How to Handle the PPPs (Predatory Promiscuous Princesses)


To all men and women here:

What do you think about this scenario:

You are wearing suit and tie on your way to a friend’s wedding, to be his Best Man. A van stops beside you in the street. Seven young women pile out of it and surround you. You keep walking, which necessitates bumping against them. They ask you to go with them in the van. You say, “I have to be somewhere else. Maybe another time.”

They close in. You attempt to cross the street to evade them. Everywhere you turn they stand in your way. They are enjoying it and expect you to be enjoying it too. You manage to get a glimpse of your watch. You’re going to be late. CCTV cameras are on you. If you manhandle them you’ll be done for assault or worse. Their hands are all over you now. They are laughing and smiling and stretching up to kiss your face. They start to pull you towards their van. You try to fall down but there are so many of them they appear not to notice and hold you upright and moving toward their van. No-one takes you seriously when you protest loudly.

How would you handle it?

Links:

Colin Craig vindicated—young NZ women are the most promiscuous in the world http://www.theconservative.co.nz/?q=node/586

NZ women promiscuous – doctor

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10737380

Kiwi women most promiscuous in the world

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/22444/Kiwi-women-most-promiscuous-in-the-world

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Which-Are-the-Wold-039-s-Most-Promiscuous-Women-80450.shtml

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/295808/No-dating-thanks-just-sex

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  1. Cill says:

    This is not an otherworldly scenario. It actually happened. The only way to get to the wedding on time, or get to it at all, is to be rough with the princesses. They are too drunk to take “No” for an answer.

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  2. theasdgamer says:

    Even being autistic, how would I not go with the flow? Maybe call my friend and explain why I can’t make it, lol. Like he would believe me. Send him a vid of all the women with me for him to enjoy on his honeymoon.

    How would a woman handle being surrounded by lesbians? Idk.

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  3. Cill says:

    Okay. Let’s ratchet it up a bit. The wedding is to be a big one. Guests have arrived from around the world. You have the ring. In addition to your speech as Best Man, you’re expected to have an MC role as well. Your absence will disrupt the wedding of 2 close friends. Again, this is fact, not fiction.

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  4. Spawny Get says:

    You got a like because I was laughing after just reading the title. Now to read it…

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  5. Spawny Get says:

    I’d think that Kiwi women were worse than I thought. WTF

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  6. Yoda says:

    Sluts they would be.
    Marriage material they would be not.
    Probably this matters to them not.

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  7. Yoda says:

    This is not an otherworldly scenario.

    On other worlds happens this does.
    Degraded those worlds do become.
    The Mos Eisley Cantina scene with chicks do picture.

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  8. Tarnished says:

    @Cill,
    If I was in your shoes, male and all, I’d slap one of them. Yes, I recognize that it may get you in trouble and the cops may be called. On the other hand, it might make them realize you’re not fucking around.
    If this seems harsh to you, then I’d say yell over to any passerby to call the police, or maybe even get feral and literally growl in their faces.

    Asdgamer,
    I’m going to say this as nicely as possible:
    Getting laid or being validated by women is not the end-all, be-all. This is something that only MGTOW seem to grasp, but I have the utmost respect for them doing so.
    Chasing tail is not more important than fulfilling obligations to lifelong friends, and dealing with drunk princess types who are so entitled that they believe they can literally abduct an unknown man off the street without repercussions is not sexy. It’s not a bad porno…it’s a situation where the guy might even be raped.

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  9. Cill says:

    Okay, theasdgamer’s advice looks like the only option. No other advice from my mates?

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  10. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,
    They’re not only sluts, but physical assaulters, sexual harrassers, and potential rapists. No one is entitled to anyone else’s body, least not in the way they believe.

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  11. Yoda says:

    Approach this is,

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  12. Tarnished says:

    Reblogged this on Tarnished Sophia and commented:

    New post by my dear friend, Cill.
    What does one do when confronted with hyper-entitled women who are literally messing up your life? Comments over there, come join the conversation.

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  13. Cill says:

    Hey Yoda, I liked the rabbit at the end!

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  14. Yoda says:

    No one is entitled to anyone else’s body

    Women’s entitlements expanding they are.
    Coming soon this will be.

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  15. Yoda says:

    Rabbits exist in Kiwiland they do?

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  16. Yoda says:

    A woman officeworker at the Jedi Academy named rabbit she was.
    Appropriate name all agreed.

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  17. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,

    I know, and it needs to cease immediately. If it’s not ultra-radfems saying men need to be less than 20% of the global population, it’s teachers who raped their underage male students then have the gall to sue for child support as soon as the boy turns 18.

    Stop the planet.
    I want to get off.

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  18. Cill says:

    Thanks Tarn! At some stage I’ll reveal how I resolved the situation. However, it wasn’t an option that will be available to me every time. It’s just a matter of time before I find myself in a similar situation again:

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Which-Are-the-Wold-039-s-Most-Promiscuous-Women-80450.shtml

    Thanks for your suggestions, too. Men don’t think of those options at the time. Other people (passers by etc) either ignore the event or smile and laugh at it, or (as has happened to me) shout out words of encouragement for the PPPs.

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  19. Sumo says:

    I have no illusions about the ability for women to cause physical harm. I once had a bitch nearly blind me when she backhanded me in the eye with a ring after I refused to let her drunken ass into the bar I was working at. That incident served as my initiation to the Slap-A-Ho Tribe. I also had a threesome with her fiance and his buddy.

    To clarify, my definition of “threesome” is any time where I end up fighting two opponents.

    I sort of agree with Tarn, slapping one of them might be necessary, if you’re also prepared for the inevitable reaction from a White Knight (or two). I would recommend a more subtle response, perhaps a joint lock (wrist, finger – anything unobtrusive), or a finger jabbed into a vulnerable spot on the torso that, while painful, is not likely to cause any permanent damage.

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  20. theasdgamer says:

    C’mon, Cill, you can’t open a box of crackerjacks and get a replacement ring for the ceremony? And since when is the best man the only MC you can get? These are all trivial problems.

    Now if you have a child who has been kidnapped and you need to get to a dropoff point, that’s a different situation.

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  21. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I had a feeling that this wasn’t a fiction. Getting out would be the first priority. If these women are not above abducting a stranger in broad daylight, using that stranger for sex would be the mildest of outcomes. Torture and murder are also psssible.

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  22. Tarnished says:

    Sorry to hear of your troubles, Sumo. People suck.

    Your words serve very well to highlight the fact that DV against men is a real occurance and hardly outside the realm of possibility. Women are generally weaker than men, true. But you can’t tell me that a 5’5″ tall man and woman of similar weight, muscle ratio, and zero fighting experience wouldn’t be on a close level in regards to the damage they could do to each other.
    Also, women typically use weapons whereas men just use their fists. If a woman chucks a frying pan or drugs your food or stabs you in the back before you even have a chance to do *anything*, it’s entirely conceivable that she’s going to go to town on your ass.

    Women shouldn’t harm anyone, men shouldn’t harm anyone. There’s no double standard to Don’t Be An Abusive Jerk.

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  23. theasdgamer says:

    If it was a matter of life or death, I’d discreetly punch the solar plexus of two of them. Otherwise, go with the flow.

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  24. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,

    Black market organ “donations” spring to mind…

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  25. theasdgamer says:

    Tarn, typically a woman can only do serious damage to a man if she takes him by surprise from behind. My daughters are exceptions because they are trained in fencing and understand timing and distance. One competed well against men in fencing. She’d be very dangerous with a small sword.

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  26. Sumo says:

    Tarn, that was not domestic violence, that was line of duty stuff. The bitch’s fiance was actually the one beaking at me when I refused entry to the drunken sloor, and while my attention was on him, she drove the ring into my eye.

    This is the finger thing I was talking about:

    http://tinyurl.com/pv5umc9

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    MGTOW vs avfm. Seems it’s not just me that things Fideldoodah’s mindless word games moronic

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  28. Liz says:

    Did you try something a wee bit stronger than, “REALLY, truly, I have to go!” ?
    Something along the lines of, “Back off and get out of my way you crazy bitches!”

    Or….”Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!”

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  29. Cill says:

    Sumo I have no illusions about the ability for women to cause physical harm either. One of them pulled my necktie so hard it left a bruise on the back of my neck. Not many men could have delivered a harder tug.

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  30. Yoda says:

    .”Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!”

    Effective this would be

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  31. Cill says:

    theasdgamer,

    Good ideas. I’d put a lot of preparation into the MC side, co-ordinating with others etc. I was on the way to the wedding at the time. Even if a replacement MC could be found at a moment’s notice, he/she couldn’t have picked up on what had to be done. It would’ve been a mess at best.

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  32. Cill says:

    Fuzzy, they were just PPPs wanting sex.

    Tarn, DV against men is a real occurrence. I wouldn’t be surprised if some people here have witnessed it. I have, and pretty nasty it was, too.

    Liz “Allahu Akbar!” Now that really is resourceful. Why didn’t I think of that?

    Spawny I haven’t looked at the vid yet, but I will (I’m multitasking here – as are you, I suspect). That MGTOW vs AVFM is a bloody important subject.

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  33. Anonymous says:

    Spawny:

    Just thought I’d let you know that I linked here from Tarnished’s site…

    That said, I would fight like the devil.

    If I knew the location of a nearby CCTV camera, I would turn towards that camera and shout out, with very exaggerated facial motions; ‘leave me alone!’; while fighting my way free of the group. The reason is that I suspect the van is what law enforcement calls a secondary crime scene. In other words, once I’m out of public view I suspect that the flirty act will drop and either a couple of rather large guys will appear, or tazers, knives, or guns will appear in the women’s hands. Shortly after this, I will receive an interesting offer; if I give up all valuables in my possession, I will get to remain breathing.

    Bottom line up front, the scenario is just too much of a setup.

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  34. How would I handle this? I have a few ideas. I’ve fantasized about just this very sort of thing many times…

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  35. If I were the guy, it would end in violence. If a group of people (men or women) will harass me and prevent me from moving where I need to go then violence is going to happen. I’m not the kind to wait to see what the first punch feels like.

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  36. Yoda says:

    Silly this all is.
    A man can be a victim not.

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  37. Tarnished says:

    …said the ignorant, misandric radfems. 😛

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  38. Cill says:

    Yoda “Women’s entitlements expanding they are. Coming soon this will be.”
    It’s at that stage already in NZ. Women can behave as they like with impunity. Yes, we do have rabbits here.

    Tarn, DV against men:
    For a mercifully short number of my earlier years, I lived in a nasty little dump of a village. The police were called almost every night to deal with DV. The top cop for the region was a friend of my parents. I remember him saying almost all of the DV was female on male. Pouring scalding water on their sleeping husband’s faces was a favorite, or if their husbands were awake, throwing boiling fat at them. It explained why so many of the men walked around with severe burn marks. In other cases it was just good old-fashioned battery. You’re absolutely right, many women are quite capable of beating up a man in a one-on-one. I’ve seen it happen. The one who wins in a fight is invariably the one with the greater experience in vicious fighting (short of martial arts training of course). They lose their inhibitions against ruthlessly delivering maximum damage in minimum time. I think Sumo will agree with me on that. During the time we lived there (1 – 2 years) no charges were brought against any of the women.

    Fuzzy, I see what you mean now. For all the passers-by knew, the women could have been into torture or murder or kidnapping. If it had been 7 men attempting to drag a woman into a vehicle, there would’ve been outrage and plans for intervention – if not retribution.

    Sumo, joint locks, sneaking in a few undetectable blows etc. I did toy with that idea at the time, but decided on another course of action instead.

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  39. Tarnished says:

    Cill,

    It’s rather disturbing that they were manhandling you to that extent, though. Even if they “only” wanted sex, they could have seriously harmed you. Flashes of bruised pelvic bones, broken penises, and ruptured testicles are now flitting through my mind. *shudder and gag*

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  40. Cill says:

    Tarn at 10:18 pm:
    Great minds think alike. While you were typing, I was typing a response to Fuzzy ^^^

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  41. Tarnished says:

    Cill,

    Why the hell did they stay? Learned helplessness? To protect the children? Lack of individual/accessible income?

    If anyone ever harmed me in such a way, I’d pack up and leave as soon as I was able. That’s why it’s good to keep a nice chunk of money in an account or credit card that’s *only* in your name, preferably unknown to the other person. Seems sneaky, but could end up providing a way out of a dire situation.

    Sad that this things need to be planned for. 😦

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  42. Tarnished says:

    Yup, I figured.

    I’m super careful when pleasuring my lover’s genitals, but it still amazes me just how delicate and vulnerable they are, especially the testes. Certainly not parts that should be handled carelessly or by idiot drunkards.

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  43. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I can see how something like this can happen. Nobody is prepared for the unexpected. That your local floozies would entertain such a pastime is hard to fathom. That makes them, for all intents and puposes, immune to prosecution.
    My concern was that, once inhiubitions were done away with, what else could they do?

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  44. Tarnished says:

    Bad Scenario: Dump Cill’s poor, unsuspecting arse out in the middle of nowhere, or a town/city he’s unfamiliar with.

    Worse Scenario: Do the above, but keep his wallet/money.

    Worst Scenario: Sober up, realize what utter losers they are, and claim rape. (Don’t ask me how, it is simply a possibility.)

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  45. Cill says:

    Tarn, some of the husbands, the fathers of the few kids I bothered to befriend at the school, stayed for their children. They were the better men in the neighborhood. I doubt that the rest of the husbands gave a toss about their children. Too dumb or drunk to get out, is my guess.

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  46. Cill says:

    Tarn at 11:08 pm :

    “Bad Scenario” or “Worse Scenario”: Uh, no. I would not go gentle. Bones would be broken, blood would flow – and it wouldn’t be mine.

    “Worst Scenario”. Yes, and that’s when the real nightmare would begin.

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  47. Cill says:

    “My concern was that, once inhibitions were done away with, what else could they do?”
    By all accounts, Fuzzy, sex has been all the PPPs were after… so far. But I can’t help wondering, how much damage has gone undeclared and unreported? (men tend to stay quiet about such things as wrecked dicks)

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  48. Tarnished says:

    *Gasp!* New commenters!

    Hi UV, Mal, and Anon! So happy to see you guys here. 😀

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  49. Tarnished says:

    Cill,

    “Wrecked dicks” just made me wince in sympathy…and I don’t even have one! 😮
    I knew someone in college who’d gotten a fractured penis from an overenthusiastic girlfriend in high school. He said it was the most painful and embarrassing injury he’d ever had, and it took forever to heal *plus* there was the danger of it damaging his urethra and the potential for bloodclots.

    Serious stuff, my friends.

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  50. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    If a girl wants sex, she doesn’t need to form a gang and kidnap giys. This is about dominance.

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  51. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farn,
    If it ever went to “Worst scenario”, I would hope that the police would smell something fishy when several women mald simultaneous accusations against one unarmed man.

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  52. Cill says:

    Yes Fuzzy, it is.

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  53. Fuzzie is right. It’s not about sex which is why my goto would be violence. I don’t mind going to the hospital or even dying but there’s going to be a hell of a mess to clean up one way or the other.

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  54. Farm Boy says:

    Fell asleep and was slow clearing some comments.

    You were probably watching Murikan Football.

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  55. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Another thought. While I can’t answer for New Zealand, in the US, there is an underlying principle that by engaging in conspirac, it take the crimje to whole new level. To conspire to commit a misdemeaor transforms it to a felony. A bunch of women and the presence of a van is not a crime of opportunity. The nature of it reveals intent and planning.

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  56. Cill says:

    myatheistlife: fair enough.
    “Yes Fuzzy, it is.” – I meant yes it is more about dominance than sex. I see it as an in-your-face display of the gender superiority of the female over the male.

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    “I’m multitasking here – as are you, I suspect).”
    A house I was looking to buy (but my bid lost) came back on the market. Lost a lot of sleep last night thinking about options.
    Busy day today.
    Fell asleep.

    “That MGTOW vs AVFM is a bloody important subject.”
    A great video response that one. I seldom read that guy’s dribble as he just plays definitional games so often. But the depth of crap that DD wades through here was…depressing. if the article discussed was meant to win anybody over to avfm as MGTOW central…bwahahaha

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  58. Farm Boy says:

    The nature of it reveals intent and planning.

    Modern women have intent, but do they plan?

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  59. Farm Boy says:

    When I was a kid, women were just plain not expected to behave poorly as described in the post. If that was the case, then there would be no need for countermeasures.

    We now allow women to act poorly.
    But we still have no allowed countermeasures.

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  60. Sumo says:

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch that video. While I find JB amusing, the rest of them strike me as being a bunch of idiots.

    Both sides are trying to establish themselves as the “leaders” of MGTOW (from what I can see). I guess none of them ever bothered to reflect on just how ridiculous it is to try and be the “leader” of something that, by definition, implies an absence of leadership or organizational structure of any kind.

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  61. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    Fidelbogen is difficult to fisk. It all stems from his style and it is obtuse as opposed to acute. Diana Davison set a big task for herself.

    Farm Boy,
    Yes they can plan. Do not be puit off by the “stupid” act.

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  62. Cill says:

    Fuzzy at 18 January, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    Good points. Agreed.

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  63. Cill says:

    Fuzzy, the PPPs make no secret of it. They are proud of it. They plan to go out and hunt men.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/295808/No-dating-thanks-just-sex

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  64. Tarnished says:

    “The Sunday Star-Times’ Being a Bloke survey last year found that 29% of the 5000 men surveyed felt they had been pressured into having sex or had had sex unwillingly.”

    Women having sex unwillingly = Rape

    Men having sex unwillingly = Bad sex

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  65. Yoda says:

    PPPs make no secret of it. They are proud of it.

    Kiwi men leaving understandable it is.
    Pointless to have serious relationship it would be

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  66. Cill says:

    I edited the post to add some links that I should’ve put there at the start. Here are the extra ones that I haven’t shown before:
    Colin Craig vindicated—young NZ women are the most promiscuous in the world http://www.theconservative.co.nz/?q=node/586

    NZ women promiscuous – doctor http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10737380

    Kiwi women most promiscuous in the world http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/22444/Kiwi-women-most-promiscuous-in-the-world

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  67. Cill says:

    “Kiwi men leaving understandable it is.
    Pointless to have serious relationship it would be”
    Yeah Yoda, is it any wonder I’m a MGHOW?

    Tarn:
    Women having sex unwillingly = Rape
    Men having sex unwillingly = Bad sex
    … And MGTOW grows like a mushroom in the land of the long white cloud.

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  68. Spawny Get says:

    Fair enough Sumo.

    If you ever get curious for some reasonable insight into the issue…DD and JtO were on the inside of avfm and the video above isn’t dumb n sweary.

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  69. Yoda says:

    Men having sex unwillingly = Bad sex

    A bad thing this would be.
    For the women that is.
    Men unimportant they believe.

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  70. Cill says:

    It’s a long video at 18 January, 2015 at 7:58 pm.
    DD kicks ass. What a mess she describes.

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  71. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    You and the linked videos talked about the women being promiscuous but, what of the men? It would seem to me that a small group of men would be hyper-promiscuous, while the greater portion would be shut out of the party.
    It this what is happening there?

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  72. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    It would not be good for tourism if it got about that gangs of women were kidnapping men fro sex. Something like this video would be minor.

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  73. Cill says:

    “It would not be good for tourism if it got about that gangs of women were kidnapping men fro sex” says Fuzzy. Take a gander at this, Fuzzy:

    “Tourism New Zealand – always on the look out for chances to boost the flow of visitors who are so important to the economy – has launched a new marketing campaign aimed at wooing young British men with the enticement of an abundance of desirable and man-hungry Kiwi women” :
    http://www.topnews.in/no-country-single-women-shortage-men-new-zealand-284650

    Hahahahaha! 😀

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  74. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    The “man hungry” part they got right.
    In the linked youtube videos from The Conservative post, I couldn’t tell the diference by sight from these and ordinary women.

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  75. Cill says:

    “It would seem to me that a small group of men would be hyper-promiscuous, while the greater portion would be shut out of the party.”

    New Zealand women are at top of the women’s list with an average of 20.4 sexual partners while Kiwi blokes were 11th down the men’s list with an average of 16.8:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/22444/Kiwi-women-most-promiscuous-in-the-world)

    This shows that some of the Kiwi men are certainly a lot busier than the average. However, it could also indicate that Kiwi men on average find it easy to get sex – and that is my (and my friends’) perception of it. Gawd, all a guy has to do is walk down the street on a Friday or Saturday night, or walk into one of the known-for-it bars at any damn time.

    It’s also my perception that a lot of desirable men are avoiding it. The novelty has worn off.

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  76. Cill says:

    Tarn,
    I clicked on your “Like” at 18 January, 2015 at 10:34 pm with great care. I think most men would feel too tender and delicate to click it at all! 😀

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  77. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    This all beginning to sound like a grand social experimnt gone wrong. Bringing over UK men as sex tourists is not going to help at all.

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  78. Cill says:

    You’re right, Fuzzy. I live in cloud loo-la land.

    It’s a great little country, but the feminism aspect is stark raving bonkers. Lots of good men here, though, and a few fantastic women.

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    Bringing over UK men as sex tourists is not going to help at all.

    Eat, Prey, Love

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  80. Cill says:

    Farm Boy, Muahahahahaha!

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  81. Cill says:

    At this stage I might as well disclose how I resolved the situation. I already knew I could lift one side of these vans off the ground if the side door was open and I could lean into the interior as I lifted. I decided to resolve the situation the only way a PPP would understand, with some gorilla-esque chest thumping, appendage swinging, AMOGing (figuratively speaking, of course).

    I waited until they hauled me close to the van, then I suddenly switched from resisting them to assisting them so that all 8 of us (about 1100 pounds of human flesh) crashed into the van. The van rocked and I’d already grasped it underneath and lifted it until it was at tipping point. I roared as I lifted and the PPPs shrank away. I let the van drop back onto all 4 wheels and it bounced like a roo before coming to rest on the sidewalk. I roared and glared around me and the PPPs squealed and made themselves scarce.

    Is the ending as true as the rest of my story? You decide.

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    Yes, that is the way to resolve it.

    I do not always chest thump, but when I do, I really mean it.

    That approach has gotten me out of a bind or two over the years.

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  83. Farm Boy says:

    I don’t always post youtubes, but when I do,

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  84. Cill says:

    Okay, I take it from Farm Boy’s video that his answer to my question is, Yes, The Ending Can Only Be True.

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  85. Sumo says:

    Judging from the pipes in your avatar, I’m going to pull a Mythbusters and declare this one…plausible.

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  86. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I am thinking that New Zealanders have something in common with Texans, they can tell some mighty tall tales. Now, never doubt what a bear will tell you, as they have no tails.

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  87. theasdgamer says:

    @ Tarn

    But you can’t tell me that a 5’5″ tall man and woman of similar weight, muscle ratio, and zero fighting experience wouldn’t be on a close level in regards to the damage they could do to each other.

    Maybe these would occur in some fantasyland. In the real world, men have much greater muscle mass, pound for pound. And fighting experience as boys. And hand-eye coordination, spatial orientation, speed, and agility. Men have approximately 50% greater strength than women weighing the same amount. Men are more tactically-oriented.

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  88. Spawny Get says:

    Plenty of YouTube videos showing what happens when a drunken aggressive woman provokes a guy till he loses it. Usually one punch and she’s down. I’m not saying that there are no women that couldn’t beat a similar sized man…but there are far fewer than Buffy and Xena viewers believe.

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  89. Cill says:

    My congratulations to Farm Boy and Sumo for their well thought out “Yes” votes.
    Fuzzy gave a good “No” reply. I can’t say I agree with it entirely, but it was a good and deserving reply.
    I’m going to award prizes to you all because I’m an SWJ and everyone in my contests gets a chocolate fish: 🌯 🌯 🌯

    [Cill Self-edit: Hell no, that’s not fair! I’ll have to disclose a winner at some stage…]

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  90. Tarnished says:

    Cill,

    Plausible. I knew there’d have to be some kind of show of brutish force involved. Hence why I thought growling like a mad man was a suitable reaction. The only 2 times I had to defend myself from being groped in high school I switched from being…well, me…to a posturing, snarling Neanderthal. It was such an unexpected reaction that both times the boys backed away quickly and didn’t bother me again.

    Asdgamer,
    Given your response it would seem you didn’t read through my comment.

    Spawny,
    True. But I’m not talking about drunken idiots. Just sober, abusive women. Based on the opposite sex fights I saw in high school, where the girl and boy were the same size and neither had real fighting experience, by the time the teachers broke it up both opponents were bleeding and bruised. And yes, the females took punches but kept going same as the guys taking scratches across the face.

    If there’s any discrepancies in size, muscle ratio, or fighting experience that favors the male then yeah…he’s likely going to win in a fair fight. But then, he’d win against a smaller, less muscled, and less prone to violence male as well.

    Tl;dr
    All things being equal, I haven’t seen females beat males into submission (unless they kick them in the balls…then yes), but I’ve seen fights where both are giving what for and the female is holding her own. Individual experiences may vary, as usual.

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  91. blurkel says:

    “No other advice from my mates?”

    Well, Cill, I’m late to the party, but that’s how things go in my part of the world.

    I was once driving in Hollywood when a van full of young women pulled up next to me. As I’m not in the habit of initiating conversations with women I don’t know at a traffic signal, I wasn’t paying any attention, especially since someone who makes Shreck look like Spawny isn’t familiar with getting lots of hits from random women. It was only when one of them shouted out “Maybe he’s gay” that the light bulb went on.

    For a while, there was a group of young women who were putting out their version of pickup-porn videos, a trend started by a few Florida dopes with a site called BangBus. The one video of the females group I watched was essentially the same style as the Florida dopes, which is to pick someone up, use them sexually while someone videos, then dump them somewhere far away from where they were and/or where they were going.

    I don’t happen to know if the van full of young women (and frankly, I use that term loosely – they all made cows look small) was this same group with the videos, but when a situation looks too good to be true (such as when someone who makes Shreck look like Spawny gets propositioned by several young women – and in broad daylight on a busy street), the outcome can’t be good. I ran the light out of a desire to get away and leave them behind.

    Maybe it’s because I’m less trusting of people than many, but I tend to avoid groups who are looking at me, as your group of hussies had to have been looking at you. Anyone I don’t know with such visual connection can’t be up to any good.

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  92. Cill says:

    Tarn said “I knew there’d have to be some kind of show of brutish force involved.” Hahahaha! Where Cill is involved, brutality brutishness is inevitable. I’m going to be bold here, and claim “plausible” as an outright “Yes”. It’s now 3 to 1 in favour of Yes, The Ending Was True.

    @Brother Blurkel said “Anyone I don’t know with such visual connection can’t be up to any good.” Agreed, brother. It seldom bodes well. Theasdgamer is a lot more sanguine than we are.

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  93. Spawny Get says:

    Doesn’t matter if you know what the guy under discussion’s gig is. I don’t think I’ve ever made it through more than 20 seconds of any of his videos.

    The information about brain development is interesting. There’re a few people here at (or just beyond) the age of final brain maturation (mid to late twenties)…and there’s the old farts maturer types *cough*

    Whaddayareckon?

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  94. missattempts says:

    What’s so bad about that? Did you ever hear the Eagles song “Take It Easy.?”

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  95. Liz says:

    “All things being equal, I haven’t seen females beat males into submission (unless they kick them in the balls…then yes), but I’ve seen fights where both are giving what for and the female is holding her own. Individual experiences may vary, as usual.”

    Sophia, things are never equal when men and women fight. If a man hits a woman, 99 percent of the time…even if they are in the ring and she is asking for it, even if she’s literally on his head and pulling his hair out, people will consider him to be the aggressor and call him a pussy/boo/attack and/or have him arrested for it.

    Think of a cripple who likes to jump on people and hit them. Or a small chihuahua. Sometimes the chihuahua wins against the Doberman…because the Doberman isn’t allowed to fight back. Kids are the same, I never let my sons hit a smaller boy unless they absolutely had to…larger kid who is being an asshole, have at it.

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  96. Liz says:

    Another example: My oldest son boxes with my husband. They’re both in really good shape and my husband could easily beat him, but he doesn’t “give it his all”…though my son fights a lot harder. To the outside observer it looks like a pretty even fight, but it isn’t and my husband could easily punch him out if he wanted. That’s what you’re observing when a woman and man get in the ring.

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    Also, I think that a lot of the heavy muscle development occurs after school days. Maybe I was a later developer, but I’d say there’s still a long way to go from 16-17 y.o. for males

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  98. Liz says:

    “Also, I think that a lot of the heavy muscle development occurs after school days. Maybe I was a later developer, but I’d say there’s still a long way to go from 16-17 y.o. for males”

    That’s true. When I was a sixth grade teacher, most of the girls outweighed me even then, they were monsters, very formidable….can’t imagine how big they got by tenth or eleventh grade. After that, they probably just turned into jabba the hut, too big to move.

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  99. Tarnished says:

    I wasn’t initially talking about a ring or an actual competition, just fights in the hall at high school.

    In MMA or martial arts competitions that I’ve gone to from time to time, there’s women who beat men…but only in the same weight/experience class. (And in MMA women/men don’t get placed against each other, so these were unsanctioned fights after class.) That’s all I’m saying.

    There’s no Xena complex here. Simply an acknowledgement that some women are stronger/better fighters/more physically aggressive than men. Not all, and not a majority.

    Many people forget this, and try to say that men who are abused by their female partners are wimps or eunuchs, whereas that is *not* the case. This is what I’m trying to prevent people from saying. Women aren’t delicate little flowers who never raise their hands to anyone. Some are highly abusive and can seriously harm the men in their lives. It’s important for men and boys to have shelters to escape to, as well as support systems that don’t insinuate they’re “unmanly” for being hit.

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  100. Yoda says:

    Did you ever hear the Eagles song “Take It Easy.?”

    Indeed somebody here has

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2014/12/16/drama-what-is-it-good-for-absolutely-nothing/

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  101. Yoda says:

    After that, they probably just turned into jabba the hut, too big to move.

    Boyfriends they still get.
    Size matters not.

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  102. Yoda says:

    Simply an acknowledgement that some women are more physically aggressive than men

    Men aggression to women consequences it has.
    Women aggression to men consequences it has not.
    Big impact these facts have.

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  103. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,

    That’s my point.
    Until society recognizes the harm that women can do to men…however it’s accomplished…no one is going to take female-on-male violence seriously.

    Liz,
    Can I ask why you still call me “sophia”? It’s not been in my username for many months now…If it is all the same to you, I’d prefer Tarn like everyone else uses.

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  104. Farm Boy says:

    Why does the land of the Kiwis have so many FFFs (Feral Feminist Females) , many who morph into PPPs?

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  105. Tarnished says:

    Well, people *do* often forget to spay before letting them outside…
    😉

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  106. Farm Boy says:

    Well, people *do* often forget to spay before letting them outside,

    Bow your heads.
    Let us spay.

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  107. Cill says:

    At first glance I thought it said “Well, people *do* often forget to spray before letting them outside”. I had pictured an aerosol can with something like “PPPicide” written on the side…

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  108. Spawny Get says:

    “Bow your heads.
    Let us spay.”

    Hey! you just cured most of the man-spreading ‘issue’ with that.

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  109. Farm Boy says:

    What’s so bad about that? Did you ever hear the Eagles song “Take It Easy.?”

    I presume that you are referring to the original post, where a van full of FFFs/PPPs pulled up and accosted for the sake of some free sex.

    First of all, some men are not promiscuous. Some are married. Some are saving it for their future wives.

    The implied assumption is that if one person is horny, and they see another person that they find appealing, then they should just “get it on”. If that is the case, then if a man sees a woman that he wants, he should just take her right now.

    What is it that makes women different than men in this regard?

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  110. Tarnished says:

    Absolutely nothing.

    Much as certain people don’t want to admit, women can rape men.

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  111. Liz says:

    “Can I ask why you still call me “sophia”? It’s not been in my username for many months now…If it is all the same to you, I’d prefer Tarn like everyone else uses.”

    Sorry, Tarn. I called you that because your blog is called TarnishedSophia.

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  112. Cill says:

    Years ago I watched a TV show on the real-life work of security staff and police in downtown Auckland at night. There were several instances of female on male violence that were not taken seriously by security and police. Just to take one example:

    A stretch limo stopped in the street. Two brassy-looking women climbed out and attempted to grab hold of a man. He skipped out of their way. The women returned to the limo and this process repeated several times: the women in their limo stalking the man, climbing out and attempting to grab him, getting back in their limo and stalking him again.

    Finally the women managed to catch the man, and set about beating him up.
    The reaction of the security men was “Well, he probably deserved it.” From their prior background comments it was obvious that they had no knowledge of why the women were so determined to get that man. They just assumed that a woman wouldn’t attack a man unless he deserved it. Therefore they were witnessing well-deserved punishment, not a brutal assault.

    Our society approaches female on male rape this way too.

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  113. theasdgamer says:

    @ Cill

    They just assumed that a woman wouldn’t attack a man unless he deserved it.

    This is surprising because…?

    We know that western societies have pedestalized women relative to men, so women are automatically assumed to be righteous barring overwhelming info to the contrary. So the natural assumption when seeing a man being attacked by women is that he deserved it.

    Expose Pedestalization.

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  114. Farm Boy says:

    We know that western societies have pedestalized women relative to men

    There was an expectation that they would act up to the expectation placed on them. They do not do so today, but still claim that they are worthy of pedestalization.

    This “pedestalization” was partial compensation for taking the “submissive” role. Even though women are happier in this role, they normally don’t believe it (the FI in action), and needed some visible enticement to adopt it.

    In the olden days this was.

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  115. Liz says:

    Spawny, does it bother you that I call you Swithy?

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  116. Cill says:

    “This is surprising because…?”
    Did I say it was surprising?

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  117. Cill says:

    Liz,

    Call him Windsor, Tin Hat, Spawny, The Penguin, St Swithun, and next week he’ll be Moe of Parish Church, Private Bag, no doubt…

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  118. Liz says:

    😛
    Cill

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  119. theasdgamer says:

    @ TongueNotInCheek

    Heh.

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  120. theasdgamer says:

    Spawny, does it bother you that I don’t call you “Swithy”? Heh.

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  121. Cill says:

    I’m just trying to appeal to Spawny’s Pom sense of humor but he’s not biting. I think he’s preoccupied at the moment, so we can give him all shades of shit with impunity.

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  122. Liz says:

    Swarthy Swashbuckling Swithers Swimming Swiftly

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  123. Cill says:

    Would it bother him if we told him he does not have movie star good looks? Or that no amount of handsomeness will prevent his “Best Supporting Actor” Oscar (you know – the smaller one) being taken away from him for blatant plagiarizing of Barry Humphries?

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  124. Liz says:

    Hm. Just read Tarn’s ‘About my blog name’ post on her site.
    https://tarnishedsophia.wordpress.com/about-my-blogs-name/

    Fair enough, hadn’t read that before.

    [SG – well, there you go. I doubt she took it as an insult. My guess would be ‘unhelpful’ with others. I keep saying ‘UNICORN’]

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    “Spawny, does it bother you that I don’t call you “Swithy”? Heh.”
    Nope, not at all. You knew me as that pre-explosion. And neither name influences how anyone else new to meeting me would then treat me. (I think that maybe this is more Tarn’s point??? haven’t asked her, just a guess).

    Have you noticed that Tarn’s blog explicitly states that she believes herself to be a man’s mind in a woman’s body? As soon as I read that I ‘knew’ (this was never discussed between us) not to shorten her name to Sophia (even though it’s the natural thing to do. the most friendly too). TBH in all our correspondence I have never felt it useful to talk to Tarn as if to a woman, not even as a female INTJ. It is much more productive to talk to Tarn as you would to a man. That’s not because I’d expect any kick back if I did differently, but because that is truly how I think her mind works.

    Yeah, yeah, I use ‘she’ / ‘her’ etc. because…I don’t know for sure. Maybe if we met in real life it would help her pass in life? But I would always treat her as a guy to talk to. Have any of you ever seen anything to cause you to think of Tarn as a feminine woman? In male terms she would have had a pretty soft upbringing by society (I am NOT talking about within the family) and this is reflected in her somewhat idealistic attitudes. Put brutally, Tarn is a nice guy with a strong set of ethics (by which she lives). I am very happy to know such a person and call them friend.

    That’s where I’m coming from. Tarn is perfectly able to speak for herself. Given how long it’s taken me to write this (phone calls) perhaps she already has.

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  126. Spawny Get says:

    Hey Cill, I’m sorry you can’t handle My Movie Star Good Looks(tm). Can’t relate to them, prolly.

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  127. Spawny Get says:

    “Fair enough, hadn’t read that before.”

    her own name (real one) wouldn’t play out either. She’s privately told me she considered coming out as ‘Mottled Griselda’. Another ‘true’ story brought to you by Unca Spawny.

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  128. Sumo says:

    For the record, I am not at all offended if anyone calls me Sumo.

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  129. Cill says:

    Please ignore my previous frivolity.

    ” I have never felt it useful to talk to Tarn as if to a woman, not even as a female INTJ. It is much more productive to talk to Tarn as you would to a man”.

    I could have written those words myself. That’s exactly how I see it. I’d prefer to designate Tarn with male pronouns but I don’t because if I use “he”, “him”, “his” I’ll probably have to qualify it every single time as it goes against the commenters’ convention on her blog.

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  130. Cill says:

    My full name is Super Cillious Sarcophagus. People have called me Cilly for short, but not for long.

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  131. Spawny Get says:

    Hey Cill,
    have just had an email hawking wine, which caused me to realise I have you as a potential source of downunda wine recommendations.

    I really like Yellowtail Shiraz…which over here is climbing in price as the name is recognised. It’s not pricey, but it’s now getting on for double what I once got it for (not long ago).

    Got any other recommendations of that ilk that might be less known over here?

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  132. Tarnished says:

    Liz,
    No harm done. It was mostly a matter of curiosity. 🙂

    Cill,
    Strangely enough, it’s only other men who’ve ever told me that female-on-male rape is impossible.

    Please be cautious with the link below. It can be very emotional.

    https://tarnishedsophia.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/why-rape-is-seriously-hilarious/

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  133. Cill says:

    Spawny, rule of thumb for reds: Any Cabernet Sauvignon with Coonawarra on the label.

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  134. Spawny Get says:

    “Spawny, rule of thumb for reds: Any Cabernet Sauvignon with Coonawarra on the label.”

    Ta.

    Got any brand names? has to be big enough to export, but small enough not to have got a reputation over here (yet).

    I like shiraz and tempranillo, but Yellowtail Shiraz is my favourite that I’ve found so far.

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  135. Cill says:

    Yellow Tail “it’s now getting on for double what I once got it for (not long ago)”.

    For you it goes up. For me it comes down. Exchange rates.

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  136. Tarnished says:

    It’s a bit difficult to know what pronouns to use for me. I’d prefer male ones online, but they’d be highly confusing to use in real life. Even if I cut my hair like a man, my breasts and hips would give me away (unless I bound them really tight like I did in high school…ouch…or wore incredibly baggy clothes).

    In daily life, I am just accepted as a “hardcore tomboy” but have no qualms about casually mentioning that “I didn’t pick it” should anyone point out my sex. To be more in your face about it is what idiot SJWs do, and they certainly don’t speak for me.

    I also am aware that my gender dysphoria is considered by a number of manospherians to just be an “excuse” to try and “invade” (aka support) male spaces. It’s simply a part of my life to not be accepted everywhere, nothing anyone can do about it. I’m disallowed from being in some male-spaces since I’ve no penis…but I have no desire to be in female ones, since they are very different from me.

    Also don’t want any of my blog friends getting flak for “catering” to me by using male pronouns. It’s not worth it.

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  137. Spawny Get says:

    I’m sure we’re all aware of the need to minimise comment editing given our shared experience in the past. Can I request that if the writers do it they tag their editions like I do, so it’s known who is making the edit.

    e.g.
    [SG – …..]

    I do do it when I want to make explicit which comment I’m replying to. I’m not saying it’s an explicitly bad thing…just that it can go wrong and be perceived as a bad thing.

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  138. Cill says:

    Spawny: Trapiche Malbec from Argentina.
    [SG – same price as YT Shiraz…is it better?]?
    Some Argentina wine is crap, but the best are insanely low priced.

    From NZ: Taylors Promised Land Cabinet Sauvignon
    [SG – Getting Port for Taylor. I’ll look around]

    I’ve never struck a dud wine from Peter Yealand’s vineyards, either, A bit more pricey, but worth it.
    [SG – Nada for Yealand. I’ll look around. Thanks]

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  139. Cill says:

    ” It’s simply a part of my life to not be accepted everywhere”.
    You’re accepted here, Tarn, by me and Molly and Ezzie and Roy and Biff and co. We think you’re the best thing since desktops 🙂

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  140. Cill says:

    Spawny the emphasized words in Tarn at 19 January, 2015 at 6:16 pm must have been Tarn’s own. I certainly didn’t edit. When I first looked at it I thought it was an edit too.

    [SG – Tarn has the power. But you see my point? Who doned it?]

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  141. Tarnished says:

    Cill,

    Awwww. 🙂
    And yes, the bold part was me. I don’t want anyone, lurker or no, to experience anything bad. Flashbacks are no bueno.

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  142. Cill says:

    Spawny Trapiche Malbec from Argentina good as YT? If you like Malbec I’d say Yes. Give it a try. Gotta go 😉

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  143. Spawny Get says:

    ‘casually mentioning that “I didn’t pick it” should anyone point out my sex.’

    I do like that response. I like it a lot.

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  144. Spawny Get says:

    “Spawny the emphasized words in Tarn at 19 January, 2015 at 6:16 pm must have been Tarn’s ”

    Oh, just checked which comment. No, I meant that there has been a
    [Anonymous edit from beyond]
    in comments elsewhere.

    I didn’t mean what Tarn did at all. No problem there.

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  145. Yoda says:

    ” It’s simply a part of my life to not be accepted everywhere”

    Similar to garden variety man this would be.

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  146. theasdgamer says:

    @ Tarn

    Given your response it would seem you didn’t read through my comment.

    “Seem” being key. If a woman surprises a man with poison, stab in the back, etc., sure, she could prevail. A straight up fight–not hardly. Not even if she has a cast iron skillet. Avoid her swing, then clock her on the jaw. No problem.

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  147. theasdgamer says:

    @ Tarn

    I suspect that I tend to be demisexual in the sense that my inhibitions are much easier to deal with if I like a person.

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  148. Cill says:

    theasdgamer,
    I can understand that. I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t enjoy sex with a woman I didn’t like.

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  149. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Oh sure. Ask for favorite cigars, and they can’t be bothered. But someone brings up wine and y’all are all over it. Bunch of lushes. 😉

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  150. Tarnished says:

    While I disagree that all women have glass jaws, I agree that doing something so intimate as sex with someone you don’t like is…odd. How would you be demisexual though, asdgamer, given your comments about having sex with the PPPs in this very post?

    Or were you saying that other men should take them up on their “offer”?

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  151. Tarnished says:

    CP,
    Guilty as charged. 😛
    I will have to email Spawny my list of favorite drinks though, as they come from a local microbrewery in my area.

    Can’t have people triangulating where I live, eh?

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  152. Spawny Get says:

    Everyone knows where you live Tarn. End of the Rainbow, in Lollipop Land.

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  153. Spawny Get says:

    (That’s where unicorns come from)

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  154. Tarnished says:

    Hey, I didn’t always live here…I was previously the Mayor of Lifesucksville, but then my karma got rerouted in the form of my lover and job.

    That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it! 8)

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  155. Spawny Get says:

    CP, not like I’m gurna ask a Muriken about beer, is it?

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  156. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Spawny, I’d argue, but you’ve got me bang to rights. It’s a fair cop, but society is to blame.

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  157. Spawny Get says:

    Love the sense of humour CP.

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  158. Cill says:

    Spawny, I don’t know how much you pay for our wines in the U.K. Another good value for money winemaker here is Saints.

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  159. Spawny Get says:

    YT Shiraz is £46.50 for six bottles atm. Couple of years ago I got it for less than half that (special offer + vouchers). It’s the increase that stings more than the price.

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  160. Cill says:

    Do the world’s biggest grain-producing countries produce the world’s worst beers? China, India, Russia, U.S.A., Australia…

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  161. Spawny Get says:

    What a great question. We should all research the competition. Eastern Europe, England, Eire. Belgium, Holland, France, Germany. The real Budweiser Budvar is great. Pity the U.S. nicked the name, not the recipe.

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  162. Cill says:

    Okay, that’s about 150% of the retail price here. But the promotional price was only about 76% of the retail price here after shipping them half way around the planet. To get that sort of value for money you’d have to keep looking for promotional prices. On the other hand, there’s a glut of Aus & NZ wine due to bumper growing seasons. It’s difficult to know what’s going on from a distance.

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  163. Spawny Get says:

    I have a decent stock, I can play the long game.

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  164. Farm Boy says:

    Everyone knows where you live Tarn. End of the Rainbow, in Lollipop Land.

    Didn’t I see a picture somewhere of that…

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  165. Spawny Get says:

    I’m certain that some lollipops could be added. Perhaps a ‘pop plantation

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  166. Cill says:

    It comes back to the original rule of thumb. If you can acquire red wine from the Coonawarra region of Australia for less than 50 pounds per half dozen, you’re getting good value. A good brochure should always show Coonawarra if that’s where the grapes were grown, as it’s a major selling point. It’s difficult to go by the Winemaker’s name because e.g. Lindemans produces some Coonawarra wines and a lot that’s not.

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  167. Sumo says:

    Upset that wine is (currency converted to ’round these parts) $12 per bottle?

    I had no idea that Spawny was a Scot. 😀

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  168. theasdgamer says:

    @ Tarn

    How would you be demisexual though, asdgamer, given your comments about having sex with the PPPs in this very post?

    If I dint haff to due nuffink, I cud probly skweek bye. Mye inhibeeshuns wuden cum interplay.

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  169. Cill says:

    I’m with Sumo, because he’s a good cook.

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  170. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I can see why you have a fondness for Yellowtail Shiraz. It’s been an outstanding value for a long time. If I were in your shoes, I would seek the advice of the wine buyer of my favorite store. Considering where you are, a lot of stufff that is not available here is to you. Promotions and introductory specials do come up but, not on stuff you’re likely to be familar with.

    Tarn lives in Lollypopland? Taliking bears must live in Jellystone Park.

    Getting back on topic, I don’t know what can be done about these PPPs.They are terrible girlfriend material, never mind wife material.

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  171. Tarnished says:

    Asdgamer,
    Sir, we are only talking about alcohol…not guzzling it down! Your slurred speech is going to scare away the hot dancer chicks. 😉

    Fuzzie,
    They are terrible human being material. 😡

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  172. Yoda says:

    I had no idea that Spawny was a Scot.

    Scots like I do.
    Young Obi Wan a Scot he was.
    The older he got the more English be did become.
    Odd this was.

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  173. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny,
    I don’t think that I have seen a graph like Figure 3 in your link. Marriage is dead in NZ when the divorce rate is almost that of the marriage rate for tha last decade.
    Cill can go looking elsewhere. What is Molly going to do?

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  174. Cill says:

    “Young Obi Wan a Scot he was”
    But the Irish drink Guinness the old Obi Wan’s favorite it was.

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  175. Cill says:

    “Cill can go looking elsewhere”
    Can you blame me for avoiding the local women, Fuzzy? I’m getting the feeling that some of you guys are starting to understand. Some of the local women can get quite desperate, but as a MGHOW I don’t want any form of relationship.

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  176. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    You are at liberty to look elsewhere should you choose.
    I don’t know how this is all going to end as a social experiment. Why do I have the feeling that something awful is going to happen that nobody ever considered?

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  177. Cill says:

    I wonder if the current PPP situation in NZ is the world of tomorrow for North America and Europe – i.e. women more than twice as promiscuous as they are today? Or do factors exist that will prevent the women of North America and Europe going that far?

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  178. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I think that New Zealand is an anomoly. These women are going to clubs and meeting men. From what I hear about North America, the women are shutting down as many guys as possible to boost their egos and, then, going out for food with their gal pals.
    It’s weird and sick.

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  179. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie is correct. Take a look at this;

    http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Hate-Most-Women/1859101

    Now to be fair, this guy straight out admits to being a misogynist and seems to expect at least a bit of backlash. But like most mgtow he has many past experiences to back up his general dislike of woman kind.

    Check out the incredible shaming in the responses to him though…Small dick, must be feminine, not a man, can’t handle an independent woman, afraid of relationships, etc. It basically runs the entire gambit of language one can use to silence a male opinion.

    Pathetic that no one has any words of empathy, even if they disagree with his initial post.

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  180. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarn,
    What is going on at that site? In the linked post, the guy tells an all too common tale and he gets jumped on by trolls.
    I don’t think he hates women. I do think that he has gotten defensive. I wonder why?

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  181. Cill says:

    If he’d set out to extract the maximum venom from the commenters, he could not have done a better job.

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  182. Yoda says:

    can’t handle an independent woman

    For what reason to do this would he want?

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  183. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,
    Independent woman = entitled bitch in this case, not an actual adult who takes responsibility for their life/actions. Obviously you already knew this though.

    Cill,
    Agreed.

    Fuzzie,
    Same here. The vast majority of mgtow I’ve encountered aren’t actually hateful towards women (though some are). Most are simply angry, sad, and justifiably frustrated because nobody is listening to their problems. It’s a typical human response, not something scary and foreign.

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  184. Cill says:

    I agree that NZ is probably an anomaly. And it’s not working. The links focus on population statistics.
    “Man drought leaves many lacking romance… Many Kiwi women unable to find Kiwi men. For every 100 women looking to snag a New Zealand chap aged between 25 and 49, on average about nine will miss out”: http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/9598458/Man-drought-leaves-many-lacking-romance
    A 32-year-old Kiwi woman has as much chance of finding a partner her age as an 82-year-old… http://www.topnews.in/no-country-single-women-shortage-men-new-zealand-284650
    What the links don’t show is the number of men who have made themselves unavailable due to the behaviour of the women and the negative feminist environment. Men who are “single but not looking” are everywhere. Feminism, and the PPPs, simply won’t face up to this fact.

    A reaction that is less than adoring for the PPPs is something their narcissism won’t tolerate. So they become ever more predatory and aggressive and blind to reality… up to a point. That point is a man who sees their ugly nature, and shows it. A lot of men show it. I can’t go out on the town without seeing several examples of it every time. The prettiest face becomes invisible behind the in-your-face ugliness of the nature, and ugliness is the beginning of the end for the vain.

    I see it in the PPPs of yesteryear, now in their thirties and forties. There’s a quiet desperation about them. In a non-plussed, dromedary-faced way they are trying harder than before. Their behaviour towards men increasingly shows that the demand for us exceeds the supply. Perhaps they will come to realize, if they don’t know already, that their PPP years were a breathtakingly stupid mistake.

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  185. Farm Boy says:

    I wonder if it has occurred to the Kiwenches that what they are selling just really does not have a market. Doubling down on pitching the same product probably will not help.

    Probably they have little idea that there is (might have been) another way. This would be sad.

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  186. Farm Boy says:

    A reaction that is less than adoring for the PPPs is something their narcissism won’t tolerate.

    Is not narcissism one of the seven deadly sins? It sure is not doing them any good in the long term.

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  187. Farm Boy says:

    Are there any women in the world other than Tarn, Molly, Liz or Bloom that have a long term outlook? That understand what “future time orientation” means?

    MGTOWs do seem to understand “future time orientation”.

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  188. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarn, agreed.

    Cill,
    I don’t have any idea of what will work there. Time alone will tell.
    Given that you are “Johnny on the spot”, are the men there taking apss on local women and staying in on Saturday night? What objections are they giving?

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  189. Farm Boy says:

    Man drought leaves many lacking romance

    That headline makes it sound like there is a whole island full of “Mary Anns”. If that was truly the case, then I would hop on the next plane out there.

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  190. Farm Boy says:

    are the men there taking apss on local women and staying in on Saturday night? What objections are they giving?

    Perhaps a cost/benefit analysis.

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  191. Farm Boy says:

    The prettiest face becomes invisible behind the in-your-face ugliness of the nature

    This seems obvious.

    Perhaps the women believe that their appearance is the only thing that matters.

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  192. Tarnished says:

    Farm Boy,

    Actually the majority (not all) of the women I’ve spoken to in my life are pretty bad at looking forward to the future in concrete terms. They definitely have a general plan…graduate high school, go to college, get a job, find a guy to marry and have kids with. However, it usually ends there so they live in a constant fluctuation. If things don’t happen according to schedule, the dates simply get pushed back. And back. And back yet again.

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  193. Cill says:

    Fuzzy you might have missed my comment at 20 January, 2015 at 3:07 am

    Many of the men who are hunted by the PPPs are rejecting them. In addition, men tend to gather at places where women don’t expect them to be, or on private property e.g. homes, boats. There are countless articles in magazines, papers etc “Where are the men?”, “Where should I go to meet a man?”, “Everywhere I go I see attractive women and no men”, “We make ourselves pretty to go out, only to find we’re making up for each other because there are no men”. Walking around Auckland, I see restaurants filled with women and barely a man in sight.

    “What objections are they giving?” Stuff like “Not today, darling”, “Not interested”, “Fuck off”. Depends how extreme the woman’s pester is.

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  194. Sumo says:

    The more I hear about these PPP’s, the more tempted I am to head down to KiwiLand.

    Not because I think they have any redeeming qualities, but because I love the Aussie/Kiwi accent, and I’m not opposed to taking advantage of slutty girls for fun and profit.

    Yes, I’m a bad, bad man. I’m cool with that.

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  195. Farm Boy says:

    There are countless articles in magazines, papers etc “Where are the men?”, “Where should I go to meet a man?”, “Everywhere I go I see attractive women and no men”, “We make ourselves pretty to go out, only to find we’re making up for each other because there are no men”. Walking around Auckland, I see restaurants filled with women and barely a man in sight.

    Since you said that the real reasons are never mentioned in the press due to political correctness, the cognitive dissonance of these people must be staggering.

    Is there any press where the total truth sees the light of day?

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  196. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    There may be more than a desire for coconut cream pies in your interest in Mary Ann.

    Not that I think I am weird but, In my youth, I never developed any celebrity crushes or had fantasies or them.

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  197. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    With your last comment, it will be interesting to see the political correctnes go by the wayside and the truth hit the front page. It’s well past the point of sweeping under the rug.

    Cill,
    This may be the most undniable case of men going on strike that I have heard of.

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  198. Farm Boy says:

    I developed my “crush” on Mary Ann in my 20’s when I realized that my contemporaries were not wholesome. BTW, I was a baby when Gilligan’s Island debuted.

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  199. Cill says:

    “Is there any press where the total truth sees the light of day?”
    Nope. None. Zilch. They’d have to come to places like this post to see it. 😉

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  200. Farm Boy says:

    They’d have to come to places like this post to see it.

    So you are providing an essential service. You should feel proud of yourself.

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  201. Cill says:

    FB: All they get is empowering crap from the fembots.

    Sumo: That.Is.Badass
    Mwahahahaha! 😄

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  202. Yoda says:

    Fully characterize these women one might do.
    A good service this might be.
    Understanding the first step in dealing with the dark side it is.

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  203. Cill says:

    I think this says it all: When tourists arrive for our women, Kiwi men couldn’t give a damn. In terms of nature, that’s probably the greatest proof of profound indifference.

    The irony is, when the tourists have finished with the women all they want to do is get to know us. So they reject the company of the Kiwi women and head for the company of the men. AND… they tell us we deserve better women. They tell us all the disparaging things Kiwi women say about us behind our backs. It all serves to confirm that our decision to reject them was valid.

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  204. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I don’t think that I have ever seen anything that so thouroughly condemns local women. While Roosh is down on DC women, his version of local. It doesn’t begin to compare.

    Farm Boy,
    Sorry, I always associated Gilligan’s Island with childhood and afternoon TV. I think that it is still playing somewhere.

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  205. Cill says:

    “Fully characterize these women one might do.
    A good service this might be.
    Understanding the first step in dealing with the dark side it is.”

    If only! Trouble is, the MSM are the milksops of our most implacable enemies. Eventually into the dark side, beyond the www, we will have to go…

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  206. Wow Cill, that’s insane! Reverse (? Not the right word) sexual harassment for sure, as Tarn notes. Not ok.

    In addition to Liz’s fine suggestion I might add, “alright ladies! Ever since I got (insert random incurable festy Std or two) the ladies won’t touch me! Let’s party!” Or not, sounds like maybe even that might not deter that bunch. They might already have anything you mention. Yikes!

    My fiancé did show me a cop trick, you can put your arm around someone’s shoulder, all friendly looking, then press a pressure point near the collerbone/neck, he barely did it just to demonstrate and it darn near dropped me to my knees. I cant imagine at full pressure. And it looks harmless on camera, handy to avoid claims of police brutality. I’ll ask if there’s a name for it.

    Farm boy, ironically my beau said to me shortly after we started dating that I was “sexy in a Mary Ann rather than Ginger type way.” I immediately thought of you and comments about coconut cream pies! Lol. As a kid, I always thought Ginger with her vampy breathlessness and sparkly gowns was the height of femininity and felt somewhat sorry for the less flashy Mary Ann. Shows what I know! Think she was fashioned after Marilyn Monroe?

    Anyway cill, stay safe! Sounds like the kiwi women have gone round the bin! Maybe Sumo can get them straightened out! Lol. He makes whips you know! Sumo the she-kiwi-tamer! (Kidding of course, not endorsing actual violence.)

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  207. Yoda says:

    Mary Ann wholesome vibes she has.
    Ginger slut vibes she gives.

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  208. Spawny Get says:

    Cill,

    I think that the plausibility of your tale has been damaged by using the wrong avatar image. People think that you’re holding a baby there, it’s actually a full grown (normal sized guy) into fetish nappy wearing. (this bit may not be 100% accurate, but the next bit is accurate)

    iirc (and I do) you are actually 6’5 and weigh in at 245lbs…I really do think you could have a good go at tipping over some dinky minibus.

    I called you ‘yer big lug’ a few times, I wasn’t kidding.

    I sometimes get the feeling that I’m the only normal sized guy on the web. (obviously, Spawny defines ‘normal height’ as Spawny height plus/minus an inch at most.)

    Cill and a brother of his before their morning shave and manicure

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  209. theasdgamer says:

    Cill, I don’t feel like your tale is plausible. 😉

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  210. Tarnished says:

    Hey, Cill is the same weight as my FwB…but 3-4 inches taller. (I say 3-4 because I am pretty sure my love is shrinking in his “old age”, lol.)

    I know smaller guys who are built that could rock a van or lift an edge up with the proper leverage for a few seconds.
    My plausible vote from before is now a “yes”.

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  211. Liz says:

    Bloom: “As a kid, I always thought Ginger with her vampy breathlessness and sparkly gowns was the height of femininity and felt somewhat sorry for the less flashy Mary Ann. Shows what I know!”

    I thought the same. 🙂
    Maybe we were the product of ‘Barbie’ programming.
    I certaintly didn’t aspire to act or dress like Ginger, but I thought Ginger was ‘the good looking one’.

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  212. theasdgamer says:

    @ Tarn Not Sophia

    Sir, we are only talking about alcohol…not guzzling it down! Your slurred speech is going to scare away the hot dancer chicks.

    Where’s the fun in only talking about alcohol? (hic) Alcohol, like beautiful women, is to be guzzled!

    Meh, no hot dancer chicks last night. The stew didn’t show up.

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  213. theasdgamer says:

    @ Liz

    I certaintly didn’t aspire to act or dress like Ginger, but I thought Ginger was ‘the good looking one’.

    I felt the same way when I was young. Now, I’d take MaryAnn over Ginger in a heartbeat. Once the minimum level of looks is met, sweetness and warmth take priority.

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  214. Tarnished says:

    Spawny,

    I just watched your recent video above…All the examples were unnerving, but can anyone tell me what the heck was going on in the classroom segment? It was absolutely surreal!

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  215. theasdgamer says:

    Mrs. Gamer has dropped below the min. level of looks (her face has widened), as well as being cold, selfish, and b1tchy. We have transitioned to an Open Marriage by mutual agreement. I am content. No more pushing women away or keeping distant from them for me.

    Note that the lack of sweetness and warmth has not helped Mrs. Gamer’s attractiveness.

    Condolences are totally unnecessary. I am content.

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  216. Cill says:

    Spawny at 20 January, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    You accurately present my vital statistics there, mate, but the 2 characters in your picture are of yourself as Best Supporting Actor of yourself in “My Handsome Handsome Ways”, an autobiographical portrayal of yourself filmed circa 1949. You might not remember it after all these years, it was billed as one of the most forgettable movies of all time.

    When viewed as a comedy, however, it made more sense.

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  217. Spawny Get says:

    Carry on Screaming. A film I really recommend. The characters are OddBod and OddBod Junior, so which one is which depends on whether he’s an older brother of yours or younger.

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  218. Tarnished says:

    “…it was billed as one of the most forgettable movies of all time.”

    Heh. 😉

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  219. Cill says:

    AND THE WINNERS ARE…

    Farm Boy, Spawny, Tarn, Sumo, you are correct! The ending of my story is factual.
    (https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2015/01/18/how-to-handle-the-ppps-predatory-promiscuous-princesses/comment-page-1/#comment-8291)

    I did lift up the side of the van until it was almost at tipping point. The 2 wheels on the side I lifted were both off the ground.

    It seems I could have worded my comments a little better. Some of you got the impression I was admitting to a fib. Also you didn’t know my vital statistics until Spawny let the cat out of the bag at 20 January, 2015 at 2:46 pm.

    My story was true from beginning to end.

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  220. Tarnished says:

    Hooray!
    A majority of us win!

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  221. Yoda says:

    you are actually 6’5 and weigh in at 245lbs

    Size matters not.
    What is inside matters it does.

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  222. Tarnished says:

    This is true.
    Cill wouldn’t be Cill without his liver, kidneys, heart, or pituitary gland…

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  223. Cill says:

    Yoda, yep! XX-L inside and out, is me 😀

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  224. Spawny Get says:

    “Cill wouldn’t be Cill without his liver, kidneys, heart, or pituitary gland…”

    (After they dropped him on his head) I hear they stuck his feet in a plant pot full of Marmite.

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  225. Spawny Get says:

    After they dropped him on his head – I mean, look at his head in the image with his brother…ain’t natural man, it sure ain’t.

    Side view

    (Molly’s looking good)

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  226. Cill says:

    Tarn 20 January, 2015 at 3:51 pm (contd): … or prostate or testicles or vas deferens…

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  227. Cill says:

    “A majority of us win!:
    It couldn’t have happened to nicer people 🙂

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  228. Spawny Get says:

    Congrats on a rather successful post, Cill. Lots of views and comments in a short time.

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  229. Cill says:

    Spawny, your side view picture is of you playing supporting actor, second fiddle to yourself. (The first fiddle was already had by her yourself)

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  230. Cill says:

    Thanks mate. I withdraw my comment at 4:12 pm.

    [SG – might that be premature? Might be some fun left to be had, wouldn’t want you missing out due to premature withdrawal]

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  231. theasdgamer says:

    Last night I was chatting with one woman in dance class, then saw another woman friend approaching whom I wanted to chat with and who might be leaving, so I turned to face the second woman and the first one yanked my arm to get my attention to show me a pic of her grandchild holding a pet.

    Imagine. She yanked my arm.

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  232. Tarnished says:

    “It couldn’t have happened to nicer crazier people.”
    Fixed it for you!

    “…or prostate or testicles or vas deferens…”
    Or Cowper’s gland, or seminal vesicles!

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  233. Cill says:

    As long as that’s all she yanked, asd.

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  234. Cill says:

    “Or Cowper’s gland, or seminal vesicles!”
    Now Tarn, that’s taking it too far! 😉

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  235. theasdgamer says:

    @ Cill

    Reminds me of an old joke about Gomer Pyle saying that he was gonna stick his finger in a girl’s belly button. She said, “Gomer! That ain’t my belly button.” Gomer replied, grinning, “Shizaam! That ain’t my finger, neither.”

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  236. Tarnished says:

    But…but…I haven’t even said “epididymus” or “navicular fossa” yet! 😛

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  237. Cill says:

    Tarn tch, tch, tch…

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  238. Cill says:

    Brandine: “Gomer, do we have to do it outside your uncle’s house?”
    Gomer: “He’s your uncle too, Brandine.”

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  239. theasdgamer says:

    @ Cill

    “He’s your uncle too, Brandine.”

    Reminds me of a female 2nd cousin who likes to kiss all her relatives on the lips. Pretty for an old bag, but stilldrutherknot.

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  240. theasdgamer says:

    I should add that she still turns heads and is a few years younger than me and has a killer figure. But I don’t want to think about where those lips have been.

    At least she doesn’t slip me the tongue. P

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  241. Liz says:

    theasdgamer: “Shizaam! That ain’t my finger, neither.”

    You forgot to add the last part of the punchline.
    “Surprise, surprise, surprise.” 😛

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  242. theasdgamer says:

    @ Liz

    I have to wonder where your tongue has been as well. P

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  243. Tarnished says:

    Liz’s tongue has been to the Hagia Sophia, the Taj Mahal, and the Forbidden City… 😛

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  244. Cill says:

    This is altogether too saucy for my tender ears…

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  245. Sumo says:

    AND THE WINNERS ARE…

    Farm Boy, Spawny, Tarn, Sumo, you are correct! The ending of my story is factual.

    The Mighty Sumo always wins.

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