Hypergamy Unleashed – Dark Clouds Gather


Of course the Patriarchal Scheme outlined in the last installment was not as idyllic as it seemed.  But then all of life was harder then, and all people made compromises.  However, it worked in the sense that Mothers and Fathers could be happy, and children could grow up in a healthy environment.  Make note of the children, for they are ultimately the biggest losers in this saga.

The 1950’s were prosperous.  The USA was the only well functioning economy left after the War, and life continually was getting better.  The Patriarchy kept things running smoothly and efficiently.  Men went to work, women had jobs like teachers, nurses and secretaries.  But mostly, the women concentrated on being good mothers.  There were general productivity improvements, and people had excess time and wealth.  An implicit question continually arose, “How should people individually, and the nation as a whole, invest these excess resources?”   Alternately, and more ominously the question was implicitly asked, “The present system is efficient and structured.  Does it have to be so?”   

Consider the system of the era.  Fathers were responsible for their families.  This made them work hard, because the families were theirs (Dalrock’s Patriarchal Dividend).  They had pride in them.   Extra-marital sex was considered to be very bad as it was home-wrecking.  And home-wrecking was bad for the family, the children, and society (and its efficiency).  Pre-marital sex was bad, as it decreased women’s ability to bond with their eventual husbands, which was bad for the family, the children and society (and its efficiency).  Men had desires, and marrying young helped satisfy them, which led to children (and the Patriarchal Dividend).  Women were encouraged to be the finest mothers they could be.  It was a fine role.  The raising of fine well adjusted children should be a very satisfying endeavor.

One more point about societal efficiency: societies in times past that were not particularly efficient often were conquered.  This was an encouragement to at least try to be efficient.  At the start of the 1960’s, there was the sense that “conquering” would never happen again.  If there was war, all societies would die.  One only needed be a society to be efficient enough to make this happen.  And this was relatively easy to do through thermo-nuclear weapons.

For the next installment, consider where the excess was eventually “invested”?

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164 comments on “Hypergamy Unleashed – Dark Clouds Gather
  1. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    I have been thinking about the Patriarchal Dividend. The only reason that it lost weight was because it was devalued. At about this time, productive output lost out to consumption as a spur to the economy. I am beginning to see that there is a gendered component to this.

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  2. theasdgamer says:

    If you’re discussing the reasons for the financial success of the 50’s, you have to consider the Baby Boom. The Baby Boom drove the economy.

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  3. theasdgamer says:

    Also, with women paying more attention to keeping the house clean, coincidentally there was less incidence of allergies and other immune disorders.

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  4. Yoda says:

    Being a good Mother satisfies not.
    Odd this is.

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  5. Yoda says:

    The only reason that it lost weight was because it was devalued.

    From “appreciated” to “expected” it went.
    Big difference this is.

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  6. Yoda says:

    Also, with women paying more attention to keeping the house clean, coincidentally there was less incidence of allergies and other immune disorders.

    Cleaning house against feminism it did immunize.
    Making sammiches better for this it was.

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  7. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    “From ‘appreciated’ to ‘expected’ it went.”
    Presuming that we are talking about the Patriarchal Dividend, How can it now be expected when there is no incentive?

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  8. Yoda says:

    How can it now be expected when there is no incentive?

    Borrow from China one could.

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  9. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    This “borrowing from China” cannot last indefinitely. First, they’ll have a good reason to want their money back. Second, it has to burn a Chinese worker to go at it as hard as he does, make a fraction of what we pull down, and manage to save so that, we can borrow to finance our lifestyle.
    After scratching my head for a while, I don’t think single men are responsible for the second objection.

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  10. Yoda says:

    Second, it has to burn a Chinese worker to go at it as hard as he does, make a fraction of what we pull down, and manage to save so that, we can borrow to finance our lifestyle.

    “Our lifestyle” you say.
    “Women’s lifestyle” it is.

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  11. Yoda says:

    Yoda minimal lifestyle he has.
    Many investments he does have.
    Considered to be wrong this is.

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  12. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    While I suspect that women are more willing to accrue debt, have you ever seen anything that breaks down debt with respect to gender and marital status? I haven’t.
    If what I suspect is true, the threat to the economy is worse than before the housing crash.

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  13. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    “Considered to be wrong this is.”
    Living within your means, wrong??? Aiding someone who has a plan to create wealth by lending your surplus, wrong???
    Those who would label you wrong have forgotten where money comes from.

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  14. Yoda says:

    If what I suspect is true, the threat to the economy is worse than before the housing crash.

    Women only victims they can be.
    Causes of bad events they are not.

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  15. Yoda says:

    Those who would label you wrong have forgotten where money comes from

    From China it does come.

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  16. Yoda says:

    While I suspect that women are more willing to accrue debt

    Expect a bailout they do.
    Men expectations for this less they are.

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  17. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    “Expect a bailout they do.”
    In the last round, it was all the government could do to bailout enterprises that, for the most part, had the ability to repay over time. The last I heard about student loan debt, it was well above one trillion with most of owed by women who’s choice of degrees does not make renumerative sense in light of six figure debt.
    They are looking to the government for relief. They are going to make it a woman’s issue.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the homeowner greed prior to the housing crash was also fueled by women.

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  18. Spawny Get says:

    They’re going to bail out students by printing the money or using tax. They must do otherwise a LOT of liberal ‘academics’ are going to be out on their arse. There aren’t any other employment positions for these useless ideologues above barista. And who needs a misandric, scowling, sour faced old bag making your coffee?

    These people make for shite journalists, as we have seen recently. They have an agenda, they just search for the first tale that enables them to push it, no verification required because the facts aren’t the point, they’re irrelevant, it’s the agenda that they’re pushing; the vagenda that counts. That’s not journalism.

    They’re no use for research because all they know how to do is allege support for their worthless dross by referencing other people’s worthless dross. And it’s worthless dross all the way down in many cases. This is why they defend each other to the death, rabidly. because they know that once someone starts pulling on the loose threads…their whole sack of shit is going to fall apart.

    Same thing with the CAGW scam. Worse in fact, because those guys pretend to be real scientists.

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  19. Spawny Get says:

    We’re not going back though. Not to the glorious ‘normal guy as provider pack mule’ patriarchy.

    Being a SAHM is not a full time job any more. They attempt to justify it by becoming helicopter mums. But housework is no more than a part time job. Women got bored in the fifties because mechanisation made the job too easy. This was when docs started handing out anti-depressants to women like candy. It’s the source of ‘The feminine mystique’

    The Feminine Mystique begins with an introduction describing what Friedan called “the problem that has no name”—the widespread unhappiness of women in the 1950s and early 1960s. It discusses the lives of several housewives from around the United States who were unhappy despite living in material comfort and being married with children.

    …the spoiled princesses were bored. And incapable of generating ways of finding fulfillment, so they (as children do) whined to daddy to fix the problem. Only ‘daddy’ was government and government was and is a mangina looking for easy votes from easy to dupe herds.

    And I actually have sympathy for the feeling of boredom. The problem was the way the whole of society willingly self sacrificed in a futile attempt to stop the whining. Once you have laws over equal pay and open up jobs to all that are equally capable (mentally and physically) of doing it…job is done. Pander to women whining? The whining is endless. Just look around you to see the proof. Now it’s misogyny to not pander to every whim, or to even question their privilege.

    Men had it bad too. I have no interest in working til I drop to keep a woman at home with the kids, the tv and the bon-bons. Married with children wasn’t entirely comedy, it had many horror aspects too. I hated the Peg character at many points. The biggest tragedy of Al was that he woke up too late, the second biggest was he never did anything of consequence about the problem.

    We are not going back to the 50s. And if you want to see cities aflame, slap that bachelor tax on men. In the UK women already have routes to benefits that men don’t (life as a state supported single mum, chief among them, but also female shelters, much, much fewer male ones).

    UKIP is more popular among men than women. A part of that, I reckon, is that men are more likely to be resenting the current incompetent regime (of any of the main parties of old) that pushes the feminist line in order to keep pandering to the children that make the most fuss…women. I haven’t seen anything to make me believe that UKIP are pro man, but I think many hope that its (selective) pragmatism will be less pro entitled pro-victim class. be that class based on sex, race or (foreign) nationality.

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  20. theasdgamer says:

    @ Spawny

    And I actually have sympathy for the feeling of boredom.

    Not me. Those women could have been making sammiches. Making their family’s clothes and saving money. Doing more cooking at home. Not to mention starting home businesses like has been exemplified in the Proverbs 31 for millennia.

    Which reminds me–I should post about that Proverbs chapter which seriously undermines the notion that the Bible supports the oppression of women and that women were viewed as chattel in the Bible. Chattel don’t buy and own real estate or own their own businesses.

    Otoh, Europeans did view women as chattel. Can’t blame that on the Bible, though. More likely from a pre-Christian source.

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    Correcting the tone

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  22. Spawny Get says:

    ‘Tis the season to reconnect with old friends, especially the terrifically smart and discerning ones, like the one that emailed me today (known each other for 40+ years), the key part of the message?

    I have missed you and your ability to make me laugh.

    (keep it classy gentlemen, not like the comment preceding this one)

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  23. Yoda says:

    And I actually have sympathy for the feeling of boredom.

    I have sympathy not.
    When Yoda or his siblings of this did complain,
    to work they were put.

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  24. Yoda says:

    Wonder if lady in video makes sammiches I do.

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  25. Yoda says:

    that pushes the feminist line in order to keep pandering to the children that make the most fuss…women

    “For the chillldrennn” it all it is for.
    You do not hate children do you?

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    So reasons for a single man to ‘man up’
    1) Sex.
    2) Sammiches.
    3) Financial contribution from woman.

    Well…I can make my own sandwiches just fine.

    At my age 1 & 3 are two circles in a Venn diagram that have no intersection. YMMV for many reasons, and to such as you, I wish you god speed. To those about to advocate for self improvement so that an intersection is achieved, the effort far outweighs the reward. I am going to do exactly what I want to do, financial restrictions allowing (I can’t even afford to lease an interstellar capable space ship á la Louis Wu).

    If they bring in a bachelor tax, I’ll find a guy to ‘marry’ in name only. Or just go ghost, expatriate. Some of us MGTOWs ain’t coming back and the more they double down, the more men will go along with me.

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  27. theasdgamer says:

    Spawny, if I offended, I apologize. Merry Christmas, friend.

    [SG – No! No! Guess I had something to get off my chest. No problems here, friend]

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  28. Yoda says:

    These people make for shite journalists, as we have seen recently. They have an agenda, they just search for the first tale that enables them to push it, no verification required because the facts aren’t the point, they’re irrelevant, it’s the agenda that they’re pushing; the vagenda that counts.

    “Fake but accurate” they say.
    Gives the show away this does.
    But people pay attention not

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  29. Spawny Get says:

    “You do not hate children do you?”

    After decades of that shite being used on me, I can honestly say that I’m indifferent to all kinds of such emotional appeal. I have just seen a trailer for a documentary on the tsunami of 2004. That was the last time I gave to a charity. I now look back at my foolishness whilst shaking my head. Just how much of the £100 made it to the actual victims? Any that did probably went to women and children.

    This is why the SJWs are going to implode and have collective mental breakdowns, they ran the well of shaming and gullibility dry in a growing number of people. If I met a genuinely starving kid I’d feed him, but no money will leave my pocket for any charity that employs anyone. Lot of cats getting fat off of pay by non-profits and charities.

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  30. Yoda says:

    Spawny, if I offended, I apologize.

    Spawny has tough skin like Yoda he does.

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  31. Yoda says:

    Lot of cats getting fat of off pay by non-profits and charities.

    Obama proposed to forgive student loans of those who work for nonprofits he did.
    Hideously stupid this is.
    Subsidize useless people this would do.

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Yeah, no problem Gamer, just not in the sweetest of moods. You didn’t annoy me, neither did what you said, it just triggered a statement on an issue on my mind (not even an angry one, I didn’t see any personal attack in what you said).

    I think it’s an INTJ thing.

    I particularly wouldn’t take offence from anything that you said that was too blunt (you were not being too blunt. I am speaking more generally). Firstly because I understand the spectrum issue. Secondly because I happen to think that the world would be a much better place with more bluntness and less pussy-footing. Thirdly because I do it too.

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    Oh, and my reply to

    I have missed you and your ability to make me laugh.

    was

    I’m still very funny, it must be admitted. Though a shocking number continue to try and deny it, no idea why.

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  34. Yoda says:

    If they bring in a bachelor tax, I’ll find a guy to ‘marry’ in name only.

    Threesomes they would allow.
    Marry Elton John you should.
    Yellow brick road you would have.
    Rocket man you could be.
    Into the empty sky you could fly.
    To the bad side of the moon you could escape

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  35. theasdgamer says:

    Dance Game Report

    I have five things to talk about.

    First, I danced one dance with a young, pretty friend. She was a little too drunk to dance with and I had to protect her from falling during a few turns. She needs to learn not to drink much if she wants to dance with me.

    Second, I danced several dances with an early 40s pretty out-of-towner. She sang to me once. Wonderful dancer with lots of flourishes, too. She was my favorite partner of the evening. Too bad she’s leaving.

    Third, I danced a whooole lot with my married dancing buddy. I didn’t care about bonding and it didn’t cause a problem for me. Just had fun dancing with a friend. I chatted with her a bit at the end of the evening, getting to know one another a bit better. Very low-key and cool.

    Fourth, I chatted up another woman I know just to practice my convo skills.

    Fifth, I saw a woman in a stupor. She had been drugged. Someone had slipped drugs into her drink. People first suspected a man, but later someone saw two women trying to drop something into someone else’s drink. Make sure your drinks are watched by a responsible adult while you’re dancing. Or plan to not dance while you drink. Maybe rinse out your cup when you need water. Dancing requires water. Water can be drugged, too.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    “Obama proposed to forgive student loans of those who work for nonprofits he did.”

    This is subsidising cheap labout for non-profits who likely produce nothing except propaganda (likely of the type preferred by the spendthrift Mr O).

    “Hey, I’ll pay you a pittance, but the government will sweeten the deal by paying off with money they don’t have, debts for something that has no worth, in order to keep propped up a liberal academia comprised of academics of no worth but who push a friendly agenda which is broken, it doesn’t work.”

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  37. theasdgamer says:

    Oh, forgot a sixth thing–I chatted a lot with other men, too. It’s not just about chasing skirts, lol.

    I did compliment my married dancing buddy on wearing a dress–I told her that she looks like a girl, which she liked. She said that a dress is cooler to dance in than jeans.

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  38. sfcton says:

    I invest; beans, bullets, silver, gold and real property. The banking/ investment industry is a scam and I avoid it is much as humanly possible.

    Last I read, it’s mostly women who work @ non profits. The government paying off student loans for those who work @ non profit outfits is another version of the bachelor tax.

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  39. Yoda says:

    Many stealth bachelor taxes their are.
    A post on this worthy it would be.

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  40. Yoda says:

    Spawny,

    Unleash full power of the force I will
    if Jar-Jar in banner he placed.

    [SG- unnecessary warning is unnecessary, though I was thinking of making Farmer Palmer’s face green]

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    The rest of you have excuses, but Tarn was warned. The top banner ^^^

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  42. Spawny Get says:

    Jar Jar belongs on the rocket test’s target site

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  43. Spawny Get says:

    Photoshop, I did not. GIMPed I did. It’s free
    http://www.gimp.org/

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  44. sfcton says:

    Nice work on the banner Spwany

    Most taxes these days are a designed to transfer money from the what use to be a huge White middle class to non Whites and the wealthy to buy votes. Most of this is done in a stealthy manner

    The bus system in the town not to far from where I live is the example. It is pretty much only used by black folks to travel to the middle class section of time and cause problems. It doesn’t create enough revenue on it own and gets by on tax payer funding. And of course it doesn’t travel to the better parts of town.

    Tweaking it to support women over men is only a new version of an old theme.

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  45. Spawny Get says:

    Yes, I agree. The state is a huge enterprise to employ female paper pushers in jobs that don’t need doing and otherwise shift resources from men to women.

    I’ve been meaning to ask about your tooth-whitener. Clearly it works, but are you aware of the dangers of brushing too hard? Gum recession can be problematic.

    Also, congrats on the kid. I hope it’s a boy, if it is he’ll have a hell of a ride. I don’t think men need an enemy like a daughter of yours could become 😉

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  46. Spawny Get says:

    WHAT IS ‘MANSPREADING’ AND WHY ARE PEOPLE ANGRY ABOUT IT?

    About three days after death, corpses really start to stink. After rigor and livor mortis, the body’s cells start to rupture–what’s commonly known as putrefaction. This horrific interstitial stage of decomposition is where the unhappy modern feminist movement currently finds itself: emitting noxious odours, but well on the way to decay and skeletonisation, long past the point where CPR would have any effect on the brain.

    For feminism, skeletonisation cannot come soon enough. After the numerous and well-publicised feminist fiascoes of 2014, it has become clear to all but the most ideologically determined observers that the intersectional third-wave harpies who so dominate in the American and British media and to whom obeisance has been paid for many years have nothing left to fight for and no arguments left to win.

    The manspreading complaint is couched as a response to “rudeness” by men, but it is no such thing: it is pathetic feminist pipsqueakery, the last dying gasp of a movement with nothing to win and nothing to say, determined to abuse and antagonise the male sex at all costs and for whatever perceived or outright imaginary infraction it can conjure from the vicissitudes of everyday life. It is offensively trivial, and those associated with it ought to be ashamed.

    Enjoy

    Womanspreading

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  47. sfcton says:

    LOL Tand undead do not fear periodontal disease

    I wear that mask all the time @ work and when I ride. Me and my crew had all the girls spun up when we walked into an upper scale bar in full leathers and

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  48. Spawny Get says:

    you need to watch to the end…

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  49. Tarnished says:

    What is with all this “debt forgiveness” crap the government is doing (at least in the US)?

    If you owe on student loans or credit cards, you should pay. Not the government…and not your spouse either. It’s not like they got the education or products.
    Ugh, such entitlement!

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  50. Padawan says:

    What Happened? (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)

    Fembots prepare for the knocks!
    Hold onto your fucking sox!
    Spawny Get
    Has got himself set
    And exploded out of the blocks!

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  51. Cill says:

    Spawny Get at 9:26 ff
    Holy fuckeroo! what happened He tripped on the brilliant button and set the place ablaze!

    “UKIP is more popular among men than women”.
    Men are more likely to be the minority of one. Women support anything that smacks of big government e.g. EU

    “I haven’t seen anything to make me believe that UKIP are pro man”.
    This is true, but let’s not expect too much. Women would never vote such a party into power. All men can hope for is the pro-women party that’s the least anti-male.

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  52. Yoda says:

    Understand this difficult it is.

    http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/responding-to-offensive-posts-on-yik-yak-professors-stage-social-media-takeover/55265

    A Fuzzy place it was,

    “We were making it seem like Yik Yak is a fuzzy place where we all go to give each other group hugs,” he said.

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  53. sfcton says:

    What’s changed? Everything. The question is, did it change for the better?

    I say no.

    Funny video

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  54. Spawny Get says:

    That video surprised me as he appears on a lot of lefty, right-on bbc ‘comedies’. I was impressed at him by the end.

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    That’s prolly it for the header for a while. I’d forgotten a couple of obvious touches. Like…where kiwi fruit come from. But it’s all fixed now.

    Hope Fuzzie finds it acceptable? Not seen him today.

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  56. Padawan says:

    says Spawny: “Lot of cats getting fat of off pay by non-profits and charities” (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)

    In all this yaknee slang wordy buzz
    “Of off” means same as “off of” it does?

    [SG – I blame Yoda, I do]

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    When Fuzzie has his new anonymous email address, I will be happy to supply the jpeg of the bear for his avatar

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  58. Moehau Man says:

    Fuzzy ➡ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    (hibernation)

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  59. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I love the banner! More furry friends, please!

    Yoda,
    They set up a social media network on cmapus, made it anonymous, and expected everyone to be all sweet and nice?
    Oops1 Lesson in fuzzy logic.

    About the bachelor tax, Sfcton gave a good example about how person A is taxed to benefit person B. Some subtlety has been learnt since the time of Emperor Augustus. It’s there on both the income and outgo of government finance.
    Spawny has pointed out that men pay seventy five percent of the taxes in the UK. ManWomanMyth has pointed out that women recieve seventy of health care expenditures.
    This is all just for starters.

    I am disappointed about loan forgiveness to non profit workers. On the face of it, it sounds fine but, getting down to cases, it’s a giveaway.

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  60. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, the only things showing above the sheets are the bear’s round ears on the pillow, beside his teddy. He’s fast asleep.

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  61. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny,
    On a personal note, it sounds as if someone out of your past doe not want to be lonely over Christmas. I can remember last Christmas commenting on a thread and saying that I would watch “Gettysburg”. I did. It sucks being single and there should be something for singles.

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  62. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Moehau Man,
    That is a happy image.

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  63. Spawny Get says:

    Got to admit that GIMP makes better images than MS Paint.

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/

    Check out the images, now with added pasties and merkin

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  64. Tarnished says:

    Way off topic, but I don’t know how busy I’ll be during the next few days, so…

    Happy Yule!
    Happy Hanukkah!
    Joyous Festivities!
    Merry Christmas!

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  65. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarnished,
    I hope that you will not be so busy that you can’t visit here.
    Happy Yule to you!

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  66. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,

    I hope I’m not that busy, but…
    Not sure what (if any) holidays you celebrate but I hope it’s a good one!

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  67. Tarnished says:

    Muchas gracias, Spawny. 🙂

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  68. Spawny Get says:

    de rien, mon brave

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  69. sfcton says:

    Here’s another bachelor tax idea for your considerations; alimony.

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  70. Spawny Get says:

    Male prisoners as I hear it.

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  71. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Overall, health insurance may be bigger. To make men and women pay the same rates when women use it three times as much, citing 75/25 F/M expenditure in the UK, single men are picking up the difference for single women. To married people , ti would be a wash.

    In the time of Augustus, the bachelors didn’t mind paying it. They had first hand experience dallying with Roman matrons.

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  72. Ok this is totally off topic but I am looking for some insight from ya’ll, but didn’t want to put this on my blog. Tips on dealing with a nut job ex girlfriend. They dated for 3 months. he broke it off because she was flakey and seemed to want to date the field. Unfortunately, she latched onto his social circle in that short time and shows up at gatherings. The two we have been to when she was there, she literally followed us around all night, never talked to us, but was never far away. She will position herself behind my back so when my ex is facing me she is in the background. She will walk between us rather than go around. We’ve avoided a few events after hearing she’ll be there. His good friend just told him this week at the last event (we were not there) she was running him down, saying he was a jerk to her, to one of his best friends. That friend has an annual New Year’s party and after the last incident his friend made it clear to her best friend that she is not invited, and why. My fiance says if she keeps attending stuff (she finds out via Facebook, supposedly his friends don’t want her there but it’s awkward so they haven’t confronted it) then he will just start avoiding that group, but it’s like she’s hijacking his social circle. Weird. Anyway anyone have any thoughts on or know of advice for dealing with this type of ex who won’t go away? She’s creeping me out. But I also don’t want to read too much into it. That’s why I am seeking your outside views! Thanks guys! Fuzzie does the tonya (I forget her last name) therapist you know of have anything on this topic, perhaps?

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  73. Yoda says:

    In the time of Augustus, the bachelors didn’t mind paying it.

    Health insurance in Roman times did exist?

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  74. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    The bachelors did not mind paying the Bachelor Tax. Sorry for the confusion.:(
    Those Roman matrons had a lot of fun with bachelors. Now, Augustus wants them to get married, so they can be cuckolded in turn?

    I liked the Dr. Helen link. Any way that can be found to beat up on men will be exercised. Women must be entertained.
    This is beginning to get ridiculous.

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  75. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Off topic. Saw this over at Return of Kings. It’s a Sponsored Post. In light of Sandman’s video being taken down recently that cast online dating in a badlight, then this, casting online dating in a good light, I would say that a multi-billion dollar indusry is flexing its muscle. To add to that, this is a demonstration that it does value its male cutomers.
    There’s onlt one problem, their product is bad.

    http://www.returnofkings.com/51260/5-tips-for-writing-an-online-dating-profile-that-gets-responses#!

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  76. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, from the breitbart manspreading comments

    Palm Bay Patriot • 6 hours ago
    Here is an example of a new anti-feminist who has not seen it all the way through. Welcome on board fellow sir! Now consider this: have you ever asked how many men and boys ISIS had killed before abducting women? No? Sure, the media didn’t tell you. Pay attention: 250 killed among the women and girls. Nigeria’s Boko Haram, BringBackOurGirls — yeah and screw those boys they just killed off, nobody gives a shyte about boys. And again Peshawar school attack 140 killed, 140 what? Ah “children” “students” oh there was a 5 year old Girl and 2 female teachers, hallelujah! now we can construct a female victim narrative! Oh, the TV showed only boys dead, darn! It must be the goddamn sexism in TV, silencing and hiding the plight of women and girls, right? B/s, my friend, utter b/s! Almost all of the “children” were boys. The Taliban set it up that way, they had a hit-list, with boys, they entered the school in the boys’ wing. On purpose! Because women and girls are too valuable to kill. Oh, yeah, and now some sentimental bullshiite will come and tell us how rape is worse than death. And women are the primary victims of war, right?

    No my friend, what you will soon see is that we do not have here a problem of “modern western feminism” but one of all “women’s rights” movements from the beginning. They all lie, they all subtract any concern about men and boys, and in the end they kill. Feminism is and has always been a hate ideology. For 200 years. Welcome to your personal liberation from their b/s they put into all our brains. The times are over, there is no going back into “never mind” land. They have opened our eyes and there is no stopping our taking back sanity and becoming free again.

    No references, but some numbers that make sense.

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    The sponsors won’t appreciate the majority of the comments, Fuzzie

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  78. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    If that school had seperate wings for boys and girls, then the numbers from that commenter are feasible. We may never know.

    Checked out the comments at RoK. At a guess, one or two may be shills.
    If this is as I suspect, why the interest in men? Women may drop out but, they will come back. When men drop out, they don’t come back.
    I am going to take this as a positive sign that the online dating industy is running short on men.

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  79. Spawny Get says:

    Good night, hope you like your bear on the banner 😉 I think Tarn won though.

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  80. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Good night, Spawny! And yes, I very much like my bear!

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  81. Cill says:

    Fuzzy I’m hoping I can join you later. I’m a bit tied up at the moment. I guess you’re getting close to sleep time anyway. If we don’t catch up tonight, maybe tomorrow.

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  82. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    It is close to beddy bye time. I’ll be up for a bit.

    Spawny Get,
    That picture of a bear on the banner gets better the more I look at it. He’s very quiet and thoughtful.

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  83. Cill says:

    “He’s very quiet and thoughtful”
    Just like the said Spawny behind his rambunctious self.
    Looks more and more like I’ll be tied up tonight.
    Goodnight and sweet dreams

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  84. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    May all go well!

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  85. Yoda says:

    Men take up too much space on public transit they say.
    800 years ago when Yoda was a sprout, teen females invariably thin they were.
    Teen land whales very common today they are.
    Do what we should?

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  86. Yoda says:

    Reminds me of something it does.
    Lindy West busy she is?

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  87. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,

    Men “take up too much space” because of how they sit…which isn’t really too much at all. I also sit like a guy (either legs apart or ankle up on knee), but nobody has ever complained that I am hogging more space than I should.

    Oh, that’s right.
    It’s “empowering” for a female-bodied person, but a sign of “entitlement” for a male-bodied one.
    Such crap…

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  88. Yoda says:

    why-do-guys-spread-their-legs-when-sitting-on-the-subway-my-weekend-of-sitting-like

    Guys write such articles not.
    Laughed out of town they would be.

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  89. Yoda says:

    Bad marriage risk Miss Moss would be.
    Men want their women to spread legs in public not.

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  90. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    You mentioned Lindy West. I haven’t heard much about her since she left Jezebel. Remembering her fondness for Peanut Butter M&Ms, , I saw something yesterday that may be of interest. Rebecca Watson and Amanda Marcotte meeting in a hotel room and playing video games. In the background, there was a big bag of Peanut Butter M&Ms.
    Could this be a feminist thing?

    If feminists are going to make a big deal out of men being space hogs, that can cut both ways. At bottom, they don’t want to be reminded of our existence. The last time I had to sit in a waiting romm, I leafed through a couple of copies of Women’s Day. In both copies, there were only three pictures of men or boys. This was a housewife magazine.

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  91. Yoda says:

    The last time I had to sit in a waiting room

    Bears wait they do?
    To head of line they would go.

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  92. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    I did not have an appointment.
    What do you think of feminist fondness for Peanut Butter M&Ms?

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  93. Tarnished says:

    …Feminists love peanut butter m&ms?

    That’s sad. I love them too. 😦

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  94. Yoda says:

    Childcare scandal peanut butter once centered.
    Related to this it might be.

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  95. Cill says:

    Peanut Butter M&Ms, Fuzzy? Yuk. But then, I don’t have a sweet tooth anyway. A Marmite M&M would interest me. Savor the yeast. Mmmmm… 😎

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  96. Spawny Get says:

    I love the idea of shipping ALL marmite half way round the world

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    When the bombers drop off their toxic chemical payload, all shall hail the Marmageddon

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  98. Yoda says:

    Vegamite M&M’s there are?

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  99. Spawny Get says:

    Cease thine blasphemy…only in hell could such an abomination exist.

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  100. Cill says:

    Vegemite is an Aussie abomination. Marmite is authentic NZ Sanitarium and would be an excellent filler for an M&M.

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  101. Spawny Get says:

    1) yours is a pale imitation of the British muck.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite

    The product that was to become Marmite was invented in the late 19th century when German scientist Justus von Liebig discovered that brewer’s yeast could be concentrated, bottled and eaten.[4][5] In 1902 the Marmite Food Extract Company was formed in Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England with Marmite as its main product and Burton as the site of the first factory.[6] The product took its name from the “marmite” (French: [maʁmit]), a French term for a large, covered earthenware or metal cooking pot.[3] The labels of the UK product still carry the image of a marmite. The by-product yeast needed for the paste was supplied by Bass Brewery. By 1907, the product had become successful enough to warrant construction of a second factory at Camberwell Green in London.[7]

    The product’s popularity prompted the Sanitarium Health Food Company to obtain sole rights to distribute the product in New Zealand and Australia in 1908.[8] They later began manufacturing Marmite under licence in Christchurch, albeit using a modified version of the original recipe, most notable for its inclusion of sugar and caramel.[2] Common ingredients are also slightly different quantities from the British version;[2] the New Zealand version has high levels of potassium, for example. New Zealand Marmite is described as having a “weaker” or “less tangy” flavour than the British version.[2] It is distributed throughout Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific Islands.

    2) Marmite and Cherry Truffles
    http://www.ilovemarmite.com/item.asp?id=151&tid=10

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  102. Cill says:

    Didn’t some famous womens romance writer Dame somebody have something to do with the original Marmite? She thought the throw-out brewer’s yeast could feed the poor. She’s a brassy old biddie now. Cartland?

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  103. Spawny Get says:

    Barbara Cartland is now a mouldy biddie…

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  104. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I just had a mean thought. Trick the feminists by switching peanut butter M&Ms with marmite M&Ms.The real ones we could send to Tarn.

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  105. Spawny Get says:

    Make sure it’s the real thing, they deserve it. Accept no substitute.

    Seems Cill is off making truffles.

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  106. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill has to sleep sometime.
    Think we could talk the guinea pigs into doing the swicheroo?

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  107. Spawny Get says:

    10am there, I think. And Cill is a decidedly amateur sleeper at the best of times.

    Guinea pig droppings might be used instead of going to all the culinary (is that the right word?) hassle in the first place. Prolly taste better less worser too.

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  108. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Off topic but of interest. This blogger is not MGTOW, he is a divorced Dad.

    http://blog.angry-dad.com/2014/12/escape-patriarchy-destruction.html

    Spawny Get,
    I wouldn’t deny feminists the experience of marmite M&Ms. You do have a point, guinea pig dropping may taste better.

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  109. Cill says:

    I’d like to see Big Red eat a Marmite M&M. Her lips would form an O the size of a tractor tube and the bullrings would fall of off her ears.

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  110. Cill says:

    …and the same time her sharp indraw of breath would drain every cod sack in a 100m radius

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  111. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    Think of all the bad words that would pour out of her! WE NEED IT FILMED!
    This just gets better and better,

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  112. Cill says:

    Her nipples would eject from her chest and lay waste to a synagog in Tel Aviv, her cellulite would smite the pavement and ripple around her ankles, her butt cheeks would come together with a sentient hiss…

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  113. Cill says:

    Her tongue would push words through her paralyzed lips like smoke rings from her Lil Ebner maw “SSUT DE FFUK UUD… SSUT DE FFUK UUD… SSUT DE FFUK UUD…

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  114. Yoda says:

    Card for Miss Moss does follow,

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  115. Yoda says:

    Her lips would form an O the size of a tractor

    Big O for Big Red this would be.

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  116. Cill says:

    We should pass around the hat and donate to a worthy cause, The Marmite M&Ms Mission for The Negating of Big Red

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  117. Cill says:

    TMMMM4TNOBR

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  118. Cill says:

    Anyone know if there’s any truth to the story of Barbara Cartland and the brewer’s yeast? I never read it anywhere. Someone told me the story years ago, and I’ve since wondered if she was pulling my leg.

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  119. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Big Red hasn’t been in the spotlight very much. Could this be why?

    So, a man’s life is not worth a little less than four grand Canadian.

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  120. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    It has been brought up on various blogs a number of times. It is very mysterious that feminsts, so free with their condemnations of occidentalas, will not say “boo” about Muslims and their blatant and deliberate abuse.
    It’s gotten absurd. Between complaining about men taking up too much space on public transportation and then not saying a thing about Rotherham.

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  121. Cill says:

    Some time ago I said Big Red is a frustrated opera singer who’d specialize in Wagner. It’s not over ’til Big Red sings.

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  122. Cill says:

    Moslems are not the Patriarchy. The straight white male is responsible for everything that’s wrong everywhere. Therefore everyone and everything else must be better than the civilization white men built, no matter what. Such is the illogic of Feminism.

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  123. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    Do you think the whole neighborhood knows when Big Red is having sex?

    As for feminists/Muslims, there is something going on. Give it time. One of these days, a feminist will spill the beans on this one.

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  124. Cill says:

    “Do you think the whole neighborhood knows when Big Red is having sex?”
    She will hit top C with exaggerated vibrato, like José Carreras’ slow wobble. She will receive it in the spurt of Xmas.

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  125. Tarnished says:

    Give Tarn all the real ones? Yes, please.

    Chocolate + peanut butter is desired by everyone in my family…if I wanted any I had to purchase it myself!

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  126. Tarnished says:

    On topic:
    Big Red is one of the most obnoxious, rude, and disturbing people I’ve ever seen. Rather on par with Sharon Osborne.

    Who the frell sings “Cry Me a River” when listening to someone talk about a suicide?
    Seriously, that’s just…I don’t even know. A level of callousness previously unbeknownst to YouTube?

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  127. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarn,
    The best peanut butter M&Ms are the ones stolen by guinea pigs from feminists!!
    I just wish I couild see a video of their reactions when they bite into Marmite M&Ms.

    When Big Red did her thing in Toronto, it was John the Other and Dan Perrins who were on hand. While I am not sure, that story the woman told about losing her husband to suicide could have been Dan’s brother.

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  128. Cill says:

    The crowd has started rolling in here. I decorated a 70 feet pine tree and it should light up a treat tonight. My place is ready for the onslaught of Molly and Ezzy and my dad and big bro and all the rest. If I get the time I’ll set up a greetings post here for any of them that feels so inclined to greet you fine folks. I’d like you to meet my dad and sisters and big bro especially.

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  129. Cill says:

    Bloom,

    I can’t add much to this reply by Alana:
    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/greetings-of-the-season/comment-page-1/#comment-5975

    Molly is the target of a lot of female jealousy because Molly attracts the attention of men everywhere she goes. She doesn’t ignore the jealousy, she fronts up to it. She handles it with unflagging courtesy. Even if they are shrieking in her face, she remains friendly and pleasant. When I asked her how she does it, she said she “sends her mind to a friendly place”. It works.

    I’ve seen the jealousy at work in my own life too. It really can impinge on a man’s social life. Molly helped me in dealing with it. Again, it worked. Your man sounds like a good bloke. I wish him and you the best. I hope it works out well.

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  130. Tarnished says:

    Have people unfriend her on Facebook so she can’t see the posts about events. Either that, or your man needs to have an honest discussion (preferably with a mutual friend present) with this ex to calmly but decisively let her know she’s being childish and it is unacceptable. Further actions like this will not be tolerated.

    It’s incredibly pathetic that an adult needs to be given a reality boot to the head…but there you go.

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  131. Yoda says:

    Molly is the target of a lot of female jealousy because Molly attracts the attention of men everywhere she goes.

    Feminine she is.
    Like magnet this would be.

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  132. Tarnished says:

    It’s not even necessarily having to do with femininity…ANY female who gets more male attention is suspect and a dire threat.

    I can’t begin to count how many times I was called a whore or a slut because I had more male friends than female ones. Got to the point where even girls who’d been friends for 5+ years were stabbing me in the back and saying I was “loose”. All that did was convince me that the majority of women are frickin crazy, utterly insecure, and charlatans when it comes to actually having a real friendship.

    NAWALT, but more than EWALT.

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  133. Tarnished says:

    In dealings with women, it’s common to see tons of infighting, abject jealousy, lies, and publicly revealed secrets. They truly are frightening creatures.

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  134. Spawny Get says:

    “All that did was convince me that the majority of women are frickin crazy, utterly insecure, and charlatans when it comes to actually having a real friendship.”

    misogynist 😉

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  135. Tarnished says:

    Is that the British way of spelling “realist”, dear Spawny?

    😉

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  136. molly says:

    Bloom I’m so sorry to hear that.

    Imagine your totally fav place. When the jealousy starts up I imagine myself packing my bags for a boat voyage to Cill’s place. I imagine myself there and the peace and the fun I feel. I confront jealousy head-on as soon as I hear it. I say like “I heard what you said and it is not true.” … with the best manners I possibly can. I’m feeling Cill’s paradise so it’s easy. So she raises her voice at me. I smile my sweetest smile, thinking of the time I tied sleeping Cill to the chair and chucked a bucket of water on him. He jumps like a roo with the chair on his back as he chases me around. I lead him on a course that makes him crash into things. My smile is beautific. Now everybody hears her. “I heard what you said and it is not true.” I repeat it and they all hear. I guarantee by now every man in the room is on my side, especially her boyfriend/husband. She is a fool in front of them all, the women too.

    It gives me a secret little thrill every time that is so very not altruistic.
    Hahahahaha!! >:D
    Serves them right.

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  137. Yoda says:

    It’s not even necessarily having to do with femininity

    More feminine they are –
    the more attention they will get (if appearance acceptable it is)

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  138. Yoda says:

    Females much attention they desire.
    Good post topic for Farm Boy this would be.

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  139. Spawny Get says:

    “Good post topic for Farm Boy this would be.”

    The man’s a veritable machine, pass along my thanks, please

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  140. Yoda says:

    The man’s a veritable machine

    Much stamina he has.
    Him with 800 years experience do imagine.
    Probably talk like me he will.

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  141. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,

    Or if they don’t dress/act feminine but have large tracts of land, it’s difficult to get away from attention too. 😛

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  142. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    If you’re worried enough to call on our advice, I am worried too. I hope that what you are dealing with is someone jealous and not outright crazy. It’s more likely she is jealous. For a while she harbored hope and now, it’s gone.
    I have never had to deal with this situation. I don’t have any practical advice.
    One thought, given that you’re both at an age when eligible men are scarce, this may exacerbate the jealousy.

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  143. blurkel says:

    Let’s not glorify the 1950’s!

    I grew up in what could have been termed Ozzie and Harriet ville. All of the fathers were afterhours drunks, which of course all of the sons aspired to emulate. The fathers tended to rule with iron fists, all becaue their lives were so bullied at work, and they missed the freedom to lash out physically in the manner a war provides now that they worked for living, mostly in offices with no advancement prospects.

    All of the mothers really ran things at home, and raised their sons in the absense of any paternal input beyond the occasional cuff or left jab in the ribs. This provided an advantage to their daughters, so that when it became time for them to generate grandkids, they would have the advantage over their sperm donors. Only once the fathers deteriorated due to drink did mom ever dare to stand up for her babies against him. There was a great deal of dysfunction as a result.

    All of us kids grew up drinking from early ages, and we were willing participants when marijuana and other drugs made their entrance into our world. Few of us stopped with beer and weed, instead graduating to harder substances. Not all of us lived to adulthood.

    But if we did, we had no clue what life was all about. Our parents thought they could limit how much of the world’s influences would reach us, and keeping us ignorant was the first (and often only) stretegem employed. We ended up having to crawl through the mud of life before we might have won a chance to learn how to stand.

    If I had it all to do over again, I would have left it all behind that much sooner. and I would have left it alone rather than with someone who didn’t know more than I did and tried to game me as her mother did her father.

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  144. Farm Boy says:

    Or if they don’t dress/act feminine but have large tracts of land, it’s difficult to get away from attention too

    As real estate agents always say, “It all depends on location, location, location”.

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  145. Farm Boy says:

    Let’s not glorify the 1950’s!

    Things are relative in this case.

    In terms of the system, they were better than today.

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  146. blurkel says:

    Simpler, maybe. Better? Not a chance!

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  147. I almost wish this post had stayed in moderation, it was bothering me that day but I have since made peace with it. I am just going to ignore her. That’s another drawback of the current smp, ghosts of ex’s past linger about…

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  148. Spawny Get says:

    It was falsely flagged as spam. You got my email?

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  149. Farm Boy says:

    but have large tracts of land

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  150. Farm Boy says:

    Simpler, maybe. Better? Not a chance!

    Focus on “the system” and what it did. Not on technological development, economic development, etc.

    In the present day, men cannot have a family to call his own. It would seem that fact would suggest that some important things have gone backwards.

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  151. Spawny Get says:

    Just watching Catpain Murika part the second. DAMN Peggy hit the wall hard. The first film was only made a couple of years ago, he looks the same. Tanning? Smoking (a lot)? Meth addiction? Damn.

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  152. blurkel says:

    Men didn’t have families of their own back then. They had the expenses of their wives spawning children they weren’t allowed to raise in ways she didn’t approve. Now, there is no pretense, and I doubt he cares much.

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  153. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bloom,
    I have been thinking about your situation. While this is a guess, what could have happened is that she was “meh” about him until he found you. It’s a corollary to preselection.

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