Drama. What is it Good For? Absolutely Nothing.


The first line of Wikipedia’s entry on drama is as follows,

Drama is the specific mode of fiction represented in performance.

Perhaps it is unfair to associate this with women’s penchant for creating what is commonly termed “drama”, but then again, perhaps it is fair. So what is “drama” in women?

From a typical fella’s perspective, it is the creation of unnecessary relationship action (often with heightened tension) for the sake of satisfying a woman’s desire to be relieved from boredom. Any women out there who would beg to differ, please chime in with your perspective. Notice the word unnecessary. That is the big thing from a fella’s perspective. Men are taught to get things done, and are expected to do so from an early age. Unneeded relationship hassles are not conducive to getting things done.

Also notice that the part about relieving her boredom. Men for the most part have no real objection to this. But they would prefer that women find some other way to do so. That way, the women are only wasting their own time. Perhaps things would be different if men thought of drama as somehow fun. But this is almost never the case, at least with real men (perhaps Pajama Boy might find drama endearing).

Today on the way out from work walking down the sidewalk I heard two women blabbing about a third women that they knew. The original question was whether she should leave her husband or stay in the marriage for the sake of the children. This is a very serious question, but how were they considering it? They were emphasizing the “drama” aspects of it. Stuff about the “back and forth” of the marital tension. Was there any consideration of the moral aspects? Perhaps of what might be best for the children? I think that we know the answer.

Addendum:

It seems that there are three main reasons for women doing drama

1.  Boredom

2. Shit Tests

3. Malice

In the original post I effectively gave women the benefit of the doubt with respect to motivations, but it seems that many commenters believe that some women just like to make men miserable.

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81 comments on “Drama. What is it Good For? Absolutely Nothing.
  1. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    There is an old saying about “adventure”. It takes place far away a long time ago.
    That is how men wish to deal with adventure and drama-far away and long ago.

    The two women on the sidewalk are not good friends to the third. It does bring up a point. Peer pressure is strong among women. They can torpedo the marriage. It shouldn’t be that way.

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  2. Cill says:

    Hmm. This is where I should take a look at jf12 which, according to theasdgamer, goes “on and on about how some women have personality disorders that cause them to be happy if they cause grief to a man”. I have no personal experience of this, but I have seen two women get happiness out of causing grief to their men. They did it out of hatred, not so much for their husbands in particular as for the entire male gender. Much drama there was.

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    So women do drama out of boredom AND malice?

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  4. Cill says:

    In the two cases I’m talking about, yes. Malice, supported enthusiastically by other women from a feminist group of some sort. Men deserve it, don’t you know.

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  5. Yoda says:

    Drama good for anything it is?

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  6. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Drama out of boredom is one thing.
    Out of malice is quite another.
    Instances of this will send men running into the hills.

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  7. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    Peace and quiet men like.
    Drama women like.
    That Mrs. Yoda stays busy to keep her desire for drama ay bay, I would bet.

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  8. Yoda says:

    “Making a sammich a day keeps the drama away”

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  9. I will say in the past year + I have been following the manosphere, I cannot recall on single blog or male commenter on a blog say they love drama or find it attractive/appealing/endearing.

    That said, even I fall prey to women drama at times, although I try to extract myself quick! It’s apparently a “girl” thing. Women are much more dependant on the “tribe” so that makes sense even tho it clearly was never intended to function at reality TV drama level.

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  10. Spawny Get says:

    I suspect that my divorce was largely caused by drama seeking work colleagues after my pretty newly wed wife changed jobs. Her mother probably helped it along. Accepting her tall tales credulously. By the time her parents started waking up to her dramatic fantasies and listening to me, my wife had done things that ended the marriage. I fucking love drama, me.

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  11. Spawny Get says:

    Anyone got stats on the sex distribution of reality tv horror shows? I suspect they’re heavily skewed toward women, with pussy begging beta boys coming second, followed by gay men. I’ve not watched a single episode of any of them.

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  12. Yoda says:

    Inspiration for title here it is.

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  13. Yoda says:

    Pajama Boy prototypical male he is not,

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  14. Spawny Get says:

    Got to love the PJgina. He perfectly sums up the totality of that…demographic. He also highlighted the immense disconnect between the media manipulators and the majority of the public.

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  15. Liz says:

    “Today on the way out from work walking down the sidewalk I heard two women blabbing about a third women that they knew. The original question was whether she should leave her husband or stay in the marriage for the sake of the children. This is a very serious question, but how were they considering it? They were emphasizing the “drama” aspects of it. Stuff about the “back and forth” of the marital tension. Was there any consideration of the moral aspects? Perhaps of what might be best for the children? I think that we know the answer.”

    I’ve overheard these types of conversations too, and the thing that always strikes me is how much they sound like highschool. I knew a young woman a few years back (ended up divorced, like her other friends, divorce is catchy in herds) who would complain about her husband like he was an annoying boyfriend.
    “He doesn’t like it when I phone other guys/keep in touch with my ex on Facebook”.
    She had a toddler aged child…wtf was she doing flirting around with other guys?
    Then she demanded a divorce and complained that he was mad and didn’t want to pay for her college or watch the baby when she went to classes. Imagine that! She was in her mid-twenties, but she could have been 13 as far as emotional maturity/responsibility.

    These women are seriously developmentally delayed.

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  16. Liz says:

    The “rape culture” meme, “street harassment” meme, frivorce craze are all related to this need for drama. It funds the psych industry and a large portion of the legal and (hat tip, Swithy on reality peep shows) entertainment industry.

    I wonder how much of our GDP is invested in women’s need for drama? Probably more than even our healthcare industry.

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    Looking at the SJWs in SFF, Gamergate, MetalGate, the manginas in education…I think that there’s an epidemic of mental issues. And not temporary ones, not ones you just say “it was just a phase i was going through, I’m all right now”. There appear to be large numbers of people with difficulty in recognising reality, logic, morality and consequences…and immense apparent self hatred that they insist we all should partake of.

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  18. Yoda says:

    These women are seriously developmentally delayed

    Delayed you suggest.
    Ever get there they will?

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  19. Yoda says:

    I wonder how much of our GDP is invested in women’s need for drama?

    Metric of society’s development it could be.
    “Percentage of GDP invested in drama”.

    Perhaps “dedevelopment” a better description it is.

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  20. Spawny Get says:

    “Ever get there they will?”

    Most of the unmarried over forty year olds seem to be acquainted with reality, at least tangentially*

    (* I apologise, I seem to be passing through a period of grandiloquence (one for Molly?) I am unable to establish the proximate cause of this)

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    H/T MV on Dalrock (though I’ve seen it before)

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  22. Spawny Get says:

    A little musicological diversification wot u mite knot ‘ave erd ov b4 ljke

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    And Spawny veers crazily back on topic with this one Sung by Shirley T-1001 Manson

    as T-1001

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  24. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    It occurs to me that what we are talking about here is so basic, it should be presumed to be covered. This is about maturity issues.
    Words are failing me.

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  25. Yoda says:

    Big red hair she has.
    “Big Red” actually used in good context it is

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    Endlessly on topic.

    “Pour your misery down on me…I’m only happy when it rains”

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    Rolling back a few decades. Searching for something Moe might like, but might not have heard.

    (OMFG – the dancing!)

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  28. Cill says:

    “I wonder how much of our GDP is invested in women’s need for drama? Probably more than even our healthcare industry.”
    Good question. We’d have to include the big % of divorce and DV and rape that result from drama, which would be 100% if we’re talking about drama in the broadest sense.

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  29. Cill says:

    I’m pissed off I can’t play the videos. I like Kosheen, I wanna listen to Kosheen! Now! (plate smash! Drama)

    Molly told me she had some tech trouble when I was away.

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  30. Cill says:

    My hardware is okay. Damn, it’s the cable. There are cons as well as pros in paradise.

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    Just saw Sucker Punch had appear on one of my streaming services…this song is perfect (the original is better music, but this video is prettier 😉 ) if you apply the filter

    %s/Love/Drama/g

    Drama is the drug

    A visually stunning film

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  32. Cill says:

    I gotta go out in a gale and fix a cable. Yeah! Man Drama! Like! 🙂

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    So is Kosheen new, or a forgotten favourite?

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    The script we were sold

    the reality?

    CANNOT not give this one…

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  35. Cill says:

    I’ll have much disconnection today. It’ll be short pithy comments from my end, like this one from the world’s most vainglorious poet:

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  36. Padawan says:

    Big Red’s Wet Dream (by Padawan, Poet Laureate 2014 – ?)

    She opens her mouth to scream
    Does Big Red in her wet dream
    That’s when for fun
    You should shove in a bun
    And watch her lips whip it to cream.

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    Kate Bush – Babooshka 1980

    She wanted to test her husband.
    She knew exactly what to do:
    A pseudonym to fool him.
    She couldn’t have made a worse move.

    She sent him scented letters,
    And he received them with a strange delight.
    Just like his wife
    But how she was before the tears,
    And how she was before the years flew by,
    And how she was when she was beautiful.

    She signed the letter

    “All yours,
    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!
    All yours,
    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!”

    She wanted to take it further,
    So she arranged a place to go,
    To see if he
    Would fall for her incognito.
    And when he laid eyes on her,
    He got the feeling they had met before.
    Uncanny how she
    Reminds him of his little lady,
    Capacity to give him all he needs,
    Just like his wife before she freezed on him,
    Just like his wife when she was beautiful.

    He shouted out,

    All yours,
    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!
    All yours,
    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!
    All yours,
    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!”

    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!”
    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!”
    Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!”

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  38. Cill says:

    Polite, sensible, pithy comments

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    “You should shove in a bun”

    I see you needed the rhyme…but you’re gonna need a loaf

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  40. Cill says:

    True. Or a fatted calf. Trouble is, they can’t be whipped to cream

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  41. Cill says:

    Meat Loaf would fix ‘er up

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  42. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    “How much of our GDP is invested in women’s drama?”
    Liz alluded that a lot of it is iin health care expense. ManWomanMyth pointed out that, in England, seventy five percent is spent on women, leaving twenty five percent for men.
    I am beginning to think that it is incalcuable..We’ll have some idea if enough men stay single leading women to be self supporting.
    \I’ll bet, once the numbers are in, it’ll be a shocker.

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  43. Cill says:

    Like a bat outta hell

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  44. Cill says:

    A cow between two bread vans would do, for the world’s biggest bun and we’d get cream.

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  45. Yoda says:

    I’ve overheard these types of conversations too, and the thing that always strikes me is how much they sound like highschool.

    Because they can is why they do.

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  46. Yoda says:

    A cow between two bread vans would do, for the world’s biggest bun and we’d get cream.

    Two out of three bad it is not.

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  47. Cill says:

    Sorry for interrupting there, Fuzzy. I wonder what % goes to women overall. Take the cost of the State as hubby- daddy and white knight in divorce and DV. Add on the extra expenditure on girls in education (special math programs, $36000 USD per year per female engineering student for just turning up at classes) and what have we got?

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  48. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    I have had this argument with a woman before. Getting away with something is not the same as having the right of it.
    I seem to remember being cautioned about indulging in “the end justifying the means” mindset. Was this a tactic to handicap the honest?

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  49. Cill says:

    Spawny were those the lyrics of that old Kate Bush song “Babooshka”, or the lyrics as modified by you?

    [SG – those were the lyrics as written on the youtube video – I think they’re authentic. It’s a track I’ve listened to a lot over the years]

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie,

    I’ve seen the same arguments about divorce settlements. It must have been fair; he signed it.

    No sweetie, he signed it because all things considered it was likely the best deal he thought he’d get when bargaining under the shadow of the law. When the law is corrupt, or the court enforcement of it is…the settlement has no need to be in spitting distance of fair.

    Dalrock – Bargaining in the shadow of the law.

    PSA Warning, take your blood pressure meds, aim for a mood of sang froid (cold blood), your piss may boil etc etc. Dalrock’s article contains more than this snippet.

    One common bit of misdirection I see when the issue of unfairness in the divorce/custody process is discussed is the argument that men are voluntarily agreeing to the terms. How can the process be unfair if men agreed with the result? Just the other day commenter bonifacii used this argument when discussing the case of Hulk Hogan’s settlement (emphasis his):

    …indeed, she got 70% of the money they had in bank (which actually translated to $7M – a pretty modest amount in celebrity divorces), but she got only 40% ownership in his companies (less than half) and no alimony. However this is a moot point because this wasn’t awarded by a judge – it was the result of settlement, and you can settle on whatever terms you want.

    This seem to be typical in the manosphere – most of the things people got “a case for anger” is something which is either completely made up, or had nothing to do with the law. I’ve been a member of several forums for a while, Lack of credibility is what I see as the main issue with the whole manosphere.

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  51. Cill says:

    I can’t listen to it unfortunately, my connection cuts out. I’ll fix the problem later (still a bit dark here at 6:42 am)

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  52. Spawny Get says:

    Cill – I answered your question above.

    “those were the lyrics as written on the youtube video – I think they’re authentic. It’s a track I’ve listened to a lot over the years”

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  53. Cill says:

    More re “the cost of the State as hubby- daddy and white knight in divorce and DV”
    On Channel 9 a Police spokesman, when asked why the police didn’t do a better job of monitoring a known dangerous criminal (the gunman in the hostage drama), said the Police are too busy dealing with such things as the huge number of domestic violence complaints.

    The cost is more than can be measured in money.

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  54. Yoda says:

    Drama sometimes shit tests they are.

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  55. Cill says:

    And you can bet your bottom dollar the cop who said that will be hauled over the coals by the “SJWs” (Social Justice Weasels)

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  56. Spawny Get says:

    Triggering The Red Pill

    Red pill lyrics

    ermm…just memories

    et encore

    Just a song about an everyday welder by day, exotic dancer by night…thousands of them there are

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  57. Yoda says:

    And you can bet your bottom dollar the cop who said that will be hauled over the coals by the SWJs

    Happen not it will.
    DV is men badly behaving they say.
    More cops to oppress evil men needed they are.

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  58. Spawny Get says:

    And that’s it, I think..so just need a happy ending

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  59. Cill says:

    Edit “hauled over the coals by the SWJs”
    “SWJs” should have been “SJWs” (Social Justice Weasels)

    [SG – fixed it for you, though I prefer Social ‘Justice’ Weasels myself. Feel the irony added by the quotes]

    Are you saying the SJWs won’t haul him over the coals for his media statement?

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  60. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    It has been a while since I have thought about sexual harrassment in the workplace. It’s gotten out of hand, to the point where work is a hostile enviornment for men. However, men have no legal recourse.

    Yarm, you may want to watch this.
    Given these circumstances, an enviorment this hostile is not conducive to getting work done.

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  61. Yoda says:

    Make hay about DV they will.
    Victims they are.
    Victims they want to be.

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  62. Spawny Get says:

    Men at Work you say?

    Always balance the down with some up. Getting pissed off won’t help. Know the truth and move forward in your own way.

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  63. Cill says:

    As sure as the day dies in the West, they’ll pillory him starting today.

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  64. Cill says:

    Thanks for the fix, Spawny. there’s still a “SWJ” at https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2014/12/16/drama-what-is-it-good-for-absolutely-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-5089

    Actually “SWJ” (Social Weasel ‘Justice’) works quite well too, but I must resist the urge to add yet another acronym.

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    Seeing as we passed 5000 comments very early this morning (proper time / GMT), here’re a few stats

    Top Authors for all days ending 2014-12-16 (Summarized) vs Views
    Spawny Get 10,013
    Tarnished 1,316
    Farm Boy 1,187
    Cill 252
    Moehau Man 148

    Top ten posts by view (excluding home page 3,405) vs Views
    (admittedly views may be more to do with where the comments went)
    MGTOW hitting the Media 667
    A great point, a great question. Got any opinions? 665
    ‘Feminists’ don’t have to be your audience. ‘Feminists’ are over 616
    The SJW train wreck. MOAR please. 571
    Conversation from Tarn’s Place: Helping A MGTOW Spread His Message 534
    MGTOW – not just giving up. 496
    Mug punters. “The people have spoken – the b******s!” 458
    Except I Really Don’t Care… 455
    Hat Tip to Fuzzie – MRA becomes female supporting MGTOW 421
    Learned Helplessness 407

    Views by country (though I suspect that my script control may have distorted the UK)
    A shout out to the lurkers – come join in if you have something positive to say about men.

    United States 11,835
    New Zealand 2,859
    Canada 549
    United Kingdom 516
    Singapore 351
    Australia 41
    Ireland 29
    Germany 25
    Norway 25
    Poland 9
    South Africa 6
    Finland 5
    France 4
    Spain 4
    Japan 3
    Italy 3
    United Arab Emirates 3
    Mexico 3
    India 3
    Indonesia 3
    Hong Kong 2
    Netherlands 2
    Sweden 2
    Liechtenstein 2
    Malawi 2
    Czech Republic 1
    Denmark 1
    Georgia 1
    Slovakia 1
    Hungary 1
    Portugal 1
    Romania 1
    Russian Federation 1
    Switzerland 1
    Bahrain 1
    Belgium 1
    Estonia 1

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    “I must resist the urge to add yet another acronym.”

    Some might say they might cause confusion, but…(brace yourself) I think that they’re weasily distinguishable because one’s stoataly different from the other.

    I’ll get me coat

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  67. Yoda says:

    In a legal proceeding, defense attorneys for Drew and A.S. would have access to all five pieces of this exculpatory evidence. Under UVA’s so-called “through” inquiry, however, most and perhaps all of this critical information never would have come before the Investigator

    These are not the scapegoats you are looking for.

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  68. Farm Boy says:

    Drama, huh yeah
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, oh hoh, oh
    Drama huh yeah
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, say it again y’all
    Drama, huh good God
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, listen to me

    Oh, drama, I despise
    ‘Cause it means destruction of innocent lives
    Drama means tears to thousands of children’s eyes
    With their moms addicted to the rise that it supplies

    I said
    Drama, huh good God y’all
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, just say it again
    Drama whoa Lord
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, listen to me
    Drama, it ain’t nothin’ but a heartbreaker
    Drama, fiend to the content homemaker

    Oh drama, is an enemy to all mankind
    The thought of drama blows my mind
    Drama has caused distress within the younger generation
    Induction, then destruction all for a high

    Drama, good God, y’all
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, say it, say it, say it
    Drama, uh huh, yeah, huh
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, listen to me
    Drama, it ain’t nothin’ but a heartbreaker
    Drama, fiend to the content homemaker

    Oh, drama has shattered many young man’s dreams
    Made him disabled bitter and mean
    Life is much too short and precious to spend enduring drama these days
    Drama can’t give bliss it can only take it away, ooh

    Drama, huh, good God y’all
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, say it again
    Drama, whoa, Lord
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing, listen to me
    Drama, it ain’t nothin’ but a heartbreaker
    Drama, fiend to the content homemaker

    Peace love and understanding tell me
    Is there no place for them today
    They say men must acquiesce to keep our women
    But Lord knows there’s got to be a better way

    Drama, huh, good God y’all
    What is it good for?
    You tell ’em, say it, say it, say it, say it
    Drama, good Lord, huh
    What is it good for?
    Stand up and shout it, nothing
    Drama, it ain’t nothin’ but a heartbreaker

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  69. Yoda says:

    Adapt to her rules she says,

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2014/12/math-class-is-tough-wsj.html

    [Good find, liked it]

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  70. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    All thi8s talk about women and drama, it makes me realize that this has only come to the fore with women being encouraged to be narcissistic.

    While women have been acting in concert for decades, It ‘s time for men to do as much. Collectively, we have to start walking away from this foolishness.

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  71. Spawny Get says:

    Historically speaking ‘collectively’ and ‘men’ and ‘SMP/MMP’ haven’t really got on well, Fuzzy. However, 25% of men (made up number) leaving the marriage marketplace will give women one hell of a problem (4 women to every 3 men willing to commit, kind of thing – again, rough numbers). YOU don’t need to be in the 25% to benefit. Nobody gets to call the 75% ‘traitors’, though the more GTOW the faster the progress.

    I find it easy to GMOW, but I won’t shame a brother for doing what he has to do. I merely try to make him aware of the realities, then let him choose his own path. I think you’ll find my path rather painful, but I’d rather someone closer to your reality talks about things you might consider.

    Be strong, brother, but you choose your acceptable paths.

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  72. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I think it was Paul Elam who said that, once we reach ten percent red pill awareness, that is when all the change will happen.
    I don’t know. BYW there is now where for me to go with this except this little corner of the internet.
    May this find you well rested tomorrow.

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  73. Yoda says:

    once we reach ten percent red pill awareness, that is when all the change will happen.

    Doing my part I am

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  74. Yoda says:

    Drama Lena does,

    http://thewilderness.me/the-trouble-with-lena/

    [SG – Don’t know why but this hit the spam filter. One of my first two false positives. If it happens again, please let me know. I am starting to get some spam, sooner or later I’m going to miss a real comment that has been caught up]

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  75. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    A good overview from Captain Capitalism, Aaron Clarey.

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  76. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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