MGTOW – Why you can’t find a good man. Smart guy answers in full.


(you can skip to 1:30 is you’re pressed for time, but you need to watch this)

He’s speaking as a black guy, but damned if I can see any reason that his wisdom doesn’t apply to whites.  This guy nails so much in 10 minutes, so clearly, that red-pill has to hit anyone watching this right between the eyes.

To keep the comments on track, here’re the Cliff notes:

Ladies, the reasons that you can’t find a good man:

1) 1:53 – Men have ears.  Men hear all the ‘strong, independent woman’ stuff and draw the conclusion that there’s no position to apply for.  No stench of desperation either though.

2) 3:07 – The wall.  18 – 28 gravity is your friend.  35 – 40 the man train left the station years ago.  You’re going to have to work a lot harder.  50 is not the new sexy despite what all the 50+ y.o. shills in the women’s rag mags are selling you.

3) 4:36 – Apex fallacy.  There are men out there with the qualities that you say you want, but you ladies don’t see them because they haven’t got the other qualities you demand (that you just don’t talk about.  666.  because then you’d sound as shallow as a man just saying he wants looks uber alles).  You’re not all ‘all that’, most are average, some are below average.  Social media is inflating your sense of self worth beyond all reason.  You’re intoxicated by all the up-votes you get, you forget who is likely liking you.  You’re deluded when you translate your online fan club into what you think you’re worth in real life.  Your out of control ego and princess attitudes are not attractive to men.

4) 6:46 – The second wall  35+.  Your eggs are dying.  A lot of men hearing you wanting to start a family ‘soon’ at 40…are going to run away.

5) 7:46 – Looking for Captain Save-a-Ho.  Men ask ‘what else are you bringing to the table apart from your pussy, your problems and your complaints?’.  Anything?  Credit, living with mom, ex’s getting out of gaol soon…

6) 8:43 – Men don’t like approaching women.  Harassment accusations mean that increasingly it’s only the assholes that are finding it worth the risk of approaching.

7) 10:12 – ‘Good’ women don’t call out crazy behaviour by other women.  What conclusions are men expected to draw?  That inviting a woman into their life is inviting crazy into their life.  Your ‘cute’ stories cause men to walk away slowly waving you back.

Summary 10:50  ‘If you want to keep a man…’  to paraphrase this, ‘be nice to him’.  Men are not looking for women that say ‘you can’t handle me’ because they don’t want to ‘handle’ a crazy woman.  Raise your standards.  Make better decisions.

Here’s his channel : HHKCalgary the man’s a genius.  He’s going straight in the links page.

This post ties in well with a post on Bloom’s blog titled Is Commitment Phobia Real?  Bloom’s post started as a discussion on the worthy subject of ‘why men might not commit to you’.  However, as frequently happens, some of the comments took the conversation toward MGTOW and the reasons for MGTOW.  On this occasion I can only be held partially to blame for the conversation wandering off track.  Everything remained clam and polite, so no harm done.  And in fact, it might have spurred further posts in the pipeline, so that’s nice.

The video above and Bloom’s postal thread are both gateways to the red-pill.  For women they answer questions that they might well already have.  For men that may provide a seed around which all their attitudes can now coalesce.  It’s often said by men in the manosphere that they already knew that there was a problem, finding the manosphere only lead to them being able to identify it in concrete terms.  To enrich their language by adding terms that eased discussion with other men.

I found this excellent video by seeing it recommended after watching a PatrickHenryist ‘Life After Women’ video recommended by Fuzzie.  If you find any other new Youtubers et al please let me know so that I can continue to expand the links page.

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67 comments on “MGTOW – Why you can’t find a good man. Smart guy answers in full.
  1. Yoda says:

    It’s often said by men in the manosphere that they already knew that there was a problem, finding the manosphere only lead to them being able to identify it in concrete terms.

    Rare is the case when true this is not.
    Be there for them when they stumble in we should.

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  2. Yoda says:

    Your out of control ego and princess attitudes are not attractive to men.

    “Your out of control ego and princess attitudes are dangerous to a man”

    Improved it I did.
    Normal syntax I used.

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  3. Spawny Get says:

    “Normal syntax I used.”

    Thanks for the clarification, sometimes it’s not clear.

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  4. theasdgamer says:

    What men like in a woman:

    1. Beauty. Be all that you can be. Minimum standards apply for a relationship. Does not overrule other things for a relationship.

    2. Long hair, because it says, “I’m a girl.” Short hair says, “I’m a Strong Independent Woman” or “I’m old.” Short hair says, “I listen to what the herd says is cute because it’s easier for me.” This one’s easy to do.

    3. Slim. Fat ain’t where it’s at if you want a man. Non-negotiable for most men. Fat is often a deal breaker.

    4. Feminine. Feminine voice, clothes, sweetness, and a submissive attitude start a man thinking about the possibilities of a LTR with you.

    5. Loyalty and faithfulness. If you are committed to a man, you won’t put yourself out there where men can hit on you. You will mateguard yourself and make it difficult for your exes to contact and find you. Do you have a mateguarding strategy?

    6. Sweetness. I mentioned this under feminine, but it bears repeating and more detail. Do you do extra things for your man? Like making his favorite foods and avoid making foods he doesn’t like? Repairing his clothes? Write little love notes to him? Wearing lingerie for him? Wearing makeup to bed? Allocating time for sex frequently?

    Things men don’t like in a woman:

    1. Doesn’t wear makeup or fix her hair. She doesn’t care about looking good for her man.

    2. Wears pants. Because she wants to wear the pants in a relationship.

    3 Wears her hair short. Because she wants to look like a man.

    4. Is fat. Yuk.

    5. Chases other c0ck.

    6. Is bitchy and doesn’t do stuff for her man.

    7. Is disrespectful to her man in public and/or private.

    8. Puts off sex.

    9. Acts vain and/or entitled.

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  5. Yoda says:

    Applicable this might be,

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2014/11/28/the-importance-of-being-pleasant/
    [SG – Added to bottom of article, you-thank]

    [SG – I’ve swapped authorship over to Farm Boy (for a while anyway). Can you let him know that he should feel free to polish up the article, expand it etc? I’d prefer to be able to make it multiple authorship, but it doesn’t appear to be possible]

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  6. Yoda says:

    doesn’t do stuff for her man.

    Sammiches big they would be.

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  7. Yoda says:

    Men are not looking for women that say ‘you can’t handle me’

    Jedis many challenges they have.
    Not needed this challenge is.

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  8. Tarnished says:

    @theasdgamer

    Some of those points aren’t true for all men, but they are good generalizations. For example, one of the things my lover likes about me is that I don’t wear makeup. However, if a marriage minded woman starts with this list and then tailors it to her own relationship, it could really help.

    @Spawny
    I always tell women: “If you can’t find a good man, you’re not opening your eyes. Good, or even great, men are literally everywhere.

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  9. Yoda says:

    Farm Boy says that busy he is.
    No significant time before weekend he has.

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  10. Spawny Get says:

    GirlWritesWhat on RadicalBytes (Mrs Sarkeesian’$ fucknut boyfriend iirc). Reviews are good.

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  11. Moehau Man says:

    “Moe, did you watch the vid on the latest post?”
    I just did. I’ve come across that bloke before, and he’s put out several good vids.

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  12. Moehau Man says:

    Have you seen his video that featured the mechanic?

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  13. Moehau Man says:

    Searching for it I came upon this:
    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-lounge-main-forum/hhkcalgary-mgtow-video-3857-post37290/

    I’ll keep looking for the “mechanic” vid. (It’s serious MGTOW BTW, not porn)

    [SG – did you check who posted that? I’ll wait while you check who the mystery poster with the movie star good looks is]

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  14. Spawny Get says:

    Watch that ^^^^^^^^ GirlWritesWhat video. She’s baa-aack

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  15. Cill says:

    Great, you tell ’em Karen! This one is old but I like the way it rights history (Pankhursts etc):

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/karen-straughan-aka-gww-avfm-mens-issues-conference-detroit-2014/

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  16. Cill says:

    “SG – did you check who posted that?”
    Yeah mate, that’s why I linked it here. I did it as a favor, knowing it would bring more women to your blog.

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  17. Cill says:

    Your magnetic movie star good looks and all…

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  18. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    Thankis for the new GWW video. I had about given up on her. She really shouldn’t drink vodka straight out of the bottle and, judging her reaction, it really was vodka.

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  19. Moehau Man says:

    Spawny has movie star good looks and Tarnished has a blue lobster with residues of nail polish on its head.

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  20. Cill says:

    If you haven’t seen the vid I linked at 12:07 am it’s worth watching. If her comments about the early 20th century feminists are accurate, it sets history on its head. The question is, are they accurate?

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    There aren’t any women on GoingYourOwnWay …that’s why I double post. Overlapping audiences, but not the same audience. Depending on the topic, I do have a preference for which works best for me. If I’d known where those guys were (I know some from their old site, where I lurked), this place might never have been. Now! Now! Don’t say anything that’ll make you hate yourself.

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  22. Spawny Get says:

    Think I watched all the Detroit vids. The KSUM / ZenMen one’s? Not so much, maybe not so far.

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, the YouTube comments suggest it was real.

    Good night

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  24. Cill says:

    “There aren’t any women on GoingYourOwnWay”

    Ah… BUT women visit it, hoping to catch a whiff of something illicit (i.e. MGTOW) and exciting…

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  25. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, I will be deleting troll comments on sight and retrospectively. I am not ducking interested in what delusional aerosols think. Call it sane privilege if you will. We see enough stuff in the MSM to know that talk is a waste of time with these people, they’re are nuts. You saw Karen’s reaction…I got heartburn just watching that.

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  26. Cill says:

    I’ve looked at GoingYourOwnWay and it’s not for me. It runs those popularity points on its commenters. It’s a way of promoting homogeneity, I suppose, but my INTJ instincts rebel against it. It smacks of “the clique”, the “in mob”, conformity. I’m an odd fit on any MGTOW blog already, without adding that on top.

    [SG – Fair enough, but I like a bit of feedback. I regard it as intj data. I like the guys there. Some of them I know from waaaay back. They don’t particularly know me as I tended to lurk on those sites and I change names when I get bored of them. I do like SG though]

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  27. Cill says:

    “Ah… BUT women visit it, hoping to catch a whiff of something illicit (i.e. MGTOW) and exciting…”
    That was mischief from me. Not serious.

    [SG – Furry muff, no problem either way. I’m sure some women and manginas do go offense seeking surfing]

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  28. Cill says:

    … You and I know that, but others might not. I wasn’t being serious, folks!

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  29. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Well, I went back and watched Karen’s video again. Her last line sums it up. After emptying the vodka bottle, “Oh Go! That was horrible!”.
    Where did Anita Sarkeesian’s squeeze find these guys?

    [SG – well duhhh! Manginas-r-us. Social ‘justice’ Weasel aisle]

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  30. Cill says:

    Fuzzy I agree re the vodka. It’s a bad look, and it gives ammo to her detractors.

    When it comes to the substance of her vid, though, she’s sure got the bottle!

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  31. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I think she was doing it for comic relief. Had she asked me, I would have told her about Trampoline Bear.

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  32. Cill says:

    Yeah Fuzzy, Trampoline Bear suffered from loosened mental faculties. Intact bears know not to beat their heads against the world.

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  33. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I always thought that Trampoline Bear climbed up that tree because he had heard “Oh, Let’s just be friends” one too many times.

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  34. Cill says:

    It was some reason such as LJBF that loosened his mental faculties. LJBF is more stupefying than Vodka. LJBF would tree any bear eventually, and having gone up he loses his way back down to Earth.

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  35. Cill says:

    Is there such a thing as a Hypergamy Bear in ursine-dom? It would be a female bear, if at all.

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  36. Cill says:

    If there is a Hypergamy Bear, Putative Trampoline Bear could perhaps let her hear the menace of his growl then quickly mount her in lieu of the tree.

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  37. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    We may be on to something here. Trampoline and Hypergamy Bear could be made into a blockbuster movie. Moehau Man would be great as narrator.

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  38. Cill says:

    Yeah! We should start on the script right now! Let’s go!

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  39. Padawan says:

    Opening Scroll for “Trampoline Bear Tingles Hypergamy Bear (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)

    She tingles with fear when he
    Growls at her ‘neath a tree
    While she’s still tingling
    He has her commingling
    Before she has time to flee

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  40. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Imagine Trampoline Bear’s joy! No more tranquilizer darts, no more falling from trees, no more trampolines!!!

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  41. Cill says:

    Trampoline Bear is in a state of joy!

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  42. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    And, to top it all off, Hypergamy is making him sandwiches.

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  43. Padawan says:

    HYPERGAMY BEAR AND THE TRAMPO BEAR AND A SANDWICH (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ? Song performed by Moehau Man with the Banging Boners)

    If you go down to the woods today
    You’ll get a big surprise
    If you go down to the woods today
    You won’t believe your eyes!
    For the she-Bear who yesterday was just a good friend
    Is all overcome with sensations no end
    because
    because…
    Recalling when yesterday, shocked by his growl
    Into a hole in the tree she fell
    And erupted howling and swelling with stings
    And confused as well by his growling and things
    She’s simply unable to resist making Trampo a S-A-A-A-N-D-W-I-C-H

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  44. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Padawan,
    I can imagine Anne Murray singing your lyrics. You’ve out done yourself!
    Tonight I will dream of sandwiches made by Hypergamy Bear.

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  45. Padawan says:

    Padawan asks his Fuzzy friend, does he,
    Was there ever a better use of hypergamy?

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  46. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well young Fuzzy, since I and the Banging Boners performed the piece, do we need Ann Murray? I won’t be offended if you’d prefer her to perform the song.

    P.S. I just finished making a new Kauri club. I’m giving it a few practice swings right now. Nice weight, good balance…

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  47. Moehau Man says:

    Mrs Moehau Man (my staunch old mum) says I should christen my new club “The Bear Doctor”

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  48. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Padawan,
    There was never a better use of Hypergamy!

    Moehau Man,
    A club named “Bear Doctor”? This is making me nervous.
    I can’t see anyone other than Anne Murray singing that song. Have a listen. How she keeps a straight face through the performance is beyond me.

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    “Fuzzy I agree re the vodka. It’s a bad look, and it gives ammo to her detractors.”

    I’d have found it funny, if it was water in the bottle.

    I put a few replies in the comments above BTW.

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    If one might be permitted to observe… 😉 … She might have been on the alcohol, but you two appear to be tripping! Did you break out the shrooms, or the bear-nip? 😉

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  51. Farm Boy says:

    The fella in the video suggests that women make their men sammiches. This guys understands. Ladies, listen to him.

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  52. Cill says:

    Explanation of https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2014/12/18/mgtow-why-you-cant-find-a-good-man-smart-guy-answers-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-5283

    “I’m an odd fit on any MGTOW blog already, without adding that on top.”
    It’s more accurate to say “I’m an odd fit amongst MGTOW, without adding that on top.”

    Most MGTOW are men who’ve had bad experience of women, directly and in person. It might have happened to them as single blokes in the SMP or as blokes who have gone through the horrors of break up and divorce. They might be married men hanging on in quiet desperation, usually for the sake of their children, in a marriage from hell.

    I’ve had no such direct, bad personal experience of women. I’ve had bad experience of the Female Establishment that favors girls in every way – health, education, State beneficence, affirmative action, the media. The suffocating bigotry has affected me directly. So far, touch wood, I have yet to suffer directly from the witch hunt that masquerades as “Justice”.

    I’m a MGHOW for two reasons:
    (1) I resist being part of the feminist society in which I live. I’m appalled at the untold damage it has done to male humans and the number of their lives it has taken. This would inevitably have been enough to drive me into MGTOW eventually.
    (2) I have vicariously experienced the feminist-inflicted pain of good men. It infuriates me to think that those great men were destroyed by creatures so much inferior to themselves. Sanctimonious, judgemental, destructive, ridiculous creatures set out to destroy them and succeeded. This is the catalyst that suddenly tipped me into MGTOW.

    So, I’m a MGHOW partly for general reasons and partly by vicarious experience. The places me in a very different position from the direct experience of most MGTOW.

    Also women continue seek interaction with me. I’ve been honest about this. I can’t see the point in being anything else. Not here but on other MGTOW sites, this has placed me on the outer.

    Spawnyspace is one of two sites that I like best.

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  53. Yoda says:

    since I and the Banging Boners performed the piece, do we need Ann Murray?

    Happy you should be.
    Subjects of the Queen both of you are.

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  54. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    There is such a thing as bear-nip? No, we’re just being silly. Iy is a useful distraction from from things that can make you sad.
    The video of the Teddy Bear Picnic is my cure all. It works wonders when I have a nightmar of Andrea Dworkin.

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  55. Yoda says:

    Song of bears posted it was.
    Balance we should have,

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  56. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    Do you think if I visit Russia, there might be some girls who like me? They like him!

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie,
    “There is such a thing as bear-nip? No, we’re just being silly. Iy is a useful distraction from from things that can make you sad.”

    Do you need me to explicitly state that silly is a major component of deciding to make this site? Because, I can so state.

    You have to know what’s going on in the world, but it’s much better if you can sweeten the medicine with some laughs.

    In no way was I criticising the games, better for your viking liver than vodka drunk like Karen appears to have done. I wish that at the end of the video she smiled, winked and said it was water. I haven’t got any issue with alcohol, but…

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  58. sfcton says:

    They ask where have all the good men?

    My reply; alimony. Ok so I answer a lot of these types of questions with alimony but it’s an effective, one word reply.

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  59. Yoda says:

    Effective reply it is.
    Comprehend they do?

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    Alimony, child support for someone else’s kids…what’s not to like?

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  61. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    One of the ramifacations of hypergamy is that SMV rank equals just aren’t good enough. So a guy trying to play in his league is going to get shot down a lot more than he should. A lot of men are thinking that it may be better for their mental health to just go home and read a book.

    Ladies, collectively, you brought these consequuences on your pown heads.

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  62. sfcton says:

    Comprehend they don’t my fine little green friend. The usual reply is NAWALT or that I chose poorly the 1st time. The blue pill is strong in most folks, heavily reinforced by damn near every aspect of society.

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  63. Yoda says:

    I chose poorly the 1st time. The blue pill is strong in most folks

    Influence on your speech I do have

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  64. sfcton says:

    Thank you for that Yoda. That’s why I did 24 years and now do contracting work.

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    Good article Yoda. There’s too much America bashing in US media. Too much supplication to the views of foreign and clothes rending, self hating domestic nutjobs. I’ve never found it hard to socialise or work with you guys.

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