Learned Helplessness


From Wikipedia,

Summary

In learned helplessness studies, an animal is repeatedly exposed to an aversive stimulus which it cannot escape. Eventually, the animal stops trying to avoid the stimulus and behaves as if it is helpless to change the situation. When opportunities to escape become available, learned helplessness means the animal does not take any action.

Detail

In Part 1 of Seligman and Steve Maier’s experiment, three groups of dogs were placed in harnesses. Group 1 dogs were simply put in the harnesses for a period of time and later released. Groups 2 and 3 consisted of “yoked pairs.” A dog in Group 2 would be intentionally subjected to pain by being given electric shocks, which the dog could end by pressing a lever. A Group 3 dog was wired in series with a Group 2 dog, receiving shocks of identical intensity and duration, but his lever did not stop the electric shocks. To a dog in Group 3, it seemed that the shock ended at random, because it was his paired dog in Group 2 that was causing it to stop. For Group 3 dogs, the shock was apparently “inescapable.” Group 1 and Group 2 dogs quickly recovered from the experience, but Group 3 dogs learned to be helpless, and exhibited symptoms similar to chronic clinical depression.

In Part 2 of the Seligman and Maier experiment, these three groups of dogs were tested in a shuttle-box apparatus, in which the dogs could escape electric shocks by jumping over a low partition. For the most part, the Group 3 dogs, who had previously learned that nothing they did had any effect on the shocks, simply lay down passively and whined. Even though they could have easily escaped the shocks, the dogs didn’t try. Their lack of attempt was due to an effect called retardation of learning. Learning that response and shock are independent made it more difficult to learn that a response does produce relief by terminating shock. The emotional stress that the dogs experience when learning that the trauma is uncontrollable produced failure to escape.

Consider the man of times past.  The world in many ways was much harsher than that of today.  He really was not in total control of his situation.  Earning a living could be difficult.  Life in general could be difficult.  But one thing that he did have in his favor was a well defined system that encouraged work and trying to better one’s self.  Moreover the steps defining improvement were often modest, allowing a man to move up “one step at a time”.  And of course, there was the big carrot: “the better that I become, the better my wife (and life) will be”.  When he married, he was the head of the family.  His decisions had clear impact, and the responsibility for making adequate choices was his.

Consider the modern day.  Young men have almost no modest incremental steps in their younger years with respect to courting.  A typical scenario follows. A man has little success early and often, and as such has little incentive to develop himself.  So the twenties become wasted years for the him.  Eventually in his thirties, he gets some attention, and marries.  He is not her first choice and her contempt quickly works its way into the marriage.  He is confused.  Nothing he does seems to improve the situation.  Eventually, he becomes a father.  She is control, because women know best when it comes to children.  Things deteriorate more. The laws are stacked against him, so he is trapped in the marriage until she decides to divorce him.  He becomes a drone, and just takes it.  Helping make this result happen is the fact that men are supposed to be tough, and are expected to tolerate whatever is thrown at them.

What is the core fundamental truth of the typical modern man?  If he travels down the path that society has set for him, he will have almost no control over anything.  No matter what he does if he takes this path, he will be punished.  The punishment will seem random and arbitrary.  And then he dies.

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155 comments on “Learned Helplessness
  1. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Good grief, Farm Boy! This is bleak.
    What you forgot to add is that, for the duration, he will be vilified for his efforts. He will look in the mirror and see Homer Simpson staring back.
    God did not intend this.

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  2. Yoda says:

    Laws make it so he can control not.
    Modern societal conventions ememasculate they do.
    MGTOW to control it does lead.

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  3. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I can see the argument. Don’t step into the harness, don’t allow someone else to have their hand on the switch that causes you misery.
    It’s not a complete solution but, it will force a review of the current situation.

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  4. Whatever scientists who did the experiment should be shocked over and over. Poor pups! Disturbing. 😦

    But I think it is true, people in seemingly no win situations simply give up and accept their fate.

    Don’t forget though that this resignation in the experiment is an illusion, the way out was right over the wall…

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  5. molly says:

    I leave a comment here for Spawny to cure his inhibition against Like-click.

    Spawny hover the mouse over the blue star! Hold it, hold it… Relax… CLICK See? Not so bad was it? Do it again twice more. CLICK CLICK Cool, eh!

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  6. Spawny Get says:

    Molly, the trouble is that I’ve always had an affinity for even numbers. Every time I click, I just have to click again.

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  7. Spawny Get says:

    “the way out was right over the wall…”

    indeedy. And Unkie Spawny is ready to give any who need it a bunk up over that wall…run free mes amis.

    Stop playing the rigged game, go find something more fun and more fulfilling to do. Nothing is going to get fixed until women are hurting because they can’t get a pack mule to saddle up.

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  8. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Spawny, I’m at work today, but I’ll check email when I get home tonight. Ignoring you, I am not.

    [SG – OH NO, catching it is!
    I sent you the draft to peruse (your text is entirely intact).
    I’d really like to post it at least a few hours before I go to bed, because I want to be able to free any new commenters’ comments.
    Can I just stick it up? I don’t foresee any reason for it to disappoint you in any way]

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  9. Yoda says:

    Learned helpless was a bug it is?
    Learned helpless was a feature it is?

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  10. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Okay, but if I’m disappointed, it’s totally on you. 😉

    [SG – take a goosy at the front page, let me know. Thank you very much for the great material]

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  11. Yoda says:

    Group 3 dogs learned to be helpless, and exhibited symptoms similar to chronic clinical depression.

    Men’s suicide rate this does explain.

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    “Men’s suicide rate this does explain.”

    I think it is a factor, yes.

    I have to go with learned helplessness being a feature TBH. Not a huge trip for women, but I hope my brethren are more resistant.

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  13. Yoda says:

    I have to go with learned helplessness being a feature TBH.

    Life dfficult to handle when in the middle of [it] you are.

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  14. Yoda says:

    “Middle of it” it should be.

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  15. Yoda says:

    Fellow Jedi married to ugly harpie he is.
    Convince him that he could impcove his situation I cannot.
    For the record -divorce i did not advocate.

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  16. Yoda says:

    “the way out was right over the wall…”

    In modern context “game” this would be.
    Foolproof it is not.

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  17. Yoda says:

    A more helpless situation than being divorce raped there is?

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  18. Spawny Get says:

    Just add kids for the nightmare scenario

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  19. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Looks good, Spawny. Thanks for you’re help. I won’t post again until I get home, as it’s a pain from the phone.

    [SG – No, thank you. You delivered the payload…Boom! to coin a phrase]

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  20. Yoda says:

    What you forgot to add is that, for the duration, he will be vilified for his efforts.

    Odd this is.
    Why would this be?

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  21. molly says:

    “Every time I click, I just have to click again.”
    Not on aa certain blue star you don’t! 😉 One single reflex click every time it is! You better click me or I’ll say who it is, on the new post too! >:D

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  22. molly says:

    Just kidding 😉 I wouldn’t do that to my Unca Spawny

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  23. molly says:

    He is a sensitive soul ^^’

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  24. Spawny Get says:

    No squirrel picture for you then…ooooohhhh, I spoil you kids rotten

    so much for squirrel proof bird feeder

    That’s the problem with the current generation of squirrel, no respect for their elders and ‘betters’

    Clearly Spawny will be returning the alleged ‘Squirrel proof bird feeder’.

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  25. Spawny Get says:

    #Gamergate cost Gawker Media “seven figures” in lost advertising revenue, so it’s at least got that going for it. http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2014/12/8558320/gawker-discusses-cost-gamergate

    Hey, a million here, a million there, pretty soon you’re talking about real money.

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  26. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    Bird feeders? Why not go straight to the source?

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  27. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    You are very much on the right track with this and it is crushing men. It didn’t used to be as bad. Do you think that as hypergamy was released, men grew more thirsty as a consequence? The thirstiness has got to stop being a factor in the SMP and for this to happen, a lot of men are going to have to take a long break from it.

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  28. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve seen that squizzel growing up from a baby, just out of the egg, I reckon. One day he’s going to get stuck and I’m going to have to choose between squirrel mm-mm-delicious pasty (don’t tell Tarn not nothing) and risking my fingers to let him out. Cheeky bugger didn’t run when I opened the window and took some pictures.

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  29. Yoda says:

    Do you think that as hypergamy was released, men grew more thirsty as a consequence?

    A good post topic for Farm Boy this would be.

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  30. Yoda says:

    “Ultimately #GamerGate is reaffirming what we’ve known to be true for decades: nerds should be constantly shamed and degraded into submission,” Gawker writer Sam Biddle tweeted in October, sparking a firestorm of outrage which solidified into a sustained letter-writing campaign to Gawker’s advertisers

    Money quote this was.
    Think this way they do.
    Cool people do oppress and exploit.
    But cool they still are.

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    Due process they would deny,

    The accusation is sufficient, the man must fry

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Can’t believe I spent all that time sticking that squirrel in the cage as a baby, feeding it conscientiously for six months until it couldn’t escape…and I get nada from Molly. And there’s Tarn, who claims to love animals, not a word about squirrel pasties (nom nom nom)

    There ain’t no justice.

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  33. Yoda says:

    not a word about squirrel pasties

    Pastie for lunch i had.
    Yummy they are.

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  34. Liz says:

    “And there’s Tarn, who claims to love animals, not a word about squirrel pasties

    Are those little pies, or those adhesive things one puts over the nipples?

    Either way, I’m sure your pasties are divine, Swithy. 😛

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    Is that
    Paysteez
    Passteez
    Pahsteez

    Not heard tassels called that. Might age, nationality or me short term memory.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    The Cornish call them paahhsteez.
    I call ’em pasteez (rhymes with nasties).
    If you stick ’em on, I guess paysteez.

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  37. molly says:

    I cal ’em “pasteez” rhymes with “ass tease”

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  38. molly says:

    Nope. No Like_clicks for you. Fair’s fair!

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  39. Yoda says:

    Molly the Kiwi ate a pastie

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    ‘Likes!!!’ Or the squizzell gets it…

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  41. Yoda says:

    Gun you do not have.

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  42. Spawny Get says:

    Don’t need one, anyway aren’t they frowned upon in the cage fighting game?

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  43. molly says:

    You put a bird box in wire mesh with soldered intersections? Every Kiwi gal worth her salt knows better’n that! I thought you Brits were practical men 😛

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  44. molly says:

    Molly the Kiwi a pastie ate 😛

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  45. Spawny Get says:

    I’m actually raising a squirrel army. Here are my first two fluffy tailed warriors. I’ll just get me camera BRB

    squiz left

    right squiz

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  46. Yoda says:

    A pastie did eat Molly.
    A big blob it would be

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  47. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Whjen Spawny said, “Like , or the squirrel gets it., it made me think of this.

    Do you think MGTOW might be a good idea for Misery Bear?

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  48. molly says:

    I like the pointing monkey better.
    http://en.gravatar.com/swithunus#photo-2

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    Evil Monkey? It’s been a while.

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  50. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    For those who need mind bleach from seeing the trailer to Steve McQueen’s first starring role,

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  51. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda, 6.1 per 1000 is NOT one in five! Where do these SJWs get off exaggeraqting to this extent.

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  52. molly says:

    Can they win by throwing so much effluent at us, we accept it like a status quo? Or helplessly give up?

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  53. molly says:

    It’s brainwashing like in North Korea! 😡 (me mad)

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  54. molly says:

    Hey everybody! Spawny gave me a Like-Click! He put it on “I cal ‘em “pasteez” rhymes with “ass tease”
    So that sorta comment gets the Spawny-clicks! Now I know, be coarse! 🙂

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  55. Yoda says:

    Where do these SJWs get off

    Good question this is.

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  56. Yoda says:

    Here are my first two fluffy tailed warriors.

    A Clone Army it will be.

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  57. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    “Where do these SJWs get off?”
    Hopefully, in private. Beyond that, I don’t want to know.

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  58. molly says:

    Spawny rhyme:

    Due process they would deny,

    The accusation is sufficient, the man must fry

    (The best line is the one in the middle XD (chuckle snort!))

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  59. molly says:

    “Odd this is.
    Why would this be?”

    Coz he’s the bogeyman
    The Patriarchy

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  60. Yoda says:

    The accusation is sufficient

    Train women on how to best accuse they will.

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  61. Yoda says:

    God save McQueen.

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  62. molly says:

    ‘“Where do these SJWs get off?”
    Hopefully, in private. Beyond that, I don’t want to know.’

    There’s none in private tho! We see all the getting off they ever do! All their jollies are in public! Pathetic, eh. They are miserable. 😦
    Not like Bear and Yoda (Spawny is jolly only when clicking Like) 🙂

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  63. Farm Boy says:

    There’s none in private tho!

    I am thinking in terms of Lena Dunham. Do we concur?

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  64. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    In contrast to the original post, wtching Steve McQuenn is empowering.

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  65. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Bill Price did say that Lena Dunham did have an inordinate number of nude scenes in her series. At the time, I was not acquainted with her and thought it was highly unual for a red blooded man to complain about a young woman doing nude scenes.
    Now, I understand.

    Please, Lena, keep it yo yourself. Don’t share.

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  66. molly says:

    Holy Molly the second old car was a mustang. What was the first one? Sounded like they de-clutched when changing up! Why? What an awesome awesome car chase!

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  67. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Molly,
    The black car was a Dodge Charger. The company has recently brought the model back and it’s popular with law enforcement.
    The green Mustang was specially prepared by Steve McQueen.
    Yes, they were double clutching on upshifts.

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  68. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    “Rape culture” has to be something that people take on faith. There is no basis in fact. Was that you or Yoda that linked to Ace of Spades and the Dept. of Justice report citing 6.1 in one thousand?
    WWhen will the mainstream media clamp down on promoting these lies?

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  69. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    Over at Dalrock’s the idea is being kicked around that Jackie’s story is a complete fabrication. Under normal circumstances, anyone other than fembots would not be able to survive this controversy0.

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  70. molly says:

    MSM, Shanley, Biddle, bedfellows. Stark raving bonkers waste of space. See that dolphin it’s Biddle, he’s the worst! See the Orca, it’s me, CRASHING DOWN ON HIM and he gasps I g-i-i-ve! in my most luvliest dream.

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  71. molly says:

    Spawny awake at 3:23 am? Relax… Spawny do a sleepy-click on my Like-star now!

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  72. molly says:

    CLICK here
    v (pointing down)

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  73. Spawny Get says:

    Goodnight Molly. Hopefully Tarka Dal (YouTube that + red dwarf) can keep you amused…

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  74. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Those who are stark raving bonkers should try screaming yellow zonkers.

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  75. molly says:

    Thank you! Go back to sleep and dream of single click on Molly Like…

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  76. Spawny Get says:

    Quid pro quo, Clarice, quid pro quo

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  77. molly says:

    Down Under, I get it Spawny Unca! I give a token Like, you win.. for now.
    You are s-l-e-e-e-p-y back to sleep you go and dream of single click on Molly Like…

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  78. molly says:

    Clarice, a dancer Isle of Wight. One side of my fam damnilly were pirates from the “south island” (Wight) who made their fortune during Liz 1st…

    You are s-l-e-e-e-p-y back to sleep you go and dream of single click on Molly Like…
    You are s-l-e-e-e-p-y back to sleep you go and dream of single click on Molly Like…

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  79. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    i am getting s l e e p y. Must register with WordPress to “like” Molly’s comments.

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  80. molly says:

    More s-l-e-e-e-p-y… s-l-e-e-e-p-y… WordPress … Like Molly… Like Molly…

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  81. molly says:

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  82. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Trying to expand my repitoire beyond bears.

    Molly like?

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  83. molly says:

    Orca are ruthless. You saw a Dolphin-hunting pod culture there. When I watch Orca hunt it’s not pretty. The water turns red and people don’t laugh

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  84. molly says:

    Those are real dumb people Fuzzie. If the penguin stands on the gunwhale ( which he’s doing coz he can feel them underneath and he’s scared out of his wits) they’ll see him and come up to get him and swamp the boat. From underneath they already know he’s there in the boat! Stupid people. If you watch, an Orca almost did. I’ve done some dumb things but nothing dumb as that.

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  85. molly says:

    Okay on second view it looks like Antarctica, Penguins not Dolphins. So in a Penguin-hunting pod culture they have a Penguin on the inflatable…

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  86. molly says:

    — y-e-e-s it jumped in the boat! Is Fuzzy’s new forte Orca videos?

    Let’s see. Bear ears are cool. They have round ears and Orca have none. Bear ears would not cleave the water, they would slow Orca down.. Elephants can play keyboards with their trunks, Orca can’t.. All 3 ( 🐻 :orca: :elephant: ) are good!

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  87. Yoda says:

    Orca are ruthless. When I watch Orca hunt it’s not pretty. The water turns red and people don’t laugh

    The inspiration for feminism I presume.

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  88. Spawny Get says:

    Wow, hardcore stuff

    http://victorygirlsblog.com/lena-dunham-i-dont-believe-you/

    On Buzzfeed this week Lena Dunham kept up her nonsense about her “sexual assualt”. Here is my response.
    Lena Dunham, I don’t believe you. I don’t believe anything that comes out of your mouth. I don’t believe that you were raped or sexually assaulted. I don’t believe that you are a victim or a survivor.

    I believe that you are a psychopath that needs to be the center of attention. I do believe that you are an uncaring, unintelligent, immoral liar. I do believe that you were foolish enough to think that you could write whatever you wanted in your pointless book without any repercussions. I do believe that you didn’t think people would try to find out who your alleged rapist was, and you didn’t think that you would quite probably ruin a man’s life. I believe you didn’t care one bit.

    Do you know that when I first started telling people that I was being abused no one believed me? Why? Because women like you, Lena, who come forward with these unbelievably vague allegations, trying to “protect” your abuser, ruin it for those of us who are trying to escape a horrifying situation. We need help, but no one believes us because liars like you, and many, many more, have some psychotic idea that it would be fun to pretend to be a victim for a little while… mostly just so that you can get the title “survivor” and achieve some momentary fame.

    there’s more.

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  89. molly says:

    I brainwashed Spawny in his sleep and it worked! Liz too! 😀 I must give him a few clicks to keep him happy. Clicks are the opiate of the people! 😉

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  90. molly says:

    Hell’s teeth hardcore stuff is right! I shall read!
    (genuine Like from me)

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  91. Yoda says:

    Cosmic convergence this is.

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  92. Yoda says:

    Money quote this is,

    “Men today may feel less pressure to find jobs because they are less likely than previous generations to be providing for others. Only 28 percent of men without jobs — compared with 58 percent of women — said a child under 18 lived with them.”

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  93. molly says:

    Where is Mr F. Wuzzie Bear today?

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  94. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda,
    That’s me that is.

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  95. Yoda says:

    Where is Mr F. Wuzzie Bear today?

    Hibernating he might be.

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  96. Yoda says:

    Winter up here it is.
    Bears hibernate they must.

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  97. Yoda says:

    That’s me that is.

    One eye you do have?

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  98. molly says:

    What-progressives-dont-want-to-talk-about :
    Deboer says: “The notion that rape victims should be believed by default seems humane and understandable.”

    Deboer thinks accusers are the real victims of the low standard of proof! He deceives himself with forked words.

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  99. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Molly,
    I’m fine. Yoda ahs put up a lot of links and, I confess, I have not read them all fully.
    However, you should welcome this.

    They liked it!!!

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  100. Yoda says:

    Deboer thinks accusers are the real victims of the low standard of proof! He deceives himself with forked words.

    Of old headline i am reminded,
    “Jedi killed in battle. Wife hit hardest”

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  101. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda, yep, I have one eye…and another eye.

    Tarka Dal, my avatar, is a Vindaloovian, he has one eye. That he borrowed from Kryten.

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  102. Spawny Get says:

    BTW
    I saw the squirrel again this afternoon. He sends his regards.

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  103. Spawny Get says:

    GREAT NEWS, EVERYONE

    Cill is on his way home…

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  104. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny,
    I like your squirrel. I hope that he has lots of nuts stocked up for winter.

    Yoda,
    One of these days, Hillary Clinton is going to run into a bunch of Confederaye widows and she will wish that she had never said that.

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  105. molly says:

    Spawny the schoolteacher was better! The mesh around the bird box obviously keeps the squirrel in instead of out! lol

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  106. molly says:

    OMG I see his boat

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  107. Spawny Get says:

    He said he was nearly home, guess he wasn’t kidding.

    Beer in the fridge Molly

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  108. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda had a link to a post written by Freddie DeBoer fro The Week. I got about halfway through. Found a response written by COTWA that I read with relish.

    http://www.cotwa.info/2014/12/when-this-writer-lumps-rape-denialists.html

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  109. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, we don’t have squirrels in the rugged Coromandel. The closest equivalent critter would be the possum I suppose. Mrs Moehau Man (my knowledgeable old mum) has just remarked that possums don’t store nuts like squirrels. We don’t really store nuts in NZ. They do in Aussie, where they produce them as well, so I’m told. Trouble is, they also produce flies over there – more flies than a zip factory, they reckon. And, well, I guess that brings us back to the subject of nuts…

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  110. Cill says:

    Spawny! What happened to the penguin! Where’s the tin hat? What’s going on!

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  111. Spawny Get says:

    Molly required a sterner hand than a penguin could deliver. You saw how she was just now…

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  112. Cill says:

    Looks like a couple of moth-eaten squashed squirrels to me. Blimmin ‘eck did you pick them off the road and pose them for a snapshot? Followed by Molly eaten by a pastie, the Blob…
    Am I missing something here?

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  113. Spawny Get says:

    “Am I missing something”
    There has been speculation to that effect…can’t lie to you.

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  114. Cill says:

    Who else we got:
    Fuzzy
    Yoda
    Liz
    Cautiously Pessimistic
    Bloom
    molly (a shiela by the sound of it. Ah of course! She’s the one about to refill my handle of beer.)
    Swithuns posing as the headmaster…

    Man it’s good to be home. Now that Spawny has diverted me from the topic, I better read it let guys carry on with it… Spawny permitting, of course…

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  115. Spawny Get says:

    I’m off to have a shower, please amuse yourself.

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  116. Cill says:

    I see, the squirrels were on topic after all. Cruelty to Animals. I have to say, Farm Boy’s was the lesser of the cruelties. The squirrels were particularly unfortunate.

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  117. Cill says:

    “I’m off to have a shower” All you need to do is flash and turn on the water, matie!
    (That’s what headmasters do, isn’t it?)

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  118. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    It is interesting that it’s ABC News that is taking apart this Rolling Stone story. Wasn’t it 20/20 that tried to crush Paul Elam in an interview?
    They’re goofy!

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  119. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cil,
    Welcome back! Does this mean that we’ll have you instead of Molly? I had just found a seroies of videos of elephants that like piano music to entertain her with.

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  120. Cill says:

    This is the problem with being away in the back of beyond for 3-4 weeks.
    Yoda link: This is a false rape accusation? or sloppy reporting or both?

    I should catch up for myself and not bug you guys. Not today though.

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  121. Spawny Get says:

    Can’t tell you, code of silence thing. ’nuff sed

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  122. Spawny Get says:

    Big news at Breitbart-London. Milo covered MGTOW in two stories. Pushing 30000 comments between them

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  123. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    Phony story, bad reporting, bad editing (fact checking), and feminist defense of the principle of rape culture.
    I don’t know if it will blow over or not but, if the fembots dig in their heels, they may lose this one.

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  124. Spawny Get says:

    Google Breibart Sexodus when you have some time to spare…stuff on this Prawny Git blog too. Enjoy.

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  125. Cill says:

    Molly’s here, Fuzzie me old cobber! She’s too busy looking after me right now mate. Ah, a coffee would go down well, Molly… What were we saying Fuzzy? Elephants. Great idea.

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  126. Spawny Get says:

    50 she is…30 might have been a different matter…

    No photos…

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  127. Cill says:

    Hahahahaha!

    Just when I’m trying to find my feet, and gearing myself up to wade through a intimidating volume of new material, Yoda hits me with this one :

    “French-housewife-guilty-sexually-abusing-two-PLUMBERS”

    You got to admit, if you put yourself in my shoes, that’s funny.
    Bwahahaha!
    lol

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  128. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I would’ve been temped to give her a quick poke then get on the job. Mrs Moehau Man (my frugal old mum) suggests that I should then send the woman the bill.

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  129. Moehau Man says:

    When she’s had a bit of the old rogering from a hunk like me she won’t be good for any other bloke. I’d be doing mankind a favor.

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  130. molly says:

    I love the elephant Fuzzie! 🙂

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  131. Spawny Get says:

    Cill needs to get a grip, he’s gonna need space, frankly. So I made a new thread. Gentlemen, shall we away to the new thread?

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  132. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Lucky for the plumbers that there were two of them. They could cooberate each other’s story. If this woman got out of control and called the cops, these guys would have very little to defend themselves with.

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  133. Spawny Get says:

    Strap a plank across yer arse, Moe. Make sure you don’t fall in.

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  134. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, they each prolly had builder’s crack and an adjustable spanner (monkey wrench) to drive her off with.

    Did I mention the new thread?

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