The Red Pill Classroom — The Feminine Imperative


This is the third entry in a series that explains red-pill terms.

Women want resources and they want privileges.  More so than men it would seem.  Why might this be?  Perhaps it is because they are effectively incapacitated when pregnant and maybe even more so after delivery.  Without resources and/or privileges to make it through these periods, life is really difficult.  But being physically weak and often incapacitated lends itself  to using an indirect approach.  Mainly a “cajole and nibble around the edges” approach.  Keep pushing until there is push back.  This is what women have done in modern times, with little push back.

Being weak individually also lends itself to the idea of banding together into groups for safety.  This is the core of the feminine imperative.  Women naturally band together when working on obtaining resources in the large (e.g. welfare, other subsidies).  In the USA, this was mainly brought forth by the constitutional amendment allowing women to vote.  One can see the results in the present day; the outright pandering to women by politicians (the War on Women).

Of course women in small groups will battle each other for resources and privileges also.  One might ask if this negates the idea of the Feminine Imperative.  It does not.  The desire for resources and privileges is strong, and can manifest itself differently under different contexts.   When working for societal based privileges, women put aside their differences, as fighting is counter productive.

As a closing challenge, I ask the question : “Can anyone come up with an instance where men as a whole, work to advance the general man cause?”

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62 comments on “The Red Pill Classroom — The Feminine Imperative
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps society thinks that the idea of a “man cause” is ludicrous.

    Perhaps women think that the idea of a “man cause” is ludicrous.

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  2. Yoda says:

    If men are not healthy, women are healthy not.

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    Spawny,

    Could you please create a RedPillClassroom category?

    Thanks

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  4. Yoda says:

    Spawny,

    Time in classroom you should do.
    MGTOW a fine topic it would be.

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  5. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda,
    the thing is I don’t have very strong opinions on MGTOW other than rejecting gynocentrism (so marriage is out) and maybe protecting yourself. I was all chill, man. Till that XXXL sized fucknut tried to deny any relevant meaning to the term. I can very easily see married hipster manginas truly believing they’re going their own way…can’t you?

    It may not be mine to define, but it certainly isn’t his to destroy as a meaningful term.

    Anyway, it’s been a long day and I’m gonna go chill. No more meaning from me tonight,

    I’ll think about it, your idea, And by the way, thanks very much for the stream of posts recently. Especially welcome as I took a bit of a break. The benefits of a community.

    I tagged this post as redpillclassroom. So, it’s available to you now.

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  6. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    There is no “Team Man” dedicated to advancing men’s issues. It may go back to evo-psych, but men operate individually andin competition while women operate communally.
    It’s my opinion that the feminine imperative has been advanced too far at the expense of men. This may lead to something unprecedented, women easing up on men so they can come back.

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  7. Yoda says:

    I don’t have very strong opinions on MGTOW other than rejecting gynocentrism

    Opinions one needs not.
    Explain what is is what you do.

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  8. Yoda says:

    I can very easily see married hipster manginas truly believing they’re going their own way…can’t you?

    As long as Mom and Dad pay for it they will.

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  9. Yoda says:

    may lead to something unprecedented, women easing up on men so they can come back.

    Likely this is not.
    Go down with the ship women will.

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    I tagged this post as redpillclassroom.,

    Could you perhaps make it a category?

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    Let’s play a game: Real or Satire?

    “I want to see queer and trans people of color with radical social and political analyses dominate independent media by creating and growing our own platforms, so we can centralize and control our own narratives.”

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  12. Cill says:

    ” I can very easily see married hipster manginas truly believing they’re going their own way…can’t you?”

    I sure can, and I said so months ago. Can’t remember where. I could see it coming. Something like “Without even knowing it, idiot men have been suckered by Hermione. Now they will earnestly apply themselves to the next stage of the fembot’s work, by dividing us”.
    And… so they are. Idiot dickhead automatons.

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  13. Spawny Get says:

    My bad on the category. I meant to do what you asked in the first place.

    Where was the standing stone photo taken Farm Boy?

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  14. Spawny Get says:

    I remember the pride that was expressed over the fact that women opened the avfm conference…and thinking WTF? And WBB. And the speed women were promoted. Poor judgement.

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    I’m going to vote Real, Farm Boy

    G’night all

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  16. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Toda at 11:34pm,
    Jar Jar isn’t about to go near that. Do you rememer how he worked with Padme? He knows what a stable woman is like.
    Reading that, it reminded me that Roosh, a DC metro resident, had good reason to check out the wider world. DC has always attracted young ladies to the point where demographics were in favor of men. That is, until feminism.
    That might be a good topic for a post., how feminism can overcome demogrphics to allow for a female dominated SMP even when numbers aren’t in their favor.

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    Where was the standing stone photo taken Farm Boy?

    Aye Laddie, it would be Scotland. Specifically the Mainland in the Orkney Islands near Stromness, looking to the Northwest.

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  18. Spawny Get says:

    GWW in the comments

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  19. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I wish that Paul Elam and his cohrts hadn’t gone down this path. There is only acrimony for us and jollies for the fembots.

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  20. Yoda says:

    Toda at 11:34pm

    An amalgamation of Tarn and Yoda this would be?
    Pretty it would be not.

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  21. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    I apologize for the typos.

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  22. Yoda says:

    Green and tan mix they do not.
    Kermit and Fozzie’s Dad an example he would be.

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  23. Yoda says:

    Fozzie Bear like I do.

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  24. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Fozzie and Kermit are identical twins???

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  25. Spawny Get says:

    From Karen Straughn / GirlWritesWhat’s comment. This is why she should (IMHO) start moving back to her own blog.

    karen straughan13 hours ago

    IMO, MRAs are not wrong in describing MGTOW as radical. They’re wrong in their use of the term as synonymous with “extremist”. “Radical” refers to fundamental and basic beliefs, core beliefs, “root” beliefs, not fringe ones.

    While I think it’s probably wise for MGTOWs like yourself to be aware of what’s transpiring in the MRA community, and while I think it’s entirely reasonable for you to feel vilified by some of their recent judgments regarding MGTOW (at least as expressed by people like yourself and Stardusk and Sandman), I see no reason why a group of men who simply say, “fuck women (or other men who want me to be something I don’t care to), I’m looking out for number one” deserves to be condemned as extremist. MGTOW is little more than a full embrace of nonviolent, noncoercive individualism.

    The mistake most people make is that they feel this is merely a problem of the law, or social norms. This point of view necessarily must ignore the role of women in shaping social norms and the law, and, even if “not all women are like that”, the willingness of the majority of women to go along with it because it does or could benefit them.

    This is, in my opinion, the essential argument of MGTOW. Since first wave feminism, despite the opposition of many women (including female judges as early as the 1920s) to the iniquities of the system as they harm men, the “non-exceptional” woman, the typical woman, has welcomed and embraced all of the changes in their favor, regardless of how these changes have made their sons vulnerable to exploitation and abuse.

    There has always been a small contingent of radical, exceptional women who were able to say, “this is unfair to men” all the way back to the alimony reform movements of the early 20th century. There has always been a small contingent of radical women who pushed for ever more reforms, regardless of how their reforms made men vulnerable to harm and exploitation.

    But who has the “everywoman” sided with? What has the “everywoman” done? The non-radical, non-exceptional woman has consistently sided with feminist-won benefits and privileges, with little concern for men until the moment they were victimized by the changes through a man they love.

    The “everywoman” has behaved like a sheep, every bit as much as the typical blue pill man, with the only difference being that the “everywoman” was looking out for herself alone, while the blue pill man was largely looking out for the “everywoman” as well as himself.

    Anyway. Not sure what my comment is, other than a stream of consciousness triggered by your video. 

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    From Karen Straughn / GirlWritesWhat’s comment. This is why she should (IMHO) start moving back to her own blog.

    karen straughan13 hours ago

    IMO, MRAs are not wrong in describing MGTOW as radical. They’re wrong in their use of the term as synonymous with “extremist”. “Radical” refers to fundamental and basic beliefs, core beliefs, “root” beliefs, not fringe ones.

    While I think it’s probably wise for MGTOWs like yourself to be aware of what’s transpiring in the MRA community, and while I think it’s entirely reasonable for you to feel vilified by some of their recent judgments regarding MGTOW (at least as expressed by people like yourself and Stardusk and Sandman), I see no reason why a group of men who simply say, “fuck women (or other men who want me to be something I don’t care to), I’m looking out for number one” deserves to be condemned as extremist. MGTOW is little more than a full embrace of nonviolent, noncoercive individualism.

    The mistake most people make is that they feel this is merely a problem of the law, or social norms. This point of view necessarily must ignore the role of women in shaping social norms and the law, and, even if “not all women are like that”, the willingness of the majority of women to go along with it because it does or could benefit them.

    This is, in my opinion, the essential argument of MGTOW. Since first wave feminism, despite the opposition of many women (including female judges as early as the 1920s) to the iniquities of the system as they harm men, the “non-exceptional” woman, the typical woman, has welcomed and embraced all of the changes in their favor, regardless of how these changes have made their sons vulnerable to exploitation and abuse.

    There has always been a small contingent of radical, exceptional women who were able to say, “this is unfair to men” all the way back to the alimony reform movements of the early 20th century. There has always been a small contingent of radical women who pushed for ever more reforms, regardless of how their reforms made men vulnerable to harm and exploitation.

    But who has the “everywoman” sided with? What has the “everywoman” done? The non-radical, non-exceptional woman has consistently sided with feminist-won benefits and privileges, with little concern for men until the moment they were victimized by the changes through a man they love.

    The “everywoman” has behaved like a sheep, every bit as much as the typical blue pill man, with the only difference being that the “everywoman” was looking out for herself alone, while the blue pill man was largely looking out for the “everywoman” as well as himself.

    Anyway. Not sure what my comment is, other than a stream of consciousness triggered by your video. 

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    And

    karen straughan11 hours ago

    +tremblay236 I’m sorry, but from the time of Susan B. Anthony and before, women have acknowledged their role as the moral arbiters of social norms. If the “everywoman” was so dead set against these injustices, certainly more of them would be able to effectively speak out against them–yet every single change in gender relations for the last 165 years, on every level from social to legal to economic–has been in favor of women and at the expense of men.

    Societies engineered from the top down, and which go against basic human nature, simply do not last that long–look at the communist experiment, and how short-lived it has been compared to feminism. Surely an argument can be made that communism when applied to social class is a non-starter, while communism applied to gender is…. well, certainly the “everywoman” might disagree with aspects of it, but not vehemently enough to change anything. To be frank, while the majority of women might see default mother custody and draconian child support laws as unjust, it’s just not “unjust enough” to get them out of bed, let alone out on the street in protest, and it certainly won’t drastically affect how they vote.

    There have been, and still are, dedicated, honorable women fighting the good fight, but they are and always have been fewer than those fighting for female supremacy. The rest, the everywomen who sortakinda feel like some things are unfair to men… well, they don’t matter. They just don’t.

    As far as the men who support feminism go, well, men are not well-situated to fight its adverse effects. Every man in society could support feminism, but if a majority of women got off their asses and fought against it with the same dedication as the feminists who fight in its favor, we all know who would win, and it wouldn’t be the men.

    I am not in denial regarding conspiracies. However, for a conspiracy to be able to capture an entire society for the length of time feminism has held sway, it has to speak to natural inclinations. Feminism has been successful not because of the depth and breadth of some social engineering conspiracy that may, indeed, exist, but because it appeals to both men and women in large numbers.

    Feminism has proved itself longer lived and more tenacious than either communism or McCarthyism. The answer to that is not that it’s simply a more skillful attempt at social engineering, but that it speaks to the natural psychology of both men and women, even if it’s based on lies.

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  28. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I am beginning to understand why Karen has not fully embrace AVfM.
    Elsewhere, I wrote that women are presenting men with a “Take it or leave it” ultimatum. MGTOWs are in the van of men choosing to leave it.

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  29. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Off topic but of interest. Accusations of rape have been leveled at Alan Dershowitz.

    http://www.cotwa.info/2015/01/prof-dershowitz-goes-on-offensive-to.html

    Could this be when it all hits the fan?

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  30. Spawny Get says:

    I’m interested in Karen’s views, but I doubt she’ll be very talkative. One of the YouTube links had her comments, they were not exactly in line with avfm. But weren’t looking to make trouble.

    I hope that the good people start making outside arrangements. Even if they don’t publicly head for the exit. One of the honey bangers did leave recently, I have NO idea if theres any link with internal politics. No idea.

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  31. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Being Monday, it will be interesting if AVfM has their “Intelligence Report” show on youtube. I think they have missed thae last three weeks because of Tara Palmatier going on vacation and the holidays.

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Interesting thought, Fuzzie

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  33. Yoda says:

    Elsewhere, I wrote that women are presenting men with a “Take it or leave it” ultimatum.

    AVFM stands where it does?

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    Dunno about avfm, I left it.

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  35. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Well, it’;s 8:23pm Eastern time. I don’t think that Paul is going to do his Monday program AGAIN.

    Spawny Get,
    That John the Other can laugh about what is going on when he dedicated years to building worries me. Ne jmnay be right about one thing, that Paul is trying to gain credibility with the mainstream media to be an on call men’s rights spokesman.
    Those MGTOWs do upset the womenfolk by threatening to not step into the harness.

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  36. Farm Boy says:

    Those MGTOWs do upset the womenfolk by threatening to not step into the harness.

    How much of a threat do they perceive it?

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  37. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    I do wish that we could get a straight answer to that question. I have learned thai it is not wise to ask.

    Spawny Get,
    If Paul Elam has gone nutso, it is a litle scary. Nobody is doing what AVfM is doing and he is the sole proprietor.

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  38. Cill says:

    Fuzzy & FB
    It’s a dichotomy. One side of it we already know. The other is along these lines:

    http://acculturated.com/2013/02/15/where-have-all-the-good-men-gone-ask-the-women-too/

    To my great disappointment that link is defunct. It was amongst the first things I ever read about MGTOW when I first encountered the subject. It was a defiant, in-your-face, individualistic statement. I wish I’d copied it.

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  39. Cill says:

    Looking back on it, I encountered that link before I’d any reason to be interested in MGTOW. I’ll try to find it elsewhere.
    .

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    New post up

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    FuzzieBear

    That article gets some things right, but many things wrong

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  42. Cill says:

    Fuzzy,

    Fuzzy, yes

    As i recall, the convo was between a woman who (later revealed) was nearing the end of her life, and “Jim”

    http://acculturated.com/where-have-all-the-good-men-gone-ask-the-women-too/#comment-1630

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  43. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    There was a prompt when I tried to link that got me there.

    Farm Boy,
    “Where have all the good men gone?” is a simple question with complex answers. From my point of view, women have elevated themselves so high, they can’t see them.

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  44. Cill says:

    It (http://acculturated.com/where-have-all-the-good-men-gone-ask-the-women-too/#comment-1630) is now ancient history for me. Looking back on it, I’m left wondering why it made such an impact on me. At the time, I’d not struck anything quite like it before. Otherwise it’s not worth revisiting.

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  45. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    This is what opened the door for me.

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  46. Cill says:

    She has the power of “delivery”. Some people just have the gift. I don’t. I’m good at example in action, but not “delivery”. Does the future belong entirely to “delivery”?

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  47. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    Everyone is different and we all have something to contribute. I ahve not seen her write poetry. To add to that, her out puit has been in decline since she no longer has her kitchen for a backdrop. 😉

    Oh, please tell Molly that she is missed.

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  48. Cill says:

    “her output has been in decline since she no longer has her kitchen for a backdrop”.
    The bear packs a lot of meaning in there.

    I asked Molly to take a break with her family and friends.

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  49. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    She has moved since she did the bulk of her work from a rental to a fixer upper.

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  50. Cill says:

    Not sure what you mean there Fuzzy. Peace.

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  51. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I was referring to Karen Straughan. She inheirited a house that has needed a lot of work.
    Sorry for the confusion.
    Do you think we could send her a message to encourage her to set up her new kitchen as a recording studio for her videos?

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  52. Cill says:

    I see what you mean. Karen is impressive from a kitchen!

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  53. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Good night, Cill. It’s way past this bear’s bedtime.

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  54. Cill says:

    Good night Fuzzy. It’s middle of the arvo here. See you tomorrow.

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