    Men have been “voting with their feet” for decades now. Somewhere in their muddled heads young NZ women do desire marriage enough to physically attack the immigrant women the NZ men are increasingly preferring to marry:

    “Some experts have suggested that the shortage of marriageable men in New Zealand and the growing trend among New Zealand men to marry Thai women is leading to a tension between key groups of women in New Zealand and Thai women living the country… ”


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  8. Spawny Get says:

    You’ve done it again Cill.


  9. Tarnished says:

    “Did men just decide to sit back, relax, and let it happen?”

    Nothing against my NZ brothers, but if this behavior started small and simply led to more sexual availability (not the overt predatory stances of today) of women, I can absolutely see this as a reason. If men as a whole…especially younger men…were able to obtain noncommittal sex with greater frequency due to pre-PPP actions, they could be forgiven for sitting back and enjoying it. How were they to know what it would lead to?


  10. Yoda says:

    simply led to more sexual availability

    For a few perhaps it did.
    Most left out they were.


  11. Yoda says:

    Oprah Winfrey invade New Zealand she did?


  12. Yoda says:

    I have heard it said that the marketplace works in the manner that the female herd wants it to.

    Set up the rules they do.
    Works in the manner that they want somewhat questionable it is.


  13. Yoda says:

    Some experts have suggested that the shortage of marriageable men in New Zealand and the growing trend among New Zealand men to marry Thai women

    Anybody ask why they did?


  14. Yoda says:

    The female herd will have to adjust.

    Questionable this will be.
    Go down with the ship they will


  15. Yoda says:

    Men are leaving the playing field. In previous times, this would be beyond conception.

    In times past men leaving not happen it would.
    Society’s death follow it would.
    Exempt from this moderns think.
    Think wrong they do

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  16. Yoda says:

    Like Degoba this thread is.

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  17. Cill says:

    “Like Degoba this thread is”

    Looking at VIDEO OF THE PPPs (PREDATORY PROMISCUOUS PRINCESSES) post, there were 67 coments and 5 commenters.

    In terms of supply and demand, my place here in NZ is the supplier and the rest of the world is the demand. If we take out my place and look at the all-important demand side, we’re left with only 3 commenters: you, Bloom and Fuzzie. This indicates a numerically tiny level of interest in the subject. I noticed a similar low level of interest in a post on the same subject back in October last year.

    The supply side will require a lot of work (original, pioneering work, actually) and I don’t think the demand justifies the effort. Maybe another post from me at some stage, then call it a day?


  18. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Without you, how would all the Predatory Promiscuous Princesses gain worldwide attention? You know that they only do it for the attention, do you? The next thing you know, they’re bringing flowers and candy to you to write more posts.

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  19. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Seriously, as for commenting being quiet, something weird has happened in the last couple of weeks with my search engine, Bing. Before, I only had to type in “haw” to get a prompt for Hawaiian Libertarian and “spawnyspace to get here. Now, It’s “hawaiian li” and “”. Could the fembots be making thi9ngs more difficult?


  20. Spawny Get says:

    Hey! I find it VERY interesting in a poking the dead dog with a stick kind of way.

    This is another great post showing what happens to society when women’s instincts are unleashed,

    These women are not marriageable, not suitable parents, they are, as ‘professional’ women in their twenties and thirties (whatever the fuck professional means…paper pusher, middle management, keen endless meeting attendee) fucking around like late teen boys that have the necessary SMV (as usual women doing the apex fallacy).

    They are fucking stupid enough to proudly claim their behaviour is empowering…in what way? Casual sex is empowering for women? All through history women have just had to think they’d get away with it and say yes. The trick used to be to get a return on the free sex to the man.

    And they’re wondering why men aren’t interested in marrying them.

    So they change the law to make cohabitation into de-jure marriage for divorce and family courts…and they wonder why men are not interested in anything beyond an ONS / STR! They voted in the laws that destroyed their relationship value…and they’re just mystified! FFS, women, FFS.

    And you can’t change the laws because men know that they could be changed back again. Especially with a majority female population plus mangina men.

    And anyway all these women are unmarriageable, all the PPPs…what value have they in marriage? NONE. They’re a ticking timebomb which the man is left hoping he’ll get to die before she goes off. Well, thanks, but no fucking thanks.

    But as always in a gynocentric culture (aka Earth pretty much) all the women and manginas are walking around, scratching their head as to what men are doing wrong.

    And they wonder why Men are Going Their Own Way, or are Men Opting Out

    MGTOW and MOO

    These articles are GREAT. That’s why I said, “You’ve done it again Cill.”. Which was a big compliment.

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    AFAIAC any woman using the words ‘proud’ or ’empowered’ is fucked in the head. They’ve drunk the koolaid. They’re too fucking stupid and gullible to be of any value beyond a teenage girl.

    We should have a fembot buzzword list.

    And men and sane women (have we got three here? maybe four) should start openly laughing at any woman using a word from the list. Ridicule is the only way to get the next generation (this one is fucked) to abandon the stupidity that this generation has bought into hook, line and sinker.

    These PPPs are of no use to anyone except politicians and the tax inspectorate. If they get preggo then you can add the social workers industry that live off of their bad decisions and those of their kids.

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  22. Farm Boy says:


    You can post these articles for the “long run”. People will come here over the course of time, find them, and learn something useful.


  23. Cill says:

    “The next thing you know, they [PPPs] are bringing flowers and candy to you to write more posts”

    Wow Fuzzy, how will we categorize that in terms of supply-side incentive? Incentive like a kick in the balls?
    Hahahahaha! XD


  24. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, as you know, there are reasons that I’m quasi-absent…

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  25. Cill says:

    “Could the fembots be making thi9ngs more difficult?”
    Fuzzy, what sort of thi9ngs are you typing into the Bing search box? 😀

    Spawny, I know mate. My point is though, even with you here in the usual way, the demand-side would’ve totaled a dazzling 4


  26. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    All this discussion about PPPs has got me so confused. But, somebody has to write about it first. Better that it be you as you have witnessed this first hand.

    You’re right. These PPPs would make teffible wives. In their vanity, they don’t realize how much they have damaged themselves for that rol in life.

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  27. Tarnished says:


    I kinda know how you feel. I’ve done numerous posts over at my place that had really excellent Views…like 150+ for a single post. But then when you look at the comments it’s only 3-5 people talking!

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  28. Cill says:

    Tarn: and the most garrulous one was me, no doubt!


  29. Spawny Get says:

    “they don’t realize how much they have damaged themselves for that rol in life.”

    I think that they suspect, but they know it’s too late…and they’re right. A man cohabiting and/or impregnating one of these women is fucking nuts. Genetic tracking, even indirectly by other family members of the dad, will get most daddies caught sooner, or later.


  30. Spawny Get says:

    “garrulous ” other words exist… 😉


  31. Spawny Get says:

    250 views per day and 60-70 comments is a normal day. A casual look at the stats suggest that this post is on track. It’s skewed by my timezone, your timezone and the Americans’ (of various flavours) zones. It’s the weekend, iirc JFG said things dropped off then…

    My last post got three comments… *shrug* some of my most popular were throwaway posts. Hard to tell what will work, but I wouldn’t give up on this one.

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  32. Yoda says:

    Exiled I am.
    Keep up the good fight one must.
    The long term important it is.

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  33. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    This is a good venue for your writing. We’re all pretty civil and accepting here. BTW, Keoni Galt of Hawaiian Libertarian admitted that he gets about one omment for every hundred page views. Does that hep put things in perspective?


  34. Spawny Get says:

    Yes Fuzzy, I’m not sure that all views are captured by the stats (I have a lot of script blockers / site blockers. I’m sure others do too), but I do think that this site has an unusually high comment to view ratio (a guess).

    TBH this site was created to have friendly discussions, I’m pretty happy how it’s going. I wasn’t sure it was going to last more than a few weeks. I wanted it to be a community effort…and it is. Spawny is a happy bunny FWIW.

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  35. Cill says:

    It sure is a beautiful morning here… again I can’t recall any rain here since I returned from China about a week before Christmas.

    Anyway, back to the subject:
    FB said “You can post these articles for the “long run”. People will come here over the course of time, find them, and learn something useful.”

    Basically I’m here for the fun. I’ve put in a serious side as well, but Fun more than anything else is the reason I feel like I’m a part of this blog.

    The post “How to Handle the PPPs (Predatory Promiscuous Princesses)” (
    worked well because it depicted a real-life male-female altercation on the street.

    Writing on heavy, dry topics reminds me too much of my thesis work at Uni. I want to avoid my posts becoming too heavy. Readers would pick up that I hadn’t enjoyed writing them.

    I could approach the Kiwi PPP etc madness through personal anecdotes, as Molly in effect suggested:
    I’d enjoy doing that. But… I can’t think of a suitable way to get around the privacy issues. I know there must be a way but it’s eluding me for the moment.


  36. Farm Boy says:

    People should note that when posters (i.e. Spawny, Cill, Tarn, etc. ), that is those with a “posting account”, view a page it does not “count”. So most page views counted other than Fuzzie and Molly are “external”

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  37. Farm Boy says:

    It is true. This is a more fun place to be than other spots in the manosphere.

    Liked by 1 person

  38. Spawny Get says:

    I certainly don’t have a problem with serious posts, but I do like the atmosphere.

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  39. Farm Boy says:

    This place does have posts of a different style than other sites.

    Which is good.

    As a programming note, for the foreseeable future I will post mainly around the weekends (Th,F, Sat, Sun). It would be fine if others could fill in the other days.

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    What we have here is a second law of thermodynamics issue. Modern women have poisoned the well. It will take much energy in the future to separate the poison from the drinking water.


  41. Farm Boy says:

    A good mixture of seriousness and fun works best.

    On this site and in real life.

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  42. Cill says:

    I find that here and Tarn’s place complement each other very well


  43. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps they should merge.

    [SG – Tarn’s place has more followers than here. We’re doing better on comment count. I’m not sure that all of what Tarn wants to say, and her audience would be best served by a complete merge. As things develop we might, we all might, talk about improving things. Booking a day to make a post? A little coordination? But keeping things casual and friendly. I didn’t set out to make MY blog, I set out to make a fun, friendly and interesting space produced by the people who want that atmosphere]

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  44. Cill says:

    ” It will take much energy in the future to separate the poison from the drinking water.”

    FB, that task would take up all our waking hours. Life is too short. Most men want to have some fun while they’re alive. Anyway, for every poisonous molecule we remove they’d be pouring more in. It would take both sides to clean the well. I see no signs of women seriously attempting to fix their attitudes. On the contrary, they deliberately make things worse as fast as they possibly can. In these circumstances, they’re not worth the effort.

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  45. Cill says:

    We can do our best to seal the well off from the unwary, then go our own way.

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  46. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I think it may be best to leave wellenough alone. I, for one, do not want to go back and get picked on by Obsidian.
    Aother thought, having a blog that is very popular is hrd work and it does make the blogger a target.


  47. Farm Boy says:

    Another thought, having a blog that is very popular is hrd work and it does make the blogger a target.

    You are not the first to notice that. One can do good by being small also.

    Look how “being big” corrupted Aunt Giggles


  48. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Just saw this and wanted to share. It looks as if adherants of Game are coming around to similqr conclusions by a different path.!

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  49. Yoda says:

    The thirst a good topic to explore it is.


  50. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    “Thirst” is a complex issue. There is a lot more to it than being horny. A lot oif those factors are beneficial.


  51. Tarnished says:


    Yes…but then they take it too far. From the article on removing every source of validation towards women ‘forever’;

    “They wouldn’t know what to do with themselves. They would be throwing themselves at us and the balance of power would be restored. Remember the times when girls would be insecure, when girls would be needy, when girls would text you first? If we all work together, we can have that again.”

    I don’t know about anyone else here, but why the hell would you want your partner to be “needy” or “insecure”? Texting the guy first, not being rude, learning manners, declining guys offers nicely, maybe even (dare I say it?) taking the initiative to buy dinner or ask *him* out are all really excellent things that women could absolutely do to restore balance on their end.

    But refusing to show someone they are appreciated or desired, even while in a relationship (as some commenters suggested) and constantly “putting them in their place”?

    I’m sure some of our own commenters can describe what that’s like coming from their wives, and I certainly can tell stories I’ve heard from my friends about their wives or ex-girlfriends. There’s a huge difference between refusing to put someone on an undeserved pedestal/rewarding base mediocrity VS letting someone know you think they’re worth being with, whether that’s for a single night or a decade.

    Of course, it goes without saying that both sexes need to be taught this, not just one. This isn’t naivete speaking. This is a potential solution for upcoming generations.

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  52. Cill says:

    I added a new post

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  53. Sumo says:

    FWIW, I usually only comment if I can think of something inappropriately smartassy to say.

    [SG – me too. Or I just want to talk drivel]

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  54. Yoda says:

    think of something inappropriately smartassy to say

    PPPs much fodder they provide

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  55. Farm Boy says:

    Writing posts helps me develop and sharpen my thoughts.

    I hope that the results benefit others.

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