A great point, a great question. Got any opinions?


From comments

Spawny Get,
A while back, you wanted to know where I stood with respect to MGTOW. In all honesty, the only thing that keeps the sexual marketplace limping along is demand from men. If a way could be found to reduce demand from men, relationships between men and women would start to improve due to the equal footing.
The thirst is real and women are dependent on it.
Now, how do we stop men from being thirsty?

My reply (for now)

That’s a great question following a great point.

It depends on where you are in life, your beliefs, your personality.

Tarn might have addressed some of the issues on her blog. You can trust her. Though she seems to be preoccupied right now (with part three of her survey results?)

I haven’t got anything to say right now, but how about I open a new post with your comment body? Start a discussion that way?

Ted said some great things about his kids over on that post. Did you read them? Guy has heart. You don’t have to comment there, but he says some great stuff regarding the youngsters from a parent of my age.

The stuff that, I guess, you are debating is a legitimate topic to discuss. There are many choices that can be made, but no single path forward. IMHO.

Anyone else want to share their views? Make some points?

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359 comments on “A great point, a great question. Got any opinions?
  1. Well I am not a guy but I guess I will go first. I thought the discussion on the other blog was interesting. Mtgtow seems to mean different things to different people, from not having romantic relationships with women at all, all the way to having romantic partners but not committing to a relationship. Personally I don’t think enough guys will drop out to make a difference, kind of the flip side of the female version — not enough women will forgo the carousel to make a difference. But I can understand why a guy would make this choice on an individual level even if it doesn’t change anything globally. If it is defined as no female partner, I think for some guys (those who dont really want a woman in their life) it probably works well, for others (those who do) it might be a difficult path.

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  2. Spawny Get says:

    Actually there have been experiments done on women’s actions and how they change when they go from a scenario where every woman thinks she’ll get a man, to one where there are not enough men. There’s a hell of a change.
    With modern media women think that there are huge numbers of men begging for her to choose them. Male friends liking her every ‘thought’ and photo.

    I’ll see what I can dig up tomorrow.

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  3. Spawny Get says:

    And thanks for kicking things off. Appreciated.

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  4. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    That was quick. From a suggestion for a post to here with comments already in so short a time?
    Spawny Get, I’ll look forward to tomorrow and your info. To toss something else into the mox. I did see a vid that laid it all at the door of online dating. One of the guys said that he attended a convention in Las Vegas that had all the principals in online dating and all they could talk about was increasing revenue. Not a word about selling a better product.
    Bear says , “”Grrrr”.

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  5. If enough guys go mtgtow to make a difference, that’s good too. Not saying it won’t work, just like if enough women would forgo the carousel that would be better. Women don’t seem to get how they are hurting themselves. I guess I see a parallel w mtgtow…

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  6. Good point, do they really want people to find someone and not need their service anymore? Hummm…

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  7. Farm Boy says:

    I did see a vid that laid it all at the door of online dating

    Can you post a link?

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  8. Tarnished says:

    One of the biggest things I like about MGTOW (besides the fact that *everyone* should feel like their life is their own) is this notion of equality it brings to male-female relations.

    Sex/SMV is what a majority of women bring to the table when discussing their relationships. Not improved finances and bill sharing, since recent surveys of women with both full and part time jobs show that the overwhelming majority would prefer not to work. Not emotional support, because most women view their man as a stoic rock aka The Stable One. Not cleaning/cooking, because even SAHMs have been known to complain about their husbands not “helping around the house”. Honey-Do lists, anyone? Not even a partner to share interests with, because so few women are into “guy stuff” that the Man Cave of a home has gone from being a joke to a near necessity.

    True, there are a few like myself who bring finances and the promise of good conversations, shared hobbies, meals, and mutual freedom but as Spawny likes to say, we are “unicorns”.

    So, back to topic: Women generally bring the promise of being physically attractive, being sexually available, and (if both want) motherhood. Unfortunately, men need sex a lot more than 99% of women do…a male-oriented brain has approximately double the amount of space devoted to sex and stimulation than a female-oriented one. Women, on various levels, know and understand this fact. They also know (whether they choose to use it or not) that denying or giving sex can manipulate a male partner into doing nearly anything.

    Enter MGTOWs. The men who have looked at this situation, shrugged, and flipped it the bird before walking in the other direction. It’s not that they are gay…or hurt beyond all redemption…or misogynistic…or losers. It’s that they have grown enough of a spine to say “fuck it” to a blatantly corrupted system. Gone are the days (for them, at least) when pussy was placed on a pedestal just for showing up.

    I will readily admit to loving this. I get along with MGTOWs for the same reason feminists *should*: They treat women like people before all else.
    You have breasts? That’s nice.
    You have a vagina? Okay.
    You are physically attractive? Good for you.

    Now what about your real value? Do you have opinions that you can back up with solid facts and reasoning? Can you be empathetic? Can you keep your finances in check? Do you have a brain between your ears? Can you hold a conversation about art, history, current events, technology, etc? Do you have hobbies and individual interests? Are you loyal to your friends and family? How do you feel about the way men are treated in the courts and portrayed in the media?

    MGTOWs: The men who actually care about women and what’s in their minds.

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  9. Yes I can see that, one season I watched “the bachelor” (I know, I don’t know why either!) and the gals demonstrated that effect clearly. I was convinced one of the top two gals didnt want HIM as much as she just wanted to win. And he did pick her! But surprise, it didnt work out. He would have been much better off w the other gal, I thought.

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  10. Spawny Get says:

    From memory,
    20 women to 20 men = female set high price
    Even knowing that it’s
    20 women to 19 men? There will be losers!!! = female price drops markedly.

    Remember IRL there’d be polygamy & harems…So the real world specifics might vary on that theme.

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  11. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Redpillgirlnotes,
    It may not be a direct corelation. However, the carousel does leaad to inconstancy, which id the hazard in marriage. With half of all mariages ending in divorce and two thirds of those at the woman’s option, it’s not without good reason that men are scared.

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    Some don’t. They earned that right. But mostly mgtow is about thinking with your big head. For women gtow too.

    You unicorn, you. We need more like you.

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  13. Spawny Get says:

    RPG,
    You might a post out of how those sites (who need both sexes) market themselves differently to each sex.

    There have been scandals over sites making fake profiles of men and women up. Specialty sites cross posting real details with fake contact info. Etc etc.

    Plenty of fake men meaning women don’t feel pressure to settle. Fake women hiding any sausage fest realities.

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  14. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    Here it is. Dream Connections is business operated by a couple. He’s American and sh’s from Hickolaev, Ukraine. They match people up. She screens the women over there and he does as much for the men here. Then, they have an event over there and hope that something comes out of it. Their claim is that eighty percent of the men who travel there start something. It may not end in marriage but, it’s a relationship.

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    Great post Fuzzie.

    Let me know if you want to do another.

    It doesn’t always take much to trigger the discussion. It’s the discussion that I like. The exchange of views and ideas.

    Nice one.

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  16. Good points. I by all means support men choosing mtgtow, hope I didn’t come across as anti-mtgtow. Everyone is different and will cope w the smp/mmp challenges differently. There is no “one way” just like everyone in the manosphere doesn’t always agree. I find the debate and figuring it out, the differing points of view, what’s interesting.

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    Cool. I’ll see if I can find the experiment tomorrow. Good to see multiple examples of the phenomenon.

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  18. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    To add to that, what I think is being done is that both sides, male and female, are screened for motivation to enter a relationship.
    My contention with the SMP/MMP here is that, while men are motivated, women are not. Allow me to cite RPG’s comment upstream about “The Bachelor”.

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  19. Spawny Get says:

    No. You didn’t. We’re fine…

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  20. Tarnished says:

    True, some MGTOWs may just not care about women at all, in the same way some WGTOWs may just not care about men. However, it’s important for people to realize that MGTOWs/WGTOWs aren’t misogynists/misandrists…Indifference is not the same as hatred.

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  21. Tarnished says:

    I know you know this, Spawny. The previous comment was mostly for lurkers.

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  22. Yoda says:

    But mostly mgtow is about thinking with your big head.

    Big Head I use.
    Guess which one is it?
    Hehehehe

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  23. Fuzzie, Fir what it’s worth, think the show is rigged, too.

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  24. theasdgamer says:

    Maybe start a movement: “We demand unicorns.”

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  25. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Redpillgirl,
    It’s so fundamental that it has to be repeated. It’s easy for women to find men who are motivated. They’re wearing their hearts on their sleeves. In the case of the aforementioned business, they are finding motivated woemen. Why do they have to be on the other side of the world? Granted, the wife does have an advantage veing native to that city.

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  26. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    I may have to beat Redpillgirlnotes to this one. What is Italian for suppository?
    Innuendo!

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  27. Padawan says:

    “I’ll see if I can find the experiment tomorrow”. Looking forward to that, Spawny.

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  28. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Theasdgamer,
    I know what will hppen. They’ll need a time out to go home and make papier-mache horns for their foreheads. It never works.
    I offered to do as much for a frustrated girl moose and she thanked for for the thought.

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  29. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah well, all this is pretty much academic for the Moehau Mans of the rugged Coromandel Peninsular.

    We keep the male : female ratio under strict control.

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  30. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Moehau Man,
    I do hope your solution involves a wizard waving a magic wand.

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  31. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Redpillgirlnotes,
    It’s like they don’t care. You would think that they would and the world would beat a path to hteir door.
    It seems that as long as they all make an ineffective product, why improve?

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  32. Moehau Man says:

    In a way, young Fuzzy, in a way.

    The male Moehau Man determines the sex of the offspring by the angle of his eyebrows at the moment of the paradise stroke. For a male, the left eyebrow must be cocked. For a female, the right eyebrow must be cocked. A monobrowed expression is to be avoided at all cost.

    FYI I’ve almost finished the draft of my blog. After Spawny has had a look at it tomorrow, I’ll publish it. 😉

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    That’s a clear transgression of the secret global patriarchy’s rule on not telling-the-women-about-stuff-like-that, this is patriarchy 101. I’ve sent a secret message secretly across the secret patriarchy secret network to your secret local uber-patriarch secretly, you’re in hot water now young furry patriarch…and not the sort that gets bubble bath added.

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  34. Moehau Man says:

    Well, I’m not sure sure about that. I had a pretty hard think before making the disclosure. Looking at humanity with a thousand yard stare, as is my want, I couldn’t see that the disclosure of the secret to the Moehau Man’s Perfect M/F Ratio would make one whit of difference to you foreigner blokes and sheilas.

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  35. Moehau Man says:

    From such a face and form as mine the noblest sentiments sound like the black utterances of a depraved imagination. I resign.

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  36. BuenaVista says:

    TarnishedSophia’s description of MGTOW diffidence, and why it is attractive to her, applies to many women, in my experience.

    I would extend the thought: it’s actually a great way to get a woman interested, if she’s accustomed to men immediately sexualizing their overtures, or ramping up the greater beta/white knight pabulum, or posturing in some other PUA or patronizing fashion. The last woman who hit on me was just someone I was shooting the breeze with about the newspaper business (she’s a reporter, I was in the business as a kid). In general, diffidence seems to make the heart grow fonder, and the IOIs become much more obvious, if a woman is keen but is asking herself “Why isn’t this man treating me like my sexual parts are absolutely the most interesting thing in the world?” It may or may not be material to the example, here, that the woman is less than half my age, and celebrates her perfect rack with revealing tops. I mention it only because such a woman should not be thrown off stride because some old guy with a limp and facial scars doesn’t sexualize a conversation or stare at her boobies. (It’s amusing to me that women with great breasts have never considered the possibility that all men are not boob men, but that would be off-topic! etc. albeit fun to explore.) But she was. Badly.

    ***

    Back to definitions of MGTOW, to me it just means having some clear boundaries, expectations, and rules — whether one is in no relationship, one relationship, or five relationships. Dysfunctional relationships are those where one person’s whims control another, and obviously these days those would be the woman’s whims, given the role of the state and culture in enforcing male subservience, if not supplication.

    Supplication is not too strong a word. If you divorce, they may call it “litigation” but you will be *begging* to get *minutes per week* with your own child. And they may call it “Child Protective Services”, but if the ex- tells a tale, you will be *begging* some tired feminist with a masters degree in cubicle farming not to extinguish your relationship with your child. This supplication is by design, and it is enforced at gunpoint by the state, and it is directed at men.

    I think I’m pretty MGTOW, if my definition obtains. (If It doesn’t I’m just a clear-eyed nonconformist.) While I will never stop desiring, I suspect, what I had when I was married and the marriage was good, I have seen my boundaries and integrity breached sufficiently for one life. ( As Ton notes, in a different context, he has PTSD but it’s from marriage not combat.) Ironically, MGTOW diffidence (i.e., pretending I wouldn’t prefer a healthy monogamy) proves extremely attractive to women.

    Of course, there’s actually nothing new culturally about MGTOW diffidence: look at the romantic loner archetypes in our literature and cinema. It is a measure of our current, feminized culture that there is something unusual, socially, about a man who doesn’t worship vaginas, and introduce his “feelings” in the first five minutes of talking to an attractive woman.

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  37. BuenaVista says:

    Markets are priced on the margin, and my stock example is the chaos that ensued in 1987 forcing the suspension of NYSE trading — owing to a 7% shift in buy capacity. So accordingly, I’ve always thought that a few guys checking out of the marriage market would deliver chaos to the remaining women.

    I don’t really think so any longer (or, this week). Sure there are lonely voices of regret (Katie Bolick, Jenny Bahn): women regretting that their assumptions about being able to raise their hand and find themselves betrothed at 35 to someone they admire. But really, the State and the culture just create laws and support for whatever female behaviors that the feminine imperative advances. These laws, the social infrastructure, the pop cultural foundations that are the lingua franca for our girls gone wild world — they are expanding faster than the men are dropping out.

    Accordingly, I think MGTOW is really a kind of secret society. The men who practice MGTOW may be married, they may be celibate loners, they may have five girlfriends who float easily in and out of focus — but I don’t see MGTOW having much of a social impact because the State and the culture are owned by the opposition. Further, I find that even with highly sympathetic women (e.g., a woman romantically involved with me) discussing these matters strikes her as destabilizing, scary, weird, maybe insane.

    One such woman and I were discussing Gone Girl, which I think is a major cultural marker. We saw it separately. I mentioned the amusing dark triad character played by Rosamund Pike, the Plan B guy she murders, how Affleck blew up his alpha fucks persona and submitted to beta servitude, all the usual stuff people like us would notice.

    My friend looked at me like I had lost my mind. I wouldn’t describe her as an intellectual, but she is educated and I am a conversationalist, so we do talk about most everything.

    “Well, I really liked it but that ending … and I didn’t like how they portrayed the woman, that’s misogynist!”

    I shrugged. “Men are often given the role of predatory seducer, aren’t they? Fincher just flipped the script, and made her sociopathy more female in its manifestations.”

    “I didn’t like that and the way she killed that guy and then what they said about marriage at the end?”

    Anyhow, she loved the movie, it just doesn’t conform to any of her received ideas about men, women, the SMP and the MMP. Consequently, her incoherence in attempting to describe it and what it meant.

    So, essentially, we may need to keep our thoughts to ourselves on such matters because anyone steeped in the culture will have a meltdown if the culture’s pretensions are exposed. We’re a secret society and the women who can’t lock down a man because of MGTOW will just marry the government and find emotional solace and hypergamous expression in serial monogamy, culturally endorsed random sex and FB friends.

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  38. BuenaVista says:

    When I was divorced 15 years ago, I was something of a mess as well as a dating doofus, so I experimented with a couple of marriage bureaus, which is what this appears to be. (Russian models FTW YAY!) I wouldn’t link a marriage market maker selling green card marriages with services like OKC and Match.com. They’re radically different forums with different objectives and behaviors.

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    Hi BuenaVista, nice to see you. I hope things are improving.

    I’d be very careful when reading Tarn’s comments. She’s in no way ‘typical’ of women (by all means visit her blog). In all my conversations with her I have found her very analytical, rather a male mindset in my amateur opinion. I don’t know what gender dysphoria actually is, but her self description as a male mind in a female body is functionally useful – if you regard her as that you find her comments easier to interpret as they are intended. i.e. don’t go second guessing her comments by treating the person making them as a woman, read them as straight, logical male comments (my opinion – FWIW).

    TLDR ; Tarn’s talking about what she finds attractive about the MGTOW mindset, not what she finds attractive about MGTOWs.

    Putting her unicorniness aside, however, I agree with what you say. I believe that the gamers would call it ‘demonstrating higher value’ DHV. Women have grown up expecting their magic vajayjay / boobles etc to cause men to fall in line, do as she wishes. Men disinclined to value her vajayjay (MGTOWs in some way, shape or form, or abundance mentality alphas (or pseudo alpha PUAs)) throw a monkey wrench (adjustable spanner) in her smoothly running hamster wheel. Causing her to re-evaluate her worth compared to that man.

    He doesn’t fall in line => he’s higher value than me => *tingles*

    ***

    “I think I’m pretty MGTOW, if my definition obtains. (If It doesn’t I’m just a clear-eyed nonconformist.)”

    How you describe ‘pretty MGTOW’ works for me FWIW. However, I’ve never been very interested in conforming either. So maybe I don’t help with definitions of the average MGTOW much either at the end of the day.

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  40. BuenaVista says:

    I see no reason to “be careful” with Tarn’s comments. What’s that about? Here and elsewhere they seem to speak quite clearly and for themselves: they’re limpid and well-formed.

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    They are. Some people then make the mistake of filtering their meaning through a ‘said by a woman’ filter…that’s not necessary with Tarn. Sorry if I mis-read you. I’m reading comments while waiting for compilations and test runs.

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  42. Spawny Get says:

    BuenaVista (and analytically inclined others)
    the other problem with my attention span for comments is that I’m also background watching a series of four BBC documentary programmes called ‘The Century Of The Self’ (from 2002)
    ( all four can be found here http://vimeo.com/search/page:2/sort:relevant/format:thumbnail?type=videos&q=Century+Of+The+Self )

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self

    Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis, changed the perception of the human mind and its workings. The series describes the propaganda that Western governments and corporations have utilized stemming from Freud’s theories.

    Freud himself and his nephew Edward Bernays, who was the first to use psychological techniques in public relations, are discussed. Freud’s daughter Anna Freud, a pioneer of child psychology, is mentioned in the second part, as is one of the main opponents of Freud’s theories, Wilhelm Reich, in the third part.

    Along these general themes, The Century of the Self asks deeper questions about the roots and methods of modern consumerism, representative democracy, commodification and its implications. It also questions the modern way we see ourselves, the attitudes to fashion and superficiality.

    The business and political world uses psychological techniques to read, create and fulfill the desires of the public, to make their products or speeches as pleasing as possible to consumers and citizens. Curtis raises the question of the intentions and roots of this fact. Where once the political process was about engaging people’s rational, conscious minds, as well as facilitating their needs as a society, the documentary shows how by employing the tactics of psychoanalysis, politicians appeal to irrational, primitive impulses that have little apparent bearing on issues outside of the narrow self-interest of a consumer population.

    The words of Paul Mazur, a leading Wall Street banker working for Lehman Brothers, are cited: “We must shift America from a needs- to a desires-culture. People must be trained to desire, to want new things, even before the old have been entirely consumed. […] Man’s desires must overshadow his needs”.[2][3][4][5][6][7]

    In Episode 4 the main subjects are Philip Gould and Matthew Freud, the great-grandson of Sigmund, a PR consultant. They were part of the efforts during the nineties to bring the Democrats in the US and New Labour in the United Kingdom back into power. Adam Curtis explores the psychological methods they have now massively introduced into politics. He also argues that the eventual outcome strongly resembles Edward Bernays’ vision for the “Democracity” during the 1939 New York World’s Fair.

    It is widely believed that the series was inspired and informed by a book written by the American historian, Stuart Ewen, “PR! A Social History of Spin”.

    I’m currently just beyond the halfway mark (2.5 out of 4). They are full of interesting insight into feminists, women, consumer society, hippies, boomers, government attempts to control the population (directing democracy). I haven’t (yet) heard much description of how some techniques that work on women more than on men (hypergamy and consumerism) but if you’re switched on to the issues, the points are there to be expanded upon, I believe.

    If you have any down time, do you fancy writing a post, or series of posts on them? Or anybody else? I’m currently busy, but this is great post material…

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  43. Tarnished says:

    BV,

    I don’t believe Spawny meant “treat Tarn with kid gloves”, he was just giving a gentle reminder that I tend to comment from a male/pseudo-male point of view.

    He’s correct that it’s not that I find MGTOWs sexually attractive because of their ability to not be swayed by pussy. It’s that I am relieved to find men who would be capable of having honest discussions with women…aren’t afraid to disagree or feel they must walk on eggshells…actually treat women like people instead of goddesses. I live in a very feminist area, and it is incredibly frustrating to be pedestalized all the time.

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    Thanks Tarn,
    that’s a relief. That’s exactly what I meant. I have a few things going on at once…bit distracted.

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  45. BuenaVista says:

    Tarnished, I don’t read for gender or attempt to label something male or female (or ‘brotha’ or caucasion or country or ‘hood, as another blog likes to do). That seems like a slippery slope to imbecility, or at least politically-shaded bad thought. Anyway, I just thought your comment was interesting, and understood it in the context of your comments elsewhere about preferring an intersexual egalitarianism. It’s also an amusing rhetorical rebuttal to people who assert the morality of feminism, which long ago abandoned pretense of equity in relations.

    As a hardass Jacksonian, frontier populist, I am not an egalitarian — socially, theologically, or in any political economy sense. But I value your perspective here because it renders impossible the double standards that today control any male-female conflict.

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  46. Spawny Get says:

    Given your outlook you will very much like the Thatcher speech I just got to at 8:54 minutes into episode four of the series.

    “Some socialists seem to believe that people should be numbers in a state computer. We believe they should be individuals. We’re all unequal. No one, thank heavens, is quite like any one else however how much the socialists may pretend otherwise. And we believe that everyone has the right to be unequal, but to us, every human being is equally important…{more great stuff}”

    It has recently been reported that Maggie was never really part of the Tory party, she was never quite at home there.

    The series that I mentioned above is very good indeed.

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  47. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Buena Vista,
    They do seem to have a different way of going about things.
    Essentially, it would all be about putting motivated individuals together and, for the moment, it seems to be working for them. Well, so did internet dating, until that was messed up.
    Your observation of government becomeing a default provider of all things to women is bleak. I hope there are limits but,it does look like they aren’t any.
    MGTOWs should operate in secret. How they came o be that way takes a lot of explaining.

    PS. Glad to see you over here.

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  48. BuenaVista says:

    Shopkeeper’s daughter: socially invisible to the old guard. Then she crushed them, haha. She was a bit imperial for my tastes, though, this is the ongoing dilemma for any libertarian: how many foreign entanglements are necessary, and how many are just adventures in shock and awe?

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    “Your observation of government becomeing a default provider of all things to women is bleak. I hope there are limits but,it does look like they aren’t any.”

    The limit is what can be afforded. Even if you just print the money to do it. Look at our countries’ deficits…there are limits to how much you can rape from men in general to feed the benificent Daddy Sugar to women machine.

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    I’m not an uncritical fan, but it’s very interesting to see a speech from her from when I was too young to pay attention (1975, I wasn’t ten at the time). According to the series she was a rebel against the patrician elites. She preached freedom and individuality for the plebs, not more of the nanny state. We need that back. There are all kinds of echoes from earlier days in today’s world. Watch the damn series! It’s very good indeed. They don’t make stuff like this any more.

    The leading documentary programme ‘Panorama’ on the beeb this week was a slur against Farage. Just a vicious attack.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/14/BBC-Panorama-On-Farage-Was-Uniquely-Embarrassing

    BBC Airs 30 Minute ‘Documentary’ Moaning That Farage Won’t Roll Over and Die
    Last night the BBC’s Panorama documentary programme aired a 30-minute ‘investigation’ into the UK Independence Party and its leader Nigel Farage. The results, however, were nothing like a balanced documentary into the rise of the eurosceptic party. Instead, the programme focused on 10-year-old allegations and former, disgruntled party members.

    The same sort of programme has never been made of any of the other political parties – and I dare say that if you asked former Labour, Tory, or Liberal Democrat members to spill the beans on some of their old colleagues, you’d get a lot worse than the “Nigel Farage once set up a call centre and used the proceeds to fund his election campaign” news that the BBC thought was worthy of thousands of pounds of licence-fee payers’ money, and a significant chunk of primetime television.

    The allegation above was in reference to a South East call centre in England, which was set up with the express intention of helping UKIP candidates, including Nigel Farage, across the United Kingdom. But since the South East has been UKIP’s strongest area – it is entirely natural that most resources would be focused there. The BBC implied that this was some sort of Farage stitch-up. I’m not so sure that Mr Farage controls where UKIP is popular in the minds of the voting public.

    The second half of the documentary was entirely focused on the fact that Mr Farage and other UKIPers were not interested in appearing in the programme. The producers spent a good third, if not a half of their programme bemoaning this on the nation’s public broadcaster. In summary, they may as well have said, “Waah, waah! Don’t you know who we are?! We’re the BBC! No one says no to the BBC!”

    But that’s exactly what Mr Farage and his colleagues did. For obvious reasons, and reasons they set out as early as August of this year. Funnily enough the BBC thought it would wait until after the Clacton by-election result, and just before the Rochester and Strood by-election, to air this piece of programming. If that’s not political propaganda, funded by the licence fee payer, I don’t know what is.

    fuck al-ja-beeb-a

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  51. BuenaVista says:

    Online dating seems very useful and effective to me. I’m not online now because I met too many women. One reason I did is that I didn’t waste time on women ‘out of my league’; I do that in person, to much better effect, because the checklists don’t function in person.

    I will admit that the OKC data showing 80% of men to be “below average” in looks is a big problem for all of us, but it’s a big problem in regard to efficiency more than anything else.

    I’ve met women from SPB to Moskva to DC, MSP and NYC online. I think it’s a great innovation.

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  52. BuenaVista says:

    Spawny, when the Chinese stop buying our paper, we won’t be worrying about the sexual marketplace. We’ll be worried about how much ammo, canned goods and fresh water we can muster. The welfare state will collapse faster than hanged men, to quote my favorite drunk, Dudley Moore, without mentioning he was referring to pendulous breasts.

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    I’m with you, and who doesn’t adore lovely jubblies?

    I tried ‘marmite starfish’ out as slang the other day. Nobody bit, making me wonder whether my slang is too opaque or too pedestrian. So now I’m taking lovely jubblies out for a spin.

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  54. BuenaVista says:

    I’ve no idea what jubblies (they’re boobs?) (anyway, leg man here) or marmite starfish mean. Over my provincial head.

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    Just a thought 😉 Sandman is on a downer, but mentions the Walking Dead (which we’ve already talked about)

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  56. Farm Boy says:

    Spawny,

    I would prefer it if you had the comments in a “linear fashion”. The intermingled style is especially difficult to navigate on mobile devices.

    [SG – sigh, you may be right. maybe time for an experiment? not sure what happens when I make the change, so I’ll do a backup then try changing the setting. hold on to your seats — Any feedback folks? I’d like comment numbers, but not sure how to do it on a wordpress hosted site (any experts out there?)]

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  57. Tarnished says:

    I prefer women with “huge tracts of land” and large hips, myself. Ones who look like me, in other words. Lol

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  58. Spawny Get says:

    Yep lovely jubblies are bounteous bouncing baps.

    Cats have marmite starfish. Most visible when they stick their tails up in the air.

    marmite is a very strong tasting black gloop that should be banned as a chemical weapon, but some people smear it on their toast.
    starfish is what ‘they’ look like.
    I guess that ‘marmite starfish’ comes from the look on cats’ faces after they clean themselves, and all the lip licking that goes on…just a theory

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  59. BuenaVista says:

    “Starfish” over here refers to remarkably inept and passive female lovers. I have never heard of “baps”. (Neither has my computer.) Do you live in the Orkneys, or something? These are word from the fo’c’s’le of a Patrick O’Brian novel.

    ***

    Yeah, the comments are impossible to navigate. It’s too much work. I’d do what Farm Boy said.

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    Happy to share the joy of local linguistic variations.

    Baps are soft squidgy bread rolls, around hand sized. Not just bread rolls, however, Shirley I don’t need to be more explicit than that?

    Next time you look at a cat’s aerosol…compare and contrast it’s radial structure to a starfish…judging by the cat’s expression when licking it clean, well that’s where the marmite comes in. Tarn loves the stuff (marmite I mean) as far as I remember she said it tasted of vitamins for geese. I shall be taking her word for it.

    [Comment #666]

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  61. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve done the comment layout change (it was getting annoying to me as well, so I didn’t need much of a nudge)

    What do we reckon?

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  62. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I think the change is one for the better. The drawback being that referencing older comments must be done by date and time. Easy enough to deal with.

    I don’t lnow about Sandman’s conclusions in an Ebola Fempocalypse. I don’t see how it would empower women by making men scarce.In a situation like that, I would hope that women might see the value in men for any number of reasons.
    We’re not supposed to be optional equipment, ladies.

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  63. Spawny Get says:

    I was a bit nervous when everybody stopped commenting just after I made the change…I do want the numbers. The problem is that if you let WordPress host the site (for free) they restrict plugins etc. I’m looking to see if there are any themes with numbers by default.

    Also the comment links from the latest comments list don’t seem to work to take you to the comment. (for me anyway)

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  64. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I have to confirm that the link for comments doesn’t work. To get here, I clicked on comments ran it to the end and clicke on newer comments.

    [thanks for the confirmation, that’s the behaviour I’m getting too]
    [by increasing the maximum number of comments per page, we seem to be able to side step the issue that links have to change when comment threads are paginated and need a second page]

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  65. Yoda says:

    Spawny great man he is.

    [cheers]

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    Hey guys – new post by Moehau Man is up

    Moe ‘n’ me reckon it may be extended to cover MPD issues with browsers

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  67. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Just thought to post this to test the waters.

    [the short cuts will work up til 500 comments. pretty safe, I think. the whole site only has 680ish]

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  68. Spawny Get says:

    Hey Fuzzie, what did you reckon of the new post? Moe did a good job when he switched from gobble-de-gook to techinese

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  69. theasdgamer says:

    @ Spawny

    who doesn’t adore lovely jubblies

    My mother commented on my second cousin’s jubblies back when cousin was 18–that my cousin’s were very conical and her load unsecured. Mom admired them greatly, as, I’m sure, did all the men and women who saw them. A solid B-cup. Slim, with boyish hips, and a lovely face.

    Still attractive but I still don’t want to kiss her on the lips. She “feels” like a 1st cousin. When cousin comes to bid me adieu, my stomach gets queasy. I pucker up and think of England.

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  70. Spawny Get says:

    I remember being surprised when I found out that Murikan women lie back and think of England. It’s very nice of them, I suppose.

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  71. theasdgamer says:

    Since you brought it up, Tarn, I like curvy gals (your type, Tarn), petite gals, tall gals, gals with boyish hips if they have boobs and aren’t trannies (heh).

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  72. Moehau Man says:

    BuenaVista said (15 October, 2014 at 1:14 pm):

    “It’s amusing to me that women with great breasts have never considered the possibility that all men are not boob men”

    Bwoaahahahahahahahahaha!

    Yes, well, my fancy was somewhat tickled when I read that. It leaves old Moe scratching his head and wondering…

    Let’s just say it’s bloody amusing to me too, sir.

    Boobing is no respecter of class, gender, age, caste or creed. Many famous celebrities equally enjoy quite a bit of it. Kate Middleton – wife of Prince William – is into it. Nicole Kidman and Brad Pitt, both of whom have suffered from atopic boobing from infancy, do it.

    Boobing is a life experience nobody can get away from. I say this with more humility than rancour. And actually, when I think about it, more humour than humility.

    Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

    Yes, well. There we have it. Moe’s booby for the day.

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  73. Tarnished says:

    Lol, you’re like my lover…he doesn’t have a “type” either. His only requirements are;
    1. Over 18
    2. Female bodied
    3. Weigh less than him (255 lbs)
    4. Be an active sex partner

    Other than that, he’s pretty easy…although he does like white women more than I do. I usually try to take this into consideration when I point out hot females to him in the mall.

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  74. Spawny Get says:

    He still has strength to look? After you? Wattaguy!

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  75. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well,
    my requirements are:
    1. Hairy
    2. Nice hunched shoulders
    3. Covered in ash
    4. Runs like a robber’s dog.

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  76. Tarnished says:

    We only have sexy funtimes twice a week, Spawny…Of course he looks. I don’t care, lol. It’s not like I own him, and he points out hot womens for me to glance over too. It’s fun to talk about having threesomes with the lovely ta-tas we saw earlier that day. 😉

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    Coupla comments spring to mind there Tarn.

    1) once for three days, the other for four?

    2) is that starts at 255, ends at 180?

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  78. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    ‘G”rated bear love.

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  79. Moehau Man says:

    Well, Fuzzy, that bear is about as sane as an Elton John wig. Sorry to have to say it mate, but it’s true.

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  80. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Moehau Man,
    The bear is sane, it’s his situation that isn’t. Poor little orphan cub dropped off at a doorstep. The “chortling” would be for bonding with his mother.

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  81. Cill says:

    Tarn “Now what about your real value?”

    The women I know best, my female relatives, would be able to answer Yes to your questions. I grew up surrounded by them. I grew up thinking that’s what women are. It was a rude shock to discover how wrong I was. When I meet up with them now, they are a good reminder of how valuable a woman can be.

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    The “chortling” would be for bonding with his mother.

    It takes a bear to understand a bear.

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  83. Moehau Man says:

    Ah, that explains it, Fuzzy. We don’t have bears in my country, but Mrs Moehau Man, my mum, looked after a baby Moa once. Similar story, the Moa mum was dead as a dodo. Struck down in her prime by a hungry a Haast Eagle. The little mower shivered like jelly on springs for at least a week afterwards.

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  84. Yoda says:

    The women I know best, my female relatives, would be able to answer Yes to your questions. I grew up surrounded by them. I grew up thinking that’s what women are. It was a rude shock to discover how wrong I was.

    A similar story as Padawan I have.
    Shocked I was.

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  85. Moehau Man says:

    To the best of me knowledge, bears don’t sing. In NEw Zealnd we are surrounded by music. My group, The Banging Boners, gets its inspiration from the Tui. Here’s an example of a Tui singing. Well he’s not so much singing as trying different ways to attract a sheila Tui:

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  86. Padawan says:

    Moehau Man 6 October, 2014 at 6:00 am ???

    What the heck have we right here?
    Cats Carousing with Chimps?
    Ball-Busting Workouts for the queer?
    Hyenas rogering Gimps?

    Or something to do with fellatio
    Pacifiers for oral bonk
    Blow it to whistle and suck it to Warble
    And bite the bastard to Honk

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  87. Spawny Get says:

    Moe and Yoda, yeah.

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  88. Spawny Get says:

    That Tui fella reminds me of a blue-piller…what the eff do I need to do to get a sheila to like me?

    Bet he still makes more sense than a Tui sheila though…just sayin’

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  89. Moehau Man says:

    Strange thing is, although the Tui fella is pretty spectacular in flight, with multi-coloured sorta hologram rainbow colours under his wings, the sheila is plain little biddy. He goes to all that effort for her. She’s hardly worth it if you ask me. I blame that damn Briffault joker, even tho he was as good as half kiwi.

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  90. Spawny Get says:

    That’s kind of my position regarding the man-up and chase the unicorn brigade and the real gamers.

    Hey, you want to do it for ‘her’? go ahead big boy, make her day (no skin off my nose).

    Want to do it for yourself (self-improve not holo-wings)? fine, don’t blame you, no problem there if you want to, I’m fine with that and it might improve your chances with the sheilas (which might be of interest – up to ‘you’).

    Don’t think that the chase is worth the catch? Not in the mood for self-improving right now (you can change your mind)? Come over to the pool, learn some stuff, get your head together, chat with friends…wander off at any point if you want.

    The only approach that I don’t like is to twist yourself up in pain and rage. Nothing is going to improve that way, not for you, not for anyone…but primarily not for you.

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  91. Moehau Man says:

    The Moehau Man clans observe the foreign jokers and sheilas with some wonder. It’s all looks pretty dodgy to us. As I mentioned earlier, the male Moehau Man keeps strict control over the male to female ratio. Our females give us none of the sorts of nonsense you blokes are supposed to put up with. If that happened to us, the whole lot of us would give MGTOW a burl, I’m sure of it. No shit.

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  92. Spawny Get says:

    That’s why the Kiwi situation regarding divorce, co-habitation etc came as a surprise to me.

    You guys (the ones I’ve met) may have playful personalities (back at you), but they were grounded sorts. Let’s say I’ve never had any trouble relating with them/you/whatever. Have fun all day and all night, but when there’s real shit to get done, it gets done. Got all the time in the world for that masculine attitude. Others around here are more serious, and that’s fine, but I don’t see that as necessarily more masculine.

    Both sorts are welcome here, as are guys just waking up who want to experience a male atmosphere. That’s why fembots and snarky bitchy types will get the boot. Not because they won’t lose the argument (they absolutely will), but having the argument here stinks up the positive environment for men and women who like a male environment, who respect the difference. This last bit is the source of #GamerGate, IMHO, this is the difference between the #NotYourShield types and the SJWs.

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  93. Moehau Man says:

    You know that link I gave you that it’s on the books to make criticism of feminism a crime in Europe, I wonder if you stuck it up in a post somewhere, would there be outrage? If you had a rage-reader (do you feel cold > warm > hot > boiling) how hot would it go?

    My old great granddad Moehau Man fought against the Nazis in WWII and now we’ve got the next wave to contend with out of Europe. People say Ohhh that law has no chance of passing, but that sorta attitude is why bad laws get passed in the end.

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  94. Spawny Get says:

    Feel free to make a post…I doubt we disagree over anything. I can’t see why we should.

    AVFM’s A Voice For Europe has been covering this (as far as I can see) but because they’re too stupid* to post up the shows immediately as MP3s you have to listen live or wait for a few weeks when some of them might be uploaded.

    The hardest thing to do in the industry is to create content, that’s the valuable stuff. So when you have the valuable stuff but fail to do the easy stuff (upload the mp3) to maximise its value…that’s dumb. And that’s not just an opinion.

    *I tried telling them nigh on a year ago. Others made the same point. They’ve done nothing. That’s why I use the word ‘stupid’, because it’s the right word to use.

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  95. Moehau Man says:

    Now I’m trying to find that confounded link. I came across it last year I think it was, and I could’ve sworn I put it in a comment here somewhere. Or maybe it was someone else put it in their comment.

    I just checked through everything, and It’s not in any of my comments. That means it’s a needle in a haystack situation.

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  96. Spawny Get says:

    Whatever email issues you have, I have worse 😉

    AVFM / AfE / Lucian Valsan are good to google. They’re hot on the topic. I just wish they’d upload the damn audio 😉 (slightly frustrated that they don’t)

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  97. Moehau Man says:

    Well after a lotta painstaking searching I found it. It was Cill, who put the link in his comment way back at:
    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2014/10/02/we-interrupt-this-broadcast-with-exciting-news-spawnyspace-the-twit-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-100

    This is the link: http://www.avoiceformen.com/updates/eu-to-ban-anti-feminist-speech

    I’m a bit mentally knackered after that effort. I should shout meself a stubbie, I reckon.

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  98. Spawny Get says:

    re stubbie – cheers. I’ll join you later.

    I’m working on something to make the search you just made painless. At some point you can expect some testbed executable Win or Lin.

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  99. Moehau Man says:

    “I’m working on something to make the search you just made painless”.

    Blow me down, mate, I wish you could’ve told me that before I launched meself on that search! 😉 (You just witnessed me first ever emoticon right there. Old Moe here nearly Pakaru’d his knuckles in typing it, but it’s done. Over. Sweet as. The Moehau Man is now a more sensitized fella than before).

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  100. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    It’s off topic but, Captain Capitalism reported last night that Anita Sarkeesesian missed a speaking engagement in Utah because of a death threat. Gee, that is beginning to sound familiar.
    Today, at Paul Elam’s youtube channel, Bob O’Hara interviews someone fron that school who say that the threat is not being taken seriously.
    I have to wonder when the FBI is going to lose patience with Anita.
    This is not funny anymore.

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  101. Spawny Get says:

    In the UK you can be charged for wasting police time.

    You have Brianna Wu (?) in hiding from ‘death threats’ too, don’t you?

    Bout time they got the police involved or admitted a scam, one or other must be true, Shirley?

    Ugly bird Dunham just remembered getting raped years ago, didn’t she?

    It feels like some grown up conversations, which are long overdue, might be imminent. Cool.

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  102. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    One can always hope but, it looks like they are going to get away with this indefinitely. I amj starting to be a little disgusted by it all.

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  103. Spawny Get says:

    If you have a nice anonymous email address, why not sign up to Twitter? #GamerGate and #NotYourShield are GREAT tags to follow. The gamers are fighting back and the signs are great! Avfm has new material today.

    @SpawnySpace is me, though I’ve yet to twat. Let me know if/when you sign up. The stuff the lame stream media isn’t covering, or is twisting out of all recognition is out there in the twitterverse.

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  104. Spawny Get says:

    Those tags work in YouTube as well. Have a search, I double dare you!

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  105. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    Before posting, I hadn’t noticed that Sumo had already opened up this topic.
    About Twitter, am I old fashioned for preffering that I not be restricted to 140 characters?
    I’m feeling sad. Wtching a documentary about Charlemagne now. That should take my mind off the present. 🙂

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  106. Spawny Get says:

    In other news, today Cameron decided that he could tackle immigration. Ukip has the political class on the run. They’re scared.

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  107. Spawny Get says:

    Sumo and you almost tied…

    If you read up on GamerGate, I promise it’ll raise your spirits.

    Twitter has links and images, it’s a reasonable way to get notified to go look somewhere specific.

    If you go to Twitter.com you can search for the tags without signing up…have a peek…No harm done.

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  108. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    You may be on to something. There has been a dearth of good news froj the usual sources.

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  109. Spawny Get says:

    GamerGate is where the SJWs and grievance brigade bit off more than they could chew. As the avfm article says, all the same methods used on men by fembots are being used on gamers. The gamers are having none of it.

    In some ways #NotYourShield is even more significant. The people the SJWs are claiming to speak for are telling the SJWs to piss off. When women do this to feminists (#WomenAgainstFeminism) in sufficient numbers…game over, man, game over.

    It’s good brother, it’s good!

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  110. Tarnished says:

    The only thing I worry about in your analogy is that it doesn’t take “The Sisterhood” into account. Yes, gamers of all ethnicities, faiths, sexes, and abilities are capable of banding together to stand up for themselves…something I don’t believe SJWs were expecting.

    But I don’t see nearly as many women standing up against feminism. Some are, but the majority just don’t care enough to take an active stance. The issue I see is that the media focuses only on the extreme voices of the MRM, and barely manages a coherent thought on MGTOW. When you have “journalists” who make anything not feminist sound like a call for women to lose their rights, it’s hardly a wonder that potential allies get turned away.

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  111. Cill says:

    There is a tide in the affairs of men, and I’m rather adept at reading tides. Each movement, each eddie has a cause and effect. The current stirrings suggest that in the future they may well emerge as the changing of the tide against the SJW.

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  112. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    More than GamerGate is the prospect of women rising in opposition to feminism. They would be correct in presuming that feminism has gone too far if men are opting out. The big concern for me is that wome will not let go of advantage inorder to see things fair.

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  113. Spawny Get says:

    Fair point. Midnight here…what you say is true, but…fembots are what? 10-20% tops of women. We could get that many working out that masculinised women fembots don’t have their interests in mind. At least that many… a vocal minority (like NYS) challenging the fembot narrative could be very effective. Especially as the MSM is busy proving how corrupt and irrelevant it is.

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  114. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, I’m not very optimistic about any kind of majority of women worrying about what is fair for men and boys. I am more optimistic that many of them will realise that feminism is contrary to their interests. Women have team women. They might split if team woman is seen to actually be anti them AND there’s a big enough other herd.

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  115. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny, it’s easy enough for all of us to know what time it is whare you are, you left the blog at the default time setting-Zulu time. 🙂
    It could be my impatience getting the best of me.
    I would to see an everyday woman tear into a feminist.

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    The blog is on Isle of Man time (a real place). Which is currently BST (British Summer Time) which is GMT+1 (Zulu + 1).

    Thunderstorms tonight, rain…yep, it’s British Summer Time 😉 (for a little while longer)

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  117. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn has called out a feminist a few times that I’ve seen. As a unicorn, however, she’s hardly everyday.

    Things ARE moving though. More good than bad, I think.

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  118. Cill says:

    From my perspective, men are turning away from women in their droves. Of the scores of men I know in this country, of the ones between about 25 and 40 I can only think of 4 who are in ltr or marriage. The rest have no real interest in women whatsoever. This is on top of an already acute shortage of “available” men of “marriageable age” in NZ.

    It’s not just a western phenomenon. The same applies with men in Japan and China, although the latter are not to be equated with MGTOW. Last time I was in Europe, I read of studies in France and Italy indicating that as many as 25% of men in those crucial age-brackets are withdrawing from women. I can’t find these “studies” on the web. I read of them in my pre-MGHOW days and didn’t take a lot of notice of them at the time.

    When the underswell shows signs of moving and keeping on moving, things will change.

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  119. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I get the feeling that Bloom and Tarn have something in common. They accept the fact that men are different from women and they like them anyway.

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  120. Spawny Get says:

    I hope to find that experiment link…You don’t need a mass of men leaving the market to change the market markedly. Social media hides the problem from women…until they actually want the commitment / personal provider pack mule / sperm donor / proto divorce victim.

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  121. Spawny Get says:

    @Fuzzie
    They be crazy like that. Liz too.

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  122. Cill says:

    I travel a lot, and I see a lot of signs in a lot of places that more and more men are learning not to think with their dicks. And when they do learn that lesson, the rose-tinted lenses, through which they had always looked at women, fall off their faces.

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  123. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny,
    If you could find that link, I would be interested in reading that. It is curious that the effect of social media is to inflate their self worth.

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  124. Spawny Get says:

    @Fuzzie
    I’ll be happy to dig when I get a chance. I failed to refind it last time I tried.

    What you’re looking at is

    hypergamy (a woman’s natural, healthy in moderation desire to get the best father for her kids).

    Plus choice addiction – all those guys vying for attention on social media, which one is best? *tingles*

    Also, she must be a specially special snowflake because so many men chase her every comment on social media.

    Plus there are so many men chasing her (until there aren’t) that she sees no need to settle, not when her Prince is out there chasing her.

    And all men are pigs and inferior anyway, and the government will fund her crappy choices, so no need to settle.

    There’s kind of a perfect storm fucking with women’s basic instincts, which they aren’t raised to rein in anymore. They, in general, are raised to be narcissistic sociopaths. Not all end up being that of course, but it’s not a healthy way to bring up people.

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  125. Spawny Get says:

    So it’s okay to have a little sympathy, but like a bear you find in a trap…they’re still dangerous. Put yourself first, society and women don’t…

    And goodnight all

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  126. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Sleep well. “Raised to be nacissistic sociopaths”? That does remind me of Tara Palmatier’s speech at the Men’s Conference.

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  127. Farm Boy says:

    The big concern for me is that women will not let go of advantage inorder to see things fair.

    An advantage in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    Also, the women with the most advantages are often also the most influencial

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  128. Farm Boy says:

    I get the feeling that Bloom and Tarn have something in common. They accept the fact that men are different from women and they like them anyway.

    It is amazing that that is considered a rarity.

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  129. Farm Boy says:

    Now, how do we stop men from being thirsty?

    The thirst is built-in. There is not so much that one can do about that. And women exploit that for all it is worth. And the legal system has been changed to allow them to do it more efficiently.

    What to do? Educate men with respect to the red pill. That is the main reason that I continue to post.

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  130. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    While it is amazing that is considered a rarity, I always had hopes that you would run across a Farm Girl that you could trade jokes with about M&Ms.

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  131. Padawan says:

    The vorpal blade went snicker-snoves!
    Padawan’s time to play,
    All mimsy were the borogoves!
    And the mome raths outglay.

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  132. Padawan says:

    Twas brillig and the nippled trolls!
    Did pucker by the Tumtum Tree
    Came yowling then the howling molls!
    In uffish curmudgeonry.

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  133. Padawan says:

    Now John at the bar is my friend for life!
    He f*cks up my wife for free
    And he’s quick with a joke or to give her a poke!
    There’s someplace that he’d rather be…

    He says, “Pad, I believe this is killing me”!
    As a smile ran away from his face
    “Well, I’m sure that I could be a marmite jar!
    If I had some f*cking cat mace”

    And the MSM sounds like a carnival!
    And Fuzzy Man smells like a bear
    And they sit at the bar and put yeast in my jar!
    And say “Man what are you doing here?”

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  134. Padawan says:

    So sing us a song you’re the cuckold man!
    Sing us a song tonight
    Well we’re all in the mood for cuckoldry!
    And you’ve got us feeling alright

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  135. Padawan says:

    It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday
    And the manager gives me a smile
    Because it’s my wife they’ve been f*cking all night
    To forget about life for a while

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  136. Padawan says:

    Now Paul is a real estate novelist
    Who never had time for a life
    And he’s talking with Davy, who’s still in the Navy
    And presently tupping my wife

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  137. Padawan says:

    Now let’s all laugh at the cuckold man
    And let’s all applaud his wife
    Were it not for she there would be no he
    To give us the time of our lives!

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  138. Spawny Get says:

    “Now let’s all laugh at the cuckold man”

    Nothing funny about being betrayed, whether it’s the husband or wife.

    Just my opinion.

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  139. Tarnished says:

    Padawan, thou hast ruined “Piano Man” for me!

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  140. Tarnished says:

    @Farm Boy

    I don’t think it’s amazing, I think it’s pathetic. Surely more females can accept manhood without trying to change it or claim fear of it?

    Bloom is a nice woman who sees a lot of male-female interactions for what they really are. I’m “confused”, and think of myself as one of the brethren (while still acknowledging that my body can never truly reflect this).

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  141. Tarnished says:

    I believe that 99% of men will always be thirsty for women’s bodies, so there is no way to make them less thirsty.

    The answer is to make more “drinks” available, through the legalization of prostitution and the advancement of VR or android technology.

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  142. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Padawan,
    If it went down that way between you and your ex, you have my sympathies.There are so many ways to get your head played with.

    Tarnished,
    It just occurred to me that a lot of the thirst in men is based on expectation or anticipation.

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  143. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,
    Can you elaborate?

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  144. Yoda says:

    A place for updated songs this is.
    Partake I will.

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  145. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarnished,
    Boiling it down, if men had no expectation of sex, they would not be frustrated. A lot of this is due to media. Boy meets girl on TV. Ten minutes later…

    Yoda,
    Here is something for you from the Master of revised lyrics.

    Haqt tip to Farm Boy for finding this.

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  146. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Here is what Weird Al based Yoda on.

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  147. Padawan says:

    “If it went down that way between you and your ex, you have my sympathies”
    Someone I knew. Very close.

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  148. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Padawan,
    I’ve never married and I don’t know any men who have been through this. It does seem that there are no consequences in this plane of existance for this behavior.
    It kind of undermines faith. That might be why Moses set such harsh punishments for this.

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  149. Tarnished says:

    @Fuzzie

    Lol, I adore Weird Al. My favorite songs from him are “Word Crimes”, “Amish Paradise”, and “The Saga Begins”.

    The media is basically made of lies. Men and women do not really connect that fast (usually). The 1950s weren’t a golden time of gender harmony. Recent studies have shown that while women have become more promiscuous, they have also become less sexually satisfied as a whole. They are having more partners, but are typically with men who only care about getting their own jollies…pumping and dumping, in other words. Most women aren’t as easy to satisfy as I am, and even I don’t know if I’m this sensitive naturally or just because I have a single partner who I love/trust/am constantly hot for. Interestingly, similar studies have shown that men in the 20-35 age bracket are *also* dissatisfied with their sex lives…because they feel unappreciated, are expected to do all the work, and have female partners who don’t act like they particularly enjoy the male body as it is.

    It’s like the current generation of 18-35 year olds aren’t being true to themselves sexually…they’re acting like stereotypes instead of real people. It’s very strange, and not in a good way.

    Older history as presented by the media is even worse. Men and women alike in the US/Europe have just about always been able to work, own property, get patents, usually had the same type of educational opportunities…The more I look into actual history, the more I find that what they teach in school (both public and private, I have experience in each) in regards to gender roles is not the whole truth. There have always been those men and women who buck the system and do what isn’t expected of them…anyone from Tesla to Joan of Arc. It’s not that women have been held back, it’s that fewer have been willing to risk the social castration that comes from rising above what society dictates.

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  150. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah, well we’ve never had those sorts of issues in the rugged Coromandel ranges.
    A Moehau Man woman knows full well, the day she reads The Female Eunoch without a grin on her face is the day she won’t be scrumptious as a pikelet any more.

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  151. Tarnished says:

    @Moehau Man

    The Female Eunoch?

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  152. Tarnished says:

    @Fuzzie

    It’s been a while since I was a Christian…What were the rules Moses set? Or do you just mean the thing about adultery in the 10 commandments? In my faith, open relationships aren’t seen as a bad thing, so long as everyone involved is cool with it. Sex with someone you’re not handfasted with isn’t a sin anymore than being homosexual or admitting you find people besides your partner attractive. Then again, we have great respect for both male and female sexuality…just read about our Beltane festivals!

    I saw before you were talking to Spawny about standing up to feminists. This post might interest you: http://tarnishedsophia.wordpress.com/2014/09/09/egalitarian-does-not-mean-misogynist/

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  153. Tarnished says:

    Padawan, I’ve known guys who’ve dealt with this. My FwB is one of them (though he wasn’t married when she was doing other men behind his back). The sad thing is, he’s actually always been okay with his lovers having partners besides him…heck, he still tries to get me to sample different men/women…but it has to be discussed. To have a partner who’s alright with sharing yet still being sneaky and secretive is just wrong.

    I can’t imagine how it is for people who are cuckolded…especially a man who’s wife probably doesn’t even give him a handjob, yet will spread for other males.

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  154. Padawan says:

    Tarn

    It is the cruelest thing to part with,
    Sharper, more stinging than mace,
    Especially if he had no idea
    Until the laughter hit him in the face.

    Bulls have fun though. Good fun 😉 :

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  155. Moehau Man says:

    @Tarnished,
    “The Female Eunich”?
    Isn’t that what they called that diatribe by Gerry Bought It Down Under or some such? Never read it meself.

    Anyway, I have a possible solution up me sleeve for you foreign types. Moehau Man women do enjoy Mrs Moehau Man (my mum)’s pikelets and pavlova cake. Maybe you foreign sheilas need to stuck into those sorts of scrummies, eh? Maybe that’s the new recommended diet for you to cure all your problems right there!
    So how about it, eh?

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  156. Tarnished says:

    Lol, I have no idea. But I’ll try anything so long as it has no meat in it. 🙂

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  157. Spawny Get says:

    I think you’d be okay with some of the Cornish Pasties round here, Tarn.

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  158. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarnished,
    I think that the primary concern with adultyry was the product of it, unwanted, fatherless children if discovered. If not discovered, then the fraud would remain ongoing. This was a patriarchal culure, authority resided with the father. Inheiritance was patrilineal, property went from father to son.
    There are estimates being thrown aroung currently of between ten and thiry three percent of children born are not legitimate.

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  159. Cill says:

    Fuzzy,

    I always thought Lola was man posing as woman? It amuses me that my mum likes to hum the Lola tune in her kitchen. In her time she has managed large tracts of agro-forestry and teams of hard, hard Kiwi men. They treat her as a lady because she is one, would walk through fire if she asked them to.

    Yet her kitchen is her favourite place. There’s a magnet on her fridge:
    God bless my little kitchen
    I love its every nook
    And bless me as I do my work
    Wash pots and pans and cook

    Aw shucks…

    Spawny cornish pasties, but only if made in Cornwall and eaten at (or close ) place of purchase. They’re okay elsewhere, but not as good. My Norman ancestors are from those parts (the south .east).

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  160. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Padawan,
    Knights of orders other than Jedi are. Here is a movie of one. There is the old romantic theme. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back. Good stuff. Invite Yoda and Mrs. Yoda over to watch with you. They will bring soup and sandwiches.

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  161. Moehau Man says:

    @Tarnished
    “But I’ll try anything so long as it has no meat in it”

    No meat, some cream though. If you google on New Zealand Pavlova you’ll see what they look like. Moehau Man sheilas eat an entire cake in a couple of gulps leaving bits of cream and meringue on their hairy lips. A bit like Fuzzy after he’s eaten one. We export them to bears, who love ’em.

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  162. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, south east Cornwall? (adjacent to Plymouth)

    Or a typo? (Cornwall is the far south west of the UK)

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  163. Moehau Man says:

    Fuzzy

    The Knights Templar video :

    I’m glad you made sure it has the subtitiles for Mrs. Moehau Man (me dear old deafish mum). She asked me to give you a big hug and kiss on her behalf. So lean a bit closer to the screen and pucker up, mate…

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  164. Cill says:

    Typo Spawny, I meant the south west. Actually they were centred in West Sussex but had holdings further west (and north).

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  165. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Last night, I made mention of Anita Sarkeesian cancelling a speech. Here is ThunderfOOt chiming in. If you didn’t know, ThunderfOOt doesn’t like Anita very much.

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  166. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Moehau Man,
    One of the things that they kept historically correct, in producing this movie, is the use of multiple languages. It would have gone down way in real life then. That’s why the subtitles are continuous.

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  167. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie,
    Ta. I’ve been watching some Justicar videos lately. They went through the same shit a with what came to be atheism+. Killed the atheism movement leaving what sounds to be a sad nest of sjws busy infighting themselves to oblivion.

    GamerGate is going the other way. Check out the Twitter tags.

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  168. Moehau Man says:

    Fuzzy, you don’t fancy a kiss then, mate? No worries.

    Anyway, this Anita Sarkesian…

    I mean, blow me down with a sprat-fart, but how many more wacked-out sheilas do you poor foreign blokes have to put up with over there? How many have you got?

    Let’s hope that sorta stuff doesn’t spread to the wilds of the Coromandel. I don’t think it ever will. The Moahau Man sheilas know they have to remain scrumptious if they’re to keep having fun with the Kiwi blokes in the hills. We’re on a par with Tarnished’s wiccans, we don’t mind our women folk spreading it around a bit. As long as it stays clean and wholesome, mind. I had to pitch one joker in the pot for getting a bit too uppity. To my surprise, Kiwi-on-the-bone is quite nice if you boil it for a couple of days to get rid of the toughness…

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  169. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny,
    I’ll check out Justicar. I think that I have exhausted Sandman and Life After Women.
    Feminists should have left gamers alone. Shame won’t work. They know what it’s like to be socially ostracized.

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  170. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie,
    Justicar can be a bit acerbic, but he has some fun in other videos, while making great points. I like the more recent stuff more.

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  171. Spawny Get says:

    And you’re right. Check out Twitter, they’re having fun. They have a great sense of community.

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  172. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Moehau Man,
    We seem to have quite a few of them. Get rid of one and another pops up. I like your solution, cook them and eat them. I don’t think that would be too popular with police here.
    Give your Mum a nose rub for me.

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  173. Spawny Get says:

    #BasedBenz. Mercedes Benz just pulled its advertising from one of the GamerGate implicated companies.

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  174. Cill says:

    Good video 10:49 pm Fuzzy. Either the fems have to maintain their victimhood to avoid the multimillion dollar feminist industry being brought to its financial knees, or they are pathologically anti-male. They are pathological liars, either way.

    She said something along the lines, once something has bounced around the net often enough it becomes the truth regardless of the facts. No-one would know that process better than a feminist does.

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  175. Moehau Man says:

    Fuzzy 11:52
    Cook and Eat…

    “Cook but don’t eat” is the thought that springs to mind there, Fuzzy. Risk of botulism much.

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  176. Moehau Man says:

    “Via Twitter (hint, hint)”. Well yeah, if a hongi can be delivered through it, maybe Old Moe here better check out Twitter for the first time in his life. If what you said is factual there, Spawny, old Moe will be happy as Larry.

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  177. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Moehau Man, that was cruel. I needed a good laugh

    Cill,
    The irrational hatred of men may doom feminism but, in Anita’s case, this business of capitalizing on insubstantial threats is going to catch up with her far more quickly.

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  178. Spawny Get says:

    Oh it’s true Cill.

    I kept my twatting profile private, so that third parties can’t follow without permission (I think).

    As with the blog, I want friendly, open chat between friends, don’t care about numbers.

    Keep the profiles private and let’s link up via this blog…?

    You can gave separate profiles for different gangs/ interests, so it’s all cool

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  179. Tarnished says:

    @Spawny

    Don’t think I’ve ever had Cornish pastries…I’ve had pet Cornish hens, though. So tiny and cuddly!

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  180. Tarnished says:

    Fatherless as in products of a married woman and her lover, or you mean the numerous bastard children from a married man and his lovers? I can see both being an issue in days when resources were more scarce and lineage meant something…

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  181. Tarnished says:

    “Thunderfoot doesn’t like Anita very much.”

    Lol, understatement of the year, dearheart. It’d be more likely to see the Pope and Richard Dawkins smooching.

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  182. Yoda says:

    in Anita’s case, this business of capitalizing on insubstantial threats is going to catch up with her far more quickly

    Will it?

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  183. Tarnished says:

    @Spawny

    I have actually been meaning to ask you what your thoughts are on atheism “plus”. Imagine it’s close to how I feel about Fluffy Bunny Wiccans…

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  184. Spawny Get says:

    Cornish Pasty! Not pastry.

    “So tiny and cuddly!” and tasty too?

    (Don’t hate me Tarn, just pity me)

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  185. Moehau Man says:

    Well, yeah, Twitter would be okay by me if they’d just have the good grace to send me an email for confirmation. Old Moe here has re-checked the email I gave them.

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  186. Farm Boy says:

    Anita sure does try to look good, with lipstick, makeup, etc.

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  187. Spawny Get says:

    My atheism begins and ends (if left unprodded) at not believing in any god(s). Atheism+ is a tremendously rancid idea. Their SJW style code of conduct for atheism+ prohibits insulting anybody’s religion. Thunderf00t video I think.

    Check out Mykeru on YouTube for some incisive commentary on the +ers

    Goodnight y’all

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  188. Yoda says:

    Pasties good they are.
    Mrs Yoda good ones she makes.

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  189. Tarnished says:

    @Fuzzie

    If you’re looking for other MGTOWs to listen to, I rather enjoy Bachelor Not Looking. A 19 year old called Adam Man also has some pretty good musings, though I tend to think he’s a bit wet behind the ears in regards to the real world yet. Then there’s Vention1Mgtow, he has decent stuff but can get on a bit of a longwinded streak.

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  190. Tarnished says:

    Lol, I though it was a typo! Pastry = a yummy bread treat filled with cream or jelly.
    Pasty = something exotic dancers/cosplayers wear over their nipples.

    *sigh* I’m sure that the hens would’ve been quite tasty if I slaughtered and cooked them. But I just liked how they’d hop up on my lap like tiny feathered cats. 😀

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  191. Tarnished says:

    Sleep sweet, Spawny.

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  192. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarnished,
    Cornish hens. Cuddly? I never looked at it that way. It could be this fixation on the ursine that is preventing that from happening.

    There had to be some kind of social co0nvention that allowed for the support of openly fatherless children in the time of Moses. Perhaps, it came under widows and orphans.
    Women are usually taken aback by the vehemence of men in regards to paternity fraud. It’s a big investment that should not be based on falsehood.

    Thanks for the tips about other MGTOWers. Barbarossa and Stardusk are long winded.

    I am taking my own advice and watching Arn the Kight Templar.

    Yoda, I hope that you and Mrs. are over at Padawan’s doing the same and feeding him food to grow big.

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  193. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarnished,
    When you mentioned “fluffy bunny Wiccans”, my imagination went into high gear. At first, I thoughta about linking the Monty Python and the Holy Grail scene with the homocidal rabbit but, that maight be a little much. However, the concept of something other than bears being cuddly is opening new vistas for me.
    One question, how do they get their long floppy ears under those conical hats?

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  194. Cill says:

    “twatting profile”
    Did you absolutely *have* to say that, Spawny? What with you, and now tarn with her “Cornish pastries”, I’m going to die laughing on this site one of these days.

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  195. Tarnished says:

    Fuzzie,

    I’m an animal lover at heart, always have been. Everyone from cats and dogs, to rats and lobsters. I even lived/worked at a wildlife rehab for 4 years, so I knew a number of foxes, raccoons, opossums, owls, falcons, deer, squirrels, hawks, groundhogs…You name it. It’s part of the reason I’ve been a strict vegetarian for 17 years…I can’t disconnect enough to find pleasure in eating meat when I’ve seen the personalities non-humans have first hand (including fish, birds, seafood, etc). The thought of consuming someone else makes me ill…but I don’t condemn or begrudge others their omnivorous diets. To each their own.

    Re: fatherless children
    I believe so. After all, wasn’t that the real reason that guy was smited for masturbation? I recall it was not the act of self pleasure that got him in trouble, but that he refused to sleep with his dead brother’s wife (thus keeping her and the children in the family).

    I agree that paternity fraud is a huge issue, especially as there have been cases of men who use DNA testing to prove kids aren’t theirs, but are forced to pay anyway…Even after a divorce!

    A good number of MGTOW/MRM youtubers are a bit overly talkative. I think they’d have a slightly bigger audience if they broke up the episodes some. The message is great…but the length can be prohibitive to certain listeners. How is Arn? I’ve not heard of him yet.

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  196. Cill says:

    I’ve come across a few Cornish Patsies in my time. Haven’t eaten any though, I hope. I leave that sort of thing to the guys with their feet on the ground over there in the UK. You know, the ones with the film star good looks…

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  197. Tarnished says:

    Lol. Fluffy Bunny Wiccans are what more serious practitioners call those who try to make our religion into something New Agey (Ouija boards, crystal therapy, tarot cards, etc) and constantly describe Nature as being absurdly peaceful and benign. Nature is not all bunnies, lambs, and rainbows…the destruction of a tsunami or volcano is just as natural as a tranquil forest or gently lapping waves. Nature has predators and prey, life and death, the care of young and killing of competitors. I may be lucky enough to be able to be a herbivore, but even I understand and accept that carnivores have a necessary place in the overall cycle of life.

    Fluffy Bunny Wiccans refuse to acknowledge the negatives that make the positives so worthwhile.

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  198. Tarnished says:

    @Cill

    Well hey, if you’ve gotta go…Always look on the bright side of life. 😉

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  199. Padawan says:

    “wasn’t that the real reason that guy was smited for masturbation?”

    Woe until they who devise iniquity
    And work evil on their beds!
    And they do it in the morning
    For it is in the power of their hand

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  200. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Tarn,
    i don’t know how your taste in films run but, I can give Arn an unqualified thumbs up.
    I think the requirement to pick up for a deceased brother was called Levirate marriage. The purpose was to maintain the deceased bloodline and provied a home for his widow. A glace at Wikipedia told me that this not limited to Jews but, seems to strengthen clans.

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  201. Cill says:

    “Fluffy Bunny Wiccans”

    We’ve got a group who chant “omni omni omni” in front of an old car battery. They do it to attract Small Greys. They’ve been shown on TV several times. You’d think that next day they’d die of shame, but no, back they come for more. They re-double their efforts each time. The sadly uproariously hilarious thing is, they’re serious.

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  202. Tarnished says:

    But that’s one of the best times to masturbate! Men and women get “morning wood”…why not take advantage of it?

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  203. Tarnished says:

    I’ll check Arn out then. I enjoy most MGTOWs…they have a unique way of speaking the truth that some “regular” MRAs don’t.

    You’re correct about the marriage thing. Thanks for looking up what it is called.

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  204. Tarnished says:

    @Cill

    Geez, but I hope you’re kidding.

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  205. Cill says:

    “Geez, but I hope you’re kidding.” I kidded you not.

    “Now, how do we stop men from being thirsty?”

    Testosterone is like fire in the blood! It astonished me to realize the extent to which my thirst was a state of mind. It’s like getting used to an almighty itch. Scratching it is going to make it worse. Learn to ignore it and it won’t be so bad. I do have physical relationships in the non-feminist parts of the world, but if that avenue closed I would become a 100% MGHOW. From my position, it wouldn’t be hard to do.

    A contented MGHOW has his place as much as the angry ones do. Men observe my circumstances and check me out. Quite a few have gone MGTOW that way.

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  206. Tarnished says:

    Dear Gods, that’s just sad. Praying to a battery and waiting for aliens? Ugh…

    I often wonder if I have an excess of testosterone, or if my brain is more sensitive to it. The way that men describe their “thirst” sounds exactly like my own experiences, except towards males 75% of the time, females 25%. And you’re correct…having sex on a consistent basis leads to further “thirst”. Going without for a while leads to a better acceptance. (Obviously this is different for incels.)

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  207. Cill says:

    If I started desiring both sexes, I’d be a different person. I just can’t wrap my head around me as bisexual. Same re child abusers. To me they are a different species, something not human, or evil. I can’t put myself into their heads. Bisexuals human are prima face wholesome, I can see that, and I’ve loved a couple of them. But I can’t picture me as one.

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  208. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    This conversation is going afield. To be honest, I am still trying to wrap my head around the idea of fluffy bunny Wiccans being attractive. When you have only thought interms of bears, that is quite an adjustment.
    I wonder haw they feel about ears?
    It probably wouldn’t work. They’s want me to bow down to old car batteries….

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  209. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I think women view bisexuality differently than men. When I was paying a lot of attention to OkCupid, there was an admission by a female bisexual that she was giving up on women because they wouldn’t write back.
    I can’t help but laugh everytime I think of it.

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  210. Cill says:

    Fuzzy

    Don’t you start too. Two of ’em (Spawny and tarn) are enough. 😉 I did say I’ll laugh myself to death in here some day.

    “she was giving up on women because they wouldn’t write back.” Every time I start thinking into the ramifications of that, I end up laughing too much for the thoughts to go very far.

    Hahahaha!

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  211. Cill says:

    Bimmin’ ‘eck,

    I’ve got to the stage where she’s written to herself and is not writing back…
    If there’s a sudden deathly silence from my end you’ll know what’s happened…

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  212. Moehau Man says:

    Well, yeah,

    I think what that lass should do is write a letter to herself and swallow it. She’s sure to get it back that way. There’s no accounting for the ways some of them foreign sheilas get themselves into a bind these days.

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  213. Yoda says:

    Modern view of women by men this is.
    England Dan and John Ford Coley courtesy of.

    Hello, yeah, it’s been a while.
    Not much, how ’bout you?
    I’m not sure why I called,
    I guess I really just wanted to have sex with you.

    And I was thinking maybe later on,
    I would get on top for a while.
    It’s been such a long time,
    And I really want MiniMe to smile.

    I’m not talking ’bout moving in,
    And I don’t want to change your life.
    I’ve got some seed for sowing
    And I’d really love to f’ you tonight.

    We could start talking but I don’t give a fark
    Or coax out your inner beoch
    But let’s just cut to the chase
    You see, you really don’t matter much to me.

    I’m not talking ’bout moving in,
    And I don’t want to change your life.
    But there’s a warm wind blowing the stars around,
    And I’d really love to f’ you tonight.

    I won’t ask for any food,
    So we won’t have to takeout
    I won’t ask for pleasantness
    So go right ahead and pout.

    I’m not talking ’bout moving in,
    And I don’t want to change your life.
    But there’s a warm wind blowing the stars around,
    And I’d really love to f’ you tonight.

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  214. Spawny Get says:

    Cill,
    I’ve been a Cornish Patsy in my time. I’ve been suckered into buying a Cornish Pasty expecting it to contain meat. When in actuality it was pretty much all potato and swede – I.e. one that vegetabletarians like Tarn could eat (my initial ‘joke’)

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  215. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I wasn’t joking about the bi gal giving up on women. It’s true!
    laughter as a weapon.

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  216. Padawan says:

    I’m not talking ’bout moving in
    (She thinks I’m a chronic abider)
    When she’s up to her tits in champagne
    I’ll be up to me balls in cider.

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  217. Spawny Get says:

    Arn was originally a miniseries, or was it a series of movies? That was also released as a movie…iirc.

    I’ve seen it in a couple of forms, I think. Good solid character, liked both versions.

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  218. Yoda says:

    Good padawan you are.

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  219. Cill says:

    Spawny!!

    What in the name of all that’s sacred are you doing up at this unholy hour? At was 4:27 AM at time of your last post! Oh I get it, you’re up to watch the Bledisloe Cup match! Onya, mate. You all should watch it no matter where you are (if you can get it your TVs)

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  220. Padawan says:

    Learned well from Master Yoda
    Padawan did

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  221. Spawny Get says:

    Regarding the Bi. Check out ‘lesbian bed death’ (or is it ‘lesbian death bed’). It’s a hotly contested ‘truth’ that two women living together experience a death of sexual desire…sort of a double version of wives stopping having sex after marriage. Not hard to believe that it can happen, is it?

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  222. Yoda says:

    “she was giving up on women because they wouldn’t write back.”

    Called them to the carpet she should have

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  223. Cill says:

    Now I can’t stop laughing at Moe’s dry-ball at 18 October, 2014 at 4:27 am

    Stop, stop!

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  224. Spawny Get says:

    Nice one Yoda.

    No laugh for patsy (either)? Harrumph. Back to sleep.

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  225. Tarnished says:

    Cill,

    You probably can’t because you aren’t one. *shrug* It’s cool. Just means I can be turned on by a firm male ass same as a round female one. Makes it difficult to concentrate at times…

    Yup. I’m an “ass man”, lol.

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  226. Farm Boy says:

    If two lesbians living together have an argument, which one sleeps on the couch?

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  227. Cill says:

    Spawny
    Ah I see. ‘lesbian bed death’ is closely connected to “she was giving up on women because they wouldn’t write back.”

    That’s pretty sharpish for first thing in the morning, me old Empire. I’m impressed.

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  228. Tarnished says:

    @Fuzzie

    My first kiss was with a lesbian friend in 8th grade. I’ve also played around with breasts that weren’t mine, but that’s as far as I’ve gone with female folk. They just aren’t…I don’t know. Nice? Good at reciprocating? In every instance it just felt like I was expected to do all the “work”.
    Sorry, but you need to push *some* buttons to get on this ride… 😉

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  229. Tarnished says:

    Yoda, that was frickin amazing! 😀

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  230. Farm Boy says:

    Do lesbians have the equivalent to “man caves” ?

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  231. Tarnished says:

    @Yoda

    Ah, but does the carpet match the drapes? 😉

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  232. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Yoda,
    At least, the bi gal had the option to go after men who would write back. For those of you that haven’t internet dated, response rates to initial posts are abysmal and thereby, discouraging.

    Spawny Get,
    More malevolent humor in lesbian bed death. There may be something to it. Before Jf12 dropped out as a commenter, he did notice that incidence of throat cancer from contact with HPV infected partners was far lower among lesbians than heterosexual males. The cance is acquired through oral sex.

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  233. Tarnished says:

    @Spawny

    Are you trying to say that 2 people of a sex that generally is known for their lower libido have less sexy funtimes? MISOGYNY!

    *snicker*

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  234. Tarnished says:

    @Farm Boy
    No. They have Love Grottos.

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  235. Cill says:

    “round female one” y-e-e-e-s okay.

    Firm male ass??

    Reminds me of Wilbur Smith who thought an alluring female was one who had “boyish buttocks”. He lost me right there.

    It’s the “tingles for a man” that I don’t get no way.

    Glad you do though, tarn 😉

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  236. Yoda says:

    Now I can’t stop laughing at Moe’s dry-ball

    Flushed with pride Moe should be

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  237. Tarnished says:

    @Fuzzie

    That’s the best thing about being bi!

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  238. Farm Boy says:

    That’s the best thing about being bi!

    To avoid HPV?

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  239. Cill says:

    “Flushed with pride Moe should be”
    He doesn’t get himself into the sorta bind that they do, either.

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  240. Padawan says:

    If Padawan had a pair of boobs, molest them he would.

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  241. Padawan says:

    If Padawan had a pair of boobs,
    He’d molest them every day,
    ‘lesbian bed death’? No, no way!
    It’d be brazen nipple play

    But in giving a teak, a tweak he’d get
    And give himself an earful:
    “There’s no sense in making yourself upset!
    Careful, darling, careful!”

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  242. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    OkCupid did make the observation that people who did identify themselves as bisexual were overwhelmingly likely to communicate with only one sex.

    What I noticed was that bi gals were more likely to write back.
    Did I mention that return mail for males was a bit of a problem?

    Bill Maher had to ask Camille Paglia, “Doesn’t your neck get sore when you have to check out twice as many people?”
    Camille Paglia simply smiled.

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  243. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, well, Fuzzy, you’re in danger of becoming a seriously funny young fella, if you ask me. Good as.

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  244. Tarnished says:

    Lol, my mistake for not clarifying. No…the best thing about being bi is that you can *ahem* appreciate the female forms you see everyday, and then go have actual sex with a sane male partner.

    HPV shots are supposed to be given to young girls around age 15-16. If not by their gynecologist, then by their regular doctor. Young men in the US didn’t used to get them at all since HPV was supposedly just the cause of cervical cancer, but with the amount of women who have apparently not gotten the vaccine and are now giving their partners throat/mouth cancer…Doctors are recommending that boys get the shots at the same age.

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  245. Tarnished says:

    Padawan,

    Boobs, and their accompanying nipples, are awesome. I very much recommend everyone getting a pair.

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  246. Tarnished says:

    Moehau Man,

    That must be why he fits in so well here!

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  247. Tarnished says:

    Well, it’s 1:15 am here, and my Friday game of Shadowrun is over. Time for a bit of shut eye before I turn into some kind of gourd… Sleep sweet, everyone.

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  248. Cill says:

    pleasant dreams tarn. I’m going to watch NPC final soon. Bledisloe Cup starts in about 3 hours.

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  249. Spawny Get says:

    Cill, ‘Bledisloe Cup’? I had to duckduckgo it, Let’s say I’m ‘AB positive’.

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  250. Moehau Man says:

    I reckon, Spawny. The AB s have their first good coaching squad in (my) living memory. It’s not so much that this is a great AB team as this is their best ever coaches. In ancient times the wrong people got to the top of rugby admin in this country and did NZ rugby no good at all (oddly similar to what feminists have done to humanity).The Aussies are in wound-dressing mode. The ABs might have been to the well of success once too often. We’ll see. But I agree with my (and your) opening sentence above.

    Can you get coverage, mate? On TV or online? If you soccer-heads want to get to grips with the oval-ball code, the Bled Cup is major, mate, seriously major.

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  251. Spawny Get says:

    Don’t think that it’s on TV here, I’d happily have it on in the background, but clearly I am no true fan. I admire the commitment of the players. When I watch it I end up twitching in muscular sympathy to some of the moves on t’telly! Teams that win in rugby tend to deserve it (IMO). Ones that lose might be unlucky, but the wins look to be earned.

    Just an opinion

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  252. Moehau Man says:

    ‘the wins look to be earned’. Pretty much.

    A lot of effort has gone into establishment of soccer (football) in NZ but the thing that rules it out for most kiwi blokes is the hollywoods and histrionics on the part of the players. A soccer player gets a tap on the shin and goes down writhing in death throes.That stuff goes right against our grain, it really does. No exaggeration, it goes to the point of being seriously offensive to our national psyche, like they are dicking us for taking the trouble to watch them.

    I’m not quite that intense about it meself, but I do prefer to watch rugby union, where real men pummel each other to every shade of shit in a genuine contest. Sweet as.

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  253. Spawny Get says:

    I remember seeing a clip of Aussie rules decades ago. One guy smacks another who goes flying…ref gets involved…all normal yeah? violence gets picked up…yeah

    …ye…no! Oh no, indeedy

    the commentators were pissed! “there was no fist, it was just a slap, what the hell is the ref doing?”

    Not exactly soccer soccer, is it?

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  254. Moehau Man says:

    The ABs are about to do the haka. I greatly prefer the original Te Rauparaha haka. Ka mate, ka mate! ka ora! ka ora! (I die, I die, I live, live) is my preference, not the alternative that Umanga & co came up with. The dead come up from the land into the haka men, into their feet and legs all the way up to their fingers thrust in the air. Aha ha!

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  255. Spawny Get says:

    uh…yeah…story, bro

    Good luck

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  256. Moehau Man says:

    First try (touch down) to the wallabies (Aussies). Try converted. 7 – 0 to Wallabies

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  257. Moehau Man says:

    Spawny, mate, Aussie Rules is aerial ping pong, not to be confused with good old game of rugger! AR is a gaelic football thing.

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  258. Moehau Man says:

    Half time Au 15 NZ 12

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  259. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Here’s something that all sports fans will appreciate.

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  260. Spawny Get says:

    So Moe, what does the score board show?

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  261. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie et al,
    ‘nother YouTuber worth a peruse

    Devlan TheComic

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  262. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    The one at the top and in the middle made me think of Ebul Liz. I think it was the red etes.I have seen this guy’s stuff. Following Tarn’s reccommendation of Bachelor Not Looking. Checked out Justicar and there is a lot there.

    On a similar note, I saw a video from Roosh yesterday, “Meet Your New Youtube Censors”. I won’t link because it’ll bring up the whole playlist. Any way, these censors have a lot of subscribers. I think Roosh said that Laci Green had over a million while he has 7700.
    There does seem to be an advantage to being politically correct.

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  263. Spawny Get says:

    Echoes what Moe said the other day, or was it Cill?

    MGTOW: The MGTOW Philosophy is spreading faster than you think

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  264. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve always liked RooshV, but am not really interested in his lifestyle. ROK is cool, some great articles. It’s interesting to see him drifting toward/expanding toward MRA issues.

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  265. Moehau Man says:

    Hmmm, Norton just got rid of SONAR.Heuristic on me computer. “Very few users, Very new, Risk High”. “Downloaded from http://s3amazonaws.com“. “gpup.exe Removed”. Wonder what the deuce that was all about…

    Yeah, Wello, the ABs won in the end. Old Moe here is happy as Larry. Can’t remember the score. Got fairly pissed with a cupla hairy cuzzies.

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  266. Spawny Get says:

    “Old Moe here is happy as Larry. Can’t remember the score. Got fairly pissed with a cupla hairy cuzzies.”

    Well, I know I’m shocked…

    Don;t know about the other thing…yet.

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  267. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, well ABs 29 Wallabies 28 in a cliffhanger. And what a game it was. In the rugged Coromandel life is just a box of fluffy ducks. Sweet as. Good as, gold don’t come close.

    Now old Moe here can’t wait for the big game in Chicago, the one the All Blacks agreed to so the Wallabies could make a bit of money. Typical of good old Kiwi blokes, eh.

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  268. Spawny Get says:

    Yeah 29v28 sounds like a decent game that came to a cliffhanger outcome.

    Cheers mate 😉 cracking a tinny right now

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  269. Moehau Man says:

    Well I knocked the top off a few too many stubbies last night to be joining you there, mate.
    Have one for me though, wouldya?

    Yeah, I’m just doing a bit of the old Moe research on the game right now, to remind meself what happened last night. ‘Twas a great game, is all I remember…

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  270. Moehau Man says:

    The game in Chicago will be live on NBC, bro:
    http://www.allblacks.com/News/25026/all-blacks-and-usa-rugby-confirm-chicago-test

    Uh, yeah, I forgot, you’ve hived off to have yourself a tinny…

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  271. Cill says:

    Re: 18 October, 2014 at 5:56 pm (above)

    MGTOW is growing. I know mine is just one man’s experience of a huge human population, but I have lived and worked on every continent on this planet (yes, including Antarctica). I’ve seen so many signs of MGTOW that weren’t there before, I can’t ignore them. The conclusion is unavoidable: MGTOW is growing rapidly in most places on Earth.

    We’ve all got some knowledge of the situation in the western world, but there’s also the East: China, Japan, The Philippines, Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia, Australasia…

    We tend to make the mistake of thinking the MGTOW of which we see evidence on the web is the *only* MGTOW. But it isn’t. Web = world is invalid. Most of the MGTOW I’m talking about won’t have heard of MGTOW and wouldn’t have a clue what it means. We’re all a little bit geocentric, here.

    MGTOW is growing, people. If you don’t believe me, go out and have a good look. Extreme hypergamy is the reason, IMHO. Will things get better as a result? Uh, pity it’s too early here to join Spawny in a tinny…

    Something’s gonna change, is all I can say, and it could be one of the biggest things ever to impact the human animal.

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  272. Spawny Get says:

    Know the usual stuff about Japan, somewhat less about China, but nothing about the other countries about them. Got any pointers? Or a quick post with some pointers?

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  273. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    I don’t know if there are more MGTOWs or guys giving up. What I do believe is happening is that men are talking and there is less inclination to play the role of chump. In the US, we are barely above half of adults being married at fifty point three percent.
    Something has to give and I hope that it’s women making a more credible argument and welcoming enviornment to teaming up.
    It has turned over that much. Men will have to be sold. That they will siply buy in without question is past.

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  274. Farm Boy says:

    I don’t know if there are more MGTOWs or guys giving up

    in a sense it does not matter. But in another sense it does. I was effectively MGTOW long before I understood the Red Pill. I am more at peace now that I understand what is going on. Spread the word.

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  275. Farm Boy says:

    I am presently at McDonalds. Pretty much all of the women here are fat. The customers, the women behind the counter, all of them. Even the young women. When I was that age, almost no women were fat. Perhaps women have gained enough power to have men accept “fat”.

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  276. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    You didn’t mention the men. I’ll bet the men are less affected by it and are about as lean as would be considered normal. That’s a disparity.
    What the heck got into the women? It’s like they own the ball and if you want to play, it’s by their standards.
    Arrogance.

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  277. Farm Boy says:

    I’ll bet the men are less affected by it and are about as lean as would be considered normal

    There are some bigger guys, but they are a bit older.

    It’s like they own the ball

    They do my bear friend. They do.

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  278. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    They have been playing tricks on us for a long time. Let’s play one on them.
    Steal the ball.

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  279. Farm Boy says:

    They have been playing tricks on us for a long time. Let’s play one on them.

    Fuzzie Bear,

    How about we get together, I put on my bear suit and we go paint the town.

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  280. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    Let’s play some tricks! 🙂 🙂

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  281. Cill says:

    Don’t go downtown as bears in Siberia unless you want to get shot.

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  282. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    This may be a little tame.

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  283. Cill says:

    Spawny,

    “Got any pointers? Or a quick post with some pointers?”

    I’ve really only got my own observations, which does tend to bring it into the “law of small numbers” category.

    However, I’ve lived and worked in the places I mentioned for months at a time. I’d get to know the people at work and at play, join in the things they do, stay with them, get the pillow talk.

    When you know a country well, on a re-visit you are quick to notice changes. There are suddenly more marriageable men making the decision to live alone as an end in its own right. MGTOW are suddenly less oddball in the eyes of society. The drive to find a wife and have children is weakening.

    Here’s another bloke speaking from personal observation:
    http://umslopogaas.wordpress.com/2012/03/12/no-money-no-honey-cambodian-men-going-their-own-way/

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  284. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    i did take a read. It seems that, in a lot of the world, the root cause is that guys can’t make enough to support a family. They’re opting out of a sense of responsibility. No blame for these circumstances can be attached to women.
    The situation is fundamentally different here. The end result is similar, in that, the marriage market collapses.

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  285. Cill says:

    Fuzzy said “the root cause is that guys can’t make enough to support a family.”

    Fuzzy if that’s all it had been I wouldn’t have made the observation. There are suddenly more *marriageable* men (who could support a family) making the decision to be alone as an end in its own right. This trend occurs despite the percentage of very poor people dropping by more than half since 1990 (http://annualletter.gatesfoundation.org/#section=myth-one)

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  286. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Cill,
    Nore head scratching for the bear.

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  287. Spawny Get says:

    Cill,
    I used to read ‘umslopogaas’ from time to time! I’d forgotten all about it. Lot of familiar names in the comments. Haven’t found any of mine, though there will be some in there

    http://umslopogaas.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/achtung-seien-sie-ein-mann-man-up-epidemic-reaches-germany/

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  288. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzy said “the root cause is that guys can’t make enough to support a family.”

    well, that and

    Men don’t think the family’n’kidz schtick is worth working their arse off for. Especially when family court and divorce rates mean that it can all be taken from them on the whim of the woman. And men these days are more aware than ever, even subconsciously (as Cill says), aware of what women are like.

    Now NAWALT but if someone offers you a tray of grenades and says, “Don’t worry about it, they’re not all live. Go ahead and pick one, pull the pin and stick it in your pocket”?

    To be honest Not All Women need to be Like That. It seems increasing men are coming to the conclusion that EWALT. (Enough Women…)

    Feminists gave them all the tools, but women themselves are the ones choosing to use them because feelz’n’tinglez > morals, vows and honour outside the herd.

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  289. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    I have had some time to think about it and money is a factor all over. In Japan, the possibility of being a “salaryman” is out, hence the herbivores. The Cambodian example in the link confirms this. In both cases, the quality of women is not a factor, it’s that supporting a family is not feasible.
    I have seen some stuff that takes this a little far. Studies in the US pointing to women wanting a family income three times the local mean. That’s out of line.
    Now that it’s simple enough for a woman to support herself as a single, they’ll only consider marriage for immediate and overwhelming benefit? We may have stumbled over the leading cuase of unrestrained hypergamy.

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  290. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get, I like the penguins!

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  291. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, well, sorry to change the subject, you blokes, but I’ve just given meself a bit of a nasty turn. I caught a glimpse of the Labour sheila under the “UKIP running ran Labour very close in Heywood by-election!” link on the front page to this site.

    That sheila’s hapless mug is what we Moehau Mans call a Cold Shower Physog, like the time I jumped into the freezing water of Lake Taupo on a snowy day and the eye of the old f*ckstick closed with a smack that stunned half the trout in the lake. Things can die, with a face like that.

    Bloody Nora, it’s a nightmare. Not even the thought of trout baked wrapped in bacon and stuffed with chalot out of 5 years’ storage in an old bourbon barrel can cure me mind of the sight of that sheila’s face. The blog owners need to be aware, they could kill Mrs Moehau Man (me dicky-hearted old mum) with a face like that.

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  292. Spawny Get says:

    Wouldn’t want anyone to miss out

    This is the face of victory? That’s the face of the newly elected labour mp…yikes

    How about the banner at the top of the page?

    I was thinking of putting ‘SG’ in a superman frame on the right hand penguin’s chest, but:
    1) not got da skilz (anyone? maybe a sort of pulling back of the feather ‘suit’ to partially uncover the ‘SG’ icon inside?)
    2) maybe we should all take turn as the right penguin?

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  293. Spawny Get says:

    Hey Fuzzie, I saw the picture and thought…yeah, gotta do it. I fiddled with it, have you seen the version with text (the current one)?

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  294. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah, well, I was too self-conscious to admit it earlier, but I’ll say it now:
    When I saw that Labour sheila’s face on the front page, me loins were loosed so that me knees smote against one another and I fouled Mrs Moehau Man (me mum)’s deerskin mat. Sorry to lower the tone, but it has to be said in case some other unfortunate visitor here has the same experience when clicking around in this site.

    Whaff, old Moe is still in recovery mode here…

    Anyway, Fuzzy, “they’ll only consider marriage for immediate and overwhelming benefit?” is pretty much spot-on, if you ask me. They expect too much out of a bloke, as a result. The white knights, as you foreign jokers call them, encourage them by bashing the good dinkum blokes, making the sheilas keep their expectations high to stay out of reach of the rabble.

    We Moehau Mans don’t call them White Knights, we call them False Alpha, like the false Killer Whale.

    That sort of rubbish doesn’t impress the Moehau Man womenfolk much. That’s why they smell like scrummy pikelets and have more joy than the Kiwi sheilas and foreign molls.

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  295. Spawny Get says:

    @Fuzzie,
    not sure it’d just money in Japan. The Princess Pookie Plan seems to be:
    ‘education’ in fluffy degree
    ‘great career’ for a few years
    burn out in early thirties
    look for hubbie (one equal to herself in her deluded mind – Prince 666)
    pop out one kid
    house wife
    work hubbie to death with occasional sex (if he’s lucky) and give him pocket money back from his wages.

    There’s a phenomenon of wifey divorcing hubbie once he retires and tries to spend any time at home – this is not the deal she signed up for. To ensure more favourable divorce terms she might try paying a prossie/undercover detective woman to pick him up in a bar and get photos of a compromising nature.

    Not sure it’s so different from the western princess plan, I think that it’s just even less hidden as the plan.

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  296. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah…

    Well…

    Something that strikes me as odd is that penguins lack nipples. I can’t imagine a Moehau Man woman without nipples. What does a penguin bloke hang onto on a stormy night?

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  297. Farm Boy says:

    In both cases, the quality of women is not a factor, it’s that supporting a family is not feasible.

    Actually I think it is more about “supporting a family in the manner that women demand”. I grew up in a large family with little income. My Mom really did not expect more of my Dad than to support the family in a slightly better than subsistence level. What women has such expectations these days? If a women is going to be at subsistence level today, she at least expects lots of tingles.

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  298. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I like talking penguins.
    It’s hard to judge what is going on in Japan. First, the culture is alien and second, they don’t talk all that much. It’s hard to get good information.
    Dumping hubby over retirement/empty nest does seem to be a worldwide phenomenon. Which begs the question, what the heck are men for? If we’re seen as lttle more than a meal ticket, selling the lifestyle to future hubbies is going to be hard.

    Moehau Man,
    I don’t know how ugly she is. I don’t want to find out. When things like this come up, I try to contemplate on beauty and not human or bear. Horses work.

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  299. Yoda says:

    penguins lack nipples.

    Mammals they are not.

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  300. Yoda says:

    This is the face of victory?

    Pleasant looking she is not.
    Hat help it would not.

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  301. Spawny Get says:

    Ah, you guys have been great. I got a treat for you from one of the predecessors of ROK’s trolling articles – Dick Masterson of http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/

    The Proof is in the Penguins Once upon a time there was a shitload of penguins that lived in Antarctica. One day every year all the penguins would get together and have sex with each other. Eggs would be born and everyone knows what happens next. The women assume that they are done, fuck off completely, go and eat to their hearts’ content while their mate starves, and don’t come back until they are so bloated on fish carcass they can barely walk. Needless to say, their demeanors have not improved. Sound familiar?

    I read something in a man-book of science and knowledge that said all the organisms on Earth have a great deal of similarity genetically speaking — some impressive percentage that I don’t remember. When it comes to the DNA, we’re all pretty much the same animal. Is it any surprise then that we can find examples of women and their awfulness up and down the food chain?

    I’m talking about March of the Penguins here, which is a good movie if you like to watch men suffering for goldbricking harlots and matriarchal moochers. That’s a trick question of course. You can watch a movie without seeing men suffer for goldbricking women just as easily as you can live it — which is not easily. The only way to escape women, their selfish henpecking, and the wake of its destruction; is probably to be in prison. Believe me, I’ve considered it.

    Penguins can probably teach us a lot of things about surviving in the cold and catching fish, but they can also teach us the much more important lesson of men being better than women. In the movie about the breeding habits of emperor penguins, the females are completely fucking useless. They only go like a month without food while the males go four; they are conveniently gone during the month-long portion of the mating season that involves wedging an egg the size of a softball in your ass and balancing on your goofy looking feet against two-million mile an hour winds; and they are constantly making noise. It’s very annoying after a while.

    The only thing the penguin women do right (and this is purely on accident) is square off with one another during the mating dance. I don’t know how much man has genetically in common with his penguin predecessors, but I don’t think you can have a penis and not enjoy a good cat fight.

    The women penguins also can’t protect their baby penguins for shit. When they come back from their feast, sliding on their distended, fish-packed, bellies, and the males limp toward the sea at one third the healthy penguin weight, some of the first shots we see are birds just swooping down casually and picking the babies off like bread crumbs. Frankly, it made me sick, and I don’t know how you can watch that scene and not think of every single child who’s ever been abducted in a playground with a yappy, irresponsible mother yapping away incessantly less than twenty feet away.

    That’s another thing. Women are responsible for most child abductions, and guess what we see in March of the Penguins. That’s right, when one of the new mothers, fat on fish jelly, accidentally drops her baby onto the freezing tundra, her first move is to snipe the baby of another. Real classy ladies. Real classy.

    See more at: http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/the-proof-is-in-the-penguins

    That is in his book http://www.amazon.com/Men-Are-Better-Than-Women/dp/1416953817/
    I bought a copy. Pro-tip leave it on the coffee table as a great conversation starter with women. If she can’t see the satire, best call her a cab.

    Here he is trolling Doctor Phil of it and his audience…they all love it…sort of.

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  302. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah, well, Yoda, that’s a fairly profound thought right there. I’ll discuss it with Mrs Moehau Man (me old mum) when she’s reading “A Good Keen Man” over a cuppa tonight.

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  303. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda, putting gallantry aside, she’s a three bagger.

    One for her, one for you in case hers slips and one for the dog, so that he’ll respect you in the morning.

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  304. Farm Boy says:

    More head scratching for the bear.

    Fuzzie Bear,
    How do you scratch your back? Do you use a tree? Or do you have some other method?

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  305. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    so, it’s not som uch what men cn ot can’t do, it’s whqat women expect men to do.
    There aren’t that may Princes out there looking for a girl to fit the glass slipper.

    Farm Boy, I like hearing about your Mom until, I realize they aren’t made that way anymore. *sad face*

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  306. Moehau Man says:

    There’s nothing to stick out when they’re cold…

    Maybe that’s it, then. Since it’s cold all the time in Antarctica, the nipples retreat into the feathers as fast as the eye of the old f*ckstick can close in a freezing lake. (I can’t get that image out of me mind… the Labour sheila’s face, I mean)

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  307. Spawny Get says:

    “I can’t get that image out of me mind… the Labour sheila’s face, I mean”

    Sorry about the image Moe. Best we just forget all about it…never mention it again

    oops, I did it again

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  308. Yoda says:

    and one for the dog, so that he’ll respect you in the morning.

    Respect of dog important it is.
    Women respect men not.
    So why bother not?

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  309. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, well, you have to admit there, Spawny, her face is of a bilious description, enough to bring tears to the eyes of her own mother.

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  310. Yoda says:

    Labor MP in labor she looks.

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  311. Padawan says:

    At the end of his prong
    The Moehau Man
    Sports an eye the size of a crack
    A crack so big
    It can knock out trout
    When it closes with a mighty smack

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  312. Padawan says:

    That woman’s face is a damn disgrace
    To anyone anti-femmin
    With her barren brows and straining face
    She’s trying to give birth to a lemon

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  313. Spawny Get says:

    Mixed news for Moe

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  314. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, well, I’m not so sure about that, young Padawan. There’s no escaping the obvious and terrible suffering in her demeanor.

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  315. Moehau Man says:

    Well, you have to admit that’s something of an improvement there, Spawny.

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  316. Padawan says:

    The Moe Woman’s face is even worse
    Its brows more barren than the first

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  317. Moehau Man says:

    Well, I don’t know, I get the impression you jokers are having a bit of a giggle at my expense.

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  318. Padawan says:

    Now if she had a brow like Moe’s
    She look like a shrub on a hose

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  319. Spawny Get says:

    “having a bit of a giggle at my expense”

    could we agree on ‘chortle’? sounds slightly more manly.

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  320. Spawny Get says:

    On a totally different subject, did you know that 50% of men suffering from erectile dysfunction don’t have the issue with women who are more attractive than their wife?

    what made that fact leap to mind, I do not know.

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  321. Padawan says:

    She is dough taken and rolled out flat
    And dusted with flour to dull the glowing
    Then scrunched up again, not too tight,
    So every single crack is left showing

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  322. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah, I’m starting to regret having raised the subject of the Cold Shower Physog. Time to get off the dunny, I reckon.

    Now, Spawny, why IS it that 50% of men suffering from erectile dysfunction don’t have the issue with women who are more attractive than their wife?

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  323. Padawan says:

    “Why IS it that 50% of men suffering from erectile dysfunction don’t have the issue with women who are more attractive than their wife?”

    They look at the mantelpiece
    When stoking the fire, maybe?

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  324. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah, the Labour woman’s man would shag any other woman in the world with a bone that a dog couldn’t chew.

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  325. Spawny Get says:

    Cheer you up…

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  326. Padawan says:

    {developing}
    He tightened the buttocks and grinned like a git
    Nor developed less steadily Roland a whit…

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  327. Moehau Man says:

    Well actually, Spawny, for a minute there I thought {developing} was a kind of emoticon for a bone that a dog couldn’t chew. Young Padawan had the same impression, apparently.

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  328. Moehau Man says:

    Tell me, you foreign blokes, and why do those foreign statues always have such small prongs? It’s a bit belittling, if you ask me. If I had a prong like that I’d shove a deer bone into to stop the Moehau Man sheilas laughing.

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  329. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, now, that prong he’s holding in his right hand is a bit more impressive. Got a pretty handy sort of tickler sticking out of it there. Even old Moe has to be impressed at that one. Good as.

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  330. Padawan says:

    Spawny in sympathy
    For his fellow foreign man
    Has covered up his limpathy
    As quickly as he can.

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  331. Moehau Man says:

    As a matter of fact, I can almost discern the eye of a f*ckstick on the skimpy little thing he’s now wearing.

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  332. Moehau Man says:

    Well it’s a bit of a pity it’s not life-size, or we could’ve chucked it into Lake Taupo and harvested a lot of stunned trout.

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  333. Padawan says:

    {developing} next emoticons for boner…
    {dog-chomp-not}
    {dogjaw-breaker}
    {chomp-(yelp!)}

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  334. Spawny Get says:

    {You create the image, I’ll upload and link it in. I’d prefer to keep the images teen friendly}

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  335. Moehau Man says:

    Well I don’t know what it is with you foreign blokes. You hide his right hand and thereby the only thing manly and impressive about him, and you’re left with a patsy posing like a girl.

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  336. Moehau Man says:

    {developing} already IS an emoticon, or at least it looks a bit like a dog bone to me. Perhaps you foreign blokes lack the imagination of the Moehau Man?

    BTW, in the rugged Coromandel, there is no such thing as a child-friendly image of a boner.

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  337. Spawny Get says:

    You might have a point there.

    If it helps…imagine that he’s holding a 24inch rubber cokc in his right hand, which is why I had to trim the picture.

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  338. Spawny Get says:

    I can only imagine that she was having so much fun that her head dropped off (it happens…all the time),

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  339. Padawan says:

    { 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 }

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  340. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, well, young Padawan, the attitude of the brackets does give the boner a certain practical look, a slight upwards curve for G-spot mishing. Sweet as.

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  341. Moehau Man says:

    Well me head must’ve been upside down when I thought that. Now it’s more like G-spotting during dogging, which is probably a bit more on-topic.

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  342. Moehau Man says:

    Yeah, I can’t help wondering what’s happened to the other commenters? I wouldn’t mind betting they’ll be sitting back in awe, lapping up the free sex education old Moe is dishing out for them here. Every Moehau Man knows from a young age, the way to keep the Moehau Man womenfolk in their place is all-out rogering. The kiwi and foreign jokers who visit these hills have lost the knack and the Moehau Man womenfolk try to help them out with practical demonstrations.

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  343. Spawny Get says:

    “Got a pretty handy sort of tickler sticking out of it there.”

    I see that you’d already guessed why the image was trimmed (at 19:36)

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  344. Spawny Get says:

    @Moe 20:52

    No other explanation makes as much sense…

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  345. Padawan says:

    “practical demonstrations” on kiwi and foreign blokes

    ♀ { o_O o_O o_O o_O o_O o_O o_O o_O o_O } ♂

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  346. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    About the fifty percent that have a miraculous recovery, it may not be that the principle of “wife goggles” is universal. Another blog had a second hand story of a man set up by his wife. He forgave but, the ‘wife goggles” were gond forever.

    I am doing a lot of thinking and, what seems to be the problem with all is that we can’t know what motivates women.
    It’s all so confusing.

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  347. Farm Boy says:

    Fuzzie Bear,

    Are you suggesting that women are making it up as they go?

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  348. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, your comment got hung up because you misspelled your name (fyi only)

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  349. FuzieWuzzie says:

    Farm Boy,
    Now, where did you think that James Tiberius Kirk got his inspiration?
    I might be a little less confused.

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  350. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    I hope this fixes it for future comments. Sorry.
    Is honey spelt “hunny”?

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  351. Spawny Get says:

    Is Fuzzie vs Fuzie the beginning of some multiple personality issue? Okay by me, but changes between them could get caught up while I’m away.

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  352. FuzzieWuzzie says:

    Spawny Get,
    Bears are just bad spellers.

    Getting back to bisiness, intellectually, it’s easy to understand the why and wherefore of MGTOW. There is one problem. Girls are cuddly.

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  353. Spawny Get says:

    No biggy Fuzzie. Just thought I’d let you know why two of your comments got hung up.

    Winnie the Pooh says Hunny I believe. But then he plays scatological games, like poo-sticks. Throwing floaters in the stream to have races…how unhygienic is that?

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  354. Padawan says:

    The finger-puppet face
    Continues unabated
    Each eye from the other eye
    Looks strangley dislocated

    On her head her eyes look trapped
    He’ll lop it off to free them
    It’s clear they know not what
    Is going on between them

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  355. Spawny Get says:

    The strangely dislocated might be due to the fact that I swapped the eyes over and turned the mouth upside down to try and give her a (ghastly) smile.

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  356. Moehau Man says:

    Yes, but… how can we be sure you’re not pulling the old tit there, Spawny?

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